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17313545 No.17313545 [Reply] [Original]

Vtubers can collab and interact with whoever they want.
Their viewers don't "own" them, no matter how much money they give them.
Stop getting psychotic over parasocial online "relationships" with entertainment personalities.

>> No.17313589

Correct. And I can choose to stop watching whoever I want. And I will continue to stop watching those who associate with vshojo.

>> No.17313642
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>Vtubers can collab and interact with whoever they want.
>Their viewers don't "own" them, no matter how much money they give them.
>Stop getting psychotic over parasocial online "relationships" with entertainment personalities.

>> No.17313668

>>17313589
Good for you. Now if you can convince unicorns to do the same, you would be bestowed a Medal of Honor.

>> No.17313671

>>17313589
Based.

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>>17313545
>Vtubers can collab and interact with whoever they want.
Their viewers don't "own" them, no matter how much money they give them.
Stop getting psychotic over parasocial online "relationships" with entertainment personalities.

>> No.17313725

>>17313545
Mori please, go back to Twitch and stop bitching about your superchats

>> No.17313757
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>>17313545
If they don't want to be restricted by company rules they're can always feel free to go indie.
>b-but I want holo money without actually supporting hololive
Tough.

It's all so transparent that you're trying to gaslight Mori into screwing herself over and you won't be there for her when it comes down to actually watching her streams.
Same retards who go on about how Hololive should be forced to collab with Holostars, just because they hate hololive, but would sooner choke a tailpipe than actually watch Holostars on their own.

>> No.17313778

>>17313718
Fuck the green text got messed up.

>> No.17313870
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17313870

>be vtuber
>want money
>get money
>get comfortable
>forget your money literally comes from simps
>piss off the simps
>less money
>"the simps are the ones in the wrong"

Perhaps. But so are you.

>> No.17313884

>>17313545
>Their viewers don't "own" them, no matter how much money they give them
They do actually they are nothing without those viewers.Also if all those viewers go full schizos they can make even top tier holos graduate

>> No.17313924

>>17313589
>And I will continue to stop watching those who associate with vshojo
basado

>> No.17313968

>>17313545
Yeah that's what you say and then you don't even watch her collab with mouse.
She sees more view from playing Jump King than listening to you. You are literally worse than Jump King.

>> No.17313981

>>17313870
didn't know rosebuds are unicorns

>> No.17314000

>>17313668
Mori couldn't get above 7k for this incredibly hyped and anticipated cross company collab so it looks like things are already progressing as planned. Just for comparison Noel has 8k for a Saturday morning Zelda stream

>> No.17314056

>>17314000
Hyped by the kind of people who care about sticking it to Hololive watchers, not people who actually watch her.

>> No.17314058

>>17314000
>gura streaming; Shadowverse
/thread.

>> No.17314084

>>17313757
it's funny because holoJP as a whole has collabed with more people outside of hololive than the other branches combined. Not to mention 5 JP's whole schtick is "wew sex" or "look I'm a menhera." So much for an "idol" company and having rules (which are essentially fan imposed).

>> No.17314112

>>17314058
>We want more collabs with vshojo!
>Switches over and watches Gura solo stream instead
Point proven. There's no audience for this shit. Twitter trannies talk big game but don't watch streams.

>> No.17314145

>>17313545
>I will join an industry that preys on lonely men
>I will get angry when my audience of lonely men don't want me publicly interacting with the opposite gender
>Why, yes, I'm a woman. How could you tell?

>> No.17314200

>>17313884
This is the exact same logic the chinks used over the whole Taiwan situation and trying to graduate Coco

>> No.17314269

>>17313668
Literally can't, since the unicorn Oshi are in the same agency of a defected product . Only way to make them stop is to remove that product or rebrand it to something somewhere eles. They fear that defected product will eventually infected their Oshi and even lower the quality of new products to come. So the only solution is to get rid of it, since it already show that the company have no capability to fix it.

Granted that product are not THAT "bad", it just not belong in the company.

>> No.17314274
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17314274

Go to sleep.

>> No.17314279

>>17314200
and they won

>> No.17314308

Some decent bait, I'll bite.
A 40 year old divorced single mother is grateful to work a job that gives her all the admiration, love, and cash she's ever wanted - and she's not at all bothered by following some simple rules regarding appearances that come with her line of work.
A 20 year old woman on the other hand may think she is owed all of the money and adoration for simply existing, and start complaining if people have any expectations of her.

>> No.17314333

>>17314084
>collabs from before most of the jps had even joined as examples
>w-why can't the most easily manipulated holoEN subvert the company by inviting people who literally shittalk everything they stand for repeatedly? a faggot that even kson seemed to regret inviting over his 3d comments?
>no we won't watch her streams if she does but it'd make holo fans seethe
No one's buying what you're selling you disingeneous cuntoid.

>> No.17314453

>>17314308
didn't ask thread reader

>> No.17314490
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You don't even watch Hololive.
Not even a single stream, collabing with one of your streamers, solely for the purposes of baiting.
No one cares what you think.
No one should ever care what you have to say.

>> No.17314507

>>17313589
fpbp

>>17314308
also a based take
notice that all the chuubas that want to "break the mold" are all the young ones

>> No.17314516

>>17314145
Don't you think that maybe moving from a industry that exploits lonely men is a good move in the long run? What kind of pathetic man would fight to maintain this type of industry in the first place? It's like a woman defending prostitution and sex trafficking. You stoop down your whole existence as a consumable product and try to defend that?

>> No.17314604

>>17314112
tbf it's a sponsor stream of some nonsense card game vs. Gura playing GTA-V. The collab is the only reason it's not an absolute slaughter.

>> No.17314625

>>17314516
It's funny how you pretend to have pride.

>> No.17314633

>>17314145
People have liked cute anime girls for centuries. They can do well enough even if the incels aren't there to creep on them.

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>>17314633
Well enough apparently isn't good enough for you turds considering how you're trying to ruin hololive despite there being a million alternatives that caters to your horrendous lack of taste.

>> No.17314743

>>17314516
>What kind of pathetic man would fight to maintain this type of industry in the first place?
Whenever I say porn should be banned and women should be disallowed from working jobs for a wage I get a bunch of cucks going "Noooo muh female empowerment"

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>>17314274

>> No.17314851

>>17313545
Based Koroneposter. The VTubers are their own persons, entitled paypig incels need to learn their place, they're just viewers and fans. When you donate to a VTuber, you're just doing that to support their content. You're not their boyfriend, and there is no cucking going on. Learn to think like normal people, you abnormal fucks.

>> No.17314853

>>17313545
And I can insult whores for their whore behavior on the internet

>> No.17314954

>>17314851
You and by extension every american are not obligated any donations. :^)

>> No.17315016

>>17314954
You are right, not unless they deliver a good service will I give anyone money.

>> No.17315254

>>17314200
it worked

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hell naw I sc €500 but she didn't say my name

>> No.17315889

>>17313545
>4chan
>stop getting psychotic over minor bullshit
Are you going to tell them to take thier meds next?

>> No.17316016

>>17313545
kill yourself cuckbeat

>> No.17316318
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>>17313545
lmao

>> No.17316521

>>17313545
>Their viewers don't "own" them, no matter how much money they give them.
To some extend they do, this is not fucking charity, they are supporting the girl and the content they like if said girls move away from what made them popular and gather support, paypigs have the right to complain.
I know you are cucked to the core, but how is this hard to understand?. Also whatever relationship my oshi has with her fans stopped being parasocial long time ago.

>> No.17316893

>>17313545
I 100% agree with you, but I think some of these people (english) forgot what fucking job they signed up for and who their audience is. They're virtual idols and the idol industry is a cancerous dumpster fire of artificial and clingy fans. How do you think Coco got dropped?

>> No.17316947

>>17316521
>this is not a fucking charity
But it is? No one is forcing you to donate or pay monthly to watch streams. Trying to convince yourself that you "own" them simply because you give them money is the same as a sad dude who thinks their hooker should be their girlfriend simply because they paid them for services.

>> No.17317008

>>17313545
Kiara & Pomu...

>> No.17317218

>>17316893
They (English) are virtual streamer, is (you) who forgot what job they signed up for faggot.

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>>17316893
I can't find the word idols anywhere. Do more reading rep and stop listening to the voice in your head you dumb fuck.

>> No.17317464

Any time I hear the following phrases
>they don't owe/you don't own
>they have the right
>they can
>grown adult/woman
My only response is that I literally do not care. If they do not please me, they are trash.

>> No.17317477

>>17317321
>hololive = idol company
this is where it falls apart

>> No.17317517

>>17317477
Only by people who don't know a thing about the idol industry and just rely on westashit memes about it.

>> No.17317649

>>17317218
>>17317372
A lot of Vtuber fans strike me like they would get along with voice actor fans and idol fans in Japan. Same level of "you need to be perfect and non human like having friends or a boyfriend. Be that pure representation I have in my mind of what you should be."
Why? Because they are the exact same group of people, except vtubing is literally a company giving (x) male or female idol a preset lore, personality &and guidelines on how to act and who to act with

>> No.17317706

>>17317372
holy fucking newfag when the fuck you started watching hololive?

>> No.17317749

>>17313545
another thread where /vt/ confuses "allowed" / "not allowed" for "good idea" / "bad idea"
They can collab with whoever they want but their are consequences socially for their choices. Nobody's suggesting locking them up in a zoo and only allowing approved visitors.

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17318138

They certainly can do what they want.
But so can I.

>> No.17318244

>>17317649
>you need to be perfect
No, just not a dumb bitch who hangs with people openly antagonistic to the entire thing and then go to town defending them while attacking your own fans making it clear you are not allowed to be a fan of her work, or even of hololive itself, if you are not a fan of this snide hololive anti.

Of course to americans this is an insane attack on their freedumbz to ask that you are not openly antagonistic to both the people paying you and the people paying for you.

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>>17313545
Most based take on this godforsaken board

>> No.17318308

Reminder that for all their talk none of the shitposters even watched her collab.

>> No.17318607

>>17313545
>Using a pic of someone who thinks idols shouldn't get boyfriends while sharing this opinion
I'd say hit the fucking bricks and go watch your shit collabs, but judging by their view count you don't regardless.

>> No.17318952

Ok, but that’s not the premise most vtubers are based on. Most have MVs, clips, personas and other bait for bringing on viewers who want a parasocial relationship, and they depend on their desperate cash. Is there anyone with a normal dating life that donates more than pocket change sparingly to vtubers? You know these people you claim to hate are the ones funding your favorite vtuber’s entire career. This is the entire ecosystem. Why even have skimpy anime girl avatars to begin with then?? Why not just cartoon avatars or some other shit? All these anime girls are fulfilling the male fantasy, that is why they are popular and now you want to make them into platonic friends that just coincidentally happen to have huge boobs and 10/10 uwu kawaii faces. These girls would be nothing without baiting for parasocial relationships. Stop being delusional

>> No.17318980

>>17313545
We made Hololive want it is today, if they didn't want possessive fans they wouldn't have spent all that time pandering to them.

>> No.17319187

>>17313545
vtubers own me sex

>> No.17319330
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>>17313545
but i own a fucking doog

>> No.17319332

>>17317321
>"Ironic" anime fans
Jesus christ the self-awareness of this board.

>> No.17319494

hlgg:
>"They are not your girlfriends"
rushia
>"You're my boyfriend after all, right? stay with me forever"
hlgg:
>"They don't actually love you"
lamy
>"I don't say it much because it's embarrassing but...aishiteru. I love you so much"
hlgg:
>"The holos are just a character and its kayfabe, no bearing on them irl"
pekora:
>"lmao my character completely died so quickly haha, oh well guess I'll never be a cute bunny princess like Luna after all. also let me explicitly tell you that I won't cry on stream because I want to be happy for you"
hlgg:
>"Once they step off-stream they barely think about you"
kanata about marine
>"all she can talk about irl is how much she loves you guys"
hlgg:
>"They don't actually like it they're doing it for money"
kanata
>"I'll never have a partner or betray you", literally asks suisei to remove male from radio show she would appear on
hlgg:
>"They think you're disgusting and they'll never fuck you or think of you that way"
okayu:
>exists
hlgg:
>"they'd never meet you irl and hate it when you try to get closer to them"
laplus:
>pretty much everything behind her seven proxies of casual viewer gatekeeping
hlgg:
>"they hate your incel mindset and none of them agree with you about how idols 'should' behave"
korone:
>"an idol must not have a man, an idol having a partner is literally the worst kind of person"
hlgg:
>"It's just a job for them, even if they enjoy it. They're just entertainers providing a service."
multiple holos:
>break down multiple times a year from overwork and panic about no longer being loved, obsessively stalk their fans and ditch entire collab circles and partners despite doing very well before

>> No.17319585

>>17318952
Glad I'm not in a parasocial relationship with my oushi then. Sounds like being a simp is a pathetic existence.

>> No.17319700

>>17313545
It's normally not a problem. People normally don't have a break down on twitter over it. Mori getting the hate she does is expected.

>> No.17319710

>>17313545
>with whoever they want
Wrong.
Management makes the final decision for agency chuubas

>> No.17319720

>>17319585
Your existence is pathetic regardless

>> No.17319942

>>17319720
Okay Sargon.

>> No.17320087

>>17313870
That's the chuuba's fault for not trying to be so popular that simps become irrelevant.

>> No.17320235

>>17319494
ogey repschama

>> No.17320615

>>17319494
Goddammit I wish I understood Japanese.

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