/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why was Lulu bullied?

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>>17193293
Nijisanji JP antis are actual mentally ill retards who actually do go full the extent and don't LARP
She wanted to keep streaming
Her dogshit middle management kept forcing her on forced vacations and breaks to try and put a bandaid on the harassment but it only made it worse and it peaked with them sending death threats in letters to her actual house

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>>17193533
But did she do anything to trigger them in the first place?

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>>17193645
You're asking for dox shit. I hope that's enough of an answer

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>>17193645
I don't think so, I think she just had a history of stalkers (this was mentioned in her graduation stream) and the problem only got worse as she got more popular

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>>17193645
She did farm gachis the most out of the NijiJP females. She also had the largest fanbase overlap with HoloJP. Other than that, it's probably the fact that her talking about it on stream and having to take a break triggered the rest of them to start bothering her even more.

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>>17194326
>she did farm gachis
???

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>>17193533
>Nijisanji antis
It's just your usual nijfags newfagchma

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>>17193293
Nijisanji hate their popular women, that's why. Expect Lize to graduate soon too anon

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>>17194769
But the most hated niji by far is a man

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>>17193293
They're schizos, like most japanese men. I still expect to see retards push all the blame towards management as if there's ever been a way to deal with schizo stalkers.

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>>17193533
It wasn't just any harassment, it was stalking, it opened the company to liability.

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>>17193533
>management kept forcing her on forced vacations and breaks
That's because your shit holounicorn company couldn't keep their menheras in check and nijisanji was caught in the crossfire of autists demanding them to do better

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>>17194769
Yeah that’s why Shibuya Hajime is still haven’t graduated

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>>17195084
Anon, don't start theorizing, you look like a numberfag when you do that. Maybe what you said was the case, but there's no concrete statements as far as I know

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>>17194550
She's one of Niji that very rarely collab with male, rather than gachi it was Unicorn.

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>>17195084
>schizo catalogue tourist spewing random dogshit without evidence: the post

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>>17195084
What the fuck is this post

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>>17195382
Just because you rarely collab with men doesn't mean you suddenly gain unicorns as a member of nijisanji. I doubt Nui Sociere has unicorns watching her.

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>>17195798
Isn't she still a few tiers below what Lulu was at her peak? I think the anon that said Lulu had the most overlap with Holos in terms of viewers was probably the closest.

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>>17194964
>imagine defending the shitty manegement that push their talent to graduate
Dont be like coverdrones friend

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>>17196252
I don't remember Lulu being THAT popular. Look I'm not gonna talk about it too much, but the work Lulu did before Vtubing really attracted a lot of schizos and she already had to deal with stalkers before she ever even became a Vtuber. She just has a personality that attracts those people

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>>17196506
What do you think they should have done?

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>>17194964
>don't blame management
>the talent herself blamed the management

What did anon mean by this

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>>17196676
Don't put words in Lulu's mouth you nigger.

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>>17196676
when did she ever "blame" the management

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>>17193293
Her roommate is good looking

[Anonymous No.]

>>17196781
I'm going to put something else on her mouth, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh it's this thread again

[Anonymous No.]

>>17196931
I'm tired of being shitposted for thinking AC is a black company for letting go of one of their top girls.

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>>17193645
Didn't a picture of her with some man that looked scummy make the rounds on /jp/ last year or the year before?

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>>17197066
Well first you should learn what "black company" means nigger

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>>17197066
Well it can't be helped when you're this retarded. They involved the legal system, what else should they have done for her. She also wasn't really one of their top girls by that point

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>>17197212
Shut up dog

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>>17195798
Its kinda what happen with Lulu, there is noticable spark like when she's doing Fallguys tourney with Kuzuha, Fuwa, and Hima.
Not to mention the carry over fans like >>17196563 said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17193293
Lulu Pencil

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>>17193533
meanwhile in Hololive
>they sent me one mean SC idol culture needs to be cancelled

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>>17193293
She was getting famous among EOPs just like Korone.
Jelly nijifags disliked it and bullied her to graduation.
Posting Lulu on niji threads on 4chan could also give you a ban due mass report and shitpost replies.

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>>17193645
95% likely it's from the unironic idol part of her past.

>>17193929
If it's JPs, especially NijiJPs, the mods don't care. I've seen Lulu's, Hoshikawa's, and Mito's RL pics hit the archive.

[Anonymous No.]

They will also put the fault on Lulu for the graduation by saying things like this 17196563
Which makes no sense to put together with the unicorn argument.

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>>17203959
People just want to somehow blame holofans for it. It's very silly.

I think management was unironically in the right and Lulu not being in the company is a good reduction in liability even if it comes with a small loss of revenue. Not even a nijifag or an anti.

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>>17204146
I can understand the policy if the intention was keeping her out of the public eye during the legal procedures against the antis to stop escalating things, but this doesn't work on the long run if the attacks don't stop and eventually the constant breaks just adds to the fuel, I hope they realized they need some different approaches after what happened to lulu

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>>17204146
>spoiler
it was a fucking anime girls sitting on her room playing old shit for hours
if there is something to blame are the nijifags and their shitty work environment full of jelly retards doxing each other

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>>17195084
I have a theory that a large number of catalog readers do not even watch vtubers at all. They're only in it for the drama and their only knowledge is whatever rrats other fellow readers make up

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>>17204483
I can tell you're an oldfag that knows their shit because you posted a common screenshot from an old EN subbed clip of an even older stream in a bait thread

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>>17204495

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>>17204686
I do that to gather more nijifags trying to change the history with fake rrats posts

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>>17204392
It was, her graduation stream is fully translated if you want to listen to it, and some threads on it talked about hindsight things she mentioned on her breaks. Another thing that made her leave was these legal breaks made her miss out on 3D performances. The problem with Lulu is that her schizos are dedicated and Nijisanji cannot change the way Japanese police force works. They basically do not help you unless your harasser basically writes their full name and address into your arm with a knife. Kaida Haru talked about it before too. Her going on breaks allowed them to fine the schizos and take them to court and say "look you're harming her career and livelihood"
However Lulu herself doesn't give a shit as she has dealt with this before being Lulu. I never wanted her to leave but I never felt comfortable with how she talked about that shit, it's too lax.

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>>17204392
You and most nigger here clearly don't understand how Japanese law work. Police don't consider stalking as crime until the victim was harmed. So to make this a police case, Nijisanji have to force Lulu to take a break so they can convict stalkers for psychological harm. It succeeded and stalker was sent to jail. Unfortunately, Lulu think stalkers is not a big deal and hate AnyColor for forcing her to take a break. So she quit. This is the dilemmas here because if Anycolor didn't do anything, the stalking might get worse and Lulu might get harmed and might kill Nijisanji's reputation. So, they simply cannot ignore it.

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>>17204763
But holofags literally coined the term "rrats" because they were never around for any of the history that they obsessively insist keeps being revised....

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>>17204392
I think reducing liability is more important than whatever the talent wants. Lulu getting stabbed on their watch or maybe using Lulu's immensely well known face to stalk other people in the company is a massive liability. Physical safety is paramount, people are nothing without their health and well being.

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>>17204483
Are you retard believe in Dedechi's rrat?

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>>17204830
>her graduation stream is fully translated
Wait, all of it? I've seen clips but surely not the whole thing (unless you're talking about LiveTL).

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>>17204954
it was memed by /v/fags watching pekoras msg streams way back in the stealth hololive /v/ threads
it also always had the same nijifag shill posting gibara and some random dude webms trying to get some fans into nijis

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>>17204961
Yes, fuck the talents, all hail anycolor covering their ass
It's Lulu's fault for not acting like a helpless damsel
Nijiniggers, everyone
Then they wonder why everyone in Japan hates them and they have to find refuge on 4chan

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>>17204763
Is this new gaslight tactic to push your modus operandi on Nijinigger? Because you are the only one who trying to change history.

[Anonymous No.]

>cover didn't do enough for aloe
>it was Lulu's fault, nijisanji did everything they could
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>17197066
AC cares about the brand first, stakeholders second, streamers maybe third or forth. Just because it's a shit company to work for, doesn't make it a black company since it's still legal.

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>>17205174
Who is saying it's Lulu's fault? She never asked for stalkers. It's the stalkers fault.

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>>17205109
>shill posting Gibara
Gibara and Lulu are the biggest Holomagnet. Majority of their fans are Holo convert. Basically same situation with new NijiEn.

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>>17197066
Anycolor has done plenty of retarded shit, but you can't possibly say that it's fine for them to take 0 action when Lulu got letters saying they'd harm and kill her to her house.

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>>17205174
Learn how to read you retard, I've said the exact opposite, cover didn't do shit for aloe and nijisanji was caught with the retards asking for more action, lulu would still be here if they just kept ignoring the retards sending hate letters

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>>17205174
Aloe could've actually come back and in hindsight it would've done wonders for her mental health
She wasn't fired at all, she just said fuck this I'm out
Also it's not Lulu's fault she's an attractive human, sadly Japan doesn't do enough as a country to stop the behaviors of mentally ill shut ins or insane idolfag stalkers
However, ANYCOLOR literally had 0 idea how the fuck handle such matters, hiding her away or letting her do what she wants, they only put down 1 retard to send a message and the hive still kept trying to ruin her life

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>>17205110
>Jap having to take refuge is EN board
Shamefur dispray

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>>17205110
Covershill gaslight tactic:
Blatant lie on situations in Jp. Even though Nijisanji is still popular and it was Hololive who got kicked by two different website.

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>>17205455
the retarded haters knew her address because of the work virement

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>>17205109
>it was memed by /v/fags watching pekoras msg streams way back in the stealth hololive /v/ threads
That rrat clip from snake eater got the ball rolling on it as a meme but it took on a whole other meaning because of the rampant narratives on /jp/ due to all of the new traffic from Holo's incline.
>it also always had the same nijifag shill posting gibara and some random dude webms trying to get some fans into nijis
I dunno how to tell you this but Gibara, Lulu, Roa, and Hima were popular with the same crowd on /v/ that Holo became popular with because they got clips and were easily memeable without needing to understand JP. I'm very familiar with those /v/ threads that would be made and deleted daily because I used to try to shill Animare/774 in some of them and I even got into vtubers in 2017 because of a Kizuna Ai video posted there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17205455
>ignoring the retards sending hate letters
Why would they ignore people who knew her home address and were harassing her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17205463
Read this
>>17204932

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>>17205455
Dude just ignore death threats (something illegal) to your personal home address even though your job is to just stream another identity lmao
Like dude just throw out your mail and the problem will go away

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>>17205659
We don't know how actually serious it was, she sure sounded more annoyed about going on breaks than about the people wanting to kill her

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>>17205696
That doesn't invalidate my point
Making an example of one retard with mental issues doesn't quell the fire of MANY retards with mental issues
I get what you're saying, Roa has been gone OVER A YEAR because of the same shit, however they were forcing her to stop streaming even before the legal action because they had 0 fucking plan and because Japan is a shit fucking country
Maybe if they moved her to a new home but ANYCOLOR bending over backwards for their own breadmakers? Lmao not in a million years

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>>17205346
>>17205625
the gibara and the random dude threads and even mito threads on /v/ had less than 50 replies and always died
then the nijishill had to samefag with its same shit on holo /v/ threads
> because of the rampant narratives on /jp/
and who the hell do you think that did these narratives and silly jokes? yes, the newfags from /v/
>>17205659
they will say- >>17205740
hayai

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>>17205740
She literally said she got a letter of challenge (death threat) she specifically said it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17193645
Flex on the horde of "failed idols" in this industry just by existing I guess?
>>17194326
>>17195382
She didn't really collab full stop. 99% of her antis were past life carryovers.
>>17197086
That dude was the "protagonist" of her old job, not gonna say any more because I don't want to go on holiday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17205918
And she didn't move and is still streaming

[Anonymous No.]

Check these replies:
>>>/jp/22708916
>>>/jp/22708888
But it's ok when Niji does it:
>>>/jp/22709003

[Anonymous No.]

>>17205985
>move
would it work? your friend just said >>17204961
lel

[Anonymous No.]

>>17206135
Learn English nijinigger no one understands what you are implying

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>>17206201
you are suggesting the fact she didn't move means the death thread is a fucking lie
but your friend says that lulu itself was a threat to the company because she was well known or whatever
and thus moving out wouldn't work
make up your rrats, nijifags

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>>17205821
First, we clearly don't know what happen to Roa. She might busy with her school and mental stress from Meiro's. Second, you don't know what is going on with Lulu either. Anycolor might did ask Lulu to move out but Lulu refused, or they didn't. And if AnyColor ignore their talent like what your schizo voice said, they wouldn't have bother making all legal shit trying to convict the stalkers.

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>>17206375
He was talking about liability you retard, lulu herself wasn't the problem, they just don't want anyone under their care to get fucking stabbed on the street

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>>17206375
No, it means Lulu was never in real danger and Any Color picked covering their asses over letting a grown woman stream

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>>17206439
Lulu left because anycolor mismanaged the fuck out of her situation
There is no other way to interpret her words, the breaks, and how she streams still
Unless you think Anycolored kneeled to a single schizo who wanted Lulu specifically to stop existing and didn't care much about the girl

[Anonymous No.]

Can this stupid nigger just understand that neither parties are at fault in this situation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17206684
The correst word is overmanaged or overprotective. Like I said, they have to make situations big or they cannot do anything to Lulu's stalker. Unfortunately, Lulu doesn't like it.

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>>17206686
Shh... Holobronies need to make AnyColor black company or Cover cannot win this tribal war.

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>>17207149
Shut the fuck Muhammed

[Anonymous No.]

>losing the 13th most popular person in your company that rarely did company events and brought little value outside of wringing a few gachi of some pennies
Oh no, armageddon!!!

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>>17205854
>and who the hell do you think that did these narratives and silly jokes? yes, the newfags from /v/
I dunno why you feel the need to clarify that because back then and even now to some extent "Holofag" is just a synonym for newfag because it was obvious where they came from and why.

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>>17207388
Any graduation is bad news, even more one directly caused by the manageament

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>>17207149
Listen here you little ESL tribalnigger
Ichikara (because their new fucking name is retarded globalization nonsense) have a shit PR track record. Literally worse than Hololive
No vtuber company has ever had good a PR department because they're tech start ups started by socially stunted fucking idiots who don't wanna expense on their weak ass bills further hiring a lawfirm to speak on their behalf

Is Lulu perfect? No she's not, she's quite frankly an idiot who doesn't value the threats of psychopaths in Japan but she might just be numb from her due to her careers in life so I can't say she's THAT dumb because she's probably right in that they're empty threats from online phony tough guys.
Ichikara are still fucking idiots who can't control a narrative to save their life or value their talents for shit. The way Lulu painted everything points to her being exhausted of being shackled by her controllers and not having any freedom to do what she wants and that's simply stream, which hey guess what, she's still doing and having a great time doing it.

This has nothing to do with Hololive vs Ichikara, so fuck yourself as someone who painfully supports that goofy looking nigger's talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>17207549
Most of you celebrated when Hololive graduated 6 members at once and don't pretend you're not all gonna be dancing with delight once Matsuri is gone.

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>>17207819
Actually no, Hololive was given an ultimatum (a frankly easy one) and made the (right) choice to retire an entire branch that was losing them money

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know why you faggots have to involve Hololive in this when stalkers are a thing in Japan before Hololive OR Nijisanji was even created.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17207819
I only celebrated aloe because she was a dumb whore who dug her own grave and her "fanbase" is 100% saviorfags willing to die for a girl they barely watched once

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>>17207893
Because they're retarded ESLs who don't even follow a single Niji talent and discovered vtubing during the pandemic
I doubt they can even name a single fucking company outside the two without scrolling the catalogue
Actual cavemen brained mud dwellers who speak in tongues and only know my tribe good your tribe bad

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>>17207819
I think Matsuri is one of the few Holos nijifags like

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>>17207819
>anon says he thinks graduations are bad news
>you come up with the random idea that he likes it when Holos graduate
Can someone explain this mentality to me? I encounter it so many times even as a Nijifag where people will just put words in my mouth on both sides.

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>>17207893
Hololive derangement syndrome
Anything bad that happens anywhere is somehow hololive's fault
Anything good Cover does is despite hololive
Remember to throw in idol culture somewhere in your post and you've got nijinigger EN newfags

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>>17207984
The first person to bring up hololive in this thread was indirectly blaming hololive fans for the Lulu situation.

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>>17208055
see >>17208062
Welcome to the problem with NijiEN retards who have 0 experience with the company and only ever knew like 5 holoJPs and Myth
It's never a reasonable discussion, it's all deflection to the other company that's not even their competitor, but the company they don't like because they're a contrarian fucknut

[Anonymous No.]

>>17208128
I did not ask for a tribalistic response. Why are you resorting to saying "it's because they belong to x tribe"

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>>17208128
Well you might as well go back to /jp/ since everyone here is just either holobabies who joined after gen4/myth or frustrated holobabies who jumped to nijien

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>>17208170

It all boils down to the "us v them" mentality, there is no unity, it's the sports logic of eurotards and burgers combined with the inane ESL bullshit SEAfags pull out of their assholes to try and fit in but in the end they just get called stupid. Pick a team and anyone in your ball field is an enemy you should root to die or fail

or to put it simply, welcome to another version of consolewars

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>>17208325
I'm a SEAfag and I believe in unity, but I don't know enough about this topic to even make a post until now because I have nothing interesting or meaningful to add. have a nice day anons

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>>17208055
These threads and /vt/ as a board exist to try to contain people sowing artificial discourse by being retarded on purpose because they can't actually engage with vtubers due to the bulk of the content having a language filter. That's it, it's just faggots trying to entertain themselves while tangentially attached to something they are vaguely aware of and is relatively new and spicy with a lot of fresh meat to go around.

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>>17208062
Holofags also blame nijisanji all the time, I don't know why it is ok for only your side to do it.
>idol culture
And this, Holofags started criticizing it since Towa.

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>>17208648
Don't confuse Holofags with reddit retards who've never been apart of an idol centric fandom in their lives
Every other habitat of "idol culture" has existed literally fine in real life but because this is digital all of sudden stupid burgers wanna tear it down because it's too different for them and forces them into a position they're not comfortable in or they're in denial they love idolshit after years of talking shit about Kpop fans or the like
Do idol fandoms have their problems? Oh absolutely, more cons than good, but they're not so bad that you should all of sudden just make it normie twitch garbage because that's what these zoomers brains are used to

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>>17208648
I'm going to say something that hurts your feelings
Hololive fans don't even think about nijisanji
Back on /jp/, the biggest schizos were unironic nijiniggers, nijisanji got preferential treatment by the mods, etc
Now global is /jp/s biggest anti and no one really talks about nijisanji there, and global has more infighting than anyone blaming nijisanji

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>>17208799
I've been discussing chuubas since 2019 and this dude is 100% right especially since the dude with the biggest stick up his sphincter has always been nijimod on /jp/
If anything there's an actual positive outlook on the Nijisanji girls than anything from one side

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>>17208799
>bring up /jp/ boogeyman when none of those boogeyman even in here.
All they want is (you) to fuck off and they succeeded. Why don't you bring those nip schizos while you are at it?

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>>17193293
NIJI stil has the most menhera fans/antis. That's why Luna left Niji for Hololive.

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>>17208953
Funny you say that considering retards who get a 24 hour ban for posting doxxshit here are currently /jp/hlg's #1 issue
So yeah, maybe stay here and stop crossing the border, asshat

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>>17208799
>Hololive fans don't even think about nijisanji
I fucking wish, I actually miss when the catalog was just Holo threads instead of all this shit baiting and falseflagging from retards that don't even do a good job in hiding that they don't actually watch nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>17195016
>Meanwhile at Cover.....
Mel got openly harrassed by her manager and stalked by the fucker and all cover did was change his position it took a full blown lawsuit by Mel to get the fucker outted

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>>17209128
Good old hololive derangement syndrome

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>>17209106
they dont watch any streams mate, i hate to break it to you, they are literal discords of shitposters but it's not even a "hot take" to say that, it's proven multiple boards across this shithole are just organized raids by unsubtle teenagers getting their kicks off astroturfing misinformation and harassment
hiroshima will never embed hardware bans, and it sucks

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>>17209168
I'm just pointing out how odd it is that one company literally tried to keep the harasser on while still keeping the chubba while the other tossed the chubba out the door instead of helping them despite the harassment coming from outside the company...really makes you think

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>>17209245
But you just lied about Mel
Really makes me think

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209348
In a Lulu thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209245
are you implying lulu was fired?

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>>17208796
I'm talking about things I've read over here though, I hate that stupid anti-idol sentiment westerners have too though.
>>17208799
Oh, it's ok, don't worry. Back in /jp/ I really despised both of you, despite me being a fan of Hololive and Nijisanji.

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>>17208799
>Hololive fans don't even think about nijisanji
This is not true. They both live in each others minds rent free no matter what echo chamber general you reside in.

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>>17208799
>Back on /jp/, the biggest schizos were unironic nijiniggers
But that's not 2Dhater & friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209348
Thats actually not a lie do your reps retard she's even tweeted about having to settle matters through seeing a lawyer faggot in relation to her own manager stalking and harassing her Jesus newfag really do know nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209510
It wasn't her own manager
I'll let you go from there

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209412
I'm implying the there seems to be a running theme of management for chubbas in corpos acting like black companies regardless of the actual company is this a normal jap buisness practice or something?

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>>17193645
Look at literally any of the drama on this board and ask that again.

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>>17209550
It was confirmed by Mel that it was an employee who kept her locked in late under the guise of talking about future stream plans other than a manager who would they be talking about future steam plans with?

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>>17209560
Japan's business outlook is Corporate Image > Individual image
In Japan they usually just weed out someone not from upper management or they make the whole "we're sorry as a WHOLE company" dogeza type shit
The complete opposite of the spectrum for example in America is Individual image such as the CEO being forced to step down amidst a scandal he may not have had anything to do with because they are the face of a company and that is somehow seen as "purifying the waters"

[Anonymous No.]

>all these anons blaming Lulu, Management, or Ichikara
The root cause of all this shit are stalkers in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209681
So basically if your getting harassed as part of your job its not our problem its yours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209680
I don't know, anyone from the executive board? A tech guy? You EOPs are always funny when you say it's her manager, whom has been the same for years. There were barely any other people in the company back then.

[Anonymous No.]

At least Lulu kept her core audience. Gibara didn't even pass 1k viewers on her gta stream a couple days ago...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209745
How the fuck the discussion ended up here when lulu literally said that the problem was the way management dealt with the situation instead of negligence?

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>>17209780
Except she has talked about having a new manager retardchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209855
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209830
Nigger if management handled it poorly that is negligence do you not undertsand the words you fucking typed

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209830
Hololive derangement syndrome
Nijiniggers are mentally ill

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209932
How is it negligence do to too much? They got the schizo behind bars but lulu didn't wanted to go thought a month long break every time a new retarded letter arrived

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209736
For some reason anons are really hesitant to shit on faceless Japanese people

[Anonymous No.]

>>17207927
>I only celebrated aloe
why? she did nothing wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>17209989
They got one guy out of hundreds not the guy that forced the breaking point situation

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>>17209989
Because they failed to do shit properly look up the actual fucking definition of neglagince it goes both ways doing too much or doing too little fucking /vt/ brain rot I swear

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>>17209989
they neglected their talents wishes.

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>>17208799
This is true niggas.

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>>17210019
She did everything wrong

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>>17210152
Her roommate did promise to fuck all her fans once she got famous so saviorfags must be onto something

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>>17210152
I'd say she did very little wrong besides being too young and impressionable to stay with hololive
Nene dox her, nijiniggers find an old clip and go postal, stalking and harassing her and her family including the abusive shithead dad

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>>17210152
>She did everything wrong
how is having mental illness, be abused by your dad and getting stalked, her fault?

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>>17210152
The only thing she did wrong was to continue having that fanbox where antis could use ammo against her while she had bipolar breakdowns and I am glad she stopped that.

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>>17193293
dumb holobrony

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>>17207702
>she's quite frankly an idiot who doesn't value the threats of psychopaths
I think she might be genuinely a little bit bad at experiencing fear, like in an actually autistic kind of way.

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>>17209736
Typical company shit flinging combined with schizophrenic tribalfags. Which is stupid as fuck considering both companies have severely fucked up in handling and protecting their talents from similar problems.

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>>17203580
It unironically needs to die. Its a bastion of mentally ill retards

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>>17208799
>Hololive fans don't even think about nijisanji
lol

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>>17210019
She was the bottom of the barrel whore with daddy issues, literally nicknamed "whore" on nico. Still, mostly recruiters fault for being useless and even accepting her

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>>17193293
why do you think we call them nijiniggers?

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>>17193293
Nijisanji bad.

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>>17215357
You're the retard here anon, why do so many people who say this shit not comprehend that idol culture dying literally just means idols losing their jobs and the market shrinking?
You're not going to force money from peoples wallets for shit they don't like you absolute idiots. Idol culture is the only reason the industry is as profitable as it is, literally look at any country in the west and notice the complete lack of that industry because it doesn't exist, it can't exist, it does not make enough money without that market period. Idols over here used to be marketed to teen girls, and inevitably the industry died because shockingly, teen girls don't have money to throw around.
Idols appeal to people seeking gfe and it's the only way they make money, either accept that or accept the death of the industry and the loss of all their jobs there's no magic inbetween i'm afraid

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>>17193293
Used to be an irl idol, chances are that's the entire reason for whatever retard stalkers she got. Ultimately she didn't care about them though, her management is what cucked her with their garbage control, as you can see by the fact she almost immediately resumed streaming by herself. She deserved better

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>>17219973
I'm pretty sure that the streaming industry and the music industry are both bigger in the west than in Japan, and they manage to do it without the idol culture.

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>>17221084
Vtubers aren't 'streamers' anon and that's what you fail to understand. Nor are they singers, those are just parts of what they do. Almost zero vtubers could make it in the music industry alone, and very few of them would have anywhere near the same kind of viewers were they just 3d streamers with facecams. There's a reason a bunch of facecam streamers switched over to being vtubers.
These people are selling themselves as a product, not their music, not their gameplay, they're selling their character, personality and engagement. You will never do that without the idol culture, just look at every 3d woman streamer in the west who has a fucking onlyfans or sits talking about dicks all the time or offering asmr farts for donos or dancing around in hot tubs in bikinis, because they need to attract another audience to make money.
Your mistake is failing to understand what the idol industry actually is and trying to compare it to other industries that are wildly different. The idol industry doesn't exist outside of asia for a reason, the industries died because they didn't want to deal with rabid feminists and muh strong independant womyn attitudes if they tried to make them abide by idol rules, and because there's nobody they can market those kind of people to that will actually make enough money to bother.

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>>17196676
>the talent herself blamed the management
>creating imaginary fact on spot

T-they are too powerful!!

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>>17195798
>I doubt Nui Sociere has unicorns watching her
About half of /vt/ users are unicorns though most refuse to admit to it, even to themselves. She definitely has people watching her who genuinely think she’s their soulmate

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>>17209681
It's not just corporate image, it's legal liability. You can be sure any american company would do much the same if they faced a similar situation, just change stalking for some other crime that's more prevalent in the USA.

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>>17193293
Too beautiful in a black company full of bullies

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>>17221505
Strange that she still talks to them

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>>17221505
What a beautiful ability to regurgitate MTL-fed schizos.

Your onion is being bullied by Sasaki as we speak, do something about it, KEK.

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>>17209827
Lulu's unicorn fanbase is a cult, people said she was closest to hololive for a reason

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>>17209474
The only sane person here
It was started by a few SEAnig/Latinx shitposters from /v/ when a big influx of new people came to /jp/, it was a paradise for them

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>>17205109
lmao, posting Gibara and Lulu in the niji /jp/ thread was the biggest give away you're holofag
now posting the msug AI image nigger

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>>17204495
I mean, there is also the non regulars who only show up when a drama event happens and otherwise just watch their chuba in peace and dont keep track of anything outside their bubble

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Any colored is a black company

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Anon is a black nigger

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I heccin love Lulu

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>>17221250
The closest thing the west has ever had to idols were boy bands and girl bands, and those sometimes still pop up and some of them are more successful than any Japanese idol group, but they have never been bound by the no dating rules. And it is not because of feminism, but because western values like individualism and freedom which would make most people here think that the restrictions would be really creepy.
I don't think that the average western vtuber watcher really cares that much about idols or idol culture, they are just weebs, which is becoming pretty mainstream. Even if it was reveled that any vtuber had a secret boyfriend, I don't think that the western viewer base would take that big of a hit or even care that much outside of 4chan. So any vtuber that is big in the west would still be successful without the idol shit, the problem is just not getting stabbed by the Japanese fans.

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>>17194964
Hire russian hitmen and end the stalkers.