/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>JP branch:
>girls are eager to do their best
>thankful to their fans
>if there is a faggot causing trouble in chat they humbly tell him to stop or ban him if needed, no overblown drama nor follow up fueling the flames
>if they fuck up they shortly after make a public apology and move on
>the other branches:
>yubigate
>states that she's eager to break hololive's rules
>1 month burying her dog
>invites people that hate hololive into her streams
>"leans"
>publicly rates fan art of her fans being cucked
Is the difference in culture isn't?

[Anonymous No.]

Ayame.

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>>17057847
not all of them are bad. at least their number one never gets any yab. graduation is the best outcome really to avoid dragging other sincere members down with them

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>>17057847
Difference in ethics and in being humble about they opportunities they were given.

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>>17057847
Yubigate was the most schizo made up shit of all time, hence why only you remember it

>>17058072
Only holo I'm subbed to, I don't need you to spam streams 7 days a week for the same games a thousand other chuubas are doing, just give me one good stream once in a while.

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>>17058072
she cute though

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>>17058072
/thread

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>>17057847
Tbf for the IDs, the yabs are coming from just ollie. Saying the entire id is bad is like saying the entire jp is bad cause matsuri went menhera.

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>>17057847
Literally remove one EN and one ID and all of your problems with the other branches would be gone. Except Sana but she was working on commissions over that month

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>>17057847
JP branch has had 3 graduations over drama or rule breaking.
EN and ID combined have 0.

Checkmate.

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>>17057847
remove ollie and mori from hololive
there you go, 90% of the problems gone. if wasn't for the managers, HoloEN would be full twitch culture now

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>>17058442
Don't count your chickens just yet.

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>>17058314
Wait wait wait, that was the reason? damn girl just say that you're busy, there is no need to kill pets or relatives

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>>17058072
Is cute!

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>>17057847
You definitely have a distorted view because you can't speak Japanese (YWNBJ btw), so you either forgot or don't even know about the controversies JP Holomems have gone through.
>inb4 so what calli did is ok then???
No. I'm just showing you that your view on things is distorted because you can't even understand 95% of what your favorites are saying.

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>>17059618
Ogey

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>>17057847
You've never watched ID right? ID is exactly like that, even better they would just ban the troublemakers without saying anything and then proceed to tell the other viewers to not do the same thing as that particular person. And not limited to Holo ID, other ID chuubas are basically have almost none of the drama.

That's only EN thing. Western culture is just unsuitable for this vtuber world.

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently someone has forgotten about the Taiwan bullshit, the Haachama suicide reference backlash, Towa's "brothers" in the background of her stream, Matsuri's roommate bullshit, Ayame's lack of streams and telling fans not to write any criticisms about her because it hurts her feelings, and Aqua feeling the need to go on hiatus after some fans displayed a distaste in her playing Apex all the time. The JP branch has plenty of controversies a lot of which were also handled without much grace.

Were they all warranted? No. Frankly I don't think any of them really were including Calli's current situation. Calli handled this poorly, but it's only a controversy in the first place for that reason. This is not new ground for the talents of Hololive.

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>>17058442
>EN and ID combined have 0
This post won't age well. Mori graduation in a few days once the memo reaches Yagoo.

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>>17058072
Sana

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>>17057847
Hololive would've been nothing without drama, and since the old dramas have died down after Coco's graduation, they have become nothing. They are so boring. Why would anyone want to watch an unfunny 30+ year old woman pretending to be a cartoon characters while playing video games for hours? This is not entertaining in the slightest. We only put up with it because we were waiting for the climax of the drama. We got that climax when Coco graduated. The only reason that the stream got so popular is because it was the climax. We were all wating for the previous drama to end, but after that, there was nothing to look forward to. The drama was over, and essentially Hololive was over.

Now because of Calli, the exiting drama has a sequel. The difference is that this time it will be about incels of /vt/ vs normies of youtube/twitter. I expect this will drive up Calliope's popularity as normies come to her resque. The more /vt/ reacts negatively to it, the stronger the drama will get, the more normies will try to save her, and the more popular she'll become. This drama will continue until it ends in either a climatic way (Calliope graduates) or an anticlimatic way (incels give up and normies gradually stop caring). Either way, this drama is good business for Hololive, and you can expect Cover to milk it.

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>>17060289
>And not limited to Holo ID, other ID chuubas are basically have almost none of the drama.
Lol you're so full of shit retard.

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>>17059739
He is right doe.

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>>17058312
>Tbf for the IDs, the yabs are coming from just ollie
>casually forgotten moona's alcohol yabs

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>>17060400
Last samurai faggots barely know any of this. And if they did, they forgot or just purposely ignore it all so they can paint their perfect little picture. They don't actually speak Japanese either (most of them), if they did they wouldn't make such stupid threads as this one. Only EOPs could have such a one-sided view of not just Hololive but Japan in general.

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>>17060475
KYS now

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>>17057847
Coco didn’t apologize shit. She got a buttplug too far up her ass.

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>>17060913
This reads like a zhang post

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>>17060475
>The more /vt/ reacts negatively to it, the stronger the drama will get, the more normies will try to save her, and the more popular she'll become. This drama will continue until it ends in either a climatic way (Calliope graduates) or an anticlimatic way (incels give up and normies gradually stop caring)
Ah, someone else saw that endgame too
And it's starting already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2S1s39NlC4

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>>17061040
>Please mentally deranged internet strangers don't fuck this up for those of us who really like Calli and want to continue supporting her
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
get fucked

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>>17058312
>Iofi bullying Gura over amogus

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>>17060400
>Taiwan bullshit
You lost zhang, get over it and fuck of
>Haachama suicide reference backlash
What backlash? Everyone liked the schizo arc, and at at worst thought it felt forced. The only "backlash" was YouTube's inconsistant "community guidelines"
>Towa's "brothers" in the background of her stream
>Matsuri's roommate bullshit
nobody but here and 5chan even noticed, let alone cared.
>Ayame's lack of streams
This is a valid criticism
>Aqua feeling the need to go on hiatus
Please be patient, she has autism

Keep coping cuckbeat

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>>17058522
Speaking of chickens, I’d like Kiara to graduate solely so her roommate would have to resort to doing JAVs or something like that.

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>>17060913
OP's point was that it was cultural difference that are responsible for the difference in branch behavoir. Coco is cultural American so of course she acts more like an EN whore. Though at least she had the good sense to shut the fuck up when she knew she'd stirred the pot too far.

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>>17061415
>>Towa's "brothers" in the background of her stream
>>Matsuri's roommate bullshit
>nobody but here and 5chan even noticed, let alone cared.
nobody but here will care about Mori's shit either. anyone outside of here already doesn't give a fuck: >>17061040 Check the video in that post

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>>17061477
1 in 200 girls in Japan have done JAV at some point
There's 36 Japanese streamers, plus the 4 or so that lived in Japan at some point

Basically, there's a 50/50 chance that your oshi has done porn.

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>>17061675
She did some gravure stuff I’ve coomed to, but her doing JAV would be awesome.

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>>17061477
>I’d like Kiara to graduate solely so her roommate would have to resort to doing JAVs
Somehow deadbeats are cuckolds though... She's not even in Japan right now you immense faggot

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>>17061675
Aqua...

[Anonymous No.]

I wish western vtubers had a HololiveJP equivalent. HololiveEN is a significantly worse version of the product, VSluts are just degenerates and nobody fucking knows who the target audience of NijiEN is even supposed to be with their weird ass desire to incorporate homos into everything.
English vtubers are a fucking mess.

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>>17061849
I just wanna see her at least get gangbanged by a bunch of groids.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm glad karma is finally catching up to ENfags. No more 'EN is the strongest branch JP is irrelevant' bullshit from their side.

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>>17057847
>>publicly rates fan art of her fans being cucked
Wait what? And I'm guessing her cuck fans still defended her?

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>>17062006
>I wish western vtubers had a HololiveJP equivalent
That's impossible, because that would require them to be Japanese women that can speak English. You have Pikamee, but who else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17062006
JP style corpotubing isn't possible because it requires a culturally reinforced mentality that simply doesn't exist anywhere in the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17062006
>>17062133
YWNBJ

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>>17058072
>i'd rather 7 Minecraft streams a week than 1 good stream every once in a while!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17062133
Irys
Hoshikawa

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>>17058072
she spends half of her day on the can, give the girl some slack
let's see you try streaming while taking a shit every 30 minutes

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>>17061327
>Shrimp bullying Iofi because Gura and Shrimps are EOPs

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>>17062006
>HololiveEN is a significantly worse version of the product
The only reason you say that is because you can't actually understand Japanese so you have a rose-tinted view of HololiveJP and Japan.
People on this board always complain about the immature jokes of English-speaking Vtubers and streamers in general ("dick jokes" and "poop jokes") but if you actually watch streams or hell even watch clips you find JP members making the exact same jokes.
Japanese people are human. They are not that different from you. They just speak a different language you retarded faggots.

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>>17062458
>The only reason you say that is because you can't actually understand Japanese so you have a rose-tinted view of HololiveJP and Japan
Please show me when the HoloJP member collabed with Trash Taste, fed the antis and tweeted about purple drank.

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>>17058250
>Yubigate was the most schizo made up shit of all time, hence why only you remember it
Nice try zombrab but it's been permanently etched into Ollie's identity in vt, which still doesn't fucking matter so I don't get why you try to downplay it further.

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>>17062426
Well she can at least make the effort to stream whike shitting

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>>17062458
I know Japanese and mainly consume Marine, Nene and Watame content. EN is just falling apart currently and never mastered the art of healing your soul through the medium of a cute anime girl to the same extent as JP in the first place. It's the single best aspect of vtubing and english vtubers are hilariously awful at it. It's such a big void currently even though it's supposed to be the biggest selling point of the industry.

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>>17062518
Please show me when a HoloEN member did any of this: >>17060400
The OP is trying to make the point that somehow the branches address controversy differently due to cultural reasons, but he's wrong because none of the branches are without controversy or (sloppily addressed ones at that), anon.
Also I'm not defending Mori if that's the impression you're getting, it's on her to address what she did. I'm just showing you that you're full of shit and tribalfagging for no good reason. They're all part of the same company

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>>17063035
None of that is even remotely comparable to what Mori has been doing the last few days. Ayame doesn't stream that much? Aqua stopped playing Apex? Who the fuck cares? This also includes many EN yabs, such as Ina "hating" her fans or even Amegeddon. What Mori did is a million fucking times worse than what any JP has ever done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17062901
>consume Marine
also:
>never mastered the art of healing your soul through the medium of a cute anime girl
I think Gura's done pretty well on that end

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>>17058072
She has a cute voice

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>>17063190
Gura has been a lethargic mess for god knows how long now.

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>>17063297
>Gura has been a lethargic mess
Hang on, that's an entirely different point. I was replying to the point in your other post about "healing the soul through an anime girl" (which is subjective bullshit anyway), which has nothing to do with that. People still really seem to like Ayame despite the whole "lethargy" thing so what the fuck does that matter?

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>>17057847
In America rebelliousness is considered a positive trait so slacking off at work or fucking with your employer's business are tolerated and indeed expected.

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>>17063141
>Ayame doesn't stream that much? Aqua stopped playing Apex? Who the fuck cares?
Why do you say the "who the fuck cares" when you don't even speak Japanese? Of course you don't give a fuck EOPchama. People DID give a fuck though, in the past. And it's the same for this stupid shit with Mori right now people. People give a fuck now but it will be old news in less than a month.

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>>17062740
Im getting noraneko flashbacks.

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>>17063712
The Japanese care if you put a doujin in the fridge for too long. They're fucking ruthless and if they had a Mori she would have graduated already. I'm applying Western standards, and they've done nothing wrong.

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>>17060518
If it's shitty then tell us the biggest yabs of ID vtuber industry, it's not like there's a lot of it aside from what you see here

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>>17063526
It matters because if Ayame doesn't give a fuck you can just watch literally dozens of other cute anime girls being cute in HoloJP. HoloEN is small in numbers already, so when like, half of them seem to not even like their job and barely do anything you've got a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>i see you're mentioning all these yabs but, since i won't acknowledge it, it is now a nothingburger and these yabs i mentioned are the ones that should be talked about

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>>17057847
>1 month burying her dog
This is somehow worse than the months of breaks our frail JP girls take just to avoid dying on stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17058072
Is a whore.

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>>17057847
there's a difference in hiring standards. that's all it is.

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>>17064029
>if Ayame doesn't give a fuck you can just watch literally dozens of other cute anime girls being cute
And for EN, that can be fixed by just adding more members, my nigger.
>half of them seem to not even like their job
The keyword is 'seem'. That's the impression you get from 4chan, but have you actually ever watched a single one of them? Have you ever tried to form your own opinion on anything in your life?
>barely do anything
Again, this is an impression you get from 4chan. And "barely do anything" compared to who or what? Compared to HoloJP, whom you already acknowledge has more members? Compared to daytime TV? Twitch streamers? I think they've done exceedingly well for being the very first EN generation.

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>>17061040
Holy shit AHAHAHAHAHAHA
I saw the whole video and it's fucking hilarious

>The Connor comments
No shit he's technically not wrong, but as another anon said: just because you joined the Yankees it doesn't mean that you can preform poorly
>Cuckoldry
It's funny to see people taking statements made by a bunch of trolls unironically, now I can't wait to see people blaming muh incels or idol culture
>The backlash
I'm sure this became about Mori being a dumbass the moment she replied to that tweet. Again, none of this would've happened if Mori had just ignored the situation
>The screenshots in the video
HE'S FUCKING HERE

Revtard is a rrat seller, and he's just adding fuel to the flames by discussing about "drama". Cuckbeats damage controlling only cause harm to their oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>17063885
>They're fucking ruthless and if they had a Mori she would have graduated already
OK, and what would have been the thing that she did already to cause graduation if she was in HoloJP?

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>>17064467
Well, they don't have an equivalent to TT in Japanese, but tweeting about drug abuse would get your graduated faster than you can say Jitomi Monoe. I also bet not caring about Hololive (5%, missing genmates birthdays, etc) would make them angry.

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>>17058072
Kek fpbp /thread. OP BTFO'd.

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>>17057847
>JP branch
>Gets flamed by unironic jannies
Rumao

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>>17064860
>Gets flamed by nijis
I saw the accounts, taking that aside they apologized and moved on.

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>>17065065
Still doesn't change that the JP branch does dumb shit and gets backlash from it. Just another point to add to the list.

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>>17064547
>tweeting about drug abuse would get your graduated
Even saying it as a joke they would be graduated? Or if they used the wrong word? I really don't think they would be. They would apologize and move on. People are already used to the way Mori speaks so most people don't give a fuck. If everyone pushes her to apologize, then she probably would.
However, in the other post you said if she was in JP she would have already been graduated. What has she done before this that was graduation worthy?
>I also bet not caring about Hololive (5%, missing genmates birthdays, etc) would make them angry.
It would make some people angry. That's about it. Some people WERE angry about it. Most people don't give a fuck now.

[Anonymous No.]

The OP says:
>if they fuck up they shortly after make a public apology and move on
Which they did in that case even if it was unnecessary

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>>17062458
The thing is, Japanese, and to some extent IDs are still not tainted by the filthy western mindset where it's okay to be lazy, slutty, and disgusting slob because yasssss qween slay. You filthy westerners and chinks always ruins everything you touch with your wokeness and thinly veiled superiority complex. You refuse to learn and assimilate to the culture but always try to "change" it because of your superiority complex and your obsessive savior complex. Fuck you and everything you stand for.

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>>17065235
>>17065353

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>>17065276
>Even saying it as a joke they would be graduated? Or if they used the wrong word? I really don't think they would be
You don't understand Japan then. An idol even joking about drug abuse would be grounds for a massive shitstorm. Mori also clearly didn't use the wrong word, she's from Texas, get your head out of your ass.
>What has she done before this that was graduation worthy?
I didn't say she needed to graduate before yesterday. It would still have been nice, but she was mostly insignificant for EN's future up until now.
>It would make some people angry. That's about it. Some people WERE angry about it. Most people don't give a fuck now.
Like "some people" were angry at Aqua's Apex shenanigans? Which no westerner gave a shit about? No JP holo has shown active disdain for the company and their coworkers like Mori has. No JP asked that their first collab should be with, say, MoistCr1TiKaL rather than one of their genmates or senpais.

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>>17065353
you know that western women are never wrong right? Whenever they fucked up, had too many sex which leads to a baby, doesnt care enough to congratulate her genmate's birthday it's never their fault. It's always the world's fault or somehow men's fault.

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>>17065450
>western mindset where it's okay to be lazy, slutty, and disgusting slob
That's not a western mindset but a leftist mindset. That would be like me looking at the most dysgenic side of politics in Japan and calling it the "eastern mindset". It's obviously not the case. Twitter gives those faggots an amplified influence, but they are merely a drop in the bucket compared to China.
>You filthy westerners
You filthy anon! Damn you! I'm so insulted right now!
>You refuse to learn and assimilate to the culture but always try to "change" it
Where did I advocate for changing shit you bitch ass nigger?
>Fuck you and everything you stand for.
This is what I stand for (pic related)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17058072
Ayame at least has the defense of being a longtime member back when Hololive were barely scraping by, ID/EN came in during Hololive's peak yet they have all this shit around them already lol

[Anonymous No.]

Some of the drama from JP has been kind of retarded too, like the janitor jokes or Miko/Marine making fun of a doujin.

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>>17065691
Anonchama... it was a reply to that post >>17065235

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>>17065636
>An idol even joking about drug abuse would be grounds for a massive shitstorm
And yet, look at all the things these so-called perfect "idols" in the JP branch have gotten away with joking about on stream. Hololive is obviously not an "idol agency". Why do you think it's such a common joke about "Yagoo's broken dreams"? Is Marine an "idol"???
I'm not a Mori fan. I just think you don't have the complete picture because you have only seen such a tiny percentage of Japanese content. And the content you have seen has only been the cherry-picked best moments. Who knows, maybe there is a Japanese TT or MoistCritikal
equivalent that you would have no idea about because you have only barely scratched the surface. That's all I'm trying to say, is that you have an incomplete view of things and you place Japan and Japanese people on a pedestal despite not having the full story.

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>>17066197
>Why do you think it's such a common joke about "Yagoo's broken dreams"?
It's common on Reddit.
>Is Marine an "idol"???
Yes.
>maybe there is a Japanese TT
There isn't.
>MoistCritikal
Of course there are normal youtubers in Japan, the point is that you should care about Hololive because you're in Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

This is just a spoonfeeding thread lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17061477
Didn't Kiara already do a JAV with wrestling?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17066268
>It's common on Reddit.
I've only seen it in the YouTube comments.
>the point is that you should care about Hololive because you're in Hololive.
Ogey mein negro

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>>17066449
>I've only seen it in the YouTube comments.
So a meme imported from Reddit.
>Ogey mein negro
If you disagree you're a subversive faggot who wants to open the floodgates to collabs with shitty e-celebs. You're in Hololive, you already made it, now do you fucking job properly.

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>>17066538
I think you outed yourself as a Reddit user.
>If you disagree
Who said I disagree?

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>>17066630
>I think you outed yourself as a Reddit user.
No, you fucking retard, you can do something as simple as watch a single meme review by Coco to tell it's true.
>Who said I disagree?
"ogey" is a dismissive response. You don't care if Hololive crumbles because at least it will cater to your western sensibilities.

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>>17066443
we need more of it

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>>17066775
>watch a single meme review by Coco
I never watched her. Her content didn't interest me.
>"ogey" is a dismissive response
Ogey
>You don't care if Hololive crumbles because at least it will cater to your western sensibilities
How the fuck is it going to crumble? What the fuck are we even talking about anymore? What sensibilities am I imposing on Hololive by arguing with a retard on the internet? I don't do shit, I don't have any social media so what the fuck am I doing to get them to cater to me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17058072
Mental Gymnastics time

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>>17066967
>I never watched her. Her content didn't interest me.
More like you're too new to have watched her. Sure, not liking Coco is fine, but if you didn't know retarded redditor greynames are the ones perpetuating the "yagoo broken dreams" meme then you're too new to be participating in this discussion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17058072
nakiribros..... not again.......

[Anonymous No.]

>>17062125
You really thought cuckbeats was just a meme? After over 1 year?? Cant tell if new or retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>17067145
>More like you're too new to have watched her.
More like it just didn't interest me at the time faggot, and so I just passed and decided not to watch. I started with Miko and just stuck with clips (because why watch someone speak moonrunes for 4 hours). I saw that meme perpetuated in the YouTube comments on clips where a member would do or say something unidol-like, often paired with footage of Yagoo discussing his plans for starting hololive as a new idol company on part with AKB48.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17067586
Anon, you're embarrassing yourself. Stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17067645
Suck a dick false flagging nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>17058072
you appreciate things more when it doesn't outstay it's welcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17067586
>I started with Miko and just stuck with clips (because why watch someone speak moonrunes for 4 hours)
Well of course, welcome to the board

[Anonymous No.]

>>17068013
Miko was before this board was created

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>>17068073
You weren't watching Miko at debut, faggot. You came here last week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17058072
look at all those "s-she doesn't count!" replies

[Anonymous No.]

>>17068114
>You weren't watching Miko at debut
Obviously not, nii-ggaaa!
>You came here last week.
Yes, and the week before that, and the week before that, and the week before that...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17068264
You've already exposed yourself as a cancerous subversive newfag with no grasp of the situation so any damage control is worthless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17058072
YO DA KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>17068307
>You've already exposed yourself
Not yet, I haven't. Are you ready?