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>> No.17029110

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

>> No.17029136
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17029136

I think I found out why Maya Putri suddenly got a lot of subs out of nowhere recently even though the channel has been inactive for a year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKGDyf6lJxs
Mythia Batford went into hiatus a few days ago and told everyone to check out other VTubers too. I guess they all found Maya since it's very likely she's the first result that pops up when you look up Indonesian VTubers.

>> No.17029142

>>17028280
I’m gonna be honest, it legit feels like she’s losing viewers. Like, she’s still the top dog in JP right now so it’s not saying a LOT, but I legitimately don’t know of anyone in Holo who’s currently bleeding viewers as hard as her. You can argue maybe Ame but Ame’s intentionally done stupid shit that’s made her fanbase stop tuning in a lot.

Pekora legit gets lower and lower ccv each stream, often relies on people ending streams as of late to “peak” or climb up, and when she actually does have good numbers she ends up bleeding out hard and loses thousands of viewers over the course of her stream. Maybe it’s more noticeable because she’s at the top but it’s fucking weird to see viewers opt to tune into other streamers over her lately.

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>>17028897
>Mythia's ccv is higher than HoloID
pic realted, 2.5k was the max shes ever gotten, given that her peak was her most recent streams

>> No.17029169

>>17028897
Anon ... From what i see only from her thumbnail and stream title, it's tiktoker tier bad ....

>> No.17029206

>>17029136
>350k hiatus video in 4 days
Damn son, if she goes into HoloID wew

>> No.17029220

>>17029146
1.1k average is pretty good for an ID, that's better than Iofi even

>> No.17029235

>>17028974
Flour = Flare....

>> No.17029247

>>17029142
watch streams

>> No.17029250

>>17028925
Yes, replace the Necrophile with Lui-nee I beg You PeBoT(the former always f'd up the streams in one way or another, be it on the Minecraft Collab' or the Quest Room one while the latter already has a good relationship with Pekora and that would become a great new group of friends [all of them being good at games]). I wonder what would be their name though if that were to happen.

>> No.17029255
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17029255

>>17029142
She's not, you are just still under the "November spell".

Back in August you could set your clock on Pekora 23k, with any variation above that being either a buff game or catching some funnels

>> No.17029265

>>17029235
hurea...
why mk...

>> No.17029329

>>17029169
Yeah we don't need cancerous people like this at Hololive. The girl herself might not be that bad but holy fuck her community is awful. Reminds me of the Filipino guy who has shit stats CCVs but have always 400+ comments on his videos/livestreams.

>> No.17029342

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t78ni3Xq5lw
What's with Holo and Niji's home3D being shit? Why do they still rely on getting an Iphone to track movement into your model? Just a few days ago, someone posted about pose estimates and stuff. I didn't realize how difficult the scope was and these two companies are trying to make it feasible for the upper body.

>> No.17029355

>>17029206
She already on Maha5.

>> No.17029397

Azki and Flare right now are examples of people dropping likes and leaving. Pity likes.

>> No.17029423

>>17029342
They use their own apps that's why

>> No.17029450

What happened to previous thread? It suddenly got archieved

>> No.17029454

>>17029355
I don't believe she went to Maha5. It's the same as HoloX finalists opting out to go to Sony. The only evidence from that rrat is how happy Koyori is in HoloX. She might've been the 6th person, but since one went out for Sony, she got in.

>> No.17029487

>>17029142
Her floor always has been 22 to 24k so she's pretty much at the same point that she used to be before the immensely buffed October/November 2021(December too actually but part of that month was heavily influenced by CCVid).
If anything, her getting the flood she always used to get on that damn shitty game with any interaction with other Holomembers is actually pretty fucking good.
It's been a while since her last real Minecraft stream, so I'd want her to play Minecraft rather than that shitty game.

>> No.17029493

>>17029450
board being real fast right now cause 森 and /#/ has been real slow the last couple of days

>> No.17029495

>>17029454
Anon.. she IS already in Maha5. She was their first member

>> No.17029535

>>17029493
I swear to god we were on page 1 like an hour ago

>> No.17029542

eh we dont even know if Mythia already isn't a fake indie like other cases we've seen (uto, donut, kanon). Leaving an abusive contract might be worth it for her even if she only keeps 10% of the fans. Assuming she could just leave it, of course.

>> No.17029561

>>17029235
oh. oops. I can't keep track of what everyone's pet nicknames are, except twappi.
Just a terrible choice of game when everyone's watching ARK then.

>> No.17029598

>>17029454
>The only evidence from that rrat is how happy Koyori is in HoloX. She might've been the 6th person, but since one went out for Sony, she got in.
God bless whoever quit and gave me my cute pink dog if this is true, blessings for her and I wish her the best in her life.

>> No.17029601

>>17029206
>>17029355
>>17029454
>>17029495
Maya is the one in Maha5 now.
Mythia is the one that retired recently.
You anons are getting it mixed up.

>> No.17029605

>>17029397
Flare overlapping hard with 12 other Holo streams
Can't help it

>> No.17029647

>>17029598
I agree, are you doing her Cover reps too?

>> No.17029709

>>17029647
I must have a few hundred replays on her two older covers but I'm not so sure I'll tolerate more than a single instance of sil vous president, anon...

>> No.17029744

>>17029647
No, they don't sound that good. Koyo is cute though. Me likes

>> No.17029762

>>17029709
We can do it anon. Just leave it at minimum volume. I will do anything to make Pink doggo happy.

>> No.17029781

fubuki finally on another run past roserade, bunch of people have left tho, currently at 16.5k

>> No.17029855

Where did the rrat about one of the original holox chose sony over holo came from?

>> No.17029880

I am awaiting Matsuri revival arc, she promised

>> No.17029907

>>17029855
nowhere really

>> No.17029924

>>17029855
Anon's ass thinking Sony is hot shit + two designs not being used

>> No.17029929

>>17029855
The voices

>> No.17029930

How do we fucken save tanig

>> No.17029961

>>17029601
Huh? Mythia is retired? When?

>> No.17030004

>>17029924
>two designs not being used
as far as i know those were the old kakage and parslay designs, which were replaced by two new ones from the same mamas

>> No.17030048

>>17029855
It started when nijiniggers and seething indiefags were shitposting that cover making that tweet about those two designs being retired means that they couldn't find anyone willing to join them, and that instead they joined up with Sony's vtuber project, which means cover is going to go bankrupt any day now.
So you know, nijicope

>> No.17030055

>>17030004
Yes, and people in /#/ suspected as much since there were many here speculating that gen6 would debut in November sometime after sportsfes,
That didn't stop people baitposting how "hololive couldn't attract new talent, so they had to junk the two models etc".

>> No.17030147

>>17029855
It was revealed to anon in a dream

>> No.17030169

NOT AGAIN
FUBUKIIIII
it was at 19.5k...

>> No.17030174

Jwu, how the fuck pekora sub 30k

>> No.17030210

Nene 5k$ geto
1mil total in march is coming

>> No.17030215

>>17030055
The scrapped designs kind of sucked anyway, there's no way chuuni eyepatch girl would've been as successful as Chloe is

>> No.17030216

Fbk is never gonna beat with lvl 80 king kazama

>> No.17030218

Has the ARK buff started fading out? That was really quick

>> No.17030256

So it is the same rrat as the original mumei bailed and the council debut had to be delayed. Even if it is true, mumei is now the star of council kek.

>> No.17030273

susan has been taking a hatchet to the graphs of Botan and Towa with huge chunks just carved out of them while leaving Lui untouched. The fuck are they doing over there at youtube.

>> No.17030283

>>17030210
She's only $50k off, she's got a good chance of doing it in February at her current pace

>> No.17030311

>>17029961
Just a few days ago. See the video >>17029136

>> No.17030333

>>17029142
The issue with Pekora is that she has a large fanbase but she does practically nothing to expand that base. She is very much a loner. Compare her to Miko and Subaru.

Both Miko and Subaru are very popular as well and their gaming content isn't too dissimilar from Pekora's. However both of them are also collab machines and also spend time organizing and working on unique and interesting project. Hell, Miko organizes the biggest full company collab every year in sports festival.

>> No.17030340

>>17030273
probably obs shitting the bed again

>> No.17030351

>>17029601
>>17029961
>retired
Whoops, meant to say went on hiatus.

>> No.17030394

>>17030283
>at her current pace
yeah thats why i think it will be March. with the fes coming up most holos will be busy doing idol reps and prep work thus streaming less

>> No.17030455
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>>17029880
She's been trying since September.

The newest things she's trying
- entered the Ark ring
- moved non tournament Apex to early morning where there's no competition and a lot of extra NA viewers
- Even more Hololive collabs, as promised - currently with Noel, a little wile back with Suisei and Gen X
- On screen made up with Haachama

The Haachama one being the most important.
They patched things up forever ago off-screen but, since Matsuri isn't part of any Hololive cliques anymore, Haachama might become her rival-partner again. They could do a duet at the Holofest again, so best to build up the on-screen relationship.

Haachama's also been going heavy on Hololive re-integration. A lot of collabs and appearing on the Maruyama show.

>> No.17030494

>>17029855
Cover probably stopped JP applications and had chosen finalists for gen 6 back in June/July, but since Coco got out, some of the finalist probably got restless. At the middle of the month iirc, Sony came out and announce Vee or something. 50 chuubas headlines, funded by sony, in music and in streaming activities and you can keep the model after retiring. The finalists probably want in on that and got out for the sweet Sony sponsorship thinking Niji might've done it with edengumi, Hololive will be reclining for then onwards and the new future big vtuber company will be Sony. Little did they know, they didn't learn from Luna's mistakes. Now, they're probably drinking Sake or something, watching Iroha playing Minecraft with 15k ccv and throwing the empty bottle of sake to the monitor screaming, "That should've been me. Oh shit, I forgot I needed to stream to 100 viewers again today."

>> No.17030537

>>17030174
This is normal numbers for Pekora anon. Her highs in November have warped your memory of how she'd usually get 22-24k for many of her streams.

>> No.17030626

>>17030256
yes

>> No.17030634

>>17030455
Honestly, what she needs is a collab with aqua in apex, also she gets decent numbers on apex if not overlap to hell with others.

>> No.17030661

>>17030273
Both towa and Botan had massive lag spikes and buffering, so yeah alot of viewers jumped over to Lui

>> No.17030665

>>17030494
If i remember what Chloe and Koyo said, they were already selected since back in January 2021. Usually it took ~7 months for Gen 4, 5 and Myth to debut, so the July - Aug would have made sense.
Add over it some unforeseen delays over summer and needing to debut 6 EN members and we get late 2022 for Gen6 debut.
Anon's restless applicant's theory made sense at the time. Though, we don't know what really went on behind the scenes, so the "2 of them rejected Holo X" theory is just that.

>> No.17030679

>>17030256
How the fuck would that even work? Would she have been brought in to fill the vacancy, or was she already hired and got shifted around? She’s probably the most obvious choice of the girls they picked.

>> No.17030707

>>17030661
except lui didnt get any jumps up

>> No.17030731

>>17030494
Sony probably gives them a decent pay but hololive has a much higher ceiling for earnings.

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>>17030731
>Sony probably gives them a decent pay

>> No.17030799

>>17030731
Koyori sips on that sweet $20k from one day

>> No.17030832

>>17030494
I remember the extension to this rrat which is Suisei Marine and Pekora jumping ship to join Sony.
Well...
>HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

>> No.17030881

>>17030494
This is some nice creative writing but if you actually believe this you should probably take your meds. It's obvious watching the Versen girls that none of them are seasoned streamers and while I could see Uno or Itsuki succeeding somewhere bigger with some more experience under their belt there's no way in hell any were selected for holoX over the high-spec experienced streamers that they got.

>> No.17030900

Just realized Baelz streaming at 3am JST. Pretty weird timeslot for her since she lives in Australia iirc. Then another stream a few hours after that. Is she believing in herself now?

>> No.17030908

When will Holos start playing Yu-gi-oh?
Chaika got 9.6k playing that shit

>> No.17030929

Chaika 10k get again
>10,024 watching now
He keeps inclining close to 10k whenever he dramatically summons a "Bulu Aizu", then settles down at around 9k.

He's even calling Slifer "Bulu Aizu" for the meme.

>> No.17030938

>>17030908
They don't want to promote a Konami game for free. Give them blanket permissions, and they'll do it. If they only got yugioh perms, then that's not enough weight in the negotiation.

>> No.17030951

>>17030537
No, it's offpako effect. She used to get 30k in every MC stream

>> No.17030968

oh shit fbk is past lucario

>> No.17030979

>>17030900
Who is the target audience? Extremely weird timing from Bae.

>> No.17030995

>>17030951
Would you mind showing me her last Minecraft stream(which is her best buffed game), you Zhang? I thought you had necked yourself since she got her 5th gold medal of the month.

>> No.17030999

>>17030881
Versen and Vee are different. Holo ex-finalist probably went to their streaming division. Versen is just testing the waters.

>> No.17031009

>>17030908
Subaru mentioned it but i don't know if they have perms or not.

>> No.17031017

>oniya has more numbers than most of holomem


holy fucking gosh...

>> No.17031089

>>17030999
>Versen is just testing the waters.
they spent a shitload on those animations. Versen was part of their main plan and it flopped.

>> No.17031093

>>17030979
>>17030900
>3am JST
That translates to almost EU prime time which... is practically dead hours.

EUs don't watch streams at that hour, they're still commuting from work or out on the town. They do watch Watame and Ina's chill streams 2-3 hours later to end the day though.

>> No.17031140

friend at 20k again
she's at milotic

>> No.17031177

>>17030215
Can you post them, please? I know Chloe's design is number fuel but I'm curious to compare Lui's design to the scrapped kakage one.

>> No.17031221

>>17030929
Can Holo even get the fucking yu-gi-oh perms?
I am tired of Cover incompetence.

>> No.17031250

>>17031089
Their plan honestly made no sense.

They spend a lot of money on "world building" PV and some ads, but just let the girls do whatever generic vtuber stuff on stream, with no actual group direction.

The girls themselves tried to do some team building with the Getting over it competition but it had nothing to do with the "Verse" project idea.

It's just a very disjointed project. Like they just brought in some marketing people that know how to promote anime but had no idea how to handle vtubers on the other side.

>> No.17031254

>>17030634
>Collab with Aqua
Good luck on that one.

>> No.17031295
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17031295

It took him 15min to reach his pre-chat numbers. This stream should have been an easy 2.7k without CCVID.

>> No.17031342

>>17031295
Please stop, this is just depressing.

>> No.17031345

>>17029762
Best thing you can do is try and get other people to do reps as you can only add so many in a day by yourself. I tried similar with Watame.

>> No.17031359

>>17029342
You don't want people to bring their Xsens motion tracking suit back home.

>> No.17031375

>>17031295
hes definitely infected, i dont know about your arbitrary numbers though

>> No.17031376

>>17031017
???????

>> No.17031391

>>17031254
Suzy managed to get one. If she dangles her idol skills, I'm sure Aqua will bite. Bring Nenechi and it could work

>> No.17031397

>>17031221
It's the Konami being in bed with Sony, being in bed with Nijisanji dilemma.

Plus the extra problem of Hololive and Bushiroad card collab also being in direct competition with Konami's market.
Permissions from the competitors get hard to get then, especially this early.

It would be very funny though if they get it 3 months from now and a Laplus vs Pekora match has combined 100k viewers.

>> No.17031408

>>17031295
>aruran
>getting 3k

Pick one

>> No.17031433

>>17031295
Holostars still have 30-50% Kaigai audience. They were already affected by the 2020 cull more than the JP girls, and now this?

>> No.17031447

foobs at 22k
this milotic fight is taking forever
don't think she'll beat garchomp, but this run might be her peak for today considering the time

>> No.17031456

>>17030218
Still seems like a player dependent buff. Nousagis just don't seem more interested in compared to anything else or the people that are really interested in ARK were already a large chunk of her normal viewers.

>> No.17031468

>>17031295
I believe in Arupapa, let him Collab' with a JP member(because I know him of all people wouldn't do anything to a girl from the JP branch). Pekora would be perfect but she's way too autistic to even bother talking to a male.

>> No.17031511

>>17031468
Which he did in Matsuri, and actually getting 3k iirc.
That led to nothing.

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ohnononono

>> No.17031523

>>17030979
This is very weird especially if you look at Bae's demographics. People expect Kiara to stream at this time, but Bae doesn't really have a lot of EU fans. This timezone is pretty trash for NA/KR/JP. It's even hard for Bae's own timezone since its a 5AM stream. I respect her for trying out new things especially given the state of HoloEN. I just don't think this is the correct play to make in the long run. I would much rather have Bae apply pressure in the 7PM EST/9AM JST timeslot

>> No.17031546

>>17030455
Honestly I'm not sure what she can do. She built up a very particular image for herself and just doesn't do anything really interesting to drag viewers in.

>> No.17031575
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>>17030908
no
someone asked konami the guidelines and actually nobody have permissions as of now
all the stream or video out there are in the grey zone, it's just konami never take any video down all these years
rather it's the official game or fan made illegal ADS
even it's 99.99% safe cover won't let the girls play that

>> No.17031654

FUBUKI 24K
SHE DID IT

>> No.17031658

>>17031575
basically Nijisanji is of the "beg for forgiveness later" type whereas hololive is the "cover your ass fully before streaming" type

>> No.17031673

>>17031575
They sure bothered taking down clips of that stream at that point last year.
https://youtu.be/WyhmRJj_GP4
I don't understand how Cucknami works honestly.

>> No.17031681
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silver medal for silver fox

>> No.17031690

>>17031468
People keep begging for this, but Hololive just doesn't have a base that is interested in them.

>> No.17031703

>>17031250
>It's just a very disjointed project. Like they just brought in some marketing people that know how to promote anime but had no idea how to handle vtubers on the other side.
That's probably exactly what happened

>> No.17031709

>>17031254
Kek i know, aqua is my oshi. The problem with aqua is she will only invite holo mem who she is familiar with for collabs. You need to approach her yourself for collabs. I remembered matsuri saying she is afraid to approach aqua when people asked her about apex collab before.

>> No.17031720

no fubuki... you were supposed to let the numbers build up across a couple more days

>> No.17031728

>>17031468
He did with Matsuri and all that led to was Matsuri farming clips by being yabai and Aruran dodging her shit anyway he could

>> No.17031751

>>17030900
She basically slept through the day due to a stomach ache, I'm pretty sure this is more a result of her sleep being kinda messy and rather than waste it, she's gonna stream something.

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>>17031408
For a regular stream, no, but you'd be surprised.
He's forming a Niji click for himself right now.

>> No.17031809

Fuck why didn\'t you all tell me FBK passed garchomp and won. I was muted all the way with coldplay on while studying.

>> No.17031813

>>17031391
I doubt it. Someone as autistic as Aqua won't want to deal with Matsuri. Suisei at least isn't a fucking menhera.

>> No.17031821

>>17031728
>>17031511
Za Hando already happened at that moment so of course Maturity was far from being a good choice for that. At least pick Marine or Miko for that.

>> No.17031831

>>17031673
If i remembered correctly, holo members already told people not to clip momotaro densetsu streams.

>> No.17031862

>>17031397
>It's the Konami being in bed with Sony, being in bed with Nijisanji dilemma.
No excuse,Nijisanji is in bed with Sony,but they still played Halo Infinite.
Cover just wants to play safe after taiwan yab,its necessary but they overdid it ,and hurting their CCVs.

>> No.17031881

>>17031546
Not sure either. Matsuri is one of the people that dragged me in to watching Hololive 2 years ago but I feel like her content took a nosedive during the Apex arc. Ever since then she has been struggling to get her footing back and the mini yabs with Luna/Haachama/Za Hando weren't helping either. I often forget that Matsuri has over 1m subs given her ccv compared to the other girls with 1m+

>> No.17031886

>>17031391
Nene,Aqua,Matsuri could be a fun apex colab but Aqua is still to afraid of Nenechi for now

>> No.17031889

>>17031821
She has like 6 times his average peak, still a lot.
You can forget about those who don't usually collabs with the stars though, it's a fruitless effort.

>> No.17031893

Good job Fubuki

>> No.17031896

>>17031673
because they already said clearly no clipping of that video
of course they got taken down

>> No.17031918

>>17031575
That's been the type of grey zone NijiEN management hasn't been willing to cross either.

Have any of them played, or spoke about playing it?

>> No.17031929

Wamy 10K get. Blue Koyori lets go!

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17031942

Gentlemen, I present to you: how to commit channel suicide

Now that Kanauru faggot on the other hand, he's smart. He adds the nijis in the hololive shit so you're forced to watch them.

>> No.17031949

wamy 10k ark

>> No.17031951

>>17031575
Nijisanji already has permissions. Aren't they under the same company as Konami or something? Even works inside the same building.

>> No.17031957

>>17031886
Do Aqua, Matsuri, and Ayame instead. Just to see how mad the dramaposters get

>> No.17031975

>>17031896
>>17031831
I didn't remember that, my mistake.

>> No.17031980

>>17031468
>let him
The women are allowed to collab with whoever the fuck they want. They just don't want to. Some of them don't want to because of numbers related reasons (fear of losing numbers, stars being such giga midges collabing with them brings new numbers etc). So the numbers thread should understand, no? You're not all just homobeggars?

>> No.17031990

>>17031862
>Looks at several 10k streams earlier
Only a very small amount of Holos like card games anon. Laplus would rather play Shadowverse

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Friend's pokemon arc is finally over, and it was amazing for her numbers. Now it's time for her ARK ARC.

>> No.17032008

Is lamy a virgin unlike mori

>> No.17032024

>>17031998
nope its just in time for her PLA arc

>> No.17032039

>>17031942
>he bought the slow and steady meme

>> No.17032043

>>17031942
oof

>> No.17032045

>>17031918
Outside of Japan, yugioh card game isn't popular thus, there's less of a chance that nijiEN members played card games physically before. Pretty sure all who played them outside would be called nerd/geeks etc while in Japan, it's a bit okayish. Culture is different.

>> No.17032068

>>17031862
Halo is microsoft no?

>> No.17032074

>>17031957
>a evening of Matsuri trying to molest both culminates in Aqua snapping and calling both useless whores that are slowing her down
kino/10 guaranteed numbers

>> No.17032081

>>17031942
what if he's getting paid directly by Niji? could be a better deal than Youtube

>> No.17032084

>>17032008
Her father will chop off the dicks of any male approaching Lamy.

>> No.17032103

>>17031980
>b-but the girls will incline too from the male interactions! It won't affect their numbers! I swear I consulted my magical eight ball three times lined up the stars in the sky and confirmed it from my local priest and oracle!

>> No.17032125

>>17032074
I would watch

>> No.17032133

>>17031709
Whats the chance of a non forced Aqua collab with an EN? She played Apex with Ame offline a while back and she seems to still keep contact with the EN side of Umisea.

>> No.17032142

>>17031942
I wonder if it's truly worth the time wasted for both the Livers and the guy making the animation, it must only appeal to the fans of the livers who get an animation, whereas the Hololive ones can appeal to anybody outside of the community.

>> No.17032175

>>17032081
I'd rather take those delicious yt ad money

>> No.17032186

>>17031942
Already unfollowed him, walfie and betanon

>> No.17032190

>>17031881
She was never really good at drawing a big audience, but when you you shift your content a lot of people will just leave and not come back. Best thing I think she can do is stick to a variety of content, keep grinding collabs, and hope people find interest in clipping her.

>> No.17032224

>>17032045
>Outside of Japan, yugioh card game isn't popular
What? Are you sure about that?
Among the actually "played" trading card games (not "collected") it's by far the most played in both EU and NA.

As much as Magic the Gathering has more ""prestige"" in NA, i see YGO having way more players overall, even if it cycles most of them yearly.
Will need to find numbers to back this up though.

>> No.17032258

>>17032081
I'd rather take consistent money from YT than hoping Nijis don't get tired of paying for animations that are only getting <10k views.

>> No.17032261

>>17032103
It's honestly fucking hilarious to read homostar delusions.
>Uh this Homo can have Pekora collabs to incline, and this one will have Aqua, and naturally this one has a larger EOP audience so he can have Gura

>> No.17032263

>>17032133
she almost did a Minecraft tour with Kiara right? I'm pretty sure

>> No.17032268

>>17032133
No chance unless en or even id invite her for collab or may be management mandated collab like umisea.

>> No.17032323

what was>>17000000 >>16999999

>> No.17032334

>>17031990
NijiEN has been spamming games which HoloEN couldnt play.
They noticed it ,and wont stop it untill HoloEN disband.

>> No.17032341

>>17032263
Aqua got sick and it has been months since the server visit arc.

>> No.17032368

>>17032045
EU.yugioh was the only card game played at my school back in the day. which admittedly was like 16 years ago

>> No.17032375

>>17031942
>so you are forced to watch kanauru
lol nope i already dropped him

>> No.17032376

>>17031998
You’re going to watch PLA and like it anon

>> No.17032395
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>>17032103 >>17031980
>>17032261

I'm not a Homobeggar retards, I was just thinking it would be truly kino if one of these boys were to Collab with a top tier JP girl.
Also I only approve Arupapa since he's the most dedicated by far at streaming at Hololive and he's quite funny, nothing else.

>> No.17032432

>>17032395
Stop begging, go back to your containment thread.

>> No.17032434

>>17032395
>im not a homobeggar
sure bud

>> No.17032439
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17032439

>>17032323
>>17000000
AVE MUMEI
the true princess of 4chan!

>> No.17032516

>>17032395
Either way it'll not make any top tier Holo interested in such a collab anytime soon.

>> No.17032520

>>17032395
>I was just thinking it would be truly kin-
This is the numbers thread, rephrase in terms of numbers for both parties or GTFO

>> No.17032549

>>17032142
>only appeal to the fans of the livers
What are these conclusions based on? Animation can be liked by anyone who sees it.
Artists often do what they like, maybe he's happy with the attention he's getting from nijisanji.

>> No.17032568

>>17032395
>I'm not a hombeggar but explicitly I want the top tier holos so my midgets incline
sure thing, that's why you don't want mid to low tier holo collabs, because the more subs and views a holo has the more 'kino" a collab will be, right?

>> No.17032572
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Luna surely found her stride as a proper gamer oriented chuuba. Good numbers for this type of stream

>> No.17032586

W-what is PLA?

>> No.17032670
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17032670

Two things
1) kek, the girls surely debuff the boys
2) that chart has 100% H̶͖̩̖͖̘͎̯̤͓̭̐͗́̌͂͌̓̋͛̀̐͒͝͠͝ͅĘ̷̯̝̊̊̽͑̄̀̽͗͘̚ ̸̻͈̩̰̯̰̘̳̱̩̆͆̔̂͂͋̒̋̐̌C̵̤̤̭̹͓̾͊͑̈́͒̾͆̌̄̾̿̋͝O̸̡͈̭̦̮͉̦̖͚̣̮̍̀̒͋̒̏͂̽̔̈̚M̸̰̱̼̘̀̈́̀̎͂Ȩ̸̨̦̺͕̺̖̯̐̊̀́̓̓̆͐͆͒̚̚S̷̝̍̒͐̓̓̐͛͊͌̃͛̚ energy

>> No.17032683

>>17032586
Please llike and (subscribe)

>> No.17032684

>>17032586
Pokemon Legend of Arceus

>> No.17032715

>>17032395
Aruran is hell for numbers because after every collab, he spams boring shit like Minecraft and ARK or continues a playthrough he already started

>> No.17032766

>>17032684
Honestly the game looks so incredibly shit it'll lose buff game status in like 3 days after release.

>> No.17032774

>>17032586
People's Liberation Army

>> No.17032780

>>17032045
I agree the popularity peak of YGO has passed 10+ years ago, but it was so popular at that time mostly in the west. then you can see lot of people are coming back to YGO with Master Duel.

>> No.17032807

man, doing my reps on the koyo cover and i got in my recommended a cover from an indie that doesn't even have 1k after an entire day, and it kinda put things in perspective a bit

>> No.17032845

>>17032807
correction, not indie but small corpo

>> No.17032914
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No 10k for panda

>> No.17032928
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17032928

Seems very popular for me

>> No.17032977

>>17032914
10k is for grownups?

>> No.17032981

>>17032914
Grown up anon? You'll just jinx it.

>> No.17032986

>>17032928
Yea. The FTP model and being the first 'proper' full yu-gi-oh game (that's free) has a lot of people giving it a shot, either for nostalgia's sake or because it's easier for people to play online than in person given a bunch of stores still won't allow in-person gameplay due to social-distancing restrictions in leafland and some areas in burgerland.

>> No.17033000

Surprising no one does asmr atm, it's 12 AM in JP and a lot of people already got tired watching streams.

>> No.17033010

>>17032928
This will only do well for holo at 1st stream or when they actually know the game. If they suck at the game the numbers will also suck.

>> No.17033028

>>17032807
We can't save everyone anon, all we can do now is make Koyori happy. All her happy tweets each time she hits each 100k mark cures depression.

>> No.17033030

>>17032928
Well,Holo should stream this game.

>> No.17033056

>>17033030
Other than Laplus and Shion (hiatus), who else like playing card game?

>> No.17033087

>>17033056
Subaru

>> No.17033097
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17033097

The Custom Collaboration really did great on his numbers. Too bad he doesn't get nearly half as much on his next stream...
Gold deserved though, we need some competition or it wouldn't be funny to numberfag.

>> No.17033111

>>17033056
Mori

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBwL5S9Jqs8
This animated short has legs

>> No.17033136

>>17033056
Pegors did play god field before and also like yugioh but i honestly doubt she'll know how to play the game.

>> No.17033137 [DELETED] 

>>17033010
They need more buff games besides MC ARK and Pokemon.

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This graph is hilarious, it has a bit of everything.

>> No.17033210

>>17033137
Sounds like Apex to me and not Yugioh

>> No.17033242

I don't get recommended the Namibia stream anymore but rather get that one instead, would that be a good stream to notice the development of the CCVid or not?

>> No.17033244

>>17033183
it's almost like a cityscape...

>> No.17033246

Other streams ended, Peko, Luna and Lamy all inclining a bit

>> No.17033280

>>17033242(me)
Lmao...
https://youtu.be/SrKkGqkQG6M

>> No.17033329
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>Pretty popular vtuber
>No membership
>Very rarely uses SC
>Almost never streams
When I see nijisanji vtubers like this, I always wonder why the managers let them do all this.
They're missing out on a lot of numbers by giving workers a lot of freedom and doing premieres instead of streams.

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Sasaki inclining

>> No.17033403

>>17033210
>Sounds like Apex to me and not Yugioh
Aqua Towa Matsuri
but others....

>> No.17033440

>>17033329
Simply put, for many livers it's a side gig or something they do for fun. Come on now, this is pretty common knowledge for Nijisanji that you don't even need to watch streams to hear about.

>> No.17033465

>>17033440
lol its only a side gig because they cant make much money from it

>> No.17033470

>>17029250
I don't see that group changing member anytime soon. They are basically Usaken Lite, there's a pretty strong bond between them no matter what you think
Also it's ultimately depend on if Lui get Pekora's approval because the other 2 are comfortable with just about anyone. It seem no matter what Pekora is still the boss huh?

>> No.17033475

>>17033440
>this is pretty common knowledge
Nijisanji wont hire soneone like that anymore.

>> No.17033544

>>17030055
I knew gen 6 was coming ever since Kakage stopped "pretending" to seethe on twitter about not being a holo-mama yet.

>> No.17033591

>Pekora still holding 20k viewer hostage for 3 hour straight
Welp I don't think anyone should be worried about her. She still doing good

>> No.17033598

>>17033475
>Nijisanji wont hire soneone like that anymore.
Even the wave of 2020 has similar vtubers.

>> No.17033630

>>17033280
it doesn't have chat enabled, so no

>> No.17033639

>>17033329
Mayuzumi has depression and is on break until February

>> No.17033648

>>17033598
>Even the wave of 2020 has similar vtubers.
Not Eden and NijiEN

>> No.17033774

>>17033648
>Not Eden
There are too few of them.
Oliver also took a lot of days off early in his career and decided very late to turn on the membership.
>NijiEN
This branch works by different rules

>> No.17033874

>>17033000
Anon, your Patra reps?

>> No.17034013

>>17030665
It wouldn't suprise me if La+ was selected some time in Febuary. 60% of HoloX was waiting for almost a year, probably an agonizing year.

I don't think anyone would be dumb enough to pick Sony over fucking Hololive.

>> No.17034067

>>17033874
Thanks for reminding me. I am currently looking at her boobs, the lines kind of look awkward? And is the left boob larger or is it just the camera angle?

>> No.17034072

If Sony did steal a HoloX member would they be having a massive menhera attack seeing ample SCs/view/members HoloX are getting.

>> No.17034130

>>17034013
She did quit from Re:AcT then but I doubt she would've spent almost all of 2021 streaming on Bilibili as her roommate if she knew she was joining Holo

>> No.17034141

>>17033475
I agree, they won't do that anymore, but many of the 2020 and before livers are still like that.

>> No.17034468

>>17034072
>obtain a golden ticket, its existence confirmed legit by the very universe itself
>it says "SUCCESS!!!" in massive bold red text
>throw it away because a shady lad in an alleyway with the words "I FUCKED MY SUBORDINATES UP BEFORE", also in bold red text, offers you *possible* fame and glory with barely anything backing it
I sure hope they are.

>> No.17034532

>>17031512
is this from Millie's bday week anonchama? kek

>> No.17034596

>>17034468
At the time, Hololive looked pretty weak after Coco left and Nijisanji gaining traction due to edengumi and koshien. Sony announcement was before it iirc. Irys was Irys and for EN.

>> No.17034639

Let's do numbers, numberbros
How many of Sony's 50 vtuber project will end up being a 1 view and how many of them will commit suicide?

>> No.17034670

>>17034639
Only the ones who jumped from HoloX

>imagine not getting $100k in a month

>> No.17034673

Yeah sorry for hijacking a thread, I don't like making my own threads.
Who has the most impressive vtuber set up out of them all? Just curious to see if there's any improvement at all from what I remember like 2 years ago.

>> No.17034680

>>17034639
I'll kneel if they get someone 1view

>> No.17034701

>>17034013
Laplus graduated on February and Chloe graduated on August. HoloX's channel were created on September.

>> No.17034719

>>17034673
>Who has the most impressive vtuber set up out of them all?
That's is not even a proper question. Patra has the most impressive vtuber ASMR setup but that surely is not what you are asking

>> No.17034746

>>17034673
Define "vtuber set up", if you mean "looks the best technically" then that's still Kizuna Ai.
Of course Kizuna Ai can't stream from her house and needs to go to a recording studio for everything so

>> No.17034760

>>17034673
Not Mori, $1M was used for condom money

>> No.17034771

>>17034719
>>17034746
Yeah, I'm not entirely sure how to construct my question since I don't know the terminology for vtubing.
I suppose modelling and rig? Just what we see on screen.

>> No.17034778

So Kiara's schedule confirms they have Pokemon Arceus permission. FBKing first stream numbers?

>> No.17034784

>>17034673
probably some chink from bilibili, i've heard they have some good shit there

>> No.17034840

>>17034784
lol no

>> No.17034856

>>17034778
>So Kiara's schedule confirms they have Pokemon Arceus permission. FBKing first stream numbers?
25K

>> No.17034884

>>17034778
Not as much as Pekora's, that's for sure. Pekora shilled that game quite a bit a few weeks ago, Wondering if they could get permission from that game specifically.
Though if Fubuki does a similar run that she used to do with The last one, she might get a constant 45+k depending on if the game is much better than all of the previous games.

>> No.17034911

>>17034771
kson got a very good base model plus a nice rig for her new vtuber persona but that clearly enters the land of "diminishing returns" as anything above Nijisanji 1.0 "cardboard cutout" does not give the wearer any competitive differential.

>> No.17034951

>>17034701
Koyori graduated in the same week as Chloe's PL, in retrospect I should've realised something was going on then since I was aware of both graduations at the time but the other 3 were all streaming on non-vtuber accounts at that point, if there was a third sudden indie graduation at the end of August it would've been kind of obvious there was a new generation happening.

>> No.17034975

Man, I haven't seen any news from nijiKR, VR or ID? What happened to them? This place got drowned out by Luxiem for a month.

>> No.17035012

>>17034975
Why would they be in /#/ of all places?

>> No.17035074

>>17031942
why did he stop making hololive content?
ame rejected him or something

>> No.17035091

>>17034975
The last time NijiKR appear here is for Bora graduation stream.
I don't know what happened with NijiKR/ID/VR after that.

>> No.17035139

>>17034975
ID and KR are both chugging along, KR might be getting a boost recently but that just puts them in the 2-400 viewers range.

VR is still a dumpster fire but it doesn't look like it's going to keel over jsut yet.

>> No.17035188

>>17034911
>anything above Nijisanji 1.0 "cardboard cutout" does not give the wearer any competitive differential.
Good visuals don't affect numbers long term. Visuals only give short-term attention boosts. Its what you do with that attention that's more important.

Outfit reveals should be treated like a mini-reboots but most people(especially small corpos and 2views) squander it

>> No.17035322

>>17035188
Mini-reboots is the right word. Outfit reveals 2 times a year is enough. A one time 3D debut is a huge buff. Anniversary and Birthdays are also celebratory events. If anything, what a vtuber needs to keep going for a long time is a base skill in any genre of games. Popular ones are FPS, because new games keeps popping up every year. Strategy vtubers is a niche. Same goes for platformers. Moba is hard to get popularized by a vtuber if they're shit at the game, but if they're good, people would watch them as all FPS fans do.

>> No.17035330

>>17035188
As someone who dumpster dives indies on occasion I have to say that tons of people who struggle to get 30 views have models and rigging far beyond Cover/Anycolor. Brand name means a lot and most of the big indies have been at it for a while.

>> No.17035389

16k Patra ASMR... home...

>> No.17035454

>>17035389
mama...

>> No.17035662

Again, where are the new Vshojo members?

>> No.17035702

>>17035662
One of Mouse's friend is trying hard to get in now.

>> No.17035752

>>17035662
no time for new members while sucking male streamer cock

>> No.17035753

>>17035702
Yes yes and so is kanata's friend

>> No.17035817

>>17035753
Looks like Vshojo is opening a JP branch with both of them thinking about streaming on twitch recently.

>> No.17035831

>>17035330
>Brand name means a lot
The small guys don't know about brand building. Many aren't even aware that it's even a skill that can be learned.

>> No.17035894

>>17035074
He got scammed by myth, no payment received from Myth or Treat. HoloEN bankrupt

>> No.17035924

KEK, I was right. Pink Dog just celebrated 100k views on her cover. I love her so much as a numberfag.

>> No.17035989

Gura Ark VOD is almost at 600K.
I think it's the highest Ark VOD in hololive or do I miss someone ?

>> No.17036001

>>17035662
Do they even talk about it anymore?

>> No.17036053

>>17035817
>Mori's alt account straight up tweeted on the same day she annunced her break that she will release new songs and even has a personal manager now
>Kson wants to stream on Twitch
>Mori wants to stream on twitch
>All hints aims to Mori leaving Hololive
>Both are in Japan rn
Boy...if Vshojo opens a JP branch with the people I'm thinking of then may the jannies drink galons of coffe to handle the shitstorm on this board.

>> No.17036205
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>41,741: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>24,036: Fubuki (Hololive)
>23,858: Ayame (Hololive)
>23,748: Pekora (Hololive)
>20,069: Gura (Hololive)
>16,490: Rushia (Hololive)
>15,577: Kuzuha (Hololive)
>14,920: Iroha (Hololive)
>13,983: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,743: Mio (Hololive)
>13,354: Botan (Hololive)
>12,933: Mito (Nijisanji)
>12,785: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,314: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>11,657: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,350: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,986: Mio (Hololive)
>10,835: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,335: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>10,303: Nene (Hololive)

>> No.17036227

>>17036053
Maybe they should hire more people and offer overtime pay.

>> No.17036231

>>17036053
Mori graduation when?
Did EN management allow this shitshow?

>> No.17036237

>>17036205
Pekor, you got denied the bronze medal...

>> No.17036319

>>17036205
Despite King finally getting a gold, it's a 9-1 sweep for the top 10.
A small price to pay for salvation?

>> No.17036322

>>17036205
Holo is reclining...
New perms when?

>> No.17036327

>>17036205
>>15,577: Kuzuha (Hololive)

>> No.17036343

>>17036053
what do you get if you join vshoujo?

>> No.17036347
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her fans are just waiting for the video version, right...
maybe she needs the tiktok JKs...

>> No.17036357

>>17036205
KEK Kuzuha Hololive

>> No.17036359

>>17036319
>a 9-1 sweep for the top 10.
15,577: Kuzuha (Hololive)

>> No.17036360

>>17036205
The King is back, what now NijiEN fags? Vox? Mysta? kek

>> No.17036365

>>17036327
Wait, what? kek, disregard that, you guys know what company the king belongs

>> No.17036407

>>17036343
unlimited supply of connor cuck

>> No.17036414

>>17036343
You gain Creative Freedom.

>> No.17036431
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>>17036205

>> No.17036455

>>17036343
dox

>> No.17036470

>>17036053
As someone who doesn't care in the least about EN anything and kson after she left hololive I'm really dreading that scenario. Even /hlg/ would be a mess. This thread and some JP generals would be the only places that are safe but they'd get pushed right into the archive soon.

>> No.17036485

>>17036414
creative freedom like a milking bait stream

>> No.17036528

>>17036485
Creative freedom is often pearls before swine because let's face it, there aren't that many creative people around.

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>> No.17036546

>>17036343
More Dick Jokes
And Being Connor Condom

>> No.17036563

>>17036053
she was planning on that long before the yab, retard, even a tour. Fuck off with your rrats.

>> No.17036590

>>17036563
Give your perpsective of Calli current predicament. Is she thinking straight or she drank one too many glasses of wine and fucked up?

>> No.17036593

>>17036470
don't worry, her SCs are like 95% JPs. If she joins Vshofags, she'll go bye bye with those weeb SCs. Not taking into account that she said during Coco graduation month that she does not plan to join any other company other than Holofag. She'll be treated like a traitor if she goes that route.

>> No.17036607

>>17035662
All the prospective hires got doxxed and swatted so now gunrun is busy trying to pay off everyone involved.

>> No.17036610

>>17036053
why would mori be in the jp branch and not the normal, also you're as retarded as mori if you think shes graduating over this.

also, why would kson bother joining when she can already collab with who she wants to and can already get sponsorships. snuffy and the elk aren't going to be joining vshojo the same way kson won't be

>> No.17036630

>>17036347
It completely slipped my mind that it was even released. I just heard it and was expecting to hear it on her concert.

>> No.17036634
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KING

>> No.17036680

>>17036610
what if vshojo offers her no cut, just a brand name tied to her name. That's a win-win for both, oh nyo holobronies

>> No.17036769

>>17036680
like i said shes already able to get sponsors/collabs as seen by her recent one
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1484512076584210436
so she wouldn't gain anything from being associated with a brand.

>> No.17036772

Enschizo is justr trying a different appraoch now huh. except for the always samefagging part

>> No.17036793

>>17036593
Naw, her paypigs will follow her to twitch as far as kson goes. I wouldn't care if Mori became the biggest rapper since Tupac or a complete burnout or anything in between save for the impact on board integrity.

I wouldn't treat Coco as a traitor since things for her didn't work out in hololive and it's not like she didn't try. I would just feel bad things didn't work out rather than be mad at the person who got screwed.

>> No.17036816
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17036816

TWITCH/VSHOJO SCHIZO WARNING

>> No.17036821

>>17036772
Seems like they're back now that the someone finally did their job and cleaned up the 10+ bait threads, leaving only 1-2 up.

>> No.17036841

>>17029142
>Pekora legit gets lower and lower ccv each stream
You probably talking about the last ark stream one and this one
>26k ( pekosuba )
>23k ( trying to do the same thing again and again)
You tell me why she got better peak


>often relies on people ending streams as of late to “peak” or climb up
I will assume you're talking about her dq8 streams, first, there's something called boss in the game which is a buff (she usually go against them in the end of her streams) , second, her last stream was against dhoulmagus one of the hardest bosses in dq series that's why she got her peak not because aqua or Subaru or miko.
Pls watch the streams or ask someone before writing this dumb shit

>> No.17036893

>>17036343
More Numbers
More Money
More influence
You get to keep your IP

>> No.17036894

This reads like "Suisei is DEFINITELY leaving Hololive for Sony" again but with Mori and Kson.
Where's the creativity in your bait?

>> No.17036911
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17036911

>>17031177
Chloe's final design is vastly superior than the eyepatch one but Lui really got the short end of the stick on the design lottery. I don't know why Cuckage and Cover didn't just use or at least slightly tweak the left's design because what we actually got was objectively worse at executing the bird motif in her design. First impressions are important in establishing a chuuba's career and a good design contributes at least 50% to a chuuba's success and Lui got fucked over backwards in this regard.

>> No.17036947

>>17036205
Nijisanji 7
Hololive 13

A good day for Nijisanji since they got a completely uncontested gold and still filled out the non top ten rankings. Hololive getting an 8-2 split and some lesser medals seems like a dropoff.

>> No.17036983

>>17036911
I actually the design on the right. Left one looks like a tranny dressed up for carnival.

>> No.17037006

>>17036911
The left is too magic and sorcery. Remember, Lui is supposed to be a clerk, that headdress is awful.

>> No.17037018

>>17036983 (me)
i actually prefer the design on the right

>> No.17037038
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17037038

>>17036983
Think you got stockholm syndrome there buddy.

>> No.17037048

>>17036821
When there is drama /#/ threads are at peace, when drama dies down we get invaded by non-regular schizos.

>> No.17037071

>>17036053
>Kson can do whatever she wants now and Calli clearly can't fit into Hololive.
As long as HoloJP not getting dragged into this, I think this should be fine. They would be happy with Vshojo.
Anyway Cover should looking for someone who really want to be idol, love Hololive and love streaming for HoloEN 3.

>> No.17037094
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17037094

>>17036205
Kuzuha win? Sanya win.

>> No.17037117

>>17037006
He could've kept the hair and incorporate the birdlike feature anywhere else on her clothes but nope. You got chicken wings for hair.

>> No.17037168

>>17037038
When does IRyS have a menhera attack about being ugly? I unironically think she'd be a numbers monster and an EN rock if she had the same design but from an artist who's design translates better into vtubing. Heck, even ねづみどし would have something better than that.

>> No.17037250

>>17037168
her NY outfit is taking longer than even councils because its likely a remodel like Nene. Probably not a redesign though, so it makes things even more complicated

>> No.17037266

>>17037168
Irys would've flourished with Calli's model. Pink PL to Pink HL. Also, Cover would've wanted Milky to be in Myth if they know she's secretly a menhera. Milky would've been a nice addition.

>> No.17037302

>>17037266
Mori's secretly a menhera*

>> No.17037311

>>17037266
Naw, cover shies away from menhera after the Aloe incident, as evidenced by HoloX and Council.

>> No.17037422

>>17036053
Does she think she could be popular again anywhere else after graduating? Kson did that, but it only lasted a few months. Now, she's out of content.

>> No.17037430

Baelz waiting room 1k with ~35m remaining. I guess there is some demand for this timeslot.

>> No.17037479

>>17037422
That's why Kson is joining Vshojo.

>> No.17037522

After all, they have a paycheck. First Hajime and now Mito confirmed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvkbgquXJ1I

>> No.17037609

>>17037522
>$500
>$300
>5 months
>past time
Good money for wave 1

>> No.17037626

>>17037522
yeah a paycheck of 30000 yen, that's like 300 dollars. it's below minimum wage

>> No.17037632

>>17037422
for an indie kson still pulls okay numbers, her sc is still strong though

>> No.17037737

>>17037479
r/vshojo is more dead than r/nijisanji if she wants to do a meme review

>>17037632
Kson and Calli is world's apart having gachis though. Kson might've collabed with that VOMs guy, but it was all for the betterment of the industry. Calli might have intentions on collabing with a lot of males which puts off a lot of her previous fans. She could flaunt being on twitch after graduating with 8k+ ccv though.

>> No.17037759

>>17037626
Even that kind of money when the company had nothing looks good. Now they are definitely getting more money.

>> No.17037841
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17037841

Here is an update on the EN ranking for January
>Mysta is a high ranked EN streamer by his own strength
>Vox outranks Baelz
>The only boy that still didn't pass Selen was Shu, by the skin of a teeth
>Selen still didn't caught up to Sana
>Reimu... ;-(

>> No.17037851

>>17037430
>For someone who isn't Kiara
Not to rag on her too much, but she's filtered a lot of people for assorted reasons.
There's probably room for one more HoloEN in the euro timeslot.

>> No.17037904
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17037904

>>17037841
Now, here is what happens when you sort it by number of streams

>Niji boys are all in the Top 7, Top 5 of NijiEN
>Baelz and Kiara hold the fort for Hololive
>8 out of the bottom 10 are HoloEN

>> No.17037918

>>17037841
>Sana
>9

sheesh

>> No.17037989

>>17037841
Was expected that Vox would be at Fauna/Kiara's level. Surprised Rias surpassed Kronii, though kronii was mixed with debuff streams. This can be considered first month's progress after debut buff. Rias only managed to beat 7 HoloENs. Now it falls off after this.

>> No.17038034

>>17037904
kek hardworking EN

>> No.17038049
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17038049

>>17037841
>>17037904
And here is the current Top 50 overall. Given that half the month was under CCVID things are still not looking good for most but there are enough streams now to make it possible to properly compare.

"Ayame rule" is in effect there so only streamers with 5 or more streams are listed.

>> No.17038053

>>17037841
Sana is a mistake, fuck you Ina.

>> No.17038081

>>17037522
Thank gods, now this shitty rrat can die. I always found the idea that Niji paid NO salary to be kind of silly.

>> No.17038105

>>17037904
Jesus,
Cover needs a lot of work to do.

>> No.17038147

>>17038049
Not only that, we know the NijiEN blokes were minimally affected (Ike gained a SMALL bump in numbers when everyone was unflagged whereas the other NijiEN gals who were streaming gained quite a bit more).
That's not going to stop shitposters though, oh well, c'est la vie.

>> No.17038179

>>17037904
People will call me retarded for this but I honestly see quite a few parallels between Luxiem and holoX

>> No.17038185

>>17038049
>Aqua is actually the Ayamekiller

>> No.17038195

>>17037904
>>17038034
HoloEN going with the "work smart, not hard" approach. Good to see a few of them still committing to the grind. For comparison, Koyori is almost double Bae's stream count with 43. Pink Lamy is just a different breed entirely

>> No.17038203

>>17037904
Sana didnt even try it.kek

>> No.17038218

>>17037841
Selen still hasn't beaten Sana. Also the boys really, really are annihilating the girls. Like no build up at all. In Nijisanji proper the girls were king over the boys for at least a year before falling off a cliff, there was no such gap here. Shu is nipping at Selen's heels and he doesn't even stream during buff hours.

Also I'm not sure how good these numbers are considering the apocalypse that happened at the start of the month. I want to see the February 28th numbers.

>> No.17038222

>>17038081
They had a paycheck. Understandable that no one wanted to work at a start up company with no pay checks. It's only later after multiple waves that Kaede broke down how much they earn. Plus, Mito mentioned that she earned a salary for the 5 months. No words after.

>> No.17038224

We'll surely get a Watchalong of Pekora at twitch tomorrow if she doesn't want to put that behind a member-only stream, 15~k maybe? Though it doesn't matter, it's twitch numbers.

>> No.17038260

>>17038179
>I honestly see quite a few parallels between Luxiem and holoX
There is an obvious parallel
>both are hardworking
>both are number oriented
>both are fresh gens
The parallels stops there tho, there is a HUGE gap between them

>> No.17038265

>>17038195
>HoloEN
>"work smart"
LMAO

>> No.17038269

>>17037841
Meaningless chart. This guy was riding his unculled debut buff high while everyone else (including NijiEN femoids) had CCV coof.

>> No.17038318

>>17037841
>doing this shit while knowing of ccvid

>> No.17038331

>>17038049
Good to see once again Pekora at the top, with a good amount of streams too, to have a good average median.

>> No.17038371

>>17038318
I hate to suggest this, but the chart really needs a disclaimer that the numbers for many of the streamers are wildly inaccurate due to YT fucking up so bad for a good chunk of January.

>> No.17038384

>>17038049
>Pekora 20k median despite CCVid
MY KNEES AAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

>> No.17038407

>>17038195
She has had a "productive" entertainment life but nothing she ever tried panned out and she barely got roles outside of bit characters or bit parts, so many projects that were duds. If you spent every day since you were 16 trying to make it and finally did after 1x years you'd work hard too. I can't imagine the endorphin high she's been having for the past few weeks. A good SC earner, decent sub gains, 3 covers above 1 million, CCV average of 10k+ etc.

>> No.17038435

>>17038318
Gotta do it, else the graph for January is a void

>> No.17038486

>>17038049
rushia's ccv always surprises me on these

>> No.17038642

>>17037430
2k waiting room with 5m left. Kind of interested now in what numbers this EU hours stream will get

>> No.17038664

>>17038435
Yea yea, I get it, but do put a disclaimer. There are going to be people asking "WTF HAPPENED in January!?" for months after, and it'll save a whole lot of headache to have that note on the graph itself (space willing)

>> No.17038672

>>17038318
>>17038371
>>17038435
>Gotta do it, else the graph for January is a void
Other than the boys the girls were more or less universally affected. Just filter the boys out in your minds.

This chart is for internal consumption in this thread, is there anyone even unaware of the fact the first half of the month was fucked up beyond belief?

>> No.17038713

>>17038260
In CCV? Dunno, HoloX got annihilated by ccvid but yeah, there is a really big gap there.
In SCs? Luxiem's SCs aren't bad at all, they're quite good. Chloe is in another world and Iroha/Koyori are no slouches but La+ and Lui aren't great.
In market impact? No, Luxiem created the western market for male vtubers in the """west""" while HoloX just eats from everyone else's plate.

Luxiem's only failing is making NijiEN girls look like complete useless bums, side characters, and not boosting them in the least. I find it hard to find fault with HoloX betides Chloe killing her potential to be a CCV monster.

>> No.17038723

>>17038435
ccvid already made it void, anon

>> No.17038727

>>17038672
>This chart is for internal consumption in this thread
You know full well that the chart will be posted on bait threads. Give it disclaimer in the middle of the chart as obnoxious as possible.

>> No.17038779
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2M get

>> No.17038796

>>17038713
damn anon, did you mix some codeine on your copium there?

>> No.17038811

>>17038269
Luca got a 15%-30% bump the second CCV ended. They were getting it a bit but it wasn't HoloX's 90% cull.

But yeah, January's numbers are kinda useless since the cull varied so much between people.

>> No.17038846

>>17038713
>No, Luxiem created the western market for male vtubers
pfhahhahha. do you actually believe this shit?

>> No.17038873

>>17038713
>west
Fucker there's nothing 'western' about Vox and Mysta's fanbases. For the blokes grinding it out in NA, I'll give it to them, they're slowly working at it, but if you're telling me a fanbase composed heavily of SEA+JP is 'Western', I'm going to need some of what you're on man.

>> No.17038997

>>17038435
>Useless, misinforming chart is better than none at all
If numbers aren't accurate It's worse than them simply not mattering as they're actually damaging.

>> No.17039053

>>17038997
Looking at the table, it seems the relative order of the streamers is correct. The absolute value of course isn't but is that really a big problem?

>> No.17039066

>>17038846
Yes. I don't think the market is actually western but now there are western male vtubers to fawn over. My biggest worry is if the dearth of NijiJP males due to concert prep is coupled too closely with their rise.

>>17038873
"""quotations""" means I don't think their fanbase is western at all but guys technically are in the west.

I do think that the "west" market Vox and Mysta have might be volatile, even if it is a lot to ask, making headway in the actual west could pay off down the line.

>> No.17039222
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17039222

>>17038811
>Luca got a 15%-30% bump the second CCV ended
his bump was 409/3033 = ~13.5% according to the graph

>> No.17039310

>>17039222
Okay, I am wrong. 13% is kinda small potatoes compared to what happened to everyone else so the assertion that >>17039053 makes about the rankings being right doesn't sit well with me.

>> No.17039369

>>17039066
Okay fair, I'm running on fumes and didnt even parse the quotation marks.
>>17039053
Please, for the sake of the rest of the board and future numbers threads, put a goddamn disclaimer for the month of January.

>> No.17039385

Is rat getting more or less than Kiara in this timeslot. I don't watch Kiara so i don't know.

>> No.17039510

>>17039385
Kiara's numbers are all over the place, so I can only say for non uber-debuff shit, but normally Kiara would get 4-5k on part x on non-debuff stuff in this slot, with 7k+ with MC.

>> No.17039513

>>17039385
rat is getting the samenumbers she would get at jp time. Kiara would get these numbers at this time at neutral content i think, neither buff or debuff, also considering that the stream is only 17 mins in.

>> No.17039525

>>17039385
Lazy off the cuff here, but ~4k at < 30 minutes seems roughly in line with Kiara's numbers. I don't watch Kiara either but I'm usually browsing for YouTube background noise while working, so I get to see the CCV in the recommended tab.

>> No.17039527

>>17038713
>Iroha/Koyori are no slouches
That's the understatement of the century when Iroha is one of just three vtubers to earn over $200k in a calendar month and Koyori is third for January barely behind Chloe and well ahead of a birthday buffed Pekora

>> No.17039551

>>17036793
vshojo is literally the cancer of vtubing and the reason why vtubing is so bad right now. They are extremely polarizing and most of the old fans of vtubers hates their ass. The only good members from there are Melody and Ironmouse. Kson would just commit a complete brand suicide if

>> No.17039590

>>17039513
>>17039525
Seems like Bae is getting some Korean gachis even at this time. Not sure if she is stealing some from Kiara or just her regular ones.

>> No.17039667

>>17039053
>Looking at the table, it seems the relative order of the streamers is correct.
Based on what? All the NijiEN boys would drop ranks if it was.

>> No.17039762

>>17039667
Again, just ignore the NijiBoys in your mind as they are the pretty much the only 5 more or less unaffected.

>> No.17039768

>>17039053
Not at all, Talents like Towa and Pekora got axed of around 70 to 80% of their true stats by the "end" of the CCVid(it hasn't even ended, it's just a bit less noticable than it used to be) whereas some other like the Livers from Luxiem barely got CCVided, actually I don't think they ever got touched in any way compared to their mates from the Gen 1 to 3.

>> No.17039846

>>17039762
As other anons have pointed out, this chart is going to be used as bait all over the place.

>> No.17039891

>>17038713
Did you know 1 month ago La+ had 8k5+ members? I wouldn't be surprised if she has 10k+ now

>> No.17039915
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17039915

Who will win the race?

>> No.17039975

I just woke up. What did i miss?

>> No.17040022

>>17039891
Half of them are me. I will groom this chuuni retard

>> No.17040075

>>17039915
GO TOWA!

>> No.17040078
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17040078

>>17038713
>Rorumao

>> No.17040162

>>17039891
That's probably only $0k take home.

>> No.17040204

>>17039846
>this chart is going to be used as bait all over the place.
Like every other chart made

>> No.17040384 [DELETED] 

>>17038713
Here are all the SC's thrown on Vox's membership stream, sorted by currency. Just my opinion, but looking at the table, it feels like his audience is not very "western".

>> No.17040449

>>17040384
They are westerners anon.
Western taiwan that is

>> No.17040514

At this rate, NijiEN will debut future waves at JP prime time for maximum viewership.

>> No.17040562
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17040562

>>17038713
Vox's membership stream SC, sorted by currency. It doesn't look like his audience is very western, so I am not sure what you mean by "created the western market for male vtubers in the west", lmao. It actually would be more accurate to say that luxiem created a market for western male vtubers in Taiwan/HK/SEA/JP.

>> No.17040567

>>17039891
source?

>> No.17040624

>>17040562
Where are the western currencies???? Why did you filter them out!!!

>> No.17040644

>>17040204
Doesn't excuse you for spreading misinfo.

>> No.17040657

>>17040562
thats why they avoid NA prime time. I respect the other 3 who grind tho

>> No.17040662

>>17040562
My bad, >>17040624
didn't notice since the western currencies are so few compared to the rest.

>> No.17040665

>>17040562
>all that NT
those are actually chinks arent they

>> No.17040723

>>17040562
Holy NT. Also more yen than USD.

>> No.17040799

>>17034975
Suha Min was mentioned a few threads ago for getting almost 700 viewers for his karaoke, because it's about 5 times more than his previous recent peak.

From ID, Mika had over 1k with an Oliver collab.

That's kind of it.
LeeRoha is still in Japan and hasn't been streaming, otherwise she'd be the only one in the 1k region.

>> No.17040881

>>17040567
Hololyzed. Stream on 12/25

>> No.17040901

>>17038713
>Luxiem's only failing is making NijiEN girls look like complete useless bums, side characters, and not boosting them in the least.
What a weird thing to say considering the girls been around longer

>> No.17041029

>>17038407
Ngl, I'm hoping that she talks about her life struggles on stream, might have to be members. Once that happens, the gachis will level up and she may finally rival Chloe.

>> No.17041167

Kanata had a poll on her stream for almost 1 hour now and it still has less votes than viewers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvu8j6tOsJM

>> No.17041175

Move here when you fags done
>>17041003
>>17041003
>>17041003

>> No.17041185

>>17041167
the viewers are probably asleep

>> No.17041256

>>17041185
Yeah, at this hour, it's a cozy stream to fall asleep to.
speaking of

>> No.17041260

>>17041167
>theres no poll
>theres no pic

>> No.17041314

>>17038997
> If numbers aren't accurate It's worse than them simply not mattering as they're actually damaging.
We might ad well close down the thread then consider public CCV are always incorrect

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17041334

>>17041260
Yeah she ended it as soon as I went to post that

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