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>NOBODY in EN, especially not in Myth, defended her or wished her well for her "break" or commented on it in any way
Rumao, suspension confirmed. They're not allowed to acknowledge it.

Or they hate her so much they don't want to be seen supporting her, take your pick.

>> No.17028681

>>17028624
Aren't they only allowed to post if management says it? And how do you know they're not supporting Mori privately, is this all just headcanon drama shit or what

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>>17028624
>NOBODY in EN
Wrong

>> No.17028693

>>17028681
fucking read

>> No.17028725
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cuckbeat tears

SIIIIPPPPP

>> No.17028735

If she was suspended she wouldn't even be tweeting you fucking retard

>> No.17028781

>>17028624
There are other ways to communicate besides twitter. And she said she’d stream when she feels like it. If she was suspended, that wouldn’t be an option.

>> No.17028792

>>17028695
MYLOAD I KNEEL

>> No.17028804

>>17028624
They hate her and getting tired of covering her ass when she HERSELF keeps on shooting herself in the leg

>> No.17028841

>>17028681
>muh private support
Why did I know this cope would come
Private support means fucking nothing, the point of support is that other people (especially antis) see it, if Fubuki had only supported Coco privately nobody would give a shit, it's because she did it publicly that made her a hero

>> No.17028866

>>17028624
>NOBODY in EN, especially not in Myth
n-not even the infamous, walking yab machine, zombie idol, k-kureiji ollie?

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>>17028695
SHIIIIIII-

>> No.17028890

>>17028695
>My Lord adding fuel to the fire
I KNEEL

>> No.17028907

>>17028624
Why the fuck would anyone with half a brain touch that meltdown voluntarily? There is literally nothing to be gained.

>> No.17028937

>>17028624
Why would they do that on Twitter when they can do that directly to her through Discord?
Only wannabe friends do that through public channels

>> No.17028951

>>17028624
Nobody in HoloEN likes each other, they're coworkers at best and not friends.

>> No.17029000

>>17028624
It's Mori's stupid drama, did people defended Gura when she was being called a full pedo on the internet or her dox photos started to become popular?FUCKING NO BECAUSE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO IGNORE IT AND LET IT BE FORGOTTEN

>> No.17029012

Similarly Connor clearly isn't actual friends with Mori. This involves him to some extent and he hasn't squeaked out a peep to defend his "friend".

>> No.17029047

>>17028866
Not even ze kureizi ollie.

>> No.17029076

>>17028937
Normally, when someone takes a break, some other holos would reply to that

>> No.17029082

>>17029012
Connor is probably thinking what a fucking idiot Mori is.

>> No.17029140

>>17029082
i have a feeling he's either enjoying it greatly, or wants nothing to do with it

>> No.17029178

>>17029082
Dude is probably laughing his ass off, from a safe distant

>> No.17029197

>>17029140
He greatly enjoys that he has to do nothing

>> No.17029234

>>17028624
They may factually not be allowed to comment on it yet, not until management carefully chooses the words for them to say to try to handle it smoothly.

That and/or, this being the first actual yab of EN space where it's truly the chuuba's fault stepping out of bounds? The other Myths probably are kind of terrified this actually-happened and don't wanna go near it until they know what to do. That and/or laughing their asses off going "told you so" if they were trying to warn Mori to cool off earlier in the week.

Lastly, if they come in too strong to her defense it might look like the other ENs are now also excusing/validating/enabling her behavior, maybe even by extension validating her lean reference to boot etc. There are a lot lot of fans and a lot of people who might read far into things and misconstrue shit. It's a serious risk being pushed into her yab box alongside her when they can just avoid it by not trying too hard to excuse what she did.

>> No.17029281

>>17028624
She was definitely suspended. Or management told her to stop and put her on "preventive break". And she's probably pissed about it behind the scenes.

Kiara always spills the beans for some reason so I expect the suspension would come out the next few days straight from her mouth.

>> No.17029297

>>17029082
Where does the "Mori and Connor are close friend" comes from anyway?
Surely there's more to it than being on TT and gifting him some subs that one time right?
Right?

>> No.17029313

>>17028624
>Mori doesn't publicly defend her colleagues
>Connor doesn't publicly apologize to them either
>Now they don't comment about her suspension
Poetry

>> No.17029327

>>17029234
I don't see how wishing her a good rest has any implication on the yab/ drama whatsoever
It's kinda weird they aren't doing that

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>>17028624
>take your pick.
You first.

>> No.17029343

>>17028841
This, the talk about
>ThEy tAlK iN pRiVAte(or discord)
always cracks me up, cause none of it means anything.

>> No.17029347

>>17028624
Not putting these things out in the open is standard professional behaviour anon. You can be sure as hell that the other girls give her all the support she needs.
>inb4 cope seethe
don't bore me

>> No.17029352

>Everyone tells her to shut up about it so people stop talking about it
>She does and so does everyone else in the company
>"THEY H8 HER!11"
Great display of mental handycap right there /vt/. Keep it up.

>> No.17029387

or it's such a nothingburger that no one even heard of it?

>> No.17029394

>>17029297
Mori literally said they are friends?
To be fair she probably feels closer to him than he does to her because, well, it's fucking Mori. Simping and stalking males is kind of her thing.

>> No.17029401

>>17029352
Except she's still going around pushing buttons twitter right now. She hasn't highlight more art of her cucking her fans yet but it feels really not too far away from that in that she's still going way beyond usual holoEN protocols.

>> No.17029413

Mousey dropped some love too

Goes to show who her real friends are

>> No.17029436

>>17028725
I personally like Mori and in fact thought she was the best in EN.
Well, I think this is a whole lot of nothingburger and she's still kinda entertaining, but she really needs to stop biting bait.
If anything this """"""'drama""""""" proved that she browses /vt/ a bunch, you wouldn't be this triggered if you weren't.

>> No.17029440

>>17029281
>Kiara always spills the beans for some reason so I expect the suspension would come out the next few days straight from her mouth
She's a Austrian, they're incapable of lying for some reasons

>> No.17029470

>Ina remembers the LL collab, the one that ended up creating a 6 month gap until their next collab
>Kiara remembers the Takamori times, still wonders if she listened to her King cover
>Ame still remembers her birthday streams
I dont know what is Gura's issue

>> No.17029490

>>17029394
>ywn be a creator mori simps for
why live.

>> No.17029506

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Slz9CT6oA8

>> No.17029516

>>17029387
You can't be this delusional
She shat the bed on Twitter and reddit to the point she was dislike bombed, had to delete her posts, apologize and take a break
Is not a secret to anyone

>> No.17029517

>>17029352
>>17029347
>>17029000
>>17028681
Whether you're a fan of Mori or not, take your own advice and stop giving these threads attention. She gains no benefit from you defending her on /vt/, all it does is give the antis yet another post to respond to. Start ignoring the threads and just let them suck each other's dicks. Don't let yourself get baited into replying. They'll get bored when nobody feeds them and eventually give up.

>> No.17029520

>>17029490
im working on it

>> No.17029519

>>17029327
>doubting the ability of a schizophrenic mind to perform mental gymnastics

>> No.17029521

>>17029413
Damn, being free from the corporate leash will make you do THAT!?

>> No.17029546

>>17029470
>I dont know what is Gura's issue
That's the point, Gura just want to hang out with girlfriends

>> No.17029550

https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1485466310351986696?s=21

>> No.17029553

>>17029440
uhh, I feel like you might be forgetting a certain Austrian historical figure?

>> No.17029560
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>>17028695
>adding fuel to the fire

All according to plan, my lord!

>> No.17029568

>>17028624
>Holomyth
>Made MVs together
>Sang together
>Collabed together
>Celebrated 1 year anniversary together
>Holomyth are so close and tightly knit, just like sisters in a family.

However,
>Mori made an unintentional yab!
>Error 404: Ina,Kiara,Gura,Ame nowhere to be found

I thought Council was garbage, but Myth is on a whole another level it seemed.

>> No.17029587

>>17029387
>no one even heard of it.
Kek, even the nips are enraged. And to think they live at the other end of the sphere

>> No.17029617

>>17028624
Or, just perhaps, they're intelligent enough to read the room and wished her well in private.

>> No.17029625

>>17029550
>9 hours ago
It's like you don't even spend all your free time here. Next time don't bother

>> No.17029628

>>17029568
im going to assume youre new to the internet but here's a tip on how to deal with internet drama as a minor e-celeb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgWHrkDX35o

>> No.17029641

>>17029568
I think it's more like they're either actually-barred from talking about it by management, or they're giving Mori a taste of her own medicine. Or, they're planning on making a statement about it and needed to convene and agree on it first.

Just from this thread and how Cover seems paranoid to squish rrats this alone probably will elicit some sort of statements about it sooner or later, mark my words. At the very least, someone will ask Kiara about it in one of her 9 hour long superchats and she'll be pretty open about it.

>> No.17029643

>>17028624
>NOBODY in EN, especially not in Myth, defended her or wished her well for her "break" or commented on it in any way
Oh, just like Mori never ever defended her genmates, but goes apeshit whenever someone shittalks connor?

>> No.17029654

>>17028681
>supporting Mori privately
Let me guess, Proof next thread?

>> No.17029655

>If you don't do it in public it never happened.
Incel.

>> No.17029670

>>17029617
Now way

>> No.17029672

>>17028624
not every one is a drug addict like you OP

>> No.17029682
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>>17029568
>>Mori made an unintentional yab!

>> No.17029700

>>17029568
>Mori made an unintentional yab!
Is not unintentional when you are constantly and deliberately working and surpassing your jab for almost a week, anon

>> No.17029703

>>17029327
>wish her good rest
>morischizo sees that
>change targets because Mori is on forced break
>other antis join and start harassing that holo
Look at FBK, she's still getting wheelbarrowed because she chose to appear on Asacoco after Coco' 3-week suspensión and chinks switched targets

>> No.17029704

>>17029553
But that man speaks nothing but the truth

>> No.17029732

She's irrelevant prostitute like 95 percent of the holowhores.

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>>17029436
>I personally thought this was a nothing burger
Cuckbeat, she managed to rile up plebbit, and twitter, plebbit whom the safest box, literally angry at her behavior

>> No.17029767

>>17029740
It was funny though

>> No.17029769

>>17028624
can't defend shit when she brought that upon herself. should've just put down the phone calli.

>> No.17029805

>>17029517
deafbeats aren't necessary to keep threads going when the nigger of japan replies to bait herself

>> No.17029812

>>17028624
Mori will never learn if the people around her always defend her and tell her she did nothing wrong.

>> No.17029823

>>17029767
We're laughing at her, not with her tho

>> No.17029842

>attack fans
>comment on cuck porn on official account
>defend your retardation on an official reddit account
>1 week suspension
Vs
>stream with your avatar in a test stream and forget to delete it
>suspension that rolled into a graduation
White privilege

>> No.17029873

>>17029740
>Deadbeat excreting the last of his tears he didn't know he had

>> No.17029911

She literally says this in multiple streams, especially in the one where members were talking about connor shitting on hololive.

>> No.17029934

>>17029842
okay maybe add to aloe's list that she spoke shit of nijisanji

>> No.17029954

>>17029842
Don't bring her into this
>>17029934
Shut your damn mouth

>> No.17029987

>>17029911
Literally says what?

>> No.17029997

>>17029954
no, his comparison was unfair
also we don't know if aloe chose to leave

>> No.17030033

>>17029436
Mori you're not fooling anyone
I still love you tho!

>> No.17030056

>>17028624
>they don't want to be seen supporting her
Why the fuck would they want to support her for shitting on her fans and causing drama by sucking off a guy that calls them talentless bitches?

>> No.17030061

>>17029842
>Suspended for a week,
>decided to quit herself anyway,
>was given a contract that she can always return with 1 year time limit
>Never returned anway

>> No.17030102

>>17029553
he wasn't lying he genuinely believed the shit he said. hitler was a prime schizo and if he was alive he'd probably be browsing /vt/ and believing in flat earth. the dude was crazy as fuck and hooked on meth too.

>> No.17030111

>>17029517
The problem here is that Mori herself responds to them, so even if deadbeats stopped responding, it would mean nothing

>> No.17030122

This kind of shit is exactly why Kiara broke up with her, to be honest.

>> No.17030123

>>17028624
If they post about it publically, they run the risk of making it worse, so they don't. It's common sense.

>> No.17030128

>>17028624
its the number 1 rule
>keep away from menheras

>> No.17030138

you reap what you sow

>> No.17030162

>>17028695
>milord pouring oil into fire
>Mori swallowing the bait with hook, line and sinker
Based.
>>17029012
He got an easy W.

>> No.17030196

looking at the state of this board nowadays,
it made Kiara look like a saint.

well, just move on with your life people, all bunch of (you)s get cucked so what?

>> No.17030208

>>17029769
She should put down the bottle, I dunno if she needs AA necessarily but a therapist wouldn't hurt.

>> No.17030235

>>17029436
Connor? what are you doing /here ????

>> No.17030236

>>17030138
you mean YOU REAP WHAT YOU FUCKIN SEISO

>> No.17030251

>>17030056
She really hated people giving red super chats voicing concerns. Asking said members why they are her members and why they are donating to her. Ungrateful but that's not all says she is going to give the money they send to the people they are criticizing.
Wonders why the fuck her fans are mad at her.
Just graduate she knows nothing about managing fans.

>> No.17030284

>Not even the saviorfag of EN, haachama, said anything or even liked/retweeted anything
jesas....

>> No.17030307

>>17029470
>>Kiara remembers the Takamori times, still wonders if she listened to her King cover
Crying and begging, a lovely sound
I tear at your soul, but you still stick around
What I've found is a treasure indeed
A friend who can bend to my every need
I'll use and abuse you and never feel bad, until suddenly, funnily, you take my hand

>> No.17030341

>>17030284
That's the right thing to save EN

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>last stream 5 days ago

>> No.17030547

>>17030284
>>Not even the saviorfag of EN, haachama, said anything or even liked/retweeted anything
Are you a retard?

>> No.17030596

>>17029740
Is it possible to actually be critical on the hololive sub or are negative posts instantly deleted by cover? How locked down is the sub?

>> No.17030646

>>17028695
Deadcucks, this is your bull for tonight.

>> No.17030650

>>17028624
They probably have an emergency meeting as we speak
And of course the star of the show, Mori, still messing with her phone trying to get as much Twitter cred as possible

>> No.17030670

>>17028681
Why would they want to, regardless of being allowed or not

>> No.17030676

>>17030596
r/hololive mods are actual Cover employees. And the audience is also fitting.

>> No.17030687

>>17030547
No? she didn't like/retweet any of mori's tweets or replied to any of them with words of encouragement

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fatties rolling in to defend their fellow fatties

>> No.17030697

>>17030596
Yes, you can be negative and critical and the mods won't delete your post or anything. You will probably get downvote bombed by the users but you are allowed to do that kind of stuff. What you can't do is create 10,000 schizo threads a minute if that is what your personal idea of "being critical" means.

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>>17028681
hitting the copium hard

>> No.17030775

>>17028841
I think the same about
>C-connor apologized in private
Even if he did it's worthless. You can't trash someone to an audience of 10k people for your own benefit and later quietly apologize in private in hopes of keeping those bridges from burning, assuming he even did. Fucking leech behavior.

>> No.17030778

>>17030596
Almost nothing gets deleted unless its posted in obvious bad faith.

>> No.17030822

>>17030596
Any semblance of negativity gets downvoted to hell. The fact that Mori got downvoted shows how the fans of the other hololive members dislike her unprofessional attitude. This is worse than that Matsuri yab.

>> No.17030877

>>17030822
reminder that Mori locked the thread and not the actual mod too.

>> No.17030914

>>17030596
if you want rainbows and unicorns, go to reddit
if you want cancer, come to /vt

>> No.17030923

You're all forgetting one very, very important aspect of all of this. That aspect is the amount of work and effort other girls, not just EN, have put into being idols and in Hololive as a whole. And they're quite successful because of it. Their effort brought results. Mori's actions aren't just reflecting poorly (terribly) on her but have already caused a great deal of resentment and contempt from the other girls, even her genmates. I guarantee it. Because from their perspective Mori is implying that all the effort, discipline and stress simply doesn't exist, because as her buddy Conner said - "You don't have to be talented to be a part of Hololive." Only teenagers and idiots think being a vtuber is easy or simple. It is not. It is in fact extremely hard and taxing work, especially psychologically.

So put yourself in their shoes and see it from their perspective. From their POV Mori is completely devaluing everything, absolutely everything they do and have done so far. And despite this bold claim Mori has failed to live up to the ideal, or more precisely she hasn't even tried to grasp it because she never wanted to be a vtuber in the first place. Mori hasn't put in the same amount of effort, never showed genuine interest or enthusiasm, and on top of that loathes the entire culture and industry. The girls have no damn reason to publicly or professionally support her, and as I see it Mori is now "playing for the other team" so to speak. She's an outsider. She turned her back on THEM, not the other way around. And I admit I'm interpreting this as a man, but I think that there's definitely a purely professional kind of contempt for Mori in HoloEN. And it's all due to her own actions and indescribable stupidity. I have no proof for any of this so it's my rrat, but as an adult with a job... yeah, I don't think Mori will get much support. Yes they might privately talk and remain privately on good terms, but her professional relationship with the girls is in tatters and by proxy everyone in vtubing and vtuber related industry and culture will take note. Her reputation is irreversibly destroyed.

This is equally important - it's possible Mori will end up shitting on us, the audience, with ye olde incel bullshit and how being an idol is patriarchy and other such nonsense. This is of course a lie, because the bottom line is - other girls set the standard and the bar. From Korone to Marine to Rushia to Gura to Ame back to Okayu, Mori didn't fail in the eyes of some imaginary patriarchy or oppressive idol culture. She failed in the eyes of other women. And the only good thing here is that I think she's too genuinely stupid to realize this, because that would destroy her.

tl;dr the girls have no reason whatsoever to side with Mori because she devalued their work, professionalism and sacrifices.

>> No.17030933

>>17030914
I LOVE cancer

>> No.17030983

>>17030923
let me give you a tip, anon-chama
nobody here in /vt have enough brain cells to read a fking wall of text.
you're just wasting your time.

>> No.17031021

>>17030923
Solid assessment.

>> No.17031051

>>17030923
>tl;dr, she shits on my schizo fantasies so I hate her. Also wall of text head canon

Let's be real, a good chunk of these yabs are caused by unironic incel faggots that think working yourself into a schizo fantasy is a positive.

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>>17030923

>> No.17031123

>>17030822
this is hilariously untrue

>> No.17031155

>>17029000
Comparing this to the gura shit idiotic. It was just some stupid bitch seeking attention. In this case Mori got fucking suspended for her own actions

>> No.17031156

>>17030923
>tl;dr the girls have no reason whatsoever to side with Mori because she devalued their work, professionalism and sacrifices.
you could've just said that anon, but I agree

>> No.17031213

>>17029440
>they're incapable of lying for some reasons
It's called catholicism

>> No.17031262

>>17030646
If I was a cuckbeat I'd be okay with it, honestly. He's a couple rungs up the ladder from anitubers, who are all Mori's going to interact with for the next two years of her life anyways.

>> No.17031266

>>17030923
I remember the /jp/ schizos warning us about the negative effects of a western branch. The western vtuber culture is to be cynical and edgy which is quite different to the JP side where its about having fun and letting your audience feel included in said fun. The Coco Mori meme review shows this contrast quite clearly.

>> No.17031273

>>17028681
>supporting Mori privately
>"Connor already apologized with all thw girls personally"
>"I'm not in contact with the TT guys"
If this confort you cuckbeat, Ame liked the multiverse tweet that Mori liked.

>> No.17031275

>>17030923
>tl;dr the girls have no reason whatsoever to side with Mori because she devalued their work, professionalism and sacrifices.
Yeah, pretty much, especially considering how Mori keeps on pushing things despite common sense and probably all of her co-workers telling her to stop.

>> No.17031291

>>17029553
Hitler never told a lie in his life since the day he was born.

>> No.17031294

>>17030923
The only part I take issue with is the rest of the vtuber industry not taking her side, a lot of them would probably be happy to see Hololive get taken down a peg or two and consider Connor and Mori to be telling it like it is, especially those who applied to Hololive and got rejected.

>> No.17031296

>>17030923
If Myth comes out and just shits on Mori, I will kneel and apologize for calling them shit and join their memberships.

>> No.17031317

>>17030102
he was right about them

>> No.17031332

>>17030102
Get back in the oven.

>> No.17031337

>>17030596
Try talking about Mel's manager there. See what happens.

>> No.17031352

>>17029767
Even if it is funny, for Calli to do it takes an autistic lack of self awareness.

Her response would have been fine if she was a part of a smaller group, because people need a thick skin to be online and you might not have a huge community or colleagues to lean on. That isn't her situation though. Every day there's fantastic artists making fanart of Mori every day and tons of people leave messages of support on her videos, contributing towards making her community active and productive.

She works alongside other streamers who, despite having to deal with a shit ton of antis, managed to maintain a positive and productive image rather than dragging down the group by descending into drama, and whose fans pushed through the hardship to show support.
She came about right around when the antis were hitting strong. That's the type of community she's fostered, one that ignored and pushed against antis.

Acknowledging the actions of antis and making decisions from a source of negativity instead of building on top of her good foundation utterly shits on all the efforts of the fans and is a glaring insult to all the senpai who dealt with shit before her. People don't go to Hololive for basic bitch shitposting and the gottem mentality, the occasional snap is golden, but it's also why people weren't keen on Gura bringing up reaction videos recently, it's seen as drama festering and it's just not what the community is.

Calli has a much better community that she could be focusing on, one that would largely have supported her endeavours if she just stopped bitching about people's reactions and got on with it. Not only that, people typically has investments in other members of Hololive too, so when one girl is self sabotaging and taking bait, it's going to feel like she's bringing everyone else down too.

She needs to take her midlife crisis somewhere else, her situation isn't so fucking bad that she needs to indulge in the kind of drama even /here/ mocks

>> No.17031390

>>17031051
Let's be real, does it actually matter who's to blame if you can't actually do anything about their behavior? It's like getting an infection after waddling around in shit and moaning that you're not the one at fault, it's the bacteria who shouldn't be killing their host because they're killing themselves as well.

>> No.17031392

>>17030284
She has her own problems faggot, stop bringing her everytime

>> No.17031413

>>17031352
Anon please put a tl;dr, you can make the best points in the thread and nobody will read it because they can't be asked to read something with more than one paragraph

>> No.17031474

>>17031123
How is it untrue, you will basically never see a negative post upvoted no matter how nicely you say it. The fact that Mori herself got downvoted is unheard of on reddit

>> No.17031510

>get drunk
>make decisions
>oh no

Mori stop it.

>> No.17031534

>>17030923
I'll add you one more, another reason why the other girls aren't exactly eager to jump infront of Mori's pathetic public self-immolation is because ... remember, what's the reason for the current problem in the first place?... because Mori simply can't stop sucking off her favorite ecelebs dick and gets triggered into a melty when being told to keep her legs together.
And what do all the other Mythgirls think about ecelebs and especially the TT crew? They either don't think about them at all, or have more or less thinly veiled contempt for TT. They probably look at all this shit and think to themselves "really, Mori? You're chimping out... for THOSE guys?", because unlike the brapper they don't think of Hololive just as a stepping stone to get into their favorite eceleb circles.

>> No.17031540
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>>17031474
Oh sorry he ment

THIS IS HILARIOUSLY UNTRUE!!!!!!!

>> No.17031574

>>17028624
The girls know if they say anything their own fanbases will be associated to cuckbeats by proxy. "Learning to love cuckoldry aren't you teammates/chums/takos/etc? Looks like your oshi doesn't see anything wrong with that!"
They're protecting their fanbases and not adding fuel to the drama, which is a wise choice

>> No.17031647

>>17031574
If anything it just shows that Calli as always didnt give a shit about her fanbase and was only in it for the e-fame that she'll most likely lose aswell as all her connections if she gets the boot from Hololive

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>>17030923
You faggots were making similar blogposts during the Kiara Veibae drama. Nothing will change. We are doomed to repeat this cycle every couple of months.

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