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Do you think Holostars EN will be successful? Why or why not?

>> No.16875248

>>16875113
Nijimales proved there's a market for that sorta thing. Westerners don't care about idol culture, they just want to see their oshis flirting with other men because they're the ultimate cucks.

>> No.16875351

>>16875113
It's going to be a slow climb, not an instant hit like Luxiem
They need to get people who are passionate about streaming.
And unlike HoloEn they could collab with 3dpd male streamers freely.
Their floor is lower but their ceiling is higher

>> No.16875373

>>16875113
I don’t know about successful but they will do better that holostarsJP at least

>> No.16875613

>>16875113
Since they're using the brand Holostars, no.
NijiEN males worked because of NijiJP. HolostarsJP didn't work the first place.
Also Council didn't even reach half of what myth did.
HoloEN no longer has the attention, all new fans go to other places now, and the current fans ain't gonna watch Holostars, EN or JP.
Cover should have started a HoloKR or HoloES.

>> No.16875660

Initial views will be insane, and there will probably be one breakout success. But it'll normalise after a month and they'll be considered lower to mid tier Holos like Council

>> No.16875695

Why would a male indie want to apply to a company where they're going to get harassed from day 0 just because of their gender?
It's unironically better for any male vtuber rigth now to either stay indie or apply for somewhere else.

>> No.16875718

/vt/ was completely wrong about Luxiem and continues to be wrong. That is all I will say.

>> No.16875730

successful at infiltrating the holounicorn bubble

>> No.16875773

>>16875113
they will average 10k-20k ccv
why? because reddit

>> No.16875786

>>16875773
reddit doesn't even watch the current stars lol

>> No.16875807

>>16875773
>reddit
>watching streams

>> No.16875862

>>16875695
I kid you not, most male indies I've seen that said they wanted to apply to a starsEN are literally unaware of the unicorn culture that goes on in Hololive AND unaware that NijiEN provides a better environment for male vtubers in general.

It's literally just brand power.

>> No.16875971

>>16875718
Wasn't wrong, barely no one from the west actually watches Lux. They just didn't realize that other regions were gonna watch Lux.

>> No.16876042

>>16875113
I think they’ll initially be successful but then recline pretty hard but that’s just pure speculation on my part. I think it would be a really wise decision if management let them collaborate with Luxiem and other outside chuubas

>> No.16876049

Holostars is now on reddit! - 14.5k upvotes
Aruran stream now - 200 watching
KEK

>> No.16876057

>>16875971
They weren't wrong when they said the west doesn't care about male VTubers, but they were certainly wrong when they said there is no audience for western male VTubers.

>> No.16876114

It's going to fail because holo scouting is not what it used to be.

>> No.16876151

>>16875113
I think they would actually be nice streamers in single, but the collabs will be Trash.

>> No.16876243

>>16875113
If they actually are doing a Holostars EN, that indicates that they lowered the standards they had from the first two auditions. Don't expect much from whatever batch they decide to debut.

>> No.16876465

>>16875113
Honestly? Not sure, NijimalesEN had quite a few things going for them that would help them rise in popularity before their announcement and got some more thing after that that futher helped them, hence why some people (myself included) were hopeful about them (though not even the most optimistic ones expected such explosive success) and a StarsEN would lack a lot of those things so they would probably not see anywhere near the same amount of inmediate success Luxiem got, but at this point who knows honestly.

>> No.16876549

>>16875113
I think they'll do well. I plan to join them and hopefully put on a good show for all of you malcontents in /vt/

>> No.16876593

>>16875113
Define successful.
I don't think they'll beat Luxiem or most of the HoloEN girls but they'll easily blow JP Stars out of the water just because of the EN label.

>> No.16876601

>>16875113
Depends, you think tt will be able to continue to do their podcast after they get in? Lots of free advertising.

>> No.16876611
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>>16875113
Yes in the sense it will be profitable.
Not in the sense it won't add anything of relevance to Hololive and may actually scare some fans of the existing girls.
Also everyone already said it but I'm praying for the poor souls that will be fighting this uphill battle, they truly have no idea what's ahead of them.

>> No.16876653

>>16875113
No, because Stars JP isn't successful.

>> No.16876688

>>16876549
>he think he has a chance
Holostars EN will be connor, ao and one rando.

>> No.16876762

>>16876688
I really doubt connor would join; he probably makes pretty good money working for kadokawa and he doesn't really have the personality to be a vtuber imo. I'm still gonna try to make it in

>> No.16876814

>>16876762
What stops him from working at kadokawa and doing ayame/gura stream frequency?

>> No.16876911

>>16876814
eh I don't have an answer for that. I still don't think it's likely to happen even if he was interested (I doubt he is) considering he basically badmouthed the entire company

>> No.16876916

>>16876814
I’m a TT watching fag and he’s said on one episode he doesn’t like to have a schedule so he just streams at random times when he feels like it. To him streaming is just something he does when he has free time

>> No.16876986

>>16875113
no, holostar can't reach chinkland now, the biggest market for fujoshi and male idol

>> No.16877199

>>16875248
They get SEA viewers, not western ones. Chinese at that.
>>16875862
>Knows both but still wants to apply to stream with the stars I respect, and because I don't give a shit about the EN girls
Am I retarded?
>>16875113
Depends on what they do, both the stars and the company. If they go full fag route, they'll tank so hard they'll make jp look like massive winners. If they go normal route, they could do fine. I could see Yagoo slapping some hard cash on them too, such as giving them a big, fancy reveal at the beginning with an orisong to boot so he's got more males to groom. If they get good entertainers + one stand out with that all combined they could potentially make lux look like a joke.
>>16876762
Connor will not join, don't be retarded.
It's Omega

>> No.16877300

No, Nijisanji is for male vtubers and Hololive is for female vtubers. Also someone posted a reddit (the people asking for this) ss of the holostars community only having 10 active while hologirls had over 3.5k active lmao.

>> No.16877321

>>16877199
I want to bully Omega on stream. Or just get casted as Omega

>> No.16877568

>>16875113
The only people who are excited for HolostarsEN are the EOP fujos that annoy the JP dudes and fans who think they can get in and fuck their oshi. At most they’ll have good numbers for their debut stream but then fall to 2k max streams immediately after

>> No.16877609

I think they will have moderate success, better than holostar JP. Most ENfags wanted this and were asking this for a long time. Now if that translates to views or they were just asking for males to make themselves feel better than all the JP unicorns, only time will tell.

>> No.16877791

>>16875862
Jesus, they have no clue the hell they’ll experience if they get in. Unicorns attacking them for even mentioning one of the girls and Ollie being horny in their DMs…

>> No.16877892

>>16877791
if the unicorns are retarded enough to spend money to superchat shit about it I don't see the problem. you could just ignore anything short of actual physical stalking pretty easily, I would imagine

>> No.16877944

They will when they hire me!

>> No.16878164

>>16877791
I don't think they will do that. I feel like most of them don't care enough to attack them. They will just leave if the male-female collab becomes common. I think the big scale collab are fine cause the interaction will be less but 1-1 collab will sure to invite some jealously

>> No.16878303

>>16875113
I think it'll fair better than JP holostars. Despite what the faggots on this board think, a lot of normal fag western viewers have no idea about idol bullshit or if they do they have an extreme negative reaction to it. In all likelihood though they won't get anywhere near the popularity of the girls or Luxiem. They would need to either establish a bro streamer audience somehow or try to get into the Luxiem market.

>> No.16878376

>>16876916
>I’m a TT watching fag and he’s said on one episode he doesn’t like to have a schedule so he just streams at random times when he feels like it.
There's nothing stopping the ENs from doing this. A couple of them have experimented with this.

>> No.16878471

>>16877321
I want them to draw a shitty mspaint of their super cool awesome manager and make it the most over the top, edgy thing they can at the end of their first group stream like Omega's. If the manager earns their spot like A-chan, they get stuck with it. If they suck they earn it. Top comedy.

>> No.16878573

>>16875113
I will do everything in my power to prevent that.

>> No.16878661

>>16878303
Yeah, I'm pretty normal by this board's metrics and what drew me to Hololive in the first places was that they're "idols but not really." I'm talking about JP and EN.
I think they're likely to go the bro streamer route if they're smart; Nijisanji already has the anglophone fujo market cornered pretty well.

>> No.16878960

Relatively, it’s safe to say that they’ll be 2K streamers regularly due to the EN label alone, with a pretty high ceiling with special streams like collabs and karaokes. Also highly dependent on how talented their picks are.

Will they have Luxiem levels of success? Ehhhhhh unlikely, but possible. Luxiem has the Nijisanji buff, but Holostars EN only has the Holostars buff, not the Hololive buff.

>> No.16879281

>>16875113
Once I join holostarEN I can make it a success. Then I will fuck all EN women and turn you all into cucks

>> No.16879470

>>16875113
Perhaps not. People are fucking idiots/blind/willfully trying to ignore the obvious fact that it's the East that held up Luxiem for NijiEN and the West is at like 1/10th their interest level. One of them outright said half his viewers are from Japan. You can see by the superchat currencies and like every single chatter being named like "min ling" or "strawberry mochi" or something that it's almost all Asian girls.

It's weird as hell but that's what's doing it. It's a "win" for them in the same way David Hasselhof is a world-class legendary famous singer.. in Germany. In the rest of the world he's just an old actor. Furthermore, tons of the Lux SCs are in NTD, New Taiwan Dollar.. for whatever reason (I guess because the websites are in a language they can understand) the vast majority of Chinese use Taiwan for their VPNs into the outside internet and they have like 50x Taiwan's population. Given that kpop was banned in China a couple months ago lots of mainland girls have been branching out into other substitutes and vtubers are one of them.

What I'm getting at with these points is, Nijisanji has the giant base of millions of fujo in Japan and Cover does not, Cover has the homos who get like 200 viewers a stream and have like 1/10th the subs of many Holos. Cover is the company blacklisted from China that pulled out on unpleasant terms, they're not gonna get all those mainlander kpon stan women. So no, I don't think they'll be that successful frankly. Given that they also could be an objective drag and debuff on girls they may actually be a net negative investment for the company to do.

>> No.16879502

They will be okay.

>> No.16879593

>>16879470
Depends on how patriotic Chinese fujo women are

>> No.16880469
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I'm here to remind you that Westerners don't care about the stars, or your oshi. They don't actually want to watch them, listen to them, or care about their growth. They hate your JP chuuba, they hate your oshi, they hate idols and want them destroyed (while conflating idolfags with gachifags at that), and merely use them as a platform, tool, or for social grandstanding for the sake of social grandstanding. They WILL try to fuck your oshi if Covers recent talent scouts screening ability is anything to go by, and anyone pretending someone like that doesn't exist or is unlikely to apply hasn't spent one day on the internet. I sincerely feel bad for any EN star who just wants to stream have fun sing and generally entertain people without worrying about collab begging, leeching accusations, hate for no reason, people using you as a reason to preach to others about things you don't care about, people trying to give you hand outs as you try your best to improve by your own efforts, people who'll scold you for not collabing with the girls, people who'll scold you for collabing with the girls, people who'll scold you if you don't grandstand like they do, and people who you don't want to have to tell to fuck off with shipping, either mxm or mxf. If you're reading this and you did get in, do yourself a favor and put your foot down HARD from day one and make an example out of these types, or damn all future gens as well as yourself to a fiery, hellish, self-sanctimonious death.
I'll be adding to this collage as much as I can, until I see them debut. Wish me luck.

t. Raging, raging Homofag

>> No.16880611

>>16875113
Oh, they were announced? Damn I was gone for a week and missed it.

>> No.16880661

>>16880611
No, other then a few small "hints" that can suggest it to be in the works.

>> No.16880679

>>16880469
>caring about the opinions of literal /whos/ on twitter
this is your first mistake

>> No.16880842

>>16880679
The literal whos are the ones who annoy streamers anon. If they say this shit on twitter, they'll keep saying it at the streamers on twitter, their youtube chat, to Cover (justifying Omegas dumbass), and amass groups of other literal whos to continue this and annoy everyone. A single literal who is nothing, mass groups of them are the problem. The zhangs where and are literal whos and they gave cover such a headache for so long they Nankinged China a second time.

>> No.16880847

>>16875113
You can slap Hololive brand on literal dog shit and they still get 100k subs. And then discordnigger here will spam /vt/ on how they mog Nijisanji/other companies while baiting Holobronies about StarEn is fucking their oshis

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>>16880842
fair point, you made me change my mind, fuck them.

>> No.16880943

>>16880842
I'd like to think that Cover and any prospective stars applicants have learned from the way these people act out and are ready and able to tard wrangle more effectively than the company has in the past. I want to make it in myself and it's something I consider important, at least

>> No.16880944

>>16875113
It's going to be a shitshow and I'll probably have to stop watching Hololive over it because it's going to bring the tranny question to the forefront and while in Japan everyone understands grouping trannies with the males, in the EN fanbase it will be a huge shitshow.

>> No.16881014

>>16880874
That's not to mention if they make enough noise and get lucky, they could rouse the rest of the actual hive of twitter under the banner of "sexism", "discrimination" or something more indistinct. If it makes it to one of those little curated twitter highlight things that explain a hashtag shit really flies. People will bust out ol' reliable "It's gamer gate" again which the news stations eat up, and it could just get worse and worse if we're unlucky enough.

>> No.16882416

>>16877791
>Ollie being horny in their DMs…
Sign me up

>> No.16882805

>>16875113
people pushing for holostars are retarded. if you search for anime pictures, you will find that it's like 99% female.

it's like trying to make female body building or male beauty pageant a thing. Just because there's two genders doesn't mean you can replace the gender and get equal success.

>> No.16882831

Ugly female streamers will never be successful. Try to name just one.

OTOH you can be ugly as fuck and still succeed as a male streamer if you're funny. Look at most of twitch. They don't need anime avatars to hide behind.

>> No.16882909

>>16875351
>>16875113
it will be an instant hit. we're talking the most known vtuber company after all.
hopefully the JP side gets the rub.

>> No.16882911

I will join starsEN, have fun with my genmates, engage in friendly, chaste interactions with the girls on twitter and in group collabs, and watch with glee as this paranoid schizophrenic board burns to the ground theorising about which holos I’ve impregnated.

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>>16875971
They were very wrong. There were 3 threads on here at all times on the run up, saying how it would never be successful, the absolute state of niji, etc. And then when Lux did well these threads changed to say it doesn't count because it's a different demographic, and it's all gays and fujos, like targeting a new demo was not the entire point of launching this generation.

Imagine being a numberfag. You don't even watch or like vtubers, you cannot appreciate something unless it's popular with the lowest common denominator, and the one thing you care about - predicting the trends of a contextless analytic numbers; you're absolutely, completely shit at.

>> No.16883919

>>16879593
Nijimales are popular everywhere in the east, unlike holostars, even at the height of hololive popularity in chinkland, the stars didn't get any attention at all, their audience isn't there in the first place, just like nijifemale compared to hologirls

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