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16676627 No.16676627 [Reply] [Original]

What makes us (yes US) so fucking mad about seeing holos be lazy? Gura, Kronii, Sana, and of course the queen of whores Ayame.
What makes their lack of effort so sinful?

>> No.16676749

>>16676627
Are you new to humanity anon? Doesn't matter what your ideology is, people generally hate to see lazy people doing really well and hardworking, honest people doing worse.

>> No.16676848

It makes me like them more. They are lazy like me. /vtrannies are slave drivers.

>> No.16676854

EN issue
There's always a jp chuuba to watch while en whores are all lazy

>> No.16676952

>>16676627
It forces fans to realize they do not care about them.

>> No.16676982

>>16676627
Projection of self hatred

>> No.16677060

Aside from the obvious (people don't like to be shown that effort is irrelevant), I think a huge sell on vtubing is the idea that it's like a "dream job" and that they LOVE interacting with their fans (or at least making content for them to enjoy). Because I think most of them do, especially the OGs. So you as a viewer feel like you are contributing to their happiness just by watching.

But when a vtuber is obviously lazy, it breaks this illusion and you are reminded that to them it's just a job for quick bux, they have no love for their fans, and it's not a passion.

>> No.16677360

i dont really care about council either way but it's disappointing to get excited and interested in a new wave only for half of them to rarely stream. it starts to feel like a waste of a hire when they could have had someone more consistent with their schedule

>> No.16677428

>>16676627
Because they're hired to stream.

>> No.16677436

>>16677360
Not like myth has streamed lately either

>> No.16677472

>>16676627
In addition to some of the things said, a lot of it is frustration from not being able to see them as much as we'd like because they're not streaming.

>> No.16677475

>>16676627
It reminds us of ourselves

>> No.16677489

envy

>> No.16677629

Because at the current day Holo is the most popular and you know that there is someone out there that applied which would have been more grateful for the opportunity to be employed by them. It could have been someone that actually streamed and people enjoyed rather than dead weight.

You don't care about it if you watch more than Hololive.

>> No.16677984

>>16676627
because they were given a golden ticket to a comfy easy life, and all they have to do is stream playing video games 2-3 times a week
and they just WON'T FUCKING DO IT

>> No.16678060

>>16677984

Mori seems genuinely busy behind scenes with projects though compared to other ENs

>> No.16678136

>>16676627
It's just entitled zoomers that demand endless entertainment not fully realizing that chuubas are human too.

>> No.16678263

>>16678060
Busy sucking connor's cock you mean

>> No.16678314

>>16676627
It's just twitchzoomers who need to watch streams 24/7. Mature human beings know how to wait.

>> No.16678500

>>16678314
Then watch indies retard. The point of corpo tubers is they stream at a regular pace on a weekly basis. The fact many don't is a failure on their and their companies part.

>> No.16678532

>>16678314
Why shouldn't they stream 5 times a week? Even just for an hour or two each at least it maintains audience interest.

>> No.16678781

>>16676627
>>16676749
more like projecting their own laziness now that a chuuba is set for life just by joining a big corpo. they can't do shit about their own so they try to micromanage and control others instead to fit their ideal life so they throw a fit if chuubas don't follow through.

actual hardworking people don't give a shit because they have better things to do.

>> No.16678913

>why do they get days off when I have to work?!
It's just jealousy. But it's misplaced, like being jelaous of a movie star - it's a whole different world/lifestyle you're not a part of. It'd make more sense to direct that kind of jealousy at a fellow co-worker, who gets more annual leave approved than you do

>> No.16678930

>>16676627
I don't know, but it's kind of annoying. I can understand if they don't stream for weeks on end, but it should be fine if they're doing 10 streams a month.

>> No.16679190

>>16676627
im not from US tho

>> No.16679311

>>16676627
Because we know most of these girls have no job or duties outside of this and that playing games is something people normally do just for fun, and often in a lot fucking more quantity of it than many vtubers do. So, it looks a lot like they're taking a break from doing almost-nothing just because they can. From that, people might ask "why the fuck does she not even wanna play a game or something? she must hate us then because it takes no effort to do that. if that's how it is then then I'll hate her too for hating me."

Of course, it's not remotely so simple as "start playing whatever just to make some content, turn on the phone and stream" between perms, chat interaction and stream considations, they can someone be themselves in stretches but not always. Nevertheless no fandom wants to see any hints of the thing they're a fan of hating them/spiting them authentically. That's part of what makes the Mori drama what it is, a lot of deadbeats even if they didn't have a strong opinion on TT shitters, might take offense to the fact that at the end of the day Mori shit on a fan hard then doubled down trying to trigger said fan and anyone like him out of pure spite. If she can be that petty and shitty for one reason who is to say she won't do that for others eventually, etc. So, to shit on even one fan is going to at minimum affect at least a couple percent of the fanbase because they find the act itself questionable. To skip streams and give shitty lies over and over is the inverse, not super-shitting on one guy's head directly but lightly shitting on every single fan going "you're not worth my attention even though I said I would come entertain you" and it's like being stood up.

>> No.16679522

>>16678060
And that's exactly why she makes everyone else's fans seethe
If she just graduated like they keep begging her to do it wouldn't feel so bad when their oshi fucks off for a few days without warning

>> No.16679521

>>16678060
Mori is a whore but she actually still streams more than most ENs

>> No.16679647

I seriously can't believe the ayame simps that shower her with money when she streams once a month those people are seriously fucked up.

sana is also a hilarious case because she disappeared for a month shortly after start because her old dog died. Am I supposed to believe that it's somehow surprising that your old dog died or that you need a month off work to deal with it?

It is much more understandable for the JP tubers to stream less at times since they actually do concerts and lives and take lessons and shit while what kronii is putting out a single song? kanata threw together an original song in like a month for coco's grad lol. I suppose they could have already had it in works though since they all knew long before about her graduation

>> No.16679678

>>16679522
see >>16679311
>it's like being stood up
That's EXACTLY it for if they scheduled something and then pulled out. Fuck, why is that not more clearly understood.

At bare fucking minimum let us know well ahead of time something isn't going to go as we've been conditioned (by the streamer herself) to simply expect. Whether it be that X week(s) are going to be light on content or that the schedule is not solid yet and might be late.

>> No.16679852

Well these Vtubers are different people joining Hololive with different purposes.
Some people just want to have easy money (you can't blame them), some only consider this as side job, the rest actually love what they doing and fans can feel their passion.
Personally I only watch and support FBK, she is hard working and genuinely love her fan.

>> No.16679919

>>16678781
>actual hardworking people don't give a shit because they have better things to do.
Ah yes, the old. "You wouldn't be here/be so invested in a hobby if you worked hard." canard. In which case I should assume you are a lazy piece of shit yourself and your opinion on the topic is just as worthless.

>> No.16680015

Cause there's fat dudes on twitch that have better work ethic for free than these overpaid EN whores and their stummy hort for a week at a time

>> No.16680308

>>16676627
> Aki is trying hard so much but still unsuccessful like others
> Aki have to surgery vocal chord because overwork

I unserstand them....
If they not hate lazy streamers that mean their's oshis effort are worthless

>> No.16680462

>>16680308
this guy gets it
aki is better and more precious than any en or jp gen4 5 6 bitch

>> No.16680499
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>>16679311
Well like you said playing games and streaming games isn't the same.
Look at all these ARK addicts. Polka played over 44 hours on the server already and only streamed 8 hours. Fuck, she's even playing on the server right now.
Would you really want to watch over 44 hours of ARK though?

>> No.16680572
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>>16676627
I would be mad if the company I watched looked like this for most of the week because they hired a bunch of lazy people.

>> No.16680583

>>16680499

in games like ark she's probably doing the more boring shit off stream

>> No.16680633

>>16680499
Polka gets a pass cause she works very hard and puts out a lot of content

>> No.16680835

>>16680633
just getting legend of polka to have EN subs is by far the most effective outreach any individual JP talent has done for me personally at least. Well I guess haachama is more effective but she basically can speak english which isn't fair.

any case fuck yeah polka

>> No.16681982

>>16677360
>wave
Love to see nijiniggers expose themselves through their vocabulary

>> No.16682286

>>16678781
i have a somewhat high pressure job. i earn about as much as the average holo member but if i don't show up to work one day, I don't get paid.

i don't really give a shit if they want to stream once a week, or 7 times a week. i just find it funny to meme about some holo's laziness. it baffles me as to why they wouldn't want to take advantage of their earning potential while it lasts.

Also super impressed at how ayame can just turn up one day out of the blue and make a whole month's earnings in one stream.

I'm more impressed by content creators that actually do it full time though

>> No.16682480

>>16676749
>people generally hate to see lazy people doing really well and hardworking, honest people doing worse.
You're trying too hard. No one likes lazy people, period. Even if they're working at McDonald's.

>> No.16682876

>>16682286
You're one of a million white collar mercenaries chasing the almighty dollar, probably in finance, software development, or corporate law. You have no real passion but money-making.
Early vtubers saw it as a hobby with some income potential. Some of them still only see it as a hobby. It's only the current wave of Polkas and Botans who believe in vtubing as a merchandising opportunity with brand potential.

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16683001

>>16676627
Kill yourself EOP, you'll never stop being wrong and stupid

>> No.16683086

>>16682876
??????
Botan joined cause she retired from being a competitive gamer and polka has been a vtuber since 2018
You couldn't have named worse candidates for your argument even if you tried

>> No.16683310

>>16683086
Point is, both view vtubing as a product being sold to marketers. I'll rescind the "early" descriptor if it makes you feel better.
But there is a clear distinction between hobby chuubas like Chammers and Ayame and the tycoons giving business interviews on how to secure lucrative sponsors like Polka.

>> No.16683743

>>16680462
Just imagine about it...

> her Roseitai abadoned her to Ayame or Sana and she found out.

I can not and won't love lazy bitch.
I know it's not theirs fault but I just can't

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16683770

>>16681982

>> No.16683874

>>16683743
There will never be a better song than Shallys. Anyone that hurts the cute, hardworking elf deserves death

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16684254

She doesnt have to live rent free in your head, please take your meds.

>> No.16684517

>>16676627
LOL I don't give a fuck, good for them I guess.

>> No.16684786

>>16683874
> Aki streams so many time until her vocal chord have to surgery dut to overwork.
> /Vt/ call Aki is lazy bitch.

I can't forget that day when I angry unironically to 4chan user

>> No.16685197

>>16684786
Vt isntrash. All they do is sperg about holo en and other trash en streamers
These are the people that will kill vtubing. I'm just glad the jp side is ignoring them

>> No.16685200

>>16683874
too bad suisei's karaoke of it was better

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>>16676627
>What makes us (yes US) so fucking mad about seeing holos be lazy?
It doesn't for me, unless they take like 1 or 2 months on hiatus, I'm fine with 1 or 2 weeks of rest, I know that not everyone has the stamina of the rabbit

>> No.16685915

>>16676627

I think both sides or hobbytist and market focused are valid but I think the problem is that they're getting paid without doing much for months, ie it's their job so if you go and say "I've depression and as such I won't be coming for a months" you're going to get fired, most of use are used to "I don't care if you're half dying, if you don't come to work you're not getting paid" and as such seeing someone getting more than what we can earn just for coming to work one day a month is just... sad to a certain point, specially if this is their job and their job is to entertain others, there's so many times you can rewatch a stream, maybe not asking them to stream every single day but at least keep a minimum of 4-5 streams a week (as specially the JP branch is busy af recording and doing whatever shit Cover asks for).

Also not seeing them, it's stupid but if you Oshi streams once in a full moon it's kinda sad, like I remember when Botan stopped streaming for a week because she was moving, boi did I suffer, I don't want to imagine what would've be if she were like Ayame.

>> No.16686102

>>16676627
Gura isn't lazy, she can do no wrong

>> No.16686864

>>16685200
Risu is better than Suisei

>> No.16687038

>>16686864
at least suisei can pronounce english words LMAO

>> No.16687527

>>16687038
You imply Risu can not?

>> No.16687675

>>16687527
have you heard her?

>> No.16687832

>>16679919
Reading reps, retard-chama. The anon in the replies mentioned hardworking, honest people like they give a shit what these larping chicks do while schizo's use them as ammo to shit on chuubas for not streaming.

>> No.16687960

>>16680499
>every hour of ARK Nene played was streamed
Based. Too bad it killed her PC.

>> No.16687981

>>16687675
https://youtu.be/ITkZPExUoiI

Yes, Risu is underrated one afterall

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>>16676627
i am stealing this ogey

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