Morally, Unicorns matter and should be pandered to

[Anonymous No.]

I believe holos have a moral obligation to pander to the ideals of unicorns and gachis, instead of listening to the larger population of normie fans who will accept any kind of behavior and content. Normie fans are irrelevant, they will eat anything put on their plate and they will come and go with the tides of popular trends.

There are all sorts of disparaging things people say about unicorns, and while these might be true, hololive would not be where it is if it wernt for weird creepy people like that. Weird creepy poorly socially adjusted people CARE deeply about their passion in a way normies never will because it is not socially acceptable to care too deeply about a hobby.
It is this obsession that built hololive from the ground up.
These are the people who showed up to every Sora stream encouraging her when she wanted to quit. These are the people who gave Subaru a new lease on life.
These people fucking built hololive, they matter. The modern fans would not have stood by the early holos during hardship. These people are more socially well adjusted sure, but socially well adjusted people DON'T CARE. They just consume. That's the problem, they'll just move on to the next thing once hololive is ruined.

I think the girls have a responsibility to pander to the ideals of unicorns since they owe their success to these kinds of people.
This is why I hate people like Ollie and Mori who will take any opportunity to shit on dedicated fans with expectations. They got RICH off this shit and can't even bother to do the bare minimum of behaving in a way that conforms to their ideals on stream? The fucking disrespect.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone have the gura dream copypasta where she tells you to kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

no

[Anonymous No.]

> I believe holos have a moral obligation to pander to the ideals of unicorns and gachis, instead of listening to the larger population of normie fans who will accept any kind of behavior and content. Normie fans are irrelevant, they will eat anything put on their plate and they will come and go with the tides of popular trends.

> There are all sorts of disparaging things people say about unicorns, and while these might be true, hololive would not be where it is if it wernt for weird creepy people like that. Weird creepy poorly socially adjusted people CARE deeply about their passion in a way normies never will because it is not socially acceptable to care too deeply about a hobby.
> It is this obsession that built hololive from the ground up.
> These are the people who showed up to every Sora stream encouraging her when she wanted to quit. These are the people who gave Subaru a new lease on life.
> These people fucking built hololive, they matter. The modern fans would not have stood by the early holos during hardship. These people are more socially well adjusted sure, but socially well adjusted people DON'T CARE. They just consume. That's the problem, they'll just move on to the next thing once hololive is ruined.

> I think the girls have a responsibility to pander to the ideals of unicorns since they owe their success to these kinds of people.
This is why I hate people like Ollie and Mori who will take any opportunity to shit on dedicated fans with expectations. They got RICH off this shit and can't even bother to do the bare minimum of behaving in a way that conforms to their ideals on stream? The fucking disrespect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
no, those toxic incels need to be purged from the fan base permanently. Cover is hopefully going this route and the sane, decent human beings can finally enjoy healthy human interactions from vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
Stop sugarcoating your mental illness under the guise of "unicorn". We already found a more harsh and accurate term for you guys: Parasocial.

[Anonymous No.]

unicorns have a moral obligation to piss off

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660236
no green arrow so you say this and look like this though

[Anonymous No.]

Just because Unicorns have good qualities doesnt mean you need to pander to their bad qualities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660340
Well adjusted people do not watch or spend money on VTubers. Lonely losers who have more money than things to spend it on (no GF, wife or kids).

[Anonymous No.]

you need some pussy in your life, repectfully

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660236
>Retarded wojaknigger can't even greentext well
Roru roru RUMAO

[Anonymous No.]

mucho texto

unicorns should be purged because they present a tangible threat to chuubas' well-being, simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660236
>[space]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660368
I, OP, am not actually a unicorn. I have no oshi and mostly watch clips. I just hate seeing normies walk into a hobby and water it down, I've seen it over and over and noticed it's happening on this board of all places.
Everything gets watered down to appeal to the average person but the average person fucking sucks.
Atleast creepy obsessive dudes are at least exceptional in their dedication to hobby

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
normie fans don’t donate as much as cash cow gachicois because they are normal and aren’t as parasocially invested in the corporate or indie puppet anime girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660577
Yes you idiot that's half my entire point

[Anonymous No.]

unicorns don't have power, they're just a loud minority
they're not donating any money, gachikois are

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
Anon.. I can see your passion.

[Anonymous No.]

Idolfags should be gassed

[Anonymous No.]

Should unicorns really be pandered to if they're the type to react to betrayal with violence? I read the posts whenever some Holo talks to a dude or whatever. I see Elliot Rodger. I see the Kyoani arsonist. People do crazy things when they're in love; they do even crazier things when they feel betrayed.

[Anonymous No.]

I kneel, OP is once again based

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660619
gachis =/= unicorns
long story short, unicorns are gachi who turn schizo and spiteful when their oshi is unable to match their unreasonable standards (it'd be one thing if they only demanded no male collabs, unicorns often add more and more to their list of demands if placated), withdraw their support and turn towards anonymous harassment.
The crux of the matter is that unicorns can never be pleased for reasons wholly external to the chuuba, so the solution is always to remove the unicorn to avoid incidents like the one that caused Lulu to graduate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
They do not need you, anon. Nobody needs you. Nobody wants you. You symbolize everything that is wrong with Vtubing industry and deserve all the contempt and ridicule you get. People like you fucking turn on the chuuba the moment she does anything you don't approve of, and traditionally are the most dedicated of antis. And yet you have the audacity to say that you are the ones who built Hololive and keep it alive? You are just waiting for the slightest hint of excuse to tear it down, and this post is the perfect proof of that. Hololive exists despite you, not thanks to you. Go take your ego and entitlement, which are even bigger than Noel's boobs, and stick them where the sun doesn't shine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
Holy shit, i didn't expect this not to be a copy pasta.
What kind of moral ground are you talking about, this is just "good guy finish last" mentality deluxe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660368
i think the term you're looking for is "closet anti". They are not people, they are rabid wolves always poised to bite the hand the moment it stops petting them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
based and true. cucks seething.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
Poor normalfags are seething, keep it up!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
People will rage at this, but you're pretty much correct in the general sense. Normalfags are fickle fans who will leave without warning and don't stick around long term. They are extremely passive consumers with no passion or standards. Every hobby and subculture goes downhill once the number of normalfags reaches a tipping point.

[Anonymous No.]

Based and true

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660340
>using incel as an insult
jesus christ this place really is becoming overrun with normalfags

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
Corporatism needs to die

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
>>16660619
Yeah but it's wrong. There is no evidence you losers are making up the majority of earners. Conflating gachikois and unicorns is disingenuous. The categories are not binary unicorn and normie.

You future-cucks complain about Mori all the time. But she is doing really well, so how the fuck does that work, mate? Clearly there are other successful options for vtubers than parasocial relationships with virgins who will shit the bed if they like a mans tweet.

If I was a vtuber I'd hate to have you creeps a hairtrigger from going full mental collapse and threatning suicide all over my timeline if, for even a second, I stop putting up a seiso facade literally everyone else plays for a joke because of how stupid it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662101
Rushia loves me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
I mean, the mentally ill fags are the only reason they are rich

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662175
Parasocial relationships should only be discouraged if its one-sided. If it's mutual like in the case of Rushia, sure have fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660236
Then leave or hang yourselves and take your money with you. Its your own fault you continue to pay and support her. Just like its your own fault for being a Unicorncel

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662101
>riding off holo's name
Take a look at indies then come back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662101
In its current state hololive is big enough and has enough revenue streams that gachis and unicorns are unnecessary, yes I agree. Which is why the first word in my title is "Morally".
You don't need these people now but they did help build everything you have today. And the things they are asking for are not overreaching. Just stream consistently, act like you care about the company and your coworkers and don't talk about men on stream. It's not fucking hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
Based take

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
korone is that you? when did your english get this good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16661494
unicornfags will harass and send death threats to any vtuber who even breathes the same air a man did

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
Based take, cant wait to see vtuber industry dying when the unicorn leaving. Just see how the high earner avoid male at all cost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662816
Just don't collab with a male then, it's not that hard, especially if you're a vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662816
proof next thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662875
not even collabing with a male, just the mere hint that they might or might not interact with a male in the future will trigger them. why pander to parasocial schizoids?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662989
because we are superior and rightfully deserve ownership of their lives

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662989
>why pander to parasocial schizoids?
Money, you don't read the thread huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16663040
yeah thats fair i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>16663049
i dont read threads, i simply post

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662989
>>16663040
No one's talking about owning their lives. It's not fucking hard to match expectations.
You don't go to hijabland and start talking about how much you love eating pork and looking at other men's wives.
It's really fucking easy to just stream and not talk about whatever white cock you dreamt about last night Ollie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
Based OP. Whores need to be kept in check via corporate enforcement of pandering to unicorns. Otherwise we’ll have veibaes talking about eating cum and menstrual discharge or whatever.
Also notice how many seething holes with “aspie rations” are itt.

[Anonymous No.]

Unicorns and gachi are mentally ill and the real cucks, they have a pretend girlfriend, but not only that, they share her with hundreds and thousands of other people lol

[Anonymous No.]

When this is just sad when unicorns become nothing more than groomers. No wonder they seek out 2viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>16663309
If I don't see the other men, they don't exist for me.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought a lot about the hostility against unicorns and came to the conclusion that it's just projection of incels and holes alike.
Like pedophiles always having to talk about lolicons on twitter.
Only an incel or someone with an incel mindset would shoot his load to the usual twitch titty streamer.
You gotta be a pretty desperate white knight to have such low standards
I'll always have anime to go back to if vtubing becomes just another den of thottery.

[Anonymous No.]

Unicorns are the only people who are capable of violence, stalking, and harassment toward their oshi. If you suddenly don't meet their very strict image of what you should be, they'll violently react. Never throw a bone toward violent people, they do not deserve love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664000
Violence is the only way holes can be kept in check.
We tried civilized options through social and corporate violence, but we aren't afraid of resorting to physical violence is the whores still refuse to keep their legs closed.

[Anonymous No.]

Do not engage with the whore defenders, do not reply to them nor read their posts. Their arguments are weak and don't even merit a glance. Just know that us unicorns will be always in the right and rightfully deserving of our oshi's undivided attention. There is nothing anyone can say to deny this inmutable fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664000
Actually, the violence and rape is done by the males they collab with. Arcadum, OTV, Carson, and various Twitch streamers are all violent groomers/rapists. I would look up some random Twitch streamer like Zalae and he'd be banned for beating his girlfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662989
what is so hard with giving what the "crazies" what they want for a few hours, collect their money, and fuck off to do offline things? why must they drag men into their jobs? The GFE/unicorn/parasocial shit clearly brings in the most money so why try to encroach on it with on-stream male interaction? And not just any male interaction, male vtubers or male ecelebs who can easily get away with "flirting" with said girl on stream, which is something a parasocial fan didn't become a fan for, Is it an absolute necessity for a popular vtuber girl who has like 90% loser otaku male fans to start collaborating with men? It doesn't matter if they have boyfriends or are married irl, that shit never really mattered cause it's personal shit, it's what they present on stream as their character that matters. If you think this sort of culture is bad and should be abolished then fine, go enjoy a vtuber who isn't pandering to these types of people, don't try to ruin something already established. This point has been made a trillion times and yet I still see the opposition openly be disingenuous on the real reason for this sort of drama, there is nuance to it and it's not just a simple "eww m*les"

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664378
Link to evidence of those people being "rapists"? The worst thing I saw of them was being creepy on the DMs. They didn't burn down an anime studio or stalk their oshi's place of residence like the unicorns do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664427
Tl;dr, but for the first sentence: Same reason you don't feed the pigeons - if you do, they'll come back tomorrow, but with friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
I think everyone should have a vtuber that fulfills their needs but some unicorn retards are loud and obnoxious (and schizo) and make the rest of you guys look bad.

[Anonymous No.]

You guys can spin the anti-unicorn propaganda as redditbros trying to tear down female centric entertainment.

The thing is a lot of gay female teens watch HL and Nijis and constantly draw gay ships.

If they attack you say you're trans or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664427
I'm not even a unicorn but I think leaning into pandering to them just for the purpose of draining their wallets leads to the sorta scenarios where streamers mock their fans behind their backs and make fun of them to others behind closed doors. I think it's better if girls that don't believe in pandering to unicorns just stick to doing their own thing instead of you guys getting led on by dishonest individuals.

[Anonymous No.]

Put yourself into the girls shoes and look objectively into how unicorns behave. Do you really think that they would unconditionally love these people in spite of how they act, if their smell, fat body and ugly face didn't turn them off first? I know you gotta have some suspension of disbelief to believe that someone that streams to thousands of people every day can somehow be in a relationship with you, but you have to face the cold hard truth of reality and see how harmful unicorn behavior can be.

Graduation is inevitable. And whatever next form they take, it won't be the same as before. And you will be heartbroken. And you will wonder why you wasted all your time and money into an illusion. Just have fun and take it as entertainment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664762
they wouldn't even be in the business without unicorns because no one would have signed up without aka supas

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664762
>where streamers mock their fans behind their backs
Lets be real, they don't really respect their viewers in either scenario.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664814
>if their smell, fat body and ugly face didn't turn them off first?
Sounds like projection. You actually have to have money to become a gachikoi. Most archieve this by being conventionally successful. To become conventionally successful you have to be any combination of smart, lucky, good-looking, disciplined or an oil baron. Except for the oil baron you also have to be able to navigate a world ruled by normalfags somewhat, so not be an utter autist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664948
cope

[Anonymous No.]

Bruh just stick with Rushia if you want that sort of attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664427
Because even with a small number of "crazies", one of them is bound to turn into harmful stalker. The more you filter that crowd and focus on entertaining the safer you will be as a female streamer. Most (not all) female streamers genuinely go into it to unironically have fun and make friends. That's why they express so many conflicting emotions when it comes to acknowledging unicorns and the "loser fan" image.
The ones that go into it for money or e-fame cater to coomers instead of unicorns but even then they eventually run into problem fans that try to push wierd fetishes they're not into and not willing to cater to but also not willing to openly refuse them because like most women they're conditioned to avoid confrontations and rocking the boat, even when they're the ones holding the tiller.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664929
Can't really argue against that, fair point.

[Anonymous No.]

Your oshi doesn't even care about most of their fans, only about the ones that throw her the most money, if you're not among them, you're getting cucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664990
This desu, you'd think after numerous members of EN have collabed with makes they'd realize that even in Hololive isn't as secure as it used to be. Just become a fandead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
this thread is probably a bait but i dont doubt theres a few people who agree with this fully so this (you) is for those mentally ill people.
theres nothing more moral about unicorns, the negatives of unicorns personally, socially and culturally outweigh the good that giving one person a bunch of money does.
you trying to rationalize your mental illness as somehow moral proves that being a unicorn is more of a negative thing then a positive thing.
if something was more moral then the default moral standings most people have you wouldnt have to justify yourself as much as you do

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664588
Are you retarded or just living under a rock? Look up Twitch rape scandals, there was a massive drama about it and they started banning dozens of streamers. Collabs with males are fucking dangerous, far more dangerous than any "unicorn".

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
>All that retard spew
Imagine being this incel for this long and managing to not get hit by a fucking bus. Natural selection is getting it wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665190
Your reasons for watching a grown woman larp as an anime girl are no more valid than anyone elses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
>Morally
I already don't care, fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665196
That's one person out of all the orgs and people you mentioned. Where's the proof of sexual assault for the other people you mentioned?

And maybe I am living under a rock, why should I care about eceleb drama? Get a life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660541
Based, unicorns are all psychopathic yanderes who will turn around and anti someone like a schizo instead of just walking away and finding a different oshi peacefully.

[Anonymous No.]

I am special, I'm not like my oshi's other 999999 boyfriends, and I'm sure that if I give her enough money, she'll be mine alone.

Do cucks really...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665038
>Because even with a small number of "crazies", one of them is bound to turn into harmful stalker.
Anti-unicorns keep spouting this shit and two hololives with the biggest earning who pandered to unicorn don't have this problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665196
Are you some kind of retarted feminist? Imagine thinking being in the same space as a guy equals being raped, now I hate unicorns more than I already did before for reminding me of this stupid misandry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665356
I'd be here all day if I had to post about every singer streamer who got raped or beaten by a male streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665190
> if something was more moral then the default moral standings most people have you wouldnt have to justify yourself as much as you do

Tell me you're joking. Did you seriously just unironically write that? Are you literally fucking retard

> people will do the moraly correct thing without having to be persuaded or convinced

You might actually have posted the single dumbest fucking thing on the board today you troglodide

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
I'm not even a unicornfag, but I can tell a based post when I see it
No unicorns = no money. Normies aren't retarded enough to spend money on virtual waifus who won't even show them their tts. Unicorns are lonely losers who only have their pretend 2D "girlfriends" to spend money on. They are literally the lifeblood of vtubing no matter how annoying they are
Thank you based unicorns for keeping my entertainment alive, all these cucks are just ungrateful faggots and should be ignored

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665510
Yeah, they are strange. This is why I think what I wrote here >>16663450 is the actual reason.
entertainmentbros are goslings in denial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665568
Go ahead, i'm still not convinced by your anecdotal claim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665515
Just saying the male unicorns are literally no threat compared to the male streamers, bro. Don't twist it into your weird politics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665510
It's always the same shit.
"Incels are dangerous to women". Meanwhile Chad beats women for sport

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665571
>Unicorns are lonely losers who only have their pretend 2D "girlfriends" to spend money on.

Now THIS is based. If a self-proclaimed would like to admit that they're losers and the scum of humanity, I would gladly rescind everything I said. not really tho lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665571
I'd rather the whole thing die than be beholden to sniveling incels pining after a fucking 2D model.

Burn it all to the ground if thats the case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665669
>Male unicorns are no threat
Chuubas have literally graduated over possessive fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660368
PFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHA you fags invented the term as an insult and now that it's not working as intended you wanna get rid of it? screencap this and tell your discord friends that they are retards and will never be a real woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665356
>s-show me the evidence
>gets presented evidence
>moves goalpost
>b-but that's just one of them
>w-who cares about ecelebs I asked evidence about?
>g-get a life... ha!
My sides

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665629
Here's one who was involved with Vshojo. The only threat to these girls is from the people they work with, their fans do shit all.

[Mori No.]

I love hololive and I don't wanna suck my friend's dick
take med

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665762
I prefer you normalfags burn it to the ground so there is something decent human beings can rebuild than rotting it away until nothing worthwhile is left like you usually do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664378
>carson
>violent groomer/rapist
good one, op

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665786
>Chuubas have literally graduated over possessive fans
>source: my ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665863
>"decent human beings"
>Getting into creepy parasocial relationships with 2d avatars

You're not decent, no matter what your overpriced psychologist tells you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
>Do this not because you actually believe in connecting with your audience and being their surrogate GF, but because these guys are emotionally vulnerable and will be your paypigs that you can drain and fuck your actual boyfriend after.
This just makes me hate women even more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665838
You claimed that these girls were all raped, when the worst this guy has done was manipulation. Maybe you shouldn't bundle rape and being a creep as the same thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665571
Unicorns=/=Gachikoi, the money comes from elsewhere unless you are Rushia or Lamy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665919
Lulu...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666037
Those two terms are pretty much one and the same on this board

>>16666053
Do your reps EOP-kun...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665510
when you get enough crazies they tend to act like a cancer with its own immune system, it takes care of its own creations but its still an unstable cancer.
>>16665570
idk how you think that anon when OP's post is a thing.
but ill correct and clarify myself because i thought it was implied by how the OP's argument is overdone.
him over explaining his point when he couldve summarized it as "i think being a unicorn is morally better because im supporting a creator more then the layman" proves hes trying to suck himself off for being a better person, not trying to actually have a debate on the idea in question.
>>16665919
i assume they may be referring to lulu

[Anonymous No.]

Unicorns will never be happy. They will never be loved. They will die alone, living off of the memories of their favorite anime roleplay streamer decades after they graduate and move on. Enjoy your oshi while you still can, it's the last instance of faux-happiness you will feel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666021
Scroll up, I said rapists/groomers. Arcadum got outed after physically groping a girl, anyway, they just didn't go so far as to call it sexual assault since the other rapists did far more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666137
Yes, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>16660236(湯)
>reddit spacing
>w*jak

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665968
I'm quite confident I made the right call in my life, even though it took a while.
I was immoral in the past and learned from my mistakes.
Just recently I could've gotten intimate with a girl a friend of mine loved before his very eyes and didn't. I could've been the bull in the cuckold fantasies you probably jack off to but didn't, because that shit does nothing but hurt everyone involved.
I've done so in the past and decided never again.

[Anonymous No.]

Op based but nijifags ruined it all the way. Losers nijifaggotry. Done here. Bye. Pokers

[Anonymous No.]

>Morals
>Principals

Cringe. Hedonism all the way

[Anonymous No.]

Unicorns are at least honest about their requirements. Normalfags would never give these girls the time of day if they didnt roleplay behind a JPEG and instead had streamed with a facecam . Can you really say they are that different?

[Anonymous No.]

Its simple, no one who has a relationship will ever become a unicorn, therefore we can say that all unicorns are people who were unable to get a girl to love them, therefore we can easily say that unicorns are people who were unable to accomplish the most basic of traits that can be used to describe a human being and thus cannot be considered humans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666076
>Those two terms are pretty much one and the same on this board
its like the egirl and e-thot thing.
some anons treat the term e-girl and e-thot as the same thing but theres no actual consensuses among most anons everytime it comes up and always devolves into arguing about what the terms mean and if they are the same thing or if e-thots are just the worse form of e-girls
at least with gachis and unicorns, even though anons use them interchangeably, most anons do understand the difference is that unicorns are the crazier ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16661494
>Normalfags are fickle fans who will leave without warning and don't stick around long term.
I've seen unicorns be infinitely more fickle.
Normalfag fans might silently drop off after a while when they get bored, but usually they'll come back if the chuuba does something they find interesting again.
Unicorns will suddenly flip from love to deep hate at the drop of a hat, and then a week after that they'll find a new obsession.
They might play at """loving""" their oshi, but it's just a momentary obsession, for good or (more often) for bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16664427
>what is so hard with giving what the "crazies" what they want for a few hours, collect their money, and fuck off to do offline things? why must they drag men into their jobs?
We both know this isn't how this works. The second a female chuuba debuts, there's people digging into their personal accounts to find them talking to any male, who then morphs into a boyfriend (and therefore a reason to hate). It's never ACTUALLY just "don't do this on stream", it's always "Don't do this ever, in fact don't have done this in the past either." Hell, I bet if Rushia graduated and got married years later, she'd start getting hate mail over it then too.
The only way for unicorns to actually be happy will be when they start growing these girls in vats, keeping them in a vault the entire time they're an idol, and then putting them down when they're done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666889
Great whataboutism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666889
Dystopian, but I'm interested in the salespitch.
Tell me more about this world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666053
>>16666078
That isn't what happened with Lulu though. Lulu's an ex-actual idol, she's used to stalkers. Her problem was Anycolor telling her she couldn't stream while they went after the stalkers.

[Me No.]

>>16660110
no

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>>16666076
>On this board
This board isn't real life anon

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>>16666929
It isn't fucking whataboutism, it's not even a hypothetical. It's directly related to the part I responded to, which claimed that "giving 'crazies' what they want for a few hours" and then "fucking off to do offline things" would be enough, when it very clearly is not.
I've quite literally NEVER seen a female chuuba debut without people on this site digging through her past and chimping out over past interactions with men. If it was just about stream conduct that wouldn't happen.

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>>16666985
i know anon, im just saying that probably who he was talking about even if hes wrong.

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>>16666889
Unicorns are particularly retarted for being roommate fags, they are purposefully killing their own kayfabe

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>>16666889
Woww kson living in fear

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>>16666078
You wash dishes for a living don't you anon?
You're a stupid little faggot arnt you anon?
>over explaining his point when he couldve summarized it as "i think being a unicorn is morally better because im supporting a creator more then the layman" proves hes trying to suck himself off for being a better person

I am OP and my point is not that gachis are morally superior. My point is that the talents have a moral obligation to cater to these people since it's because of their charity and dedication that hololive was able to flourish. These "creeps" are the reason some of these girls went from near homeless to filthy rich. Pay your fucking respects.
It's the same type of sentiment as "respect your elders", "don't be rude to service workers".

And as I said earlier, I myself am not a gachi or unicorn. I'm not subscribed to any vtuber much less to spend money on them.
What I am is someone who fucking hates seeing shit get watered down to appeal to normies. Movies books games news, everything goes to shit when they start trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. These people don't care about the content and can't distinguish quality, they just consume whatever is in front of them.
Normal, average middle American wallmart employee people are the worst fucking humans. They create nothing, they only exist to be conned out of money. At least the creepy weirdos that are gachis are extraordinary in their dedication to the medium

[Anonymous No.]

i swear if i knew mumei irl she'd be my gf. i can just feel it

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666078

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>>16667300
Yeah man, she openly talked about how good security was a priority when she was apartment hunting for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

Why aren't the NijiEN girls doing worse if unicorns are the main money machine? Why aren't they making less? This board loves to pass around the rosebud schizos and their manifestos about dropping the branch but some of Rosemi's most SCed streams are post-Luxiem. Pomu's still making cash hand over fist. Millie's making more in a week than I make in a month, etc.

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>>16667165
I think what they want is a lonely, single, impoverished hikki girl to shower with attention and donations, and they get annoyed because a lot of girls only pretend to be that for the money. Better that they confirm things early on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16667497
unicorn retards will just scream that everyone who donates to a vtuber who interacts with males is a cuck as a handwave to anything that goes against their deluded worldview. you shouldn't bother trying to logically break down the points of people who do not operate on a logical level

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>>16667497= truly utterly nijifags right here this board delusional.

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>>16667370
you're just sucking down copium because they don't care about you. Get back on your fucking meds before your caretaker finds you on the computer again. I think you're over your time limit

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>>16660110
You were needed in the beginning and it was optimal to use people like you. Now people like you are not needed and can be ignored and removed if they get in the way. As in hundreds of other cases, you are just bones in the foundation of a building for more worthy people than you. Even /vt/ is not a moderately cozy cauldron for a niche hobby, but a human zoo in which you are in a cageg for entertainment.

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>>16667370
>Respect your elders
I will respect my elders if they aren't shitty people
>Be kind to service workers
I will be kind to service workers if they aren't assholes
Unicorns that actively attack chuubas who collab with males are assholes so I don't care. I'm not gonna kiss ass.

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>>16660110
Based take, cant wait to see vtuber industry dying when the unicorn leaving. Just see how the high earner like mori avoid male at all cost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16667370
If people who hate normies choose to watch chuubas with millions of subscribers then they are reaping what they sow. Hipsters may be annoying but they are technically correct about this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16667165
You keep crying about these hypothetical "crazies" but you never post some real and concrete example, especially for vtuber-sphere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660368
you fucking faggots need to get out, people like you shitting up a hobby and this board are exactly why gatekeeping is necessary for things you enjoy.

see literally every hobby in the past 20 years thats been ruined by normies, that will be vtubing due to retarded faggots like you

[Anonymous No.]

Don't let fujos and male feminists on this board shame you for having standards, unicorn bros.
how many western whores will pander to unicornchads for our money, but the moment we expect some commitment , we're suddenly raging misogynist 'incels'...
they'll use buzzwords like these to shame you if you dare to expect something from women besides them playing games and doing cute noises while earning a ton of money.
there's also a lot salty 2views and indies who got rejected by JP corpos from /asp/ and /wvt/, hating GFE and idolchads is how they cope.
don't be a cuck like EN oil barons, brainwashed by vshojos talking about how many guys they fucked in a single night.
t. fandead

[Anonymous No.]

does anyone else remember when gosling was a derogatory term? amazing how the bar to not being a newfag isn't even 2 years and most of this board can't even meet that

[Anonymous No.]

wow nijifans are furious at unicorns

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666455
Pekofrog poster, you are so wise. I want to suck your dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16668005
Copypastafag spotted

[Anonymous No.]

>>16667939
>get out get out get out
Have fun screeching into the void, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662989
>parasocial
Why are so many twitch losers here holy fuck

Look at someone like Gura for how to interact on social media, not giving the time of day to clout goblins and normalfags, understanding that her fanbase is more important

[Anonymous No.]

>>16667939
>>16667939
Good and this should serve as an abject lesson, we will enter every hobby of yours as we have for the last 20 years, you will fail to gatekeep, as you have for the last 20 years, we will ruin your hobby, get bored of it and leave, as we have for the last 20 years and you will spend the rest of your life watching us in impotent rage as we do it over and over again.

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>>16668184
I'm salty about you guys ruining vtubers but you're literally too low iq to use the channels I use for normal communication.
You guys talk on platforms where I come to take a shit. You'll always be inferior, always chasing the dragon and always gonna be a fool.
Wearing shortsightedness and mindless destruction as a badge of honor. Roflmao. You're literally admitting to being cancer.
I respect your honesty, if nothing else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16668184
Kek you have nothing you enjoy in life, you're just larping as holier than thou because being a thirdworlder that makes 5$ an hour is suffering and you have to run away

[Anonymous No.]

>>16668462
This has to be a fucking copypasta right ? Idolfags can't be serious

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660523
Well would you give it to me? of course not, so stop complaining sweaty

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666711
I would say that those are the bad apples out of the majority of unicorns/gachikois.
Everyone hates them.
Like some anon said, the cancer evolves it's own immune system that keeps the worst in check even if it's all cancer.

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>>16667491
/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>applied for idolcompany
>turning the company to hollywood cocksucker

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>>16661927
he wasn't really a unicorn more a creepy fan that didn't like that his favorite idols became secondary and stopped being cute in order to have her in the front. He's more like anti-EN JP purists who think the mere idea of foreign branches ruined hololive or Coco saying "fuck" was the beginning of the end

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>>16660157

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>>16668570
I'm serious. It's not a copypasta, but you can make it into one :^)
My actual profession lies in IT. I'm pissed off at the centralized web and would rather see big players migrate from youtube to something less central and controlling. A decentralized protocol like bitchute could've been if it wasn't retarded.
But back when a paradigm shift was possible creators made videos solely out of passion for the medium and their livelyhood didn't depend on it.
Soon you won't even be able to watch a youtube video without a TPM 2.0 module in your chipset.
It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16669296
Will ultimately crypo like tech fix this shit?
Or maybe something like the project Dim Fool is funding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16669409
No, the problem lies within the user.
Convenience is the grass roots driving force behind this bullshit. This is why I hate normalfaggotry.
You wanna communicate with friends? There's the Matrix protocol and TeamSpeak(or better yet, Mumble) for that.
Need to scream your idiocy into the world or promote yourself like Twitter? You could use Mastodon. Wanna learn how to grow Cannabis, become popular, shitpost anonymously, build a bomb, build a compiler, order stuff? Why not use onionrouting instead of the clearweb(granted, the servers here are still centralized, but at least it's more anonymous) ?
Wanna stream or watch them? Well shitfuck, you're currently out of luck or gotta cuddle up with white supremacists and actual schizos on sites with shit bandwith, shit latency and shit encoding.
Or decentralize the upload and download like bitchute did. There you can pay the creator directly and discretely, but it's also a den of moronist extremism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16669925
Pain.

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>>16667929
Bud, there's new drama from people digging into a chuubas past just about every day. I'm not one of the people talking about stalkers or whatever, but if you're claiming you DON'T see the constant boyfriend posts then I don't know what to tell you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16668005
What Mocca was saying there has literally nothing to do with the topic of this thread, but he was 100% right.

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>>16660110
I wish you post was true.
but:
OP, in your logic, you're wrong about one fundamental thing: The original buyers or founders of things shouldn't get special treatment if they don't stay the best at it.

Streaming is a business, not a charity, and you're not profitable enough compared to the general public right now. It may not be very obvious, but in the corporate world, it's better to have 8 buyers who pay a dollar than one who pays 10. You can`t rely on the tastes and preferences of a small group of consumers who pay a lot but are finicky.

Share holders are much happier when the customer base consists of replaceable little people - easily lost and easily attracted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
Tl;dr cope, seethe, dilate, have sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16669925
>Imagine being this off your meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16669925

[Anonymous No.]

Unicornfags are the easiest to farm (You)s from, all you have to do is point out that their delusion is delusion and you get multiparagraph responses debating about irrelevant shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
So lemme get this straight, basically you're saying that they should ignore the majority of audience and instead pander to mentally unstable people? Because that's what unicorns are, if you get furious just because a girl you like had any interactions with a *gasp* male, then you seriously need that therapy.
So no, I disagree, first because I believe talents should have complete artistic freedom in doing whatever they want and if some of audience disagree with that, they're free to leave. Secondly, I have no intention on supporting practices that enable people with issues to spiral even more into the abyss, doing that makes both industry and its followers partially responsible for deterioration of their mental health. Lastly, I'm aware of how much of a role those people played in jumpstarting this entire gig, but if we owe them anything it's releasing them from this self made torment and helping them actually rebuild their lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16661571
The absolute state of this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
Classic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
The girls are whores to be pumped and dumped for content. You don't matter, all that matters is the normie hordes and their cash nexus. Get fucked.

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>>16662392
They're a business model you dipshit. You're the sucker. They never cared about you, they care about the money, and now the normies and their tastes pull in the dough.

You got tricked by ten-cent e-whores. Get fucked.

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>>16660110
I agree that they should pander to unicorns, but only because that’s the best way to secure funding so they can keep entertaining non-menhera people like myself for free.
At the very least they should do the bare minimum to keep those money printers printing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16669257
oh shit thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
HoloID has never been a unicorn branch despite faggots like OP insisting this is so. How about each branch is allowed to have its own culture instead of (you) trying to impose your own ideals unto it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
I also believe this to be true.

[Anonymous No.]

You either support unicorns or you're a cuck that escaped his chaturbate containment

That's just how it is

[Anonymous No.]

> NOOOO YOU CAN'T WATCH HOLOLIVE FOR ENTERTAINMENT!!! YOU HAVE TO BE MENTALLY ILL LIKE ME!!! YOU HAVE TO HATE ANY CHUUBA WHO TALKS TO MALES!!!

[Anonymous No.]

> You either support unicorns or you're a cuck that escaped his chaturbate containment

> That's just how it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
TL:DR
Get fucked retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
>moral obligation
What the fuck are you doing here chink? Get back behind your wall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16679596
>>16679744
gentlemen, back to the sharty

[Anonymous No.]

>>16680137
Do western cucks even realize how hilarious it is to proudly admit how fucked you really are is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16680230
They have blacked.com
Of course they don't

[Anonymous No.]

>>16680230
Go away chink

[Anonymous No.]

>>16680230
>>16680280
Lol this coming from a bunch of faggot that suck xinnie’s Dick? Remind me again how many time he allows you faggots to have sex? Was it 1 or 2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665500
Paying someone who helps you escape your depressive lives or pay for a therapeist who drags out your appointments for money
both options has the chance of improving yourself
pick your poison

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>>16667370

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>>16662989
Thats not true though but keep on making up lies

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660571
>I have no oshi and mostly watch clips
>I just hate seeing normies walk into a hobby and water it down

dont you have a mirror at home

[Anonymous No.]

Unironically based. Fuck normalniggers and Redditors. Only gachis and unicorns actually give a shit about Hololive beyond it being a vaguely "in" thing to talk about to their faggot friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16680665
You new to the board?

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>>16667370
fucking based

[Anonymous No.]

OP is a retard who thinks Hololive morally owes anything to unicorns or anyone at all.
That's not how life works. It doesn't matter if they built Hololive to what it was today.

I'll put it simply. Assuming one day you get a Job. Are you going to donate half your earnings to the university that gave you an education?
Or 10 years down the road are you going to donate your paycheck to your first employer who according to your logic was the only reason you managed to start your career in the first place?
Actually OP you should just kill yourself. You owe your parents a life without having to take care of such a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16682397
Tl;dr your gf fucks niggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665848
Go to bed Mori, Connor needs fluffing

[Anonymous No.]

>>16674384
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>Implying HoloLive CAN stop pandering to unicorns
Anon that will NEVER happen, and if it did Hololive would go bankrupt. Do you want to know why?
Well hear me out. If every normal fan who watched Hololive normally donated $10, unicorns would be drowned out. But its chuubas like Rushia and Lamy who mess with the hearts of unicorns top the superchat donation charts because the average fan just won't donate, despite probably going to reddit or twitter or this very board to talk about how unicorns need to go away they do nothing to counteract it.

Donate to a normal chuuba that doesn't appeal to unicorns and maybe things will change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16683206
>normalfags
>donating

[Anonymous No.]

>>16683206
supporting evidence

[Anonymous No.]

>>16683624
The original context of that webm had nothing to do with unicorns though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16684170
Keep cope. Nijicock enabler

[Anonymous No.]

I wish unicorns would grow into architects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16684170
You think somebody donating that much money to Rushia doesn't care about male collabs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16684675
>Matsuri, Fubuki, and Towa in the webm
Clearly doesn't care that much. Could just enjoy the GFE without feeling threatened by another male interacting with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685044
Towa is in there exactly once, and received exactly $1.00 USD.

[Anonymous No.]

>it doesn't matter they are top percentile rich based almost solely on crowdfunding and angel investors! they can say "fuck off" with 0 economic repercussions i am sure
>just, uhh, just be an advertising space like any other streamer and give half your money to some cuckshed blue checkmark fag company like Twitch, with your 3m subs
>oh yes i know that only works if you are pewdiepie tier and everyone else is destitute and the CPM economy has been completely raped in a couple of years and has no future without the crowdfunders, well, uhh, just... it doesn't matter ok! fuck incels!

just concede OP is right and leave this index.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685146
Why is Towa such a stinky retard? I hate her so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685159
They didn't have issues dropping the chineses and the new viewers didn't have an issue with that, so they shouldn't have an issue with it when it's their turn to be dropped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685146
And if he cared that much she wouldn't be in there at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
> Normie fans are irrelevant, they will eat anything put on their plate and they will come and go with the tides of popular trends.

Ironically this is true.
Do you know why leftists dominate western media and entertainment? Because right wingers are the tolerant ones.
https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685325
And where is the money gonna come from once you drop them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685159
The OP doesn't just say it's economically best for them to appeal to unicorns and gachi, which is obviously true. It says they're MORALLY OBLIGATED to do so, which is insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685373
From the filtered fanbase, like how the chineses were filtered out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
Niji don't brand themselves as idol so the expectation from unicorn is not there. But holo did and successed from it. Holo girls have to carry the brand with that mission in mind, and women who use their status as holo girl for their own personal issue should not be tolerated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685407
In a way yeah, some schizoid might pull a perfect blue if they don't keep the virginity inspection angle in mind, and that would be immortal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660340
You can always watch Niji for that stuff, why it have to be holo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685407
Because you greynames,nijicock,normies doesnt trully care about the vtuber as a whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685479
Holo actually started off as hoelo

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685352
One United States Dollar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685433
Post your supacha history

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685433
Chinks were never big donors, retard. Arguably their biggest benefit was the free fanmade content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685479
Remember when Holomem were in that stream with DWU where she recommended sex with black men to them?
Good times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660577
And normies are just trend jumper, they come fast and go fast. If Yagoo want long lasting company he need delicated gachikoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685574
Okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16661324
It's cover's fault for touching the wolves in the first place. Imagine if they didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685742

The free fanmade contents were not negligible, as much as how they shit up the whole thing, the english clip and maymay scene à la mofumofu rap really went to shit after the chinese source imploded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
That's a lot of words to say "I'm a huge fucking loser and being reminded that not everyone else is a loser too makes me sad"

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685742
chinks literally kept them alive long enough to be noticed by white gachikoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662816
Just don't do it with the vtuber account jesus christ, use the personal account. Is that rocket science?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16686084
>implying people don't pay attention to roommate activities

[Anonymous No.]

>>16686084
>Is that rocket science?
For them? Yes. They keep blaming unicorn for digging up vtuber's past, but vtuber's unicorn don't care about it. Unlike anti-unicorn who can't separate persona and irl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16686084
>Za Hando

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662989
Why she has to bring male in, even though there will be backlash and she knows it? Why don't keep her own private life away from streaming? Don't think she can get away with anything just because she's more success than other vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

why are esl anons like this >>16686417?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16662989
If she doesn't want us, why she flirted with us in the first place? Why did she give us GFE? Why did she give us hope?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685950
Not negligible sure but not worth the hassle
Besides, now we have a ton of those animated clips so there was at least some give and take involved

[Anonymous No.]

>>16686672
unironically your kin's attention and money because you are all so stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665154
Rushia I kneel

[Anonymous No.]

>>16686841
and that is why it is considered ok to ruin her life
westcucks will never understand it

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665423
They did give some money, of course they should be mad about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>16686948
you shouldn't gatekeep being a sore loser

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666053
She streamed again, but without that persona. Stalker is just an excuse

[Anonymous No.]

>>16687039
plenty of idols have had their lives ruined over this
westerners are just used to women taking your money and doing nothing about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666889
Are you an idiot? Some holo girls are married and no one bat an eye since they keep their private life off stream

[Anonymous No.]

>this thread
do you mentally ill losers care this much about pixels moving on a screen
the oshi you obsess over doesn't know, care or love you, only your money

[Anonymous No.]

>>16687298
>no one bats an eye
because no one is fucking watching them
Gee I wonder why

[Anonymous No.]

>>16687414
Your cynicism will never break my belief in soul mates and true romantic love that stands the test of time

[Anonymous No.]

>>16670725
Wrong. See gacha games. They always love their whales the most. Most gacha game can't be popular with the mass forever they have to pander to whales to survive

[Anonymous No.]

>>16687485
your oshi has a secret bf and gets dicked on the regular

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685356
utterly delusional

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660110
Nope, unicorn just cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666889
>the second a female chuuba debuts, there's people digging into their personal accounts
Protip: every new hololive chuuba has been fully doxxed before their actual debut since gen4

[Anonymous No.]

>>16687414
but my oshi loves me and cares about me. She is not a whore like yours anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16687485
BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>16671336
You cuck have no standard. If there're no mentally unstable like that in this world, vtuber will never be thing in the first place. No sane people would give a bunch of money to women larping as anime girl. The business aim toward that kind of people to provide escapism as a step higher than anime don't you understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16674774
Yeah. HoloID is more of a place Yagoo can try new ideas on. They haven't allowed to be idol like JP senpais

[Anonymous No.]

>>16687737
reminder you will forever be alone IRL

[Anonymous No.]

>>16687716
ok paypig
keep sending those red superchats I'm sure she'll have sex with you

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone knows they are going to graduate one day and leave their fans alone. But while they are active, dedicating all their time and life to their fans, upholding the morale and respecting their fan's wishes by not interacting with males should be their priority. After they graduate they can all do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16683206
Fair point, holo didn't build on normalfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685159
This is how a business owner should think

[Anonymous No.]

>>16685325
They would have lost much more with new chinese regulation vtuber law

[Anonymous No.]

>normies
they're called normalfags you fucking LARPers

[Anonymous No.]

>>16687233

Westerns kill their exes at a higher rate than japs, they are just better at not seeing things that aren't actually there. Streamers, be it plain ass men and women, virtual idols, virtual sister wife, virtual virgin mom or whatever, are seen as entertainers first and foremost due to a cultural differences of the scene being pioneered by let's players circa 2008 instead of nips dilating their anuses to their viewers on niconiconi to a high degree with viewer interaction or whatever mental jap things they do

[Anonymous No.]

>>16686323
In that way people are justified to defend them as work-life is separated and you can turn unicorn against each other for digging too deep

[Anonymous No.]

>>16686409
Nah. Matuli keeps doing apex with men is what sealed the deal

[Anonymous No.]

>>16688477
How come her SC didn't change much since she plateaued and even jumped when she had those apex lootbox streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16687827
It's easier to admit you have nothing to debunk that

[Anonymous No.]

>>16660571
>I hate normalfags yet I only watch clips

[Anonymous No.]

>>16688600
I'm don't care about debunking you
I'm here to laugh at your obsessions with pixels on a screen

[Anonymous No.]

>>16688541
Cuz she is one of the last few holo pander to apex. Botan knows better and avoids it like a plague

[Anonymous No.]

>>16688429
Would it be like in Gundam unicorn where blacked fought bleached?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16688702
Pardon my interjection, she also pander to my dick. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks Mori you dumb cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16688677
Whatever hole you're filling in your life by ``laughing'' at the mentally ill is a lot sadder than some virgin being lonely.

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Well, the thing is, the argument of unicorns, and gachikois into a lower level makes perfect sense even outside of vtubing, I still don't understand how normie faggots say that collabing with males does not make a difference in streaming if they are both male or female, Humans are a highly social species, who had thrived best with locked, monogamous, straight relationships, Im not fucking quoting pol on this, but it's just simple biology, and if you put into factor living into close communities, "shipping" has been the norm, couples and individuals among human communities look for the most balanced "couples" between themselves, before all the revisionism & feminism bullshit most relationships where socially conducted by famillies who married their sons/daughters with something to gain in mind even into their respectives communities with the same purpose. My point into this, even if the social norms haved changed, even if our communities have enlarged and dispersed between reality and the digital world, those "shipping" instinct are intact, it's just that now are added into the social need called "gossip" without a further purpose,for this biological and social standpoint and almost as an imperative need, we can't watch people into any social interaction without trying to look for potencial relationships, and if, those individual seem compatible (which is usually fucking imprecise because participants and spectators in the internet usually overcompensate on how they interact to acomodate to the lack of a physical level of interaction, at most people just try to look more approachable and social, than they ussually are, which is norm into streaming) people push those individuals constantly into forming relationships.
My case is, just for putting 2 people collabing together, ships will arise, and unicorns will seethe, and, if most of your earnings come from this socially deranged people like that, it makes perfect sence to pander to them instead on normies, who will undoubtedly fuck with the relationship dinamics of the stream/streamers, and of course pushing back against unicorns/gachikois into this subjects because of a social need, not for the well being of the participants.

t. Autistic Gachikoi

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>>16689107
cope harder lmao
you desperate incels are easy pickings for (You)s

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>>16688677
>pixel on a screen

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>>16689311
monogamy by nature is actually a meme anon

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>>16689521
I'm happy for you, but that post wasn't talking about the caveman era. It was talking about how we got out of it.

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>>16683624
dude....
i spend less than that on warhammer.
what the fuck?

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>>16689749
mental illness and lack of real life interactons causes this

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>>16689311
well, it kinda makes sense if you are a pathetic subhuman, but is anyone who watches streams any different?

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>>16665154
it's pathetic but also funny how unicorns see Rushia as their last hope, what are you gonna do when she graduates? kys?

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>>16660110
>These are the people who showed up to every Sora stream encouraging her when she wanted to quit. These are the people who gave Subaru a new lease on life.
>These people fucking built hololive, they matter.
Correct. It should be obvious at this point that only die hard fans even if toxic will stick around and spend money while the normals won't. Every video game that's bombed over the plot being changed to appeal to others is the best example of this. As soon as you destroy the story/object for others it fails. Unicorns are the ones who will support the oshi. The rest will leave whenever.

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>>16690382
hopefully

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>>16690416

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>>16664990
Rushia is already the top earner, Hololive needs more girls like her since she has difficulty giving all her fans enough attention.

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>>16664990
Bro just stick to BLACKED if you want to watch boys and girls have fun together.

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>>16660110
Where did you get this pasta from?

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>>16687485
That's nice (and I mean that, not being sarcastic), but if you're looking for your soulmate among anime girls on youtube I think you're making a mistake.

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>>16660110
true true
anyone disagreeing is retarded in one way or another .

If (you) are not said "unicorn" at this point (you) are not really a fan .

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>>16689311
true and based

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>>16689311
based alligator

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>>16689311
Fuck i meant t. Autistic ESL gachikoi

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>>16687708
The only comeback you can muster pulling out of your ass because you can't deny it. Normies are sort of cancer that's why western game industry is a worthless dumptrash and Netflix can still get away even after pissing off normies recently with that cowboy bebop reboot and that lolita movie.

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>>16688677
People obsess over a lot of things. That's called having a passion. People like you are called soulless fag that latch onto trending topic like parasites and leave once it's no longer memeable. Imagine thinking you have a high ground. LOL.

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>>16665510
It's even funnier when the holostars cumrag matsuri apparently had a stalker break into her house on stream!!

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when are people going to realize unicorns are extremely dangerous and unstable subhumans?

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>>16693808
>break into her house
I thought the consensus was that this was an unplanned visit by someone she didn't want to acknowledge existing on stream?

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>>16694919
whatever happened there was a lot of lies

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>>16694919
Yeah it was me, i was gonna take matsuri on a date

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>>16695421
I hope you have fun, anon. Menhera is not my thing, and you must not lose your sanity that that small-titty bish.

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>>16694899
When someone they watch gets killed or raped. Probably not even then.

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>>16660110
>pretended to be in love with gura
>actually became in love with gura
>found old euro truck simulator video and got heartbroken
>the RFA yab happened
>gura acted like a lesbian 1 too many times
i kinda grew out of being a unicorn but i think collabing with a male and actually flirting with him would push me over the edge lol

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>>16695541
I'm no therapist bust she doesn't seem that bad of a menhera. She reminds me of a girl i dated. I'm sure you jusr need to be patient with her.

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>>16661571
it's bait. everyone knows that people don't watch vtubers for "healthy human interactions." if that was the case they wouldn't be watching anime avatars in the first place. the market for vtubers has spoken by making hololive the most popular.

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This thread kinda reminds me of everytime normalfags tried to raid this place in the old days. All these non-arguments, outrage and ad homs are like digitized Polaroids.

This board really is just r/Hololive with more lenient moderation, isn't it.

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>>16696513
I wouldn't know. I don't visit reddit.

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>>16687489
Ah, but you need to have a tide of thousands of guppies to catch a single whale. If those gachas just had 1000$ items that let you win everywhere nobody would've played it. You need to keep up that false hope, that you can compete, that you can be the one above all.

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>>16660110
dawg you posted cringe

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>>16666889
>The only way for unicorns to actually be happy will be when they start growing these girls in vats, keeping them in a vault the entire time they're an idol, and then putting them down when they're done.
Would make for an interesting show.