/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: Chuubas that fame has changed for the worse.

I'll start with an obvious one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
in what way

[Anonymous No.]

Subaru has never done anything wrong, why would her fans abandon her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
Not the first time I've seen someone claim this about Subaru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636438
the fuck you on about? learn to read

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
Show one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
Subaru is the carbon of hololive. She bonds with everyone with relative ease.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636479
>learn to read
I REFUSE

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636479
That anon not only read, but has concocted a full narrative of what will happen next all in his mind. You are weak to not understand his schizo greatness

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331

[Anonymous No.]

it's been several posts and OP still has not clarified. OP is a confirmed FAGGOT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636542
No, I read "that" as "whose" and thought OP was implying that Subaru was being forgotten. There is no rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

subaru hasnt changed with her popularity? the fuck you going on about?

[Anonymous No.]

she went from male-collaber to gachikoi. its technically a change for the better, even if you don't mind - it means she's putting focus on what her fans want.

i think the best example is aqua who seems to be an anti-magnet (and as a result) lowered the quantity of content.
in terms of attitude en/en2 maybe but they were like that from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
Ive only seen this opinion from EOPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636911
Why EOP hates her as she started pandering to them more?

[Anonymous No.]

Obvious one

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
Why ? Because she doesn't Collab with any niji male ? Like Miko or Suisei who also do the same ? Get fucked schizo. Your oshi will never be relevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>16637780
Beats me, just seems to be a weird opinion from trolls trying to get (you)s
Many JP fans love Subaru and watching her grow and work hard as she does is like a fairy tale, I'd say overtime she's only gotten better as an entertainer

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
surely you just clicked the wrong file before hitting post... surely...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16637780
You didn't read or watch last chapter Boruto ? Can't blame you. Raikage confirmed as Gay.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this about Maimoto again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
>one of the most recognized hololive membres
>she is also the oshi of half of hololive members
>zatsudans that reach 30k viewers
she is doing better than ever and her fame is untouched, keep seething

[Anonymous No.]

if you're gonna bait at least pick someone convincing

[Anonymous No.]

>>16637951
Yes. Some EOP surprised why Subaru doesn't Collab with Maimoto again. Like why SHE DOESN'T COLLAB WITH MALE SO I CAN FUEL MY SCHIZO RAMBLE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636911
She only has EOP fans, so that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

is OP the maimoto/subaru schizo?
or are you just some shitposter again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16637989
OP isn't saying she's not doing well, they're saying BECAUSE of this insane popularity it's made her insufferable to watch, in collabs especially. I genuinely agree with OP.

To answer you OP, I'd unironically say Mori. Not only because of recent events but just in general. Like Subaru, things just feel more calculated and manipulative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
Thank you, luna.
Because of you, now subaru is no longer collab with m*le.
Your tongue really work like charm.
I hope you'll do the same to holox and prevent them to collab with m*le.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636360

In that she's adopted an extremely fake and forced personality in order to appeal to a gachikoi paypig audience, and has deliberately done so in order to extract more money from lonely virgins.

And yes, you can make the argument that every vtuber is fake to some degree and you'd be absolutely correct, but you can literally see the evolution of Subaru into the very meticulously calculated "Idol" persona right before your very eyes, you just need to go back a few months into her archives.

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>>16636331
qrd on what she did?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636360
Cut connection with Maimoto. That's why OP is mad cuz he's a nijinigger. Recent Ui 3d suba showed up and not Maimoto made him seethe. You know OP also a faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>16638792
This is next level EOPcope

[Anonymous No.]

>>16638906
Schizo mentally meltdown after Raikage confirmed as Gay in Boruto

[Anonymous No.]

>>16638909
Let's all think about this realistically.
If maimoto to appear on subaru/ui stream now. Most of subaru/ui new fans will attack maimoto and it will hurt his stream, all of them know this.
Did you really think subaru/ui will just cut connection like that? Ui still put his voice on the song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
>changed
She just showed her real personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16638356
>it's made her insufferable to watch, in collabs especially. I genuinely agree with OP.
In what way? I've not noticed anything drastically different. Try to be specific.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639061
They did that to stop the raikage x hinata lewdness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636713
it's only changed subaru for the worse if you don't like gachikoi, which might be the case for OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639367
>kishimoto saw that narusaku mutts paying people to make raikage ntr doujins
>publicly announced that raikage is gay
Kishimoto the no. 1 naruhina shipper.
The dude literally had his wife mad at him because she think sakura will ended up with naruto.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639047
You calling that cope is cope. OP is right. Subaru is just as manipulative and exploitative as Chloe, but at least Chloe is obviously doing it and it's often done ironically as a joke because it's so heavy-handed. Subaru's persona is disarming and just as effective on the paypigs, because they don't even realise she's doing it. She never used to be like this until she got big.

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>>16639566
>>16638792
Can you point out some examples of this behavior? I only see her in collabs and I don't see any difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639163
Nijinigger gonna mad. They care not about logic or gachikoi come with a price

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639237
Everything is for the clips. She's obsessed with clips of herself, she's obsessed with her viewers behaviour (she stalks them like a 2view which is strange considering her size) and any tiny thing that happens with the people she's with she responds with constant clip-bait screaming and manages to turn it into a situation where she's getting bullied. It's painful to watch now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16638909
Why are nijibeggars like this. Having that faggot continued his chuuba career thanks to subaru is already enough for your nigger. Dont try to leech more faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639534
Isn't Kishimoto not involved in Boruto?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639692
He is more involved with boruto after samurai 8 got axed.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this a schizo thread or something?Subaru is same as always. In fact I'd say she's more real nowadays than back when she started. She was obviously faking her voice back then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639745
>Is this a schizo thread or something?
Ding ding ding ding ding.

[Anonymous No.]

aw sweet>>16639779

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639672
>painful to watch
everything you've said has outed you as a clipnigger eop who has never ever watched a stream of anyone ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639619
They can’t. Most they’ll say is that she egosearches a lot, but she’s mentioned doing that since like her 5th everstream. She’s got fantastic memory for names though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639745
Can't handle your oshi who you thought was universally loved finally getting some criticism? She clearly got caught up in egosurfing and it has changed her for the worse. I still think she deserves her fame because she's entertaining, hard-working and talented, but the vibe she gives off nowadays is calculating and very self-aware, so the charm that was once there is now gone.

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>>16639998
She's not even my oshi you absolute mongoloid. But whenever I catch a stream or clip of hers she's the same as always. Meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639878
it's also shit that's clipped
so clipfags clip less than 1% of her content and clipniggers like that poster say that's all she does lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639619
She stopped talking about males. She shits out more idol content and now don't like people calling her boyish. This is basic shit complaints in her thread. Reps nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16640768
The funny part is there’s clips of her talking about how she’s avoiding pandering to factions within the fandom bit it’s JAPANESE clips, untranslated. Literally only people who don’t watch her or angry eops

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>>16638792
I remember her promising to her fans that she will be more idol like after they literally asked for it. She said that she will work very hard on it and improve her singing, dancing, etc. just to be the best idol to her fans. You explanation looks like she is an evil mastermind manipulator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16640825
all of these are good things

[Anonymous No.]

>>16640768
>>16640983
Have fun paying some random Japanese woman you'll never meet to screech every time a pixel changes color in a game for EOP clipbait.

dB ∝ entertainment

[Anonymous No.]

>>16641258
That was like early 2020, there’s no way retards like >>16641545 would know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16641366
God I hate unicorns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16640983
can you link any of those JP clips?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
How could she change for the worst? Reddit Duck has always been bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636541
I don’t watch this trashbag. Whats makes her so different now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
Why is she so perfect. How did Shigure Ui give birth to such perfection

[Anonymous No.]

>>16641737
Looking at reddit it seems they're 100% eop clipfags, proven by their fawning all ver ayame because of a handful of clips.
I don't how duck is reddit since she's jp. All of EN however? Yeah perhaps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16641635
this but with cucks

[Anonymous No.]

Now to get back in topic:

Feesh

[Anonymous No.]

>>16641651
https://youtu.be/yf0n-IGSvBg
Can’t find theother ome but it should be around 1:40:00 https://youtu.be/63In3FNJXqE
Phone posting is hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>16642503
>Phone posting is hard
youre doing a great job

[Anonymous No.]

>>16638792
>In that she's adopted an extremely fake and forced personality in order to appeal to a gachikoi paypig audience, and has deliberately done so in order to extract more money from lonely virgins.
What the fuck is this bullshit lol. You're typing that as if Subaru acts like Rushia or Lamy on stream now who tells her chat how much she loves them and does literal girlfriend ASMR.
No, Subaru is still the same generic game-streaming and zatsudan chuuba who barely does any pandering. Please tell me what's the fucking difference between her personality in this stream right now and this other stream from 2 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_eoDs7dINQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4wouNP9EC8
I'm sure you're just mad about 1% of her old content aka male collabs not being a thing anymore.

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>>16639163
Are you retarded? Most of the akasupas Subaru got from her costume reveal were saying "Are you looking Maimoto?" Also Subaru's fanbase is like 1% unicorns nobody gives a fuck if she collabs with a male.

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>>16641744
She's becoming Ayame 2.0 with how little she streams. She doesn't stream as much as Gen 6 and NijiEN. Gura doesn't have burnout mitigation and constantly goes onto feedback loops of burnouts. Gura was supposed to stream yesterday but she "forgot" about it.

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>>16643590
Nijien are literal whos. They have to actually try to be relevant.
Gura is THE vtuber right now. She could just fart into the mic for 3 seconds and people will consider it kino.
Underdogs has incentives to try harder than most and overwhelming success will make most prople grow complacent.

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>>16643590
>subaru listening to mio's tarot card reading and not trying to push herself to stream more than 4 times a week is apparently ayame level.
here's a (you) for getting me to reply

>captcha: R8PWR

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>>16641744
She's started getting very cocky in the past few months. And not in a good way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16637823
ding ding ding ding ding

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>>16644126
>Gura is THE vtuber right now.
The JP don't even acknowledge Gura's existence unless if she's literally staring right at their faces (in a game) and/or the biggest elephant in the room when it came to discussing certain topics. When she got 4th place in Mario cart, nobody cared. When they were talking about lolis, they would rather refer to Shion, even though Gura tried so hard to be the most noticeable loli baba out there. I'm not sure if there's tension between HoloJP vtubers and Gura's circle, but it feels like there's a divide. They wouldn't even do a collab with Gura, even though it's supposed to bring in more viewers. Even Japanese mass comyu is more noticing of Gura than any of the HoloJP at all.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really agree with OPs assessment but
>Subatomos complaining about EOPs and clipwatchers
The fucking irony rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>16644229
He’s talking about gura anon… and Subaru normally streams 6 days a week

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
Marine schizo? Long time no see, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>16644791
Dejavu, I've seen this narrative before
>4th
4th HAHAHAHA Towa at least brought her up despite being 4th
If she wasn't Gura who gives a shit about 4th besides a "zannen" comment
While I have no idea what the lolibaba thing you're referring to, it's easy to understand the lack of collabs
Gura herself streams infrequently, add the language barrier to that and there you have it. It's not like JPs collabs with EN all the time as well
And finally not all Holos are numberfags, they collab with people they are close to/they want not the one that brings the biggest numbers. Gura could triple her subs right now and the situation will not change

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>>16644791
That "divide" is because JPs don't speak english and Gura doesn't speak japanese so they barely know anything about her.
You think it's a coincidence that the ENs that JP interacts with the most are Kiara and nowadays Irys and Bae too? They can talk to each other like normal adults instead of using toddler level english and Google Translate.
When Marine and Aqua had that collab with Gura and Ina they seemed to have no idea what Gura is like at all, except that she is the cute shark girl that can sing and says "a".
This applies to other ENs like Ame too. Miko seems to love her a lot but only knows her as the sexy blonde foreign girl.

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>>16640983
>she’s avoiding pandering to factions within the fandom
To the extent that's she's reluctant to release merch that everybody knows will sell well because she doesn't want to pit the factions against each other.
But no op and niggers like him go
>zomg money changed her!!!1
seanog clipfags.

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>>16638792

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>>16643363
>Also Subaru's fanbase is like 1% unicorns nobody gives a fuck if she collabs with a male
dirty EOP, you know that her gachis wouldn't like it, stop pretending it is otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
>obvious one
Obvious bait is obvious. The fact that so many took it just shows how much tourist and newfags have infested this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16645945
It's not bait if enough dumb faggots start believing it. Then the bait stops being bait and is just a fag with a shit take.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
she's my favorite kaigai whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>16643363
Dude you're retarded https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube_20210828/superchat/ByESAQZnQXk.html
1! ONE! 一!Superchat mentions maimoto, and it's green

[Anonymous No.]

>>16643363
>Subaru's fanbase is like 1% unicorns
Too bad she wants to pander to that 1%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16641822
I mean is not like her streams are boring, objectively she performs very well and is consistent in both as streamer and idol, but a lot of her soul has been lost for a while no matter how cute whe acts

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>>16636331
when did Maimoto's name become a no-no thing in Shuba streams? I don't even remember when was the last time Subaru mentioned him
I do remember a Sausage Legends stream last year (or maybe late 2020) when a viewer joined the room with "Maimoto" as nickname and Subaru censored it

Also Subaru did survey her viewers and most of them aren't gachikois so I assume this is why she's trying to appeal more to unicorns kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636438
she betrayed maimoto, he helped her in her darkest 2view moments. now she backstabbed him and never collabed again because of unicorns

[Anonymous No.]

>>16655550
other way around fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>16638792
>people trying to change for the better and improve
>they just adopted extremely fake and forced personality
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>16645445
>Miko seems to love her a lot but only knows her as the sexy blonde foreign girl
She did say Ame was funny and good at games so I think she's watched at least a few streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16637926
No… say it ain’t so…

[Anonymous No.]

>>16639061
Source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16641822
You can thank me for donating that seed, son

[Anonymous No.]

>>16661456
there is no source fag that anon was projecting his and everyone's disappointment if they actually followed dogshit boruto

[Anonymous No.]

>>16659058
Maimoto was never a 2 view, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16638792
Meds anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
subaru is literally the mildest in this regard, you could have picked literally any other chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

This maimoto seethe makes no sense to me, do you guys really think she ghosted him?

She only stopped collabing with him to maximize her income and the two probably still hangout outside of streaming, hell, he probably encouraged her to do it as he knows how much money she would be making.

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>>16665369
What are you smoking? Subaru completely changed her character in order to get more popular.
>you could have picked literally any other chuuba
Like who? The only one who comes to mind is Miko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16665887
Changing collab partners does not mean changing her character

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666077
I didn't mention anything about collab partners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16659058
Fucking newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
If anything Subaru has gotten better and better through time and built herself up to slowly but eventually establish herself as a pillar of Hololive.
Right now it's mainly Fubuki, Sora and Mio fulfilling that role but Subaru, Botan and Korone are the closest to reaching them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16666530
Then please explain how Subaru completely changed her character, without complaining about muh male collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16638792
EOP.
go watch vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>16668435
She used to be very outgoing and tried to play out the character she was hired for. She actually used to be somewhat tomboyish. Male collabs are what really showcased her personality at the time. She was practically "one of the guys".
She started to change somewhere around late 2020. She practically abandoned her original design and started to act more feminine. That's also when she became a massive numberfag with the constant ego searching and such.
Just go and watch some of her older videos. She's a completely different person now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636331
I love how Subaru's design encapsulates her early character perfectly. Like a deer in the headlights. 'Where am I? What am I doing? I have no idea what's going on!'