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Previously >>16264533

>> No.16276743

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.16276802

There are 3 tiers of difficulty for EN:
1) Streaming on Youtube during EN timeslot - Hard
2) Streaming on Twitch during JP Timeslot - Medium
3) Streaming on Twitch during EN timeslot - Medium
4) Streaming on Youtube during JP timeslot - Easy
5) Streaming on Youtube during JP timeslot when you're a male british vtuber - Tutorial

>> No.16276805

https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1481087390374858753

>I'm starting 1 hour late cuz there's Pekora-paisen's birthday Live

I-IOFI?! BUT THE ID OVERLAPS...

>> No.16276868

>>16276805
So there's no internal scheduling system then?

>> No.16276894

>>16276805
The alien fears the usagichildren army

>> No.16276921
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16276921

Before this thread gets started here is an important reminder. Following these rules will ensure thread quality and will make the thread a more enjoyable place for everybody.

>> No.16276931
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>>16276805

>> No.16276963

>>16276805
why now? Iofi always overlap jp's event or anniv
moona threatened her?

>> No.16276990
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20k

>> No.16277028

>>16276990
>twitch numbers
The equivalent of monopoly money

>> No.16277061

>>16276990
>needed holo guests to reach 20k
lmao

>> No.16277074

>>16276990
>kek
Congrats, I guess?

>> No.16277137

>>16275576
I remember people saying that Millie cunny will mog Gura cunny
But once everyone found out the Niji's roommates, people started pushing Enna as a Gura killer because she was the "better singer"

>> No.16277146

I'll say it and I'll say it again. Twitch vtubers and any discussion of their numbers needs to be banned from this thread.

>>16277028 offered the perfect comparison. Twitch numbers are the monopoly money of numbers.

>> No.16277180

>>16277061
Which Holos, anon? I'm not watching the stream.

>> No.16277200

>>16277180
ollie and callie

>> No.16277237

>>16277137
Cunny is nice but the gura killer curse iss stronger

>> No.16277245

>>16277180
She was watching Calli earlier

>> No.16277249

>>16277137
The Gura killer curse it real. Can we call Pekora the Gura killer and ruin her numbers?

>> No.16277253

>>16277200
Oh, the usual suspects. I hope they get aids.

>> No.16277286

>>16277137
Turns out that cunny was never a buff after all, Gura is just that strong.

>> No.16277292

>>16276990
why do vwhorejos debut new costumed every other week? how does this not annoy their fans? i stopped watching miko after she got rid of the dragon quest slime mouth

>> No.16277333

>>16276868
https://schedule.hololive.tv/
pretty sure they dont have anything else even internally

>> No.16277517

>>16276963
Moona & Reine off-collab also moved from 21 JST to 23 JST on Reine's schedule... guess Moona wants to watch Pekora 3D live first.

>> No.16277528

>>16276990
E-celeb collab no 20k
Put hololive/leeching 20k get.

Hahahaha!

>> No.16277553

>>16276921
Rent free

>> No.16277571

>>16277517
maybe they'll have moona be a background video and they can sing turing love

>> No.16277575

>>16277292
>why do vwhorejos debut new costumed every other week? how does this not annoy their fans?
It just works. Outfit debuts are always a buff it's logical to think there be massive diminishing returns but, in reality, 'nope' SHINY NEW THING

>> No.16277590

>>16277200
Jesus fuck, why is it always these 2 ahhhh
I can give Callie a pass because she feels like she owes "smaller" content creators a boost because "she got lucky to be in Hololive" but Ollie has no reason to collab with whores

>> No.16277682
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16277682

>Ironmouse
>birthday stream
>guest in hand
>Iromouse crying hysterically
23k now
Her 'friends' do nothing but talk about IMs health. Being complete downers on a birthday.

>> No.16277800

>>16277590
>Ollie has no reason to collab with whores
Birds of a feather and all that

>> No.16277810
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Oh nice, stream likes on holo.poi

>> No.16277901

>>16277590
Iron mouse is good though

>> No.16277935

>>16277682
she made that her most distinguished trait.
that all her fault.

>> No.16277942

>>16277682
>Ironmouse stream pic
>Connor is in it
Does she ever have any streams without this dickweed appearing?

>> No.16277966

>>16277590
Anon? Mori didnt visited because of owing to smaller content creators, is more as a thanks for kind of teaching her how to be more grateful to her fans so she kind of owes that to mouse, not to mention she is the only vshojo member mori wants to collab with

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16277985

Why can't Holobronies just let /vsj+/ numberfag in peace? Do we really need to get into an argument all the fucking time?

>> No.16278012

>>16277942
mousey is connor accesory any clip with mousey is 90% chance of have him included.
>>16277985
>/vsj+/
nigga this is numbers.

>> No.16278060

>>16277985
Yes

>> No.16278076

>>16278012
I came from /vsj+/ to numberfag. Something wrong with that?

>> No.16278089
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16278089

EMPEROR HAL, Savior of Numbers, First of merise, Lord of Tournaments, Man of Shibuya, Provider of Computers, Slayer of Collab Bans, Predator of Apex, Betrayer King of Indies, Shota and Ikemen Alike...
Thank you for saving us, I kneel

>> No.16278110

>>16277966
All I'm saying is I "understand" why Mori collabs with other smaller content creators because she thinks she has to self-flagellate as punishment for "being successful in Hololive". She has said as much multiple times by her own accord.

What I'm saying is Ollie has no reason to branch out and I hope management reigns her in and stops other people/agencies from leeching off of the Hololive brand , with Ollie being the easiest one to get collabs with.

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>>16278076
Yes

>> No.16278163

>>16278076
Your chuubas are on Twitch, anon. It's hard to compare them with the rest of the vtubers we discuss here.
Did you bring any numbers for us?

>> No.16278178

>>16278110
ID management won't reel her in. She'll have to yab big enough to get the main office involved for her to stop

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>>16278130
Okay have a nice day.

>> No.16278210

>>16278076
then start comapring them between the other vtubers on twitch rather than youtube numbers.
which wont happend becsue
1.only vshoujo gets numebrs there so you will be bullying them
2.-their reach out of twitch has become none existsant in the last months since all of vs have almsot abandoned their yt channels.

>> No.16278213

>>16278110
>What I'm saying is Ollie has no reason to branch out
Anon that's literally her shtick and how she got more popular than Moona. It's like the trash taste thing all over again where people confuse "what they don't like" with "what doesn't work", which is fine in other threads but not in the holy numbers thread

>> No.16278223

>>16277985
sorry sir this is a tribalism thread for hololive and nijisanji on youtube, go start a twitch# thread so you can shit on the indies and shit that vsj mogs on the daily on your website. thanks.

>> No.16278224
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16278224

Why there's vshojo numbers? the cull is over your services aren't necessary anymore

>> No.16278245

Ugh. What's happening with the NijiEN girls?
Barely anyone posts about them anymore. Are they really destined to become lower tiers compared to the males?

>> No.16278246

>>16277286
she's not cunny. even unbraided or shorthair, still can't qualify

>> No.16278279

>>16278245
>Are they really destined to become lower tiers compared to the males?
yes? or at least to 2 of them i see the other 3 just raching as low as the other females

>> No.16278281

>>16278163
You can't penalize them just because Twitch is a superior platform. Numbers are numbers

>> No.16278288

>>16278076
make a thread about Twitch numberfagging...Youtube & Twitch numbers are not comparable.

>> No.16278311

>>16278245
All the Selenniggers moved on to sucking on mystia's dick ever since he surpassed Selen's numbers

>> No.16278312

>>16278245
NijiEN males are more interesting to look like in a numbers perspective, because at least 2 of them went against all of this thread's expectations, so their future growth/recline will be documented with passion.

>> No.16278318

>>16278245
the same reason nobody talks about girls like Aki/Roboco and shit in this thread. The bottom tier of the companys are irrelevant when it comes to numbers. Midtiers get mentions and top tiers are the desired discussion. But Mysta and Vox are so far above the Niji girls theres just no point, its like "wow Selen almost beat Sanas average today" wow.

>> No.16278330

>>16278281
Well then fuck you.

>> No.16278368

>>16278213
> that's literally her shtick
That's the fucking problem.
She'd rather collab with people outside the company and thirst over 3D males over people in Hololive, thinking it'll boost her numbers when the two most popular Holo chuubas (heck, Chuubas in general) don't even collab other people much less with people in their own gen.

>> No.16278379

>>16278089
Are numbers normal now? Elira at 3.8k, Lain at 1.9k and Lamy at 4.2k (superchat time currently, i think)

>> No.16278402

>>16278288
Numbers in twitch are different than YouTube. I hate to admit it, but I can't take vshoujo numbers seriously

>> No.16278414

>>16278288
>>16278210
Last time I checked, this thread wasn't a youtube only numbers thread. Did you niggers eve read what I posted? I guess "peace" doesn't exist in yout head.

>> No.16278427

>The Elira and Rosemi collab is close to hit 4k
>Elira straight up begging on a pinned comment to sub to Rosemi
Even on the redemption arc...wosemi...

>> No.16278434

>>16278368
Except that it does boost her numbers. This is the numbers thread, not the bitch about what you don't like thread

>> No.16278455

>>16278288
>Stream on inferior platform
>Noooo it's unfair!
Not my problem

>> No.16278472

>>16278427
Karma is a bitch ain't it?

>> No.16278502

>>16278414
This is the VOD cope thread. It's where we cope over Gura having shitty CCV

>> No.16278501

>>16278434
>boosts her numbers
>can't even beat Gura or Pekora during CCVid
LOL

>> No.16278505

>>16278414
you cant compare twitcth and youtube numbers

you need to compare each VS between them since they dont have comeptititon and vtubing is almost dead on the west ont witcth.

>> No.16278513

>>16278434
>not the bitch about what you don't like thread
You should've let the schizo cry by himself instead of entertaining him.
Talking to the mentally ill through the internet doesn't work.

>> No.16278520

>>16278245
more like anyone else other than Mysta deserves to be in the trashcan right now.

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>>16278089
Emperor bros?

>> No.16278527

>>16278402
You have a point. Holo and Niji CCV are easier to compare since they are on the same platform and may or may not receive the same cull

>> No.16278535

>>16278213
She still hasnt gone past moona in subs and she averages less vod views and stream viewers. Just last 8 vods Moona 750k, ollie 586k and if i were to add the next 4 i get to add a 1.5 million view cover by moona. Yes ollie is successful for an ID but moona is still queen. because she gained fans inside of Hololive.

>> No.16278547

>>16278414
Maybe we need to add Bilibili numbers too

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like clockwork. you'd think people will stop caring after 3M but it still keeps going

>> No.16278591

>>16278368
but she isnt them, she doesnt have the natural strength they do, so she uses any advantages she can get where she can. as much as people hate to admit it collabing with ecelebs does indeed boost your ass with people from those circles. The fucking Hololive subreddit which is one of the largest vtuber communities has insane overlap with TrashTaste so collabs between them should in theory be a natural boost to either since there is some overlap of interests between the groups at least outside of this website.

>> No.16278600

>>16278472
what happened to wosemi? is this just her PL shit jumping ship?

>> No.16278613

Any FPSfags can elaborate on why Ratna's Apex stream is popping off?
She's about to get 10k when her usual Apex numbers were like half of that before.

>> No.16278626

>>16278502
Fuck off. People were using the VOD cope for Pekora when people saw that Fubuki had better CCV during the CCVID era.

>> No.16278683

>>16278600
Rosemi sabotaged Nijisanji's closest rival before joining them.

>> No.16278690

>>16278535
to succeed as an ID you have to be hated by fellow Indogs.

>> No.16278699

>>16278548
Yep she's getting 4 million this year for sure more fast if she releases a new original

>> No.16278709

>>16278548
How does she have nearly 4M subs and yet its barely showing in her numbers. Are normie parents just looking at the cute shark icon and sub for their babies?

>> No.16278724

>>16278414
youtube numbers and twitch numbers count ccv too differently, youtube culls aggressively and twitch tries to inflate them as much as possible.

it would be like trying to use the CCVID numbers to compare to anything outside of that period, it's at best incredilby misguided and likely insincere

>> No.16278727

>>16278613
is a comebac to apex

>> No.16278732

>>16278613
Ratna just recently came back from a break I believe.

>> No.16278775

>>16278709
A few factors.

1.Charming and has a light GFE vibe for viewers so those who do end up watching get more attached.

2.Loli so pedos just randomly sub

3.Clip watchers sub to show "support" but don't watch streams, there is a portion in all holos of this but its most pronounced here because she is the most clipped

>> No.16278780

>>16278613

It's her first time playing after coming back from her 3 month health break

>> No.16278798

>>16278505
Did I say anything about comparison? I just wanna post my oishi's numbers in peace without some rabid holobronies jumping on me like a pack of hungry street dogs. Your reading and spelling comprehension is lacking my nigga.

>> No.16278842

>>16278547
I mean what's stopping you from posting them? Meidos /here/ won't ban you for that.

>> No.16278849
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>>16278780

Also, 10k get!

>> No.16278869

>>16278434
> Except that it does boost her numbers.
Does it ? Collabing with literal who tank her CCV average while one good collab with an EN can push her into mid tier.

>> No.16278892

>>16278709
She has a lot of subs from clipwatchers or those who got exposed to her fan animations.

There's also a portion who are only subbed for her karaoke content.

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Anons, what site is this?
Not Ikioi coz PDP is not listed there

>> No.16278894

>>16278709
I still believe Reflect is a bad song and that 10M+ views is just from her having 3M subs. I does has it's merits.

>> No.16278896

oh shit a holoen actually streaming today, and it's the vsinger again
jesus christ

>> No.16278907

>>16278842
This is the numbers thread, not a tribal fagging thread.

>> No.16278936

>>16278907
lol

>> No.16278941

>>16278798
then lurk more you fucking baboon if you think you can post just numbers without any context or reason witout people tearing you apart.
that is why we dont bring twitch numbers they have no point of comparision outside themselves so unless you start comapring nyanners, vei, mousey to the other 3 vs girls or orbiters you are wasting your time.

>> No.16278950

>>16278798
The solution is simple, make your own thread

>> No.16278965

>>16278896
Irys mogging most of EN as a streamer will never stop being funny. It's still hard to believe how lazy the lower half of EN is.

>> No.16278979

>>16278798
Fuck off, nijinigger. Stop making my oshis look bad.

>> No.16278985

>>16278798
>post my oishi's numbers in peace
lmao look at this fag, don't come to the numbers thread if you aren't ready to get shit on

>> No.16278990

>>16278907
>tribalfagging.
What? I was asking what's stopping you from posting Bilibili's numbers?

>> No.16278993

>>16278896
kronini...

>> No.16279003

>>16278521
>became the lightbringer during /#/‘s darkest weeks
It was the only way to make Susan kneel to the Emperor — to become her master and god

>> No.16279036

>>16278993
>frostpunk
christ

>> No.16279053

>>16278709
if you venture out of vtuber world theres a lot of...not exactly normalfags, but terminally online people who dont watch streams who subbed to her and know next to nothing about hololive beyond "i watch clips sometime"

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manjisanji....

>> No.16279063

>>16278775
>loli buff
gura's the only cunny that absolutely destroys her genmates in most areas numberswise, Millie's pretty weak, Shion's average in her gen, Rushia's only amazing stat is SCs, wagahai is trades blows with orca, none of them are even number one in subs in their gen

>> No.16279083

>>16278893
>>16278709
What do you mean?
Gura is a top performing holo, her views only beaten by Pekor who streams twice as much and Mori+Suisei who spammed songs

>> No.16279087

>>16278798
On the off chance you're being sincere, there's a schizo that only posts their numbers here to shit on Holos and then starts samefagging the entire thread.

>> No.16279124

>>16278798
You piece of whorejo shitter, people post numbers here because they want to discuss numbers, not to post them in "peace". You lack the comprehension to even understand the thread's purpose in the first place. Go post in whorejo thread if you want peace, /#/ is for discussion

>> No.16279148

>>16279124
>/#/ is for discussion
for tribalfagging and schizoposting.

>> No.16279154

>>16278941
>>16278979
>>16278985
Then should we just change the name and theme of the thread to tribalfagging thread? Seems to be a much more accurate theme than numberfagging.

>> No.16279158

>>16279063
There are a lot of closet lolicons in the west and Gura being big legitimizes it in a way, in fact the sheer spread of uohhhh posting has given an irony shield to it. But I think overall 3 is the most important there, she gets clipped by Chinese/Korean/Spanish/Japanese translators, just like how Sushi/Tengoku single handedly boosted Subaru to relevance Gura has a large farm of clippers who focus mostly on her.

>> No.16279177

>>16279148
/#/ is unironically /GlobalGlobal/

>> No.16279202

>>16278965
It's particularly shocking coming from Western streaming culture and them not having the same excuses as JPs in terms of off-screen activities like dance lessons

>> No.16279205

>>16279148
Yes, discussion nevertheless. Most definitely not for "peace"

>> No.16279211

>>16278965
Somehow everybody fears to stream at US prime time. Maybe they don't want to fight against Gura but Gura just streams somewhat rarely and nobody wants to use that timeslot

>> No.16279216

>>16279083
They have half her sub count anon. I'm just expecting her to have at least Jun levels of numbers.

>> No.16279233

>>16279158
Basically, all the EOP lolicons are already under Gura's hold, and they ain't leaving.

She's pretty much the perfect EN loli. I don't know anybody else who can play to the bratty shark loli kayfabe as well as she does.

>> No.16279239

>>16279154
whats the fucking point of a numbers thread if not for tribalfagging
what, are you just gonna look at them? and say "cool, numbers"?

>> No.16279273

>>16279211
The first Holo chuuba to figure out that they can consistently stream at Gura's timeslot when Gura ain't streaming is gonna get big numbers.

>> No.16279274

Numbers prediction?
https://youtu.be/nMfdtjX8rCg

>> No.16279298

>>16276805
counter-programming bros... I thought lofi was the designated holo to watch if you don't like the current anniv/bday/outfit reveal

>> No.16279299

>>16278965
I hope the eventual Gen 3 ends up being a powerhouse and makes Gen 2 feel embarrassed for doing nothing on their year in the spotlight.

>> No.16279304

>>16278893
It's userlocal

>> No.16279336

>>16279216
She's not a strong enough streamer to retain so many people. She has a lot of weaknesses (collabs, interacting with chat, chatting).

>> No.16279350

>>16277985
i have no respect for whores who need to suck LSF dick to get big numbers

>> No.16279356

>>16279298
Management found out that there's a rrat that they hate Pekora. So they stopped everyone from streaming at the same time as Pekora's big day.

>> No.16279391

>>16279274
Big big

>> No.16279394

>holoniggers say numbers = quality
>nijisanji male releases
>holoniggers have no argument left
>start blatantly tribalfagging
they're devolving

>> No.16279393

>>16279211
didnt Sana used to stream this slot, but Gura happened to overlap her a bunch during that.

>> No.16279402

>>16279158
I think people underestimate her singer buff more than her loli buff, from what I've seen she's the only holo that has multiple singing clips that are over a million views, some of them even has 2 million views even after her most popular song clipper got nuked

>> No.16279411

>>16279216
Jun's fans are in one timezone.

Inb4 timezone cope.

I don't know about Jun's VODs though. How do they compare?

>> No.16279429

>>16279273
And that's the problem. Gura streams like she wants to be. It's hard to create a schedule like that. Honestly, it's easier to create a schedule with Pekora because she always streams and when she didn't, she will announced that

>> No.16279444

>>16279216
Her subs isn't focused on one place so ccv takes a hit but those sub numbers definitely shows on views.

>> No.16279459

>>16279216
I'm expecting you to not be a faggot, yet here we are...

The internet doesn't work the way you think it does.

>> No.16279486

>>16278798
>I just wanna post my oishi's numbers in peace without some rabid holobronies jumping on me.
A BD+Outfit reveal+Hololive call-in stream that can barely break 20k, you were asking for it, now fuck off to your discord.

>> No.16279487

>>16279216
Maybe she does?
Tell Gura to stream so we know the real number post CCVID

>> No.16279492

>>16279036
she really doesn't give a fuck

>> No.16279493

>>16279394
2/10 anon. try again n 2~3 hours

>> No.16279495

>>16279393
yeah
>>16279394
saying this before the outfits seems like abait for grudgeposting.

>> No.16279498

>>16279402
I should have mentioned it but I would say all the Karaoke's count as clips in a way. If you added up all the views from clips + karaokes Gura has the most by far which easily explains her sub count. And people so often sub to channels just to show support over liking a video or aspect of a person. You can click on a random commenter and find hundreds of subs and they likely watch few if any.

>> No.16279511

>>16279411
>1M views on every stream in a week
They compare pretty badly

>> No.16279530

>>16278896
>singing and streaming
Irys learned from Suisei instead of AZKi, which is great, but she slept during the part about effectively shilling your songs

>> No.16279582

Speaking of twitch vs youtube, was anyone paying attention when Pikamee transitioned to twitch? did she see a noticable drop from switching platforms?

>> No.16279614

>>16279530
Wouldn't be surprised if it's management restricting things like with the covers on her debut month (they did not allow her to hype them).
Could also be that she doesn't feel as motivated to shill them because she's not funding or writing the songs.

>> No.16279652

>>16279582
she has better numbers on Twitch than on YouTube which pretty much confirms that YouTube is fucking up the numbers even without CCVID or any obvious fuckups since her main platform is performing marginally worse than her secondary platform

>> No.16279661

>>16279350
Something i notice of the LSF crowd is that they fucking hate LSF streamer despite watching them every day, so they end up with a community of streamer who farm drama and viewer who wait for drama just to shit on them

>> No.16279663

>16279394
this is like the weirdest bait ive ever seen because it actually sounds like gibberish the first time you read it

>> No.16279687

>>16279582
She gets 2K-2.5K on Twitch, I dunno about her Youtube numbers tho.

>> No.16279718

>>16279661
They're addicted to drama.

>> No.16279734

>>16278110
Calli never seriously pushed to collab with smaller creator other than what was it Izuru of Holostars? Outside of holopro she only ever did stuff with Milkie Queen her irl friend that also collabed with conur thanks to her (fellow TT fan apparently). It seems like she talked with mouse on discord or something, it's not really clear to me what their relationship is.

>> No.16279746

>>16279663
I think he's getting desperate because people aren't biting on his bad faith arguments.

>> No.16279802

>>16279582
We do have some of her metrics from when she got randomly BTFO'd by Susan. We can just compare the data and see if there are any discrepancies.

>> No.16279820

>>16279734
Mori collabed with Ironmouse on Ironmouses channel and did the Trash Taste stuff and had Gigguk on a Shadowverse stream. You're missing a lot

>> No.16279848

>>16279652
Isn't Twitch count tab out too?

>> No.16279856

>>16279411
Jun is a streaming monster in Japan.
With his viewership, he dominates most of the heavy hitters on twitch like Shroud, summit, mizkif, ludwig... etc, maybe even Asmon.
In Japan, his only peer is JP Keemstar.

It's unfair to compare any vtuber, even Gura, to him because he's in the same class of xqc and ES streamers.
Hell Gura isn't even on the same level as Shroud and Asmon yet.

>> No.16279880

>>16279661
LSF is probably the worst streamer fanbase community in the west and its not even close, its entirely fueled by dramafaggotry and clickbait headlines. You know /vt/sister meme? thats literally their fucking subreddit most of the time with so much "he said, she said, he said" shit it drives me fucking insane.

>> No.16279906

>>16279734
Mori is friends with the TT crew in real life, Sydsnap has said before on stream that she's her drinking buddy.
Milky Queen has a huge crush on Connor.

>> No.16279909

>>16279734
Mori in terms of outside collabs only pushed them for Mouse since she was the only vshojo member she was interested, gigguk and trash taste is easier in comparison because of kadokawa and cover doing nearly most of the work in setting up the important collabs and she had a shadowverse collab with gigguk for a shadowverse tournament iirc, the only holostar that she had some collabs was with rikka and the end plan was shilling their original collab song

>> No.16279991

>>16279211
Sana tried that before and her views gotten absolute decimated every time her and Gura streamed at the same time. Doesn't help Sana is the most inconstant Holo in term of streams but I can why everyone want to avoid that timeslot. Plus that timeslot can be a pain in the ass to stream if you don't live in NA which is half of EN.

>> No.16280080

>>16279991
Gura! Just Stream! You bitch!

>> No.16280082

>>16279909
Mori pushed hard for a collab with Moistcritikal but got denied. She was more interested in collabing with her favorite e-celebs than other Holos in her first few months. She only backtracked when she copped flak from her own fans over it.

>> No.16280099
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> /#/ instantly become /VTgossip/ whenever vshojo or twitch being discussed

>> No.16280142

>>16276728
Fuck you OP i havent read the latest chaps

>> No.16280151

>>16280082
>Mori pushed hard for a collab with Moistcritikal but got denied
She said a few weeks ago that it's in the works and will likely be on her channel.
No ETA tho.

>She was more interested in collabing with her favorite e-celebs than other Holos in her first few months. She only backtracked when she copped flak from her own fans over it.
You come here too often when you start unironically believing shit like this.

>> No.16280165

>>16280082
Ah my bad, i was mostly refering to other chuubas in that first part, that part of her early days will never be forgotten because of how infamous it was

>> No.16280181

>>16279054
5 Mystas.....

>> No.16280185

>>16280151
If Mori collabs with charlie I will unironically anti her. Lines have to be drawn.

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Pekora...don't look

>> No.16280223

>>16279661
It's interesting to see how vshojo and their friend circles stray further and further away from the Hololive model of streaming that popularized vtubing in the West in favor of the more mainstream Twitch style and meta. I feel like at this point they're completely alien to each other.

>> No.16280236

>>16279991
I mean...
If Mumei wasn't so completely rekt by her current scheduling I'm sure she would stream guerilla in the timeslot.
Ame is the only other HoloEN member that could reasonably stream at this time, but she doesn't care about 'filling dead timeslots'. It's kind of infuriating, that there are 10 other holoEN memebers and yet they can't consistently have SOMEONE streaming during that slot whenever Gura takes her 2/3 days off. (Yes I'm aware timezones and stuff, it's still bad to leave the best timeslot unfilled on ANY day of the week)

>> No.16280264

>>16279299
>Gen3 is the designated miracle generation
ID Gen3 will be a revolution for sure. Maybe 5 members instead of the usual trio.
EN Gen3 will flop even harder than Council because numberings don't exist in Omegay's world. That's what he gets for disrespecting the numbersGOD

>> No.16280279

>>16277985
This is for REAL chuubas only anon, not cloutchasers

>> No.16280316

>>16280236
That reminds of a question I've been meaning to ask.

Back when HoloJP only had 10 members, what was their streaming consistency like? Did they have the same dead air time that HoloEN has now?

I've heard that it was a problem back then too, but Choco saw it was becoming a problem and streamed more to make up for it.

>> No.16280315

>>16279087
>>16279087
Thanks for the heads up anon, I guess I'll just numberfag somewhere elese.

>> No.16280317

>>16279273
Didn't Ame do that a lot?

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>>16278076
Anon this is a Virtual YOUTUBER board not virtual twitch whore

>> No.16280370

>>16280317
Idk, but she probably doesn't want to do it now ever since she became Gura's sidekick and it made her seethe.

>> No.16280379

>>16280236
Today would've been a great day for Fauna or Sana to get above average numbers with 0 overlap.
I don't understand how hard it is to set up a guerilla stream.
Fauna doesn't even have a schedule out yet for this week yet.

>> No.16280406

>>16280264
> Maybe 5 members instead of the usual trio.
Already confirmed to be 3

>> No.16280418

>>16280370
Why did she even base her character to Dr. Watson anyway? That only makes her more susceptible to being regarded as a sidekick.

>> No.16280434

>>16280151
>>16280151
>She said a few weeks ago that it's in the works and will likely be on her channel.
>No ETA tho.
Sounds like bullshit if you ask me.

>> No.16280445

>>16280418
? I doubt they named themselves.

>> No.16280462

>>16280379
Anon...

>> No.16280477

>>16280315
If you want to numberfag vsj, you need to go the extra mile to say you're comparing them to other twitch streamers.
People here just assume you're shitposting or trolling otherwise.

You're likely be talking to yourself tho because I don't think many people here care about vsj numbers.

>> No.16280478

>>16280406
Kill me.

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>>16278414
>/vt/
>Vtuber
>Virtual Youtuber
>Youtuber
>Youtube

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>>16280080
Her streams have been fairly consistent lately not counting sudden breaks or sickness. The whole "Gura never stream" seem very outdated, it just the days she stream is inconstant, not the amount.

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>>16280379
>Fauna doesn't even have a schedule out yet for this week yet.
anon...

>> No.16280522

>>16280379
>Fauna doesn't even have a schedule out yet for this week yet
Anon?

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Remember when “Fubuki could beat Mori to 2M subs” was briefly a thing?

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>>16278548

>> No.16280561

>>16280479
A relic of the Kizuna AI days. Doesn't mean anything now the meta is streaming, not uploaded videos

>> No.16280564

>>16280201
2020 cull

>> No.16280570

>>16280379
Fauna is such a strange case to me, she stream a decent amount but I always forget she exist. Sana has weird break but all the joke about her taking break keep her relevance.

>> No.16280585

>>16280434
I'm not going to dig through an 11 hr jump king vod to convince you.
She said it was previously impossible but something happened recently and it's now possible.
She and Charlie have exchanged some DMs and discussed a potential collab and she wants it to be on her channel since she's too scared to be on his.
Also because she thinks more of her fans are fans of him than his fans are fans of her.

>> No.16280586

>>16280534
it's over when Q releases

>> No.16280594

Whats up with Petit's numbers? Did the APEX crowd really miss her?
>>16280201
Jun had great numbers on twitch during the get carried part of the recent tourney with pros/preds.
>>16279053
AZKi is seiso! The Holostars are underrated and I hope males can succeed at vtubers (but I'm not going to watch Niji), and so on.
>>16279063
Rushia isn't a loli and Shion is debatable too.

>> No.16280606

>>16280418
They don't get to choose their character or model. Flare openly hates hers.

>> No.16280612

>>16278368
Ollie is talking about hololive and other holos all the time though also interacting on twitter and shit although it's telling that her favorite was Matsuri kek. Anyway if anything it's Calli that felt like an outsider for a while, she could barely name anyone in the company outside of her gen and called Reine "senpai" at one point while at the same time pushing for those outside collabs with all those e-celebs she ever liked. Although she did change her attitude somewhat after that scuffed Gura collab when she got shit not only from HERE but also normie holofans and her own members.

>> No.16280627

>>16280485
>it just the days she stream is inconstant
Still, it's hard to create a schedule that matches Gura's schedule because of that.

>> No.16280630

>>16280570
fauna doesn't collab enough outside council to get exposure. she needs leech off gura more as they have a very good thing going.

>> No.16280631

>>16280445
I mean shouldn't they atleast have some influence on how they are called? Or is Hololive more strict than I thought.

>> No.16280655

>>16280570
Fauna is too average. She's right in the middle of Council for me. Doesn't stand out. With a push she could be good or bad.

>> No.16280658

>>16280594

> Did the APEX crowd really miss her?

Kinda. It's her first APEX stream since she returned from her 3 month health break

>> No.16280676

>>16280606
Rumao that's ridiculous.

>> No.16280685

>>16278709
>barely showing her numbers
Like many anons said, gura has a lot of normies, like normies NORMIES. They dont watch stream but watch clips then move to VODs, which what most normie YTviewers do. Looking at it from that perspective, her subs-vod ratio is pretty healthy

>> No.16280686

>>16280478
3 each gen is good for them, they all stream on the same time slot and the lower IDs would lose more if they debut too many.

>> No.16280706

>>16280612
There are certain people that feel like senpai. I'd say Reine is one of them. Pekora accidentally called Coco senpai during the Ark days. Botan also feels very 'senpai'.

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>one of the most unpopular one at first
>now she has more CCV than most of holos

She proved that hard work can beat talent

>> No.16280714

>>16280522
>>16280512
>>16280462
My bad. She didn't have it up a few hours ago when I checked.
>asmr again
I don't have proof, but even the most ASMR specialized HoloJPs don't spam ASMRs weekly like she does right?

Fauna's asmr numbers have been getting worse and worse every week that it feels like saturation is taking effect.

>> No.16280731

>>16280534
Fubuki is proof that old Holos can still come back and trend again.
There's no reason for any of them to think their time is over.

>> No.16280735

>>16280485
She doesn't stream on the day I want to watch her stream (which is everyday), that's the problem.

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>> No.16280770

>>16279856
gura will never be on that level because she doesn't stream daily

>> No.16280776

>>16280585
Assuming you're talking about what she said in her first shiny hunt stream, she never said anything about talking to Charlie about it, just that it's not really off the table anymore, and that if it does happen, she wants it on her channel because she doesn't think his fans will be open to watching her (the usual embarrassed about being a vtuber thing that she has)

>> No.16280794

>>16280612
Mori started getting her shit together after that. She seemed to have a deeper appreciation for Hololive around the time she started collabing with Rushia.

>> No.16280804

>>16280731
Fubuki is Hololive's Mito, old and reliable.

>> No.16280842

>>16280406
when? I remember full gen with 5 members that were already scouted big indog talents was a rrat months ago.

>> No.16280859

>>16280709
She's talented on her own right. She may not started as a streamer but she was a commentator and had lots of exposure interviewing people before she went to Hololive.

>> No.16280891

>>16280794
it was a bit earlier than that, it was after the infamous cuphead collab

>> No.16280901

>>16280776
Thanks, I'm pretty sure she mentioned exchanging DMs with him tho.

>> No.16280933

>>16280776
I feel like Charlie's fans are some of the chilliest dudes in youtube. Though if they even get to collab, I'm expecting a music collab of some sorts.

>> No.16280979

>>16280709
Subaru’s design is one of the best in Hololive. It’s honestly more of a story of somebody finally stop squandering their talent.

>> No.16280982

>>16280731
Except Aki. She's fucking cursed.
Ark arc starting right after she got vocal chord surgery is her latest ailment.

>> No.16280991

>>16280794
She basically had her view of Hololive poisoned by the TT fags from the start and didn't want to get involved. Now she's met a few she's realized they're good people and not the twitch thots TT tried to make them out to be.

>> No.16281044

>>16280534
Q buff soon

>> No.16281118

>>16280534
Gura is unstoppable

>> No.16281149

>>16280842
They confirmed last year, they said there will be a total of 9 of them this year. I don't know why people think there would be 5 since they always aim for 3 and they already low on staff and budget.

>> No.16281164

>>16281118
Meanwhile, kizuna Ai...

>> No.16281165

>>16280933
Well they can be pretty rabid, but he always calls them out for being fags when they harass other people to defend him, which is cool.
Wish Gura had the balls to do that when chumbuds were untrained animals in the first few months of HoloEN and annoying Fubuki and Ame.

>> No.16281199

>>16280891
What happened to make it infamous?

>> No.16281223

>>16280901
Maybe she did, it's been a while. She never confirmed a collab was happening though, she just said that the possibility is there

>> No.16281260

>>16280561
Cope however you want, it doesnt change the name into Vtstreamer, it's vtuber still and only those on Youtube count.

>> No.16281301

>>16280991
The whole part in the second interview where they kept telling her to stop working hard and coast annoyed me.

>> No.16281367

>>16281260
Kizuna Ai's first appearance was actually on Nico where she coined the term Vtubers.

>> No.16281432

>>16281199
40 minutes of technical difficulties which everyone and their mother was telling mori that it would end up bad but she tried pushing it through, later on it was changed to phasmophobia as a way of trying to compensate the start, at first she cutted out the cuphead section of the VOD, then privated the comment section after unlisting the collab because she doesnt want schizos trying to search among those who made the comment that made her unlist said collab it was one of her gachis or old members, still membered up to this day and it only ended up looking worse because the next collab mori had was the gigguk one, it's an episode her fans dont want to look back on except for theorizing who was the genmate that gave her the talk, after that she took hololive more seriously

>> No.16281445

>>16281199
mori was woefully unprepared which lead to gura playing cuphead, a very fast-paced timing and reflex heavy 2d shooter, with tons of input lag which just ruined the collab and lead them to playing phasmo instead, the kicker was that the following day or so mori had a collab with gigguk where she was really prepared which lead to people calling her out saying that she doesn't care about hololive and the usual

>> No.16281518

>>16281432
You forgot that it was supposed to be River City Girls at first which the devs even shouted out the stream on Twitter.

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cold chicken...

>> No.16281581

>>16281432
Fair. I mean Mori really did need a kick up the ass in the first half of 2021. For all her reputation of being a workaholic perfectionist her streams were often ruined by being unprepared and lazy about them. I'm glad she's improved on that

>> No.16281598

>>16281301
Well she's close friends with TT IRL, so you can suck it incel.

>> No.16281610

>>16281518
I mean yeah, but that is a detail that isnt very important, the RCG ended up happening and the prep was more notorious compared to that clusterfuck

>> No.16281648

>>16280223
Isn't that a good thing for variety?

Better to be that than be called Hololite.

>> No.16281649

do you think Kizuna Ai's team would let her collab with Lamy or any other Hololive girls before she enters "indefinite hiatus"?

>> No.16281720

>>16281301
the one thing anons here forget (or conveniently leave out) when talking about those episodes are the prep time that they take to make, that second episode was done during october which was a decently busy month for mori, then november kicked in and pretty much was the opposite of what their comments told her to do. Now she's mostly on a tighter leach thanks to her manager and busy with other projects

>> No.16281723

>>16280761
Johnny's sure is powerful

>> No.16281735

>>16281649
Why? She's joining Hololive after she leaves anyway as the JP vsinger.

>> No.16281811

>>16280933
I've heard the opposite actually but have no idea really, I don't watch this dude, certainly not live. I actually searched some of his stuff at one point only because Calli loves him for some reason and he seems like a pretty okay react/commentary streamer (arent all of those big twitch people reactors now?), not sure what the whole hype is about though.

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>/#/ in absolute shambles any time vshojo does well
never ceases to amuse me

>> No.16281973

>>16281735
no way

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2 anglo countries so far

>> No.16281995

>>16281445
>5%
>She doesn't care about hololive
I'm glad this can now be a rrat of endearment

>> No.16282007

>>16281735
Even if Nozomi is her own company, I don't think the chink investors would let her.

>> No.16282013 [DELETED] 

How do we kill seanigs

>> No.16282088

>>16281995
>>16281445
Hololive and their idolesque story arcs man.

This wouldn't be out of place in an idol manga.

Just picture the cool idol who think she too good for her unit and her eventually learning how to care for her genmates with the power of friendship.

>> No.16282100

>>16281301
I mean that's close to what myth advised council to do, and look where that got them compared to holoX who came out the gates swinging. Mori of all people should know that type of advise is bs

>> No.16282115

>>16282007
Chink investors can't stop her when she leaves. Non compete clauses last 3 months max. Once her contractvis up she can sign up with whoever she wants

>> No.16282130

>>16282007
You don't get special treatment on your way out. This isn't hololive.
t. upd8

>> No.16282155

>>16281987
#1 and #10 on Mora and #1 on Ototoy's weekly chart beating Watame's album.

>> No.16282209

>>16282088
Why do the kino moments only happen to Hololive?

>> No.16282228

>Number is back
>Frost Punk
Come on....

>> No.16282247

>>16281811
normies are starved for any type of straight talk after decades of literally everything in education and media being hippie shit

>> No.16282254

>>16282209
Because hololive is powerful

>> No.16282279

>>16282228
She's on track to peak higher in this FP DLC stream than her last one from a month ago, so that's something.

>> No.16282366

>>16282209
Because they made a point of making risk hires, mostly. The other is how long they take to get anything done, which gives the perception of pacing.

>> No.16282370

Hypothetically speaking, what kind of numbers would we be looking at if/when Myth finally gets 3D?

>> No.16282412

>>16282370
guaranteed 100k+ for Gura.

>> No.16282430

>>16282370
100k minimum.

>> No.16282446

>>16282370
assuming numbers aren't fucked by then, easy 100k for everyone with mori and gura possibly peaking at 150k-200k

>> No.16282460

>>16282370
im assuming the japs will tune in mass so 150k+ for Gura probably maybe 100k+ for the rest.

>> No.16282464

>>16282370
0. Hololive will go bankrupt before Japan opens it's borders seeing the current trend of Niji absolutely mogging the competition

>> No.16282466

>>16281811
+ side :One of the OG youtuber, huge influent + well respect in the community cuz for quite a while he donate all his yt money for charity+ 0 big yab despite doing yt since he was like 13
- side : Extreme vulgar and came out a bit of a hypocrite

>> No.16282496

>>16282370
1 million live viewers easily.

>> No.16282498

>>16282370
It's been a long time since the last Holo 3D debut and the anticipation will buff it just like how Subaru's 3D live was buffed.
150k should be easily achievable.

I think HoloX can get 150k+ too actually.

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>>16282464

>> No.16282523

>>16282209
The thing I noticed with NijiEN is that they hired relatively safe picks.
People already very experienced in streaming and know what type of content they want to make and were already friends in the past so there is no awkwardness.
This basically skips most of the "journey" which makes things like Myth's accomplishments or the development of their relationships feel impactful. They also heavily made a storyline of getting to Japan being fucked over by COVID which is already ruined on the NijiEN side since some of them admitted to meeting or being friends in real life already.

>> No.16282556

>>16282523
>safe picks
>Nina

>> No.16282589

>>16282523
Explain Rosemi.

>> No.16282593

>>16282209
Because growth is their main traction, as they slowly built their relationship and turn into friendship.

>> No.16282616

>>16282370
200k minimum

>> No.16282680

>>16278245
Males stole their thunder, same reason nobody posts about the Niji JP females.

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>>16279661
>>16280223
Holy fuck you're right I just looked up vshoujo clips on LSF and it's all drama farming JFC take a look at this
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/s12ys1/you_okay_back_there/
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/s13wvc/nyanners_back_to_back_cracked_gameplay/
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/s0box6/anime_girl_watches_woman_perform_cbt/

this is just vile, how dare they call themselves vtubers in the same breath as hololive?

>> No.16282713

>>16280731
I've been meaning to ask: what's going on with Fubuki? She acts like a near-retirement third stringer who only comes out every now and then to show the kids how it's supposed to be done.

>> No.16282731

>>16278281
Next people will argue we should accept Bilibili and their social credit points since "it's the superior platform".

>> No.16282782

>>16282370
Kiara 100k ~ 125k
Ina, Ame 125k ~ 150k
Mori 150k ~ 200k
Gura 175k ~ 250k

>> No.16282792

>>16282713
Chink spam

>> No.16282801

>>16282713
Wasn't she pressured by her numbers back when she was top dog?

I think Gura will act the same once someone else surpasses her.

>> No.16282811

>>16282523
>girl dying of cancer
>safe pick

>> No.16282812

>>16282713
She's been doing this for almost 4 years.
That's 20 years in vtuber years.
Exposure and advertising doesn't help her anymore because anyone who knows vtubers already knows who Shirakami Fubuki is.
Her incline is out of her own hands now and depends on luck like her Shiny Pokemon Hunt going viral.

>> No.16282829

are 3d debuts done live?

>> No.16282867

>>16282713
based on the clips I know, I'm a clipnigger I saw when she was hololive's number 1, she didn't like being at the top and she felt a lot of pressure when she was number 1

>> No.16282883

>>16282801
Gura was never a leader and never carried any responsibilities.

>> No.16282885

>>16282713
>She acts like a near-retirement third stringer
What do you mean by that?

>> No.16282888

>>16282556
>>16282589
Sounds like a case of exceptions to the norm. There's at least one potential timebomb/menhera that could cripple the entire unit in every Holo generation, with most being maladjusted social outcasts and maybe one sane/reasonable individual. The worse off you are as a person, the more entertaining you are as an individual.

>> No.16282899

>>16282712
I'm talking about general LSF streamer aka the like of XQC Mizkif etc... Why are Vkek like this?

>> No.16283003

>>16282885
I think he meant like string of a draft system in american sports but im not sure since I only pay attention to real sports

>> No.16283035

>>16282883
Does it really matter? She will still be relieved once someone else takes the crown from her on the EN side. She hates her own numbers.

>> No.16283059
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Fuck, the holo ARK clip flooding my YT page

>> No.16283060

>>16281987
IRyS is too Japanese to get NA fans.

>> No.16283156

How the hell is Gura still getting 90,000 subs per month?

>> No.16283184

>>16282883
kek she can't even celebrate milestones. 3M is a huge milestone and she just shrug it off. I'm still pissed about that.

>> No.16283194

Is LSF an actual group of streamers? I thought it was just the name of a subreddit?

>> No.16283209

>>16283184
the slumber party...

>> No.16283266

>>16283003
That has nothing to do with the draft and more to do with one's own preferential ranking in a group based on performance. It's just an idiom.

>> No.16283336

mumei.. that cooking stream is an easy 10k+ stream...

>> No.16283341

IRyS - Terraria
01/12/2022 - 6.3k avg / 7.3 peak (ongoing)
12/26/2021 3.9k avg / 5.8k peak
12/14/2021 7.4k avg / 8.9k peak

Kronii - Frostpunk DLC
01/12/2022 4.8k avg / 5.8k peak (ongoing)
12/09/2021 4.2k avg / 5.3k peak
12/03/2021 6.4k avg / 7.5k peak

>> No.16283357

Kronii might break into the France with this stream

>> No.16283380

>>16283357
EUbros, we won..

>> No.16283399

>>16283194
It's the name of a subreddit, not a group of streamers

>> No.16283420

>>16283194
Its just a subreddit but its users love to twitter brigade and start shit and basically anyone who wants to fuck with streamers is there jerking their gremlin selves off. Also VShojo twitter brigading that one guy soured me on anyone associated with them desu even if he is a piece of shit.

>> No.16283443

>>16283194
Kind of.. their audience is heavily overlap, they all know each other, 1 streamer drama spread to others as fast as covid.
Also they frequent appear on LSF top post for their "hot take " hence the "LSF streamer"

>> No.16283462

>>16283357
What?
t. threadreader

>> No.16283469

>>16282370
I could see it being 150+ baring anymore cull. Hell their latest gen song is essentially about persisting on until they finally meet up. There's been way waaay too much build up for people to not be invest at this point.

>> No.16283491

>>16280731
Fubuki was once their most popular streamer and has never really fallen below mid-tier. Someone like Mel or Roboco who have been toiling away for years without much success aren't likely to just pop off and become a top Holo out of nowhere.

>> No.16283521

Mumei 2.8k on Twitter

>> No.16283522

Just wanna let you guys know, I'm listening to Mumers cook in Twitter Space.

>> No.16283559
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16283559

>>16283522
Im with u

>> No.16283581

These games are not bringing numbers. Can EN play Ark or Minecraft?

>> No.16283598

>>16283559
>Guerilla Twitter Space does better than NijiEN
Lmao

>> No.16283608

>>16283462
She read an entire passage of French during her stream, if that goes viral it could finally give hololive an in into the elusive EU market

>> No.16283612

>>16280794
is there a clip where she talks about this?

>> No.16283626

>>16281165
Gura doesn't take any ownership of her fans, to her they're just people who watch her. She doesn't do anything to cultivate a fandom, doesn't interact at all on social media, constantly ghosts her fans and even her own company, coworkers, and management.

>> No.16283654

>>16283559
She's currently at 3k

>> No.16283673

>>16281367
What does the "tuber" part mean then?

>> No.16283753

>>16283654
will it be archived?

>> No.16283756

>>16281649
No she'll keep making a ton of cash off residuals in the Chinese market, plus NFTs and merch and whatever else they want to shill. Hololive is the touch of death to anyone dependent on chinks.

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16283777

>>16276096
Still haven't beaten Pewdiepie yet.

>> No.16283802

>>16283753
dunno

>> No.16283875

>>16283802
I'm retarded how the fuck can I find that shit on Twitter on pc? I don't use it, can you help me anon?

>> No.16283897

>>16283875
just go to mumei's twitter profile and click on it

>> No.16283914

>>16283875

https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1rmxPgEVpqMJN?s=20

>> No.16283923

>>16283673
Means TV. Never heard people call TV the "tube"? Where do you think the name YouTube came from in the first place?

>> No.16283950

>>16282556
Nina's a pro streamer and was not some kind of unhinged political activist. Her political opinions were exclusively for contexts in which they were relevant to the stream, like dedicated political discussions.

>> No.16283962

>>16283897
Oh, wtf, I've just noticed that there is purple border around it thanks kind anon.

>> No.16283997

>>16282589
The worst Rosemi would have ever done is bail and try to get into Hololive, which wouldn't matter much since they're gonna keep endlessly releasing waves.

>> No.16284029

>>16283608
Kiara was the best option for that and she failed so far

>> No.16284055

>>16283914
Ty, but it's temporary solution, I'd like to know how to find it myself next time. I've got answer from another anon, thanks anyway. I could've just googled it but I was panicking.

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>>16283897
Am I like blind or what? I can see it on the phone app tho.

>> No.16284104

>>16284029
Kiara is German though, Germany is not that hot on the entertainment market

>> No.16284106

>>16283420
They were just covering their own asses since they were heavily associated with the dude in the public's mind. The D&D guy that is. If you mean Nux that was w/e, he's a piece of shit and it was funny to see him get dunked on even if he technically didn't deserve it for that particular instance, he still had it coming.

>> No.16284128

>>16271754
archive reps nigger
its been discussed to death even recently

>> No.16284135

did irys and kronii lose viewers after mumei started?

>> No.16284148

>>16284106
Regardless a legitimate company doesn't twitter brigade, its just a coven of twitch hos.

>> No.16284161

>>16284072
In PC mumei's profile picture has a purple border which is noticeable there, but it seems that's not the case on phones, for now just follow the link >>16283914 posted

>> No.16284163

>>16283923
Ok but niconico isn't tv.

>> No.16284177

Mumers 4k get

>> No.16284195

>>16284135
Kronii: No
IRyS: Yes, but probably not b/c of Mumei. Terraria has been bleeding viewers for an hour.

>> No.16284224

>>16284148
It's a glorified co-op. All vtuber organizations are very loosely run. Hell Cover and Nijisanji are barely professional and they're the biggest companies in the market.

>> No.16284232
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16284232

>>16284161
I have it on my app tho

>> No.16284239

>>16284029
>german enter france
>fails
How the turntables…

>> No.16284246

>>16284135
It's getting late in the east coast so they usually start losing viewers at this time.

>> No.16284267

>>16284195
I think killing that big wall thing was the "highlight" of the game, or at least this part of it. People wanted to see that then started filtering out.

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>>16284072
Try touching on her profile picture and then selecting "join space"

>> No.16284289

>>16284232
Same man, I think Spaces for PC is just buggy.

>> No.16284829

>>16282209
Because you watch only Hololive.

>> No.16284838

i came here to laugh at spicschizo

>> No.16285088

>>16284829
The last time I watched a non Holo, her contract got terminated along with 50 others.

>> No.16285090

>>16282088
anon, you are talking about mori here...
idol? mor elike cringelol
go listen to more of her braps on the toilet

>> No.16285091

has kanae successfully moved his entire fanbase over to twitch just in time for it to be completely useless?

>> No.16285138

>>16283336
she's cooking for someone, so a camera is just not really possible.

>> No.16285158

>>16285138
yeah, me

>> No.16285160

>>16282782
delusional holobrony

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>>16285138

>> No.16285198

>>16278434
>does boost her numbers.
look at her chart both ccv and sc money for the past few months anon, and tell me what you see

>> No.16285211

When is Nijisanji folding and closing the company? I can't truly enjoy vtubing until Nijisanji is gone. They represent everything wrong with the industry.

>> No.16285223

>>16285163
kek

>> No.16285250

>>16282782
You are very optimistic about kiara, ina and watson numbers here imo.

>> No.16285253

>>16285091
Who gives a shit. Nobody cares about Nijishitty.

>> No.16285388

>>16285088
Please watch mystia next

>> No.16285468

>>16285198
>HoloID
>SC money
How new?
Also,
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/kzNzUK3xQto

>> No.16285540

Selen 3.5k get! It seems nijien is back to getting good numbers too

>> No.16285613

>>16280570
>she stream a decent amount
Does she, though? Her hours streamed looks pretty low whenever I see the monthly charts.

>> No.16285677

>>16285253
manjisanji is currently mogging council

>> No.16285689

>>16285090
Why are SEAmonkeys like this? Not enough launch time LMAO?

>> No.16285756

>>16279820
I remember that collab (and the shadowverse thingy I mean it's hard to forget since collab with Gigguk came after the scuffed Gura one and she actually seemed enthusiastic about it after being low-energy collab partner for so long, that's how /vt/ turned against Calli in the first place), it was a weird one because apparently they were friends for a long time now and apparently Mori used her as emotional support (?), whole stream was pretty awkward and left me with more questions.

>>16281301
That whole interview felt more like interrogation honestly and they had like 0 chemistry with each other, Calli struggled to speak at times because they were too loud etc. I can believe they're "friends" with sydney but not so much with the rest of the crew no matter what baitposters want us to believe, thank God.

>>16281581
She actually talked about losing motivation since people irl she looked up to were not impressed with her chuuba career, seems like Calli had some jealous faggots around her in general. She was also frustrated that management doesn't want to let her use hololive brand to collab with her favorite e-celebs sorry deadbeats but there is truth in this narrative she wanted to do stuff with irl people and become a TT regular since they showed interest in jumping on the chuuba train, possibly others of course what would happen is she would turn into a weird sidekick for this people paraded like a zoo animal and never develop on her own.

>> No.16285786

>>16285613
It's because ASMR streams are always only 1 hour long and Fauna isn't the most flexible streamer so when things go wrong, she's the type that would end the stream instead of pivoting to something else.

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>> No.16286084

>>16279530
to be fair, AZKi's contract and job description probably looks hella different from all the other holos.

and it looks like Cover learned from this by including IRyS in the box immediately.

>> No.16286271

>>16281648
not really, box pushing can work on twitch too, OTV makes a case for this. (although they aren't immune to drama themselves)

>> No.16286377

>>16281649
POLMAO hasn't even collabed with tamaki yet.

>> No.16286483

Marine and Iroha are going to end before Pekora's live. It's been so long since we've had some good illegal view funneling

>> No.16287130

>https://mobile.twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1481098609697431553
>Hololive x Hamleys
>GAMERS plushies with different outfits as compared to their don quixote one
Yeah, this would sell out in like an hour at most. Then, we'll see fucking scalpers selling them at x5 the price.

Also, site is bamco. So I assume they put them together for the event. Even after all this shilling for bamco, I do hope they get elden ring. Please onegai.

>> No.16287354

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1260460536

Nijisanji asked multiple people to react. (40:50)

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