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>AkuShio
(Cover) Menhera Janai Mon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7pM4M9tO70 [Embed]
(Cover) Okochama Sensou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoSuMVviNaU [Embed]
3D Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xL58zG9k5k [Embed]

>Minato Aqua
3rd Anniversary Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtOkB0YQljY [Embed]
(Original song) KiraKira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXeM0fXvOp8 [Embed]
(Cover) Hokoritakaki Idol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pYaIr-4pfA [Embed]
Hololive IDOL radio
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOzC5vqgb2w9AVrTjx_t6WNqpNRSUncy4

>Murasaki Shion
Birthday Live 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLZxkEJAm8U [Embed]
(Original song) Mage of Violet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMNnZIz6YYM [Embed]
(Cover) Phony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TCcgdMfPco [Embed]
(Cover) God-ish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHSLuBt7aB8 [Embed]
(GL Bunko Image Song) Acacia Syndrome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxiiB40eTWY [Embed]

>> No.16008324

let's start fresh

>> No.16008466

>>16008312
I wish aqua still cared about games or even her fans.

>> No.16008534

>>16008324
>>16008466
Didn't last long eh?

>> No.16008535

>>16008324
And it's gone.

>> No.16008630

>>16008312
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anonchama...

>> No.16008649

>>16008324
sigh...

>> No.16008959

>>16008466
If she wants to be idol then good for her and I will cheer for her, but she shouldn't forget that she is a streamer first, idol second. Most of her charm is from her gaming stream, and a large portion of her viewers came for that, that's why I haven't been watching her stream lately.

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>>16008324
To be honest there isn't a point in making a thread now, at least not until one of the two streams again.
And Shion is on hiatus too.

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>>16008312
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>> No.16011527

>>16008959
Well she certainly doesn't think of it that way, anon. Being an idol has always been her top priority, gaming is just a mere hobby that somehow helped her gain traction in the industry. She could've just stayed in the sticks, living with her mom and continued streaming games, but instead she longed to participate in a lot of events to realize her idol dream. When she got the chance to move out of the sticks, she seized it immediately and since coming to Tokyo she has been involved in a lot of idol-related jobs, so that's a dream coming true for her.

She definitely still cares about her viewers, but can you understand how she's feeling when those 'fans' are openly telling her to abandon her lifelong dream and go back to streaming games instead just because the numbers are higher on that side? If I were her I'd do exactly what she's doing right now, not giving a shit and keep on realizing my dream since there are still true fans who could understand how fulfilling it is living the dream you've had since childhood.

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>> No.16013439

Suisei said she met Aqua while grinding yesterday, so Aqua probably just grind off stream most of the time.

>> No.16014020

>>16013439
You missed a word there, anon.
>Suisei said she met Aqua while grinding yesterday, so Aqua probably just STARTED grind off stream most of the time.

She already said that she haven't touched the game in a year since the last marika tournament during her practice stream. Then the next day she needed to wake up pretty early for her job (around 8 am). She started retweeting arts again around 11 pm, so she was out the whole day, and most possibly went straight to sleep from the exhaustion.

Since she had to wake up early that day and stayed up pretty late, it's safe to assume that she woke up around noon yesterday. Her witnessing snow and slipping on it tweet were around 3 pm, assuming it was around the time she was en route to her dentist. Then she started retweeting arts around 10 pm. Since snow was piling up on Tokyo yesterday (no UberEats) and she needed to stay put at the dentist place for a few hours after the tooth removal, we can theorize that she first bought something to eat first/eat out before going home. She didn't put out the frame for marika tournament, so she probably decided to sleep early since she was still under the effect of the sedating agent.

Suisei said she met Aqua while grinding yesterday, which means she met だいてんしあくあ, but the Aqua playing today was using the nickname さ, and she explained that she changed to it since people kept sniping her. This means the only offstream grind she was doing was from today morning until 1 pm.

>> No.16014228

>>16013439
She said she would play a bit more after her 1 hour practice a few days ago and she was clearly playing better today than back then.

>> No.16014264

>>16014020
Okay

>> No.16014681

>>16014264
Sorry if it's too long, but I just feel the need to explain it first before the shitters come to this thread claiming that 'Aqua grinded offstream since Suisei met her and still can't make it out of the qualifiers'. The maximum duration of her offstream grind should be less than 10 hours. This is assuming that Suisei met her immediately and Aqua didn't take any break to eat.

>> No.16015392

>>16011527
Pretty soon she's not going to have enough "fans" to fill even the first row of her shitty concerts.

>> No.16015451

>>16015392
More room for me

>> No.16015534

>>16015392
QQ more

>> No.16015589

>>16015534
>QQ
What is this fucking 2010?

>> No.16015694

How’s Shion doing? I’m looping Acacia Syndrome to show support.

>> No.16015701
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Eh, you guys are too serious. Let's hope the next tournament will be better for everyone

>> No.16015734

>>16015392
Nice, I can bring my homies with me to the concert now

>> No.16015773

>>16015734
Your homies would probably throw garbage at her.

>> No.16015795

>>16015694
Getting better, I hope. I'm still pretty worried about her though since the number of her actual friend are probably even less than Aqua.

>> No.16015929

What's the point of holding so many concerts when your fans keep dwindling? Where's that fucking pokemon stream? Where's that fucking akihabara minecraft stream? Where's that fucking akukin fes stream you lying sack of shit?

>> No.16015999

Why is it when I feel sad for a holo it's always one of these two girls

>> No.16016131

people liked aqua because she was a tryhard gaming inkya who wanted to make friends and become an idol
well she made friends, became an idol and stopped playing games
the story arc is over. the anime ended 20 episodes ago

>> No.16016273

>>16015701
Autism is a hell of a drug. Also the one anon who's been pissed at Aqua for months and is incapable of letting go.

>> No.16016577

Aqua isn't my oshi nor am I an anti but with the idol route, I feel like you have to keep up streaming appearances like Suichan does to create a buzz/keep relevant because V-Tuber is still a niche market, I don't think there's a single Vtuber who can just live off music alone and still be popular.

Well it may be a motivation thing or something personal with Aqua but she can still come back from this depending what she does after her 3 consecutive concerts.

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if you autists are going to shill your spaghetti at least post akushio our lord and savior

>> No.16016876

>>16016577
And that she did, anon. Last thread someone also started comparing Aqua to Suichan, and according to the data Aqua streamed around 100 more hours more than Suichan did in 2021. People are now more likely getting caught in recency bias, since currently she isn't streaming often in order to prepare for the 3 consecutive concerts starting this month. Suichan also dropped her stream frequency around her sololive, and she isn't the one to stream often to begin with.

>> No.16017002

Who asked?

>> No.16017039

>>16016577
>I feel like you have to keep up streaming appearances
And she does

>> No.16017060

>>16016577
Remember when people thought she'd stream again after her last concert? Didn't last too long did it? Literally accomplished nothing in that time and made more empty promises.

>> No.16018311

Are we still being raided?

>> No.16018503

>>16018311
Considering the board is still full with falseflagging fags, probably.

>> No.16018716

>>16018503
Maybe I shouldn't post it in this thread since it doesn't involved Aqua or Shion but I'm seeing someone on Twitter go postal over a certain Holomen's performance and is now actively antiing her and it's really bugging me. Are Mario Kart tournaments really that big of a deal here? It's just a party game to me I don't get it.

>> No.16019175

>>16018716
Big Hololive events always bring out the worst people, it doesn't matter what it is. If you add in "competition" it becomes even worse.
Those people are either really autistic Hololive fans who get angry by certain Holos not behaving the way they want, or they're just Hololive antis using it as an excuse to falseflag.

>> No.16019409

>>16018716
Autists, nuff said. They always show themselves whenever big event like this is happening. It's mostly triggered by the reality of their oshi not fitting into this ideal shape of their oshi that they imagined. Then they go batshit over it by their own convenience. Miserable beings, really.

>> No.16019449

>>16018716
Last year was honestly way worse.

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>>16009327
You're right and I regret making this thread at this point.

>> No.16020157

>>16011527
her idol 'dream' feels like a cope honestly, granted I don't know much about her roommate's info if any.
And i don't think i'm convinced she still 'cares' about her viewers, at least not as much as she used to, then again i'm not membered to her so I wouldn't know details. I'm willing to be convinced however.
here's my current thoughts about her >>16018045
appreciate it if any aquacrew here can help improve my opinion of her, even if it ends up as a different set of opinions i used to have and liked her for.

>> No.16020174

>>16016876
Aqua went from being the top holo in streaming hours to Ayame-tier
thats much more drastic than Suisei streaming like once a month in INNK and increasing activity once joining hololive

>> No.16020366

Just let this thread die for good. Shion can still have threads but I don't feel comfortable talking about my oshi anymore if we're a minority here.

>> No.16020480

>>16020157
>I don't follow her but here's my opinion anyway
No sorry, you're retarded.
>50% of her income from chinks
That alone is already complete bullshit.

>> No.16020543

>>16020157
No interest in doing so, but you seem to vastly overstate the importance of the chinese in the course of events.

>> No.16020572

>>16020157
I dont know if you are a EOP or u dont watch Aqua bc you didnt know what its Aqua's biggest flaw
>Also
Akutan did something in taiwan arc and consequence for this she has Apex anti

>> No.16020615

>>16020543
If you haven't figured out by now, this is probably one of the HK/Taiwan freedom fighting white savior types of fans. Niggas will actually throw stones at anyone who dare be associated with China in their heads.

>> No.16020679

>>16020572
Pretty sure he's an N1 because I've seen this guy all over /jp/ and he's in /djt/ too and while he's fluent in Japanese he whines about never fitting in kek. There's a lot wrong with white people that move to Japan imo

>> No.16020750

>>16020366
It'll blow over eventually. Let's hope for more streams in 2022 from both the hardworking and fantastic ladies

>> No.16020790

>>16020750
Not with this guy a regular now. He's already got half of the board on his side since Aqua was never liked on this website even before September 2020. 2nd to only the egg in turning a website against someone.

>> No.16020926

Really funny that a board that trashes unicorns means it's OK to be a unicorn for certain Holos like Aqua.

>> No.16020938

>>16020679
I see in other words is a social retard
>There's a lot wrong with white people that move to Japan imo
I swear the USA is a country full of retards

>> No.16021063

How realistic is an April graduation for Aqua?

>> No.16021143

>>16020543
>>16020615
>>16020679
I do have a low opinion in chinese people and/or culture, but i can positively say i'm not HK/Taiwanese nor have I ever posted in /djt/ if that is relevant. My japanese comprehension isn't that good, but I know the basics well enough to watch and enjoy streams.

>>16020572
I'm aware she has some flaws and all, and she sure does attracts all kinds of antis.
I just want to be convinced that her idol 'route' was something that she truly wants and not an escape from what she loves.

>> No.16021205

>>16020926
I don't think this has anything to do with unicorns. This is about dogpiling Aqua because she's an easy target for them.

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>>16020790
If the same faggot shits up your thread with a distinct posting style, then just hide the posts. My oshi has been shitposted about every day since her debut. You just learn to ignore it and focus on the good stuff.

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>>16020926
do you even know what a unicorn is

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Honestly I thought Aqua would be fine because she quickly accepted the results yesterday, but these faggots really want to have a redo of last year apparently. Makes me think that maybe Aqua does have one of the largest amounts of antis in all of Hololive.

>> No.16021356

>>16021290
Let's do the math
5ch: Vocal but not large
Baha: Very large
NND: Vocal but not large
NGA: Unknown, hard to tell really
Twitter: Extremely small
YouTube: Small but noticeable
4chan: Possibly the largest of the JP holos
If I forgot some let me know

>> No.16021418

>>16021290
Maybe Shion checking out of the last 3 tournaments might be a good idea in the end.

>> No.16021437

>>16021143
>I just want to be convinced that her idol 'route' was something that she truly wants and not an escape from what she loves.
Better start to watch her stream/vods before to say something, Aqua always had the dream of being an idol that's why she join to Hololive.
>>16021290
>Makes me think that maybe Aqua does have one of the largest amounts of antis in all of Hololive.
Yes

>> No.16021452

>>16021356
Twitch: A sizable following from the Taiwanese Ayamefag who started to troll her in APEX. (I don't think Baha is her only source of Taiwanese antis.)
Facebook: SEA antis gather here, no clue on their numbers. (Not sure why Facebook is so prominent in SEA).

>> No.16021625

>>16020157
>her idol 'dream' feels like a cope honestly, granted I don't know much about her roommate's info if any.
She was always more interested in idol stuff than in gaming, she was in a small time idol group with Mea and Lilith in the past. Also she has stated multiple times that her dream is to become the universe's greatest idol (Hyperbole of course).
The "hardcore gamer" thing was something she picked up to stand out from other Holos as she thought she had nothing of her own early on, so she decided to really practice some difficult games in order to get good at them in order to stand out.
She did like to play games but never really was a "hardcore gamer" until Hololive, at most she'd stream LoL and PUBG tier games with some friends.
Source: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DbhCk_l0bO0bdbLQGtLvnw8fdSjIFnJoo_ODcpkvIWo/edit#
You also seriously overestimate the chink revenue, it was seriously minuscule, one solo live performances alone makes her probably 10 times the amount of chink revenue she got in her lifetime.
Is she probably upset over losing a huge chunk of her fanbase? Naturally, it wouldn't surprise me. But it's not like she tried to pander to them, she tried ignoring the whole situation but chink schizophrenia was too much and they kept jumping into conclusions that simply weren't there (IE: The "Take Over" fiasco). She just avoids confrontation if possible.

>> No.16021653

>>16020157
Well lemme tell you a small bit of info regarding her roommate then, the more info you get the more rational your judgement will be. She has always liked singing and dancing, but is socially inept thus making her unable to dance in front of people, and is pretty self-conscious about her anime-like voice since she was bullied before because of that. She looks up to Hashimoto Kanna, being pretty similar with her in physique and of also similar age, all while already accomplishing her dream as an idol. She made an utaite group back when she was still active in NND, and even held a super small scale live (~30 people attending). So yes, her 'idol' dream is as real as it gets.

Now as to whether she still 'cares' about her viewers, she's still actively exploring possible membership merits that she could give out, starting with the monthly wallpaper that started from last November. All her concerts and songs are also dedicated to all the people that has been supporting her this whole time, and in case you didn't know, all those lives aside from the first Sololive were all paid from her pocket, which is definitely a deficit for her.

Next, to address your lengthy post.
>50% of her income from chinks
Flat out false, Someone compiled the data before, and chink moneys contributed to a mere 8% of her total income from SCs. I don't know where did you even get this number from, are you a newfag? I need to remind you that Aqua was still the highest SCs earner in Youtube until Early 2020.

>salvage her chink fans by avoiding Coco
This is most likely the decision of the upper management. Aqua herself still went 'Kondragon' nonchalantly to Coco, kept an empty spot for her during her totsu even though Coco didn't say a word, and even mentioned Coco having new outfit during the last days of Coco. She loves all her fans yes, but she loves Coco more. Sadly love doesn't mean shit when bugmen can just flat out torch your company with a wrong move, so management restrained both of them from ever interacting.

>she probably thought she had lost most of the connection
She didn't. Her loyal fans still coming to Youtube and throwing SC to her despite living in bug country. Even recently fans in Taiwan paid for 3 bus wrap to celebrate her birthday, and she acknowledged them. You'd think the buses would get torched overnight there, but it didn't. Everything is fine.

>low effort contents such as utawaku and zatsudan
So pretty much everyone not streaming games currently? Guess Vtuber is dead as an industry then.

>her 'promise' last year to dominate the next mario kart tourney was made from her to her fans, of which, now are just a shell of what it had been.
Now let me ask you back, if you promised someone you will visit them at a certain date next year, then the day before the promised day you are involved in an accident and needed to spent weeks in the ICU, are you now just a shell of what you had been?
She made the promise, but there wasn't any details about when the next tournament will be, or hell whether it would even continue or not. Then it happened to be pretty close to her Sololive. Which will you prioritize, your lifelong dream that you've cultivated for the last years, or a promise that's made upon vague details?

Now I addressed all your concerns. Sorry that it's kinda long.
As a bonus, I will chime in what I think is her most crucial flaw.

>Schedule management on top of her crappy memory
As of today, that SAO Ordinal Scale mengen watchalong still hasn't get the initial part cut yet. Anyone with membership can go check it. Her memory is shit, pretty shit even. What's the point of taking notes if you ended up forgetting that you took notes at that time?
She herself is aware of this, actually. The reason why there are so few streams is because she doesn't put out a stream schedule. It goes in a loop of:
She wanted to stream -> Looked up which days are free -> Forgot to mark it -> Job offers come from mane-chan -> Mane-chan asks which days are free -> Since she didn't mark the date her stream is going to be she just gave all the available days to mane-chan -> Mane-chan filled it up for her -> Now she wonder why she doesn't have free time to stream -> Repeat.

This needs to be fixed somehow, probably even at the scale of replacing her current mane-chan.

>> No.16021669

>>16021625
Thank you. No one believes me when I said Aqua got into Hololive because she's talented on two fronts. Literally no one.

>> No.16021843

>>16021290
Last year everyone was making fun of her for practicing for days and trying too hard and then crying over being 2nd in "some stupid party game".
And now people are seething because she didn't care about being a tryhard for this casual fun tournament even though she still played better than most.
You can never please all the retards.

>> No.16021884

>>16021843
The girl had her wisdom teeth pulled yesterday she didn't even sound present. She was very happy Okayu won as well. I'm tired of people pretending cup night was an L on her morale. It wasn't at all.

>> No.16021971

>>16021418
Honestly, probably true. Though people normally overlook Shion unless she's on break, so she'd probably be fine. I still wish I could watch her play because she normally can't stop laughing when she does.

>> No.16022031

>>16021971
I only say this because I used to play Mario Kart competitively from 2008-2010 and I regret it. The game's a pain in the ass sometimes and it's entirely meant to be for fun. Seeing every fan here expose themselves gave me all sorts of the nasty impressions.

>> No.16022075

>>16021884
Honestly, I'm incredibly proud of Aqua for how she handled herself and performed yesterday because it really shows her growth and maturity over the past year. Both her and Shion seem to be realizing the importance of self-care and mental health.

>> No.16022078

>>16021625
>>16021653
thanks, really appreciates the well thought-out response.
her 'hardcore gamer' to stand out thing was news to me, and honestly it makes it a lot more respectable what she had built with that. reminds me what Marine said about her during the end of last year's tourney.

I might have mistaken her for someone else for that 50% SC thing, I remember the excel sheet someone made a quite while ago, although i probably did mix things up there.
the schedule issues, while it may seem improbable to happen continuously, i can still buy it fortunately.

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Bros...

>> No.16022119

>>16022075
She did fine. No tears. I don't understand why people are saying it's "over" for her when last year was clearly worse. She closed her comments last night but don't all Holos do that if retards start piling shit?

>> No.16022153

>>16022086
Its okay Shion can do it this time

>> No.16022191

>>16022119
YouTube automatically closes commenting based on some metric. Happens a lot without notifying talents

>> No.16022266

>>16021356
5ch/NND ones are almost 85-90% Nijiniggers iirc. They've always disliked her for being the killer of their complete dominance. Of course that may be the past, but it's exactly why she had them.

>> No.16022371

how the fuck a mario kart tournament make so much people seethe?

>> No.16022409

>>16022371
Autists. With enough big events you get used to it, unfortunately.

>> No.16022702

>>16022371
As someone who's played the game for nearly 25 years it's a combination of idiots who can't understand that Mario Kart is not meant to be viewed in a competitive lens, the clusterfuck that is the luck-based factor of the game, fags who can't take an event that's purely for fun and make it like it's professional sports, and of course, falseflagging pieces of shit with nothing better to do in their lives. First to third points are why I regret actually being in the competitive side of it.

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Owell hope Shion gets better soon. She's probably at that age where she feels the need to make decision herself.

>> No.16023254

>>16022078
I know what excel sheet you're talking about. That 50% was for Fubuki and the whole thing was incredibly misleading. That list only compared the raw SC amount from YT and bilibili and ignored everything else. In the end it only made up a small amount of their actual income, if they even managed to get any of the money at all.
The real benefit that Hololive and especially Aqua and a few others used to get from bilibili, was being invited to take part in bilibili events and all the work the chinks did for them for basically free. Aqua had a bunch of fanmade song MVs that were nice.
But nowadays Hololive is big enough that they don't really need that anymore.

>> No.16024181

>>16021625
>Lilith
Which one, the one Noripro one?[/spouler]

>> No.16024209

>>16022191
This true?

>> No.16025067

>>16024181
Yes. The one with the anal story.

>> No.16025228

>>16021653
her biggest flaw is that shes a coward who runs away from her problems, and this current situation is no different
>get criticized for playing smash with abadango
>stop playing smash
>get criticized for tryharding in ARK
>stop playing ARK
>gets criticized by chinks for not stabbing her friends and company in the back and becoming chinese
>hide and stop streaming
>get criticized for tactics while tryharding in APEX
>menhera breakdown and stop playing APEX 'for 10 years' and stop playing games altogether
>get criticized for tryharding and then losing in Marika
>dont even try next Marika
and when aqua got into hololive she did differentiate herself by being good at games starting with the cat mario stream. people dont understand what this means though. no, she was never anything approaching a pro gamer. she was a girl who didnt suck at games back when most vtubers barely played games or were like Mito who played VNs and horage. and even this is a bit of misnomer. aqua was never especially talented at gaming, what made her "good" in comparison to the other chuubas was that she tried, researched metagame strategies and attempted to get better. this endeared her to fans because most women do not play games like this. most of them are like choco, or at best were like Gamers who will autistically play nintendo games but not competitive ones. but APEX changed all this, and now there is an avalanche of vtuber girls who try to gitgud so they can join the apex sex discord, meanwhile aqua has given up completely on all games

>> No.16025503

>"""criticized"""
lmao

>> No.16025638

>>16025067
I just hope she didn’t off herself. I always liked Lilith’s kikaku streams, but she has basically disappeared from the internet on December 12, with the management posting a note that “she’s not feeling well currently, please look forward to future streams” on twitter a few days after, followed by radio silence.

>> No.16026014

>>16025228
>get criticized for playing smash with abadango
>stop playing smash
This literally did not happen. She only stopped playing Smash over 8 months later when Sephiroth came out and she got bored after getting Cloud to VIP smash.

>> No.16026144

>>16020157
>>16022078
You seem like a reasonable person and I don't think you're a bug, so I just want to let you know why everyone knows the China thing is false. This is going to be long, but I think it's important for you to understand what doing business in China actually entails and why Cover's relationship with Bilibili was destined to fail.

China severely limits the amount of money foreigners are allowed to take out of the country. They do this through many different avenues, the biggest being you're not allowed to operate a business in China without going through a Chinese middleman that owns 50% of the operation. This is part of the China trap that many businesses fall into. Even when a foreign company is successful in China, they're essentially forced to invest that money back into the Chinese side of things not only through taxes, levees, and other business laws, but also as part of their negotiated contracts. This is then used as leverage to force foreign companies to hand over technology and trade secrets to the Chinese half, which then nine times out of ten, try and force the foreign side out of China after securing their tech and audience in a type of hostile takeover. Many people suspect that's what Bilibili was attempting to do with Cover as it's no secret they tried to negotiate for Cover's tech before everything fell apart in November 2020.

The reason China is good at this kind of underhanded strategy is due to several different factors. First, every major business in China is invariably linked to the Communist Party by law. They're able to organize against foreign interests in a way that others can't because if you become large enough, companies will begin to conspire against you at the state level, creating an insurmountable obstacle to your continued business in the country. Second, Western companies are often blinded by greed and optimism. In the West and other parts of Asia, connections are incredibly important and so it's important to trust the people you do business with. You have to operate in good faith, otherwise your opportunities and potential trade partners become severely limited. In China, things are different. Businesses can spring up and shut down out of nowhere, completely obfuscating what is actually happening and who you're actually trading with. No one trusts anyone. Cheating and stealing is ingrained into daily life. You need to do what you can to survive, not only as an individual, but also as a business. After all, there are literally tens of millions of people, all within walking distance, willing to replace you at a moments notice.

Bilibili was Cover's Chinese partner, a relationship that didn't begin with Cover's consent, by the way. Chinese fans essentially uploaded pirated Hololive streams to Bilibili on what they called "official channels". After seeing an opportunity to make money, Bilibili approached Cover and told them if they were to partner with them, they would moderate these fan channels on behalf of Cover and provide them with a new source of revenue. They told Cover they would facilitate translation of their content, host "simultaneous" streams from Youtube, and provide them access to Chinese fans' donations. Part of the negotiations was for Bilibili to manage a new, separate side of Hololive with its own talents, and thus Hololive China was born.

It's obvious that from the beginning, Bilibili's real intention wasn't to partner with Cover, but instead to learn from them, take their tech, and become their own rival company. Everything that happened with Coco was used as a pretense to finally move on Cover. Bilibili didn't start the fire, but they did everything they could to pour gasoline on the flames to further their own ability to negotiate Cover's exit, including withholding all of their unpaid funds. Remember that Bilibili management were the ones that told Artia and the rest that they would be able to keep their models before Cover had wrapped up negotiations. Remember that Bilibili were the ones that were supposed to pay the Chinese fan translators on their own website, but later told them they had to ask for pay from Cover directly.

The numbers are impressive because of the economy of scale, but the Chinese are notorious for playing dirty, especially when it comes to foreigners. I sincerely doubt that even if a Holomen received 10x the superchats they did on Youtube, they would ever see a fraction of that money. The proof of this is essentially completely open. Chinese will often come here and say that x Holo earned a ton of money from streaming on Bilibili, but if that were true, then why didn't any of them stream there that often? The highest earners were supposedly Aqua and Fubuki, but neither of them streamed there regularly and no where near as often as they did for Youtube.

>> No.16026311

>>16026014
she did stop streaming it frequently, it became like a once every couple month thing when it was a huge buff game for her because of smash autists
thats the problem though, every time she tryhards a game she attracts all the autists

>> No.16026642

Aqua just need to find another game she loves.

>> No.16026764

Anon just needs to find another chuuba he loves.

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>> No.16027132

>>16026311
Eh that's just how the streaming dynamics work. If you're actually good at something you attract tryhards, while if you're actually bad at something you attract bullies.
People watching streamer who's good at something would usually also have quite a high self-esteem, thus leading to those harsh comments trying to backseat the streamer as if they're better than the streamer themselves. People watching streamer who's bad at something would usually want to watch them suffer for their entertainment, thus leading to giving false information to the streamer and then proceed to type 草 when the streamer is experiencing difficulties.

>> No.16028496

As someone that also found Aqua and fell in love with her due to how tryhard she was at a lot of the games she played (doubly moreso after that interview where she mentioned she wasn't actually good at games, she just practices really hard off stream to become better at games as she thinks she would be more entertaining if she's good at the games she's playing), I can understand where some people's frustrations are coming from (although I don't agree with the method of venting off your frustrations by posting shitty comments on her videos).

Personally, I've fallen for other aspects of Aqua ever since I started watching her like 2 years ago and even if she isn't the super tryhard gamer I fell in love with at first, I don't think I'll stop supporting her until she graduates or something in the distant future (and even then, if she continues her activities on another platform, I'd probably follow as well). I really wanted to attend her first solo live concert in person too, but too bad with how Japan and Covid have been, it is looking to be pretty much impossible.

>> No.16029311

Have fun with the thread it’s too autistic for me
>>16021653
I never understand why people don’t know about Aqua‘s roommates idol activities despite this board being obsessed with roommates

>> No.16029555

>>16029311
She hasn't updated her account in almost 4 years. Probably for good reasons.

>> No.16029612

Just want to say to those who might still be curious about Shion's 10k tier posts, I joined (sort of accidentally, paypal instantly charged me 10000 yen when I was trying to look at payment stuff), and there's no details about what exactly hurt her mental this time. She says she can't be specific about it, and vaguely says she likes to think she's a hard working girl but that crumbled recently(?). That's all the detail we have.

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>> No.16030915

>>16029612
Thanks. I hope she knows she doesn't need to put up some sort of front for her fans. She really seems to have been struggling for the past year and it feels like she doesn't want to bring it up or talk about it on stream. I accept that, but I wish that she knew we wouldn't leave even if she's sad.

>> No.16031743

>>16029612
I swear to God that I will become Holostar/Manager and save all these memhera girls! wait... This sounds like Coco

>> No.16031790

>>16030915
Sometimes she vents in members only posts/streams. I'd say more of her fans are aware of these things than not.

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>>16030915
I think Shion is a strong girl. There are a lot of supportive comments under her posts. I've said it before but last year was probably way worse, her posts in the fanbox were basically suicidal. She was strong enough to overcome that, and since she came back in July she had been doing fantastic until now. I get the feeling that at least part of this has to do with Mugi moving away, but I think it's well within Shion's ability to get back up and come back to us.

>> No.16032307

>>16031985
She's still on track to be in the Pokemon tournament. I'm not terribly worried for now.

>> No.16032335

>>16032307
When is that scheduled for again?

>> No.16032485

>>16015701
Why should a party game tournament be a big thing for anyone? What am I missing?
>>16015392
I thought most of these girls are idols first. Streaming games for years on end is not that attractive of a career (unless you really like gaming, in which case it can be a dream come true).
It seems Aqua was not that enthusiastic about gaming, so in the end it's better this way, no?

>> No.16032515

>>16029311
theres not really much exciting to go on about rin*o, despite shitposters' best attempts
she did a few covers with that group, a few covers otherwise and streamed...where she wasnt really that different than how she was early as a holo, except younger
i dont know why they always bring up the 110 stream when theres a video where shes out on a street with matsuri (mea) and acts and sounds exactly like the autistic retard shes portrayed as

>> No.16032538

>>16031985
>>16029612
>Mugi moving away
This plus her tweet about not doing much on her other account. Pure specualtion of course, but I think she burned out by the end of the year while still not being happy for not doing everything she wanted to, especially since Mugi moving away means some plans or ideas she might have had have fell through. She always had trouble with big events and the busy schedule around the end of the year must have stressed her out. In short I think it's just new years blues+close friend moving away. She'll be fine, it's just a week or two break but Shion has a strong sense of responsibility thus the apologetic phrasing

>> No.16032710

>>16032485
Stop replying to retards

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>>16029612
Shion....

>> No.16032888

>>16032335
Don't recall exact date but it's the 2nd half of the month.

>> No.16033240

>>16008312
Idk man, what to expect from this duo? Seem like they don't interact much these days. Both are suffering from depression

>> No.16033247

>>16032485
I actually had a so-called friend do a complete 180 on his oshi (Luna) for her performance on the tournament and just completely went full anti on her. It's really embarrassing to see actually. I know Aqua didn't do the best and Shion missed yet another tournament but man I can't help but die inside if viewers take Mario Kart of all games seriously.

>> No.16033708

>>16033240
They talk off-stream and rant about their darkest thoughts in place of therapy for their depression if that helps clarify how close they are currently. Not sure if that's good or bad.

https://youtu.be/80zyF5WF_yc?t=162

>> No.16034025

>>16033708
I'm sure that's just close friends being there for each other.

>> No.16034448 [DELETED] 

A lot of disconcerning shit about people saying Aqua does not care about her fans anymore is running wild on /vt/. She likes nearly EVERYONE's fan art and appreciates all efforts done, even if they're not the best quality. Not many Holomen do this.

>> No.16034510

A lot of disconcerting shit about people saying Aqua does not care about her fans anymore is running wild on /vt/. She likes nearly EVERYONE's fan art and appreciates all efforts done, even if they're not the best quality. Not many Holomen do this.

>> No.16035129

You know what fuck it. I'll make AkuShio threads regardless of who cares or not. Even if you guys just post art the whole time it's better than having 20-30 slide threads and blatantly offtopic shit flood the catalog

>> No.16038968

>>16033708
Would think it's definitely a good thing they have each other to vent to

>> No.16041413

Bump

>> No.16041731

>>16033247
I know exactly what you're talking about. Really sad how people are like this. Luna is my 4th favorite after Aqua, Shion, and Ayame so I saw that.

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>>16029612
Shion is a hard worker though. Maybe that has to be asterisked with regards to whatever she's dealing with, depression or otherwise, but I believe it. She is the only holo to have been in every group voice pack, which I think says a lot. I don't think her not streaming often is due to laziness; she's either dealing with something that gets in the way, or tries to keep it from getting repetitive. i remember her saying she usually gets tired of things quickly.

One thing though, if streaming is a stressor for her then it makes sense to stream less. But if streaming is enjoyable for her, you would almost expect her to stream more during menhera, as it would cheer her up.

>> No.16043093

>>16042370
She asks for us to respect her pace so this is correct. I've come to accept this as a Manjigumi fan because it means that every opportunity is truly to be cherished even if it's not as numerous as it was before. Could also be I'm naturally a patient person in a sea of those who aren't.

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You guys are delusional holy shit

>>16021625
>The "hardcore gamer" thing was something she picked up to stand out from other Holos as she thought she had nothing of her own early on, so she decided to really practice some difficult games in order to get good at them in order to stand out.
Source: your ass

>>16021653
>Now let me ask you back, if you promised someone you will visit them at a certain date next year, then the day before the promised day you are involved in an accident and needed to spent weeks in the ICU, are you now just a shell of what you had been?
How is it a good comparison to what happened here?
Miko had Mikorone 24h a few days before the tournament and placed 5th, better than Aqua.
Like >>16025228 said, she ran away from the competition. Want a better comparison? There's a Dota 2 player called Ame. He was 2nd place during the World of Dota 2 in 2018. He came back in 2019 and placed 3rd. Then in 2021 he finally won.
>But Aqua isn't an esport player, she's an idol
Sui-chan was in the Zako cup in the first Mario Kart tournament and was so frustrated she trained and won the tournament in 2021. She remembered her frustration from the previous year. Aqua could've done the same, but no she forgot her frustration and ran away instead.

It doesn't fucking matter that her dream is become an idol if she doesn't do it the right way. It's like starting a company. It's not about the idea, but the execution. Aqua had a big fanbase who started watching her because of her gaming stream, myself included. I used to make fun of AKBfag and idolfag in general but I went full idolfag on her first Sololive for the first time in my life.
Juggling between streaming and training/making idol content is important because the origin of her fanbase is gaming. Hololive wasn't even an idol agency when she debuted.

The only reason Sui-chan, Subaru and others can do both streaming and idol activities is because Aqua is weak and doesn't realize what she needs to do to reach her dream. She went from one of the most popular Hololive idol (if not the most popular) in 2020 to whatever she is right now.
Her recent original song has less views than Aquairo Palette last year in the same timeframe, her 3D live from November has less views than Kanata's, Marine made fun of her because she played Resident Evil Village in easy, Akukin Kensetsu was renamed Nenekin Kensetsu and yesterday she didn't qualify for the Winner Cup in the Mario Kart tournament.

She's objectively at a worse position to become an idol compared to last year and you don't need a doctorate in marketing to know that streaming less is the reason.

>> No.16043169

>>16042370
Shion likes streaming, it's why she's done it since her early teen years. That being said, things like this where your mental state just collapses make it really difficult to do even things you enjoy doing. She's the type that just needs time alone for a while, with some friends to vent to sometimes.

>> No.16043258

>>16043095
tl;dr you're gay

>> No.16043307

>>16043095
Also, don't get me wrong. I still like watching her when it's not shit content. It was nice seeing her at the Christmas werewolf game. But I'm not stupid enough to think that what she's currently doing is helping her in any way to achieve her dream.

>> No.16043411

>>16043307
No you don't faggot. Go back to your anti thread.

>> No.16043524

>>16043411
>if you aren't supporting her when she's making the wrong choices, you're an anti
reddit

>> No.16043527

>>16043095
>>16043307
Filename suggests otherwise

>> No.16043567

>>16043524
Nigga you used Reddit spacing in your incoherent ramble that made me lose at least 50 braincells fuck outta here

>> No.16043629

>>16043567
>Splitting paragraph with line break when talking about different topics is reddit spacing
How the fuck did your country educated you?

>> No.16043674

>>16043307
yes anon, I like her too. her pace to her 'dreams' may not be the most efficient or anything, but I rather be her be in the direction that is at least sustainable for her. She's one of the youngest holos (third, fourth? not sure) and i would want her to be able to do the thing she loves for as long as possible.

>> No.16043709

>>16043629
Since you made the damn rules sir oldfag

>> No.16043788

>>16043095
>>16043307
>I still like watching her
>Aqua_Graduation
Sure anon, sure. You've spent literally 3 or 4 months posting the same trash about how you're done with her. Just find another Holo to watch and go away.

>> No.16044142

>>16043095
>ame won TI
nice headcanon zhang

>> No.16044168

>>16033708
Did you see Sasaki bullied Aqua in Christmas?

>> No.16044319

>>16043095
>Source: your ass
There's a source in that very post you retarded seanigger.

>> No.16044355

>>16043095
You selfish asshole is the reason why she abandon games. Always demand without giving a shit about her. Go watch someone else

>> No.16044425

Y'all replying to the Aquaschizo from /jp/. He's also Marineschizo and Noelschizo too btw so I'm just saying it won't be long until he starts flooding the catalog with more Aqua anti threads with the same thread image

>> No.16044705

>>16044168
You don't watch streams or even follow Sasaki on Twitter, Kemal.

>> No.16044948

>>16044705
This is no panda thread and I don't care, but she hit Aqua and got away with it

>> No.16044998

>>16044948
Never happened, Kemal

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Look at this garlic

>> No.16046038

>>16026144
This is true

>> No.16046327

>>16043095
Do white people play DOTA?

>> No.16046877 [DELETED] 

Akukeks literally screeching and malding at any kind of criticism being leveled at her. It's time to face the facts keks. She's washed up and busted. Twitter is absolutely roasting her and I hope it turns her into a puddle of goo. Stupid cunt deserves every bad thing that happens to her.

>> No.16047532

>>16029612
shion yo....

>> No.16047898

>>16043169
Yeah but in the case of Delta for example, every time she gets depressed she doesn't want to stream, but when she does stream anyway, she always ends up getting cheered up and leaving happier than she came. Are Shion's mengens different when she's feeling down?

Regardless, I still suspect that her infrequency in streaming is more due to a factor that's out of her control, or something she's dealing with rather than her choosing not to stream - either for laziness or for keeping things from being repetitive. I think the voice pack thing is in line with that, as it's something short that can be recorded at any time and is still something to give to your fans.

>> No.16048879

>>16047898
Well, at the very least it’s highly like her last break was partially due to being tied up resolving some legal issues. Whatever it is this time, she can’t talk about it.

>> No.16049292

>>16046327
Russians do sometimes

>> No.16049469

>If you have nothing good to say, don't say it

>> No.16049471

>>16046327
Europeans, yeah.

>> No.16050105

>>16046327
slavs do, they actually won the last TI instead of the chink he was told did by the chinese government

>> No.16051390

>>16043095
Fine I'll bite.
First of all the first guy you're quoting literally attached the source in his post, you're either blind or you just intentionally want to shit up the thread, whichever is fine by me though.

>How is it a good comparison to what happened here?
Since she got her wisdom teeth removed the day before? Go google how it is performed, and also read up about the aftercare.

>There's a Dota 2 player called Ame. He was 2nd place during the World of Dota 2 in 2018. He came back in 2019 and placed 3rd. Then in 2021 he finally won.
You can't even make the correct analogy. First of all it's called THE INTERNATIONAL, not World of Dota 2. Secondly, Ame is Chinese, and the winner of TI 10 is Team Spirit, a Russian team. You're either telling me Ame played simultaneously on 2 accounts during the final, or that Ame is actually Russian.

>Aqua could've done the same, but no she forgot her frustration and ran away instead.
Yeah let's just conveniently forget that her Sololive is also 3 weeks away, sure.

>Juggling between streaming and training/making idol content is important because the origin of her fanbase is gaming. Hololive wasn't even an idol agency when she debuted.
And that's literally what I put as her biggest flaw? Are you actually blind? Her scheduling is shit and definitely needs some improvement. Pretty sure she's the type of person who can't say 'no' so she always ended up accepting too many offers than she could handle.
Also Hololive IS literally an idol agency, even back when it just started. COVER started as a technology venture, and Hololive is made to promote their AR and VR stuff. The one spearheading it is Sora, by promoting herself as a Virtual IDOL who stream games and talk sometimes. You rejecting Hololive as idol company meaning you rejecting Sora's whole existence.

>The only reason Sui-chan, Subaru and others can do both streaming and idol activities is because Aqua is weak and doesn't realize what she needs to do to reach her dream. She went from one of the most popular Hololive idol (if not the most popular) in 2020 to whatever she is right now.
And here we come, numbers. Of course, this always come up whenever shitflinging about her is started. Now I'm confident that you're actually blind. You're exactly one of those people I mentioned in the 2nd paragraph in this >>16011527 post.
Now let me get it straight, SHE ISN'T A NUMBERFAG, so there's literally no reason for here to choose numbers over her idol dream. She even said that there are a lot of better singer than her out there who somehow got lower views than her songs, so views really doesn't reflect anything. You numberfags go and watch someone else, it's better for both of our sanity.
Next you will tell me that she gonna cry when nobody is attending her live concert anymore, well sorry but that shit doesn't fly. The ticket for her Sololive this week was gone in seconds today. Damn I'm salty I couldn't grab it fast enough.

>Akukin Kensetsu was renamed Nenekin Kensetsu
Uhhh, wow. Just wow. I'm kind of speechless and quite amazed you brought this to support your argument. Okay I guess.

>She's objectively at a worse position to become an idol compared to last year and you don't need a doctorate in marketing to know that streaming less is the reason.
You might need to open that dictionary and find the meaning of the word 'objectively' first. That's not a word you can throw out whenever you feel like it. Unless literally everyone in this world agree with your opinion, that makes it 'subjective', and seeing the reactions to your post, guess it's still very far from being able to be called 'objective', don't you agree?

Have a good day to you too.

>> No.16051428

>>16051390
Stop replying to him. He's just going to kill this thread like he killed /ahoy/

>> No.16051476

Listening to her recent cover and im reminded again how they often choose to cover songs with lyrics that apply to their situation or life.

The line
イメージとか強制するな (~~don't police who am I supposed to be)
Is like a direct adress to most of the criticism, and the rest of the lyrics easily apply to literally to all the recent threads and rrats.

>> No.16051732

>>16051390 (Me)
Some correction (since I forgot to proofread it)
>literally no reason for here to choose numbers
literally no reason for her to choose numbers
>The ticket for her Sololive this week was gone in seconds today
The ticket for her Sololive three weeks from now was gone in seconds today

>> No.16051901

>>16051428
Oh so he's notorious around here? TIL.
>>16051476
Yeah I really like her choice in covering that song. She's going to become 銀河一アイドル and there's nothing stopping her. Basically haters GTFO.

>> No.16052065

>>16051901
Killed the Noel general too with his paragraphs. It's like talking to a wall that repeats the exact same shit pretending Aqua/Marine/Noel/Ayame/Mel etc. was once their oshi and then claims the entire website is on his side when in reality he's just responding to himself.

>> No.16052344

>>16052065
Known /hlg/ containment breaker etc. etc. he actively raids certain individual oshi threads to start shit in the form of essays with the same trash. I'm surprised he hasn't been caught ban evading yet because he also is behind the anti-Ayame copypasta.

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An /hlg/ containment breaker is here? What do you think, anons? Pretty kimoi~~

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>>16044998
Fuck you she did

>> No.16054853

https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1479714031481286660

>> No.16054909

>>16054853
I want to hug Akutan to warm her

>> No.16055442

>>16053998
>What do you think, anons?
A vermin exterminator is needed

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>> No.16057504

>>16056859
This shion is a bit weird

>> No.16057864

An image of the Shiokko plush was posted on Shion‘s Youtube account

>> No.16058056

>>16057504
I'm sorry, it's an old art.
>>16057864
I'm actually surprised by the size of the Shiokko plush. I thought it would be smaller.

>> No.16059113

>>16043095
>Akukin Kensetsu was renamed Nenekin Kensetsu
fucking lmao
how do some people take these throwaway Minecraft gags seriously

>> No.16059438

>>16057864
Damn it I really want it, but I'm terrified of shipping costs

>> No.16059487

>>16059438
The shipping cost shouldn’t by high if you choose one that charges by weight of the package and not size

>> No.16059675

>>16052065
>Killed the Noel general
but the Noel thread is in the catalog right now and it looks pretty alive to me

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>> No.16062773

>>16059438
Order through Cover's site. it's cheaper and through DHL instead of EMS. Unless you're talking about customs...

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>> No.16068687

>>16008312
Hi, this time I drew Akua-chan from Hololive٩(๑òω๑)۶!

She starts delivering while she's being attacked by tentacles!
She's getting anal and uterine abuse from an overwhelmed Kupaa, who even has a full view of her uterine cavity! (*) Holy shit!

Once again, the diffs include tentacle rape, anal fucking, tits swelling, uterus de-sexing, Creampie, botched belly, and two-hole birth!
There is also a blindfolded version included, so I hope you enjoy that as well (*´´∀*).

I'll be judging the direction of future illustrations based on the number of (you)s I get.

>> No.16069148

>>16068687
mmm naruhodo

>> No.16070149

>>16059113
Was it though?

>> No.16070599

>>16070149
Is humor banned in China?

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>>16068687
Interesting..

>> No.16070987

>>16070599
So Nene did take over AKUKIN then? I missed the HoloX MC tour stream. Obviously I wouldn't know any better since I've had no time to do archives reps all week outside New Year's Cup.

>> No.16071231

>>16068687
Best piece of art I’ve seen in my entire life. I like the parts that look almost transparent the most.

>> No.16071382

>>16070987
NTA but feels like you're missing the point by a lot here, anon. Nene taking over AKUKIN is in similar vein to Gura taking over AKUKIN, as in it...doesn't fucking matter. The construction company thing is never to be taken seriously. Heck they can even change the CEO and the name of the company everyday if they wanted to, it doesn't affect anything.

>> No.16071891

>>16071382
I blame the Shiraken fags for living it on easy mode.

>> No.16074621

>>16057864
It's cute!

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>>16068687
>uterus de-sexing
>botched belly, and two-hole birth!
what

>> No.16077063

>>16068687
Ok, but where is it? Asking for myself.

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>> No.16093466

>>16076350
Did you never de-sex a girls‘ uterus?

>> No.16103576

>>16077063
why dont you have a friend? Even Aqua has friend.

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>> No.16117330

>>16033708
do you think this is an improvement? kuroa's posts from before made it sound like she didn't tell these kinds of things to others

>> No.16119086

>>16054708
>EOP clip watcher
Of course.

>> No.16119572

>>16117330
It is. She also made friends with Nene and Laplus since last year, she’s definitely in a stronger position this time.

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>> No.16124389

https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1480018976487149571
The post wisdom teeth removal fever sucks. Hope it's not an infection instead and the fever should go down in another day or two.

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>> No.16133378

>>16077063
https://files.catbox.moe/ny3xy1.jpg

>> No.16133666

>>16133378
>torpedo tits
Ruined.

>> No.16134263

>>16133378
気持ち悪い

>> No.16134290

new fanbox post

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Bros...

>> No.16139642

>>16103576
How do you know he doesnt have a friend unless your projecting?

>> No.16142141

>>16139537
it's like a perfect fit.

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>> No.16147916

>>16139642
He's joking with how the meme actually goes "asking for a friend" you dumdum.

>> No.16148410

https://twitter.com/X615/status/1480198918302744578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8zxx3C9CA0

>> No.16150612

>>16134290
10k anon here, it says たくさんありがとうね。

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>>16150612
I will patiently wait for her return

>> No.16157355

>>16148410
Amazing

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>> No.16166052

>>16068687
nahone

>> No.16167095
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I was wondering where all the shiokko are… in this thread??

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>>16167095
I ate them

>> No.16167362

>>16167245
I want to eat minato aquas butthole

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>>16167095
Here, just busy with irl stuff. I still need to scrape arts on Pixiv, I'm just scraping in moderation, because I can get my IP banned from Pixiv, if I use the tool too much.

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me with the dent

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Thoughts?

>> No.16169733

>>16169667
I wish I was Aqua for the fat tits and easy access to Shion

>> No.16169814

What makes aqua built for cucking?

>> No.16170166

>>16169814
Big tits and autistic, meanwhile, Shion is really built for rape, no reason given, she's just built for rape.

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>>16167095
I'm here, but while she's on break there's not much to talk about.

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>>16170441
shion cute

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>>16170166
correct

>> No.16171016

>>16169814
madness of delusions + going after okayu

>> No.16171121
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Thoughts?

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>> No.16176539

>>16150612
Thanks. I wish I could 10K but neets tend to not be whales.

>> No.16176585

>>16167095
there was a wall of shion bumps to the thread just last night...

>> No.16176700

>>16025638
Well anon. I don't know what to say.

>> No.16177336

Lilith's contract was canceled. It was apparently pretty serious. I hope Aqua isn't upset.
https://twitter.com/noriopro/status/1480373840622489607

>> No.16177386

Akutan just can't get a break. This Lilith news is a shocker to me as well.

>> No.16177461

They messed the date up by marking it as 2021 so they deleted the tweet.
Here's the corrected one.
https://twitter.com/noriopro/status/1480383446510084102

>> No.16178013

>>16177336
>>16177386
Have she and Aqua interacted since Aqua joined Hololive?

>> No.16178136

>>16178013
Yep. They're friends before they both became Chuubs

>> No.16178192

>>16178136
Oh since she joined... That I don't know. I'd imagine once or twice but that was before I got into Chuubs in general.

>> No.16178819

>>16167245
Neko...

>> No.16179037

>>16022086
Bros I ran out of strong zero...

>> No.16179113

>>16025638
Anon....

>> No.16179412

>>16179037
There's monster energy drink on the fridge but.... It's Banana flavored..

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>>16179412
I'm gonna puke.

>> No.16179708

>>16047898
>Are Shion's mengens different when she's feeling down?
If you watched the only mengen that she took down, you know the answer.

>> No.16180064

>>16179708
I'm still mad I missed that one and nobody had it recorded no matter where I looked. Aside from really old stuff that's on the chink hololive archive site, it's the only stream I'm missing from my personal archive.

>> No.16180522

>>16178013
I believe not. Aqua might get a little down from the news but it probably won't be that serious. I don't think the 2 have interacted at all since Aqua started her vtubing career, and even back before Aqua was the closest with Mea compared to other members.
Not to add, those reasons for the severed contract sounded pretty bad.

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>>16167095
Busy with new work...

>> No.16180982

>>16180522
About that idol group... Anyone else I may know?

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>>16180064
There's something called "The Matrix" on the Holopirates discord, you might try asking there. It's possible they have it, because they have Vee there and a few Shiokkos..

>> No.16181921

>>16177336
who?

>> No.16181989

>>16179037
what's strong zero?

>> No.16182058

>>16180982
Aside from Aqua, Mea, and Lilith don't think there's anyone else from that group that also got into the vtubing scene. Even Lilith is considered quite new to the scene since she joined in 2021 compared to Aqua and Mea who started on 2018.

>> No.16182064

>>16179708
uh hello, i'm in the fanbox? why else would i ask?

>> No.16182617

>>16182064
I don't get your question mate

>> No.16182647

>>16182617
Clearly.

>> No.16182700

>>16182647
If you were asking if Shion's mengen different when she was in dumps, then yes it is.

>> No.16184765

Someone said Shion made an instagram on the other board.

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>>16184765
isreal or nah?

>> No.16187712

>>16182700
>>16185175
even if she did, how would that guy have found out about it?

>> No.16187818

I think the instagram thing is a weird mixing of narratives and jokes because Shion's hiatus occurred on the same day La+ made an instagram.

>> No.16189907

Do scans of Aqua‘s part in this already exist?
https://twitter.com/vtuber_style/status/1479039004364652548

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woke up just in time to bump the thread

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>> No.16194353

>>16033708
Judging from what they said here, it's good that Shion finally realised that there is 1 person on holo that she could rely on.

>> No.16197248

nakadashi shion murasaki

>> No.16199962

>>16184765
I’m pretty sure I saw a schizo claiming this a few weeks ago but his “proof” was that during the Nene collab Shion took a picture of the food and said インスタ映え. But obviously she’s never mentioned it on any account so there’s not really proof.

>> No.16200022

>>16199962
>インスタ映え
wow he really got amazing evidence, she totally never said this before

>> No.16200629

>>16200022
Now that I look at the post on /jp/, he said
>The fucking zoomer just had to open an instagram account. Fuck that website for making you need an account
but this could refer to Laplus as well, who supposedly made an insta recently (according to another thread over there.)

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>> No.16208688

Bump

>> No.16209672

>>16187818
>>16200629
Is Lala cute?

>> No.16209995

>>16209672
yes, and small. Think she's like 150cm

>> No.16212095

shion yo...
akutan...

>> No.16212105

>>16209995
I want to manhandle La+ and Shion so bad...

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>> No.16219869

>>16215325
cute

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>>16171121
>>16169814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08x-vwlPfZo
She's jealous and fun to tease

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>> No.16232480

>>16231439
Neko...

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Bump.

>> No.16237603

>>16205978
shion butt!

>> No.16238958

>>16237603
Where is Aqua butt?

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>>16238958
Right here.
God bless her papa.

>> No.16240497

>>16239277
I want to sniff her sweaty butthole...

>> No.16242834

did anyone end up finding shions videos before that massive purge they did a while back? i contributed a bit but i kinda dropped off the whole vtuber bandwagon for a year or so

>> No.16244399

>>16242834
>did anyone end up finding shions videos
gonna have to be more specific m8. but there's been virtually nothing of shion's posted in the /t/ thread.

>> No.16244490

>>16242834
There's that Chinese archive site, but I can't remember the name. hololive.[something I can't remember]

>> No.16244571

>>16244490
Oh, I think it was hololivevideos.icu but it seems to be gone.

>> No.16244611

>>16242834
>>16244399
>>16244490
>>16244571
Found it. https://hololivevideos.download/channel/murasakishion

>> No.16244996

>>16244611
thanks anons

>> No.16246784

>>16239277
thread can always use more oppai and oshiri

>> No.16246804

>>16244611
so which ones are the ones that're nuked?

>> No.16246843

>>16246804
those were the ones that were nuked from her channel

>> No.16247976

https://twitter.com/ff_ichigo_/status/1480841940803657728
akutea...

>> No.16248816

>>16247976
Thanks for the tea

>> No.16249923

https://twitter.com/chocomoo3/status/1480546624896397313
https://twitter.com/chocomoo3/status/1480571355523616771
https://twitter.com/chocomoo3/status/1480654812404674562
https://twitter.com/chocomoo3/status/1480671231435509760
https://twitter.com/chocomoo3/status/1480713370441781248
https://twitter.com/chocomoo3/status/1480750478854356993
https://twitter.com/chocomoo3/status/1480788580507459584
Interesting

>> No.16250041

>>16246843
yeah but some of them are back. i'd like to have a list without manually checking them all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTK7tbCH7DI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uduvRJEZ2Fg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k88gX3HC1rs

>> No.16252215

>>16249923
Someone who I follow retweeted all of these and I was so confused when I woke up

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It's gonna be a long month...

>> No.16255157

>>16244611
thank you for the link
didnt know there was a website which stored all the nuked streams
I feel like a little kid who found tons of presents under the christmas tree

>> No.16255523

>>16255157
Well it's not all, but most of it. The quality is also pretty bad on that one. There was also https://v.ikx.me/ but it seems to have died now.
There's another chink archive that has more streams but there's still some that seem to be lost forever.

>> No.16255750

>>16043095
Looking back at the thread, this anon lying about who won a Dota tournament was the weirdest thing

>> No.16257684

stay alive

>> No.16258133

>>16257684
bump limit dawg
>>16205978
>>16239277
akushio butt for next op plz

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