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>>15966269So she kinda fucked herself when it comes to making this a big money making job?At least from what you said, they're mostly casual fans who won't buy merch.I don't really see her trying to leech off the guys being a good long term plan.
How do you calculate viewers churn? For example, suppose you have:>120 minutes video>8,000 CCV>120,000 final VOD (let's say after 8 hours so we can assume the VOD tally is corrected but not affected by viewers who watch archive)Would the formula be: 120,000 VOD / 8,000 CCV = 15, then you take 120 minutes / 15 = 8 minutes. So your viewers' churn rate is 8,000 viewers every 8 minutes?
>>15966589Oh. Yea, ouch. Kuzuha...It's interesting. Fuwa hadn't streamed much since the new year, whereas Kuzuha's streamed a few times during the new year, where this 'cull' was more localized to Hololive pre-new year among vtubers, it's now spread out heavily after the new year.
Luxiem does fine to Council in comparison. It's not even 30 days for them yet.
>>15967722>It's not even 30 days for them yet.Their debuts are counted in there too right?
>>15967722Lxiem's views will start to drop in the next months just like happened with Council
>>15966712Which manhwa is this?
>>15967284I notice from the many chuubas and streamer alike's complaint is that the current ccv shows half of the exact numbers. There this one indie i watch who's ccv was 70 a few days ago and but it shows 140 on her analytic thingy. So yeah if the ccv is 8k it means the actual number is 16k, and so on
>>15968087Mookhyang
>>15967284It's honestly impossible because it's different depending on the streamer and the content being streamed.At most, when we do VOD comparisons, we're just guessing what the "true" CCV is based off of past data and culled people vs unculled people.Numbers are all fake anyways.
>>15968077voxx views and mysta are already dropping the tohers were already low
>>15968473It's hard to say if its just them naturally dropping off or if they too, have begun to get INFECTED.
>>15967284are you trying to calculate the time watched?from your formula, it would be a standar but there is a lot of thing to take in to acountyou know people are chaotic
>>15967722September (10 days)Bae 4.6MFauna 4.1MMumei 3.8MKronii 3.7MSana 2.1M
Without the cull Petra would be at least over 700 now and Elira at least 1k
thanks for the money suckers
>>15967284Sorry different question but does anyone know if leaving a live stream then coming back to it later adds 2 views to the VOD btw? Like is it just 30 seconds watching = 1 view, refresh, another 30 seconds = 2 views in the same way a straight up VOD works.
>>15968872It should, but we know youtube only allows 5 views a day on a video IIRC.Whether or not this 5 view a day rule applies to people without accounts, I don't know.
Ame's birthday VOD is at 153k views
Any update from YT about the ccv cull?
>>15968690>Elira 489>Petra 289Holy, they're getting FUCKED.
HoloStats has Mori's MK stream scheduled at the wrong time. Any way to fix this so it won't be lost?
>>15968872VOD views only update if you watch the whole video, and you can only watch a video about 5 times in one day before YouTube stops adding views to the counter (it resets daily). Scrubbing through the video doesn't work. There is a way to do it, but that's up to you to find out.
>>15968872i think you count as 1 unless you exit and enter again
>>15968690Why are you arbitrarily doubling their viewership? By your own standards, Gura actually got 35k peak playing GTA V which anyone who follows her numbers knows it would be more near to 20k mark.Elira got 30 views above her waiting room.
>>15969110Only the admin can fix it, so it will most likely be lost. There's vrabi tho.
>>15969053It will not be fixed, just get used to it
>>15969056is the shill stream only on petra's channel?
>>15968558im talking about vod viewscmpare the sekiro streams and gta streamsonly thing holding voxx is pulling genshin gacha
>>15969056Roberu and petra are getting infected too huh.
>>15969285kek, and on a sponsored stream, too.
>>1596914930k peak with 20-24k average is believable for that gta v stream. the benny hill chase got it to peak real high from tourists
>>15969085It's just getting worse and worse for everyone.
>>15969149i guess reimu is on her normal numbers yet
>>15968319>genderbenderJust what is it with gooks and gender-bending? Are the authors women or something?>MurimAlso knee deep huffing that Chinesium.
>>15969085It’s a PR stream, but still shouldn’t be this low. I’m seriously wondering what their CCV is gonna look like next week if nothing is fixed
>>15969149>Itsuki at 32Yikes. JP vtubers in the 50~ range must be very uneasy. They have their real numbers but I think randoms are more likely to tune into a 60 viewer stream than a 27.
irystrocrats need to do their reps on their oshi latest song ffs, soon to be passed by watame of all peopleSpark of Joy - 205kMy Song - 201k
>>15969857To be fair, that Watame MV deserves all the views it's getting.
>>15969857I try, but the really bad english lyrics make me want to strangle a bitch.
>>15969857Irys needs to make better songs/covers. Such a waste of her talent right now.Also, I think this is Watame's most successful original in months.If she can catch up to Towa's new original, that would be huge for her.
Versen also infected
>>15969085>>15969678yup. even with overlap and pr it shouldn't be that low. the likes also already began a lot higher than the number of views.
>>15969857She announced the song on her second anniversary live right? That's pretty different from releasing it on the 26th without mentioning it in any stream prior.
>>15970047It's really a problem for everyone. I don't think youtube intended for this runaway effect.
>>15969857My Song is Watame's most successful orisong I think. She could beat both Towa and Kanata.
>>15966712is this omega
>>15970047Sony...go save your two views
>>15969857IRyS song was not promoted at all and the release was only announced 12 hours before it dropped. The algorithm doesn't seem to push IRyS music either. I don't even watch Ina or Kiara and their songs are always recommended to me after watching Hololive vids. I've never been recommended and IRyS song.
>>15969857Watamates need to their song reps as well. None of her 2021 original songs hit 1M yet.
>>15969149Sony vtuber....
>>15969857I don't know who is in charge of IRyS' music, but they clearly needs replacing or giving her more authority/control over what she can produce on her own. She is a good a singer, but what good does it do you to have good talent and production values if it's all wasted on generic mid shit that's just a step above garbage music.Not even and Irystocrat and I am doing reps on the song on YT music based on how good it sounds and not how good a song it is... and I only do it because I like IRyS, cause I'd rather listen to generic mid American garbage over whatever that was that got passed as song lyrics.
>>15969149If you factor in December 2020 and 2021 culls together it probably is 50%. It's probably over that.
>>15970200It's her ghost to suisei.
>>15970292I'll never understand just how brain dead stupid their management is.It's no wonder that the girls only ever praise their personal managers but not anyone else.>>15970394Omega is literally listed as her producer (at least for her album).
>>15970394EN Vsinger is a waste of resources just like INNK was in JP, just ditch the whole project and make her a regular holo shes a better streamer than all of Council anyway
>>15970394They need another Here Comes Hope. It's not doing amazing but if you add up the Topic and MV it has 1.3M which isn't that bad.
>>15969857Didn't Watame drop a ton of cash to basically make an anime OP for her song? It's gonna get traction based on that alone. IRyS videos are all perfunctory.
>>15970394I watch IRyS sometimes. I have been had Here Comes Hope show up once in my sidebar, and it wasn't even the one on her channel, it was the youtube topic video. Wanna know whats funny? I get recommended namirin songs there all the time when listening to music. I don't think her channel gets pushed by youtube, maybe if it was made into an artists channel it would help.
>>15970047Nah guys it's just having trouble processing viewers, because of the high volume. They have to verify all 60 of them. It'll be accurate in 3 days.
>>15970200It will beat Cloudy Sheep soon
>>15970572Yeah for some reason I get pushed the topic version of HCH over the MV when the MV should be more relevant since it got more views in a shorter amount of time.
>>15970446LOL I get what you mean, but Ghost is still on a different level.Ghost got 350k views on the first day and has some of the best legs in Hololive original song history, catching up to NCP despite being 8 mil behind.Fun fact: Korone's original song dropped on the same day as Ghost and actually had more views on the first day than Ghost (380k).
Could it be that those that were culled were just “views” from third parties like holodex, or people using multiple windows to boost? Or were those methods already filtered out
>>15970674Those never counted, at least not since anyone here has been watching vtubers.
>>15970674Most japs don't use any of those, hell the majority of their views are probably from mobile.
>>15969149Gura was already being culled before, so yeah.
>>15970674Only if you believe that +80% of viewers were on embedded streams
>>15970572I actually got recommended the Sora topic channel songs recently.No IRyS yet even though I watch her every once in a while.
>>15970747What about that thing going around of Fubuki mentioning holodex or whatever
>>15970674No, since it's affecting small indies who don't collab too.
>>15967141hopefullythat literal commie hag doesnt deserve any money
>>15970674how many times do we need to say it? they see THE REAL NUMBER after 1~2 days, they are not boosting anyone, YT is extremely retarded and their live metrics are fucking useless I know they have a shitton of shitty normies using the app and even some as security camera archives but they should AT LEAST give a priority queue to partnered/verified streamersI don't think Karen and Joe will care if they are streaming to 2 viewers instead of 3
>>15970674I got culled and I always watch on youtube and only have the stream open once. The only culling theory that somewhat fit me was the emote spam. But even then it's not like I would spam chat with emotes in quick succession it's just that I basically only ever used emotes.
>>15970674nopean 80% cull would mean 80% watched from holodeximpossible
>>15970914>using the app using YT as streaming service*, lost my thought a bit there
>>15970674>>15970735Third party views count if you don't adblock YouTube and the video is not set to "auto-play" once the embed loads. YouTube considers legitimate views any manual trigger of a video playback.What they don't count is multi-view, which only applied to the active tab.
>>15970674Right, but holodex is mostly used overseas, isn't it? And overseas viewers are a bigger chunk of the ccv of Holo EN chuubas.However Holo EN has been considerably less affected than Holo JP chuubas.If it's holodex it has to be something more complex.
>>15970108She first "announced" and sang it during the paid portion of the live, first sang it publicly during the anniversary 3D then announced the video in a random stream today, because as much as I love her she's retarded and so are her managers because nobody told her to announce her amazing and no doubt incredibly expensive anime MV at the anniversary instead of making the whole fucking stream about Botan and releasing the meme song with her then
>>15970859the what? can't find anything about it in the archives.
NijisanjiEN currently has over 10k viewers
>>15967284We’d need to know at the very least average viewer retention. YT analytics has this but only the content creator has access and we cant make assumptions because there’s just too much variance per creator
>>15970200For how much it cost it should. It has much more animation than even Towa's Palette. It needs to beat that to a million.
>>15970507Here comes hope is the best irys song. That song need a full animation mv.
>>15971182and none of those are me
>>15971182Maybe they have closer to 15k overall CCV right now, if we go by how the cull has affected them.
>>15971208>Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 15 DaysYeah it could.
>>15971078>chuubasthis makes you sound like a faggot
>>15971147Random 5ch post idk>しかもこれ最初はファンメイドってことになってたけどその後演者に運営が作ったことバラされてて草生える https://i.imgur.com/1vhMKUj.jpg フブキ「最近ねホロの複窓ツールってのを開発してくれた〜…」 フブキ「あのツール開発したのホロ内部の人間っていうww」 フブキ「作ったのホロの社員さんらしいよ」 フブキ「是非ともホロツール推していきたいなって思います」 https://www.youtube....UY5CxnN3mME#t=18m48s つべは非公開になっとるから切り抜きsm37013350
>>15971251Lurk more you retardhttps://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/search/text/chuubas/>Searching for posts that contain ‘chuubas’. Returning only first 12500 of 36215 results found.
>>15966712I love Dark Lady
nijinoon right now, prev numbers
>>15971344This is a year and a half old clip talking about holotools.https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm37013350
>>15971407It's retarded and you should feel bad
Putechi is continuing to be culled on her first game stream. More likes than views. And bellow her average ccv.
>>15970914to be fair the requirements for verification is just "have 100k subs" so there's like upwards of five hundred thousand of them
>>15969053It'll be forever displayed 50% of the real numboo
>>15971519Mito is the guest so normally the views would be good but let's see how it goes
>>15969053not since "They are looking into it", no
33 povs of MK tournament are up, damn this is exciting/depressing
>>15971870Any chance for someone to go 3view or even 2view?
>>15969053they "fixed" something. vod views are taking even longer to verify now.
>>15971870it's like a wuhan pool party.
>>15971519>Naru, one of the lowest viewed Nijis has almost the same numbers as Kanae as a guestGuests don't matter too much, I think.
>>15971981lamy and lui were 3 views during the 12 person practice yesterday.
>>15971981Anya, Choco, Roboco, Mel, maybe Reine and Ollie depending on who's in their set to take their views. 2 digit is impossible, would have to get much much worse, even Holostar rarely get down to 2.
>>15969857They should've hired voca-p or some musician with distinct style instead of whoever make spark of joy. Nothing worst than some half-ass rando making songs just to pay his bills. Do a "collab" instead of commisioned composers. Ado and Pmaru is a good example, also Kamitsubaki with each of their unique designated songwritters
>>15971870This is going to be the mother of all superspreader events
mouse 14k
>>15969857I think it's just passed IRyS
>>15972107>2 digit is impossibleJust you wait
>>15972191Not today, Cobalt Shrew. Ame Day.
>>15969149>nverseImagine joining a group founded by one of Japan's biggest corpo and still get lesser success than some random ass indie with shitty VRmodel
>>15972290Not gonna happen tonight. Maybe someday this month if things keep progressing.
>>15972364I hope they regret turning down a spot in HoloX.
>>15972038>Guests don't matter too much, I think.Kanae's ep got 42k in the summer lolIt's what makes the biggest difference, normally.
>>15970848Topic channels usually has a better quality (album quality) than the one on their channel
>>15972364Now imagine 50 more people signing up to do it.
>>15972460I meant in current times, not days of yore.
>>15972290all chuubas have their loyal fans that always watch them and even anya has enough of them to avoid 2digit
>>15972356happy bday ame, but mouse's stream is kino right now
>>15969149Gura has gotten hit by the cull less than others
>>15972474Mass suicide when?
>>15972516>connornah
Towa had 30k waiting last year. not looking good holobros
>>15972512The issue is....How fast can this progress? Will it continue to progress? Will all of her loyal viewers get flagged, eventually leading her to become a 2view?
>>15971632She finally comes back and Susan does this to her
Nijinoon not breaking 10k with Mito
>>15972692This is a way worse time for JP unfortunately.
>>15970360That one streams literally every day.
>>15972726its over nijisisters...
>top 2 nijigirls together>not breaking 10k
>>15972692So the waiting room is also a problem now?
>>15972726It's already flattened
where is holo_data's "though to" shitThey really were just JP cock sucking numberfags
>>15972726Ahahahaha.AHAHAHAHA.It's happening, even the vaunted NijiJP main channel viewers are getting flagged. Next, we need the tourists to get flagged too so that it'll SPREAD. SPREAD TO THE REST OF THE JP YOUTUBE SCENE! UNTIL ALL ARE SUB 1k!
>>1597269230k at 30 minutes?
>>15972692Were the frames up at the same time last year as well? Towa should have at least set it up so she gets 30 min to intro the tournament with no one else streaming.
>>15972765>holocup 2021 9:30pm - 10pm finals max total ccv 205k>nijicup 2021 9pm-10pm finals max total ccv 260k >holocup 2022 1pm-5pm wont even break 100k total ccv...
>>15972829Forgot the pic
numbers have covid
>>15972898Yeah that's not breaking 10k. Thanks Susan
>>15972903CCVID
>>15972791mito always gets lower numbers when she does collabs unless its with kenmochi
>>15972898oof
I gotchu lazy nip Nijibros
>>15972918ccvid is the new official name for this phenomenom
>>15972936aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh
How long can YouTube actually go without fixing this, seeing it's getting considerably worse every day it passes?
>>15972936>testing the cull on a big streami kneel, and yea that's clearly culled to shit
>>15972512Retard I'm a loyal viewer who always watches my oshi but apparently I'm a bot so Youtube won't count me
>>15972986They have always done polls on Nijinoon
>>15972868>Towa should have at least set it up so she gets 30 min to intro the tournament with no one else streaming.That's exactly what she did
>>15972936AHAHAAH....This is so bad.....
>>15972985As long as they want to.It's not like any of the "major" youtubers remotely care about this shit anyways since they stream on twitch.
>>15973032read the poll title, if you can
>>15972936The funny thing is the likes seem relatively normal, which shows how insanely out of whack any Hololive stream with more likes than viewers within the first hour is.
>>15972936jesus lmao
>>15972985Everyone is laughing at you. Numberfags seething
>>15972936AHAHAHAHHAHAHA11k votes in under a minute with 9.5k CCV.What an ABSOLUTE FARCE.
>>15973032The poll is asking who’s watching NijiNoon in real time
>>15972936>completely dumb, irrelevant questionThis is on purpose.
>>15972985I actually want to see some of the big chubbas hit sub 1k. I also wanna see some mainstream rag pick this shit up and run with it for maximum clickbait.
>>15973037Gura and Okayu are starting their streams at the same time for some reason as well. Everyone else is starting when their group races.
>>15972985If this is machine learning goes wrong until they touch big streams like NASA, Tesla, or Apple
>>15972936Will nijifags finally admit there is something going on?
>>15973127Probably just didn't get the memo and/or accidentally scheduled it wrong. I doubt they'll start if nobody else is starting at that time.
>>15973091Not me. I would never watch Nijishitty garbage.
>>15973129i hope they fire the retard who fucked this
>>15973145the difference is that nijifans aren't numberfags, and largely don't really care about the viewcounter
>>15973129It already did retard. An ASUS stream with 800k viewers waiting got culled to 50k when the stream actually started.
>>15972936Assuming 50% engagement which is pretty generous they have at least 22k watching. More likely closer to 30k
No 10k for you today nijiniggers, try again tomorrow
I just got off the phone with susan. To fix the problem they will be removing waiting rooms starting next week.
>>15973160Gura wasn't sure when she should start streaming, so she's just probs either going to delay it or just screw around until the races start.
>>15973160I mean there's 5 of them with the same start time as Towa, which is why I originally asked if this is how it was last year. They might change it but 5 is a lot of people doing the "wrong" thing.
>>15973200>KOSHIEN KOSHIEN KOSHEIN
>>15973206asus viewbotting
>>15972936I don't know, this seems pretty normal to me. An old english carrier pigeon delivered a not to me that said Nijisanji isn't getting culled. They are going through a genuine recline.
>>15973228thanks Watabog
>>15973091No it says “have watched all of nijinoon in real time”But I’m not watching so I can’t tell if it’s relevant to the program or actually a sly jab at the situation
>>15972936I hope this spells the end of Nijisanji. The entire vtuber space would be so much better off without them.
>>15973324This but hololive
>>15973206Need more examples (not from vtubers streams) so they can't dismiss it as an anomaly
>>15973206Are you absolutely certain that wasn't a waiting room bug/someone editing via inspect element?The stream doesn't have anywhere near the amount of viewers (like we see with Hololive) that would suggest it got culled to shit for real, in fact for the views ~40k viewers sounds correcthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeEXqClMSRE
>>15973307Ah my bad, but I do think they know something is going on
>>15972936Yagoo's such a nice guy. Letting Tazumi borrowing his advanced AI bot to rig the poll.
>>15973324This but all Vtubers. Vtubers are just better off not existing
>>15972936how long did they keep the poll up for and how much did it get?
what the fuck, is nijinoon not breaking 10k todayit actually is getting worse
>>15973324/vt/ tells of an ancient legend of two great dragon brothers. The dragon of the triangle, and the dragon of the rainbow. The two brothers argued over who could better rule Youtube. Their quarrel turned to rage and their violent struggle darkened the platform, until the dragon of the triangle struck down his brother, shattering Youtube.The dragon of the triangle had triumphed, but over time as he realized his solitude the sweetness of victory turned to ash.
>>15973348its real. heres that chat even technoblade commented it
>>15973307It has nothing to do with the situation, its just something Mito came up randomly just like when she asked how many of the nijinoon viewers are grade schoolers the last time she was on.
>>15973469That doesn't even matter, look at the fucking time on the poll."Just now" means under a goddamn minute, and it already has more votes than CCV.
>>15973514Ahhhh shiiiiieeeet.I'm more certain it was a visual bug than not, given that the actual views on the video don't reflect 1 fucking million people.That, or actual fucking bots.
>>15972936nijibros... your numberfagging reps...
>>15973393people in this thread are botting polls from many different companies and posting them here to try and build evidence the problem is more widespread than it is.
>>15973214I think 50% engagement is fair now given that everyone is more aware of the CCVid so they will be more alert, thus more likely to engage with YouTube polls (if only to make the hilarious discrepancy more apparent).
>>15973575Yeah the first thing I thought when I saw that waiting room was "Really? 800k wanted to watch an ASUS event live?".
>>15973575btw only like 1.2k answered the poll they put up I thinkso the AI is still doing a poor job in letting 40k+ bots slipped
https://twitter.com/amanene_kawaii/status/1479298024220553218
Place your bets who is going to reach 2view first excluding the 2views themselves.
>>15973070Wasn't Ame's Bday likes over 20k? She must've had 80k true ccv.
>>15973802did the playbacks reduced?
>>15973786Nah, that's actually more reasonable for a goddamn fucking corporate press release. Who the hell would vote on garbage like that?
>>15973802>Less playbacks>Higher ccvWut
>>15973802is kawaii the gfe agency or am i wrong? also, more confirmation
>>15973917Yes, and that's the vod culling that happens when YT thinks the 'view' was too 'low quality' to count as an actual viewer, for one reason or another. That's been ongoing for at least 8+ months, since the Usaken summer fes, if not earlier.
>>15973961>is kawaii the gfe agencyYep, to the extent that they even have an explicit 'no male collabs' clause. Probably the only EN vtuber group that has something like that.
>>15973575It's not a visual bug retard. It's youtube's retarded bot going crazy.It's literally thinks youtube premium members are bots.
>>15974021They will go far.
>>15973802>>15973917>>15973997What probably actually happened was that the system identified same accounts multiple times and corrected it. Notice that the total watch time actually increased significantly.
>>15973802if the adjusted ccv data was public this whole mess would be much more manageable
man, nijinoon has been straight up stuck for like half an hour, and it won't go over 9.6k no matter what, it reminds me of the peko stream yesterday
>>15974060Not necessarily. But they're more likely to make money all the way.
only 20k ngmi
Would adding the final ccv count to the videos be better? Would you accept that as a "fix" for this problem?
>>15974085(me)>What probably actually happened was that the system identified same accounts multiple times and corrected it.I mean over-corrected (dropping the CCV).
>>1597425622k Towa waiting room going to not actually break 10k when it actually starts.
is there a waiting room tally at least
>25kgood for the timeslotBUT usless since we are having a drought of numbers
>>15974256At least that's guaranteed gold for the tournament (but who cares about golds anymore)
>>1597425627k and rising lol
30k waiting
>>15974377waiting room gold
What a sad, sad existence, where 30k is what people are yearning for...
33k waiting
I hope you guys are ready to accept the waiting room numbers will never be hit
>>15972107smart Anya decides not to stream knowing she will most likely become 2views
33k waiting, lets see how much it'll actually get live
>34k waitingAAAAAHHHHHHH I DONT WANT TO SEE THE MASSACRE
towa farming waiting numbers for ez gold kek
>>15974438I'm betting on drop to 7k
peak waiting room
38k waiting before it started
>>15974438I'm saying it will start with 3k
38k at stream start
>>15974489
I just watched it drop from 35k to 8k in real time, wtf
START ALREADY TOWA YOUR A JUST BLUEBALLING ME OF THINGS THAT WILL NEVER BE
Peak waiting room
38,5k peak
>>15974477not far off
culled to 6k
god i can't watchall those waiting will be lost to the void
Here's your waiting room gold.
>>15974325No. From a pure entertainment perspective I like seeing the number in real time. From a what's good for the creators perspective it's good to see in real time what keeps people watching, what drives them away, and what content people are excited for. There's also the fact that people are more likely to click on a high view stream than a low view one. If I see a stream on 100k CCV even if I have little interest in it I might check it out briefly to see what the big deal is.
FUCK YOU SUSAN
>>15974489actual peak was 38k
>>15972692she is at 37k tho?
This has become so sad to the point we are numberfagging waiting rooms
>>15974501Seems this one wins for peak
also, in niji news, nijinoon failed to get to 10k
First Time seeing double cull at the start first to 26k then sub 10
-82% damn consistent to Towa's channel
Yeah that's a big drop
this would be so funny if it weren't so sad
There's always a drop from waiting room to live you idiots, stop being dramatic
>>15974755>that incline slopeIt's not hitting 25k, is it?
>>15974867Yes, but the numbers were usually quickly recovered, now it takes much longer or straight up doesn't happen
>>15974867Before this the drop would reverse itself within 5 minutes.
>>15974755
>>15974867Yes, and normally it'd recover within 5-10 minutes max. It's the fact that it HASN'T being doing so, and very dramatically at that, that this is now getting meme'd on.
>EN sectionAre they spoiling the the EN New Years outfits? I wonder...
>>15974867The problem is moreso how it's unlikely that it'll recover to the waiting room and beat it.>16k @ 8 mins rn, still 22k to go
>>15974867go away tourist
>>15974877the slope is getting flatter after each stream
>>15974877Probably not. If we're lucky it will reach like 30k
Yeah this won't come close to recovering the waiting room
>>15975035nah, hairstyles are different
>>15974867Not only does it recover far more slowly now if ever, the drop is bigger than it ever was before
>>15974867how about you stop being a narrow-minded retard?
>>15974867Retardchama, go rope yourself
>>15975035Towa said during the lottery stream that ENs new year deigns for the art were original, not their actual outfits
>>15975035nah towa commissioned them and ame is in her normal outfit
>>15974755Literally a Nike logo
>>15974562What if yt genuinely can't handle it though? What if the don't have the infrastructure and scaling their system would be too costly. They're already operating on a loss right?
We quadrupling this number, right?
>>15975223Then it's better to let it rip instead of suiciding like they are now. Their total watch hour will be in the gutter because of this change and the streaming platform is going to death spiral. Their non-contract streamers aren't going to stay on a platform advertising -30% QoQ decline.
>>15975202WE CRAWLING BOYS
>>15975223>can handle streaming live 4k to over 1million people simultaneously>can handle people in chat and voting in polls>can't handle the number they got said delivered dataare you retarded?
How come in Laplus’s recent stream, her peak ccv was lower than Kuzuha’s in his recent stream, but their VOD views are pretty much the same proportionate to their stream length? Because Laplus is being affected more than Kuzuha or something?
>>15975223Firstly I highly doubt it's a computer processing power issue. Secondly I would rather include literal bots as viewers than what we currently have.
>>15975253Just compare the VOD views with last year after 24 hours to see if they inclined/declined.
Susan really hates 20k+ huh?
jesus how many bots do they have
>>15975223>They're already operating on a loss right?Still paid twitch streamer 30M to switch platform. Doesn't look like they are operating on a loss.
i can;t believe these chinks havent died of heart attack yet its due time
>>15975383Laplus's viewers are more affected as percentage. Every channel is different stream to stream based on the audience that watches them. Some are culled by an insane amount, others by a small amount.
>>15975223They could handle it back in november of 2020, all they need to do is can whatever procedures they implemented since then.
20k oh boy...It just... feels awful
>>15975223retardchama google has fuck you money, counting the number of connections to a video stream in the thousands is not difficult...
>>15975530i'll take fucking anything at this point, im number starved
>>15975530Susan?
20k, she is fighting. This is a real fight. Do your best.
What would a 36k waiting room normally have translated to, 60-70k?
>>15975530pekoras tournament > towas tournament
the total view counter already gave up, will be like this until starts processing like 4 hours late
>>15975337Streaming data =/= feeding data to a ml algorithm to determine whether a user is a bot or not.
>>1597567780k ish yeah
>>15975223Anonchama...https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/3/21121207/youtube-google-alphabet-earnings-revenue-first-time-reveal-q4-2019YouTube hasn't operated at a loss for a long while now. That likely was the case prior to Google buying them out and stuffing ads down everyone's throats, but now? Not operating at a loss by a longshot.
>>15975716now come to think of it, the 50k pokemon can mean like 150k...
20K getludwig beatSusan status:IN SHAMBLES
>>15975677No, waiting rooms were pretty much always 150%+
come on towa poll what group is strongest
>>15975749>they can feed frame by frame the audio and video for content IDretard
Do they not stream to Youtube Gaming? Or does Susan just hate them that much
>>15975677its towa so yes 60k-70k. she had 30k waiting last time, peaked 54k
>>15975773That'll get fixed tomorrow.
I'm shocked.Hololive use so many bots and spam acc...
>>15975749dumb poster, the entire point of using ml for these sort of things is for a substantial save on speed and performance for a slight reduce in accuracy.
>>15975677actually depend on whose channel, some rise fast but lower peak than some rise slowly but have high peak
>>15975716I honestly think more and more people are getting flagged every day though, making comparisons unfair.
>Stalling in the early 20ks 20 minutes in when we know there's AT LEAST 38K people in here.It's been more than a week now and this still infuriates me.
>YAGOO comes on screen.>Views drop momentarily.
>>15975879This stream is under YouTube Gaming
>Enter Yagoo>Chat's speed leave Twitch's one on shambles
numberbros..holochads....i aint feelin too good
>>15976015Anon? Were we watching the same stream? The views went up for me.
>>15975886>its already stagnating at 23ki think it is fair to estimate actual peak to be waiting room peak + stream peak.so as of now holo has 61k peakneeds another 190k to beat nijikart
>>15976082There was a ~20 viewer drop ten seconds after he appeared before they continued their rise.
>>15975773New Youtube policy, you can have your numbers back but you must watch (1) Ludwig, Valkyrie, Timthetatman, or Dr Disrespect stream per week for 2 hours.
>>15974867Fucking moron. Streams NEVER failed to regain their waiting room within 5 minutes last year.
"See, it works. You're welcome"-Susan
>>15975879According to selen it's because youtube did some serious fuckery to their validation system that makes them take more than a day to get properly verified, the actual numbers show up on the creator dashboard a day or so after the stream ends, at which point it's useless to everyone.https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1479021115443855360
Ojou numbers.....
>>15976198I'm going to tell YouTube to never recommend their channels and videos to me. Not even going to watch the videos.
in happier news Towa gained 1k subs since the stream started
>>15976358Too high
Chloe is losing the SC race.
>>15975759Their streaming division probably runs at a loss especially considering how much R&D they have been putting into it the past few years. I don't think any streaming companies are profitable right now, even twitch which is much better at milking people than YT.
>>15976400Sub-only mode paying off.
Towa could have surpassed 2021
>>15976198good idea, let's spread the CCVid to them, time to multi stream them simultaneously
>>15976502VOD numbers will (probably)
>>15976287I don't think it's a bug, more likely YT tried to enforce their views verification AI on the ccv. Since processing VOD views already take a long time, doing that on ccv obviously wouldn't work.
>>15976287Right, but it doesn't show up under YT gaming when you look at current streams. even at its nerfed numbers of 23,000, the stream is singlehandedly the 2nd biggest category, and yet its nowhere to be seen.
I can feel the infection spreading. This is like a tribe of Africans embracing an ebola infected corpse at a funeral.
Looks like Susan decided Towa shan't pass 25k? 24 681 was the highest I saw, but couldn't screenshot it.
>>15976494Oh.That's...probably true. The cost of sending that much data to that many people live is no doubt costly, but since none of THOSE numbers are public we can only assume.
>>15976587The Gaming section is SUPER fucky. They probably have some poorly trained AI determining if something should be put in there.
>>15976587shows this for me
>>15976626other pov is starting too, that might've affect the numbers too
>>15976041Susan...Mario Kart isn't even on their list
>>15976496Is it already in Sub-only mode? I'm subbed to Towa already so I can't tell.There are A LOT of spambots in the chat tho, holy fuck.Someone should tell her turning on slow mode would fix it.
don't look at flare or lamy
>>15976705Yeah, they aren't adding this stream to the MK8D list >>15976674
So are all these races happening at the same time?
>>15976870Each group takes 30 minutes sequentially
>>15976769Well they aren't actually playing the game yet. I think it automatically decides which game it should be in based on AI or something
cam on irys....finally 4k after so long...
Irys 4k+???
>>15976287So they told the truth, it takes time to process viewers. They just didn't mentioned that sometimes it takes days to do so I guess making CCV display useless. Looking at how numbers keeps dropping new trash system is probably takes more and more time to process viewers.
>>15976941She was over 4k on her last two streams if not for the culling. More like 8k+ for MC and 6-7k for Carrion
Irys seems to be doing fine for a collab multi pov. Are her viewers recovering from the ccvid?
>IRyS inching closer and closer to 5kIs she the favorite to win or what?
>>15977013This is a multi pov collab though and only less than 10 minutes in
here is another bought streamer like Ludiwg, kinda on the lower side but still, the like to viewer ratiosubscribed just to track his numbers
>>15976987It's use accounts getting flagged, since there are some accounts that take no time at all to process and users not logged in ALSO dont take time to process. Which is why it's spreading, becuase more accounts are being flagged by the idiotic AI day by day.
>>15976750I'm looking at Lamy currently because she's my oshi. I fucking hate Susan, barely 1k...
Fear the vampire.
>>15977077Ame and Mumei are not streaming.
>>15977012If they were, they'd just get reinfected today anyway.But the real answer is that she's the only EOP POV, so they're funneling to her.
Aren't timezones super fucked for everyone? Why are they making this shit when it's Friday 1 PM in Japan and post prime time in most USA.
Mel is getting ready for the next round of audition hires.
>>15977077She's the only EN with a pov.
Irys 6k!!!EN POWER!!!
what if we all go to ludwigs stream and spam emotes for 5 minutes
oh yeah someone should prepare an excel sheet to record post-stream view to compare it in a few hours
Irys' going to break 10k mark my words. EN power
https://streamable.com/mp8kw8You can even count the people in Lupo's chat
Kuroe 1st 4k but irys 8k??? Da fuck?? Jp hate youtube???
>>15977815lemme see if I can record the CCV to be shown on screen
>>15977892is being ahrsh on those with overlapping users.irys is the only En streaming
IRyS benefitting from neither Ame or Mumei streaming it.
>>15978009and remember to dont use top chat
>RNG victoryNumberchads, we in.
Mel is being attacked by the zhangs amd Crypto bots on chat.Is this why she can't break 1k?
>turn on sakamata>hear unrestrained burikko>turn off sakamata
>>15977415Anons have shown that accounts that have never chatted are flagged.Presuming it's relay-like behavior, it's difficult to deliberately flag someone's viewerbase. Trick them into collabing on another channel then starting their own stream right after the collab ends is about the only way.
How is Towa still at 24k with all the other POVs open?
.
>>15978162https://streamable.com/ydxon7here, made sure to wait until there was no spam section from the end of a race
Irys 10k get.
>>15978510Because, rather than open 4+ different streams, some are content to watch the Main POV until their Oshi starts streaming during the other brackets.
>>15977815fucking disgraceful
Any news from team jewtube about the bug reports?
>chloe blowing her load early just like her career
Where were you when IRyS choked infront of tens of thousands?
towa finally passed 25k...
>>15977415just type "spam (x) if you are horni" or something and leave
Final placements
If irys can get 10k do see gura get 30k....
Gura's waiting room 13k...
>Chloe is good at MKgaaaaiiiiiisss, what happened?
>>15979734No way Mumei will stay up for the zako race right?
>>15979759Not happening, because there's Suisei, Pekora, Aqua and La+ in this race.
13k wiating for gura
>>15979856>Fake voice>Fake mannerisms>Fake being bad at Mariokart
>>15979891Well, that depends on her. Her sleep schedule is pretty wacky to begin with, but she might just take a nap right now.
>>15979856She realised she'll get a ton of SC if she wins, alternatively if she loses in a heartbreaking way
>Aqua culled from 9k to 1kjust like her career
>>15978583are you willing to trade your oshi pureness and corrupt her with twitch culture for numbers?
aqua and peko start stream late to farm waiting room number
jp is culled much more than en thats for sure
>>15980343if they didn't know their real numbers i'd feel really bad for Aki and the like
>>15980343because a lot of Japanese people watch multiple streams at the same time.
Akua chat is nutz fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pekora 3k that's f up.
Pekor number
>>15980610Fallen Queen
Shork 20k
>multi pov marika>higher than solo gtavWtf?
Gura might overtake Towa....
>>15980525The guys with the spam accounts are in her chat keeping it moving fast. Meanwhile towa's chat....
>>15981256>major buff tournament vs normal solo streamAnon??Not to mention Gura is the only EN POV, and the dark horse of group B
Holy shit, what's Gura's chat speed
Numbers
Gura 20k & towa 22k???? Youtube technology.
>>15981465Youtube is great math bro.
This is the fastest I've seen Gura's chat in a while.
>>15981465They capping ppl no. yo, it's real.
So why wasn't NijiEN invited to their mario kart tourney again?
>>15981392Kinda low desu
>Gura surpassed the organizer buffSUSAN SENT US BACK TO NOVEMBER 2020
>>15981776Kenmochi hates them
>>15981776Selen refused to let Kuzuha win for free
>>15981776Because they had their own mario kart tourney.
Gura passed Towa
>>15981884SHARK IS THE TOP VTUBER AFTERALL
>>15981884If you triple all numbers, yes
Gura need to win this, if you want big number.
>>15979891You underestimate the power of caffeine and sugar. Not only will she be up, there’s a chance she does a stream right after because she can’t sleep.
Gura:>Wow Suisei is greatGura's oshi:>NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I don't know about you guys, but Aki's struggle to beat being more than just a mid is the most exciting thing of this race for me.
>>15982368gura is running on no sleep and a full bladder. so is zen
>>15982261No, please. I have an early meeting tomorrow Moomers.
>>15982491I'm enjoying the race between Choco and Lapras for 10th from Choco's POV.
If it wasn't for susan fuckery, most of the pov would be 20-30k right now.
>26k and risingChrist one more race and Gura would have beaten the organizer's peak
>gura fucking pekora right at the endpoetic
1 POINT
that's so fucking rigged
Ah gods.NUMBERS FOR THE FINAL BABY
Gura chat....what is this speed???
>>15982368Gura cucked Aqua out of finals
>>15983015bots.
>>15983056She also cucked Pekkers
30 misn stream
>>15983294pekora
>La+ and Koyori to the loser's Cup>Suisei, Towa, Gura to the winner's Cup. RIGGED.WHAT IS THIS HORSESHIT.
Surprised to see spammers in Laplus and gura stream, and not the emote members kind the bots with the Grey names and word salad kind.
>>15983462peckers...
SUISEITOWAGURAadvances
>>15983462jesas
Gura now have a chance to get 30k.
>>15983462That's nuts. What was her peak CCV?
>>15983462>VOD copeOh no no nousagis not like this
>>15983294>>15983462
>>15983294queen of dead subs
I guess Suisei wins again. Very exiting.
>>15983609>>15983294>>15983462Not to rain on anyone's parade since it would make sense for Peko to beat Gura in this timeslot even if they were usually equal (they're not) but using the numbers youtube shows you right after the stream ends hasn't been accurate for months. You need to wait for them to load several hours
>>15983462>Shoe is on the other foot now
Told you guys that they will let gura make it to the finals just for EN audience numbers during finals....
>>15983669ogey
>>15983877How was your sleep?
polka numbers...
So did the EN girls plan for it to only have one EN pov for each cup or is it just a coincidence?
CCV at the end is trach, Towa has less than 40k right now and has been running for the whole thing
>>15984011Probably planned for it for the numbers....
>>15984011Coincidence, because Baelz and Ina both have frames up for D bracket.
>>15984073Yeah I thought people were hypothesizing it took a while (even more than before?) to register now even at the end
>>15984073Yea, it's clearly shitposting. Better to wait several hours after for verification to pass before comparing.
>>15984267It's no hypothesis, it's the truth. Somewhere in August Youtube changed it to no longer instantly load.
>>15982463Can you remind me how to open this page with graphs please?
>>15984073also, I have both Gura and Peko opened, hopefully it starts processing soon so we can see some real data
>Mori hyping 9th placeIs this the meme stream?
>>15984401i noticed that it's gotten even longer this past week. it's even slower than ever. so whatever "real-time" thing they're doing with ccv also applies to the final verification i think.
>Gura funnels her numbers right into MoriLmao EN is dominating the views. Just graduate the entire JP branch
>>15984629She's just happy to not be last (in the weakest group)
>15984686JP is eating a 80%-90% cull right now sono u
>>15984501Nevermind already found it
>>15984501>Vrabi>left menu>Streams per hour (you should know the kanji by now, at least the one for time)>Scroll down until you find the hour you want (14 in this case)https://vrabi.ml/hourly/2022-01-07/14
>>15983294>>15983462>nousagis using VOD copewel well well
Personal bias aside these numbers are fascinating.
>>15984763Chat even ask calli don't embarrass them in front of their Jp friends kek
Anyone got the numbers tally? Too busy watching to read through the thread.
>>15984629I think that getting into top/bottom 3 is better since you get to participate again.
>>15984629Last places go to the "Zako" (noob) cup, she's aiming for those
Why is susan so racist to nips bros?
>>15985004>Jews against nipsgee, I wonder why
>>15985004nip viewers are treated as 1/4th or 1/8th in lamy and ruis cases
COUNCIL POV DOOOOKKOOOOOOO
>>15985004she fears the samurai.
>>15985163lol u get bae thats it next bracket
haha Towa's graph is so funny, drops down when she races because everyone scatters to other povs for the group of death then all those people plus more come back.
word salad bots seem to provide a bump in live views
>>15984763>>15984992>>15984997I understand the Zako cup part, but she has the "I'm really not going to win anyway" vibe going.She's a good hype man though.
>>15985163I'm starting to wonder why only baelz is the only council that has pov...
>>15983462Guras VODs always have way longer legs than Pekoras so that does not mean anything
>there's funny nice about 13k watching me get destroyed at MKMori..you fucking KNOW it's not 13k but more. Why are incompetent managers not circulating this info to everyone?
>>15985279You would expect more people leaving after Aqua and Pego got eliminated too
>>15985424it all dpeends on the content and viewershipsometimes gura is faster other times peko. Just wait some hours
>>15985426Those who watch ONLY them will be gone, but they wouldn't be watching the main POV in significant numbers anyways. Instead, now you have a bunch of chumkeks filling up the ranks because now we have to stay up for Gura in the winner's cup.
>>15985426I expected the chat bots to go nuts if aqua did not qualify
>>15984073Seems like some of the views are starting to get processed, those jumps are around 1k each
Are we beating nijicart yet?
>>15984686>HoloEN gets competent at box-pushing (single POV for weakest member, funneling) right as CCV cull wrecks JP’s numbers
Oh boy, now they gonna let kronii into the finals huh? that's a coincidence Myth and Council most popular members making it to the finals...
>>15986162Kronii isn't even streaming.
>>15986162Retardchama
>>15985711most of the chinese got banned early on
>>15986268I bet she gonna stream during the finals....
Chihiro with less than 1k...
KRONIIII????
>>15984867How the turn tables
In the numbers thread, we obsessively lick Yagoo's shitty anus
>>15969645arguably koreans make better murim shit that the wuxia shit that china pulls out.the imitators surpassed the original
>>15986869thank you for your confession, the rest of holofags don't
group c placements, Miko Watame and Kronii advances
>>15985769Gura still weird
towa 30k
They should really do a 2nd and 3rd tier race too next year and stretch this to 7 hours like the Niji MK tournament.This shit is so good for content and numbers even if a 2nd and 3rd tier race is pointless.
>>15986581>Kronii>not shooting herself in the foot numbers-wise>streaming her POV in a large group collab
>>15987118i was watching gozaru and she got fucked so hard in the cheese race, i feel robbed
>>15987118What did Mio have before the disconnect?
>>15987118mio...
>>15987118Yeah I don't see anyone beating Suisei
>>15987197lmao, look at that graph.fair to say she had twice the viewers of Peko considering the likes.
30k get (no waiting room)
>>15987197>more likes and commentsYou can try..y'know, just waiting for the numbers to stabilize in several hours like anons keep telling you.
>>15987197Damn that's a lot more viewer engagement, could that be another reason why the ENs aren't being hit as hard?
>>15987480that's what I'm doing retard, just replying to the anon that only had one graph open
>>15987244They don't have enough participants to stretch it to 7 hours.
>>15987244>openly talking about hololive shit in the numbers thread>basically admitting the numbers thread is just hololive thread
>>15987762They could have gone for a semi-finals round to stretch things out, but that's another 1hr+ of races and EN would be even more giga-fucked in terms of sleep.
>MK8>No Holosyoutube Gaming is a jokeAlso, does anyone have the scoreboard for Group A? Who got top 3?
Calling it now...Reine, Marine, and Fbk making to the finals...Bae making it to zako finals
>>15987898Hasn't that always been the case? No point in looking at the numbers of those who can't even get them.
>>15987898Fuck off, nijinigger. Go back to your containment thread.
>>15987898There's NOTHING of note happening on the Niji side. Only Chihiro getting shit numbers and both NijiEN that are streaming RN below 1k.
>>15987963Okayu, Kanata, Chloe
Vrabi isn't tracking the tako?
>>15985769
>>15987898here are your niji numbers bro, you can start talking about them now
>Gura 26.8k>Mori 15k>Ina 14k and rising>IRYS 10.5KCOMPLETEENDOMINATION
>>15987898Are there even any Nijis right now worth talking about?
>>15988352huh did chihiro's number got worse ?
>>15988286yeah, seeing that, Towa releasing 20k batches every 5 minutes
>>15986893Korea has a much better developed novel industry compared to Chinese, and seems to be much more drama oriented than the Japanese, which allows them to produce graphic novels with a "period drama" theme that have a better structured story and pacing for many of them. This is probably the one sections that they could dominate if they try to build an industry around it.>America has action>Japan has politics>Korea has drama>China... is still copying everyone else aimlessly...
>>15988522everyone's didlook at nijinoon's numbers from today
>>15988607>>15986893Wuxia shit got bad in recent years. It still uses the same formula. I would've like it if it was more like Lord of the Mysteries with a western themed.
Bae 4k....
Reine definitely making it to the final for ID numbers kek
nousagikeks??
Thank god rui pass 1k mark.....
>>15989099JP culled heavilyYour next line will be cope because that's your argument for your low effort bait
How twitter doing bois? Is it trending?
>>15989295
>>15989295Of course
>>159892951st Japan4th Worldwide
>>15989295NA bros!?
gura won?
Archive views on main stream are ballooning
>>159897653rd of her bracket so she gets in winners tourna
>>15989067Ha! I knew it there's gonna be one ID representative in the finals
>>15989734>It's time to sleep
>>15990026reine i kneel
>>15987197Damn, Gura has DOUBLE the audience interaction and satisfaction that Pekora does?
>>15989616>1st Japan>4th Worldwideand yet completely ghosted by susan
Preliminary match chart
>>15988991It really did. The problem is the China novel industry doesn't try to properly 'novelize' (serialize) their stories after they become popular as webnovels, so they basically translate the stories pretty much 1:1 straight to manhua, along with all it's flaws (pacing, plot holes, repetitiveness).
>>15990152>satisfactionWhat kind of lingo is this?
Towa finally break that 30k cap.
>>1599032933k now wtf
>>15990280That battle for second and third in group B was pure KINO
Winner's Cup:Block A: Okayu, Chloe, KanataBlock B: Suisei, Towa, GuraBlock C: Watame, Miko, KroniiBlock D: Marine, Subaru, ReineLoser's Cup:Block A: Lamy, Flare, MumeiBlock B: Koyori, La+, ChocoBlock C: Noel, Mio, CalliBlock D: Nenechi, Bae, Kiara
>>15990280>peko cucked at the enddamn
>>15990280That group of death dueling for 2-4 was nasty AF.
>>15990485Gura just edging out Pekora in the end to claim the last spot in the finals was very symbolic. Gura is now the queen of the cull and has surpassed Pekora in vtubing as well. It was like a passing of the torch.
>>1599041735k now.
>>15990417100k real viewers probably
>>15990658>he says, in a RNG heavy game
>>15990280You can tell how Mori was losing on purpose, there's no co-relation between her placements and everyone else
>>15990731>Towa 100kgood joke
>>15990417Races wrapping up and people going to main POV waiting for the next race to start in 27 minutes.
>>15990690no other streams going and anyone not blocked tabbed in
>>15990280Ina phoned it in fucking hard. That was genuinely irritating.
I'm curious how this break will affect viewers. I'm sure a lot of people will close the stream then come back, maybe that will reset the waiting room debuff?
>>15990780>Youtube is equivalent of Marika RNGI can see that
>>15990780>implying the entertainment industry isn't an RNG heavy industry
>>1599041737k
>>15991014>bye byethat and eops not knowing any better
Well break time before the zaku cup. There goes the incline.
Couldn't beat the waiting room by less than 1k.
>>15991198fucking weird flat graphs man, incredibly unnatural
>EN CCV TOWERING JPS POV EXCEPT FOR THE MAIN POVLAST SAMURAI U GOOD?!
Bae...
>>15987898>This shit is so good for content and numbersI know reading is hard, but come on
>>15991411Anonchama, I know the shitposters have been irritating for months, but at this point you really, really REALLY need to take some meds and chill the fuck out.
>>15991498rage quit and didn't end stream
>>15991498she is offline
just some VOD samples right after stream endmarine 13k ccv 83k VODsubaru 7.5k ccv 43k VODfubuki 4.9k ccv 64k VODluna 2.2k ccv 13k VODafter 1 hr aqua 10k ccv 58k VODpeko 10k ccv 97k VOD
>>15991571yeah not sure why the stream isn't closing
>>15991477>3 hrs stream only 200k+wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>15991745Zako cup? I think because her VOD views is low, she doesn't want to have another frame for it?
>>15991745this also happened to watson and gozaru in the last couple of days, i have no idea why it happens
>>15987898Neck yourself nijinigger. 98% of your Livers have always been entirely irrelevant in the numbers thread, so obviously Hololive would be massively talked about here.
>>15991842God I hope not I don't want to get stuck with just Mori's POV for EN.
>>15987898Go back to your discord Nijikek. This is a Hololive board.
Towa started processing, 20k each 5 minutesGura and Pego are still in the shadow realm
>>15992051Those fucking stairs.
>>15989295Hololive's events usually trend well while they are going on. Their "issue" was more of getting them to trend after announcement and before they start for better hype / PR
>>15991972You're not in global anon
>>15990280Suisei is fucking insane
>>15991129RNG plays a big part but skill is a big deal too, just like mario kart. Viewers wouldn't have stayed after the boom if the holos weren't good streamers, for example.
https://p2y.jp/vtuber-shibuya-hal-and-others-point-out-that-a-problem-has-occurred-regarding-the-number-of-simultaneous-viewers-of-youtube/Keep it up numberfags we can fight susan.
Why can't nousagis be as good sports as Pekora?
>>15992342the complaints pretty much stopped when they replied to ShibuyaHAL, they are "working on a fix"
>>15992342
>>15992373my ywnbj soul is offended
>>15992313That's the whole point. You can be a shitter and strike fame from the bottom, and be a prodigy eternally down in the dumps, but with luck and timing, even a mid can be a superstar. There is a reason "15 minutes" is a common term after all.
>>15992471>get canned response from youtube>go silentFucking nip nops
>>15992373Because Gura doesn't care about numbers, unlike chumbuds who won twelve consecutive Olympic golds in mental gymnastics for both normal Olympics and Paralympics in trying to make their narrative work.
>>15992471They shouldn't stop desu.
>>15990658>surpassed PekoraPekora is literally not "the queen" anywhere but in nousagis minds. Reminder that it was always the sub games vtubers played by. Otherwise you can make the absurd claim that somehow, Kuzuha is a Gura tier (or better) vtuber, when he gets mogged by 50% of Hololive in popularity.
>>15991787Something tells me 2 pm in Japan isn't the best streaming time for a big event like this.
>>15992373Pekora is currently samefagging in 10 5ch threads shitting on Gura
The cup has been trending #1 in Japan for a few hours.
>>15992645oh no no no he's seething lmao
>>15992645Kek
>>15993065Nah chumbro you can keep those gold medals, you deserve it
>pekora vs gura timeloopah, it almost feels like everythings normal again
>>15993288Pekora vs Gura is the backbone of this thread. Maybe if Nijis put up A TINY AMOUNT OF A FIGHT we wouldn't have to numberfag blue woman vs blue woman
>>15992723skimmed though TeamYT replies, from japan, you see >the usual monetization stuff>channels being hacked by the ripple crypto scam>people complaining about the spambots (those that post 5 messages per second)last related reply is from [pic rel]
Ngl I'm legit pissed about the lack of effort my oshi put into the tournament. She is good enough to get to winners but had total 1 practice stream
>>15972107>>15972419>>15972512Uhmm, anonkek??????>>15991498I was just joking...
>>15988299Chii-chan usually gets at least 2.5 times that. Has she been cursed?
it's zako time
how fast is /vt/ going?
>>15993664
>>15993442hopefully they realize that it's on their BEST interest to fix this, their new poached streamers just started streaming consistently and it would be really really REALLY bad if Q1 shows a decline in CCV
>>15993664it was crazy fast for group b
>>15993518Looks like it. I checked a couple days ago and she was still averaging 2.5k with Apex.
>>15993518>>15993813This stream will likely be her lowest in record
>>15993758I can see the headlines>Despite YT effort to bring a new audience to their platform by bringing popular streamers like Ludwig, FB Gaming surpassed their [whatever metric they use] in Q4, *shows the decline graph*If I were Susan I would just say >look how easy is to become popular in our platform!
Combine 100k ccv is real?
Is the Mario Kart tournament going to accelerate Hololive’s CCVID?
>>15995162I have to theories>this finished up flagging more accounts as bots>this finished up training the algorithm to process the CCV fasterit will all depend on what Susan says, pretty sure their devs are looking at this tourney right now, it's the best test subject
number bros, what are the odds?
>>15995530JESASshe haven't enough i see
I'm enjoying the tournament but holy shit these numbers are depressing
>>15995530depends on her placement, that's pretty average for a mid placement racer
Zako match chart
>>15995530That's good luck when you're highly placed anon
>>15995698choco...
>>15995810The grand Zako cup winner! (Lowest score wins) two times in a row!
Pekora absolutely robbed of 10k
>>15995643look at the bright side, the ENs seem to have near normal numbers
>>15995698Nene got fucking robed in the last race. just hit with everything and the kitchen sink right in front of the finishing line
>>15995884it feels like 10k and 20k are hard cap
>>15995884yeah, we have seen this cap on Kuzuha too, the graph goes matrix nope when closing to the nearest thousand
>>15995162Yes, it will turn Gura into sub 10k streamer and turn Pekora into sub 5k. I'm also willing to bet that Anya will reach double digits.
>>15995887She’s like that cool (and hot) friend’s aunt that doesn’t really know how to play vidya but likes to hang out and play for fun with the lads (and that is old enough to buy booze and ciggies)
>>15995162if everyone is 3view tomorrow, then the job is done. azki will be the sole survivor with her 2k og pioneers
>>15995884Pekora got robbed of way more than that.
no gura stream?
>>15995698Missed Baelz
>>15996156Yes but the point is how hard the “algorithm” goes to prevent the streamer from reaching the next thousand. Happened to Toya and Kuzuhs as well
>>1599621245 minutes
>>15996269Pajeet bot predicts what the CCV should be after cutting it and doesn't let it go above that.
>>15995884some VODs started processing too>110 for pegokek, what a timing
Move here when you fags done>>15996280>>15996280>>15996280
I can see itokayu will win this time
>>15996212Who knows if she bothers to put up a stream for it. She sounded out of it at the end of the B bracket races.
>>15996212Gura was awake for more than 24 hours fretting over MK8, she probably crashed.
>Look at vrabi and live-rankingIs this a slow day?
>>15996759
>>15996759>anon doesn’t knowPoint at him and laugh
>>15996812>>15996821I mean there aren't so many vtubers that streams
Gura fell asleep
worldwide trends
>>15996921>assuming she asleep instead of having nervous breakdown
>>15996921She's just not streaming for some reason.
>>15997157She's definitely in low energy mode. She sounded like she really wantes to sleep but then she realized she made top 3 and sounded like she wanted to swear up a storm.
>Gura not streaming her finalWhy does she hate numbers so much?
>>15996921>>15997157she's in full sweaty mode anon
>moving the schedule forward 15 minutesProbably going to fuck the numbers since a lot of people only care about the finals
>>15997381still haven't gone to restroom. holding it in to stay awake. reine doing the same.
How long will the tournament last?
>>15996986>Gura: No problem
Where's Kronii's and Gura's stream?
>>15997547These are the last 6 races, so like 25 more minutes
>>15997741>no numbers for your nigger
>>15997741Gura is getting really sweaty and focusing on racing so she isn't streaming.
>>15997741kronii didn't stream in the first place and gura is probably running on fumes so didn't want a super low energy stream
>>15997741Gura is believing
>>15997741Towa told Gura to stop streaming because she was embarrassing her POV in numbersGura didn't pay attention to anything after "stop streaming" and started shouting "oh thank god".
>>15998344Your seethe for revenge is nothing delicious.
I don't understand both Kronii and Gura. If they were to stream, they'll earn $2-3k alone. NijiEN members would've jumped the chance to stream, then do a long zatsu session after the tourney to milk more.
Suisei 10k
>Viewers dropping as Gura is losingWhen will they learn...we want pristine pinky cunny, not roasted loose pussy used goods.
GOOWA IN THE LEAD DON'T FUCKING CHOKE GOOWA
>>15998767roru.
>>15998767fuck blue shells
>>15998767rumao
>>15998767you fucking jinx
Numbers after round 4
>>15998963nasty