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Why is Nijisanji's 3D better than Hololive?

>> No.15929469

SOVL vs souless

>> No.15929494

Cant see shit

>> No.15929570

>>15929292
These don't even look good

>> No.15929687

Hololive is a small indie company pls andastand

>> No.15929713

>>15929292
Because Hololive's tech is a joke, below freeware trash.

>> No.15929741

>>15929292
Hololive only does live 3D, Nijisanji is prerecorded.

>> No.15929768

>>15929741
>Hololive only does live 3D
dyrbi

>> No.15929772

>>15929292
Chink Tech
Just like with Kamitsubaki (vwp), Zhang Tech is superior

>> No.15929785

>>15929741
>Hololive only does live 3D
lol

>> No.15930127

>>15929741
>Hololive only does live 3D
When was the last time they did this?

>> No.15930410

>>15929292
kek those look great for a ps2

>> No.15930446

Holosharts btfo https://youtu.be/zoynMroawZw

>> No.15930689

>>15929772
>chink tech
Everything Nijisanji did is in-house. And Nijisanji literally give Virtual Real all technology.

>> No.15930743

>>15930127
literally luna like 3 days ago

>> No.15930803

>>15930689
Chink is in the house

>> No.15930868

>>15930803
There is no chink in Japan.

>> No.15930886

>>15930689
Virtua Real isn't using Nijisanji 3d tech

>> No.15931242

>>15929292
What is this muddle garbage?

>> No.15931595

>>15930743
>Luna
>Live

>> No.15932781

https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000183.000030865.html
Ichikara invested millions in upgrading and developing their own 3D tech, they also moved the main studio to a bigger one in Tokyo and filled it with motion capture cameras worth 10k USD, stuff like that was all over the news last year...

Of course they have the best 3D tech, they have to.

>> No.15932859

Why is OP such a tribal shitflinging faggot?

>> No.15933228

>>15929292
It has to be. Niji's approach is to create an ecosystem that gives as many people as possible something to be into, so group activities need to be hacked up by an extremely robust 3D system that accommodates a wide variety of activities.
It's simply the result of a difference in focus.


>>15932781
I wonder if they have a custom engine.

>> No.15933384

>>15933228
>Niji's approach is to create an ecosystem that gives as many people as possible something to be into, so group activities need to be hacked up by an extremely robust 3D system that accommodates a wide variety of activities
Sounds pretty fucking cool desu. Too bad that didn't work out for them. People would rather watch Holo girls being cute instead.

>> No.15933884

>>15933384
It still does in Japan, just look at how popular NJU was. But obviously, having an extremely well-built 3D system will only work for a global audience if all of your talents live in the same country. So, while Holo spent its money branching out to the west, Niji stayed in Japan.

>> No.15933925

>>15930743
That was a good one, I kekd quite hard.
But any actually real examples?

>> No.15934739

Wow
https://streamable.com/kvq21q

>> No.15938579

>>15934739
VtL is such an OP song.

>> No.15938646

>>15929741
>Holo
>Live 3D
Lmao

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Niji doesn't have Towa so it doesn't matter

>> No.15938801

To cover for their terrible practices that force their talents to leave and a convenient way to hide their money laundering.

>> No.15940408

>>15930868
What a big fat lie

>> No.15941443

>>15929292
They literally use Chinese tech and hire professional dancers.

>> No.15942478

>>15930446
The silver devils performance is the cutest shit I've seen since this year began.

>> No.15946275

Pretty impressed with the jump rope tracking they have but it's still prone to bugging out.
https://youtu.be/ZjQlKmoFBuA

>> No.15948911

>>15934739
Fuuuck... VTL never gets old does it

>> No.15949650

>>15946275
gonna need MORE fps to track that shit

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>> No.15950160

>>15929741
Good one anon, had a hearty chuckle.

>> No.15951707

>>15946275
The problem with rope jumping seems to be the persons aren't the same height as their model, I don't think it will ever work out.
That and other shit like the ping pong or soccer matches they did are still impressive though

>> No.15951782

>>15929292
>why is Nijisanji's 3D better than Hololive
It isn't

>> No.15952073

>>15951782
Completely agree. Nijisanji's 3D is not better than Hololives... because, compared to Nijisanji's 3D, Hololive doesn't have 3D at all, maybe 2.5D at most, but most likely somewhere like 2.25D.
In other words, Holo is not there yet to even start comparing it with something like Niji 3D.

>> No.15952943

>>15951782
>>15952073
Hololive has some nice lighting when it comes to their Youtube concerts, there's something about the shiny hair that looks nice. I saw Korone's concert where she sang Renai Circulation.
Their models also fit the people's heights better than Nijisanji who have way more 'diverse' models, super tall and super short, even if the person behind it doesn't match. Not really 3D's issue more like the company's issue

>> No.15953653

>>15952073
>>15952943
Astel's 3D was higher quality than anything Nijisanji has done.

>> No.15953799

>>15929772
Kamitsubaki uses the same tech as Miku anonchama..

>> No.15953932

>>15953653
It really wasn't. You obviously don't watch Niji3D

>> No.15953996

>>15929292
To me, it seems like Nijisanji are more willing to use a greater amount of post processing effects. Holo 3D (outside of major concerts like holofes) feels very "flat" in comparison.

>> No.15954114

>>15953653
He had really good FPS performance in his. I thought all those whales and lights would make it lag but it didn't lag too badly. Like I said they have good 'concert' lighting. The singing portions looked nicer than the fucking around portions.

>> No.15954448

>>15929292
>>15949937
Niji is indeed has a superior 3Dtech. Too bad it's all wasted on their shitty character designs. Only handfulls are actually looking good with their techs. As for the rest of them, the good 3D just make it more clear how shitty the designs and how it just doesnt "fit" the given techs. Kinda like rendering those shitty cctv footage into 4k

>> No.15954850

>>15954448
Why are their character designs so bad anyway? Do artists just not put in any effort because they don't get paid enough compared to other companies?

>> No.15955185

They started as a 3D company if I'm not mistaken, and they transition to live2D later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R91NunKqu-I

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15955287

Yagoo is too busy investing all the capital into NFTs and his metaverse project.

>> No.15955389

>>15953653
No it really wasn't. It was very high quality but that's about it.
Niji has far better 3D tech than Cover does. But this is just another retarded tribal thread started by a holobrony that doesn't watch Niji so I don't know why I'm responding to it.

>> No.15955476

>>15955185
They started in 2D. It was Hololive who started in 3D, that's why Roboco and Migo and one other I forgot is in 3D

>> No.15956495

>>15954850
Because some people enjoy something that isn't "anime girl with animal ears"

>> No.15966994

>>15929741
It is not prerecorded, but if you watched shout you can clearly tell these other events are using synchronization stuff for the larger group parts. Honestly the rumors about "actors" is pretty believable outside of the actual small group stuff.

>> No.15967188

>>15966994
If you watched concerts you can tell they're not actors, Ryushen sounded like shit and was sluggish during the rock concert because she didn't sleep, and Akina hurt himself somehow in the middle of it so he was walking around all injured

>> No.15967398

>>15967188
ESL learn to read. I said when its small groups its not actors, but for the larger group stuff it probably is or they used the synchro stuff like during maos 3d

>> No.15967411

>>15932781
>Invested
more like sony did

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15973896

LOL
and this was a paid event

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>> No.15974069

https://files.catbox.moe/ogqrmo.gif

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>> No.15978391

>>15974069
collective Boneitis

>> No.15978591

>>15967398
it's extremely obvious when they're just synching models like with mao's 3d because everything was literally perfectly synched in a way no real group could do, that is very much the exception and not the rule

>> No.15983708

>>15975362
>>15929292
literally paid actors, this is the same as the league of legends worlds event https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9oDlvOV3qs
you can still only see it through the screen, you really believe the people there are watching the avatar on stage through their eyes? lmao

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>>15983708
I love how hard you're trying to cope

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>> No.15989242

>>15988733
is more about you being an schizo, do you think their avatar generates a reflection of their own or even go as far as thinking they are real and they are standing there too?

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>>15983708
I think you are retarded, the crowd is obviously watching a screen. They show it in every concert. There are AR cameras above it that show what it would look like as if they were actually there. But what the crowd sees is a flat screen, and TV screens that show the cameras projecting this AR hologram. You know
augmented
reality
?
AR?

>> No.15991042

>>15989294
wtf are you quoting me for? i'm not defending hololive but saying that nijis aren't doing some bladerunner shit where they put the hologram on the stage for live people to see it, all those webm are recorded by the staff, the people irl are not experiencing the same thing, they are just watching a normal performance on a screen, look at how the musicians don't even flinch at anything, because they are too busy playing to see the screen #4 to understand what's going on when they are supposedly right next to them

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