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Last thread >>15829705

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General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

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>>15836135
a retarded OP to attract even more schizos?

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>>15836135
>dead hours
>dead numbers
it's over

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i become /numb/

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Come home

[Anonymous No.]

tell me its going to be alright bros

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UwU

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Did anyone else drop their oshi for reclining too hard? I dropped more than 2 holos now, they just can't seem to maintain good viewership.

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Honestly i'm just interested in if this causes any chuubas to have mental breakdowns.
I hope it does.

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Numberbros, your tweet is getting mocked on reddit of all places...
https://twitter.com/creativeTANAKA/status/1478332741636997125

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>Ina regains 60% of her waiting room within seconds
uuh?

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>>15836429
there was no point in posting on lsf. that place is only obsessed with the drama between their community not helping anyone

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>>15836409
I’m a Kuzubro since his indie days but he failed to get 10k twice today so now I’m a LuxiemBro missile!

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>>15836409
what a bait

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>>15836429
Honestly that guy makes me wish I didn't watch vtubers.

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>>15836429
The retarded OP did the equivalent of trying to saviorfag a Holo at NijiEN general

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>>15836429
lol at the "YT has an interest in higher viewercount for it's streamers" guy.

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>>15836429
Is over, veibae won, time for yagoo to admit of using bots

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Ina
waiting room 4.2k
Stream 2.7k (5 minutes in)

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>>15836429
who the fuck thought posting there was a good idea?

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>>15836429
I thought Valkyrae's numbers were down?

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who watches this shit

Alright here's my actual non-troll theory. Youtube probably doesn't like when people have multiple streams open. A lot of Vtuber viewers do this. Twitch doesn't care about this, and actually has tools for it.

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>>15836497
it's the usual for EN, JPkiddies need to learn how to cope. They shat on us back then, we won't help when it's their turn.

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Why is Rosemi in specific getting hit the hardest out of any EN? Because she has a lot of overlap with holos maybe?

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>>15836429
https://twitter.com/TeppelinTri/status/1478438184581152770

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>>15836599
It's very possible that this is the reason SOME EN (Gura, Ina, Chicken) aren't getting butchered. They're not directly overlapping/ box pushing, they instead own a time slot.

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Vtubers are like buying Girl Scout mint cookies. Nothing more, nothing less.
I don't drop my pants unless it's a girl from Onlyfans or something.

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>>15836429
Speaking of numbers
>3.1K views
19 Retweets
1 Quote Tweet
69 Likes

The video was at just over 100 views a few hours ago and is seeing a lot of traction, way too much to be from the reddit.

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>>15836429
>Going to the zoomer shithole known as LivestreamFail
I don't even use reddit but I've heard bad stories of that place

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>>15836429
This is like complaining about HoloEN getting culled to HoloJP weebs.

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>>15836599
I don't expect them to count multiple streams. If there's no way to tell which is actively being watched, they should just count you for the first stream you open and leave it at that.

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>>15836429
C****e

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i'm eager to see the numbers tomorrow

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>>15836667
That tweet actually showed up in my "For You" tab now that you mention it (I hadn't clicked on it beforehand).

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>>15836624
Nah, Pomu has an extremely heavy overlap with Holo EN watchers and she has not been that heavily effected thus far.

[Anonymous No.]

The magic is gone.

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>>15836409
my oshi hasn't streamed since xmas...

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>>15836639
Gura has a lot of Gura-only watchers that wouldn't trip any of the new alleged "bot flags".

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>>15836429
What are these Anglo niggers talking about? They dont have any possible evidences. Also I dont even get your point either, Anglo subhuman

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>>15836624
She's carried by Selen and Pomu collabs.

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>>15836610
>we

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>>15836409
Nope, I've actually been watching more Watame now because i don't jump through other streams too, to see what they're up to and leave a like.
It might be considered bot behavior.

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>>15836667
maybe the retard wasn't so retarded after all

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>>15836409
if this is unironic bait you should consider killing yourself

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Ina 4.2k
12 minutes to regain the waiting room numbers

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>>15836728
Doesn't she mostly overlap Kiara fans?
Kiara doesn't seem to be affected THAT much compared to others (mostly due to owning her own slot).

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>>15836599
Given that Twitch plays ads right when you join a stream and viewing multiple streams increases your chances of seeing an ad break, chat hoppers may actually be beneficial for Twitch and it's advertisers

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I need Gura to hit 20k tonight to restore at least bit of my sanity. Please Shork, show us what you are made of.

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>>15836624
She was most affected by the cull

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>>15836950
She has the fakest fanbase of all time, looking at her sc revenue and live viewership stats. At least root for someone with a legitimate fanbase like Pekora or Marine.

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>>15836950
It's a GTA stream so there's a chance, unless she changes it to HALO

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>>15836950
She has no overlap so it's possible, but even then I don't think it'll happen.

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>>15836135
>Mogged by Roberto of all people

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So do you guys think youtube will try to stealth fix it or leave it as is? Because it's probably not their intention to have streams with 3 digit views but 5 digit likes if they wanted to compete with twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>youtube patches viewboost exploits
>anons in the numbers thread freak out
>start discussing ways around the patch
pretty much openly admitting to boosting

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>>15836429
Ledditors are literal NPCs lol, imagine not having the critical thinking skills to realise a corporation owned by Google might have ulterior motives

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>>15837105
they leave it as is, we just accept that CCV is a dead metric in its entirety and become vod copers

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>>15837105
don't know but the longer it stay the greater the damage

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>>15836135
OH NO NO NO NO

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>>15837017
Just because kids can't donate anon that doesn't mean they don't exist

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>>15837117
>same behavior as kpop stans
disgusting

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>>15836950
I want Gura to hit 10k or less. The faster we get to obviously ridiculous numbers, the faster Youtube will be forced to admit that something is wrong.

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I've been telling you guys to look at vod instead but no one listen. Only jerking to these fakeass CCVs.

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>>15837105
Depends how bad it gets, ironically if we see Holos with double digit viewers in a few days that's good because it's more likely to get fixed

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Will Ina reach 6k? Mori had a median of just slightly over 6k and peak of 6.7k on her most recent JK stream, and generally Ina gets about the same or just slightly better CCV numbers than Mori.

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>0 (you)s
the poor bait post, isn't working...

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INTRODUCING THE SECOND HOLOCAUST

HAPPY NEW YEAR

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Corpo bros

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>>15837298
Based.
Fuck Holobronies

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>>15837298
that nose has a very strong downward curve

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>>15837316
What are her normal numbers like?

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damn, I wasn't a bot a couple days ago but I'm a bot now
wtf...

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>>15836429
>lsf
Why would twitchniggers care what happens on youtube specially if it doesn't affect their favorite eceleb and their circle of friend like xqc or chinktv.

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>>15837278
mori's jump king is a buff
but not sure about ina's mario kart.

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Kuzuha suddenly has a very high like rate. This is sus. I think they must've started culling VODs to some degree too.

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>>15837387
Those are the Sony vtubers. Last time I saw they were getting very low views, like 20 or so. It looks like Sony is powerful

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>>15837387
According to playboard, about 50% higher than that

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>>15837105
They will fix it, but it's obviously not an easy fix, otherwise it would probably be fixed already. People that think that Youtube doesn't care or want to specifically sabotage Vtubers are retards.
For Youtube, streaming is a separate business to video on demand, it's a completely different peace of the pie that is currently dominated by Twitch, and they want those Twitch money. Even if the revenue is not that big, it's still money left on the table and no corpo will ever leave money on the table like that if they can help it. For streaming business wrong CCV is a disaster, because why would I as a creator want to stream on a website that will forever show me as a 2view. So they will be forced to fix it.
Also, this shit is already affecting normie streamers. If it actually spreads like anons suggest, Sooner or later everybody will be affected.

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Selen is almost breaking 1k

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>15837184
samefag, please.

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>>15837485
Alan Wake is such a ffucking good game. I'm glad Selen is playing it

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>>15837440
Nah, that is normal. I don't think Nijisanji is getting culled. They are going through a natural decline.

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>>15837440
Or people have noticed the numbers are fucked and are starting to like streams more to show they are actually there

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>>15837472
It's funny that it's spreading like a plague that got supercharged from the Christmas relay.

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>>15837457
No that's the Crunchyroll shill one, Versen have been getting fucked in the ass too though

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>>15837440
that's a 1hr stream, vod views are fine

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>>15837017
Gura is the Hero of Children, unlike that faker Pakora

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>>15837472
>affecting normie streamers
you have some examples?

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>>15836135
Why is she drawing a two view?

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>>15837472
The thing is, Twitch is the undisputed market leader in streaming and they do no filtering of viewer counts whatsoever, and viewbots have no meaningful impact on their business
There's no reason for Youtube to do this, all it does is make their numbers look worse and make their streamers mad at them

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>>15837632
kek

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>>15837568
It's probably looking for matches among accounts that got flagged as spambots, so it slowly gets other accounts that have something in common with the previous accounts

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>>15837632
>Supporting small vtubers
Saruei-sama, I kneel

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>>15837568
Can we officially call this chuuba covid?

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Korean Holo animation channel on the rise

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At this rate if any of the hologirls dont atleast try to stream on twitch by the end of the month they're fucking dumb.
Just do it use what ever excuse but come on at least try it.
Youtube kill half of their subscribers each new gen and kill their live viewers but they are still not trying another alternative?

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>>15836219
I got tired of waiting for someone to do the usual OP

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>>15837423
MK streams are definitely a universal buff right now what with the tournament coming up.

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>>15837590
This one is way worse and over twice as long. Assuming Subaru actually had 10k in a waiting room her VOD views are still pretty low for what could've been at least a 25k stream, but she has a shitton of likes. VODs must be getting culled for consistency as well.

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>Chicken debuff
Fuck off Kiara we need the data

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>6.5k Ina
Didn't she used to get like 15k on MarioKart? This even has chicken in it...

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No one streaming at this moment was affected by the Nike / Waiting room bug

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Tell me everything is going to be alright...

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>>15837732
this, they can just use youtube to dump their VODs

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>>15837732
>Owned by a jp company

Anon, they are cucks, they never like to change their shit up.
Conservative and very old minded on their ways in their society

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>>15837851
10k to 15k yes

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>>15837175
Gura actually gets an insane amount, considering she streams so little and never reads SCs.

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>>15837851
No she didn't unless it was a collab and she was winning or some shit. Do not just make up Ina numbers, she's very consistently 9-10k, 15k is nowhere near her average for any type of content, not even Minecraft

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>>15837823
Resdit Duck just naturally reclined after she finished the meme game. Miko had a 300k+ VOD by the way. Much stronger than Reddit Duck.

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>>15837732
>Expecting a JP corpo to adapt swiftly
LOL

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>>15836624
>VR
Probably because her fans didn't like it when she stole that idea from other vtubers?

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>>15837851
Her last stream with Kiara got less than 8k

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PSSSSSSSSSST
>HEY NIJIBLOKES
Help me understand this: how the fuck the "Gwelu Line" inclined? Did Gwelu told people to go watch it?

It incline on an overlap with the man himself streaming, wtf?

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>>15837395
Good, Emote/memeword spammers are subhumans and I’m glad YT is finally treating them as such.

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>>15837954
baased

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>>15837926
With double of the duration

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>>15837954
Maybe someone mentioned it. Happened few months ago when Niji EN mentioned that stream and it spiked to 300 or so.

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>>15837954
A blank stream gets up to half the numbers as Flare, kekk

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>OOF
Selen is getting hit as well. Not as hard (yet), took her 12 min to get her 1k waiting room back then another 12 minutes to pick up another 200 viewers

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>>15837948
Her last stream was post 2021 cull. Pre cull numbers:
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/inanis
>【Mario Kart 8DX】 Training Arc Ep.1
8,228 / 9,682
>【Mario Kart 8DX】 ZOOM
8,252 / 9,349
>【Mario Kart 8DX Tournament】 LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS EN x ID Tournament!!
15,947 / 22,634 <----major Buff here for her, not typical numbers
>【Mario Kart】 Tako Eats Delivery Simulator
9,157 / 11,286

It's important to know that her last Kiara Mario kart stream:
-was split POV
-was explicitly advertised as a Kiara collab, this is an impromptu collab

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>>15837922
she gets a ton from membes-only streams but you can't see it, and new rule that you can monetize unarchived karaoke help her the most. she will fine

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>>15837954
Probably he did what you said in the last thread. It is almost back to normal right now

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>>15838117
Nah. That's her normal numbers and also she's playing a debuffed game.

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>>15837823
She only played Yakuza for and hour and a half then talked for an hour. VOD looks to be roughly inline with this:
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/WL1eGrp2xr8
So about her standard 20k give or take Yakuza 0 stream.

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>>15837922
Gura does read superchats often enough. And when she does she averages like 3k per stream. Not gonna be Rushia any time soon but this is honestly more than fine.
And yes she makes a lot of bank in member streams because that's when she's the most interactive with chat.

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>>15837613
From one of the reddit threads posted here, I haven't verified it myself
>I never see pewd had less than 10k viewers before, the same case as my local Youtuber HRK that had like 40-50k average viewers per stream dropped to 20-30k since Christmas.

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>>15838277
Define "often", she reads and she gets good amount sure.

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It looks like Myth is impacted a lot less than JPs and Council just from eyeballing it. I still see cuts in their numbers, and they're most obvious with Gura/Mori, but Kiara and Ina are reaching numbers not that different from some of their mid tier streams, whereas JPs are being slaughtered below all time lows.

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>>15838117
>>15836624
selen and rosemi have collabed for the nye vrchat thing didnt they. I wonder who infected who here

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>>15838454
At least once or twice a week, which considering a lot of her content recently has been karaokes or collabs, is sure as shit more than "never". If you want someone that literally will not do superchat readings, that's Ina.

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If the "infected" theory is true, the algorithm should also allow for healing (assuming non pajeet logic). Maybe try watching some other streams like valkyrae/ludwig to 'heal" accounts proven to be counted as bots? Try engaging with popular YT content (music, big view gaming stuff). Just ideas for anons actively doing tests.

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>>15838459
Gura's GTA will be a good test subject for today, she hasn't get below 20k iirc. And her karaoke on 1/9, might be her first that will fail to get 30k.

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>>15838277
Her per stream average is super high. I think only Ayame and Rushia are higher than her. Gura does very well with superchats.

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>>15838624
im aint doing shit anon, i didnt create this problem

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>>15838659
Shh let's not start rationiggering before the
>muh 3.7 million subs and this low
Schizo wakes up

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>>15838624
>Maybe try watching some other streams like valkyrae/ludwig
yeah, in a million years

[Anonymous No.]

>look at Holostats
>most of the peak viewers from yesterday are all from the waiting room
fucking lmao

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>>15838624
on top of this being retarded I already use youtube for things other than vtubing

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>>15838624
My vtuber only account is working fine. Maybe if you whores weren't cheating on your oshi your account wouldn't be flagged.

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>>15838195
She was getting like 5k playing Fear, has she reclined?

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>>15838143
Gura's superchat numbers are basically irrelevant. She brought in 50k from public supers in the past 30 days.
Her 20-30k memberships fees brought in between 100-150k.
She got 13m views on VODs, average ad revenue payout is ~$4 per 1k views (verified here) >>15810688
so thats another 50k just from ad revenue

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>>15838195
So far it is her second lowest gaming reading streaming of all times.

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>>15837395
You caught the virus anon, go into quarantine please.

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>>15838624
>the algorithm should also allo
Anon, stop assuming it's a fucking bug. Here is a much more plausible explanation if that idea is to be taken seriously

>whatever channel gets detected as having a high proportion of accounts considered as "spam viewer" gets marked as "spam viewer channel"
>whatever audience predominantly watches "spam viewer channels" get marked as "spam viewer"
>there is no indication, no tell, it's like a shadowban with no recourse to lift and no accountability

Why would it be different from the rest of the "shadowbans" and similar tactics by the sites?

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>>15838459
It looks like the later they were in the New Year's relay the worse they're affected.

This is somewhat biased because Kronii and Fauna haven't streamed since. But Kiara, slightly affected probably due to crossover audiences. Sana, hard to tell if just normal Sana debuff. Kronii, skip. Mumei, somewhat affected. Fauna, skip. Ina, looks okay but not reaching her old peaks. Bae, badly affected. IRyS, shitstomped. Mori, badly affected. Ame, badly affected. Gura, badly affected.

And it's doubly biased because the chuubas with bigger crossover audiences/timezones with JP will have more viewers flagged from activity on the JP side (Irys is the best example). So hard to tell.

But then... look at the pic related for who was at the end of Mio's Christmas relay.

I really think relays were what flagged a lot of viewers. The algo to tag viewers as illegitimate was active before Christmas, but flagged way more viewers due to some sort of behavior in the relays. Will look for evidence in the various Niji relays next.

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>>15838624
>Trying to find a way around the filter
Literal holobots

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>>15838905
Are we still including VOD views that happened while they were streaming for which no ads appear except for the waiting room? Or are we smart enough to subtract those now?

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if spamming TITTY with ame's bubble lettter emotes makes me a bot then i will happily abandon my humanity

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>>15837298
CCV is nothing compared to vods imo
All those moments, like tears, in rain

[Anonymous No.]

Are these numbers normal for Saruei

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>>15837700
kek, Niji KR collapsed just as Vtubers started to get some traction there.

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>>15837894
unironically, premieres and streams kill a lot of views, so they might get more ad revenue from just dumping vods on YT.

Everything on Twitch needs to be unarchived though.

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>>15839227
>koreans bot and pad the fuck out of kpop
>makes susan create measure to slow that shit down
>koreans show increased interest in vtubers
>vtuber numbers now massacred

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>>15839162
Gura's got the biggest natural VOD increase in hololive I'd say, so even with that it's pretty good. But also ads do play in youtube streams, I swear I've seen them multiple times while watching streams at work. Alas I am a filthy spam viewer and use adblock when I watch most streams.

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>>15839224
shes inclining more and more each month since debuting as a vtuber she is like 4-4.5k average already

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>>15839376
>Ame, Kiara and Kronii are fucking killing vtubing
LET'S GOOO

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>>15838624
Anon, i have prime, watch Ludwig, Pewdipie and a hell of a lot of non-vtuber related videos in my 11 hours a day of leaving stuff in the bg while working.
Still count 0 in streams.

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>>15839376
damn it why is it always the gooks

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Ina has surpassed her peak from the last MK (culled) stream. However, she's also playing with Gura/Ame/Kiara (but only Kiara is on voice) with a single POV.

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>>15839376
It that was true then vtuber views on Youtube should have increased...Ah.

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>>15839082
Mumei was already being affected since she returned from her break. She was struggling to reach 6k for her return stream and for BotW when that was previously her floor. Relay may have made it worse since she failed to break 5k yesterday.

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>>15837823
Hell Towa's zatsudan yesterday never went past 1.7k live peak but ended up with 11k likes and around 110k vod views.

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>Ina at 8.5k
>6.4k likes
GO INA GO, DEFEAT SUSAN'S PAJEETS

[Anonymous No.]

Did some more testing, this time I did an unlisted stream off one account and watched them on premium and non premium accounts.
For premium it took 1min for view to show up in realtime under "video analytics" and for the non premium it just took 17sec to show up as viewer, 48sec to count on realtime.

Non premium does show up as a live viewer under "Live viewers" 1st premium account never did show up. 2nd Premium account gets counted as a viewer, It was acting the same as the non premium account. 2nd premium account doesn't have a youtube channel, so not sure if that affects it.

1st premium account was made in Dec 6 2009. I don't remember when I made 2nd one, but its been at least 2 years+
1st premium account got counted as a viewer on phone for a few sec and then got removed.
I've never said anything in chat before on the 1st premium account, only time I showed up in chat was when I sent a $100 super chat back in Dec 18, but it was blank.


So it could be that just some accounts aren't being counted, premium or not. And the 1st premium account I have is one of the ones not being counted. While the 2nd one is working normally. The views were still counted after stream ended, even if they didn't show up in "live viewers" for all accounts.

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>>15839594
Ina has always been one of, if not the EN with the best ccv per vod view ratio, we never could tell why. But maybe thats helping her again somehow

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>>15839686
mind you, she's on VC with Kiara, and Ame and Gura are also racing with her

[Anonymous No.]

saruei is a 5k streamer, she's drawing chloe

how she compare to her

[Anonymous No.]

>Ina at 8.6k and still growing
>6.4k likes
GO INA GO, DEFEAT SUSAN'S PAJEETS

[Anonymous No.]

These are not very good numbers.

Elira's average is 2.2k
Selen's average is 3k

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>>15839376
I'm still blaming Susan's shit programmers for this.

If the problems is some accounts are view spamming, just ad a fucking counter.
5 max view counted per video every 12 hours. Done.
5, since people like to repeat songs, but add warning levels if they keep doing it. If they repeat this behavior, their views end up counting just 1 once.
But in what universe would it be ok to limit an accounts viewership across all media on the platform as its doing now?

If they make new accounts, fucking let them, they're playing ads right?
Then the limit will go into effect for them too, max 5 views per video in a period, and as low as 1 if spammy.
Why would you bring it down to 0?

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>>15839797
Reimu is high on the job.

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>>15839708
so basically the cull is just fullout retarded?

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>>15838873
You're talking to spic schizo. If it's any variation of
>Guys its time we admit CCV was worthless all along
>Niji isn't getting hit it's a natural recline
Or
>Holomyth were mogging JP all along because they were already hit
It's spic schizo

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>>15838195
That graph is definitely abnormal. For reference, I picked one of her less popular stream in Dec, and this is what her graph used to look like. A sharp drop from waiting room to stream, and sharp gain afterwards as viewers are processed. She got back her waiting room numbers in 5' - which was well within the 5-10' mark YT used to process viewers before Christmas.
If this stream of Selen wasn't affected and her number was just low because it was a debuff game, the numbers would be low but the graph shouldn't look that different.

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The fact that non-logged in viewers aren't affected is the weirdest part of this "cull"

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>>15839744
They're going to catch the virus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15839389
Weird. I've literally never had an ad after joining mid stream. Also yeah not discounting that a lot of money is made through ads on VODs, but a significant chunk of views are from the live stream, and I thought no ads got played my bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15839708
uh why do the vids get more than 1 view? Did you always test 2 accounts for each stream, or does the streamer counts himself as the 1st view?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15839826
There is already a cap of maximum 5 views / day per video per account in place

[Anonymous No.]

>>15837105
They will fix it but it will take a long time and the damage will be done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15837955
anon, you do realize that it doesn't prevent him from spamming in chat, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15839947
The ones with 2 views was premium account vs logged out or vs 2nd premium account. and the one with 3 views was just me refreshing the vod 2 times after stream ended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15839708
Did you the 1st premium account to create the stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15837105
They are never fixing this because they don't think there's anything wrong, it's working as intended as far as they are aware. If anything it's only going to get worse, people thought the last cull was as bad as it was gonna get

[Anonymous No.]

>>15839968
exactly!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840144
I used the non premium account which is from May 22 2006, that one gets views counted normally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840154
Nah. Even Youtube can't ghost 90% of a chuubas audience and get away with it. When it starts getting out there that the reason behind it is that Premium users and other people with long time accounts have been flagged as bots they're going to get pissed. We still don't know if it's allocating Premium revenue correctly because of this which is actually a huge issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15839708
Can I ask about your viewer behavior on the 1st premium account that generally doesn't show up as a viewer? Have you ever participated in relays or been referred from one stream to another? How do you usually find streams to watch, sub menu, channel pages, twitter, discord notifs, etc? Is there anything else notable about your viewer behavior you want to mention?

[Anonymous No.]

is it time for Yagoo to strongarm youtube by using those big company collab connections
>Nissin, Bushiroad, etc...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15837184
Sadly the vtuber and kpop fandoms are very similar

[Anonymous No.]

>>15839744
yeah, the chumbuds are piling in

[Anonymous No.]

9k

go ninner go

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840465
>YOUTUBE I COMMAND YOU TO KNEEL OR I'M GETTING THE CUP NOODLES GUYS ON YOUR ASS
>[laughter can be heard from India]

[Anonymous No.]

>>15836135
Literally just the same proportionally with other streams as before culling. The only issue here is comparing with streams from previous days.

[Anonymous No.]

Viewers culling seems to have started after Christmas. You know what hololive did on Christmas? song relay where everyone spam clapping emotes jumping from channel to channel. So yt shitty algorithm thought those account are spam accounts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15839376
Does it really matter if people inflate kpop views? How many kpop things are released in a given month? Just demonetize anything suspicious and you can have stuff with a gazillion views and it will be utterly meaningless. No reason to completely break livestreaming on your platform.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking hate that Ina is getting culled only by 30 or 40%. This literally doesn't help the situation in any way, and just gives ammo to people who deny the cull.
Fuck you Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

Not a numberfag but someone on /jp/ made a interesting point.
The massive drop in Hololive happened after the Christmas relays where people were going from channel to channel spamming the same clapping emotes in each one.
It would explain why Hololive and HoloEN were affected harder than HoloID.
I know nothing about how this works but it sounded like a plausible theory. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15839224
Vshojo is inclining pretty hard and that trickles down to their friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840595
>Christmas song relay is organized by Mio
Somehow Mio is cursed

[Anonymous No.]

I think I solved it fellas. Viewers culling seems to have started right after Christmas. You know what hololive did on Christmas? song relay where everyone spammed clapping/other emotes jumping from channel to channel. So yt shitty algorithm might flagged those accounts to spam accounts. Mind you that the numbers were fine during the relay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840697
If so it's an absolutely boneheaded move on youtube's part given they plan to implement raids soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840689
Ina with 3 other Holos on her channel and literally no one else streaming should have more than 9k. This would probably be a 15k stream before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840697
How the hell did Nijii and 2views catch the backblast from it? Are you telling me Hololive audience is literally the backbone of the entire vchuba scene?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840697
>>15840595
yea some anon posted a huge text about it with a lot more analysis on that >>15832822

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840697
There weren't any Christmas relays, and the cull started before the New Years relays

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840595
>>15840697
>>15840733

Is this a meme or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840697
I didn't watch the relay and my account got ghosted. It also doesn't mesh with the fact it's getting worse over time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840783
Thanks. This whole thing is fascinating when get past the tribalists dunking on each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840755
Ina with 3 other holos but:
-no advertisement from those holos she's there
-only Kiara on voice
-massively outside of Gura and Ame's time zone
It's not as big a buff or proof as "holy shit Luna is only getting 13k".

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840708
Saruei may be friends with some of the VShojos but they haven't really collabed all that much together.
Though maybe VShojo's incline could have boosted interest in Twitch vtubers in general though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840689
The fact that a pseudo-myth collab is barely reaching the same numbers as her first MK practice stream still shows something amiss, but she's relatively unaffected for now. HoloEN in general isn't getting hit as hard. But if the idea of the cull acting like a virus is correct, it's only a matter of time since it's already gotten one of their members

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840429
1st Premium account.
I did watch the new year hololive rely using this account, I normally just watch the streams on Holodex while signed in on that account. I normally just go to the channel or from twitter or holodex. This is the only account which ive watched vtuber related things on.

For the Non premium account (made in 2006) I just got premium and joined a 0 view stream and it counted my view. On that account I don't watch any vtuber stuff.

2nd premium account is just one I use on the tv in the living room. Also doesn't have any vtuber views

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840764
Yes? Why wouldn't the most popular and viewed vtubers have the most crossover in the industry?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840697
By the way that someone is me but you got the point >>15840733

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840853
I now get a lot of Saruei clips even though I don't watch her or interact with her content in any way on youtube, the same way I used to get say, Snuffy clips when she was blowing up. 90% of them are just Saruei bending over and showing her ass in VR chat but w/e.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840697
>>15840764
>How the hell did Nijii and 2views catch the backblast from it?
Worse. How the fuck fucking VERSEn got caught in it? They had fucking 150 peak CCV for fuck sake, it's not even enough people to spam anything.

Anyone starting from the assumption this is an accident, bug instead of some parameter in the "who gets considered a 'spam viewer'" category having been deliberately increased to cull more of what they consider spam at the expense of a higher false positive rate is a complete retard.

What happened was more or less the same thing that happened with "precision strikes" in the past 25 years where levelling a whole building to kill one confirmed terrorist is a valid warfare tactic and whoever else gets killed is "collateral damage", a "bug" of sorts.
>that will never be fixed because it's not a priority

[Anonymous No.]

Gura left... still over 9k.

RRATS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841085
They have some overlap with Holo viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

How long will manjisanjien avoid cull?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840993
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if there's a substantial overlap with their audience.
Honestly, I'd be surprised that they haven't tried to collab with each other recently if it weren't for the fact that Saruei is apparently really shy in collabs with other people.

[Anonymous No.]

Ludwig starting in 75 minutes it'll be interesting to see how his numbers look tonight

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841133
It's dropping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840872
You'll be hard pressed to find an overlap that exists between HololiveJP fanbase and Kanae fanbase (which got under 3k yesterday) that is higher than the overlap between Kanae and the NijiEN boys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841133
Way to jinx it anon

[Anonymous No.]

>Susan is actually granting Gawr Gura wish for smaller audience
Thank you Susan!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841133
It's lower CCV than you'd expect but it's not showing the same pattern as the JP cull. The JP cull hard caps chuubas at 25% of their nornal numbers. Inas graph hasn't levelled off so even if growth is slow she's not getting capped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841211
She doesn't have a smaller audience, it still has the same amount of faggots spamming chat.

[Anonymous No.]

Did Ina broke the system?
Gooruh left but the drop wasn't big.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841211
No she isn't, they're all still there spamming shit in her chat. Youtube just no longer tells us how many and by all indications, Gura wasn't checking that shit live anyway (like in that RE stream where some yt crash killed 90% of the views and she was asking chat if everything still works and everyone is back)

[Anonymous No.]

CCV this, CCV that. I just wanna know which numbers are doing better than which other numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841146
Does Kuzuha have any ovelap with Hololive viewers to justify failing to reach 10k twice in a day?

It's not just that he was denied even 9k, it is that his chart went fucking haywire when it got to the closest point to 9k
>8997

Then it recovered and when it was growing back again to what seemed to be a dash to 9k
>it fucking crashed again with no survivors

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840868
Maybe not all that relevant but to add on to this. I have a premium account that I only use to watch vtubers, however I basically only watch one, and only occasionally watch others.I also dont watch on Holodex. For the relay besides the one chuuba I watch, I maybe watched 2 or 3 others in the relay for a few minutes each and they weren't the ones directly before or after in the relay. My account is still working fine.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone on the r/lsf thread posted this image. It shows Pewdiepie also having weird numbers on video likes and poll votes related to CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841303
No other Holo streams on, so why would the viewers leave?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841362
People are retarded. A 16 minutes poll, no matter how amusing, can easily be discarded as
>churn
That's why it's important that it is a "just posted" poll, "1 min ago" poll, 2 mins max

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841211
Gura already hides the ccv, this bullshit does nothing for her kek typical YouTube only making shit worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841362
Pewds...tasukete

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841362
>16 minutes
Way too long to be useful. That's just viewer churn

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841401
T.retard
Cunny TToTT was there

[Anonymous No.]

>>15839894
If the cull is about accounts getting flagged as bots as everyone suspects, it makes perfect sense.

[Anonymous No.]

https://blog-imgs-133.fc2.com/y/a/r/yarakan/20220104155455213.jpg
Nips are saying Jun's views are also down but I don't know if I can trust this as much

[Anonymous No.]

That might explain why Miko is one of the holo who got hit the hardest by the culling because Miko was the last one on the relay

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841085
Except this is more like spreading a virus to get rid of that terrorist and instead of killing just him or just everyone in the building you infect the whole world because everyone is interconnected. Would have been easier to just lop off 50% from every vtuber stream and then just say "weird but not my problem" when people complained.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841348
PSSSST, HEY KING
>CRASHES YOUR CHART
NOTHING PERSONEL!

[Anonymous No.]

Does this mean Ina's audience is relatively separate from the general holo audience?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841467
Why would Youtube recognise accounts as bots and not non-accounts

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841529
Was that a superchat reading or something because jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840755
>>15840863
Your reading comprehension, anons. I'm not denying the cull, I'm just saying it's not as big as we need right now in order to shut down trolls and normies who are still in denial.
Actually ridiculously low number would benefit as much more than this mediocre cull.

[Anonymous No.]

So what was the daily ranking for yesterday? Kanata gold?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841348
Hololive isn't like, Patient 0 or something, it's just a company that is heavily representative of the behavior youtube is culling. Nijisanji also does it, to a lesser extent, without ever needing to cross over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841566
Yeah. It's always seemed that way. In fact most of EN is casuals and tourists who only really watch 1 or 2 of HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841574
pajeet coding

[Anonymous No.]

For this cull virus theory, MK tournament will eventually destroy all members across?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841518
The pinnacle of
>I don't know, therefore it is this incredibly detailed explanation

Fucking schizos, keep it simple
1) Something is happening that is observable, nobody knows what caused it, it affects Nijis, Holos, VERSEn, VSPO (hard)
2) Nobody knows what caused it

Adding esoteric explanations grounded in assumptions and fortune telling is something better left to the gypsies

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841606
>Mediocre cull
Bruh. Flare was culled down to 400 viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841732
Not everyone is streaming their POV tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841566
Ina consistently streams in a slot that's otherwise extremely dead, so anyone who can only watch at this time (say, European wagies) is almost an Ina-only live viewer by default

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841773
The Lack siblings getting next to each other in viewership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841783
well most will be

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841606
Honestly I think JP has already been culled enough that something will have to be addressed. If youtube doesn't do something Cover will have to seriously consider doing some amount of streaming on Twitch. The viewership is already way too low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841566
She streams at a time when there's usually no overlap. That's not to say her audience doesn't watch other Holos, just that they don't necessarily have the option to watch them concurrently or consecutively with Ina most of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

Mizkif is squatting the VTuber tag on twitch today for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841903
Are you allowed to tag your stream with whatever you want, even if it's not accurate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841469

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841965
Pretty much. People do joke tags all the time.
Usually they're obvious to point out from people using them seriously though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841965
Yeah. Twitch streamers put whatever the fuck they want as a tag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841205
Was Kanae part of some sort of collab around Christmas time that worked similar to Holo relay ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842049
I think Veibae put Visual ASMR as one of her tags lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841469
>Nips are saying Jun's views are also down but I don't know if I can trust this as much
They're 100% yanking your chain, Jun got his highest viewership since that Pokemon challenge of his a long time ago (two months?)

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841362
Pewdiepie fans are claiming that his views were slashed in half around Christmas. His vods are member only, though, so can even look at them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841859
the thing is that their vod views, which gets them the revenue, is unaffected. But this could hurt with the most retarded sponsors who think ccv actually means something

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842050
Just a Nijisanji Mario Kart tournament, surely not the sort of thing that encourages people to hop around streams. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQrYanCpQRA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8au3HKLMM0

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841965
You are but you can get warned by twitch staff for misusing it
But i don't think staff cares that much about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841469
>>15842149
btw, here is what a 120k CCV 2 hours stream look like 11 hours later
>703k VOD views
>18k likes

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842150
Every sponsor looks at CCV anon. Do you think Directors are rehired based on box office revenue or DVD sales?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841644
Depends on who you ask. Bottom line is it doesn't really matter since the displayed numbers were all bullshit anyway. Realistically speaking it was probably Luna, but possibly Kanata or that niji thing, we'll never know for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15837910
Then can any holoEn girl take the first step?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842152
I wonder if his fans will make a ruckus, they’re more prone to going apeshit than any other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841469
>>15841362
That's it, the virus is preading. It's starting to affect everybody. In a month, every Youtube streamer will stream to 0 ccv. Youtube will probably just hide the counter at that point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841836
Only one of Lack's kids got over 1000 for their last stream and it's not the one you'd expect

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842289
Jun is not affected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842330
He is, just not as much as the Holos

[Anonymous No.]

Hakotaro using her sex voice...

[Anonymous No.]

I'm thinking EN gets affected a bit less because JP fans always just post something like 待機 in every single waiting room like a bot and that's it, meanwhile EN fans start chatting with each other about Mario Kart while waiting for a GTA stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842150
Some sponsors are looking to advertise using live streams and it's completely valid. Live stream engagement and VOD engagement are different things. The current state of things will 100% have a negative effect on the opportunity and the value of some sponsorships. There's no way things can be left as they are on Covers end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842379
Show don't tell. Point to a stream of his and say what should be the CCV for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842266
there are many sponsors who deal directly with sponsoring youtube video uploads (not streams), they know how vod and unique viewers work.
But a minority, who is incompetent/mostly deals with twitch, might not

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841362
It needs to less than 5 minutes
16 minutes is enough time for +20k people enter and leave the stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842412
Yeah, and JP clearly started doing that in December 2021.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842481
How new?

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, I think the cull can be traced closely to relay streams pretty convincingly. Here's a few pieces of evidence.

1) Mio's Christmas relay
We all seemed to think that the event could be traced to something around the 24th of December. Well, Mio's Christmas relay happened then. It features the exact kind of conditions that causes bot classification (emote spam, constant moving to seemingly unrelated other videos/streams, etc.). We all know that HoloJP got hit hard, but not everybody seems to be hit. Here were the members that didn't participate in the relay:
Sora, AZKi, Choco, Okayu, Korone, Marine, Lamy, La+ and Iroha.
We also have the following pieces of evidence: Marine was able to host a 30k+ stream on Jan 1st since she hasn't streamed much. Okayu has been less impacted by the cull than most other holos. Korone's part of the Mikorone collab had much higher CCV than Miko's part (who did participate in the relay). But the most interesting person in this is Iroha.

2) Iroha didn't participate in the Christmas relay and her following streams took a little hit from her Median but weren't bad at all. As you can see she was still hitting 10k+ in a bunch of things, notably a Minecraft stream. But then Iroha made a mistake by participating in the Holox New Costume Relay. Her presence in the costume relay looked fine, but afterwards her CCVs tanked significantly, with Minecraft getting culled to 7k and then 3k after the relay.

3) Gura
Gura didn't participate in the JP relay but she participated in the EN one. And her CCVs dropped precipitously after the New Year relay.

This all seems to point at relay streams as being the main direct cause for Youtube to start mass labelling people as bots. And then these "bots" spread out to other parts of the vtuber and gaming worlds, poisoning everyone else slowly.

Mio had done it twice, first Holocaust and second for Christmas relay idea

[Anonymous No.]

1.4k waiting for bae
5min in she recovered her waiting room faster than last night
mmmm

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842481
Obviously not but that's when YT started counting those people as bots

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842532
the amount of coping from numberfags is absolutely hilarious. Your numbers are all meaningless and nobody cares. Why don't you enjoy some streams instead of obsessing over numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842266
>Do you think Directors are rehired based on box office revenue or DVD sales?
Anon, if a movie bombs at the box office, that director is going to carry that weight for a while. Box office success is measured by revenue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842532
Luna didn participate on the relay she had to be replaced by mio AND still got affected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842532
stop reposting this bullshit
marine didn't take part in the relay and she si geting culed as well
it has nothing to do with some silly christmas relay and whoever think it does is retarded
youtube has always proposed new algo and code at the end of the year. this has nothing to do with what hololive did or did not do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842610
>thatsthepoint.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842568
Then it's not what they did but what Youtube changed, isn't it?

if GMail sends three quarters of your email to an invisible inaccessible spam folder because spammers close their emails with "Best Regards" and so do most of your customers you wno't say
>well, it's reasonable, my customers shouldn't close their emails with "Best Regards" if they didn't want their emails to be sent to this invisible inaccessible spam folder never to be seen
you would say
>WHO THE FUCK IS THE PAJEET CODING THIS RETARDED SYSTEM AND WHO THE FUCK IS HIS INCOMPETENT EMPLOYER?
special when you are a paying customer

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842609
maybe it was the pokemon tournament participation

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842453
Holos are streamers though so it makes sense to judge them on a basis that measures all streamers. This is especially true if the sponsor is considering streamers between platforms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842670
I mean to original question was whether viewer accounts were marked as bots as a result of the Christmas relay, which I think is a valid concern. No idea why these retards are starting to look at whether the chuuba accounts themselves are flagged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842532
Stop being a retard, your idea is uncorroborated bullshit full of assumptions and leaps of faith.

Kuzuha had his first stream under 10k since EVER (pretty much since his indie days) on Christmas day.

That's a bloke that, like Pekora on "nijnjin nijnjin", OPENED his stream (before even starting the game) on 10k regardless of content.
It has zero relation to your bullshit theory and repeating it makes you and everybody that read it dumber

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842266
This is more like "are directors judged based on opening weekend or the movie's entire theatrical run?" Both are highly watched, but opening weekend is mostly a prestige thing, it doesn't actually effect how much money the movie makes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842849
Nah, Aqua wouldn't get as many sponsorships if streaming was what they were looking for, she barely did it for most of 2021

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842670
Accounts are getting flagged and removed from CCV for "spamlike" behavior. Hololive has definitely triggered this new AI more than any other streamer on Youtube and it's entirely likely that the relays played some part in that.

[Anonymous No.]

2k+ for Bae
More than her last stream and her usual numbers for her zatsudans.
Are the numbers going back to normal?

[Anonymous No.]

>my JP oshi is Miko
>my EN oshi is IRyS
>They are two of the hardest hit by the culling
I'm sorry, its my fault!!

[Anonymous No.]

New Youtube Algorithm

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842849
>youtube
>not counting and paying for vod watchers
that goes back to the incompetency point.
In fact, if you tried to hire anybody and offer to pay them "just for the live watchers" while refusing to also pay for the rest of vod watchers (you want to have them for free), they would tell you to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842261
guess it means it had super low churn.

With being an event, might be the case
But also means that his reach is close to max because very few other people care to watch the vod.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842943
then it would cull only those who took part in the relay but it culled everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842926
It's more like "are advertisers interested in how many people watch the Super Bowl live (CCV) or how many record it and rewatch it later (VOD)". The first is clearly and obviously the answer but we have a few people in here with an axe to grind who simply cannot fathom why marketers value immediate results and live views more than a trickle of VOD views over 6 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842670
>>15840810
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=Alright%2C+I+think+the+cull
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=Alright%2C+I+think+the+cull
it's just some dead hours shitposting schizo(s). likely /hlg/

[Anonymous No.]

I remember the good olf days pf Pekora getting 50k average on Minecraft...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842991
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842965
She's usually overlapped by a lot of people when she's getting these numbers..

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842943
This worries me if this is a temporary per stream based flagging or a permanent one that will effect your account for future stream viewing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843045
>then it would cull only those who took part in the relay
Your logic reps. It's viewer accounts that are getting flagged, not channels. Just because Marine didn't participate in the relay doesn't mean her viewers didn't watch it and get flagged by doing so. Capiche?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842965
The only coffee and chill under 4k was this one and one in december.
All her others have gotten 4k-8k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843080
That's because you can skip ads when you don't watch something live with tv stuff. Doesn't matter with Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>When the numbers are low

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843131
Wait, so even now waiting room numbers can be culled?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842330
Bullshit, even if he got a decent ccv, that doesn't prove that he's not affected. See Ina just now.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine this being your life. Constantly going back and forth, making shitty reposts from a garbage board to bait replies. Does he find this fun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843193
120k isn't just "decent" CCV, it's the best number he's had for months. If someone is hitting near record highs it's safe to say they're largely unaffected. It doesn't fit the pattern of data we're seeing. The cull isn't just "low numbers". It's a combination of

1. Massive drop in waiting room numbers, 90% people removed

2. Very slow trickle in over 30 minutes

3. CCV cap reached and will not increase for the rest of the stream

Please refer to this image to understand what the cull affecting someone actually looks like. Sharp drop from waiting room numbers, then a near horizontal line after cap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840697
>>15840783
Mio did it again huh

[Anonymous No.]

I doubt this is just the algorithm suddenly deciding a lot of viewers are bots, they likely pushed an update before their Christmas break and now it's flagging half of the viewers as bots

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843322
Jun's not part of any clique right, he's just kind of his own thing. Might be a lot of people who watch him and only him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15836599
everyone has been saying this but i dont think more that 1% of ccv do this at all

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone noticed that the latest VOD of Mori lose viewers around 5k+?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843322
At this point I'm more interested in what the CCV hard cap is based on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841205
I checked and the peak was over 5k for a stream that started past midnight

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843482
>CCV hard cap
That's just an unproven assumption at this point. Many streams are seeing constant growth until the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843131
This is just a superchat reading anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>15836752

UUUUUUUUUU

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843566
>he thinks that kind of thing can ever be proven

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840697
>It would explain why Hololive and HoloEN were affected harder than HoloID.
Anon, it affected HoloID too. The relays has nothing to do with it

[Anonymous No.]

Ano... Final tally of the day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843322
>If someone is hitting near record highs it's safe to say they're largely unaffected
That's not safe to say at all, just because someone gets good numbers doesn't mean it isn't being slashed from even bigger numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843666
It's affecting viewers, not channels. It's affecting ID precisely because ID viewers of Hololive watched the relays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843699
It would need to fit the pattern of what we're seeing with other streams. Unless Jun has a 150k waiting room I'm pretty confident that he's been unaffected, or so little affected that it's negligible. Feel free to bring up his graph and I'll take a look at it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843635
I'm just saying, streams flatline sometimes, it happened before the cull too. Right now taking a decently sized sample of random streams at holo stats still gives pretty common curve shapes, nothing out of the ordinary. Unless it starts to become an universal phenomenon affecting an abnormally high amount of streams there's no reason to add another assumption to an already confusing phenomenon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843831
Every stream noticeably affected by the cull hits a cap well before the actual number of people watching has been reached. It can still slowly go up but not by much. Luna had over 30k watching her live so the fact her CCV basically flatlined at 10k is showing that there's a cap in place that can't be exceeded.

See also Towa not being able to exceed 21k and Mikkorone Stream 2 being at 25k for well over an hour

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843239
So it goes. I've seen someone copypaste posts on /hlg/, my oshis general, a couple of other chuuba generals where relevant, and start a new thread with it. All within five to ten minutes. Often enough followed by some more inflammatory posts and "why Xsharts are like this?" or "worst fanbase, I hate them", especially if there's no (you)s, which is something you might observe going on now in regards to /#/. Sometimes I wonder whether there's a /qa/ Discord playbook or if several of this board's resident schizos are just one person dedicating 16 hours of their day to baiting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843948
Anon, most streams eventually reach a "cap" at some point and either stay there or lose viewers slowly, it just so happens that after the cull that cap is much lower. There's no need to assume they're artificially blocking the CCV from growing further when the cull itself is enough to explain it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843796
The streams that falling short of the waiting room numbers are the most extreme example of the cull and becoming worryingly more common, but there's still streams that are obviously culled without following that pattern

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844111
>There's no need to assume they're artificially blocking the CCV from growing further
There is when you know more people are still tuning in. If it's just the cull then the trend line should still show the same curve, just lower. Proportionally as more people join then the same proportion that made it through early in the stream should still make it through late in the stream.

For what it's worth here is a normal, unculled stream and the pattern of behavior you expect before the cull without capping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844111
So you think 1200 people showed up for the start of Lamy's stream, then the instant it started, they closed it and never came back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844237
That's just cherrypicking, here's a stream from a month ago, very often, a stream hit a stride where about as much people come and leave.

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>>15844237
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/9wpbe1vMRs8
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/j0PwSxB-EqI
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/LHq613IMMjg
Took me literally a minute looking through random past streams to come across three examples of curves with that shape. One of them even gets more viewers and then flatlines again. It's nothing new or unusual.
>>15844317
Where in my post am I saying that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843722
>ID viewers of Hololive watched the relays.
No. I didn't watch the relays, But still do not count as a viewer. The other day, I watched an Indonesian utaite, there were 10 people in chat including me but only 2 counts. There were times where it would glitch/spike drastically to 60-80 people then one second later down to 20-30 people.

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>>15844111
>>15844337
I don't disagree with you for the most part, but I do find it a bit odd that the 2nd Mikkorone stream didn't peak at the 3D live finale part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844337
If you limit the graph to the first hour like the Minecraft stream then the curve is pretty much the same. The point is though that you think the cull means only a portion of the actual viewers are being shown, correct? So maybe 30% of the real viewers get reported, right? My point is that over time there's no reason to believe that unaffected viewers stop trickling in. The curve for a short stream should be the same, just with 70% lower numbers across the board.

If a stream is struggling to get above a certain number within 20 mins and stalls there for the entirety of the stream, that's capping. Because of every 100 viewers that join 30 should still be displayed if it's just a matter of the cull ghosting some people, right? But that doesn't happen, it flatlines.

[Anonymous No.]

this bae zatsu looks normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844445
>Choosing a watchalong as your example
Anon...Do I really need to explain why you wouldn't get as many people joining in the middle of a watchalong, or leaving it?

[Anonymous No.]

jwu Toya still hold today's gold right /#/ bros?

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/MillieParfait/status/1478516314402656257?s=20
Yeah Millie it's totally because of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844581
You need more examples? They're really not hard to find. Some curves are just flat shaped.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/dCAn8Pga6PQ
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/5kaQs6GAeII
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/pvbvoMFFxe4
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/h6OOFmGg8Yg
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/VDmugf8epnI
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/raZ24O2yvu8

[Anonymous No.]

Are JP Holos being hurt more than EN holos (or nijis)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844710
None of them look anything close to the flatness of >>15843322 I think you're stretching hard if you think reaching a peak an hour into the stream and holding steady is anything like the viewcount staying within 300 viewers from start to finish

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844697
So seems like some Nijis have noticed it

[Anonymous No.]

Some interesting numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844622
It's only 9am in Japan yet but he is a strong contender

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844746
It's just the same hurt that was already applied to EN for a year but schizos here refuse to admit that because they need to push the narrative of EN declining

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844878
kys spic

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844746
It does seem that way, but then the prevailing theory was HoloEN were affected more by the CCV filtering to begin with.

>>15844710
Those streams grow for a while then plateau, whereas that Lamy example never really grows, it *starts* flat after 85% of the waiting room crowd vanish

[Anonymous No.]

>migo, furea, and patra collabo
Susan pls don't hit patra channel!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15841965
Its technically against the rules but the staff don't actually enforce it so...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844938
The 2020 cull has nothing to do what's going on at the moment. EN only got hit harder by 2020 because it was recline on top of a cull. Right now up to 90% of CCV is simply not being reported. It's completely different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15836639
Ina's chat is 85%+ members so they are going to count

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844938
>>15844938
>it *starts* flat
It only looks flatter because the axis is stretched vertically to make room for that rogue waiting room point, compressing the whole curve in the process. It still has more than twice as many viewers by the end as it had at the start and it was growing steadily until the 20 minute mark, all of which are pretty normal behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845023
doushite, anon-kun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845125
Got it backwards anon. Members and Youtube Premium users are getting culled, people who aren't logged in aren't. That's why people think it's spamming member emotes that is triggering Youtubes AI to flag people as bots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845023
Speaking of, how did Patra's ASMR do? Was she infected as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845125
Membering doesn't mean shit, if anything it might even make it worse. Watame is known for having a sea of green and she got fucked as hard as anyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845202
yamero susan sama!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845023
>Miko and Flare are two of the most infected chuubas out there
Yeah, Patra is done. No way she doesn't catch it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845212
I think the premium thing is a red herring. Premium users obviously have a credit card attached to their account and are willing to spend money, so they're probably more likely to be membered to channels, at which point it could just be a coincidental correlation with spamming member emotes

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845237
She took a break this week

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys mind making a list of 900k holos sorted by the probable time of getting 1M?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845241
If the emote spam thing is true than yeah membership actually makes it worse. Sheep in particular would be hit hard due to all the emote spam during karaoke

[Anonymous No.]

>>15840764
>Hololive audience is literally the backbone of the entire vchuba scene?
Yes. Do you know how idol agencies can succeed with just one star idol creating a halo for the rest of its stable. In the chuuba industry that star is hololive. Unless they were already diehard nijis before 2020, western audience became chuuba fans through hololive and even if they dont watch them regularly anymore they do come back once in a while to watch their favorites especially in big events. Foreign popularity of hololive made nips curious, and they tune into the big events as well. And how did the shadowban infection spread? Hololives big events

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844878
so the cull has been silently progressing through time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845122
>EN only got hit harder by 2020 because it was recline on top of a cull.
Nice cope last samurai.

[Anonymous No.]

Good news: my internet finally unfucked itself so I can post the SC charts again, I'm sure nobody cares about the old ones by now but just for completion's sake I'll post them

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845359
Shion 41 days
Moona 53 days
Lamy 73 days
Ollie 77 days
Polka 100 days
Mio 105 days
Sora 123 days

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845803
Sunday

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845845
Weekly

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845885
Yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>15836429
>he gives a shit about reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>15844878
>turns out that ccv was never trustworthy to begin with, through all this year
/#/ you retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845933
Then finally, today's superchats
Before you ask yes of course Matsuri's was Apex gacha

[Anonymous No.]

I can’t believe Mio did this...she killed Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845246
Bros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846063
go back and stay there

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846063
dont crosspost yourself again

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846063
vshojo niggers should stay on their nigger general

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845985
First the Holocaust, now this. Truly the miso soup of Hololive, except the miso has gone bad. Both times Hololive has been fucked it goes back to her. Graduate her already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846063
>those responses
man they know nothing about youtube over there

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846063
Wait so the vshojo fag isn't just shitposting and actually likes that garbage? Gross. Also not surprising that a bunch of 70IQ coombrains can't numberfag properly

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846284
I thought it was pretty obvious, people dismss the schizos here as "just shitposters" way too easily, most of the schizos here legit believe their bullshit and the vshojo schizo is 100% one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846274
most of those responses are still the same schizo, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846264
fuck off taiga, i hope your balls grow back and she cuts them off again

[Anonymous No.]

Is Alan Wake a kusoge or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846380
It's a good game, but good game doesn't always mean good numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846063
>shittalking hololive on stream
i mean if that clips comes out they will have to realy on otv viewers than vtuber ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846274
I don't think any sensible person would see those numbers and think "yeah that makes sense"
It's just not possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846274
Of course they wouldn't.
The ones that do, that have actually USED youtube in any significant capacity, frankly wouldn't be surprised at the state of things given Youtube's history of being utter dogshit towards creators.
Often, those that use YT in a significant capacity alongside Twitch as a way to funnel viewers off-site to them also are going to be small-mid sized Twitch channels that don't rely on the clique. Why would anyone IN the clique give 2-shits about how Youtube actually fucking works?
The sooner those fuckers accelerate and start streaming pirated movies 24/7 and get smashed by the fetid pile of garbage known as DMCA, the better.

[Anonymous No.]

I know that one of theories about why viewers are getting flagged is because of emote spam, but is there any proof to it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846493
The only way to test that is to have unflagged account spams emote, then test it out again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846493
No, we don't have any real proof on why people are flagged. Can't discount the theory but no proof. There were a few people here who say they have never chatted ever but are still flagged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846063
Stop samefagging, nigger. Go back to your trash general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846574
He's not even from that general, just a tourist trying to start shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846493
Anecdotal of course. But I have an account that I only watch vtubers on and I basically only spam emotes in chat, and my account is still counting as a viewer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846493
Conjecture.
The only things that can be said with any confidence are the following:
-There are accounts that fail to register as a viewer, regardless of premium/member/non-member status
-There are accounts that do NOT have this issue
-Not being logged in, unsurprisingly, means that you count since you have no account to 'flag'
The results; Reduced 'Live Views' display despite showing up as having watched the video once the livestream has finished. Also responsible for the silly shit where you can get over 100% engagement in under a minute on polls and other utter nonsense.
Any conjecture as to WHY accounts are getting flagged is exactly that, conjecture, and any discussion should be centered solely on the fact that accounts are, for an 'unknown reason' getting flagged and not showing up in CCV as a result.

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>>15846493
Nijis barely spam on chat and even if they do on some channels, it's not even remotely close, Kuzuha for example doesn't even do Karaoke streams and failed to get 10k TWICE today, something literally unheard of before

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845282
Somebody needs to warn Patra that Miko and Flare are super infected super spreaders!!!

[Anonymous No.]

6.2k waiting for gura
kinda low waiting room today

[Anonymous No.]

GAWR GURA PLEASE BEAT CHINMAN!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846493
i thought that at first but now apparently i don't count as a view now despite counting the other day and i don't spam chat

[Anonymous No.]

6.8k and 2k likes for gura waiting room.

[Anonymous No.]

6.6k to 2.2k, exactly a third

[Anonymous No.]

Gura's waiting room 6.5k

[Anonymous No.]

Gura isn't even gonna hit 10k is she

[Anonymous No.]

>>15845282
>>15846723
Patra's ASMR numbers were lower last time iirc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846828
anon can you describe your viewing behavior between the other day and today? eg. how many streams, any back to back, etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846910
She's recovering very fast, already over 5k, getting the room almost INSTANTLY

[Anonymous No.]

Gura looking at getting her waiting room in the first 5min
which is common. BAe also recveredhers quickly today too.
Lets see how it goes after

[Anonymous No.]

Room back after 3 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846953
it wasn't yesterday i checked but I've basically only watched gura's DBD and popped into a few other streams throughout the day alongside regular youtube videos from varied sources

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive finally did it. Free shipping for Mexico, Canada and USA.
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1478531698962812928

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847048
Oh thank fucking god. Now to check how long their shipping times are, but the fact that I had to go through a third party to buy was always an annoyance.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura 6.5k watching
She recoverd in 4.5 minutes

There's no culling, stop being a bunch of retards

[Anonymous No.]

why is it assumed hololive is better than vshojo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847122
5 minutes to recover the room

[Anonymous No.]

Ludwig talking youtube analytics for live streaming again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847130
they appealto different users
but ololive has just a wider reach and userbase than VS girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847139
There is nothing strange about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847130
Because Hololive isn't comprised of thots who scam people and cheat on their husbands

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847200
yep, which is retarded from the JP side perspective that it's heavily affected, it implies that in the whole land of japan, the hikki otaku nest, the mother land of anime culture, there's less people interested in watching vtubers, in youtube, their main streaming platform (twitch is not as big there)

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847130
Because they don't need raids to incline. Box pushing strat is the meta, even though it doesn't seem like it anymore because of the cull.

[Anonymous No.]

Aren't Gura's numbers looking too normal?

[Anonymous No.]

im interested to see if gura walls at her dbd number yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847130
They choose Hololive so they need to shit on other companies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847130
because they don't need to suck off ecelebs from reddit cliques to get views

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847385
No
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/bRqF9_qliRw

She's down about 30% just like her DbD stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847385
The numbers dived when the stream started. She managed to recover the numbers tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847385
>sub 10k
>10 minutes in
>normal

[Anonymous No.]

so uh... how many 10k streams we gettin today...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846063
did he really?
i remember him talking about taking adderall in the past
guess it killed his brain cells

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846910
>10k
10k get

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847385
No? She's expected to get to about 20k with GTA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847470
prev GTA stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847440
Should cap out at about 15k at this rate which is consistent with her DBD number.

[Anonymous No.]

10k get
>>15847457
This is just the second 10k of today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847457
Well there is this one

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Is it... Is it fixed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847048
>>15847059
I thought the FREE part was a meme since it's not in the tweet but no, it actually is FREE shipping according to their website. Given the current prices that's like a $40 value every shipment, it's insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847171
He didn't show much

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847607
Seems on par with the second one for now
https://vrabi.ml/video/4kUKOKIMG9o

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847607
So basically 20k is the target. She's still inclining at 15 mins. No cap reached yet.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't feel so good bros..

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847660
Yes, Youtube fixed it

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847699
>>15847698
yes, got 20k after 30 minutes in everyone

[Anonymous No.]

i just want to go back to december bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847672
that is the point, there isnt much for youtube.
and what he hopes to get better next

[Anonymous No.]

sub 20k HAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847660
No, Polka's numbers are definitely still fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847720
If only. We'll see what tonight holds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847736
is still lower tought she had 12.8k by now

[Anonymous No.]

anyone replying to the vshoujo schizo should be banned

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847705
Gura has always had the most tourists and people who watch only her and no other Holos so it's not surprising she's managing to get through better than others. It depends if the contagion will spread to her swarm of normie viewers or not.

EN Holos with less normie appeal like Bae and Irys have gotten shafted incredibly hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847465
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1253056352?t=2h53m0s
yeah, I don't know if he talked more about it since I can't be assed to watch more

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847841
Bae today's zatsu looked kinda normal

[Anonymous No.]

>gura slowly creeps to 12k over 20 minutes
>"i-its fixed guys!"
her last GTA stream hit 19k by this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847672
Key take away was YouTube doesn't really provide any statistics across multiple streams, like weekly or monthly. Streamers have average viewrship, peak viewership, amount of chat messages etc. per stream. But they would have to manually calculate average viewership for the month, or specifically look for peak CCV for the month by going into the stats for each stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847664
Note: not actually free when you add to cart.

[Anonymous No.]

Nyanners at 16.1k

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847793
>Polka
90% OF EVERY JAPANESE VTUBER ARE FUCKED

[Anonymous No.]

Shu and finana are doing just fine

[Anonymous No.]

HOLOKEKS?????

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847744
Back to September-November 2020...
Gura median 40k, first million subscribers...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847950
Good vtubers get fucked over
Hypocrites and whores get success...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847950
pink nyanners>blue nyanners

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848007
>collabs with genmates
>obliterates her CCV
chumbuds...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848027
>>15848048
>replying

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848007
reclining

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847935
shu yeah finanan hard to tell acording to the graph


Gura seems to be stalling now

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848007
Shame the debut buff wore off. She could've maintained 30k+ like Pekora if she put in some effort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847935
the usual 7k-9k cap no cull here

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848148
With the boys that's no longer a cap. They were getting 13k just yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

Susan has decided, the peak is 15k

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847935
Selen reclining? She used to get 4k+...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848223
For apex streams sure. She always gets much less for normal gameplay streams. But I admit this is a bit on the low side. I would expect maybe 2k

[Anonymous No.]

>>15847897
It is fixed though? These are normal numbers from what I can tell. So what she got 20k on the same game a month ago. Milking a game over and over she's bound to have a chunk of her audience lose interest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848223
NijiHomos mogging her

[Anonymous No.]

Gura's numbers fluctuating like crazy. Viewers getting deleted in real time? At least Youtube CCV seams to update faster now lol.

[Anonymous No.]

Shark got 12k in 30 minutes on DBD yesterday
looks to be about 13.5k maybe 14k by 30 minutes this stream expected as its GTA but still a lower roof than you'd expect of the shark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848223
2.5k

[Anonymous No.]

13k after 30mins, she was almost at 22k after 30mins on her last GTA V stream.

[Anonymous No.]

Wtf just happened? The shark instantly lost 400 viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

He's getting his usual numbers, no drop at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848308
The last GTAV stream had 24K. In November Gura got 12K doing anything, including DMC4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848429
i would compare it to this one rather
15k after 30min
https://vrabi.ml/video/4kUKOKIMG9o

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848347
Yeah I think the theories about it affecting you more when you stream more is bullshit. The numbers are wrong, but they're not *more* wrong than before.

[Anonymous No.]

rrat:
The chinks bought youtube secretly

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848462
Do we know what his waiting room looks like? Does he manage to keep all of the waiting room or does is nose dive like the vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

shark leveling out already, its going up and down now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848384
>>15848384
>>15848384
migrate when ready

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848429
Graph is crabbing already. Looks like this is the limit. 10k cull at least. Not the worst hit by far but still very noticeable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848429
W-well, 13k is still good considering King is a sub 10k streamer now.
>The state of numbers

[Anonymous No.]

It might have gotten (kinda) fixed on the EN side? JP is still really fucked though

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848531
he never puts a wait room, twitch culture of just hitting live whenever they feel like

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848486
Why? That one is older and started outside her normal timeslot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848572
In what world is Gura having 13k viewers at 30 minutes for a game she hit 20k on every other time she's played it fixed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848625
the last one started with some good story missions. So it is kinda buffed this one is in a slower part of thegame doing the crane thingy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848554
>>15848559
She should still hit 15K. Gura gains viewers until 6PM after which Euros and EST leaving start balancing out PST joining in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848531
it was somewhere between 6-10k i didn't really take notice just saw it in my recommended

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848674
in the coping mind of /#/ bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848572
Fixed? When a portion of her viewers just vanished into thin air?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848674
Playthroughs always get lower viewers over time. Not to say it might still be fucked, but it's not AS fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848674
/#/ is mindbroken and needs any hopium they can get

[Anonymous No.]

>>15848320
look at all of these clappers in chat, dying in droves...

[Anonymous No.]

The nijis that appear to be affected are Selen and Reimu. None of the others have any noticable affect....so far

[Anonymous No.]

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a 10% drop would be within that expectation. a 35% drop from last stream is well outside that what could be expected