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>>15812306

>> No.15817073

goddamn bunny and her 6th sense.

>> No.15817087

Luna didnt deserve this...

>> No.15817106

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.15817114

>>15816896
Only if you're ready to amend that number to 5k next month. Because the cull is compoundingly getting worse by the day right now

>Kanata 3D ~40k
>Watame 3D ~30k
>Towa 3D ~20k
>Luna 3D ~10k
next 3D <10k

>> No.15817119

https://twitter.com/creativeTANAKA/status/1478332741636997125

https://twitter.com/search?q=%40TeamYouTube&src=typed_query&f=live

will there be responses?

>> No.15817122
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Pekora husband unaffected

>> No.15817133

Looks like Niji's main channel will win again with a 14k. I'm not sure Kanata's 18k counts since that was waiting room bleed over and no other site counts that.

>> No.15817142
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15817142

100k holokeks btfo

>> No.15817143

>>15817073
>6th sense
Anon, anybody that even only has 1 funtioning sense can know that ccv numbers are bullshit

>> No.15817163

>>15817114
Really? I heard viewers who use adblock are not counted. So maybe it is that.

>> No.15817178

>using the wojak thread that will be deleted

>> No.15817183

https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1478244416976470016

kek

>> No.15817192

Miko doing a normal MC stream later. This ought to be ugly.

>> No.15817196

>>15817119
The more retweet it gets, the faster the issues get resolved anon

>> No.15817204

It seems like some Hololive members have noticed it, but I wonder if any Nijis have. Even if it’s not affecting them as badly they probably can see what’s happening to the other company...kind of hoping for Cover and AnyColor to work together and somehow fix this

>> No.15817208

>>15817142
BTFO'd indeed.

>> No.15817212

>>15816888
HoloX?

>> No.15817216

>>15817192
5k tops.

>> No.15817230
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>>15817183
So this gives us a data point for what normal poll participation looks like

>> No.15817253

>>15817163
Anon that been in practice for a long while it's not new.

>> No.15817265

>>15817143
a large part of holo fanbase are still in denial, I hope tomorrow no stream will get over 10k

>> No.15817268

>>15817163
Adblocks views not counted had been occuring since Dec 2020. This issue an entirely new one, that some hypothizes is a result of actual viewers getting flagged as spam/bot because they post chat with similar texts and/or emotes repetitively.
Which is why more and more are not counted as a viewer now

>> No.15817276

>>15817163
When I tested premium vs non, I had adblock on a few tests and still acted the same. Still counted non premium, but didn't count premium account.

>> No.15817279

>>15817230
So I guess triple every current CCV and you have the real numbers then

>> No.15817281

>>15817204
Which other vtuber companies that affected by the cull? I know VSPO is affected

>> No.15817282

>>15817230
Are you trying to imply nene has almost 73k viewers?

>> No.15817292

>>15817230
>Jun got 37% participation rate
>Nene got more than 100% participation rate
Jun has normal numbers while Nene doesn't.

>> No.15817294

I'm done with vtubers
Haven't checked anime in almost a decade, I guess I will just check them

>> No.15817297
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>>15817183
lol

>> No.15817300

>>15817230
dont have twitter but keep fighting the good fight, my knees are getting soft from lack of kneeling

>> No.15817305

>>15817282
Are you retarded?

>> No.15817307

>>15817282
it was an outfit reveal so it's not that unbelievable

>> No.15817310

>>15817282
That's outfit reveal stream. It's absolutely believable

>> No.15817311

>>15817163
That's not it. Just read the archives. It has to do with viewer accounts being automatically flagged. Fresh accounts are still counted

>> No.15817312

>>15817230
Nene had a cool 64888 if the ratios check out.

>> No.15817319

>>15817282
Wasn't that her new outfit reveal stream? I would definitely think so.

>> No.15817320

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAwZjPUKmLU
Ado is live if you want to compare the number

>> No.15817323

>>15817279
I would say 2x the likes or 2x the poll results (under 3 or so mins) and you have a general idea of the real numbers at a minimum.

>> No.15817328

>>15817282
That's acceptable for an outfit reveal stream anon.

>> No.15817332

>>15817204
If I were Anykara, I wouldn't do anything.
I'm benefitting by getting better numbers than my competitors

>> No.15817335

>>15817282
Yes

>> No.15817337

>>15817114
>MiKorone 3D ~27k

>> No.15817339

>>15817163
It was tested by a lot of people here yesterday, AdBlock doesn't affect shit

>> No.15817342

>>15817294
The best part of the culling is bandwagoners who are literally only in it for the numbers getting fed up with vtubers and leaving.

>> No.15817346

>>15817163
Try it on 0views. AdBlock or not doesn't matter.

>> No.15817353

>>15817305
No, you are. Your data means nothing. You are grasping at straws to fight against something that you can do nothing about. Accept things at they are.

>> No.15817355

>>15817320
seems normal

>> No.15817358

>>15817282
wasnt that her outfit reveal stream? yes 73k would be normal

>> No.15817364

>>15817163
Thats the 2020 cull theory. This is the 2021 cull

>> No.15817384

>>15817142
See? This is what Susan wants to see in order to compete with twitch

>> No.15817387

>>15817119
first time i give a like to some random

>> No.15817396

>>15817142
king...

>> No.15817397

>>15817282
Nekko's are hyper loyal just look at her return stream and previous outfit reveals. Her subs might not be great but the ones she does have show up en force for big events.

>> No.15817408

>>15817142
Real streamers good
Vtubers bad

>> No.15817427
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15817427

What happened

>> No.15817436

>>15817397
Don't care, these are the numbers now. If you hate them, observe Superchat numbers.

>> No.15817442

>>15817320
She sounds and act like suisei

>> No.15817445

>>15817397
Not really relevant in this case. Core fanbases are just a marginal difference in relay streams like this. The bulk of viewers is composed of box-pushers, partial box-pushers and curious onlookers.

>> No.15817446

>>15817427
Shill stream. Not a data point.

>> No.15817448

>>15817427
>can't break 10k
Who is this indie?

>> No.15817458

>>15817427
>W
WATAMAGE?!

>> No.15817468

https://youtu.be/m_8LCJcCgiE
METAL WOLF CHAOS

>> No.15817470

>>15817446
I meant that huge drop out of nowhere. And he's continuing to crash.

>> No.15817475

>>15817436
There is a difference between a scaler and a time variant variable that we don't know what it depends on. These aren't the new numbers because what are the new numbers will change context almost daily.

>> No.15817480
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15817480

Thank you Nene for your numberfagging.

>> No.15817511

>>15817480
She's doing gods work

>> No.15817514
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>>15817119
lets keep watch, but so far the intern is just copypasting his response formats

>> No.15817521

>>15817468
xD

>> No.15817529

>>15817442
Good

>> No.15817537

>open a literal one viewer stream with regular account
>view never counted
>open the same stream with a work account
>view counted within 30 secs
Did this a few times, leaving the stream in between attempts. The only thing affecting the live viewer count was the relatively fresh work account

>> No.15817541

>>15817281
vspo seems to be taking one of the hardest hits - like down to at least 1/3 of normal

>> No.15817542

Numbers fucked, waiting rooms are stream peaks so Towa extends her waiting room 30 minutes for her zatsu. Wonder what that'll do to numbers.

>> No.15817545

>>15817480
Bless this girl

>> No.15817544
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15817544

ANGIE NOOO

>> No.15817564

>>15817544
She'll make it back and hit 12k

>> No.15817567

So you are telling me even if Luna was at 14k at some point it actually could have been >30k?

>> No.15817582
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15817582

Looks like an earthquake reading

>> No.15817583

>>15817480
Poll actually got up to 5.9K. Also remember you have to be logged in to vote.

>> No.15817586

>>15817119
It is the algorithm and not even Susan herself knows what the algorithm is doing but the algorithm is always right. Try to send a tweet in Nihonngo or something because we won't confirm information ourselves. Please understand.
Best regards, Youtube.

>> No.15817590

>>15817567
It would probably have been 50k at the top. 35k at the lower parts.

>> No.15817597

>>15817427
Why does Niji get to play League but Holos don't? Gura said in her stream today that they weren't given permissions

>> No.15817602

>>15817427
Ange and Gwelu streams starting, maybe?

>> No.15817603

>ollie still getting her usual number, in fact all ID does
hmmm only holojp and nijijp this time susan?!

>> No.15817604

>Suisei 3k viewers in a zatsudan
this is horrible. They'll come for your oshi too

>> No.15817606
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>>15817544
subaru's is worse kek

>> No.15817612

>>15817542
nope

>> No.15817614

>>15817537
you count as a viewer even if watching logged off from any accounts. But old active accounts are getting culled

>> No.15817613

>>15817564
>4.4k after 5min
is getting worse across the site

>> No.15817621

Watching an indie's membership activation stream and she's got more members than viewers. Cool beans.

>> No.15817649

Suisei
Waiting 5.3k
Stream 3.2k (10 minutes in)

>> No.15817651

>>15817567
Yep and inversely, once Pekora and Marine return to streaming their new max will probably be 12k to 16k.

>> No.15817652

>>15817163
Excellent bait anon. You got 7 actual replies to you and no-one pointing it out. Here's another (you) for the good work.

>> No.15817653
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>>15817614
>But old active accounts are getting culled

>> No.15817668

>>15817514
Please understand, if you're paying $15-20/month to watch the stream on an account from 2004 you're spam, but your exact same IP in an incognito window with no engagement history and no account is not spam. Our algorithm is very advanced

>> No.15817671

Is it me or is the cull getting worse though? How long until major vtubers are sub 10k?

>> No.15817674

>>15817614
Yeah the more activity on your account, probably comments in live chat too, increases your chances to be counted as a bot.

>> No.15817692
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15817692

Context of pic: poll was up for 30 seconds. I couldn't nab it but the stream archive should show it.

I bet kawaii watchers are full of people who watch a lot of vtubers from hololive and nijisanji.

>> No.15817695

>>15817603
no one knows what the fuck is going on. it feels so random

>> No.15817696

>ADO ALMOST 10K
HOLO AND NIJI BROS...

>> No.15817701

>>15817582
did he do an Ame-tier fakeout ending or something?

>> No.15817713

The funniest part is that at the beginning people thought it was because of Pekora's christmas that she wasn't hitting the high numbers anymore.
If the EN relay numbers never hitting back the waiting room numbers didn't ring some alarms I don't know what to tell you.

>> No.15817731

loserbait or whoever, ask your coworkers to do more quick polls and kick up a fuss.
NijiEN people, if you start experiencing the same thing do the same thing and kick up a fuss.

Both should do shit on twitch just to start a foundation for the exodus.

>> No.15817738

>>15817606
Susan holoan confirmed

>> No.15817740

>>15817614
My old account is not being culled, I am being counted on 0view streams

>> No.15817745

>>15817696
Ado is massive, she should be a lot higher than this.

>> No.15817754
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15817754

I'm fucking done for today, this graph makes no fucking sense, how is the fucking growth of completely unrelated streams with completely unrelated content going extremely parallel?
see Ange (Niji) and Subaru (Holo), they are only different by ONE viewer, you can barely see the 2 lines there, jesus

>> No.15817759

>>15817713
Or maybe Susan is a nousagi who got pissed at vtubers due to Dec24 Yab

>> No.15817763

>>15817612
huh?

>> No.15817768

>>15817740
Try going to some holo's stream and spamming kusa and emotes and see what that does to your account's flagged status.

>> No.15817770

>>15817713
Rushia never hit her 43k and people blamed it on her $20 mic for the Christmas relay. Rushia has very active members mind you.

>> No.15817771

>>15817671
More accounts get flagged as they age/comment/whatever metric google uses
The less casual viewers you have, the worse it gets

>> No.15817774

check out the graph for gwelu, another cliff of death

>> No.15817775

Towa has the right idea. Delay the stream 30 minutes while you take a bath. The waiting room is your peak now.

>> No.15817778

>>15817119
this one is far too polite so it will likely get ignored kek
TeamYoutube only responds to angry posters so that they can make the audience think there's nothing wrong with their system.

>> No.15817782

When will they switch over to Twitch?

>> No.15817790
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15817790

>>15817754
IT KEEPS SPREADING
this isnt numberrot
THIS IS A NUMBER VIRUS

>> No.15817801

>>15817759
>Susan got sick of people calling Pekora reclining so she reclined the entire industry.

>> No.15817806

>>15817754
>4378
>4379
jesas

>> No.15817807
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>>15817606
Looking this make me sad

>> No.15817805

>>15817713
>people thought it was because of Pekora's christmas that she wasn't hitting the high numbers anymore
Did anybody really believe that bait though?

>> No.15817810

Tallyanon, if you're here, are we counting waiting room numbers for the gold?

>> No.15817811

>>15817754
Damn Subaru and Ange lines up perfectly

>> No.15817821
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15817821

Huh. Ok then

>> No.15817823

I was adamant on not going to twitch because of how easy it is to inflate your metrics there but Youtube now is the exact opposite to such an extreme that nothing short of migrating to Twitch makes sense.

>> No.15817824

>prime time
>all Hololive streams combined have around 15k viewers total
kek

>> No.15817828

>>15817754
this reflects that it's the algo doing shit

>> No.15817829

>>15817807
This is just your regular Niji recline.

>> No.15817832

>>15817775
Imagine if somebody ended the stream and started up a new one right after just to see the waiting room numbers

>> No.15817835

>>15817010
I see the mods have given up completely on banning you wojak posting retarded shitposting children. What a fucking shambles this board is now.

>> No.15817836
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15817836

What the fuck is happening. Kuzuha's viewers are constantly going up and down.

>> No.15817840

>>15817652
it's actually exquisite cause the english isn't too fucked but then "it is" rather than "it's" is too stiff so it's really hard to tell

>> No.15817841

>>15817790
New coof variant, its proof we're in the matrix.

>> No.15817847

>>15817754
the graph for Botan and Suisei have the same exact shape too, just shifted along the y-axis

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>>15817807
>>15817790
>>15817606
>>15817544
>>15817754
>Do you rike it anons?

>> No.15817850

>>15817807
Back up to 7k.

>> No.15817851

>>15817754
CHUUBA VIRUS

>> No.15817859

There are still people who think it's a coincidence.
It's all inevitable, and not the work of Youtube-Kun.

It's fun to see a drama queen suit actor go off the air.
What's great is the person who drew Mickey Mouse, and Disney for running it. Not you, the suit-actor.

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>15817824

>> No.15817870

>>15817805
There is definitely at least that one very active poster here who does unironically still believe that.

>> No.15817877

>>15817828
As if that was ever in doubt, yea, normal fucking data doesn't look this goddamn neat.
What absolute garbage.

>> No.15817879

>>15817754
whatever it is, it's affecting everyone equally

>> No.15817880

>>15817850
this shit aint hitting 10k in the next hour

>> No.15817886

>>15817824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3znlZUIyC8
Towas zatsudan waiting room has more people than most streams, kek

>> No.15817889

>>15817754
>>15817847
I told already, the cull is not some neat percentage cut. It's completely nonsensical and unpredictable. CCV isn't just reduced, it's been rendered meaningless.

>> No.15817898

>>15817836
Are his fans testing out actual botting on his stream kek

>> No.15817901

>>15817740
>no pic
ogey

>> No.15817908
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15817908

>>15817790
Hololive: doing the ants dance
Nijisanji: Carl's other half

>> No.15817912

>>15817342
Which amounts to absolutely no one so far since no one watches vtubers just for the numbers.

>> No.15817926

>>15817807
I've said it before but Nijishitty is not being culled. They are just naturally reclining since people are tired of their shitty content.

>> No.15817929

>>15817886
This is the new meta, open a waiting room for 30mins and let it peak

>> No.15817938

>>15817442
>>15817320
A much more menhera Suisei, or Polka.

Still, why isn't she a vtuber yet?
She clearly prefers not showing her face all the time. Or does she like changing visuals too much?

>> No.15817947

>>15817926
anon, pretty sure it's like the 3rd day in a row you try this bait

>> No.15817949

>>15817828
That was obvious from the fact that the viewercount is ticking back up extremely slowly once the stream starts. It's definitely doing something to filter out the majority of viewers. Some pajeet massively fucked up when doing the yearly clean up of bot accounts

>> No.15817950

All i know is that everyone is affected by this except Pakora.

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>> No.15817963

>>15817849
whore

>> No.15817970

>>15817886
Twappers mogging suisei kek

>> No.15817973

>>15817949
Hopefully Youtube is fixing the issue and will pretend nothing ever happened.

>> No.15817983

>>15817950
True that

>> No.15817991

>>15817912
I guess it's true that many of those bandwagoners don't actually WATCH vtubers, but it's still good if they lose interest and move on somewhere else.

>> No.15817993

just woke up. Did i miss any great number happenings

>> No.15818000
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15818000

Fucking lol
Not vtubers but Ado is fucking cute, give her a L2D model already.

>> No.15818016

>>15817898
Can't be, the algorithm doesn't catch actual bots
Just look at any kpop stream with hundreds of thousands of viewers and a chat moving slower than Kuzuha shilling League

>> No.15818022

>>15817468
Isn't that fromsoftware?!?!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av-rLcM5AgY

>> No.15818027

>>15818000
Why does Susan hate anime so much

>> No.15818029

>>15817993
IS THE END ANON ALL CHUBAS VIEWERS ARE GETTING SHADOWBANNED

>> No.15818033

>>15817993
The great culling is affect Nijisanji streams the same way. Also Luna's live got 13k and there are only 4 streams above 10k for the day.

>> No.15818034

>>15817938
Why give up a cut of what you're making to a corpo when you're doing just fine solo?
It's as simple as that. She has a similar trajectory (Utaite on NND iirc) and in another timeline, perhaps she did. Not this one though.

>> No.15818039

>>15817993
numbers are even more fucked than yesterday and it seems to be getting worse, id be out of here if i could

>> No.15818044

>>15817929
i bet so many holos gonna have "tech problem" before starting their stream starting tomorrow

>> No.15818049

>>15817955
This is par for the course. Doing only FFIX streams for the longest time did a toll on her fanbase.

>> No.15818051
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Here is Kuzuha VOD numbers in the exact millisecond the stream ended

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>>15817836
reminds me of this bullshit on wagahais first full holox collab

>> No.15818055

TATSUKETEEEE

>> No.15818059 [DELETED] 

Holoteannies on suicide watch

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>>15818022
ITS FUCKING REAL

>> No.15818081

>>15818033
Nijis are just reclining in general. They weren't affected by the new cull.

>> No.15818086

>>15818034
Well, she can be an indie vtuber

>> No.15818088

>>15817603
Anya was at double digit viewers at some points.

>> No.15818096

This is stressing me out more than it should. I’m gonna sleep now. Hope my oshi won’t be a two-view by the time I wake up!

>> No.15818099

>>15818051
Ludwig got 200k views for a 2 hours stream to 25k people. look at the archive

>> No.15818101

>>15817970
It's almost as if she's talking about her 2nd anniversary live or something

>> No.15818104

>>15818022
>>15818062
Devolver are the global publisher for XD, before you go getting excited about permissions

>> No.15818106

It's over ... they've gotta move to Twitch

>> No.15818105

>>15817468
>>15818022
>>15818062
Such a bad time to tell fromsoft that you can get numbers for games

>> No.15818111

>>15818034
didn't mean she should join a corpo, but go the
AmaLee or p-maru route to get a model yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZZNBKEjdK0

Also, i realized she reminds me most of Gibara right now.

>> No.15818114

>>15817603
Reine wasn't

>> No.15818116

Bros i dont want to but I will try to invoke the usual drama channels that on somepoint had reported on the vtuber community news on twitter, any sugestions? I was thinking channels like The Quartening, Hero Hei, and the Anituber community for help or at least normie awareness. I dont like to rely on those cloutchaser faggots but my love for the Girls it's bigger than my pride.
I'm an non english speaker so more people engaging on twitter is appreciated.

>> No.15818121

>>15817993
Waiting room gold

>> No.15818123

>>15818051
This is to be expected. He did a shill stream which is not very popular.

>> No.15818126

Ado could easily be a top Vtuber

>> No.15818127
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15818127

I'm surprised that for all the numberfagging here no one is using NASFAQ for it. They have graphs stretching a year for stats.
Almost no one is remotely experiencing total weekly viewcount drops, it's even inclining.

>> No.15818142

>>15818033
>13k for a live
Id be amused if anyone with more than 2 digit IQ doubted it this point holy fuck

>> No.15818151
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15818151

>>15818081

>> No.15818156

>>15818062
it's probably the Sony part that keeps hololive from getting Souls permissions. it's like the "Porsche in racing games" situation again.

>> No.15818163

>>15818022
You could just check the description

>> No.15818166

>>15818053
W of watamage in there, the prophecy was clear

>> No.15818170

>>15818123
It's not his first shill stream. It's his second lowest peak CCV on record tho, with the lowest being his christmas shill stream, both being the only ones he failed to break 10k since Mado keeps records

>> No.15818171

>>15818049
She can't reach the waiting room numbers

>> No.15818175

>>15818126
You can't even understand her. Stop pretending to be a nip, seanig.

>> No.15818174

>>15818049
XIV, as in 14 anon, not 9.

>> No.15818177

>ADO 17K
uooooooooooooooooooooogggggggghhhhhh

>> No.15818181

>>15818051
To get that he needed a 8.5k average if the ten minute rule is in effect. He didn't even peak there. Even Kuzuha's shill stream got culled 30%.

>> No.15818187

>>15818116
Desperate times call for desperate measures huh....

>> No.15818190

>>15818127
we know already that pretty much all the other stats have either remained the same or even inclined on some cases, it's the live count that's completely fucked beyond belief

>> No.15818191

>>15817880
Back to 8k.

>> No.15818197

>>15817142
Holo inlaw he counts

>> No.15818202
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15818202

they got Gwelu, I repeat, they got Gwelu

>> No.15818203

>>15818177
She had much more during her last stream she did but I cannot find the numbers.

>> No.15818207

>>15818181
>if the ten minute rule is in effect
The "10 minutes" stats showed by Pikamee is VOD view time, not live view time (because Youtube doesn't have a live view time statistics in their dashboard)

>> No.15818219
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15818219

This definitely has something to do with viewer overlap since collabs get hit the hardest by it.

>> No.15818223

>>15817142
what's the deal with this guy? Is his content really that good? Is he the xQc of Japan?

>> No.15818232

>>15818170
Well the recline certainly follows the trend provided by graph anon. Niji females are already below their 2019 median. It's just a matter of time before the record their worst peaks this coming days.

>> No.15818240

https://youtu.be/u4t3oP3hCr0
thread theme

>> No.15818242

if tag==virtualyoutuber
view_count = view_count * 0.5

>> No.15818246

>>15818156
Sony have nothing to do with Dark Souls anon, the problem is Fromsoft self-publish their games in Japan and absolutely refuse to give streaming permission
Metal Wolf Chaos XD is an exception as Devolver have the rights in Japan too

>> No.15818248

>>15818202
I feel like Gwelu would be someone to speak publicly about this. He’s a huge numberfag. He’s always looking at analytics and tweeting about numbers

>> No.15818256

>>15818223
The latter

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>>15817603
Really? Ollie's normal number looks like pic rel?

Her usual MC is 2,5k IIRC

>> No.15818269

>>15818174
You're right. My bad. I meant XIV.

>> No.15818276

>>15817778
This, I always shit on them and they respond to me fast

>> No.15818277

>>15818242
Seems like lately it's closer to *0.25

>> No.15818281

>all these /#/ doom posting
post your top ccv for the upcoming mario kart event
50k - peko

>> No.15818288

>>15817204
NijiEN are not affected at all. Looks like they even inclined a bit since it started. NijiJP is mixed - some reclined, some inclined, some stayed the same.

>> No.15818287
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15818287

When will youtube do the needful?

>> No.15818296
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15818296

Yeah I saw Towa's views dropping in real time lmao

>> No.15818302

>>15818281
25k Peko

>> No.15818305

>>15818106
Twitch is also a shit platform.. Fuck me why aren't there any better alternatives. Right.. since running a streaming/vod service is a loss.

>> No.15818304

>>15818281
15k Peko

>> No.15818310

Aqua stream, let's see how fucked her numbers will be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxzwceVuLk4

>> No.15818315

>>15818263
This stream would have been 1.5k stream

>> No.15818321

>>15818281
30k Towa

>> No.15818325

>>15818191
Almost back to 9k.

>> No.15818328

holy shit, Towa's zatsu went from 5422 waiting to under 600 when it went live.

>> No.15818330

>>15818177
>15,917 watching now
>15,390 watching now
>15,053 watching now
>14,555 watching now
over 1 minute
Why is Ado dropping viewers fast?
Is the bot picking up vtuber fans and purging them?

>> No.15818332

>>15818281
8k Peko

>> No.15818333

>>15817768
It may be that idk
I did a search on vtdata and so far I have used the chat less than 30 times in over a year. The closet thing to a spam that I ever did was sending a F once to Kronii

>> No.15818337

>>15818127
I don't think that viewcounts were ever in question though, even a very rough eyeball glance at VOD views across their channels for the past week+ would indicate that CCV is in a good spot, yet we have so much data contrarty to that point.

>> No.15818342

>>15818240
I wish that I could turn back time...cause now I can't numberfag...can't live without the numbers I Iove...

>> No.15818348

>>15818330
towa starting

>> No.15818350

>>15818281
Peko, Aqua, Gura 10-20k, Towa 20k-30k

>> No.15818351

>>15818310
>Aqua has the commercial for her live running as wait room
nice

>> No.15818376

>>15818305
If Microsoft couldn't make it work (with a platform that had better streaming tech than either) then nobody else has a chance

>> No.15818384
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15818384

Just a reminder that it was confirmed today that the cull is getting exponentially worse as time goes on. Towa got 20k for her 3D live, Pekora got 50k for her Pokemon tournament but we have two streams today that should have been 30k+ that stalled out at 13k.

Not a single Hololive stream will hit 10k tommorrow.

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>>15818116
Contact them, some might at least read it like this one. Not one of those you listed

>> No.15818392

Namibia above 2k, the culling never existed, hololive and vtubing as a whole is just reclining. Let's enjoy the final 2 years of this hobby and stop caring.

>> No.15818395

>>15817183
You're fucking terrible at communicating dude

>> No.15818400

>>15818281
15k twappers.

>> No.15818401

Youtube just erased 85% of Towa's live viewers

>> No.15818409

Had a thought but don't have time to investigate it today. Could the HL Christmas relay have been the instigating factor for flagging so many JP viewer accounts? It could be this change has been lurking in the background for a while but didn't mass-flag all at once until an event like a short stream relay.
I would check the participants to see if they were affected more/earlier.

>> No.15818415

Yeah anons, take your fucking pictures, this is the kind of stuff that we will talk about in 10 years and (You) were here

>> No.15818418

>>15818384
>Pekora got 50k for her Pokemon tournament
Before the Pajeeting that would have been a 100k+ stream.

>> No.15818423

>>15818330
It was about her reacting to her usseewa piano video and it is over so some viewers might close the stream now.
But her numbers should be much higher.

>> No.15818427

>>15818288
rosemi and elira are.

>> No.15818437

>>15818116
Getting TheQuarterpounder on the case will discredit anyone that brings this up.

>> No.15818451

>>15818101
Post-live zatsudans aren't really a buff. She was only above Suisei because waiting room is cull-free and she delayed the stream for an extra inflated waiting room.

>> No.15818453

>>15818127
yea vod views is unaffected, it is ccv that is fucked

>> No.15818463

I thought people didn't care about ccv about the numbers. everyone is a numberfag now

>> No.15818465

I hope the numbers stay like this, this is more entertaining than the usual numberfagging

>> No.15818472

>>15817597
Allah's light protects holos

>> No.15818475
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>>15818288
Oh you're gonna love this one. This is Ike's numbers for a free chat right now. It's also the third highest ccv he's ever had outside of debut

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15818489

meanwhile nijiEN graph looks normal af kekek

>> No.15818493
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15818493

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1478343029451018242
?????
is this even allowed

>> No.15818505

>>15818489
>>15818475
Is just a matter of time, doesnt look anyone is safe on the long run

>> No.15818508

>Suisei had 6k people in the waiting room for her zatsudan stream
>4k live viewers rn
Susan why

>> No.15818511

>>15817183
Next time you @ them be less autistic please and thank you.

>> No.15818516

>>15818475
>>15818489
someone tell them to NEVER multi-collab with any NijiJP, they will get the virus!

>> No.15818540

>>15818463
I think this is a rare case where caring about numbers is actually a positive, as it's quite possible Youtube isn't paying out for premium user watch time on live streams, meaning they are literally stealing peoples money

>> No.15818551

>>15818493
graduation soon...

>> No.15818553

>>15818489
It's been 25 minutes and he's getting close to his waiting room number, at least he's getting it, not like Iroha or Towa who never even reached it

>> No.15818562

>>15818493
Haachama doesn't care

>> No.15818564
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15818564

>>15818427
>>15818489
>meanwhile nijiEN graph looks normal af kekek
No it doesn't. Selected streamers may not be affected (even kanae got a 10k before turning 2k) but it will come for all of them

>> No.15818565

Whichever of you guys that has the highest followers on twitter should really start a campaign on Susan and her hatred toward vtubers, specifically hololive. I don’t have twitter so there is nothing I can do.

>> No.15818585

>>15818505
Is this the Holocope?

>> No.15818595

>>15818564
Whatever is going on it's spreading. Channels that look unaffected can catch it.

>> No.15818596

>>15818409
25th Christmas Relay + 26th Nijisanji Mario Kart Relay perhaps

>> No.15818600

30k vtuber -> 15k pekora, kuzuha
20k vtuber -> 10k subaru almost 10k now
10k vtuber -> 5k suisei

The 50% cut is real.

>> No.15818604

>>15818116
Do people here even have twitters? well at least we are not asking discord trannys or redditors

>> No.15818621

>>15817142
I Kneel to your husband Pakora.

>> No.15818645
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15818645

>>15818595
It's even taking out VSPO girls. Nobody is immune

>> No.15818646

Towa had 5,500 waiting and she's only at 1,400 ten minutes into the stream.

>> No.15818648

>>15818116
Godspeed anon, the thing is that this shit is unironically juicy as fuck. Imagine telling the public "hey you know youtube premium which also is a way to support your favorite content creators? Guess what? In all of youtube's incredible competence, premium users could still be counted as bots which could mean that all that premium money is being delivered straight into Susan's ever-expanding pockets" or how you can still be counted as a bot even if your account is a decade old and yet fresh accounts, which could be made to bot somthing, are counted. And since youtube is keeping us in the dark, we can say that regular views are being fucked which could ruin small youtubers finally getting attention from sponsors.

>> No.15818650

>>15818516
Imagine if it is some rogue machine learning AI, and that associated channels 'marked accounts' watch actually can 'spread' this flag to other accounts. That would be the most hilarious thing. Just start watching some normie streamers and watch as their numbers get ganked.

>> No.15818653

>susan is handpicking which vtubers to cull and which not
Ah so this is the new boogeyman these days huh.

>> No.15818657

>>15818565
No one will care about what you have to say as soon as you try to make this a culture war thing. Just post the poll and viewer screencaps in an easily digestible form and you'll get people to agree.

>> No.15818662

>>15818126
She's a good singer but she can't speak for hours and keep the audience entertained

>> No.15818670

>>15818645
To be fair, that is a kusoge
Noah seemed unaffected with the new years eve stuff too (haven't checked since then)

>> No.15818671

>>15818600
Suisei is more than 10k on most streams. She hovers around 15k with peaks at 20k for Tetris and karaoke

>> No.15818679

Suisei is now a sub 5k streamer

>> No.15818689

>>15818493
I'm sure this will be deleted later by her, how long is the comment already?

>> No.15818691

>>15818653
>boogeyman
anon, the NUMBERS are THERE
you can see them

>> No.15818692

>>15818564
I think female viewers might do better with the algorithm in general but also Luxiem is quite new.
Assuming casual viewers are affected less and regulars who have been watching long-term are reduced by the cull more, it makes total sense.

>> No.15818697

>>15818126
There's absolutely no reason for her to be a vtuber, she has a song with nearly 200 million views

>> No.15818701
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>>15818116
holy shit, i think it's about time....

>> No.15818707

Gwelu is back up to 10k.

>> No.15818723

>>15818679
But she doing zatsudan right now which around 8-9k normally.

>> No.15818724

>>15817790
ccovid21

>> No.15818727

>>15817597
I am pretty sure holojp played league before even after taiwan yab, did en management just slack on permissions?

>> No.15818738

>>15818653
are you even reading the fucking thread anon

>> No.15818740

>>15818670
Game being a kusoge doesn't make your CCV drop 80% from waiting room numbers. I feel like we're getting a lot of amateur numberfaggers who don't know how to read graphs. It's not about her number being low (even though it is), it's the extremely unnatural drop from the number of people waiting and the incredibly slow crawl back up

>> No.15818755

>>15818727
On blbl

>> No.15818754
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15818754

>>15818707
30 min in, still didn't beat his waiting room

>> No.15818757

>>15818707
>30min to beat wiating room

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15818758

>ripple is hacking to 1m subs channel and streaming same shit now

lmao

>> No.15818762
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15818762

>Pakora unaffected
>Jun unaffected
THEY ARE

>> No.15818764

>>15818508
>>15818401
Do we really need to do it for every stream now?

>> No.15818766

>>15818657
>4chan
>not turning everything into a culture war
I'm afraid that's impossible.

>> No.15818774

>>15818724
it was there all along... in front of our eyes...

>> No.15818778

>>15818437
Well i do hate the faggot but I remember you tha he gave normie awareness on the Coco zhang problem and youtube doxxing their own talents

>> No.15818791

>>15818764
>Do we really need to do it for every stream now?
Yes

>> No.15818798

>>15818754
We can only assume that his long running meme stream hurt his metrics.

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15818800

>>15818670
>noah seemed unaffected

>> No.15818802

All vtuber fans are botsssssssssss! Yeaeeeeeh! Machine rules!!!!!!!!!

>> No.15818819

>>15818116
Try informing non-vtuber adjacent normietubers, the issues probably is not limited to vtubers. They probably updated the spam account detectors to include spammy chat messages despite the premium status of the account, which incidentally affects vtubers more due to their chat culture.

>> No.15818824

>>15818437
stop being a faggot holy kek

>> No.15818836

Just accept it number anons... waiting room numbers being peaks are going to be the norm from now on...

>> No.15818845

>>15818653
>boogeyman
>ogeyman
ogey

>> No.15818847

>>15818800
Looks normal to me. Valorant hasn't reached the status that Apex had in JP.

>> No.15818851

Daily rank so far

Nijisanji 14,085
Gura 13,772
Luna 13,186
Kanata 11,664
Gwelu 10,403

>> No.15818854

>>15818437
He helped one time
https://youtu.be/IFhz7MyiRQA

>> No.15818858

>>15818800
I meant her nye stream specifically

>> No.15818864

>>15818116
Don't do Hero Hei. Quarterpounder should be fine because Coco featured him before.

>> No.15818866

This new Fromsoft game Botan is playing looks like shit

>> No.15818873

>>15818691
All I'm seeing is plenty of Holocope since VShojo is mogging your whores

>> No.15818890

>>15818851
these numbers are just sad.

>> No.15818893 [DELETED] 

>>15818800
retardchama, top is ccv, culled to half. Bottom is her views, still the same, despite the stream being even shorter.

>> No.15818899

>>15818873
ah, it's you, should've known, back from work?
sure, sure sure

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Rosemi...

>> No.15818907

>>15818757
At least the waiting room ceiling was broken.

>> No.15818909

>>15818893
nigga compare the ccv and time to the final views

>> No.15818914
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15818914

>>15818851
Kanata

>> No.15818930

>>15818516
What the hell is that?! Virtual Covid?!

>> No.15818937

SUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

>> No.15818940

>>15818907
Next thing the algorithm will nerf the waiting rooms.

>> No.15818946

>>15818800
>>15818847
retardchama, top is ccv, culled to half. Bottom is her vod views, still the same, despite the stream being even shorter.

>> No.15818954

>>15818903
She's not a strong streamer. The numbers are just reverting back to her mean.

>> No.15818958

How long does it take YouTube to update views after a stream ends?
I'm seeing 25k views vs 26k likes on Luna's Live right now

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15818969

>>15817603
Ollie definitely got hit since she usually average from 2k to 3k and this is Minecraft so it should be on the high side range. Here is her Minecraft number a week back.

>> No.15818973

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkJC9-9mqrM
This girl must have the craziest SC to viewer ratio of anyone.

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>>15818958
meh, they barely started approving the viewers

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>> No.15819004

>>15818914
>Waiting room

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15819015

>>15818914
Anon, I...

>> No.15819017

>>15818973
Why so much?

>> No.15819030

>>15818958
usually takes like 2hrs to start updating them if there is toom many

>> No.15819034

>>15819001
jesas

>> No.15819048

>>15818973
HOLY JESAS
she's been affected
>70 viewers
>140 likes

>> No.15819064

>>15818650
The numbersplague

>> No.15819073
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15819073

>People were shitposting with these numbers
>Now no one can get them
She still the strongest even after the cull

>> No.15819071

>>15819001
Was just about to comment, what the actual actual fuck.

>> No.15819079

>>15819015
The algorithm is never wrong, 15k people only showed up because they really enjoy the first 5 seconds of Kanata's loading screen and dropped a like and left once they'd seen it

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>>15819001
almost 90°

>> No.15819082

>>15819001
twip... my poor twap...

>> No.15819103

>>15819001
anyone compared zatsus etc with streams likely to attract more tourists to see if the former get hit harder? with the yt premium fuckery could be they just straight cull all channel members too

>> No.15819105

>>15819017
She's a Kiryukai toy for having the same mama.

>> No.15819114

>>15819082
She is lucky, her colleagues are 3 views.

>> No.15819116

>>15819073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xADSDapqn9o

>> No.15819122

>>15818723
cope, her MK only getting 7-8k nowadays

>> No.15819123

>>15819001
comical

>> No.15819130

>>15818954
Such a drop in numbers is not justified, as for her this game is buff. The fall in interest is reflected in the sekiro streams, but not here

>> No.15819131

>>15818866
>new
holy kek

>> No.15819132

>>15819103
>Cull members too
that's top evilish

>> No.15819135

>>15818973
>65 ccv
>a third gave SC, half that akas
Supreme luck but I’m willing to bet she should have 300 viewers right now

>> No.15819139

>>15819001
>-5k bots
Working as intended

>> No.15819147

>>15819001
Looking at the graph and the type of stream, I'm not surprised if Youtube ignore viewers in waiting room as stream viewers

>> No.15819154

Akua going to be 5k vtuber nooooooooooooooo! It's 2019 again bois.

>> No.15819170

Gwalu is up to 11k now.

>> No.15819171

so.. today is Kanata gold right /#/ bros?

>> No.15819178

>>15819001
Get fucked tower lmao. the worst in 4th gen.

>> No.15819185

>>15819103
>>15819132
We already know they culled members even before this, Kiara compared a poll against the viewer count in her dashboard during a member stream at least once

>> No.15819189
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15819189

>WATAMAGE SAW YOU MAKING FUN OF WATAME'S LIVE NUMBERS
APOLOGIZE OR THE NUMBERS WILL NEVER BE BACK!


>WATAMAGE PLEASE, I BEG YOU!
>I'M SORRY!

>> No.15819198

>We're at the point where each company can only have one 10k stream at a time (if that)

>> No.15819208

>>15818116
Go big or go home, go for internet historian

>> No.15819220

>>15819073
Gura can

>> No.15819234

>>15819189
Watamage have mercy on your fellow chuubas. By your mercy, bring back the numbers

>> No.15819240
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>>15819170
40 minutes in, finally caught up to his waiting room

>> No.15819247

>pekor not streaming
>marin only uploading short vid
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>> No.15819249

>>15819001
twab....

>> No.15819261

>>15819001
I need a guerilla stream that has a short waiting room or even better none for comparison

>> No.15819263

>>15819240
>this could have been easily a 20k stream
I WANNA GO BACK
TAKE ME WATAMAGE

>> No.15819275

>>15819247
They're not dumb, there is no point in putting theirs in the line before management at very least makes a token effort at determining what's going on

>> No.15819286

Next year we'll be happy when vtubers are breaking 1k live views.

>> No.15819288
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15819288

>1300 waiting for Mel
>Probably down to 300 when the stream starts

>> No.15819290

>>15819073
Sasuga number rabbit

>> No.15819293

>>15819240
I'm not surprised if this stream actually has 22k viewers

>> No.15819308

>>15819263
>20k
Anon, it opened at a 11k waiting room, this could have easily been a 25-30k with the cast it has

>> No.15819312

>>15819185
Good. I hope Susan removes the bots that pay a monthly fee to watch member-only content that does not even show a public CCV number.
Thank you algorithm, very cool.

>> No.15819317

>>15819208
>internet historian
By the time he gets a video out everyone will be a 2view anon

>> No.15819325

>>15819189
Watamage I'm sorry for laughing at your 3D live please bring back the numbers

>> No.15819326

>>15819073
usada san,i kneel

>> No.15819328

>>15819286
>1/10串どりゃあああああああああああ

>> No.15819330

>>15819286
Next year we'll all be on Twitch and the topic at hand is outrage at Twitch implementing stricter DMCA controls after they and multiple content creators get sued.

>> No.15819335

there must be one holo aor niji that will talk about this, there is no way

>> No.15819337

>>15819001
SCREAM

>> No.15819347

Chinks are about to spam my gay dog's channel. She might get some numbers.

>> No.15819355

Do you guys think Kiara would be willing to set up an experiment to show the culling is real and make it trending on twitter?

>> No.15819356

>>15819286
2023 gold medal is for a 3view

>> No.15819359

>>15819073
Pakora isn't included in the cull though?

>> No.15819363

>>15818851
Kanata is at 17k

Nijisanji is not winning gold today

>> No.15819380

>7k waiting for Miko MC
she ain't getting 10k on MC no more
switch to your Twitch account migo!!

>> No.15819388

>>15819363
>the wait room will win the gold today
poetic

>> No.15819398
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15819398

>>15818851

>> No.15819408

>>15819073
The numbers have been going down even further now though.

>> No.15819411

>>15819359
>Pakora isn't included in the cull though?
Anon, a Pokemon tournament with an all stars got a lower peak than Pekora playing Pokemon on her own.

>> No.15819414

>>15818851
Gwelu is almost at 12k.

>> No.15819417

>>15819363
*was before she started

>> No.15819425

>>15819355
Kiara is the one I'd think most likely to do it, but still not sure if she would.

>> No.15819431

>>15819355
i'm not kiara anon
but i would support her

>> No.15819435

Assuming this shit won't get fixed when will the daily top list cutoff be reduced from 10k

>> No.15819436
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>>15817603
Yeah, definitely not.

>> No.15819440

>>15819335
Only the Dragon of hololive and she is gone

>> No.15819441

at this point waiting rooms will win gold

>> No.15819445

10k waiting for miko now

>> No.15819447

>>15819411
t's just Pekoschizo and his usual schizo antics.

>> No.15819455

10k waiting for Miko

>> No.15819456

Bros, I don't feel like anyone deserves gold today, what if we start counting from Silver today?

>> No.15819458

>>15819411
You idiot, stop replying to P a k o r a poster in earnest, it's a troll, and they've been at it ever since christmas.

>> No.15819466

Migo waited for waiting room to get 10k before starting I KNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLL

>> No.15819467

>>15819411
Have you ever thought that she's just reclining?

>> No.15819474

>>15819440
it affects kson too she had a 1.7k karaoke

>> No.15819475

>Iofi has more viewers than Flare

>> No.15819480

>>15819363
>holobros clinging on waiting room peak
...bros

>> No.15819485

What if youtube "fixes" this by reducing video views proportionally to the ccv reduction?

>> No.15819487

11k now

>> No.15819494

>>15819330
This already happened anon
They warned streamers that they could get banned for copyrighted music in clips other people had created from their streams 3 years ago, and the streamers' only recourse was to go and manually delete thousands of clips one by one

>> No.15819493
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15819493

He was NOT getting botted this time. Apologize. It was just an earlier prototype of the cull.

>> No.15819497

Ado's moe gap between her songs and streams is so huge

>> No.15819501
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she's not even gonna get 7k im saying it right now

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>>15819487
pfft

>> No.15819510

>>15819079
That peak was me. I waited in the waiting room for about 12 minutes. The second the stream starts, I left a like and fucked off the first second.
I'm pretty sure there are 7k viewers just like me.

>> No.15819516

Miko 11k waiting........

>> No.15819520

>>15819493
Maybe he was botting and Ike was patient zero that spread the numbers AIDS to everyone else

>> No.15819528

>11k waiting
>1k viewers
s-sugoi

>> No.15819532

>>15819494
They're still watching full seasons of TV shows on stream so not much has changed

>> No.15819535

>>15819493
lol no, how does this have anything to do with the cull

>> No.15819541

>>15819510
holy based

>> No.15819542
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15819542

This is what realistic likes to viewer ratio looks like, so every stream needs 6x likes for actual numbers

>> No.15819546

>>15819493
>This stream procs AI and went retard after that
I'm not surprised that what happened

>> No.15819547

>>15819485
that would mess with their revenue and force those affected to take serious actions

>> No.15819555
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15819555

Fucking lol

>> No.15819561

>>15819440
Yeah if coco was still here, she can do a live experiment during her asacoco or meme review. All she had to do open a poll and encourage all her viewers to vote and the obvious culling should be obvious then the topic would automatically trend on Twitter.

>> No.15819567

>>15819493
anon thats either a bug or bots

>> No.15819570
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15819570

Miko's waiting room peak was 11,223

>> No.15819571

Miko just got hit with one of the more extreme culls I've seen.

11k to 1k

Holy fuck

>> No.15819575

< * MAKE YOUR BETS HERE *
> * MAKE YOUR BETS HERE *

FIRST HOLO GIRL TO BREAK RANK AND DO A TWITCH SCHEDULED REGULAR STREAM TO TEST THE WATERS

>1) Pekora
>2) Miko
>3) Nene
>4) Gura
>5) Ame
>6) Calli
>7) Some other JP girl
>8) Some other EN girl

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https://youtu.be/RU0W2505NXk
qpi is dead

>> No.15819577
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15819577

Flare..........

>> No.15819583

>>15819555
>90% cull
Jesas it's getting worse by the hour. By this time tommorrow the Holos will all be 2 views.

>> No.15819586

DO NOT LOOK AT FLARE'S NUMBERS

>> No.15819592

Holobots getting culled lmao

>> No.15819602
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15819602

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
this has to be the record in steepness, pretty sure this is a 89 degree line

>> No.15819604

>holojp getting 90% cull from their waiting numbers to their live numbers
i wanna see them doing poll right after their greeting

>> No.15819607

>>15819571
See >>15819555

>> No.15819614

FUBUKI MADE 5K BROS SHE DID IT

>> No.15819617 [DELETED] 

>>15819577
3 digits views will be the new standard.

>> No.15819628

Can anyone tell youtube about this account?
They actually steal account and use bots to inflate the live viewers number
And youtube doesn't do shit against it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAuJ6Q5_20c

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>>15819398
>18 509 bots

Real numbers is 11k
Welcome to reality

>> No.15819633

>>15819576
NOT MY GYARU NOOOOOOO

>> No.15819643

>>15819602
Mikkorone 24 must've flagged a lot of viewers

>> No.15819649
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>>15819586
Dear fucking God

>> No.15819651

Subarru and her buff game 8k.....

>> No.15819652

Anons... In the future we could get a sub 10k gold or least a medal on a slow day

>> No.15819655

Can't believe Ado is taking the Gold today

>> No.15819658

>Susan reset the number now that there's a potential lockdown happening again
it's like playing new game+

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>> No.15819672

>ADO 23K WATCHING
KNEEL!!!!!!

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>>15819649

>> No.15819689

>>15819575
Pekora 100 percent, especially if this gets worse in the next 24 hours.

>> No.15819693
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15819693

>Flares CCV is still under 300 7 minutes into her stream

>> No.15819694

>>15819583
Akirose might become a 2 views chuuba.

>> No.15819699

What is Susan's endgame?

>> No.15819698

>>15819658
aigh't, let's speedrun this shit

>> No.15819702

think one of these girls are having a panic attack from ccv cull?

>> No.15819703

>>15819602
why did they leave the streams all of a sudden bros? do they hate vtubers that much?

>> No.15819711

>>15819674
kapu kapu...

>> No.15819715

>>15819632
Gwelu past Kanata.

>> No.15819718

>>15819586
Which Holo waiting room will go straight to zero first. We should start placing bets.

>> No.15819721
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15819721

Flare...

>> No.15819724

>>15819699
make things "competitive" again

>> No.15819725
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15819725

My Ririsya..

>> No.15819728

>>15819703
I just like the flash card they show in the first 3 seconds of the stream, leave a like and leave

>> No.15819729

>>15819672
maybe we should numberfag utaites, this the future now

>> No.15819735

Youtube will hide 90% of the viewers but they won't stop the bot spam in Koyori's chat.

>> No.15819736

Someone please give Ado a Live2D and a decent microphone.

>> No.15819750

>>15819628
Original owner already tweeted about it but jesus ripple.

>> No.15819761

>>15819736
Oh gods yea I keep forgetting how bad her home mic is for these streams, its horrid.

>> No.15819766

>>15819736
>not # related
>not vtuber related
fuck off

>> No.15819765

2view fags, you better reassure your oshi that this is just a bug. people are not leaving them. you need to save them!

>> No.15819772

>>15819699
Saving YouTube from anime

>> No.15819776

>>15819736
If she becomes a Vtuber Susan might start going after her

>> No.15819780

>>15819721
What's her peak waiting room?

>> No.15819781

Ado's chat speed is the same as FBK's

>> No.15819787

>>15819725
snek...

>> No.15819788

>>15819694
she got 1.2k earlier with ark

>> No.15819802

>>15819725
Fortunately she's started branching out to Twitch. Actually, she might make a good case study for all this

>> No.15819805
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Strongest gen vs side branch
Please someone save my brown wife

>> No.15819820
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15819820

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT
>MATOME LADS ARE GETTING INFO FROM HERE TOO

LOOK COOL GUYS! YOU'RE ON TV!

>> No.15819823

>>15819725
mori's pet...

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>> No.15819831

>>15819766
>started streaming since her album release
>uses only anime avatars
What's stopping her from being considered one now?

>> No.15819841

>>15819702
Doubt it. I'm certain that Hololive/Cover is aware that there is an issue with CCV not properly reporting everything. Between the polls that some members have done and the unnatural 'views' after a stream is finished (compared to the CCV during said stream) it's impossible not to know. Which means the talents also know. They're probably told just to stream like normal and ignore it for now while they get in contact with Youtube to see what's going on.

It's not like their fans are gone, they're still there. They're just not being counted.

>> No.15819845
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15819845

>>15819674
jesas!

>> No.15819844

>>15819820
yh we know

>> No.15819851

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
TASUKETE NIGGERMAN

>> No.15819854

>>15819820
/#/ got that pic from 5ch in the first place.

>> No.15819859
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15819859

I hate bots and people who watch the stream from 10 devices, winding up statistics.

A year ago, I did it with HoloEN, now with all Vtubers.

Only real views!

>> No.15819862

>>15819735
their hyperadvanced bot catching AI can't figure out that the chinese bots that appear wherever Fubuki goes only ever type four words at a time with initial caps either

>> No.15819869

>>15819805
You should be comparing to Iofi for more fun.

>> No.15819881

>>15819841
>It's not like their fans are gone, they're still there.
Not for long anon. This will create a reverse halo effect if they don't take care of it soon.

>> No.15819883

>>15819781
>not a single member, all grays

Ado.....

>> No.15819886

it's getting worse somehow

>> No.15819888

Youtube is fucking disgusting. I'd rather triple buying chuuber's goods instead of spending a single penny for superchat from now on.

>> No.15819890

>>15819859
Susan please, I gave you my student ID to get cheaper premium...

>> No.15819910

>>15819845
>Mel is unironically blowing Flare the fuck out with 500 views to 371
I want off this ride

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15819912

>>15817836
>>15818053
>>15818166

>> No.15819919

We're going to be seeing zero views soon won't we?

>> No.15819922
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15819922

>Hide dislikes
>Obscure CCV
>You are here*
>Hide views
>Make superchats only colors with no numbers
>Turn off comments
>Make adds not give any money to the content creator
>Become one with the tube

>> No.15819926

>>15819888
I went and paid for both days of Holofes just yesterday after getting so disgusted at the number hiding.

>> No.15819951

Bros, maybe we need some internal pressure too. Have someone tag youtube gaming or that youtube gaming ceo? I heard he's active on twitter

>> No.15819953

>>15819910
look at the number of likes. only 1/6th's of Mel viewers are being reflected on the CCV.

>> No.15819964

>>15819881
As long as word is sufficiently spread about Youtube numbers being fake the effect won't be that strong, especially amongst the core fandom that counts for sponsorship/merch/SCs

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WAMY!!!!

>> No.15819967

>>15819576
172 views.....

>> No.15819972

>>15819823
>pet
What?

>> No.15819977

isn't it fucking hilarious that youtube thinks chink bots that spam Fubuki's chat are more human than (you)?

>> No.15819979

>>15819881
Oh, I don't doubt that something needs to be done, but for now the girls have to realize that the numbers they're seeing aren't the numbers they're supposed to have.

>> No.15819987

someone... please... do a poll... I need validation...

>> No.15819986

>>15819912
idk what you people are on about, looks normal to me.

>> No.15819994

I'm suppose to believe Suisei is a 4k streamer now.

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>>15819912
>Mark of Watamage
I told you retards you shouldn't trust wicked witches

>> No.15820014

>>15819994
She can drop even lower, just wait.

>> No.15820021

FUBUKI SAVE US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.15820028

>>15819994
I'm supposed to believe Botan is 3k

>> No.15820031

>>15819977
>Haachama is reviving the chinks because of this

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>>15819922
>MFW

>> No.15820042

>>15819994
Sooner or later you will RIKE 4k, because it's going down even further.

>> No.15820041

>>15819977
Well, big tech does love china

>> No.15820048

>20 mins in Flare can't break past 400 views
Holy fuck. This is like 10x worse than the numbers AIDS at the start of the day. We've gone from a 30% cull to over 90%

>> No.15820051

>>15819994
nigga you are supposed to belive lamy is a sub1k straemer now

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>>15820031

>> No.15820060
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>>15819922
not like this...

>> No.15820070

>>15819912
What does this imply besides a curse? Youtube have a specific cull pattern?

>> No.15820071

>>15819979
I really doubt there's a single culled chuuba who doesn't realize these numbers are bullshit.

>> No.15820079

>>15820048
Her getting ~3k for an debuff game would be normal, 300 is definitely way weird.

>> No.15820083

So the more you stream, the more views you lose? Is the meta to only have big event streams now and nothing else?

>> No.15820094

>>15820048
MORE
FASTER
UNTIL ALL OF HOLOLIVE ARE SUB 5k.
UNTIL THERE ARE NO LIVE VIEWERS BUT THE POLLS READ 1000% ENGAGEMENT.
UNTIL THE END.
OF.
NUMBERS!

>> No.15820097

>>15819922
You're going to eat the bugs anon and you will like it!

>> No.15820098

>>15820051
I actually don't think any JP gen past gen 4 has gotten below 1k average prior to this "feature"

>> No.15820102

>>15820048
What about Iofi, at 550 viewers right now

>> No.15820106
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15820106

my sultan ;;
his precious numbers, shattered ;;

>> No.15820115

Maybe the horse shit isn't intentional. Maybe they meant to implement another bot mitigation but the third worlders they hired to implement the features fucked it up. There is no way this is completely intentional, no feature spreads like a virus.

>> No.15820118

IOFI MOGGED FLARE

>> No.15820123

>>15820031
Holy shit, imagine if she's actually cultivating chink antis for this exact same reason...

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>>15819922
sometimes I wonder whose ass did Susan lick to get her job?

>> No.15820130

>>15819699
Something something balanced as all things should be.

>> No.15820140

Edengumi bois only 1.5k, yea they are culled too. This is like covid but for chuubas and it is slowly affecting everyone.

>> No.15820141

>>15820070
More like a bug or bot getting out of hand just like the subscription bug in 2016

>> No.15820142

reminder to send complaints to teamyoutube if you can

>> No.15820147

>>15820083
Ayame got hit aswell anon

>> No.15820151

>>15820106
Oh fuck!

>> No.15820154

>>15820094
Who will be the first to stream to 0 viewers, post a poll, and reach the coveted ∞% poll engagement?

>> No.15820159

>>15820102
Unironically, her low streaming frequency and constant overlaps with events may have earned her an audience that watchers 'ONLY' her, and other things on YT, so she might be heavily insulated from this nonsense for now.

>> No.15820164

>>15820083
Nah Gwelu is sitting steady at 11.5k viewers.

>> No.15820166

Is this what happened to myth last year? They didn't seem to be affected that much from christmas. I've never seen a myth stream from then up to now where the peak ccv is lower than the max waiting room count

>> No.15820167

>>15820115
Obviously it's not fucking intentional. This is just embarrassing for YouTube and WILL make streamers leave the platform.

>> No.15820179

>>15819922
as long as they don't break the dvr script i can live with it

>> No.15820180

>>15820118
and ollie

>> No.15820182

Oh by the way as a CCV botter business is absolutely BOOMING now. My farm got 20x the usual amount of applications today and the day isn't even over yet. I'm upping my prices soon.

>> No.15820183

>it actually fucking spreads like a virus

>> No.15820190

I have constructed my counter attack against this! I shall just open up their stream on a new, random account and just let it sit there without interaction to add to their CCV. This is apparently how they want this to work.

>> No.15820191

>>15820106
It get worse day by day bois.

>> No.15820196

>>15820083
Some people also think that the more insular vtubers have less damage compared to vtubers that collab alot.

>> No.15820200

I need the numbers to go even lower so that even normies will raise an eyebrow

>> No.15820202

>>15820140
This isn't 'slow' anon.
Slow would be having this happen over the course of a month. This is unironically, numbers-covid fast.

>> No.15820205

>>15820164
HE HAD A WIATING ROOM OF 11K

>> No.15820203

>>15820166
last year it was a fixed thing, this 2022 stuff is literally spreading in realtime

>> No.15820208

Can't believe Flare was a dirty bot user, never trust these fucking dark elves i tell you

>> No.15820211

>>15820115
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence.
This is probably YouTube's way of "helping" fight the chinese spam bots from earlier in the year

>> No.15820225

>>15820167
The only streamers they care about are the ones they poached from Twitch and they have golden handcuffs and can't leave

>> No.15820235
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This should be the new /#/ - numbers logo

>> No.15820238

How can youtube argue this one?
They reduce viewers by 50-90%, but leave likes, live chat, polls, and views the same.
Nobody can justify that as making sense.

>> No.15820242

>>15820147
Yeah, but she streamed Mario Kart like an idiot. She should only stream if she's got merch to plug or a milestone to celebrate.

>> No.15820244

Friend 9k!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.15820245

>>15820166
JPs also got hit last year to a lesser extent and now pretty much every chuuba aside from some lucky bastards in .Live and manjien are getting culled

>> No.15820247

>>15820208
I thought Flare is a "huwite" elf

>> No.15820251

>>15820166
Different thing, what happened to Myth could be reasonably explained away as adblock users being shut out. This seems to be far worse, it'd be as if Kiara dropped from 8k streams to 1k overnight.

>> No.15820258

>>15820203
Myth seems to be unaffected? Their peak ccv is still higher than the waiting room count

>> No.15820259

>>15820205
Yeah and other streamers never recovered the waiting room number.

>> No.15820261

>>15820235
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
NOT THE NIKE LOGO

>> No.15820264

>>15820225
Obviously untrue

>> No.15820266
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>>15820235
this graph is going to give me nightmares

>> No.15820269

>>15820211
I hope they roll it back. This is disgraceful.

>> No.15820273

>>15820196
It's not necessarily about collabing, just sharing audiences, which is why holo took the damage in one big swoop.

>> No.15820277

>>15820154
At this rate? Mel, Aki, Roboco all stand a pretty good chance, or Flare if she continues playing this Kusoge.

>> No.15820280
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GO FUBUKI GO REACH 10K

>> No.15820282

>Miko minecraft stream
>5k viewers
What happened

>> No.15820287

>>15820235
make the incline more curvy stall anon.

>> No.15820301

>>15820083
It's viewers being flagged. The only reason it correlates to streaming more is because more of a vtubers fans will get flagged if they stream more. It also correlates to how much overlap the vtubers fans have with other vtubers. Flare has a lot of overlap with other 3rd Gen members so a lot of her fans have been turned into ghosts.

Streaming less won't save them from the cull, when their fans go and chat in other streams they catch the numbers AIDS anyway

>> No.15820303
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>>15820280
kek, fubuki is abusing chink bots

>> No.15820307

>>15820282
Ai Uehara debuff

>> No.15820314

>>15819859
"YouTube was just like most platforms. Too many Vtubers, not enough to go around. And when we faced oversaturation, I offered a solution.”

>> No.15820316

>>15820282
from 15k to 5k
then you have flare
from 4k to 400

>> No.15820315

>>15820282
Wouldn't that have been 20k+ last year?

>> No.15820317

>>15820115
Anon, it’s absurdly easy to imagine a scenario where this is 100% the result of an intentional change. Here is a one sentence order from YouTube management to thr engineering team that could result in something just as extreme:

>use the same flag used to cull an user from the subscriber count to cull him from the live viewer counter

That’s it. It’s likely not a bug but a boneheaded decision like that (but not necessarily that)

>> No.15820319

Mori just started a twitter space, I'm curious how many views she'll get

>> No.15820320

>>15820251
Yeah but I've yet seen a single myth stream where the peak ccv is lower than the number of people in the waiting room.

>> No.15820322

Someone please save Lamy......she is getting lofi numbers...

>> No.15820327

>>15820202
It's like AIDs at an anal sex party.

>> No.15820340

>>15820280
Who knows FBK would be Pekora and Gura tier again?

>> No.15820347

When will numbers rabbit decide to try out twitch again? Miko should too.

>> No.15820352

>>15820235
kek

>> No.15820354

>>15820282
I'm betting Nijiniggers paid youtube to sabatoge Hololive.

>> No.15820372

miko MC lowered than movie watchalong on twitch...
I bet today's gold will be her rock paper scissor poll if she does it

>> No.15820371

>>15820282
Good enough for me

>> No.15820373
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15820373

Have a meme in these trying times.

>> No.15820381

>>15820182
I could actually see this being true. Info from 4chan finds its way to places, and the knowledge that unlogged, INCOGNITO windows = view is hilariously easy to bot CCV with.
>>15820183
It seems like some idiot machine-learning gone wrong case study if that's ACTUALLY what's happening. I can see it being the case too, techies love 'machine learning AI', except that shit is only ever as good as the data given and the robustness of the base code. Both which I don't fucking trust Google to get right in this day and age.

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>>15820373

>> No.15820397

>>15820320
There's a randomness factor to it since not even all streams from the same channel have the same speed of waiting room recovery, it's possible Myth have just lucked out so far

>> No.15820409

>>15820322
https://i.imgur.com/RxC8IKb
https://imgur.com/JwWzdey

Predicted by tako

>> No.15820411
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15820411

someone, please, think in versen...

>> No.15820416

I'm gonna bet Cover and Anykara are gonna go towards twitch meta

>> No.15820422

>>15820314
"It was. And it was beautiful. Youtube was like most streaming sites. Too many bot views, not enough streams to go around. And when we faced extinction, I offered a solution."
"Genocide?"
"But at random, dispassionate, fair to rich and poor alike. They called me a madman, and what I predicted came to pass."

>> No.15820429

4k mori on twitter, did she announce this earlier?

>> No.15820430

>>15820354
We should pay Youtube to sabotage them back, it's only fair

>> No.15820434

Honestly I think this is the most fun these number threads have ever been

>> No.15820460

>>15820429
No

>> No.15820461

>>15820429
No, it came out of nowhere and is also her first time doing one.

>> No.15820462

Mel is beating flare.....

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>>15820429
THIS IS THE NEW META

>> No.15820476

The waters of the Anykara Empire and Kingdom of Cover was poisoned by a well know witch, Susanjak. Their army suffered and both sides asked for a cease fire.

>> No.15820483

>>15820434
Same desu, its a mixture of despair but at the same time beautiful happenings. Who knew people will be fighting for 10k now after the extreme numberrot in December.

>> No.15820507

>>15820434
Second funniest for me. Funniest was the week of King slippage

>> No.15820509

Race to the bottom, I hope all chuubas become 2views by next month so normies actually give a shit

>> No.15820511

>>15820472
>#BLM
no i dont think i will

>> No.15820514

Nijibros what's going on ON the other side?

>> No.15820515

>>15820320
>Yeah but I've yet seen a single myth stream where the peak ccv is lower than the number of people in the waiting room.
Didn't that happen with IRyS yesterday?

>> No.15820524

>>15820476
it's like that time when the CCP teamed up with KMT to fight against Japan during WW2 KEK

>> No.15820523

>>15820460
>>15820461
And youtube's expects me to believe that Mori only averaged 5k~ on a scheduled jk endurance stream?

>> No.15820525

>>15820434
1. Mel and Gura (Reflect) denying Kuzuha any victory
2. The discovery of Namibia
3. This

Top 3 most fun

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wamy...

>> No.15820546

>>15820472
Embarrassing...only 4k for the first twitter space? even the rat twitter space got better numbers kek

>> No.15820547

>>15820515
nevermind, I read 'Myth' as HoloEN

>> No.15820548

>>15820511
For some reason verified names will always show up at the top of these twitter space lists (after people you follow), so it's inevitable to get these types.

>> No.15820557

>>15820434
same. but i'm also feeling sad what current numbers looks like

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>>15820514
plateau at 8k just after escaping the wait room

>> No.15820570

>30 mins in Flare still hovering at 450 views
So that's it? The algo isn't even going to keep counting and letting in the rest of the viewers?

>> No.15820573

>>15820525
It's a if the number's thread goes through a new arc evry month

>> No.15820578

>>15820515
And today. She had a 5.5k waiting room and topped out at 3.9k.

>> No.15820579

>>15820483
Susan found the cure for numberrot...

>> No.15820582

>>15820434
Same, this feels like a story arc, other happening were too short.

>> No.15820585

Fubuki is slowly crawling to 10k. will she make it before plateauing?

>> No.15820586

this is actually affecting my mental and i don't know how to leave and stop caring, what do i do

>> No.15820589

>>15820434
Catastrophes are always the most entertaining. Amegeddon, Ollie's yab, Festival hands.

>> No.15820595

>>15820546
Wasn't that right after her stream kept crashing so she switched?

>> No.15820598

>>15820514
Not one but: Kanae sub 3k for the first time, Kuzuha sub 10k for the second time (both after 25 Dec), it’s ogre.

Next Toya stream will be the wake up call

>> No.15820600

>>15820434
>Honestly I think this is the most fun these number threads have ever been
It's because every fanbase is united for once.

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>> No.15820611

>>15820514
It's basically what's happening to Hololive except a day or so delayed, so look forward to Kuzuha streaming Apex to "3000" people soon

>> No.15820614

>>15820434
I've never seen a day where this thread cared so little about the gold.

>> No.15820618
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4.7k on Mori's zatsudan

>> No.15820629
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>>15820586
Unironically same, I think we are in too deep

>> No.15820630

>>15820251
>This seems to be far worse, it'd be as if Kiara dropped from 8k streams to 1k overnight.
That's quite the extreme overstatement, they aren't getting cut by that much.
However it is interesting to note, that even when Kiara's entire channel was shadowbanned she never dropped beneath 2k.

>> No.15820632

>>15820606
holy shit it just hard capped it

>> No.15820633

>>15820525
If you're newfag to /#/ then yes but coco graduation days were better

>> No.15820637

>>15820546
I have no idea what a twitter space even is and I don’t think I’m alone. Especially with no announcement or schedule at 8 am est on a workday that a stack of debuffs

>> No.15820647

>>15820606
Clearing his waiting room by 1k is an achievement.

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>>15820235

>> No.15820650

>>15820618
EN Twitter Space Gold secured, nice

>> No.15820652

>>15820611
After all that e celeb leeching. Fuck susan.

>> No.15820676

>>15820649
kek nice

>> No.15820679

Has anyone recorded numbers for previous twitter spaces? I vaguely remember seeing Bae's peak around 2.4

>> No.15820687

>>15819660
hi Lex

>> No.15820686

>>15820546
The rat is also pure sex

>> No.15820691

>>15820546
Councilfag stop being uppity, Bae just streamed today too with midget number...

>> No.15820693

>>15820633
it was just a bunch of retards arguing over whether the stream would break 200k for a whole month

and then it peaked at nearly 500k

and now that record is even less likely to ever be broken

>> No.15820699

>>15820606
capped at 12k, try again next stream t. Susan

>> No.15820700

>>15820586
same

>> No.15820721

>>15820649
It should flatline under the R

>> No.15820722

>>15820586
kek, the size of the audience didn’t change, only the display number.

Ever accidentally changed your phone language to “Polish” or “Vietnamese” and had a hard time navigating the menus (by muscle memory) in a language you don’t understand to change it back?

This is the same, except with CCV and it’s for good.
Enjoy your phone, it’s the same as before but you’ll have to learn a new language to operate it

>> No.15820730
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15820730

Indies unaffected? This is what she normally gets.

>> No.15820742

>>15820630
Anon, there are two separate streams in this thread that dropped literally 90% from the waiting room

>> No.15820747

Which holos has the most isolated fanbase from Hololive Core Box pushing?
I think they are the most unaffected like Iofi & maybe Gura.

>> No.15820751

>>15820586
Embrace the madness.
Accept that this is the future, and if somehow, by some minor miracle, Youtube not only reverts this but unflags everyone affected, that you can shitpost "My Oshi inclined by X%!".

>> No.15820754

>>15820676
>nice
Nike

>> No.15820755

>>15820693
I still remember the guy who was saying it had no shot of beating Lulu's graduation because of twitter likes.

>> No.15820763

how the fuck is it getting worse?

>> No.15820766

>>15820586
Just be glad you aren't that one anon that can't get erect without seeing a 30k ccv

>> No.15820767

>>15820570
I'm not surprised if the graph after the waiting room falling down show the growth of tourists only

>> No.15820770

>>15820630
Flare not breaking 1k on any game stream actually is that bad.

>> No.15820776

Gwelu please go call out Susan for this bullshit just like you did to Niji management

>> No.15820780
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15820780

bros, I think it's already on Hayato too...

>> No.15820781

>>15820679
Wagahai has been pretty high on her spaces and she does them fairly often.

>> No.15820792

>>15820747 me
Actually nvm... Indies are affected too

>> No.15820793

>>15820730
It depends. Not all indies have escaped unscathed, and even VSPO got slapped hard. Hilariously, .LIVE has managed to escape the effects thus far, but who knows how long THAT will last.

>> No.15820794

>>15820586
Look numberfagging just shitposts and fun but I actually do want my oshi to succeed and this is fucking bullshit. Even worse is from a faceless company like YT that will never acknowledge anything. I have to imagine Kiara is raging behind the scenes. Rightfully so

>> No.15820796

>>15820730
Not yet. Susan haven't found her yet. Youtube targeting all vtuber from japan.

>> No.15820799
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15820799

Finally, real numbers, without bots and faked views.
Now HoloEN, HoloJP and Niji on equal terms.
A year ago, everyone laughed at the supporters of the theory about the YouTube bug...

>> No.15820814

>mfw nijifags are used to mediocre numbers and are satisfied with their insane tourny turnouts

I guess holofags are taking this worse due to being exposed to constant high numbers.

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>>15820780
his prev. numbers

>> No.15820837

>>15820763
Whatever was youtube's intention this obviously wasn't it. The unstable, runaway effect is not something that was intended.

Honest, we need to protect the numbers. Stop liking, chatting, and watching. That will fix the numbers.

>> No.15820839

>>15820776
Niji isn't being culled though. They are just going through an authentic massive recline. All evidence points towards that being the case.

>> No.15820849

>>15820730
sooner or later she will also be infected with the CHUUBA VIRUS

>> No.15820854
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15820854

wew

>> No.15820860

>>15820839
you've been shitting out this theory massively but they've been inclining if we go by their large event streams and shit, if anything hololive is experiencing a massive decline cull or no cull.

>> No.15820862

>>15820817
>>15820780
Wait a bit. That's okay for 10 minutes.

>> No.15820869

>>15820793
>3 Weeks have passed
>Every top holo and Niji are 2views now
>Chieri still manages to maintain her 900 view median.
>.LIVE finally got their first gold since 2019

>> No.15820874
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15820874

remember how Luna's stream was stuck at 20k views for the whole duration of the stream?

>> No.15820875

>>15820814
This is Susan's cure for holofag numberrot

>> No.15820877

This is not a good day for hololive...Lamy and Flare numbers is worse than ID....not even 1k...even the face of hololive fbk barely get 10k...

>> No.15820882

>>15820839
>>15820860
It's bait

>> No.15820883

>>15820730
only if they share the holo/niji audiance
it's not the chuuba channel that's being culled, it's the viewers being marked as bot/spammy

>> No.15820884

>>15820837
NO.
ACCELERATE.
SPREAD IT TO THE FAR CORNERS OF THE LIVESTREAMS ON YT.
WE'RE BURNING THIS HOUSE DOWN!

>> No.15820891
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15820891

Mori 5k get
I kneel...

>> No.15820902

>>15820854
This is hilarious at this point, looking forward to a 2view wamy in 2-3 weeks time

>> No.15820903

>>15820799
>real numbers
When Gura will go to Japan for her 3D she will also be massively culled. Just saying bro.

>> No.15820908

>>15820763
If the AI flags new users based on what they already flagged, then it increases exponentially

>> No.15820920

>>15820854
this might actually crush wamy's spirit
fuck man

>> No.15820924

>>15820839
>>15820860
why are you retards posting bait on the one day there's actually something worthwhile to discuss about numbers

>> No.15820929

Our weekly top 50 gone as well...
https://twitter.com/zOBI8DN9d277dVV/status/1478298519371128833?t=yuyupR8BUia6g1Jhs7MHsw&s=19

>> No.15820942

>>15820780
Nah~ I don't think so

>> No.15820944

>>15820903
Stop feeding spicschizo

>> No.15820945
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>Mel's viewer to like ratio
Jesus

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is this what they mean with ratio'd on twitter?

>> No.15820956

>>15820837
Like. How do you know? They don’t give a shit about vtubers or what their fans think. They don’t fix it: the fuck is anyone going to do? I mean go to Twitch obviously but they never gave a damn about that in the past. They’ll write it off as a niche audience

>> No.15820967

negative views when?

>> No.15820970

>>15820903
Sounds like last samurai cope, Gura has been competing even with her numbers getting culled for the past year. Things are on an even playing field now.

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>>15820874
Youtube is enemy

>> No.15820971

>>15820854
the lowest numbers of her career

>> No.15820974

>>15820908
MACHINE LEARNING!
GONE WRONG!
I really hope someone, somewhere,is making a note of this and makes a case study for the perils of 'Machine Learning' left unattended.

>> No.15820975

Fbk 10kkkkkkkkkkkkk!

>> No.15820978

>>15820799
Enjoy your 20k Gura 3D reveal bro

>> No.15820983

>>15820799
Damn can't believe Gura was less popular than vshoujos...

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15820990

>>15820945
>>15820949

>> No.15820993

>>15820860
There are no massive waiting room culls on Niji streams and no massive disparity between CCV and likes. There is no cull on Niji streams. They are legitimately reclining.

>> No.15820997

>Fubuki surpassed 10k viewers
Based fox friend

>> No.15821001

>>15820874
>>15820969
see, this was taken when both were live, both started at the same time too
>>15815733

>> No.15821003

>>15820730
>This is what she normally gets.
Is this some kind of indie test for numberfags? Stella normally gets 800+

>> No.15821008

>>15820945
>>15820949
Viewbots culled, likebots exposed.
Sasuga Susan

>> No.15821013

>>15820956
I'm not saying they'll fix it, I'm saying that this probably wasn't the intended effect.

>> No.15821017
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
SUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

>> No.15821023

>>15820908
The shitty youtube bot will display 0 viewers soon enough.

>> No.15821027

>>15820945
All me with my mountain of rice cookers liking and immediately closing the stream

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>>15820929
it all comes tumbling down...

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15821035

>>15820970
>50-80% culls
>Things are on an even playing field now

>> No.15821036

>>15820993
LOL you’re so funny anon XD
This joke never gets old

>> No.15821039

>>15820730
everyone you post here will eventually be affected

>> No.15821040

>>15820929
there is a smaller channel who does the same, not jp, forgot the name

>> No.15821054

>>15821017
that's only 5k on jp prime hours

>> No.15821055

>Miko Minecraft
>7k

DYRBI

>> No.15821058

>>15820974
Irrelevant edge case. Go ahead and push to production. Who cares if some weeks get mad it won’t affect the bottom line.

>> No.15821075

>>15821017
150k -> 5k decline

>> No.15821085

>>15821055
how could you do this to miko
susan you bitch

>> No.15821087

When was the last time hololive collectively failed to break 30k on JP prime time? 2019?

>> No.15821088

>>15821055
Miko is getting off very lightly compared to Wamy and Flare.

>> No.15821089
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15821089

At least these numbers are consistent

>> No.15821092

>>15820874
Susan is ENEMY

>> No.15821096

>>15821040
holoboard or something like that
also, what's going on with this channel? hololyzer's cat died recently and they didn't LETS GOOOO

>> No.15821099

time to rename numbers /numb/

>> No.15821114

Reminder that youtube is fucking stupid and this is not the first time number related stuff got fucked by their system.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/youtube-users-see-fake-subscribers-disappear-following-bug-114115955.html
For newfags or people who didnt know about this bug back then people abused the living shit out of it to ruin huge channels like pewdepie and other content creator targetted by idubbz.

>> No.15821122

>>15820949
Wamy.... it's time to rev up those Yakuza connection...

>> No.15821124

>>15821058
Oh, I meant if this ends up somehow getting bad enough that it afflicts all livestreamers on YT. Right now? Yea, they could legit ignore it, but imagine if those livestreamers they poached from twitch start losing viewership in the 25-30% range out of nowhere.

>> No.15821129

>>15821089
These numbers don't update often enough. I need that sweet live viewership and YT has robbed me of it. Maybe I'll watch indies on Twitch instead for that fix.

>> No.15821130

>>15821017
>Roberu beating Lamy and Flare
Its ogre...

>> No.15821144

>>15821017
Literally everybody is a 2views

>> No.15821154

>>15821017
sorry who said holostars were a failure ???

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>>15818116

>> No.15821162

>>15820730
I am pretty sure she gets around 1k for karaoke, i don't watch her but she keeps popping out on my recommendation feed with 1k viewers pretty often.

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>>15820993
Sorry to break it to you but niji has been on an incline, but I wonder if this youtube bug will affect the numbers this year.

also it needs to be updated

>> No.15821167
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Lacunny demonetized

>> No.15821179

>>15821017
Roberu mogging your oshi

>> No.15821188

Mori Space trending at #4 on Twitter

>> No.15821194

>>15821167
Susan going all out today I see

>> No.15821199

>>15821055
>Minecraft
>Day after a massively successful show that got nearly 5 million views between both segments
Nah, its bullshit

>> No.15821200

>>15821167
oh dear god, they're actually, unironically going
> SHUT IT DOWN
aren't they?

>> No.15821204

>>15821167
now we're getting somewhere

>> No.15821205

>>15821167
Shit really is going to hell in a handbasket.

>> No.15821207

>>15821167
I like how this thread is a news thread aswell.

>> No.15821212

>>15821167
THE NEXT STAGE HAS STARTED

>> No.15821216

>>15821167
holy shit
this a war now?

>> No.15821221

>>15821017
everyone under Robel is a whore
Robel too

>> No.15821227

>>15820649
Numbers: Just Cull It

>> No.15821230
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>membership stopped
imagine being a content creator on youtube, fuckin nightmare

>> No.15821240

>>15821167
IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING BOIS TIME TO REV UP THE TWITCH MIGRATION

>> No.15821244

>>15821216
Just go to twitch. The only way to win against the Pajeets and unconcerned Susan is to not fight.

>> No.15821246

>>15821017
Homostars were the actual 10k streamers all along...

>> No.15821247

>Subaru zatsu
>3k viewers

>> No.15821253

>>15821167
WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.15821263

>>15821167
lapu didnt even stream for the last 3 days.......

>> No.15821265

I'm sure you guys summoned a curse with the intense numberfagging during christmas and new year. This is the price to pay

>> No.15821268

Will numbers thread join forces and finally fight as one? Will Susan even fix this horrendous display of numbers at all? Or is this truly the miserable faith of our chuubas' numbers?

Find out next time on numbers thread #

>> No.15821271

>>15821200
This is happening right after the Bogdanoffs die. Coincidence? I think not.

>> No.15821277

>>15821167
could this be related to her streaming on her roomate's channel?
I don't think she has done anything remotely close to being wrong

>> No.15821281

Fuck it, Cover. Move to Twitch now. They have the superior streaming platform.

>> No.15821285

>>15821207
Because people here are constantly reposting shit from hlg.

>>>/jp/38030157

>> No.15821286

dear lord, the holobronies are going to have a mental breakdown.

>> No.15821288

>>15821161
No one cares about your tourist events. All evidence points to Nijisanji reclining and I already posted why. They are not going through the cull symptoms and their numbers are still awful.

>> No.15821290

>>15821167
NO ANIME GIRLS ON MY PLATFORM
t. Susan

>> No.15821293

peko not streaming 2day?

>> No.15821295
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>> No.15821299

>>15818288
The VR new years event was definitely culled, check the threads the day after there were graphs of funky viewership for those streams

>> No.15821304
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15821304

Looking at Luna's numbers of CCV vs Views, they seem to be trending similarly to Towa's which suggests that the CCV problem is in fact accelerating and Towa wasn't just fucked over harder arbitrarily. This problem is likely to continue getting worse without intervention.

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>>15821265
People wished for the numberrot to end so the monkey paw of Watamage granted them what they want.

>> No.15821323

>>15821167
>Youtubes rogue AI thinks Laplus entire userbase is bots and demonetizes her channel
Holy shit Youtube turn the fucking thing off

>> No.15821329

>>15821167
Does Susan know no mercy?

>> No.15821331

>>15821017
These are the true numbers - no bots, no multitabbing, no mobilefags

>> No.15821333

>>15821288
lmfao nice goalpost moving, have my final (You) while your shitty cunny gets demonitized

>> No.15821350

>>15821285
I also hear alot about nijis id normally not hear about aswell

>> No.15821360

>>15821017
Towa still the queen of the midgets...

>> No.15821366

>>15821277
It might actually be due to that short video she released.
Perhaps someone took offense they were 'copying their style' and decided to mass report her or something.

>> No.15821370

Next step is purging subs

>> No.15821373

SUSAN IS AWAKE, RUN BROS

>> No.15821375

>5.5k
Mori's guerilla twitter space surpassed the average viewers for her Jump King yesterday.

>> No.15821377

>>15821288
Damn sorry about your blindness and retardation hope it gets better soon

>> No.15821380

>>15821304
well yeah, Hololive is the king of box pushing, everyone is guaranteed to have high numbers consistently on events, no matter how shitty is the streamer is doing, this thing is snowballing

>> No.15821388

>>15821314
People made fun of Watame's 3D live numbers. Now nobody will ever reach those numbers

>> No.15821397

>>15821331
>no mobilefags
maybe a little too obvious with the bait by including this one, omit it next time

>> No.15821410

>>15821304
i hate it

>> No.15821416

>>15821295
Twitter giving it a bump as an incentive for them do it again

>> No.15821424
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>max of 6k+ viewers when even the waiting room didn't reach that
Holostats-kun!? Also the stream stuttered as Youtube fucked itself again resulting in that recent drop

>> No.15821428

>>15821397
mobilefag detected

>> No.15821445

Besides getting outright demotized, this must be hurting the channel's earnings as well, right? I mean, the accounts getting flagged as bot must not count towards the ad-revenue.

>> No.15821446

>>15821277
Not at all, she has probably the tamest roommate content. Just look at Noel and Mel and that's totally fine.

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>>15821017
(you)

>> No.15821476

The numbers just keep getting worse and worse, exponentially.

>> No.15821480

>>15821424
Secret real numbers

>> No.15821481

how are you feeling nijichads?

>> No.15821490

Are all Susan photos menacing?

>> No.15821497

https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1478364200934440960

>> No.15821498
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https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1478364200934440960
Lapu-chan...

>> No.15821511

>>15821446
nono, I don't mean to say that she did something bad there, just that it could be violating some kind of rule by doing so, as far as I know, roomates don't stream on twitch

>> No.15821520

>>15821481
Great seeing hololive literally imploding.

>> No.15821521

AHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHA

>> No.15821541

>>15821481
I feel like shit. I know it’s gonna hit my oshis harder soon

>> No.15821551

>kuzuha pokemon
>https://youtu.be/m5Bt04uT03k
It should be 30k at least but lets see

>> No.15821552

>>15821167
lapoor...my poor, poor lapoor...

>> No.15821554
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inclined !!!

>> No.15821561

>>15821498
>>15821497
oof

>> No.15821566

Stop biting obvious baits.

>> No.15821569

>>15821498
this really is 2019 all over again, holos losing monetization too rumao, the next step is Coco setting up streamlabs temporarily

>> No.15821571

Mori 6.2k

>> No.15821577

A lot of kusa in miko chat suddenly views goes down???

>> No.15821578

>>15821541
Nijisanji isn't being culled though. They are actually reclining.

>> No.15821597

>>15821188
Holo space always trends because people use the tag as if it were a stream chat.

>> No.15821599

the funny thing is, the nijiEN branch has shifted towards streamlabs and TTS, it's working out for them in a greatway and susan isn't getting a cent.

SUSAN HATE

>> No.15821613

>>15821277
Anon Youtube won't know and won't care about her roommate.

>> No.15821619

>>15821577
>YT likes to keep the bots using bandwidth in video and chat instead of outright removing them

>> No.15821630

>>15821577
all bots

>> No.15821649
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15821649

On top is the screen I took 5 days ago, bottom is today's, playing the same game. Some variance could be from the natural loss of interest in the game, but the culling is most likely getting worse by the day.

>> No.15821668

>>15821578
Reclining to Hololive level.

>> No.15821676

>>15821649
It's getting worse by the hour actually.

>> No.15821680

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wdxargbj2U

>> No.15821684

>>15820235
The "V" of "Vtuber"
Or maybe >we should call it an "L"?

>> No.15821724

>>15821167
Get fucked. This is what she gets for juggling two accounts and using hololive to boost her roommate.

>> No.15821729

I wonder if the new cull isn't related to spam... but rather you're only counted once. An account can only be counted once, to any stream, at any given time. So, say, if you open up Fubuki's Phasmophobia stream and sit in there. You'll be counted towards her. But you won't be counted towards the CCV of anyone else.

It would explain a lot of the numbers.

The popular JP members are still getting, if not the same, close to the same amount they were. It's not a massive cull but it is there. But the less popular ones are being destroyed because they've always been 2nd monitor candidates. Super chat streams too are rarely main monitor stuff so it would explain their massive tanking as well. If the user has ANY other stream, even say a lofi music stream, any future streams they open don't count them.

It would explain why those whose fan bases don't overlap very much with the core audience are the least affected. Hololive is notorious for multi-stream drifting. That may be punishing people now. Only the 'first' stream you open up counts.

Now, this doesn't exclude the possibility of there being additional reasons for the culling. Ad blockers, being marked as a bot for spamming, etc., etc.,. but it would account for a lot. We know the 'total viewer count' for Hololive has always been padded due to our tendency to Mutli-stream drift everything.

>> No.15821743

>>15821481
Enjoying my niji chubba singing to 600 people while holobronies have a meltdown over slightly low numbers than usual

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>>15821167
That's like the 4th one in the last 2 weeks,
Should start back up in a few hours.

>> No.15821752

>>15821040
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy5LRYgjqycofouDpL1D9OQ

>> No.15821767

Mori ended her twitter space
The peak was 6.4k

>> No.15821768

Ui mama.......

>> No.15821774

>>15821724
... Noel

>> No.15821790

>>15821749
What the fuck susan?

>> No.15821797

Okayu 4.1k waiting -> 700~ watching

Not as precipitous a drop as some others we've seen today.

>> No.15821799

>>15821680
at least post a vtuber cover of the song

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I'm afraid we have another Holocaust-tier situation in our hands

https://files.catbox.moe/v3gzav.mp4

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>>15821035
>50-80% culls
50-80% bots and user who watch stream on 10+ different devices?

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>>15821729
that already happened far before christmas

>> No.15821848

I didn't think it could get this bad. This is so comical I'm letting go. CCVs just don't matter.

>> No.15821850

>>15821749
god, i hope so. she's supposed to see her paycheck this month

>> No.15821872

>>15821554
>VTuber Reads Hate Comments
is a super trendy title.

Soundweebjay even got 600 viewers with
>The state of Western Vtubing
a while back, despite being a 2 view streamer

>> No.15821880

>>15821729
Why post this wall of text when you literally have no idea about anything? Just go read the archives.

>> No.15821882

>>15818489
strange. the streams with more people in the waiting room were affected more it seems

>> No.15821883

https://twitter.com/creativeTANAKA/status/1478332741636997125

>> No.15821887

>>15821167
You faggots thought it wasn't going to turn into a complete shitshow.
Imagine thinking youtube isn't retarded.

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the graphs look... extremely linear...
can a niji explain what happened to Ange in that square signal segment?

>> No.15821906

>>15821729
what the fuck is wrong with your head

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>>15820978
She will get over 200k.

>> No.15821930

>>15821883
these holobronies care this much about numbers and less about the chuba.

lul

>> No.15821944

>>15821880
No one has any idea about anything. That's why we're all brain storming at the moment. I'm tossing out a potential idea to explore.

I've been following this for awhile now, not reading everything, but most things.

>> No.15821950

>>15821883
Holy schizo

>> No.15821956

>>15821883
It's not getting enough traction.
I'll see how we can help

>> No.15821965

>>15821894
the flatlining looking extra flat today

>> No.15821997

>Roboco UNO collab will get Roboco Apex numbers

>> No.15822006

/numb/ goodbye

>> No.15822014

SUSAN YOU FUCKING BITCH

>> No.15822022

>>15821930
welp, i'm angry to be considered as a bot

>> No.15822049

>>15821883
haha what the fuck, people like this exist? fucking schizo

>> No.15822077

>>15821997
Roboco APEX numbers are 3 digits now anon. Get up to date with the new normal already.

>> No.15822081

>>15821894
>can a niji explain what happened to Ange in that square signal segment?
I'm not a nijifag but I can assume the square is just youtube tomfoolery.

>> No.15822099

>>15822014
She fights for the truth. HAIL TO SUSAN!

>> No.15822105

>>15821930
While I get where you're coming from, don't you think seeing unusually low numbers on their streams can be detrimental to a person's mental health?

>> No.15822117

Hey Numbuds.. What's up

>> No.15822119

>>15821883
where and when will he post the video? i want to listen to this schizo scream into the void

>> No.15822127

>>15821481
It is a great blessing. Numbers are the lifeblood of a holobrony, aka KPOP stan in vtuber form. Take that away and they have nothing while Niji fans can still enjoy the content no matter what the numbers are.

>> No.15822142

>numbers getting worse and worse
>haachama being a fucking idiot and la+ getting demonetized
i think im going to bed /#/, hope it's better when i wake up i guess

>> No.15822149

>>15822105
Hololivers are mentally sound people.

>> No.15822154

>>15822105
only if you're a fucking holofag who's used to seeing large numbers on a regular basis while nijifags are used to seeing average numbers and they mostly gather for collabs/events anyways.

i'd be more worried about the mental health of the holotalents since it's menhera central.

>> No.15822175

The other Holo songs tops channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy5LRYgjqycofouDpL1D9OQ

Did ones for covers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIw1kbDG-9o
and originals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOl3lGx25e4

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>>15822142
Don't worry anon, it will get a lot worse

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NUMBERS

>> No.15822200

How do you manage to make worse bait than the Pekoschizo and spicschizo?

>> No.15822217

Ui mama 5.4k views 10k votes lol.

>> No.15822229

>>15822217
Post the poll retard

>> No.15822231

ENTER

>> No.15822239

>>15822217
SCREEN CAP RETARD

>> No.15822245

Is there anything that can be done about this? Tweeting at the YouTube Twitter is just screaming into the void.

>> No.15822255

>>15822198
NijiENMales are fucking winning hard.

>> No.15822260

>>15821230
Did she paused her membership feature?

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>>15822198
I kneel

>> No.15822290

>>15822198
>CCV
Aaaaand it's worthless.

>> No.15822292

>>15822245
Focus on the premium account angle and hope it gets picked up by the mainstream media.

>> No.15822300

Is there a site that shows what the view count was just after a stream has ended?

>> No.15822301

>>15822260
Susan demonetized her channel

>> No.15822313

>>15822217
Shit too fast. She poll a couple of minutes.

>> No.15822317

>>15822245
Some anons are unironically trying to contact some anime inclined drama youtubers which is better than ranting on a mongolian basket weaving forum

>> No.15822331

>>15822290
>it's only worthless because nijis are winning

>> No.15822335

>>15822245
Cover or the talents actually contacting YouTube. Surprised no indie has, though I guess they might be seeing if the whole thing passes by itself.

>> No.15822334

>>15822245
you can also complain through send-feedback directly from youtube account options

>> No.15822341

>>15822287
No EN bronze for owlcucks

>> No.15822343

>>15822105
Some of the more influential talents in nijisanji are anti-numberfags (Mito, Kuzuha, Mayuzumi), so I guess the nijis won't be mentally affected as much. I still remember one of the really popular niji song ranking channel getting cancelled because it's promoting numberfag behavior in the fandom.

>> No.15822344

>>15822287
Isn't his number lower than usual? I believe he can reach 7-8k

>> No.15822360

Suisei and Haachama were able to ban Monetize within three weeks of the report. Personally, I tried to "No Money de Finish" Chloe. She was already audited, so it might have been too late to reflect her channel.

You can also ban monetizers from 0 months onwards, like the leader of N国 in Japan, also known as Tachibana.
Not only will everything be refunded, but commission hell awaits.

choco, noel and roommate are doing it again.
So we'll find out later.

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>>15822142
You will wake up to 3 digits being gold contender

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>>15821017
WINNING

>> No.15822371

>>15822344
15 min in, wait at least for the 30 mark

>> No.15822390

>>15822217
>muh votes
the most retarded cope
thinking that everyone who votes stays for 100% of the stream is absolutely idiotic
almost as bad as saying CCV = unique viewers

>> No.15822395

>>15822360
Is this Markov Chain?

>> No.15822397

>>15822287
IRyS only got 3.8k
Mori has the EN silver medal with 6.4k on Twitter

>> No.15822410

>>15822290
Its worthless because it should be a bigger number right? At least thats what this entire thread is pointing towards kek

>> No.15822424

>>15822198
Did he put up a waiting room? I am not seeing any cull at all, literally unaffected lol

>> No.15822428

>>15822397
the absolute state of today's rankings

>> No.15822439

So if a bunch of autists here have noticed, then we can be sure Cover themself has noticed as well, no?

Question is, will they do anything about it?

>> No.15822451

>>15822331
Out of the loop retard.
>>15822410
NijiEN males does not seem to be affected.

>> No.15822452

>>15822390
Of course ppl don't read right just click.

>> No.15822460

>>15822300
YouTube

>> No.15822462

>>15822390
Anon?

>> No.15822474

>>15822410
True. Niji males are actually getting 25% of their subscribers to watch their streamers. Pretty impressive stuff honestly.

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>hit 9k
>fucking suicide numbers again

>> No.15822495

All things considered, Okayu's views are pretty good right now

>> No.15822500

>en special olympics over broken ccv

>> No.15822508

>>15822451
How do you know that? You just get to pick and choose which channel is affected or not? The actual state of holobronies

>> No.15822518

>>15822390
How retarded are you? When you see 6k live viewers and 10k voters, it literally shows that the number of live viewers is wrong.

>> No.15822520

>>15822361
stop, I'll buy your fucking album

>> No.15822523

>>15822439
It'd probably be unprofessional to say anything publicly, at least this early. I'd imagine if this continues more girls will request Twitch accounts though.

>> No.15822534

>the only 10k+ stream right now is gachaman

>> No.15822535

>>15822439
Has a hololive girl cried on stream yet? No? Then nothing will be done

>> No.15822536

>>15822301
Poor chunny...her membership was her only saving grace and no mercy was given by Susan

>> No.15822543

https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1478370580990930944

La+ demonetization Twitterspace, this is going to get huge numbers

>> No.15822544

>>15822489
I don't think Kuzuha has any cull, youtube is just dying everytime he is close to reach 10k.

>> No.15822546

>>15822508
Feel free to post proof, retard
I don't have any sides here but if you think your stupidity can be tolerated you should think again

>> No.15822547

does anyone has the tags on the streams that are getting fucked the most?

>> No.15822568
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Izuru (Holostars) running a Twitter space for 600 people

>> No.15822577

>>15822489
nijibots...

>> No.15822581

>>15822489
9k cap lul

>> No.15822582

>>15822390
>join stream
>vote on poll
>like the stream
>leave instantly
Holoshitters will never understand

>> No.15822584

>>15822344
When no overlap. Right now he's sharing this 8k+ with Ike.

>> No.15822589

Did you fuckers break vrabi? It's not loading for me.

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Laplus Space
8.8k 5 min in

>> No.15822614

>>15822546
All Im saying is, based off of what we know, his numbers SHOULD be higher. You cant pick and choose who is affected by this no matter what side you are or arent on.

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>>15822543
8.8k rumao, this mogs EVERYONE LIVE right now

>> No.15822622

>>15822344
>>15822371
He's flatlining.

>> No.15822628

10k on lap space already, fuck youtube we're moving to twitter

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>> No.15822633

>Don't watch stream
>Know exactly when to vote
>Open stream, vote, left all within 1min
Retarded.

>> No.15822631

>>15822390
Ui Mama usually has 3 times more viewers than votes sooooooo

>> No.15822641

Stop biting the easy baits retards

>> No.15822642

>>15822543
More like she be getting those sweet2 pity supa for her next stream

>> No.15822645
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15822645

For the anon asking about twitter space numbers. Rising from here too.

>> No.15822655

>>15822582
The most retardest shit i ever read holly shit!

>> No.15822658
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15822658

uhhhhhh, Susan-chama?

>> No.15822663

stop replying to the schizotranny

>> No.15822664

New thread ready to be migrated to when this one dies.
>>15822530
>>15822530
>>15822530

>> No.15822667
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15822667

The saviorfag inside me has kicked in. I'm not leaving Lamy's stream but the thing is I don't even know if I'm counted to the views. This feels horrible. Fucking Susan...

>> No.15822673

>>15822621
MANJISANJI BROS??? HOW ARE WE LOSING TO HER DESPITE HOLOS GETTING CULLED HARDER THAN US????

>> No.15822674

>>15822439
Nene is definitely not just running these polls for shits and giggles when she was barely using them before, so yes Cover and Anycolor and all the small chubas definitely noticed by this point.

>> No.15822677

>>15822518
>projecting
of fucking course a poll that lasts for for a while will have more people than concurrent viewers
do you even know what concurrent fucking means?

>> No.15822679

>>15822645
Yeah this is going to be big, not exactly representative for the normal twitter space at all though.

>> No.15822680

>>15822390
Congratulations, anons in the thread are so mind-broken they can no longer recognize the simplest of baits/shitposting.
Here's a (you).

>> No.15822681

>>15821161
>only counting events
have you seen the numbers from normal streams anon?

>> No.15822683

>>15822658
Susan is raping King viewers

>> No.15822688

>>15822667
All holos should schedule a weekly Twitter space just to feel better about their numbers.

>> No.15822694

>people unironically still tribalfagging during these times.
It's like watching two people fight in a sinking ship

>> No.15822700

>>15822667
open incognito tab or just log out

>> No.15822702
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15822702

11k listening to laplus space

>> No.15822705

>>15822534
Interesting he has his usual phasmo numbers, one thing i notice is his chat is very civil like non spam type of chat.

>> No.15822714

>>15822543
>https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1478370580990930944
10k get

>> No.15822725

>>15822344
Another en guy is streaming too.

>> No.15822739

start opening two tabs with every stream you're watching, one on main account and one in a private window
since youtube thinks we're bots anyway, let's at least take the advantage of "being a bot".

>> No.15822743

>>15822702
and this is pretty much guaranteed to be JOPS only, imagine the REAL numbers they get when they are streaming

>> No.15822752

Twitter space has a chance to be the most viewed stream today

>> No.15822753

>>15822694
It's shitposters trying to start shit up, any real niji watcher either doesn't care for the numbers or recognizes something's wonky. That or the NijiEN newfags who only came along with the male wave. NijiJP gatekeeping is unironically a good thing.

>> No.15822761

>>15822633
Drive by tourists always know when the polls drop

>> No.15822772
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15822772

How long until kuzuha vs Mysta time loop?

>> No.15822780
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15822780

>>15822677
>for a while
>"just now"

>> No.15822783

12k get!
>>15822743
And unlike with youtube there's a bunch of additional "barriers of entry" for a twitter space.

>> No.15822786

>>15822702
>>15822714
>>15822543
spaces are full of bots
the real number is likely closer to ~5k

>> No.15822808

One question, can a youtuber pause their own membership feature manually?

>> No.15822825

>>15822808
She got demonetized anon

>> No.15822827
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15822827

Well, well, how the tables turn.

>> No.15822837

Streams over 10k (01.04.2022 JST)

Nijisanji 14,085
Gura 13,722
Luna 13,156
Gwelu 11,965
Kanata 11,646
Fubuki 10,293

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