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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt

Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.
Start creating, stop tweeting.

>> No.15708612

Reminder that the best advice and answer to most questions here is to just start streaming.

>> No.15709755

Has anything changed or do you still NEED an iphone for accurate face tracking for 3D models?

>> No.15709974

>>15709755
vtube studio and vroid you just need a webcam and that's it. Most vtubers run with that before they get a high quality rig and an iphone for accurate tracking.

>> No.15709986

>>15709755
you're fine to use a regular webcam with vroid, you don't need an iphone for it

>> No.15710016

>>15707909
You forgot to link the previous thread.

>> No.15710024

>>15699643
sounds good, looking forward to seeing you start

>> No.15712507

>>15709974
>vtube studio
Wasn't VSeeFace better? Did I miss something?

>> No.15712620

>>15708612
Also, having fun is more important than trying to make it

>> No.15714455

>>15712620
if you're only doing this as a hobby. if you actually want to do this to accomplish something more like build a portfolio to apply to hololive, just having fun isn't enough. you need to learn how to grow and develop your talents which is a completely different set of skills than just having fun.

>> No.15714859

>>15714455
I think what anon was trying to say is that if you don't enjoy streaming and only focus on making it, you'll end up hating yourself

>> No.15715488

Late Happy New Year, /asp/ies. Decided I’d finally dive into online content creation as I’ve always wanted to. Been singing while not minding the household members who’d overhear recently. And after 2 days straight of just working on my chuuba design, I finally finished. Feeling pretty proud as I’ve not used a tablet in years. It’s gonna be a good year, I’ll bet.

>> No.15715742

Been considering giving up on being a chuuba, how do i manager larp?

>> No.15715788

>>15715742
post your socials and start giving out actionable advice that's more useful than "make good content"

>> No.15715943

I want to learn more about the adoptables world.

What kind of pricing would I be looking to set an adoptable at, between the options of just a model without rigging and a rigged model? How often do aspiring vtubers actually go after adoptables instead of commissioning custom models? Is any adoptable I make more likely than not to NGMI?

>> No.15715992

>>15715943
price depends on your art skill but i've seen them go for $80-$100 for chibi adoptables up to $200+ for full body adoptables. they're very popular for vtweeters and i've never seen a vtuber adoptable ever debut or start streaming.

>> No.15716636

For those who are naturally less outwardly reactive, how do you make sure you don’t “forget” to react to something the entire time?

>> No.15716719

>>15716636
practice. it's always just practice. start building up the habit of talking your thoughts outloud in your everyday life. going to the kitchen? just say aloud "heading to the kitchen, gonna make a sandwich. wonder if we've got ham left, i think i might make a ham sandwich" you've gotta build that habit up from scratch and it's gonna take a while.

>> No.15716720

>>15715992
>i've never seen a vtuber adoptable ever debut or start streaming
This is 100% my fear. I'm fine with lowballing the price I would sell an adoptable at, but I hate the idea of putting all of that work into a design I like and would want to see out in the wild, only for it to gather dust in some corner of Twitter.

>> No.15716832

>>15716720
it's the hard truth of the vtubing community. most aren't looking to stream but rather just larp being an anime character on twitter or discord. vtuber models are just the next step from anime profile pics.

>> No.15716898

>>15716832
I wonder if specifically aiming for a fully rigged L2D and high quality art over the chibi or unrigged options might filter some of that out? Of course, it'd also raise the pricepoint into a range I'd imagine most vtubers would just want to commission a design of their own instead.

>> No.15716972

>>15716898
>it'd also raise the pricepoint into a range I'd imagine most vtubers would just want to commission a design of their own instead.
that's basically what happens. you can already see hundreds of premade and rigged live2d models on booth.pm and nizima and barely any of them sell.

>> No.15717293

>>15701490
wtf anon thank you

>> No.15718583

tell me in a single sentence why should i watch you. you can do that, right?

>> No.15719340

>>15712507
vtube studio is the defacto best program for vtubers now. It even beats Hololive and Niji's inhouse software for a good while now and it keeps getting better every patch.

>> No.15720128

Vtube Studio now includes VSeeFace for 3D .vrm models so you can use it for both Live2D and 3D. There's really no reason to use any other program.

>> No.15720377

>>15717293
shut up and lose ur next tft game already, love ur stream tho

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15721948

Am I all set to go? Sorry I really don't know anything about internet speeds this is just what my brother has going :0

>> No.15721989

>>15721948
You'll be fine, i have half your upload speed and get no problems

>> No.15722052

>>15721989
Oh, okay cool! Thank you ^^

>> No.15722163

>>15720128
>Vtube Studio now includes VSeeFace
What? And what happened to old VSeeFace?

On another topic, though, can you give jagged teeth to your Vroids or do you still need Unity?

>> No.15722424

anyone else get a weird crackling sound when streaming ? this is specifically only when I use my vtuber model

>> No.15722427

>>15722163
It doesn't include VSeeFace, it's still separate.
Just checked.

>> No.15722555

>>15722424
i would say that sounds like a mic issue but honestly i have no clue
depending on your tracking software it might be using your mic for lip sync etc. so maybe try messing with those settings or turning off your mic in your software?

>> No.15722790

>>15722424
Are you doing any digital audio processing? It might be a memory problem, I used to get crackling when I set my DAW's sample rate too high and ran it alongside other programs

>> No.15723687

>>15715742
leave this thread because nobody here has valid manager-level advice that isnt a product of fantasy and imagination

>> No.15723941

>>15722424
cpu possibly overloaded

>> No.15724012

>>15723687
Where should i go to get management skills?

>> No.15724218

>>15724012
you can probably research online how management and operations work, a lot of the basics would apply to most businesses and learning management for vtubers wouldn't be very different from any other service job, but you will also have to do a lot of research on the industry, asking questions and finding answers, and coming out with an educated knowledge base to start with

>> No.15724238

>>15724012
college

>> No.15728506

>>15724012
>management
what would these skills even look like?

>> No.15728576

>>15716720
Who cares, you still got paid

>> No.15728694

how do people go about getting mods?

>> No.15728727

>>15728694
mod the first few people that stick around for all your streams

>> No.15729238

>>15728576
If I wanted to do it for the money there's plenty of much better options out there.

>> No.15729381

>>15729238
If you don't want to do adoptables for fear they'll never stream, then your best bet is probably just doing normal commissions. The odds are a lot lower that they won't ever stream.

>> No.15734186
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15734186

How did you go about thinking of a visual concept for your chuuba?
Did you first pick lore and then decide on a design from there?
Just something you find cute? Or did you just leave it to the artist to decide?

>> No.15734825

>>15734186
anything with relatable human expressions
lore doesn't matter. design doesn't matter. just make sure the art style is good and visually appealing.
figure out if you're trying to be a chuuba or if you're just larping your personal OC.

>> No.15736479

>>15734186
I'm a former lorefag D&D player that spent a bunch of time on my lore, realized it doesn't matter, then ditched it all aside from the theming and "im a blah blah blah streaming to blah blah blah" for the crowd that cares. For my design, I picked traits from other characters or clothing I liked and put them on a reference sheet, game them to someone to design my char and they drew me a sketch from that and some description on what type of char I'm looking for. I had a slight edit here and there for them to make and then they drew it and that was that.

>> No.15740128

>welcome to my channel, i'm edgelord mcdarkness and i'm a 41,673 year old embodiment of the spirit of vengeance. i literally killed all your gods and fucked all your moms but now i just spend time playing Apex Legends in perma locked in Silver because i suck

>> No.15742102

>>15734186
It's universally agreed that having a face with recognizable expressions is the most important step as the first anon pointed out, but ignore the rest of what he said for a moment since it's really dismissive.
I had a really difficult time choosing a design when I was first figuring stuff out back in June, and simply going the way that anon said lead to me having a bit of a crisis where a design I thought was visually appealing and fit my voice didn't actually represent "me" very well, so I decided to take the route of actually making an OC for my own creative universe, and then adapting them to vtubing after the fact. The initial version had lore so I could get into the groove of designing them, but I discarded the lore after it was done, and in the end it's definitely a lot more spirited design and I got a lot more positive comments from people who knew about the first design. So in a way, I picked lore first and designed from there, but I did it with the goal of making a character where the lore was basically non-existent, because in the end it represented me much better than a raw, directionless design.

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15742260

slowly putting things together
design is becoming less garbage

>> No.15742319

>>15742260
I like what you are going for but I think you should switch the shirt colors or the hair colors. You have green + purple and red + black, its a confusing palette

>> No.15742341

>>15742260
i like the streaks in the hair but the color choice makes me want to say "thanks doc"

>> No.15742348

>>15742260
Looking good, will you drop links once you start?

>> No.15742430

>>15740128
this would unironically be kino

>> No.15742830

>>15740128
i actually think "skeletor but really bad at video games" would make for a funny schtick
like, all bones jones exists but he's actually good at video games and is more of a conman than a villain
someone claiming to be a lord of darkness but being hardstuck iron sounds kinda funny if they lean into it with the proper attitude

>> No.15743268

>>15742830
>if they lean into it with the proper attitude
you can say this about anything though. the problem is /asp/ies more often than not lack that attitude or the charisma to pull it off. so they lean heavily on the design and it just ends up cringe.

>> No.15743327

>>15740128
>Sense of humor
>Comedy lore
That will never ever happen

>> No.15744892

>>15742348
yeah i plan on it!
>>15742341
>>15742319
i'll be workin on the hair again tomorrow since i focused on getting the outfit done first lol

>> No.15745143

how important is posting your schedule while starting out? I'm only at like 20ish followers right now and I feel like posting a weekly is only useful when you have enough followers that keep up with you.

>> No.15745167

>>15745143
do it every week. any new follower that likes you will know when to tune in.

>> No.15745214

>>15745143
If it's beneficial when you have a large number of regulars, it's beneficial for the same reasons even when you have a small number of regulars.

You don't have to go overboard, a schedule can be as barebones as you want.

>> No.15745722

>>15745143
Posting and sticking to a schedule is as important for you as it is for your viewers.

>> No.15748511

>>15707909
guys i just got my character sheet and i really like but but i think it's kinda simple i was wonder if i can comission someone to give me some advice on the desing before i spend in an 2d avatar.

did skeb have something like that? or should i just dm some artist in twitter?

>> No.15748635

how you guys pick a name? i was just thinking about using some anagram from my current online name but i think i will stick with some variant of my online name but make it shorter

>> No.15748727

>>15748511
My knee jerk reaction would be that you've over thinking it and you should just get started. You'll likely have to commission a new design sheet if you are looking to make changes, since artists usually won't just add stuff to another artist's work.
>>15748635
Whatever combination you need to get it down to either 2 or 3 syllables. Then do a Google search to see what your competition will be if someone tried to search your name.

>> No.15749080

>>15748727
>over thinking
i think you are right i just going to make a few changes and start saving up money for a 2d or even a 3d model i think i'm going to be ready in a couple of months

>> No.15749468

>>15749080
Make a scuffed PNG and start now so that once you've saved up money, you're ready to hit the ground running when you have your fancy new model (and you know if you actually enjoy streaming).

>> No.15749705

>>15749468
i do actually like streaming but i'm going to scuff town and try to start something in this month

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15749813

Odds : I buy this model from this JP site for 10 bucks and start streaming Garry's Mod tomorrow
Evens : I keep dreaming

>> No.15750801

>>15749813
you better do it fucking freak

>> No.15750949

>>15712507
VSeeFace is for for VRM 3D models. It's not comparable to Vtube Studio that is exclusively for 2D models

>> No.15752215

Is anyone here actually thinking about applying to Hololive now that they have open auditions?

>> No.15752354

>>15752215
Seems like more of a /wvt/ question than an /asp/ one, way too many 2views here for it to be a reasonable goal right now, I'd imagine.

>> No.15753925

>>15710024
Thank you anon! I'll do my best!

>> No.15754805

>>15752215
i'll respond before going to bed
i'm a male and if starsEn does in fact become a real thing i do want to apply but right now i'm still working on building my portfolio. i'm basically dedicating 2022 to both my work and my streaming + content creation in general to give me something to work with. i feel like i have a nice enough personality to sell with other traits but i'm also keeping grounded in that even if i don't get in, then i'll be happy as a well off indie as well. i started streaming a month and a half ago and i really love it so it's something i want to keep doing honestly.

>> No.15755168

>>15754805
>i'm a male and if starsEn does in fact become a real thing i do want to apply
en stars might not be a thing until the end of this year and you plan to audition afterwards?

>> No.15755227

>>15755168
i plan on waiting a few months until i feel actually confident i'll have a shot so probably not till the end of the year. it'll depend on a lot of factors but i know for a damn fact i'm way too fresh and green to even stand a chance against others who might be applying. i don't mind getting into a possible wave 2 but these are all just hypotheticals and what ifs for the time being.

>> No.15755356

>>15752215
Didn't they always have open auditions?
I remember /vt/ freaking out over some of the people sending in their auditions just before HoloEN became a thing without appreciating that literally anyone could send anything.

>> No.15755372

>>15755356
>Didn't they always have open auditions?
no

>> No.15755395

How chuuni do you guys get when designing a character and backstory?
Do you go full anime and make a magical creature/hero/gimmick or do you guys just prefer to just make a more "normal" avatar and roll with it?

>> No.15755483

>>15755395
I think this is by far the least important thing in vtubing that way too many people wanting to be a vtuber seem obsessed over.

My favorite vtubers have all simply been great entertainers with good production value and a consistent theme, and have largely disregarded any kind of full-on "lore" or backstory because it's largely irrelevant to their core content or ability to entertain.

>> No.15755696

>>15755483
It's kind of tiring seeing this sort of dismissive attitude that doesn't fully address why super lore focus is bad and doesn't point out any good that can come from using that type of creative attitude properly, especially when the question is not even about using the lore as part of the content and is about using it as part of the design process, where it absolutely has merit.
The thing about using lore that's actually bad is using it as your main content, because anyone can do shitty garbage fantasy writing. Using it as part of designing your character on the other hand is very helpful for drawing out more inspirations and elements than a vague theme will, as is the process for designing any other character for any type of media. Obviously it's not the only thing that helps, but there's nothing wrong as long as people approach it in that way.

>> No.15755782

>>15755696
or. alternatively.

you're a fucking retard because viewers don't care about that shit when you're streaming modded skyrim to 0 viewers.

>> No.15755907

>>15755782
Yeah, I wasn't denying that, just saying it's fucking stupid that the mere mention of lore triggers people like you so hard when we're supposed to be dealing with a hobby that needs creativity to start out with.

>> No.15755956

Can anyone recommend a decent improv online course? Or at least a book on the fundamentals

>> No.15756071

>>15755907
>dealing with a hobby that needs creativity to start out with.
the creativity comes in the form of content that is going to be consumed by the viewer. and viewers don't care about your lore. ergo, viewerfaggots like you telling /asp/ies to work on their lore to "design" their character actually hurts them.

when they could be doing their stream reps like filling dead air, getting rid of uuuhmmms and uuuhhhhs, practicing how to speak clearly. they're sitting in their room chipping away at some necklace design that their OC's long lost mother lost in a war that was started by some political rival of the local king or some shit.

there are things /asp/ies can work on that will directly improve their streaming skills and things that will waste weeks or months of their time. stop giving /asp/ies more excuses to waste their time.

>> No.15756530

>>15756071
you sound even more like a viewerfaggot considering you opened up your answer to the first question with your favorite vtubers and not your actual experience designing a character
the problem with dismissive bootcampy advice like yours is that it doesn't do enough to dispel doubts or help people redirect their energy towards something that's actually going to help them if you're just going to tell them to do something else without actually addressing their concern
Yes using lore in your content is stupid.
Yes drawing attention to your lore in a stream is stupid.
What's not stupid is creating an avenue where it's easier to figure out how to design your character and become more comfortable with streaming once you've figured out how to represent yourself properly. The point of this advice is not to claim that lore is always going to be relevant, but to change the way lorefaggots view what they're already doing and redirect their energy into something that'll help them get to the "start streaming" part.
>they could be doing their stream reps like filling dead air, getting rid of uuuhmmms and uuuhhhhs, practicing how to speak clearly
you wouldn't watch them even if they fixed these things anyway

>> No.15756710

>>15756530
Literally using your eyeballs for two seconds would make it pretty clear that the person you just responded to isn't the same as the original post.

>> No.15757468

>>15755395
I think lore is important but only during the initial stage that is designing your chuuba.

I know /asp/ies are split on whether or not chuuba design matters but speaking from my opinion as a long-time viewer, it does. Part of why I watch chuubas is because of the cute anime girl or the cool anime guy designs. Why would you go with being a chuuba if you don't plan on investing (time or money) in a good design from the beginning? You might as well just be one of those faceless streamers; at least the viewers can imagine that you look good if you have a sexy voice.

Should you waste hundreds to thousands of dollars at the start when you've never even tried streaming? No, and you're an idiot if you do so. But at least take time to design it or hire someone to do it, then pay one of the thousands of artists on Twatter to draw a cheap PNGTuber for you. If you don't have an appealing design, you're losing out on viewers. Your design is the first thing people encounter--seen on your profile pictures, headers, thumbnails, etc. That's what makes them click to see if you have a good voice or if you have a personality that isn't just as blank as a piece of paper. This is especially true during zatsus. Most people don't pay for Supas and ignore the chat since the chuuba reads them out anyway, what other incentive is there to not Ctrl + T and ruin the stats during those? It's obviously what you're looking at.

This is where the lore comes in. Even VTubers who you can tell are just LARP'ing their ideal selves have some kind of lore. Don't just go, "this is me but anime." I agree with those who said it's embarrassing especially as an indie to go too into lore or stay in "character" unless asked. Or if it's genuinely related to your main content. For example, an occultist chuuba who reads creepypasta or talks about urban legends. But even then, don't keep bringing it up to the point it becomes annoying or coming off as childish roleplaying.

TL;DR: Just put at least some effort into the lore because it will affect your design, which is what really matters.

>> No.15759909

why do people keep arguing in circles about lore in this thread when its such a pointless nonfactor
do lore, dont do lore, be as into or out of your character as you want, doesnt matter as long as you just be talkative and funny and make content for fucks sake

>> No.15762072

>>15759909
I was mostly upset because this thread is supposed to be helping chuubas get their footing and have their questions answered but if answers to legitimate questions are met with "ignore it and start streaming" then it starts to feel kinda worthless. That's not the kind of answer you get when you ask for help in a board like /ic/ for example, it might be full of shitters but at least people will bother to explain and point things out.
If there's anything I learned from doing art, critics, viewers, users etc will usually have some legitimate thoughts behind their criticism, but only another creator can point out the exact thing you need to fix and why. If we're going to be critical of other people's choices, we should be able to explain why, instead of just being dismissive.

>> No.15762158

>>15762072
>/ic/
JUST DRAW.

>> No.15762220

>>15762158
anon you dont understand i NEED that cintiq before i can start my chicken scratch league of legends porn patreon

>> No.15762394

>>15742260
>>15742319
I agree. Youre getting there, the head is very good, but mind the clothing. Dont forget the free outfits on booth.pm

>> No.15763085

>>15762220
The similarities are striking sometimes between there and here. Especially since a year has passed, head the advice didn’t change but people still don’t follow it.

>> No.15763113

>>15762072
Okay, so the reason why lore IS important first of all.
It gives you some basis to spin stories from, and potentially exaggerate them. Nobody cares about the time I went to go see a film and there were weebs there. Instead, spin it as the time you went to see the new footage beamed home from the Enterprise, and there were a bunch of Klingoweebs spouting off gibberish about HONOUR AND BLOODWINE in the atrium. Add in a story about one of them brandishing his (home made) Bat'Leth, and you can fill some time with it.
This serves a secondary purpose - it allows you to add distance and opsec. If I talk about my job at (not really) BofA, then it narrows down who I could be a bit (it might also be against contract, so I'm just hoping I don't get caught). But if I talk about my job in the bureaucracy of the King's Mint, then it keeps who I am outside of streaming a slight step away (best bet would be a completely different day job, like a painter, but then it can be hard to parse the content).

The problem with lore is that, for the most part, people don't care about the character. In fact, they don't always care about YOU as a streamer, but about the stream.
One streamer I watch is Ikumi. She does a LOT of ASMR (she's good at it,although often leans into the GFE side). Over the last month, the lowest she's sat at for peak ASMR in stream is 350. Pretty much every game section (apart from one Phasmo bit, but I think maybe that's either a raid, or SG not updating) either drops to around 200, or doesn't cross that in the first place.
https://sullygnome.com/channel/ikumi/30
Check out the 90 day stats too
https://sullygnome.com/channel/ikumi/90
Or here, other chuubas. Look at how one game/category stands out:
https://sullygnome.com/channel/FallenShadow/30

That said, a majority of your viewers, so long as you don't lean into GF/BFE will probably be consistent in your streams, regardless of what you're doing. However, when you watch a TV show, do you want a spoken monologue, or a flashback? Which is more interesting to watch?

Lore can be useful, but it's gonna be info-dumped.

I had plans for my lore, and they still sort of are around. But I've realized that my viewers literally do not care about it. Do whatever, I'll still just be an anime person on the internet for them to watch.


Nobody (except one schizo) is saying don't have lore. Feel free to have some. But all the effort involved in making your lore could instead be put towards something that's actually going to benefit you in a more serious way

>> No.15765442

Anyone here who was able to commission a full body model for less than $400 or am I on a futile search?

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>>15765442
Live2D discord is the best place to find people underselling themselves. Shouldn't be hard to find.

>> No.15766902

Is the Leap Motion still worth it? For hand tracking and possibly VR.

>> No.15768152
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>be me
>live in shithole town with other 5 family members for economical convenience
>small disability that prevents me from driving
>stuck in a low pay job just because it's walking distance from home
>decide to become chuuba because I think it will make me more social not for the money
>takes me a whole year to save for a pc that can handle streaming
>takes me another half to be able to commission a model cause didn't do reps about pngtubers and from previous experience no one clicks into a stream without facecam
>some more time learning how to rig my own model to save money
>by the time I'm ready to stream thousands of people hopped into the vtuber hype train
>don't care much cause I just wanna have fun but I also wanna see some growth
>house is a shithole so I can only stream when everyone is at work/sleeping which collides with my work schedule
>reach affiliate requirements but don't apply because I don't feel comfortable getting money from strangers
>struggling with growth, stuck in 10-20 viewer hell for the past months
>ask for collabs from a few people with the same interests, trying to stay realistic number-wise, still get ignored or rejected by most of them
>one particular response triggers me:
>"I only collab with people who take it seriously, sorry"
>mfw

Sorry if I sound like a crybaby, I just felt like venting a little.

>> No.15768692

>>15765536
Thanks for this, man.

Does anyone have any recommendations for high quality PNGTuber artists? Those that run until $200 is fine. Been putting in the work myself but Twitter search is full of bots, Jesus Christ.

>> No.15768783

>>15768152
>10-20 viewer hell
you're honestly doing fantastic considering 90% of people who get a model dont even try after their first month, but low self-esteem is the actual hell here
you should be very proud of what you've managed to accomplish given your circumstances. it might be difficult to accept, but your viewers have judged you as someone worth watching and being around, and if you become an affiliate or open donations, it'll be completely up to them on whether they think you deserve money, and you shouldn't push them away just because of what you think of yourself

>> No.15769246

>>15765536
Thanks for sharing this, I was wondering the same thing myself. All of you people that post in /asp/ are very helpful

>> No.15769488

When commissioning something, is there a way to pay discreetly? I'm not sure if my personal info will show if I use my paypal

>> No.15769610

>>15769488
unless you can mail some cash, no. it's the unfortunate reality of digital payment and bank cards, the people on the backend have to know where the money is going and coming from
the only incriminating thing that should pop up is your name, and artists have an unspoken rule to keep quiet about it, though you are free to ask them yourself about confidentiality

>> No.15769648

>>15769488
crypto

>> No.15769651

>>15768692
Technically any artist can be a PNGTuber artist as long as you give them the right description, unless you're expecting them to split the model so its ready for rigging. If they don't split it, you can probably find a talented rigger that can do it after the fact

>> No.15769735

>>15768783
;-; Thank you anon.

The 20 is quite a stretch that I would get in a good day. My usual number is 12 and most of them are regulars lurking to support me. My chat is normally 2-3 people chatting, which I'm very grateful for. There is rarely a time where I have no one to talk to and that makes me extremely happy. I know it can be a big struggle for other small streamers.

I was just so put off by someone saying that I don't take it seriously just because my goal is not making a living out of it.
I can't deny that I feel jealous when I see chuubas emerging out of nowhere and immediately getting 5x the follower amount that it took me months to reach just because they could market themselves better. I couldn't be happier for them, but it makes me wonder what am I doing wrong and if I'm too unlikable to retain the eventual stream clickers.
Low self esteem indeed I guess.

>> No.15769821

>>15769488
You can choose a display name on Paypal which I believe it's the one artists see when paying (not fully sure about that part), but when paying make sure to click "no address needed" because the autofill will put your address. My mama knows where I live cause I clicked too fast. :')

>> No.15769884

>>15768152
>reach affiliate requirements but don't apply because I don't feel comfortable getting money from strangers
I mean, you should get over this particular insecurity regardless of you wanting to "go pro" or not.
You don't need to reach hololive numbers for it to be better than some sort of part-time, minimum wage job.
But as the other anon said, 10-20 is not bad for "aspiring" vtubers, imagine if IRL there were up to 20 people willing to see you screw around, clearly there's something to work with.
>"I only collab with people who take it seriously, sorry"
Newbie Vtubers who try to squeeze a career out of it won't have any reason to collab with someone they don't think can boost them up.
Honestly it's a lot like 18-y/o's running away to LA to become an actress, a LOT of diva-ish self importance with none of the justification.

You're on the right track bruh

>> No.15770098

Should I commission a sketch of my character first before commissioning an actual model? And how do you figure out a name?

>> No.15770238

>>15770098
Most artists will give you a sketch with a free revision before doing the model. You should have an idea of what you want beforehand and provide the artist a detailed description of what you want so you don't go through too many revisions, which usually increase the cost. Name usually comes later, I recommend going with something that suits the theme of your OC and is easy for people to remember/pronounce.

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>>15750801
Looks like I have to transfer USD to Yen and setup OBS then.

>> No.15770404

>>15769488
Crypto or busyness paypal it's free.

>> No.15770562

>>15769488
Just make a different fucking paypal what is so hard about this

>> No.15770609

>>15769648
>>15770404
nta but what are some good artists that accept crypto?

>> No.15770641

>>15769884
>you should get over this particular insecurity
I guess you're right, but I would feel guilty if anyone subscribed and I couldn't provide consistency with my streaming schedule.
>10-20 is not bad for "aspiring" vtubers
It's not, I'm happy that the people stick with me even if they just lurk to boost up the number, it's just that I've been streaming for almost half a year and my numbers have been pretty much the same since I started, so I blame myself for not being able to entertain the newcomers to stay (also blame a bit my usual game of choice)
>Newbie Vtubers who try to squeeze a career out of it won't have any reason to collab with someone they don't think can boost them up.
I see this. A lot. I just hoped there would be genuine people in the community (and I definitely found some) but a good chunk of them just care about numbers. It's sad.

>> No.15770767

will anyone believe that I just want to collab with people to have fun and pretend I have a friend for a few hours

>> No.15771117

>>15770641
I'm gonna give you my perspective from a guy that is only subbed to 2 <20 viewer chuubas that I really enjoy a lot
If I sub to a chuuba it means I really enjoyed some of their content and would like to stick around and be part of their community. I subbed to one after a single 4 hours stream because I actually had a lot of fun. The way I see it is: I spent like 60 bucks to watch Spiderman a month or so ago and it was kinda meh for 2 hours, I just had a lot of fun in this stream for the past 3 hours, might as well drop a 5 bucks sub to help them out because they deserve it and I want to show them someone out there is enjoying their work.
I don't expect anyone to slave away 40 hours a week with regular 4+ hours streams because I drop 5 bucks on them a month. That's insane. Couple times per week is perfectly fine, in my opinion.

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I'm procrastinating like my life depends on it so I might as well make it productive for someone.

If you want to, post your twitch/youtube and I'll tell you the first impression you leave me with as a first time viewer and whether or not you piqued my curiosity enough to keep following you.
I won't hold back on criticism or throw praises just to make you feel good, but I'm also going to stick to feedback that can be useful to you.

>> No.15771474
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15771474

>like anime
>like vidya
>have streamed before
>have casted competitive games
>nihongo is functional
>tenor vocalist

>fat as fuck
Is it weird that I want to model my weight loss goals after looking like a “proper idol”? The chance of me actually being a chuuba is all but zero percent, but I think I want to imagine I’m working towards it like I’ll get the job, if nothing else but to get healthier. Still, it’d be fun to live out some kind of schizo fantasy that I was actually hired for the role and needed to get /fit/ for the position

>> No.15771663

>>15768152
>struggling with growth, stuck in 10-20 viewer hell for the past months

yo mate hit us with the link to the stream ill check it out, you could get a couple people here

Your on the right path keep it up!

>> No.15772401

>>15771663
That's very kind <3 but I just got a bit too peronal and I don't really talk about my life on stream beside silly anecdotes. I'm just the roommate right now.

>> No.15773535

The optimal "feature concentration" for a model is from head to chest, right?
I'm realizing that designing a techmeme jacket around 3 colors is pretty hard so I'm considering on showing my model down to the waist, but I'm not planning on moving my arms so that will look weird.
What do?

>> No.15774069

>>15773535
If you're worried that the jacket design might be too complex and take away the focus point you can add a few accessories matching the theme of your character. Different color hair strains, a hat, a pendant, stuff of that sort. 3 colors on a jacket don't sound overwhelming at all, as long as you follow that same color scheme for the rest of the character.
I'm sorry if I didn't understand your actual concern due to my ESLness.

>> No.15774950

>>15768152
if you really want to find people that won't brush you off like that around your size you could unironically try integrating with /wvt/ chuubas i don't think any of them would really ever say anything like that
also take affiliate you dummy i'm sure that if you have a dedicated base like that that those people want to support you however they can
also emotes and channel point redeems are fun to play with

>> No.15775024

>>15771474
>The chance of me actually being a chuuba is all but zero percent
why not? are you aiming only to audition to become a corpo? you could always go the indie route if auditions don't work

>> No.15775562

>>15774950
I've never promoted myself /here/ cause my content is very narrow. I basically play the same game on stream 90% of the time cause it's what I feel the most comfortable with. Finding chuubas with the same interests is hard, specially if I'm not willing to play that many games on stream. I can definitely join your generic Minecraft/Phasmophobia/Amogus collab but there's also a thousand other people willing to do so and not really a reason to pick me over them without knowing me first.

>> No.15775619

>>15775562
>not really a reason to pick me over them without knowing me first.
that's why you get to know them first, silly
i also have a very narrow focus for a lot of my content and i've still had people reach out to me for different kinds of collabs

>> No.15776019

>>15775024
not really aiming for anything desu. I’ve grow too accustomed to failure at this point, seems easier to just automatically imagine I’m working out for an audition and then cross that road if it ever even get there in the first place

>> No.15776075

>>15765536
>have to link a seperate account AND give them your phone number
christ

>> No.15776358

>>15775619
It also feels uncomfortable when you start to know someone, play a few off-stream games with them and realize you don't really click, specially if it's single sided. From the people that actually responded to me, there was one who gave me really bad vibes so I slowly drifted apart, although they still keep hitting me up nowadays asking if I want to play and I refuse politely cause I don't wanna say "Hey sorry I realized I don't like you cause you creep me out."
There was another viewer chuuba that asked me to play and although they were nice overall I didn't like their attitude when playing, my bad for not doing reps on their vods. We also drifted apart after a few games but at least it was mutual.

Going through this process with multiple people can be so tedious and socially draining. I don't blame other chuubas for rejecting/ignoring me at all.

>> No.15776586

>>15776075
>had my phone number linked to my roommate discord
>wanted to join with my chuuba account
>tried to unlink from roommate discord
>cannot, need at least one number for whatever fucking reason even when deactivating two-step verification
>decide to delete roommate account because I don't use it that much anyways
>had to wait a whole month for the deletion to process
>finally
>tried to put phone number on chuuba discord
>"this number is already linked to another account"
>???
>discord customer service takes almost two weeks to fix this
>chuuba account finally able to post in live2d server

I hated this.

>> No.15777332

>>15774069
>If you're worried that the jacket design might be too complex and take away the focus point you can add a few accessories matching the theme of your character.
Ah, no, it's not that. My problem is that I don't know what to do to fit the colors I'm working with into the jacket into a pattern that looks good but isn't just a copy of an existing jacket.
Also, since my model is >m*le I don't want to add any accessories on the hair. It also doesn't fit with the theme, model is supposed to look like a slob that just picks what he can for clothes but also pretty.

>> No.15778198

>>15777332
What are those colors if you're okay with sharing?
Male chuubas can also look good with hair ornaments without looking g*y.
A strain of colored hair on the side is also a good choice that doesn't overwhelm the overall design and gives some personality to your model.

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>>15778198
>What are those colors if you're okay with sharing?
These.
I was aiming for a techwear aesthetic but I'm having difficulty finding any jackets that use more than black and a highlight color. Also the first time I try designing clothes.
I'm trying to use the purple and teal combined with some white for the jacket, the black for the pants and shirt.
I'll be making the pink lighter and using it for the hair to be almost white. I did use ColorSpace with a lighter pink but I didn't like it all that much.

This also gave me all of my favorite colors in one color scheme somehow.

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>>15778817
I'm reminded heavily of this palette and aesthetic

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>>15777332
It's kind of hard to give useful advice without being able to see your design. Generally it helps to give your colours some sort of hierarchical relationship, such as 2 main colours and 1 accent colour (like in picrel where black and white are the main colours and blue is the accent). Or else if you have 2 similar colours (say, 2 light colours and 1 dark colour), keep the light colours grouped together.
Also think about parts of the jacket where it might be natural to have colour changes - sleeves, pockets, straps, zippers, drawstrings, the lining, etc
Also don't worry about being too similar to an existing design. It's unlikely that anyone will notice and if anyone does they probably won't care.

>> No.15779726

>>15768152
What is your twitter I will collab with you

>> No.15779865

>>15778817
The best way I can think of to make it work is having the darker colors (black, purple) as the base fabric and the lighter ones (pink, cyan) as highlight. A cool Motive would be using those for tubes across the jacket/led lights on the edges but you gotta be good at coloring to give the glowing effect.
The pinkish white hair will definitely look pretty. If you wanna add the different hair strain (I'm so fucking annoying with it), that purple would be a great choice.
For the pants, the best two options are either one single flat color or following the same color distribution of the jacket.

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>>15779045
Thanks, anon.
Google is being a little shit about your pic but I think this will help me.

>>15779199
I've been trying to draft a design here but past the hair I'm struggling hard; and as you can see it looks like a fucking World Trigger OC so far. I think that I have a good grasp on what I want but no idea how to bring it to reality.
Basically,
>long unkempt hair
>sharp teeth
>colorful techwear jacket
>black shirt or turtleneck to wash down all the colors
>assymetrical pants
>robotic left foot
>expensive shoe torn to shreds on right foot

I won't concern myself all that much with the last two since those are there only in case I make it by some miracle and people want to start making fanart; they might not even make into my model until I switch to 2D or something like that. Even then, most male models I've seen have nothing of note below the belt.

>>15779865
I'll give the hair streak some thought. I wanted to keep the hair as simple as possible but if it helps, it helps.

>The best way I can think of to make it work is having the darker colors (black, purple) as the base fabric and the lighter ones (pink, cyan) as highlight.
Kind of like the version on the right?

>A cool Motive would be using those for tubes across the jacket/led lights on the edges but you gotta be good at coloring to give the glowing effect.
Hm. I'll consider this too, but I'm not too sure. I'm not good enough at coloring to pull it off.

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>>15781503
go for 90s jazz design

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>>15781503
I just pooped a quick sketch with what I had in hand at work (fucking bics and a pencil) but imagine the colors are right. It looks terrible but maybe it can inspire you to do something closer to what you want.

>> No.15782531

I'm stuck for over a week at same sub number, no one fucking joins after streaming everyday and posting videos wtf
How do I go viral

>> No.15782798

>>15782531
Live seppuku

>> No.15782872

>>15782531
It's impossible to give you advice on your channel without knowing what content you're making. There's no such thing as actionable general advice. Best you'll get if you stay anon is
>make good content and market yourself

>> No.15783004

>>15782872
People who are on my streams enjoy them, I just need tips on marketing I think
Maybe stuff like naming my videos to make them appear? Idk

>> No.15783078

>>15783004
Naming your videos doesn't matter in 2022. Same with tags. That stuff only mattered back when Youtube was new, now everything is based on algorithms.

>> No.15783209

>>15769488
Ko-fi, SEPay, Patreon, SE Tipping, a business paypal, or paying through a site like Fiverr (I think, don't know if Fiverr redacts name).

I've got a business paypal set-up, and it was super easy. You do run the risk of them getting info on a chargeback or something, but if you're just a buyer, you should be fine.

>> No.15783221

>>15782531
YouTube sucks for early growth. Stream on Twitch and migrate when you have a decent follower base and a good amount of regular viewers. The numbers to do so are up to you depending on your expectations.

>> No.15783304

>>15769735
I know, it's plebbit, but here

https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/rrg341

People talking about taking six months, or even over a year, and they've not hit 100 followers, or not hit affiliate.

It's eye-opening how bad most streamers are.

>> No.15783316

>>15783078
imo naming is still important in some ways, sure its the algorithm that puts videos in my recommended box but a lot of the time its still the title that hooks me in to actually clicking on something (alongside the thumbnail obviously)

>> No.15783361

>>15783221
Given the absolute shitshow Youtube is having with their viewership numbers right now, even that might not be the ideal strategy moving forward.

>> No.15783712

>>15783361
>Given the absolute shitshow Youtube is having with their viewership numbers right now
[citation needed]

>> No.15783834

>>15783304
jesus and i thought me hitting 53 after a month or so was slow-ish

>> No.15783850

>>15783304
I hit 100 followers in about 3 months even with my streaming inconsistency. Someone that streams daily can definitely make it faster.
Something that really helps is always raiding after the stream. Preferably chuubas having your viewership or less that are streaming the same thing as you were. Bigger chuubas will just thank you and brush it off. Smaller ones will !so you, and usually follow you back after their stream. They might raid you in the future as well, and maybe you find cool people to play/interact with by doing this.
Thee platform is definitely clogged with logs on a gaming chair, but it's still more frequented and eventually someone will find you and stay if you have something to offer.

>> No.15784008
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this was my first time drawing and rigging a model it was very hard

>> No.15784032

>>15783850
>>15783834
Yeah. I hit 50 followers in six weeks, 1 day, and was on 4 CCV, so got affiliate on day 43 of streaming. It then took me 33 days to hit 100, and then another 100 days to hit 200. I've stalled out since. And still, according to twitchtracker, I'm top 3.8%.

The majority of streamers are idiots who turn on their favourite game, play for two hours, and then leave.

LITERALLY, watching someone else fuck up a CK3 stream was why I got into streaming. I knew I could do better than their shitty layout, and I failed high-school art.

So I did.

>> No.15784090

>>15784008
>cute/10
>nice rig for a first timer

>> No.15784127

>>15783712
Ame just ran a poll on her Supa Sunday that had 180% participation rate in 3 minutes, as if you needed another example after the past three days. And if you want to claim this is tribal, Kanae from Nijisanji literally recorded his lowest stream CCV of all time today.

Something is fucked up with Youtube for chuubas right now and moving from Twitch to Youtube at a pivotal point in your growth would honestly be a bad idea if this continues.

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>>15784090
thank you!! im gonna start streaming with this model but I feel like I have the ability to make it better now

>> No.15784204

>>15783078
How do I work with them in my favor then?

>>15783221
>>15783850
I actually do have a Twitch, I have about half my followers there (350 vs 160), I have hit affiliate there too but I was trying to keep streaming same amount on both platforms and ended up ditching Twitch
Maybe I'll try going back with strategy one karaoke on yt + daily videos and a few games on Twitch weekly? This may work I guess

>> No.15784208

>>15784127
>/asp/
>hololive
>nijisanji
so you're absolutely retarded, got it.

>> No.15784266

>>15784208
Do you really, honestly think that only corporate channels are going to be affected by a platform-wide change?

>> No.15784368

>>15784266
Yeah, your 12 subscriber youtube channel is getting 0 views on your 6 hour long silent Dwarf Fortress vods specifically because of whatever live viewer count issue is going on. You actually have 700 viewers and 26,000 views, it's just a bug on youtube's end. Neck yourself you absolute retard.

>> No.15784379

>>15784032
I am idiot that plays my favorite game and leave. But after 4-6h. And I make highlight videos for YT but I'm not sure if they helped me grow in any way. I wish I was a bit better at social media, I suck at posting on Twitter.

>> No.15784436

>>15784204
>How do I work with them in my favor then?
Work with what in your favor?

>> No.15784512

>>15784379
I mean, so long as you're not trying to "make it" by playing minecraft, without talking, and covering up important parts of the UI, you're doing better than the streamers that inspited me did

>> No.15784633

>>15784436
Algorithms, sorry it's late for me and I'm also retarted
>>15784368
You may laugh but I actually saw a few times on my live count 11 going back to 6 when if buffored so idk

>> No.15784753

>>15784633
>Algorithms
Unless you're going to link your shit, the only thing you're gonna get is "make content viewers want to consume".

>> No.15785054

>>15784512
Not trying to make a living out of it (haven't applied for affiliate yet, same anon chuuba as >>15768152 ). Just trying to have fun and see my efforts paying off by growth.
I don't find my VODS enjoyable. I definitely have a massive lot to improve, but it's also not too terrible if compared to some, which I hate doing. I wish my speech and intonation were better, but I'm not a silent log either, although I find myself unconsciously repeating a lot of expressions, which annoys me a lot.

>> No.15785271

>>15785054
>Just trying to have fun and see my efforts paying off by growth.
When you start out, these two are going to be mutually exclusive. What you personally find as fun will not be what viewers find fun. You need to get out of the mindset that you're just playing for fun if you want to grow. You need to develop the skill of learning how to entertain others.

Go pull up any random streamer playing Sekiro right now. Lots of fun to play, intensely challenging. The majority of them are shit streamers because they're having fun but not being entertaining. When you start, if you want to grow, you need to learn how to entertain.

You don't have to of course but you'll end up like those hundreds of 0views that stream for months unable to achieve Affiliate despite it being one of the easiest milestones on Twitch.

>> No.15785853

>>15785271
What I think my gimmick is, is being slightly above average at my usual game of choice, which you don't see that many female chuubas playing and even less being good at it.
I don't have any particular talent beside playing a lot of FPS and being decent at (some of) them and I want my channel to revolve around that. I will eventually expand my content when I have more time, but I lack of confidence to step in fields like karaoke and such and it's something I'm slowly working on off-stream until I feel ready.

>> No.15785923

>>15785853
I'm less interested in watching your stream after that sales pitch. You better work on that.

>> No.15786061

>>15785923
Your interest is something I never wanted. If I wanted to shill myself, I would've already done it.

>> No.15786243

>>15786061
eek lol

>> No.15786295

>>15786061
your "gimmick" is literally "i'm not like other girls"

>> No.15786433

>>15785853
So why should we watch you over Botan?

>> No.15786633

>>15785853
>>15786061
Christ, this is "tell me exactly why I won't want to watch you in two posts" tier.

>> No.15787678

>>15786295
Just because I said that I am slightly more skilled than the average player and that there aren't that many female chuubas in this particular game and majority of them are not that good at it (confirmed, did reps) because they either play it more casually or simply don't have the amount of hours that I do. How does that make me a "pick me"?
>>15786433
>>15786633
You shouldn't. I've never promoted myself /here/.

I don't know if my social ineptitude made it sound like I said "I'm better than them", but if what upset you was the gender specification, guess what, it matters. Specially when there is such a big difference in the gender ratio playing a game.
It wasn't long ago that anons in /asp/ were recommending me to play RTS games and pointing out the female buff. I don't see the difference.

>> No.15787764

>>15787678
If you think all that's going to carry your career as a vtuber is the fact that you're a woman and you're playing a game not many women play well, with literally zero other qualities to try and sell yourself on, I'm not sure what to tell you.

>> No.15787784

>>15787678
The question is "why should we watch you" and your answer is "don't" please anon, try to be smarter about this, you're being asked what your elevator pitch is. When asked, you said "I don't have any particular talent beside playing a lot of FPS" and didn't offer any reason to watch YOU be sorta good at FPS games over watching literally anyone else.

>> No.15787921

>>15787678
You need charisma to be a streamer.

>> No.15788069

>>15787678
>How does that make me a "pick me"?
I never said you were a pick me. I said your entire pitch is "I'm not like other girls" with "other girls" being bad at games and you being "slightly more skilled". That's not really a good reason anyone would want to watch your content.

Selen started vtubing as "I got to Top 500 Apex predator twice" as one of her draws. That's something worth tuning into. "At least I'm not as bad as other girls" isn't something that's worth clicking on and watching. Plus it sets you off on a bad foot by insulting every other female streamer out there not even just chuubas.

>> No.15788085

>>15787678
I am dying for you to link your content. C’mon let’s see this gameplay that you puff your chest and get so cocky about. I hope you know it’s not going to carry you. You seem toxic as fuck, good luck to you anyway.

>> No.15788425

>>15788085
That could be her gimmick, honestly. I love when women get tilted and lash out at everyone and anything within reach. I think it's hot.
Is the idea of a toxic online gaming chuuba too lame?

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>>15788425

>> No.15788671

>>15788425
If she can make the gimmick work, possibly. I've come across some vtubers who get toxic during games though and more often then not it just ends up being whiny and annoying more so than entertaining. It's a hard thing to do right.

>> No.15788811

>>15783209
Wait anon can you give more info on paypal chargeback giving away your info.

>> No.15789205

>>15745167
>>15745214
>>15745722
thanks chiefs I'll start posting schedules regularly

>> No.15789353

>>15787764
>career
For like the fifth time in the thread, I am not trying to make a single penny out of streaming.
>>15787784
I'm not gonna shill myself. You click on my stream, you like me and my gameplay, you stay. You don't, you leave. It's as simple as that.
>>15787921
Anon do reps pls. All you have to do is click previous replies. I literally said my VODs are not enjoyable and I have a lot to improve. The only reason I pointed this out is because >>15785271 was saying you need something. Where did I act cocky?
>>15788069
>insulting every other female streamer out there not even just chuubas
I didn't do that. When I said I was better than the average player, it wasn't genderwise. I specifically mentioned there aren't many female chuubas playing this specific game (literally below 15) on a regular basis, but this was only applied to chuubas. I'm pretty sure there are hundreds of female streamers that would stomp me.


I guess you can only play the pitiful card on this thread.

>> No.15789560

>>15789353
>I guess you can only play the pitiful card on this thread.
Imagine getting slammed for an awful attitude and having this as your takeaway. There was literally a female chuuba on here yesterday that got a lot of praise because she was doing things right compared to... whatever the fuck this is.

>> No.15789816

>>15789560
yep yesterday was tabgod

she was a great streamer, I tuned into her Dark Souls stream and tried not to lurk
Shes actually a complete newbie at it but it didnt come off as annoying at all

>> No.15790068

>>15789353
explaining yourself this much to a bunch of men in a 4chan thread is how i know you're ngmi sorry anon

>> No.15790183

>>15789816
Is Tabby a newbie?
Dang, I've been enjoying her streams a lot and figured she had some kind of previous experience because she's actually sorta good at being entertaining.

>> No.15790364

>>15789353
lol, i guess i know why you were rejected from colab

>> No.15790985

>>15790183
I meant she was a newbie at dark souls

however her oldest stream that can be seen just to be 2 months ago so she may be a newbie there too

>> No.15791344

>>15789560
The difference is that I'm not trying to look for advice or shill myself. Not a reasonable comparison.
I'm pretty sure she's a lovely person, but also keep in mind that in many cases people don't truly speak their mind because it's like walking on eggshells, specially when trying to market themselves. I don't really care and I will stand my point, apologize, or double back when I think I should.
With the pitiful card takeaway I only meant that everyone was being supportive when I was undermining myself but when I tried to point out "a reason to watch me" anons took it the wrong way, even after I tried to clarify.

With that said I will apologize for starting and developing drama on a place that is meant for support and positivity. I will be quiet now so chuubas asking for actual advice can take over.

>> No.15791419

if im on a budget (100-110) Realistically, what do I need as far as overlays go?

>> No.15791569

>>15791419
Bare minimum, you only need an overlay for gaming (something that can handle a 16:9 window, 4:3 windows can still fit nicely into that).

If you want more than that, a loading screen and a gaming screen. You can use the loading screen for starting, BRB, and ending screens.

Most talking / zatsudan in between can be handled on these screens too.

>> No.15791591

>>15791344
lol, in what world is a thread on fucking /vt/ painted as a hugbox?

>> No.15791673

>>15791419
you could probably find free overlays on twitter
https://twitter.com/Leo_says_stuff/status/1477608186194583554?s=20
https://twitter.com/SaerinuStorm/status/1447333567781081089?s=20
https://twitter.com/VedantVFX/status/1392430853448372228?s=20
here's a couple i found just by using some hashtags but honestly you don't really need to invest that much in an overlay at the beginning as long as it doesn't look terrible you should be fine

>> No.15791679

>>15791419
don't bother commissioning overlays. just use free ones until you figure out what you want.

>> No.15792037

>>15791344
We were just responding in kind to the bad attitude behind your last few posts. I read your first post, the self-deprecating one, and didn't respond to it for what it's worth

>> No.15795725

>>15791419
There’s an excel sheet in the OP pastebin with a bunch of free assets. And you can always just use a royalty free image as your background. If you’re on a budget spend none of it on layout.

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>>15781884
>90s jazz design
Hm....

>>15781995
It's fine, anon.
Thanks.

>> No.15796561
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>>15796435
forgot muh teef

It's weird but I feel like it brings it all together somehow.

>> No.15797697

>>15795725
>>15791679
>>15791673
>>15791569
I already have a model, so I figured getting something more personalized wouldn't be too bad.

>> No.15798356

Are retro games debuffs?

>> No.15798530
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Tonya is my new favorite angy, oblivious, cute start up.

>> No.15798568

>>15798356
no

>> No.15798898

>>15797697
It depends on the look you're going for.
Your price range may get you one or two screens / overlays, but you can also make do with a nicely designed background and maybe a custom browser source or chat box.

My current set-up is one that I designed myself, that mostly utilizes browser sources and a background, with a custom chatbox that i use for some of my scenes
I personally think it's best to have flexible assets
you can add your own pictures or text that says "STARTING SOON" "JUST CHATTING" "BRB" and "STREAM ENDING" to a background, and repurpose it for banners and headers as well

If you don't want that, I do still recommend budgeting for one overlay for gaming, or an overlay for gaming and an overlay that you can use for starting / brb / ending

For best effect, make a mood board for your designer, where they can identify pillars of your character's design and find ways to incorporate them.

>> No.15799998

>>15796435
>>15796561
You're being baited this is literally the pattern on Taco Bell cups

>> No.15800126

>>15799998
people will tune in just for the meme

>> No.15800205

>>15799998
>implying that wasn't fully intentional

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15804012

>>15799998
>mfw
jokes on me for somehow never setting foot on a taco bell

>>15800205
There IS a jacket that looks like those cups.
Google 'soscribbly 90s jazz design'.

>> No.15807414

I’m planning to sing and play guitar for an audition video. How long should I do it for? Is a minute a good time?

>> No.15807888

Can me, a m*le, learn from female vtubers?

>> No.15807967

>>15807888
Every streamer has something you can learn from. Most female streamers don't do anything fundamentally different aside from GFE and similar ones that specifically bait the opposite sex.

>> No.15808065

>>15807888
how to not be funny

>> No.15808142

Anybody got any intel on Instagram? Is it mostly just pictures and memes and crap or can you post videos? I mostly do singing, is that something that would play over there? Unlike all the other social media sites I’ve literally never touched it.

>> No.15808248

>>15763113
>Nobody cares about the time I went to go see a film and there were weebs there.

You must not watch many streamers, or maybe you just aren't into it.

Funny personal stories are some of the best content for streamers and make you far more relatable than a retard LARPing a spaceman. Almost no one with any relevancy at all does this. The goal is to entertain and repeatability is much more entertaining than an RP fiction about an irl situation. "You're a streamer, not a cartoon character" is something I see parroted a lot here.

Lore can be useful, but in the end it doesn't really matter. My character designer used a short paragraph I gave him (alongside references) to add a bit of flavor and detail to my character design, but without those things it still wouldn't been fine.

>> No.15808364

>>15807967
I was thinking in general personality terms, though.

>>15808065
I was actually asking because I love how Selen acts when she plays children's games; like that time she called for backseaters during her Peppa Pig stream, I assume she gets a lot of those during her Ap*x streams.
Not every female is Selen of course.

>> No.15808644

Do you think vshojo sent out their round 3 acceptances along time ago already?

>> No.15808716

>>15808644
Is VShoujo even doing auditions after the doxxing drama?

>> No.15808934

How does VTuber Maker compare to VSeeFace?

>> No.15808958

>>15808716
It’s been completely radio silence I have no clue. I’ve seen people speculating about them debuting new members in February which made me wonder

>> No.15809053

>>15808644
>>15808716
>>15808958
It's only been 2 months, the applicants who made it are most likely still being processed.

>> No.15809161

>>15808364
Probably not, you aren't a girl.

>> No.15810265

>>15788811
If you as a seller have a chargeback against you, I think it provides the buyer with the contact information you put in initially - the name, address, and phone number.

I don't know if it does this if the buyer does a chargeback.

>> No.15810500

>>15810265
Thanks for the info anon.

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my friend forced me to add more highlights and stuff but here we are now with adjusted hair

>> No.15811453

>>15811087
ok scratch that the highlights fucking SUCK lol i'll fix them hold on

>> No.15811591

>>15811087
>green and purple
Why would you do that to yourself?
also thanks doc

>> No.15811640

>>15811591
gotta pin that one on my friend
dude was leading me in the wrong direction and my dumb ass went with it

>> No.15811660

>>15811087
The whole thing looks disgusting. I hate vroids and the dark circles are 4chancore

>> No.15811677

>>15811660
dont worry im starting to hate vroids too, all it's making me want to do is get a 2d rig drawn out

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>>15811453
okay there we go. no more stupid highlight colors that make no sense

>> No.15812113

>>15811850
also removed the rimlighting but i'm too lazy to post an updated pic. goodnight yall

>> No.15812405

>>15715488
good stuff! keep it up!

>> No.15812556

How do I even be a vtuber with like 250gb of storage space

>> No.15812616

>>15812556
What would lead you to believe vtubing or streaming requires storage space past what your games and stream assets (a bunch of PNGs) are? Just get more storage space if you don't have enough.

>> No.15812643

>>15707909
>recommends booth for models
How do you deal with models/assets that don't have a clear copyright/Use policy? Many of them say nothing, and most just say like "don't use for porn. Don't redistribute. Reserve right to ask to stop use" or something. Japanese copyright law is so different than US law that it seems risky

>> No.15812693

>>15812556
If you play old games which are small you can make do. Ideally get more storage.

>> No.15812737

>>15812643
Are you looking at VRoid assets? Most complete "Character" models I've seen give you permission to use them for streaming aside from a few. They're great for starting with something super high quality then just transitioning to a redesign later down the line.

>> No.15813252

>>15808142
I made it a few days ago, so can't really say

>> No.15813370

>>15812737
I'm mostly talking about the assets like clothes. I avoid the Vroid stuff for that. I really hate modeling clothes, so I've been trying to find ones to edit instead. A lot of the ones I like just have no ToS though

>> No.15813397

>>15812737
NTA, but you seem to know what you're on about with vroid.
Is it possible yet to import hairstyles from booth into vroid 1? I checked online, and everything I could find was from release, and people whinging about it not being possible. I don't know if it still isn't, or if I'm just shit at searching

>> No.15815143

>>15813370
Have you considered messaging the artist asking for a Creative Commons license?

>> No.15815438

After months of thinking I have finally come up with a name and character for myself (coming up with names has always been hard for me). Now I just need to create a simple 2d design and I'll start

>> No.15815811

>15815438
these bait posts get weaker and weaker

>> No.15815967

My gimmick is going to be talking about sports. I will be a heemtuber.

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hi posting again whats the best face tracking software? i use VUP rn

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