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General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

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Fubuki's channel was boosted so much by her Pokemon stream. She went from 70k-150k views to 200k-800k. Her monthly sub count growth is three times more than usual

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Flare must have the highest proportion of tourist viewers in Hololive, her floor is so fucking low for someone who can get pretty great numbers fairly often when playing Minecraft.

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https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1476025711362473989
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000599.000030268.html
Azki joining Hololive proper

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Stop associating Kamitsubaki with the worst thread on the board you fucking faggot

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>>15438796
about time. Does that mean INNK music's talent and capital get merged into hololive as well?

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>>15438785
>Undershit
Boring game with bad time

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SC from yesterday

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>>15438864

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>>15438993
I think they're going to turn INNK into a proper music publication label and live event creation company.

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>>15439280
>music publication
you mean, music issuing, right?

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>>15438961
>>15438989
This is the most likely case. If they have talented staff in INNK and the 3d they use, there's no reason to can them but instead to fold them into Hololive so more talents can use their resources.
It's also likely due to contractual obligations, since INNK had ties to up8 if I'm not misremembering, and that's wrapping up in April 2022, so it makes sense to wrap things up there and move staff to where it makes sense.

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gura mogged

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>>15438796
hopefully they absorb the tech department too, they did some pretty cool stuff

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>>15439547
Nene/Towa/Suisei Christmas live already used INNK's 3D setup

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>>15439434
B-b-but EN gold!?

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Azki will officially be a member under Hololive productions

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>>15439657
yeah, and all of the Tubeout events (or whatever those are called) with Rikka

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>>15439323
whatever the proper terms are for it, you get what I mean.

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>>15439547
Having two full time studios would be nice. Not sure how it worked before.

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>>15439699
i seem to remember that shes been excluded from a lot of promo material and stuff and also was never in hologra and other company wide shit, so im guessing she can do that now

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>stealth bragging about Lamy when she can't even hit 10k on elite 4 pokemon
gen 5 fans are truly the most annoying and blind schizos in this thread

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>>15439832
She has, and its because until 2022, she's still technically a joint project between upd8 and Cover, so there might be specific issues wrt money/rights that can't be resolved cleanly until the current contract expires.

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>>15438864
Seethe

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https://twitter.com/AZKi_VDiVA/status/1476030199070588928
https://note.com/tsrnmz/n/ne76ba7bddb30
The frog will graduate

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>>15440112
That note is fucking brutal.
>As you can see from the press release, AZKi will be changing her affiliation from Inonaka Music to Hololive.
>In addition, the Inonaka Music label will be terminated and
>I will no longer be in a position to support them.

>I felt that I had become a bottleneck in the expansion of AZKi's activities.
>I offered to step down.
>But that was just my own decision.
>I felt that it would be wrong to close off the potential of her talent.

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>15440112

Anon, learn to fucking read thread >>15438796

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>>15439280
>>15439328
I hope that's the case. Instead of having them joined/outsource labels to produce their music, it's better to have their own music department and hired voca-p to produce whichever girl wants to take the music route

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>>15440173
"The frog" refers to Azki's manager you retard. Also you quoted both my posts.

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>>15440112
>>15440154
Frog-kun... you've done your best.. time to rest your tires frog body..

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>>15440173
Meant for >>15440112

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>>15440112
Good. Fuck the frog. Completely useless, and even actively malicious at times.

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>>15440154
At least he knows he fucked AZKi, which should have being really huge with her background.
But I bet YAGOO will hire him in some backstage role.

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>>15440313
>and even actively malicious at times.
Rrat?

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>>15440154
Damn. To know that you're the one in the way, and despite your best efforts to KNOW that it wasn't enough...
Bitter, truly bitter.

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>>15440112
good riddance. I still wanna beat him up for hindering and ignoring suisei.

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>>15440313
Now, I know I won't be alone in saying this (and there isn't too much interesting going on in numbers except that Gura's currently lower than what her usual numbers would be, not unexpected though...)
So what exactly has the frog done?

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>>15440332
>he fucked AZKi
Lucky frog...

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>>15440299
>>15440313
who the fuck is the frog?

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Make sense why this thread is so retarded at times, turns out full of newfag who doesn't even know who the frog is roru

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So will AZKi stop seething on twitter now or will she be more maligned now that she's been relegated to Hololive? She used to have things revolve around her.

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>>15440635
I've been around longer than 99% of the posters on this board, why should I know about the manager of an irrelevant shitter like Azki?

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>>15440371
>>15440480
>>15440500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A65XWJB7bjI

INNK manager. Actively fucked over Suisei when she was in the branch. One example is he promised her backing track for a cover and then ghosted her for three month. Almost made her graduate.
Did jack shit for AZKi herself, but she isn't public about it (for now).

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>>15438472
Witches aren't real.

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>>15441218
pogu

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>>15441191
He is going to join the new holostar and he WILL fuck suisei for real this time

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>>15441218
yagooyo....

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>>15440982
I hope this makes her happy but is going to be pain for her in the next months. If she goes like Irys, then at least she has a 3D model to do stuff while she waits for her songs.

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>>15441250
They are real they will be coming for your ass soon anon

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>>15441191
>Did jack shit for AZKi herself
This one is wrong, he moved all the funds for Suisei to Azki during her fer year and that's the reason she released a shitton of songs/did a lot of lives during her first year (2019). Didn't really help with her popularity though.

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Will there be more effort placed into putting her in the box or will it just be the same as always?

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>>15441191
Oh, him. Okay, so I'd heard some of this before but hadn't attributed it directly to him.
Okay, now to be fair there are some people who are subbed to her roommate's fanbox and indicate that the frog DID do a lot to help AZKi, but it sounds like the bloke himself knew he was a complete mess with certain things, hence the decision to quit and have AZKi moved over to Hololive proper since INNK's contract period was coming up due anyways.
Appropriate response is "Thanks for your hard work, don't let the door hit you on the way out for your fuckups".

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Number detectives, can I get a rough estimate on how illegal this is?

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1476036407538098177

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>>15441493
God, there's got to be no worse feeling than actually trying your hardest at your job and putting your all into it, and STILL genuinely not being any good at it in a way that actively hurts others.

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>>15441617
ILLEGAL/10
But no one's forcing anyone here, so if the deadbeats wanna go visit and save, then they're free to do so of their own accord.

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>>15441661
watame...

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Not necessarily numbers but this is interesting. It's about physical goods for nijien

Mysta
Vox
Selen
Pomu
Elira
Ike
Luca
Shu
Rosemi
Enna
Finana
Petra
Nina
Millie
Reimu
https://nijisanji-store.com/collections/first-step-goods/?sort_by=best-selling

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>>15441617
No, Mori, no. You're not supposed to send people with money to other companies...

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How is it going numberhoes?

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I always wondered just how obstructive the remaining Upd8 portion of INNK was considering AZKi seemed pretty limited in how she could interact with Hololive.

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>>15441800
Don't worry, she'll be in EN3 anyway.

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>>15441800
I mean, aside from her and kiara, EN seriously hates money so...

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>>15441617
explain

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>>15441800
She’s 100% going to apply for EN3
Mori tried to get her in for EN2

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>>15441872
That would be gross nepotism. Hololive is the best of the best, that's how people like Pekora, Korone, La+ etc get in.

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>>15441795
Why is Petra so high?

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I'm not really sure if there is a source for the Frog -actively- screwing Suisei over. But given how tight-lipped Suisei usually is, I found it really odd she would say out loud NDA prevents her from talking about some things. With the timing of that community post and this, the voices in my head conclude that hopefully Suisei has free rein to rant some time next year.

But yeah, the Frog's idea of debuting a new VSinger was to do a live concert before any streams if I recall correctly. Also I remember there being some rumours from the crowd that the merch, which included glasses of water among some actual merch, was unusually overpriced at that event and the JPs seem to have thought he tried too hard to become a new A-chan.

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>>15441863
he's reconnecting with his feral self

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>>15441940
Sorry Mori the only one who can get their friends in is Ina, so unless Milky wants to fuck one of the Holostars there is no hope

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>>15442056
Milky wants to fuck Connor, does that count?

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What's the projected debut date for the new Holostars/EN additions, based on past debuts?

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>>15442056
>the only one who can get their friends in is Ina

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>>15441864
INNK AND AZKI HAS always been owned 100% by cover. Upd8 was just some kind of agency cover hired/partnered with to co-managed Azki's activities. Same case as how nanashi let upd8 managed animare and HoneyStrap before she create 773 inc. to managed them herself after upd8 downfall

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Pakora is now Gura; her VOD views are still decent even though the CCV is trash. This is a sign that people are just dropping in to dislike the video or say some provoking shit in the chat and then immediately leave.

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>>15441966
What? In what world do you think 4th last is high?

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>>15442247
June-August.

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>>15442247
My guess is early Summer for EN3.
IRyS/Council got delayed a month due to Coco graduating.

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>>15442282
you wake up at 11am? that explains a lot

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>>15442286
Isn't she the least popular member after Reimu?

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>>15442007
>he tried too hard to become a new A-chan.
Why is everyone trying so hard to be A-chan?

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>>15442007
Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ87zuPkqMs

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>>15442280
upd8 is like MCN. they were trying to make money using the network that Kizuna AI built with her activities. cover and AZKi signed up to gain access to music producers and artists like cogecha.

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>>15441191
He also was also one of speakers for the first two Vtuber Music Awards (didn't participate in the latest one for some reason).
Also full results from the latest one were posted so here they are in case you've missed them (second sheet for the songs, third sheet for the mvs)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vF3Mj0BdzPcP1SaRYDcS3PJB70hilU6Dp0ty_Qp9kfQ/

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>>15442247
The new homos might debut on Q1

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>>15441795
I think it’s interesting that despite Nina being the top of Wave 3, she doesn’t sell as much merch as Petra or Enna.

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>>15442007
https://youtu.be/LZ87zuPkqMs
Around 9:50 you have the short edited version of how INNK and the frog made Suisei a living hell and even wanted to graduate before getting transfered to Hololive.
Frog was always more for AZKi only and when they brought Suisei, she was sided from the first month.

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>>15441863
>Namibia audiences are other animals
This is an untapped market. How Niji/Holo even compete...?

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>>15438864
This is literally the best thread in the board:

>faster than /vsinger/
>slower than /hlgg/
>can talk about anyone here (as long as it's numbers related)
>/biz/
>/news/
>/sp/
>we got schizos, but so do (You) so that evens out
>we actually watch streams

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>>15442418
No.

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>>15442007
It was never his fault. They only given enough resource to managed Azki. And suddenly cover throw in suisei in the mix without much explanation and hope it'd worked itself out. Azki support suisei a lot as suisei had said so herself but the condition at the time was just suck especially with how upd8 starting to falter (see >>15442441). Thank god for Mel to brought suisei to that legendary winter project collab, she started to gain traction, get closer with the girls since, and got reccomended into join the main branch.

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>>15442424
A-Chan is pretty loved among the Hololive members and the fanbase.
Omega trying to force himself as the A-Chan of HoloEN was pretty funny.
>>15442441
I’m guessing it was worth it in the end if they manage to retain some of those contacts?

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Okay /#/, time for you to play armchair manager like you've always wanted to.

Your goal is to scout the five best number generators possible for HoloEN's 3rd gen, not just for themselves as solo streamers but for the benefit of the branch as a whole. Your goal first and foremost is numbers, with the caveat that you don't want some yab machine who draws numbers solely by being a source of conflict and drama.

What are you looking for in your new gen first and foremost, and what are the biggest traps that a lesser manager than yourself would fall into?

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>>15442673
>>we actually watch streams
kek, some of the fags only watch numbers go up and down on hololyzer and live ranking.

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>>15442673
>spoiler
made me laugh, this is the same shit globalfags claim and just look at their absolute state

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>>15442805
>Your goal is to scout the five best number generators possible for HoloEN's 3rd gen
Impossible. History clearly shows that the best number generators are 2view and this thread doesn't follow 2view for obvious reasons.

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>>15442659
Do namibiafags even have income? What are they going to donate? Canned foods and chew bones?

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>>15442503
I was surprised to see Nina and Millie that below but then I remembered taxes and other things that would make it expensive for russians, flips and spics.

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>>15442762
Mel is too OP

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>>15442805
more tomboys.

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>>15442921
>this thread doesn't follow 2view for obvious reasons
Speak for yourself fag, I was at least aware of 3 of gen 6 before they joined Hololive and watched one of them ocassionaly

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>>15442673
>we actually watch streams
As long as its Hololive. I've never watched a single Nijishitty stream and I'm actually proud of that. Fuck that company.

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a random number learned today was in 2 days Amelia Watson got 666 members (new and renewed ones combined). Assuming its an even spread that'd be pretty close to 10000 members a month. Her Christmas poll had 4500 votes so with about near 50% participation that'd be a reasonable assumption.

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>>15442673
people keep saying its /hlg2/ when /hlg/ is now unrecognizable from the fun amalgamation of boards held together by the moderation standards of /jp/ it was back when the tourists were good and the only schizos were nijischizos

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>>15442805
get an old retired internet legend

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>>15442921
>>15443027
I don't do roommate shit, how many of Holo's members in the past few gens have been *true* 2views? Not the /#/ "they're a 2view because they're not getting 200+ CCV" warped version of a 2view, but a genuine sub-double-digit average 2view.

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>>15442424
Because presence affords them fame, and fame affords them command. It's basically a power trip move.

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>>15442805
>What are you looking for in your new gen first and foremost
People who actually want to stream
>what are the biggest traps that a lesser manager than yourself would fall into?
Not doing enough background research.

First thing I would've done as a EN manager is unironically asked Kson to debut as Coco Kaine.

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0TXe_LYZ4scaW2XMyi5_kw/community
Post on AZKi's channel
>DeepL
Why do you belong to HOLOLIVE?

Please refer to Tsuranimizu's note.
https://note.com/tsrnmz/n/ne76ba7bddb30

Please do not pry or speculate on reasons other than the above.
This is a request from me. I'd like to ask you for your cooperation.

What exactly is going to change?

With the end of the project as Inonaka Music
With the end of the project as Inonaka Music, Tsuranimizu's management and production is no longer in place.
I will be delivering music in a new way.

We are currently discussing with the music production department of Hololive
We are currently discussing with the music production department of Hololive to prepare for our new activities.
It may take some time, but
It may take some time, but we will do our best to deliver our music to you in a new way.

We are planning to transfer to Hololive in April 2022.
We are planning to transfer to Hololive in April 2022, and we will continue to provide the contents that we can deliver as Inonaka Music until March 31, 2022.
I will continue to provide the contents that I can deliver as Inonaka Music until March 31, 2022.

I will continue to do the activities that I can do on my own (Azukinchi).
I will continue to deliver the same content as always.
I hope you will continue to comment and support me as you have in the past.

To all the pioneers

The AZKi project was originally scheduled to end in July 2022.
In April 2021, I was brought to the Route Beta world line as a turning point for AZKi.

I myself am very sorry that things have turned out this way just as I am about to work hard on my activities.
Although it was Tsuranimizu's decision, the truth is that I feel very disappointed.

However, there is no change in the fact that I have the support of all the pioneers.
I really want to respond to their support.

I love to sing, even if it takes a different form.
I want to create the world together with everyone through music.
I want to keep my mind positive, share time and space with everyone, and deliver memorable music.

Thank you, pioneers, for your continued support.

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>>15442951
I think Cover got a fundamental piece on Mel at the same level as Sora, FBK or Aqua, because one way or another, it all comes back to her reaching people in and out of Hololive tha would be part of Hololive in the future.

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>>15442435
>>15442556
Anons, nowhere does it say he personally is responsible for everything and without rewatching it, the clipper himself notes that it might have been an issue of resources, like >>15442762 says. But people want to have someone to blame and he was very convenient. Reading Cometomo Twitter might prove interesting today, too bad I'm about to go to sleep so I can catch the AmongUs collab.

But Frog did do some dumb shit like forget (or "forget" if you want to believe) to retweet that time Suisei went to a karaoke collab as an INNK representative. Meanwhile A-chan and Yagoo did retweet that. Not a big thing, but that just looks ugly on the outside especially when there's been none of the promised song releases for Suisei but an album for AZKi.

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>>15443119
Sometimes I wonder how those old posters look back on the last couple years at the utter ruination of everything they espoused.

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>>15442792
All of HoloEN drank the /vt/ propaganda and hates him for no reason.

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>>15443119
>he bought into riku's organic meme
Kek the absolute state of nijinigger

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>>15443119
/hlg2/ is global. /hlg/ is now a go to place for people who got banned from /vt/.

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>>15443172
>>15442792
Unless they are competent and actually being helpfull to the girls, they'll never be relevant. Shinove is the only one good example of male A-chan, with his contribution and actually supportive towards stars incline and creativity.

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>>15443372
HoloEN members would know first hand if he actually does anything for them.
Never heard any of them compliment him in any way and the only thing I recall hearing that he did was trying to force FF14 down everyone’s throat.

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>>15442842
If anything, that's technically a stream so the argument holds water (if only for the wrong reasons).

>>15442868
Global from /jp/ used to watch streams, but mostly EN related. I don't know what they're even up to these days, since I left after summer hit and realized that they were never going to be anything other than HoloEN livechat for the most part. My oshi doesn't stand a chance in that kind of environment (she goes more talk about her here than there, I bet).

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on midtier news, ラミィ getting to the champion in a moment, broke 10k

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>>15443507
global is /MYTHgeneral/

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>>15443507
/hlg/ isn't bad when it's JST prime time, anyone who goes there during dead hours is a complete psychopath

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God, I've never seen Ame that low with a gaming stream, even while overlapping Gura.

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>>15442805
What to look for:
bad at math, but good at reading
Distinct and pleasant voice
No boyfriend for maximum gfe potential

Biggest traps:
10/10 doxx pics 0/10 personality
multi-lingual (jack of trades, master of none)

Unfortunate it's hard to filter a pile of 10k+ applications filled with shit. References will always play a big part though don't depend too much on it.

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>>15443623
Oblivion is a hard debuff game in case you didnt knew

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>>15443602
mumei and fauna have some "presence" in the threads but its mostly ritualposters. other 3 council are just ghosts unless streaming.

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>>15443690
>other 3 council are just ghosts unless streaming
not even that, they are ghosts even when streaming most of the time

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>>15443667
It never dropped below 3k.
I'm afraid for her future.

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>>15443755
bae and sana kind of, but Kronies oddly come out during her streams probably after theyve finished wanking in their thinly veiled erotica writing general.

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>>15443604
>anyone who goes there during dead hours is a complete psychopath
Burgers, mostly.

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>>15443784
Anon, ame does everything in her power to debuff herself tho not at the levels of sana, she gets the views nowadays in her "creative" projects or VR streams

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2nMpqwaPIM
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoynMroawZw
>niji NYE stream
gold, silver, bronze secured damn niji

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>>15443170
Chloe and Koyori averaged around 100 viewers, Laplus I don't have any data for but she had a similar number of subs as those two, Iroha and Lui had averages of 12 and 16 respectively, those were the real 2views. I don't know enough about other gens to say

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>>15443667
TES III could break 20k.

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>>15443885
What's the deal with her? Why is she spamming watchalongs and still plays Oblivion, she literally started it a year ago?

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>>15444003
I doubt it, but it could easily get that amount if it was a year ago when the "todd's games guarantee reaching 1M subs on stream" meme was alive

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>>15444021
Poorfag and 2view mentality

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>>15442941
I think that's because Ethyria spammed birthdays like there's no tomorrow. That might be the reason why Enna is higher (since hers is in February)

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wamy getting around 1k extra viewers for cynthia fight

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>>15443998
Gen 0-4 are mostly from NND so it'll be hard to get their numbers from back then. Polka was not a 2views and I don't know about Lamy's PL number.

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>>15444021
she used to do youtube react shit on twitch im pretty sure watchalongs are the only twitch react-like content she can really do as a Holo. Twitch react content while extremely low effort is fairly comfortable and fun sometimes for both viewer and host.

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>>15444270
I'm sure she can react to other holos if she wants. Honestly, that would probably be a decent series.

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>>15442805
>someone that NEEDS to be saved
not like the council whores that already have their life solved and don't care if they are successful

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>>15444329
a couple of holos do that in a way for their morning shows, i thought watson already tried something like that?

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https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34892297
Also found when I was researching.... huh, apparently this happened

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>>15443998
Yeah, that sounds more accurate. A triple-digit chuuba is "2view" in relation to the major corporations (and the numbers these threads deal in), sure, but 98% of vtubers out there are *genuine* 2views who *maybe* get into the mid-teens for CCV if they're lucky.

A triple-digit indie or small corpo chuuba is still in the upper echelon of vtubing relative to the industry as a whole.

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lamy is so slow at playing pokemon that she's accidentally milking the champion fight, at 11.5k

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>>15444368
>i thought watson already tried something like that?
only for the new years costumes from last year

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>>15444368
She did but because there's a lot of effort doing the content to everyone to watch, she just left it.

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>>15444433
is this gozaru?

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>>15442805
EN focus should be on reducing dead hours and focusing on timezones but whatever I'll play your game.

Want numbers? Lewd character design and concept with a smidge of lore to bait fanartists and to sell merch.
Funny girls to bait clipfags
Gfe to bait gachikoi
Deep sultry voices to get strong numbers with minimal effort.

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>>15444368
She gave up on the show, for one reason or another (perhaps her members have more insight as to why).
Ame is absolutely horrid with committing and following through with shit, as an outsider looking in, between tossing the fish bowl, that morning show, her projects she promised for her charity drive, minecraft stuff etc. (Don't crucify me if she IS working on this stuff, I just call it as I see it as an outsider).
Like, it looks like I'm looking at George RR martin in vtuber form at times when it comes to Ame.

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>>15444676
only reasons I can see why was because the show she was attempt to succeed (asacoco) was being made again by kson as GMMF although that didnt last long in the end, plus im pretty sure she said she just didnt like being bound to doing that as a weekly project since she wants to do other projects.

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>>15444676
>Ame is absolutely horrid with committing and following through with shit
She sure as hell committed and following through with this year-long Oblivion playthrough.

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>>15444825
In other words...she hates being forced to commit to something that both requires constant effort and discipline (Okay maybe not the most charitable interpretation, but it really does seem to be a thing Ame seems to struggle with)/

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>>15442805
The first thing that I would do is change the contract terms to require a minimum of content time as opposed to deliveries. I'm not even going to be excessive about it. Considering that most people stream 2-4 hours per stream and usually stream a minimum of thrice per week, I'd set the contract to have three paths:

>Singer contract: deliver a minimum of 8 hours worth of content + music uploads monthly
>Variety contract: deliver a minimum of 12 hours worth of content
>Gamer contract: deliver a minimum of 16 hours worth of content, primarily video games related
Some people just don't have the talent for either gaming or singing, so giving them a nudge into what is expected of their duties will help them with carving a path in the future. If it doesn't pan out, just let them change the terms of the contract at least once with minimal issue.

>What are you looking for in your new gen first and foremost
Work ethic. Show me that you can deliver content in a consistent, repeatable manner. Never mind the YT algorithm, humans are very receptive to pattern recognition and tend to operate based on that. A mediocre streamer that delivers content consistently is more valuable to me than an unpredictable mess of a talent that could very well be a diamond (unless their talent more than makes up for their lack of work ethic).

>and what are the biggest traps that a lesser manager than yourself would fall into?
Vouching. Anyone that issues a recommendation for a talent that ends up becoming a dud will forever lose the ability to vouch in my eyes. Whoever suggested Sana be given a slot in Hololive should never be trusted with another recommendation ever again.

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>>15444538
I couldn't possibly tell you that and potentially break rule 1, but you should trust your ears anon

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>>15444892
ive been watching her since debut and thats kind of spot on, she rarely does something twice if it requires some amount of effort, she does like to put it in when its a one off project or a simple one to set up though.

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>>15444368
Those morning shows take a lot of work since you'd need to find clippable moments, get permission from the chuuba, your manager, and their managers to show it, edit those clips, and wake up early enough to do it. Sometimes the clips you present is misconstrued by schizo so now you have to do damage control tweets, so the payout isn't as good relative to the amount of work you put in.

[Anonymous No.]

wamy beat the champion through the power of bullshit, peaked at 12.5K

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>>15444473
>>15445050
how the fuck she won that shit with multiple self destruct
wtf am I watching?
that was miko level of bullshit

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>>15445050
Define bullshit, because I'm too busy watching Gura to have checked what Lamy did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15445154
aren't friendship mechanics fair and balanced? i mean, thats what gamefreak thinks, since they are forced now :^)

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>>15444538
>>15444940
No. They don't even sound the same.
Source: my ears

[Anonymous No.]

>>15440500
>frog
The one who made this

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>>15445050
>>15445213
I normally don't watch Lamy. Do I have to watch this particular stream to believe it? Is it entertaining?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15445213
she had a golem that resisted 2 hits cause of friendship+sturdy, so she was able to revive one of her other 5 fainted pokes and pull off a self destruct
it was beautiful and absolutely bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

IOFI AND CHOCO WILL OVERLAPPING WATAME 3D LIVE!
I GET IOFI, BUT CHOCO??????

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>>15445276
That looks like a fooking maymay

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>>15445243
That's her for sure, she has a very distinct voice

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>>15445314
>Iofi
? Her stream starts an hour after, unless I'm looking at the wrong place
>Choco
She's collabing with Debi, so probably a scheduling thing.

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>>15443624
You forgot another bad one:
No self-debuff-ers

As in:
Talents that hide or sandbag their own skills
Downplay their own achievement
Obscure the sex appeal of their own character design, or just the appeal in general
Listening to senpai telling you to take breaks during the crucial honeymoon phase
Being cynical of vtubing or idols as a whole

Those are some examples, I hope you get the point. Self-debuff is 2-view mentality. They don't belong in a business trying to make money.

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>>15445278
>gen 5
>entertaining
Barely able to break 10k even with Pokemon buff should tell you how bad the stream is

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>>15445286
>>15445214
Friendship mechanic bullshit. Sigh, well, I guess that's one way to cheese out wins you have no right winning, but dang, what a way to win.

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>>15445433
I don't know about you, but from a numbers perspective, the ideal audience size is between 6k and 12k, where the audience is large enough to not make people feel like groomers and small enough that chat moves consistently for streamer interaction.

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>>15445314
Iofi isn't overlapping but if she did this would be the one case where people would get mad considering how many times Watame collabed with her trying to saviorfag her sorry ass

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>>15443170
almost every good JP hire was a known NND/other platform streamer, a nepotism hire (usually via NND), scouted or some combo of all of the above
i think only subaru was a nobody/literal 2view

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>>15445578
No, from a numbers perspective bigger = better
>>15445627
That explains why JP gen 5 have been so terrible compared to the other gens

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>>15445627
the only newbies so far are like subaru, nene, and mori I believe

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>>15445578
Bigger numbers are better. Always.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, was INNK a label just for Azki or something? The reason why Holos can't be signed to them? Isn't INNK under cover too?

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>>15445721
Oh please. Gen 4 is as terrible if not for Coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15445977
INNK had a complicated business structure. Just read up.

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>>15445977
INNK is under holopro too
basically it's run by the frog and the frog is too busy to sign anyone else other than AZKi. he said it himself that he's the bottleneck and holding AZKi back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15445752
Nah Nene was a (very minor) chuuba before. Actually it's kind of amazing how many of Gen 3 and 5 especially were 2view vtubers as well as NND streamers

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>>15445977 (me)
>>15446038
Damn, I found out that INNK is a join venture between upd8 and Cover. Despite upd8 dissolving, the contract still went on and Azki had to wait until it expires before moving to Hololive. So after the project expires, either INNK be removed completely or join Hololive to be their personal label?

>>15446057
>too busy to sign anyone else other than AZKi
Wew so that's why it can't be its own kamitsubaki and sign other singers, because of a contract

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>>15445418
Self-debuff is bad, but not a career killer. Substituting skills (singing, gaming, non-native language) for lacks of personality is the biggest trap. Streaming is about spending time with your audience. Your skills can attract tourists, but they won't be regulars if you have no charisma.

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>>15443755
>>15443840
Bae gets massive presence whenever she streaming. Kronii technically does too but they prefer to keep their generals

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Reminder that isegye not only found success leeching off from Hololive but also, being funny and cute at the same time. I doubt nijiKR could've done the same with their management like this.
https://youtu.be/OTkFJyn4mvc?t=192

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>>15446136
I’m guessing the assets of INNK will be absorbed into Hololive which would be best case scenario (two studios to use along with staff).

[Anonymous No.]

they are gura tier now jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>Gura is doing superchat readings with scs on
Is she learning?

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>>15446421
Haven't seen them get 100k+ ccv though

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>>15446421
She was collabing with Ludwig of all people (and still couldn't get close to her max CCV which was when she collabed with Mori)

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>>15445627
kek Subaru and Korone had never strramed before Hololive iirc, and look where they are now

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>>15446417
If they still have a contract with udp8 and upd8 is kill then what happens to those assets? Does Cover actually own all those assets? Can Cover reacquire those assets if they don;t?

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>>15446458
Once a month or so she actually tries to get SCs and always does very well, then from the next stream it's back to normal

[Anonymous No.]

>>15446508
>korone never streamed before
newfagchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15446475
Try 30k

[Anonymous No.]

>>15446508
>Korone had never strramed before Hololive
lol

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>>15446348
they are inclining

Isegye idol

October median
>Gosegu 2,635
>Jururu 2,389
>Ine 2,114
>Viichan 2,010
>Jingburger 1,847
>Lilpa 1,805

November median
>Ine 2,735
>Lilpa 2,338
>Jururu 2,325
>Viichan 2,209
>Gosegu 1,860
>Jingburger 1,777

December median
>Jururu 4,112
>Gosegu 3,601
>Viichan 3,486
>Lilpa 3,454
>Ine 3,398
>Jingburger 2,773

[Anonymous No.]

>>15446346
90% of that is just Baeschizo shitting up /hlgg/ cause he gets an absurd amount of (You)s.

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>>15446164
>Substituting skills (singing, gaming, non-native language) for lacks of personality is the biggest trap.
Anon, those aren't mutually exclusive and no one does that intentionally. The problem with it is that you have to depend on people that may not have the ability to tell if a person has a personality that goes in line with what the organization does until they interact with them for a period of time (usually long).

>Your skills can attract tourists, but they won't be regulars if you have no charisma.
Interestingly, in the entertainment industry, you can make up for lack of charisma with overwhelming talent, but the problem is that the people with overwhelming talent already have access to the real deal entertainment industry or are already very well off as independents and joining an agency like Hololive would pretty much be of negligible benefits (if not an outright downgrade).

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>>15443840
>their thinly veiled erotica writing general.
Wait... what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15446647
first song achievement.
>12월 25일 오후 5시 16분경에 유튜브 조회수 100만을 달성하였다.
1m = Isegye idol - Re:wind - 3 days (17h 15m)

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>>15446769
/infinity/ instead of your average oshi split is more like a writefag general, there's even a google docs of all the fics they wrote

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>>15446522
If what the anon earlier said was true, they mostly relied on Upd8 for their industry contacts and concerts.
Activ8 is mostly just the Kizuna Ai company these days anyways so I wouldn’t be surprised that even if they did own the assets that they would want to sell it to Cover.

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>>15446833
If the rrat is that she's /here/ is true I can see why she hates her fans and doesn't want to stream to them.

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>>15446421
Do they consistently stream to more than 15k people or are you just jacking off to a one-off?

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i wonder if belle delphine wishes she could go back in time and not do porn so she could be a nepotism hire

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>>15446895
Is more likely to be true, since the schizo post she ended up responding was supposed to be sent to her for a Q&A stream but the anon who wrote it didnt sent it and instead posted it on global

[Anonymous No.]

So i got recomended this vtuber news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTRe5Oxgo60


ignore other shit other than first news, well how do you think /#/ bros?

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>>15446908
cope. theyve been inclining since that mizkif collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15446964
proofs?
>>15446936
I'm sure she's fine, she's made tons of money

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>>15447189
>cope
ESL-kun, learn what the word means before you go throwing it at others wantonly. It makes people think you're a retard.

>inclining
So not quite there yet, then.

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>>15446126
>Nah Nene was a (very minor) chuuba before.
huh? first time i hear that. are you mixing up being a(smalltime) idol with being a chuuba?

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>>15446936
VShojo would hire her, no problem.

[Anonymous No.]

HoloTwitch will be a thing and they will be despised by the entire vtweeting community and 99% of twitch vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15446421
It was a mistake for Omega to approve the collabs and gave them the attention. He won't make the same mistakes twice with Niji En.

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>>15447533
What do you mean by this?

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>>15447533
good

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>>15447533
>implying they want the attention of the pre-debut pronouns on bio people

[Anonymous No.]

>>15447604
It'd hurt Hololive's image to butt into the scene and probably gobble up a big viewer base. Probably subs galore and a few 100k debuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15447533
And they'll still handily mog them anyways, because that's how hololive rolls

[Anonymous No.]

>>15447817
oh nyo, they are going to steal 2 viewers from me~

[Anonymous No.]

>>15447189
Those averages look ok but remember you have to disregard peaks when it comes to twitch because of raids.

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>>15446421
Now that Vshojo are consistently collabing with the top English language streamers they are probably always going to get better numbers than all of HoloEN.

[Anonymous No.]

I didn't look at the numbers but I'm guessing the NijiEN collab really underperformed? The Nijinigger schizo always pivots to Vshojo to shit on Hololive whenever Niji gets shit numbers.

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>>15448116
Yes

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>>15447189
>Iron, Vei and the evil pink cat
Yawn, the same 3 sluts that have been carrying vshojo on Twitch.
Call me when is any of the other ones.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/f1ytf3MwERs
And she is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448116
they were all below Ame with Oblivion

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>>15448202
some indie drama?

[Anonymous No.]

>regular ass stream
>Not even high viewership
But
>Doesn't close SC at the end
>Reads SC for a while
She could be so much stronger if she cared about numbers but she even admitted this stream that she didn't even want to be big, she just does what she likes. She did say the large audience makes her want to do more experimental stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448116
It did not. Everyone got good views for it besides Reimu. Selen was the most buffed one by it because it's a BR like APEX.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448202
https://twitter.com/Lapis_Cielo/status/1475783721341288454
https://twitter.com/Lapis_Cielo/status/1475783746112884739

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448205
I guess the guys are just meh outside of SEA time. There isn't a massive market for lads outside of Asia. Makes sense, I appreciated their game choices and seemingly trying to get a male audience.

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>>15448202
>>15448344

explain

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>>15442805
The most important thing is to get people with ambition, who actively want to be full time vtubers and make it their career, who enjoy Hololive as fans and want to advance it's popularity in the west. Without that nothing else matters. Council was a huge mistake because while they do have some amount of talent none of them have the ambition to go all out and are content to coast. They're acting like regular employees who clock in, then clock out and you really can't do that as an entertainer.

Basically just get people who will do what HoloX did but who speak English. Council fucked up because they actively sabotaged themselves and a couple of them like Sana and Kronii seem to outright hate success and do what they can to slow their growth which is utterly retarded

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>>15444921
>Whoever suggested Sana be given a slot in Hololive should never be trusted with another recommendation ever again.
Ina...

But yeah Sana was a mistake. I'm not even sure she knows why she joined Hololive in the first place other than to do astrology streams.

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>>15448116
Selen topped at just over 3.5k, Vox just above 3k, Shu managed 1.6k and Reimu got like 900. So middling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448263
it really does make me wonder what her numbers would be if she truly cared about numbers since she's already a contender for top English female streamers since the only other one who gets close is pokimane as they have similar averages

[Anonymous No.]

/#/ brosc are we back to 30k is actually gold contender or still on absurd number?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448263
>she didn't even want to be big
>want to experiment with feet stream
sure gura

[Anonymous No.]

Is Gura declining?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448488
She told her audience that she just wants to do whatever, prove that there's more to herself than drawing, and have fun. Which is why she barely ever does drawing streams. Tbh, a pretty dumb reasoning when it's highly likely that you auditioned mainly using your drawing skills in the first place, but who am I to judge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448498
>Selen topped at just over 3.5k, Vox just above 3k
Those are good NijiEN numbers though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448579
Are you referring to a "return to mean" scenario? we will know after New Years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448697
Nijicope

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>>15448697
For Vox and Shu it's a little under their average, but it's because they don't have a big burger fanbase in comparison to their chink/SEA one.

[Anonymous No.]

Watching the numbers grow as Koyori struggles with her uphill battle of jumping sure is interesting. Japanese sure a weird as an audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448829
In non vtuber streaming it is generally accepted that you will slowly gain viewers the longer your stream is on as long and often will quit at peak viewership unless theres some aspect where people leave after you reveal something or reach a certain point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448654
I would say she's stable

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>>15448694
I feel like that would be a better attitude for an indie. Joining the biggest vtuber group in the world and squandering a position to "have fun" rather than push your own limits is to me disrespectful. Both to the people she beat to the spot and also to the rest of Hololive since they're all working as a team to make it more popular. If you don't want to put in effort to actually help the business why bother joining in the first place?

The Orca is transparently money hungry and I have far more respect for her utilizing her opportunity to the fullest than I do Sana who basically joined as a bit of a joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448938
you could literally draw a straight line through that

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448938
That's VOD views not CCV though? As a streamer she's definitely on the decline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449012
how? they are being paid by views, not by CCV, this is not twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449023
He's starting a timeloop that's how

[Anonymous No.]

>>15447533
>spend what was probably a shitload of cash to formally buy azki
>move to a platform that won't let them keep music
Among the most delusional posters are the moving to twitch posters

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448938
She's hitting some all-time lows there and the peaks this year were because of songs and outfits which she didn't get before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448941
Sana joined because she saw what her friend in a similar career path was doing and viewed it as a fun side gig rather than an actual commitment.

I mean, if she's having fun, then whatever, it seems like she couldn't care less. But I do agree that it's a wasted opportunity for someone who really wants to do vtubing as their primary focus and core career.

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>>15448488
Y'know, everyone keeps repeating "Ina's nepotism," but has anyone ever actually put meat on this rrat? Even an offhanded comment? Because using ol Occam's says Omega was probably fishing for another Ina, and Sana's CV lined up pretty closely.

I mean, can you find me a third EN professional artist with a substantial portfolio in east asian media, at least a passing interest in being a Vtuber, and is also female?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448013
Well, hope that their numbers are consistent, her collab with Mori is still higher than her collab with ludwig Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449086
There are 50+ hololivers, you can afford to put a few on twitch or just get some new ones. Just ask and Cover will get 10k applications thrown at them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15444921
>music uploads monthly
For hololive, Suisei is the music vtuber but even she can just barely stick to her monthly cover upload challenge for the year. It's doable, yes, but that would mean stifling their streaming and other stuff for popularity. Let's be honest, only Suisei can pull that off

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449023
She's still a streamer and the metric of success for a live streamer is how many people you can get watching while you're live. If we measure Gura by VODs then she's even worse off because in comparison to other Youtube content creators who get more people watching their content than subscribers Gura only has 20% engagement on her videos which is awful for a youtube content creator.

Measuring by VOD views doesn't save Gura, it just places her in a much larger pool where her numbers are even shittier against bigger competition. You're much better off just accepting she's a streamer than putting her up against the likes of reaction tubers who get millions of views.

[Anonymous No.]

Koyori broke 10k with her endurance JK now that people are realizing she's near the end

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449201
People are priming their superchat buttons

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449197
wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449197
Good thing this is a vtuber board and we compare her against other vtubers instead of normie garbage. When compared to other vtubers her VOD views are phenomenal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449197
I swear to god if any of you niggers entertain this retard and start another "ccvs don't count because twitch doesn't have them" timeloop I'm starting a bunker thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449201
She'll fuck it up. She's such a shortbus rider. People will throw supas at her just to not hear "Koyorin~" for the rest of their lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449266
well anon? make that bunker thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449233
Champions club, we got too cocky...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449201
こよりん~
こよりん~
こよりん~
あれ!? なんで?! バカ!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449261
3 mil subs. So that should be a given

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449233
>VERY LOW
Point proven. Good views for VODs are at the very least 80% of sub count, and most large channels exceed their sub count on views on every video.

>>15449266
>N-No you can't use CCV, we use VOD views because they're what matter!
>N-No you can't compare her VOD views to other content creators because that's unfair!
Give it up chumcuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449233
the two time...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449347
give me a vtuber who doesn't have a "very low" ratio, I'll wait

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449347
>80 percent

literally completely wrong and every channel above a million subs is lucky to get 30

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449347
nijisisters... not like this...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449304
Way ahead of you

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449347
>most large channels exceed their sub count on views on every video
>>>/t/iktok

[Anonymous No.]

TOWA FUNNELED VIEWERS, THAT'S ILLEGAL

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449412
It's actually dumb that playboard has this views/sub ratio when different types of channels have different outcomes to compare.

[Anonymous No.]

since you guys like numbers so much, someone count how many times koyori says koyorin this stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449378
They all do because they're streamers and not youtube content creators so it's silly to compare them on VOD views. We use CCV instead because that's fair. But if chumcucks insist on pitting Gura against traditional content creators by using VOD views then we have no choice but to compare her on that basis.

A reasonable person would see that since all vtubers have "very low" VOD views in comparison to sub count that they're not to be compared on that basis, but chumcucks need to cope over the fact Gura is reclining as a streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449472
>It's actually dumb that playboard
Playboard is actually dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449531
damn, backpedaling and deflecting on the same post, impressive

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449196
That's exactly why I wrote it the way that I wrote it. A Vsinger needs to know, understand and be committed to that type of work to make it work. IRyS is a Vsinger mostly in name only, while Suisei is out there challenging herself to produce music consistently. Mori is also on this camp, although she streams a lot too.

So a potential vsinger needs to stream regularly and consistently enough but not so much that it would interfere with your duties as a music focused talent. This is also a challenge that Cover management that need to solve for themselves, they created a position without a proper workflow/pipeline that would enable such a talent to develop healthily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449387

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>>15449531
it's not my fault that nijiniggers are only popular in the monkey islands seachama

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449531
No you retard the english audience is spread across 80 percent of the earth's mass and interested parties will watch the full vod while JOPs who live in one tiny sliver will watch at one time. Gura simply has more human eyeballs on her then Pekora, it is just the facts and it is remarkable Pekora despite being a JOP (although she does dumb down herself to be EOP friendly) even competes with her but in the end the numbers do not support your brain rot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449100
Saruei?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449558
>Backpedaling
My position is the same as it has always been. Using VOD views as a metric to compare streamers is stupid because that's not what they're optimizing for and clearly not what they're aiming for. I'm just showing why it's stupid to use a metric that streamers do poorly on the compare them among themselves rather than the metric they're targeting which is concurrent live viewers.

Treating streamers like traditional youtube content creators and measuring them on that basis is stupid and I'm showing you why that's the case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449590
Illegal algo funneling by youtube for their pet political issues, in fact the rise of Hasan, that guy, destiny etc are all giga boosted by googles social engineering. And these are channels that make one heavily edited video every few months not daily posters, you cant produce a single daily poster fitting your profile.

[Anonymous No.]

http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/210827

Nature is healing.

[Anonymous No.]

>2021 views

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449590
harris makes like a video a year, maybe 2 if youre lucky, and they usually are like an hour and half+ each, dunno if he's the greatest point of comparison for average youtubers
>>15449696
touch grass

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449590
>politishit retard
>one video every 4 months

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449685
So, this way Gura is still above 90% of other vtubers, damn, this makes her pretty successful imo

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449712
>all those chicken posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>15446549
>>15446578
wtf, why was her debut so scuffed then

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449763
because she's old anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449763
She wasn't popular and kinda ugly

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449712
basedbasedbased

Pakora BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449763
she wasnt a GOOD streamer before and also debuted back in the old times when there wasnt more or less a template for retards to follow

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449851
>all these Pekora antis are foxfuckers
I see how it is now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449753
>Every single vtuber is "very low" on VOD views
>Clearly this is a metric they're optimizing for and the basis which we should compare them!
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449867
Were you fucking dead the past 3 days?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449347
>>15449387
Amazing how both of you can be wrong.
MrBeast, 83%
LinusTechTips, 10%
Dream, 149%
SSSniperWolf, 19%
AuronPlay, 51%
Justin Bieber, 8%
Logan Paul, 36%
jacksepticee, 7%
Ludwig, 22%
Pokimane, 8%
Michael Reeves, 155%

It's a garbage metric that tells you very little.

[Anonymous No.]

>virtual youtubers
>have other content like shorts, clips and cover songs
>nope vod views don't count

Sounds so ridiculous, might as well tell the numberfags here to not numberfag songs too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449857
To be fair her Korone act wouldn't work on her real self at all, if someone see an old woman acting like that they'll feel disgust.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449882
Gura has
>the most subs
>healthy CCV putting her in the top 10 in the company
>healthy view/subscriber ratio above most vtubers
>top 20 worldwide in SC rankings
>2nd biggest solo event in vtuber history (1st place is Coco's graduation)
what else she needs to optimize?

[Anonymous No.]

December median update. Toya still leading
>Toya 34,469
>Ayame 33,838
>Fubuki 32,860
>Pekora 30,619
>Marine 24,706

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449937
>view/sub ratio
Anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449965
the one you are complaining is not a valid metric, maybe you should do your memory reps or you are going to have alzheimer before 30

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449598
King of amazing that Nijisanji directs all of their events to the main channel while Hololive keeps them on the talents channel. Yet the Hololive official channel still absolutely mogs the shit out of the Nijisanji official channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449947
GOD-EMPEROR TOYA. I KNEEL MY EMPEROR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449937
>the most subs
This is good but only in so far as those subs are still engaging with the content. Kizuna AI has over a million more subscribers than Pekora or Marine but we can easily see that Pekora and Marine are MUCH more popular currently.

>healthy CCV putting her in the top 10 in the company
In comparison to the above being "top 10" when you have double the subs of the next highest Holo starts to make it look like Gura is on the Kizuna AI curve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450011
Oh so pointing out an obviously wrong metric to list out (stated wrong even) is my fault?
Okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449559
get suisei manager to manage IRyS, what went through her manager head greenlighting IRyS long ass and frequent stream, i get it she need to build fan base but fucking up her throat in the process like what sui went through is no good

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450030
stop this timeloop again, Gura has higher views per day the channel is active then Pekora, I didn't bother to calculate for the older people with overall more views but she is top 5 in terms of views per day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450030
>this is good but only in so far as those subs are still engaging with the content
this is what the view/sub ratio is for friend! do some math, not meth!

[Anonymous No.]

Early to mid December was the hieght of Hololive's power. They will never see that again. As a trans person I think the peak has been hit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449904
how about instead of comparing vtubers to some of the literal most popular channels on the platform and musicians you find some 1-4 mil sub channels that upload multiple videos a week
LTT is the only name there that is even close to fulfilling that requirement, and it has 10m+ subs and an entire company producing those videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450153
Oh, this is a good post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450135
You know, activity matters and we're not weighing the best pound for pound streamer, we are measuring the best streamer. That is straight up ratio NijiEN logic saying Gura does good for her output.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450153
why add the second bait, it makes it too obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450187
Yes and when averaged across the entire career Gura beats Pekora, the metric of total views/days since debut aggregates the interest in the tuber overall and at current and tracking this number over time will be a very accurate measure of health and growth. In fact I will start charting this tomorrow and shilling to to gas rats who keep concern trolling about different metrics for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450236
>views/day since debut
I dont want to trample onto your CCV vs VOD bullshit but that couldn't be a more obvious nitpick.
Do the past 30 days or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450236
Pekora was part of a middling vtuber company for much of her early career, Gura was standing(now sitting) on the shoulders of giants. Pekora had to start with a 3 digit CCV, Gura got 30k+ starting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450135
It's hilarious how we get people pointing out that lower content inflates view count
>>15449742
>>15449747

and then the chumbuds snap right back to claiming that we should compare Gura on a per video basis. You're hopeless. Gura doesn't get extra credit for being lazy and creating less content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450236
>Pekora
30 times her first month.
>Gura
50% less than her first month.

I can really see who inclined and gain interest.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you people bite bait?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450360
>Gura doesn't get extra credit for being lazy and creating less content.
It's ratio coping. That's what everyone does when they can't actually compete.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450322
>>15450329
>>15450360
>>15450382


Obviously it will be biased against older vtubers a bit, ill calculate both 30 day and career tomorrow, the problem with 30 day is tubers go on inclines and declines in months rather radically preventing useful data. If you want to keep shitposting about pekkers vs gura then just figure out total views for the year alone, the number may surprise you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450383
i have literally nothing else to do with my life

[Anonymous No.]

>>15448941
anon, I don't know what you think hololive is, but most of the talents aren't there to help the business grow and become more popular as a core goal. It just so happens that pretty much everyone's individual goal is able to be helped by being in hololive and that their individual goals also line up with helping hololive grow as a whole, we even have evidence of when these goals are not aligned with Coco. The funniest thing is that the Orca is helping hololive less than Sana is since Sana is actually doing commissioned work for them while Chloe is using the hololive platform to farm superchats. Sure, she's helping cover earn some cash, but they don't need that cash for their growth and she's doing jack shit in helping the other members so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450236
>Gura beats Pekora if we average out their numbers since debut and ignore the fact Hololive was 10x more popular when Gura joined than when Pekora joined
We're reaching cope levels that shouldn't even be possible. This is Enron levels of cooking the books to try and help Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450408
>a bit
You mean substantially. Pekora was not even 5 digits for a long time.

[Anonymous No.]

is this gozaru's first mc stream? why is she wasting the buff doing ssp creative, thats usually like the worst performing streams for like mc youtubers/streamers

[Anonymous No.]

Last 30 days gura was 12 million views, pekora 15 million wow lazy shark is really getting mogged it guess its over

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450504
You are in for a disappointment if you think Pakora will maintain her views. The only reason she's still getting decent VOD views is because people are dropping by on her streams to shit on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449466
fuck that took me a distressingly long time to figure out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450424
Cope, Gura is talented enough to leverage that increased brand popularity while others couldn't, just look at the shit tier gen 5 that debuted merely a month before Myth but got left in the trash, just because Gura debuted later doesn't mean she's any less legendary for what she's achieved

[Anonymous No.]

>Sure, she's helping cover earn some cash, but they don't need that cash for their growth and she's doing jack shit in helping the other members so far.
What in the actual fuck am I reading. Is this nigger as retarded as his favorite niggress?

[Anonymous No.]

223 million views for pekora 2021
162 million views for gura 2021

was it really so hard to find the number instead of just writing autistic essays. Probably once EN get some 3d and actual support from COVER along with pakora decline they may match up in 2022 but peko is king for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450683
I legit thought that was a bait post...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449712
wow, it's the same as the baiting faggots here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450657
The ones that helped Hololive explode before EN was a thing had absolutely nothing to do with gen 5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450421
I really don't think Cover needs Sana as an artist. They pay her for her work anyway so it's not like they're saving money.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/nicogame_PR/status/1476086423107567616

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450757
Hololive exploding in popularity doesn't mean shit if you don't have the one in a million talent to make use of it you coping dogfucker, just look at all the other chuubas that debuted before and after Gura and how none of them can even compare. Gura made hololive even more popular than before and none of EN2, ID2 or JP6 are even close to matching her in performance either

[Anonymous No.]

is cover botting the sharts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450833
>that line up
Shion wins lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450833
kazamairohach...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450833
jesus what a bad selection
shion wins btw

[Anonymous No.]

are the shizos fusing together or was it always just one retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449626
DESU I'd love her to be in EN3 but she probably doesn't have any reason too (other than she herself is a fan, at least drew holos a couple of times)

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450917
one retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450473
She's plotting out a build for the holoserver and isn't too sure if it'll even work on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450917
It's always one retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450838
>none of EN2, ID2 or JP6 are even close to matching her in performance either
That's a demerit. Her senpais pushed thier juniors to the top every time. Gura shoves them to the bottom. She didn't make the brand, she helped its decline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15438472
Which site shows hours streamed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450768
Sure they don't. Still doesn't mean they aren't using her to help the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450020
Hologra helps a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450833
NND HATE

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450768
having an artist available is really good. Just like wiht the tapersty and other expo goods having an artsit under the name of holo really helps the marketing. HOWEVER people need to be reminded that ina is a graphics designer not just an artist. And the skills invovled on that are different than Ina hence why ina asked for her help with her cover.

Anyway there wont be huge numbers individually until the girls try the next big game, the MC server get udpated and everyone gets back on it.
ON TOPIC OF NUMBERS rather than roleplay as the ceo of niji or hololive i see the NijiEn boys doing clips of their streams in their own channel. You think this is a good idea? i see that no top streamer on youtube leaves the vods or the clips visible at the same time, they usually opt for one or another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451061
>sana is a graphics designer

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451061
The top EN streamers are under the impression editing down their VODs/ clipshowing yesterdays vods and hiding the stream improves engagement. As far as I am concerned they are all experimenting and throwing whale bones around and we dont if it effects anything at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451088
She's actually, she worked on Kiara's announcement for her Hinotori celebration

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451061
>ON TOPIC OF NUMBERS rather than roleplay as the ceo of niji or hololive i see the NijiEn boys doing clips of their streams in their own channel. You think this is a good idea? i see that no top streamer on youtube leaves the vods or the clips visible at the same time, they usually opt for one or another.
That should have been standard fare ever since Hololive English was founded. There is a reason why clippers became such a huge thing in the first place. While clippers help constantly feed the algorithm, they do so at the expense of of the girls who lose potential audience that they themselves could have if they had bothered to do their own clips/reels in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450683
Do you not know that cover has loads of cash, enough that they're just throwing it away on holoalt/metaverse stuff so the cut from Chloe's SCs don't actually help them grow the company any? She will be helping the company grow once C99 and the pokemon tournament happens and cover use her image for more promotional activities but currently she's not helping any member incline, she's not expanding cover's business reach, all she's doing is earning them some money they don't need.

[Anonymous No.]

Will this be the first month of 2021 that Pekora isn't #1 in hours watched? She was so close to a clean sweep

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451290
>expanding the company
Neither is Sana, being a record breaking SC getter making vtubing headlines like Chloe will gain hololive even more free publicity than... whatever Sana does. Which seems to be limited to doing in-house what Cover could also get done elsewhere with their "loads of cash" so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451233
it depends
the reason they opt for doing clips and hide the vod is that is easier to hold retention on users on clips and not tank the metrics of all the channel when leaving the vod public.
Hololive has made a culture of vods and streamwatchers so making a clip of each stream on the channel could bring people that will watch the clip but not watch the streams and that could hurt the channel.
https://youtu.be/uXg2UQMXTh8?t=3611

Like one clipa week should be fine but it should stay separated or be a totally complete differnt thing like what marine does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451290
Your own argument could be used against you. Sana could have simply not be hired as a holomember, but as an internally contracted artist. Cover of today can afford to pay an artist artist salaries for that. Sana the holomember is, essentially, a non entity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451403
>whatever Sana does
Taking a whole month break for a dead dog also make the headlines anon

[Anonymous No.]

>be an deluded, obsessed schizo
>spend your day sneeding at a woman pretending to be an anime girl over a few digits here and there

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451476
>making a clip of each stream on the channel could bring people that will watch the clip but not watch the streams and that could hurt the channel.
Anon, this is already happening with third party clips. So why bother letting others take your revenue when you can make it yourself? The stream vs clip problem can be solved by simply giving the audience more incentive to watch live. But can the talent even manage this simple task? Who knows?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451512
True, and it could actually have been great if it had led to a good return stream like Miko's that elevated the profile of the entire branch instead of just reappearing one day with all the excitement and bombast of a little wet fart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451512
It gets your talents branded as lazy. By itself it's not that bad, but remember what was the complaint Nijifags had about their chuubas before the dodgeball incident?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451569
becasue if a clip goes viral it will bring a bunch of toursits that will check your stream BUT if you are not able to hold them is gonna hurt the whole channel. That is why clips are separated for the most part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451302
March 2020 was the last time Pekora wasn't #1 in hours watched. Fubuki is ending a very very long streak.

[Anonymous No.]

How come the orca still hasn't opened her membership yet? What is she waiting for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451736
probably waiting on the emotes

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451559
>spend every waking hour of every day sneeding at a woman pretending to be an anime girl over a few digits here and there
FTFY. He used to mostly do it on /jp/, but since idiots here bite his bait pretty much every time he seems to spend most of his time here now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449378
>>15449882
Faggots.
Just because your Holowhores have dwindling views is a failure like them

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451403
And when such articles get made about Chloe's SC record breaking first month of monetization get written that will help the company grow like the Coco articles did. We aren't there yet, she only got monetization 19 days ago or so and December hasn't ended.

>>15451481
Of course she could have not been hired. Then Sana would simply be an artist that has done more to help cover grow than Chloe the hololive member has. Like you noted, it doesn't actually matter if Sana is a holomember or not. I'm arguing current reality, not whatever shit someone wants to make up. I could simply say that Sana being in hololive has made multiple high profile artists interested in working for cover which will help the company a great deal in the future, if we're just making things up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451950 (me)
*doesn't mean everyone else is a failure like them

[Anonymous No.]

ahhh that was a nice scream by Koyoyoyoyo. No big SC train yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452076
Man, her soft voice is nice. Her demotivated tone makes me erect.

[Anonymous No.]

>koyori fails the jump
>numbers go up

[Anonymous No.]

>first time Mincraft with no overlap
>only 11k
What the FUCK went wrong with holoX

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452226
not on the holosaba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451950
Anon, the very low stat being discussed isn't there at all, probably because the channel too new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451950
Um, Nijinigger, you did realize that Mysta was so new that Playboard hasn't displayed his "Average Video Views" panel yet, didn't you? (which was the "Very Low" people were talking about) Unless you are trying to numberfag comment rates, Holos (or Gura in particular since they were talking about her) have "Very High" rate on Like rate, Highest Viewers and Avg. Viewers on Playboard too (the ones Mysta got "Very High" rating). While we are at it, Gura effortlessly shit on Mysta's average and highest viewers too, but that's expected

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452162
people love to see suffering. Just ask Fubuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452315
>>15452332
is this the famous holocope???

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/smxtKCF-Lbs
Enough live concert

[Anonymous No.]

Holobronies coping hard after being mogged back to back by Nijis rumao

[Anonymous No.]

nijinigger coping hard after mogged by gura lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452446
>Enough
Saviorfagchama... you're based, but still not spelling correctly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449196
Watame did several covers, 10 originals and her sololive while still having the longest streaming hours in Hololive this year. It's very possible, people just aren't doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449559
The sheep model exists. >>15452601
A lot of people just don't have the commitment to grinding out like that.

[Anonymous No.]

coping thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452226
>creative modo
Minecraft autist won't give her a chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452401
You don't win a prize for being a retard or shitposter, anon. Do you really think people are seething at the stupid things you post? Sit down and think about it for a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

so, today is just fight for silver and bronze right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451955
>the Orca is helping hololive less than Sana
Current reality is that Sana has done nothing special to help the company grow despite whatever strange headcanon you're trying to push. She's the second artist to work for them, not the first. She didn't open any doors, Ina did. And even then, artists like them are, frankly, just a few of many all lining up to boost themselves with the hololive name, and don't contribute to growth anymore than any rando Cover hires for a poster does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450421
>The funniest thing is that the Orca is helping hololive less than Sana is since Sana is actually doing commissioned work for them while Chloe is using the hololive platform to farm superchats. Sure, she's helping cover earn some cash, but they don't need that cash for their growth and she's doing jack shit in helping the other members so far.
Chloe gets superchats for Cover
Chloe sells merch for Cover
That's far more useful than having an artist do some commissioned work, since there are lots of more talented artists out there and most artworks are aimed to get revenue by selling merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451700
20 months streak it seems
before that there are FBK, Aqua, Coco and Miko
FBK come back 1st after more than 2 years

[Anonymous No.]

Pakora not going to stream today? Is she getting demotivated seeing her shit numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452761
Probably. Not sure of any other big contenders at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452820
Aqua reclined hard...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452870
If she's smart enough she'll be playing Minecraft tonight and do sudden collab with Bae or Nene

[Anonymous No.]

if Holostars EN become a success, who will seethe more? Manjisanji EN or Homostars JP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452945
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452820
It's been a good incline and it would be nice for Fubuki to hold the top slot into the future, but too many of the gacha brains won't stick around for other content. She's not enough of a numberfag to try and maintain it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452935
I think she's bored with holoMC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452971
Maybe she should look for more gacha suffering related streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452987
the reason why she lost her viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452820
That's hard to look at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453092
Probably part of it. The APEX recline gutted people like Hal. Focusing too hard on one type of content can be a real liability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450833
Thank fuck, now I don't have to watch it.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been giving it some thought about hololive and I've come to the conclusion that because of the severe content limitations permissions and saying non yabai shit come with, everyone is forced to be actual content CREATORS instead of mere streamers and reacters. And that perfectly explains Myth vs Council numbers, all 5 Myth are creators (even if Ame took a while) whereas Council is just streaming. Mori and Ina came out swinging with art and music, Council teased a few songs and never delivered. Even Myth's weakest creators (Gura and Ame) compensated by being basically the biggest meme machines early one.

TLDR: If Council wants numbers, Council doesn't just need to stream more, they need to actually make stuff. The easiest one here would be Sana, but she's contend with playing pokemon or taking breaks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452870
She usually put her waiting room 1-2hrs before her stream. Also simply looking at the schedules 8pm jst is already taken by rushia/la+ while 9pm is taken already by watame and 10pm is already taken by flare and noel among us collab. She will either continue the undertale or do some random late night stream or maybe she wont stream.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1476115779108044801
Well, this will be numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452808
>Chloe sells merch for Cover
Let's not get ahead of ourselves anon, she's barely gotten any. I don't doubt she WILL do it considering the amount of paypigs, but she's yet to really do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453092
>>15452935
>>15452987
Literally no one care about her builds anymore. She just build shit up and then it's just there, no one even bother seeing what is it
Her pranks are getting stale

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453092
No, it's because she fucked Jun on Christmas Eve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15451041
hologra does a lot of work for, frankly, a really dumb idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453245
Not to mention Moona being banished to ID server mean UsaKen pretty much dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453217
I don't think every Holomem is there this year (A big chunk of them, but some of them might be sitting it out).

[Anonymous No.]

>>15452820
So out of all the talents that Hololive has had Sora, Roboco, Fubuki, Aqua, Pekora, Coco, and Miko are the only ones who have taken the gold in hours watched. Very interesting.

Also interesting to see Miko just shoot up from the bottom tiers to the higher tiers in May 2019. Crazy that just uttering one gamer word caused her to incline that much and what's crazier is that the incline hasn't stopped. She has remained a high tier Holo since.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453245
I mean the reactions other holos had to her traps were always exaggerated but there's only so many times you can roll up Subaru, have her enter a big square built by pekora, click a button and get blown up/dumped in a hole while screaming OMAEEEEEEEEEEEEE. That shit has diminishing returns.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay you faggots, why do I keep seeing people replying in EARNEST, with actual non-bait non-joke replies, to the fucking pak-schizo?
Seriously, no wonder the schizos from all over constantly camp the thread. You faggots don't have the decency or the brains to just IGNORE them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453329
Remember the stair she build for Shion? Have Shion ever check it out?
Also she blew the "EN server tour" card early with Kiara so after the server merge, while every other JP take the chance to get close to ENs, she just go back to playing Minecraft alone again because well, she already get a tour of EN server
Wasted potential all around

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449904
it's garbage because you pick random channels that have no similarity at all with vtuber content

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453240
>Let's not get ahead of ourselves
They already started selling holoX merch, which she's part of it.
https://shop.geekjack.net/collections/holox
She has provided more revenue for cover than Sana in her lifetime and will provide even more in the future. She will sell merch because her design is among the best and her paypigs are loaded as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453344
I will bite all bait
I will reply to all the schizos
I will believe every rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453245
Not really true. Pesuke was getting the attention from holomembers but she haven't finished the thing. Aqua tried it, shion members like kanata, polka, miko and Mumei tried it aswell

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453497
oh yeah, she never actually finished the thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449380
>>15449380
>>15449380
Migrate when ready

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453473
(You) are the plague that haunts the board, that feeds the rrats, that stirs the schizos.
Go jump in a fire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453403
I mean its not pekora's fault that shion haven't stream MC. Shion last MC stream was back in nov 5 so basically just sportsfest stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453217
>https://mobile.twitter.com/RindouMikoto/status/1475783586401992710
>78.3k likes, 40.2k retweets
Not looking good holobro

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453543
You stupid...
That thread is more likely to get bumped off before this one is, you goddamned retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15453497
>>15453526
It's a really big project. She planned to have 50 beacons around it, which mean the 50 Wither Raid MUST happen if she want to finish Pesuke
But well, she certainly cannot summon and fight 50 Withers alone and this is where he autism came it, she just don't like asking for help

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This bait is terrible.

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This thread is terrible.

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Your mom is terrible.

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Nijisanji is terrible

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Your oshi is terrible.

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Terrible.

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>>15453543
AHAHAHA
You STUPID fuck, that thread really did get archived before this one did.

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Move here when you fags done
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>>15453817
why don't you move here
*points to chest*

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Sakura Miko is the most lovely, sweet, adorable, and awesome vtuber who has ever existed!!!!!

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mayorin at jump king last screen

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>>15453217
It is 2 parts with another stream on 25jst midnight, wonder if ens are gonna pop out with this time slot.

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>>15453604
While I have no doubt that Niji will get the gold, comparing Holo and Niji Twitter engagement is stupid.

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>>15453604
I dunno. it is not on the main channel is it? I will be interested to see how it performs on Rindou's channel of all places... Not saying Njisanji could not beat hololive but , her channel ?

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>>15453908
Mori and Kiara were on the new years thing last year although they were obviously both in Japan at the time. I expect at least IRyS and Mori to show up for EN.