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Do you guys think she will ever return?

>> No.1542416

>>1542395
Funny thread OP.

>> No.1542428

>>1542395
I miss this gremlin.

>> No.1542456

>>1542395
Statistically improbable but not quite impossible.

>> No.1542459

Back when she was raw and unfiltered
Holo was the bluepill

>> No.1542552

>>1542395
I honestly miss her. She wasn't treated as a waifu type jewtuber, she was just some bitch who likes cowboys and rap. Her videos are dumb as shit but soulful and you can tell she was just having fun. Her voice is a hundred times better than Gura's too. Too bad she had to be a kike and go apply to the biggest vtuber agency for money at the cost of not having creative freedom, her streams are so fucking scripted and boring now.

>> No.1542621

>>1542552
Anon, there's nothing wrong with someone wanting a stable career. She seems happy now, and I'm happy that she's happy.

>> No.1542671

>>1542395
Yes. She'll get offered enough money to return

>> No.1542674

>>1542552
>not having creative freedom
there's still a crapton of stuff she could be doing right now, it's not like she's completely restricted from doing anything fun or engaging. at least not until the CCP has it's fist on Cover's dick entirely.

>> No.1542731

>>1542395
It's possible but very unlikely and largely contingent on 1) how long she continues at her current job and 2) whether or not she's burned out .

>> No.1542746

>>1542552
>I LIKED IT BETTER WHEN SHE WAS A NIHILISTIC ALCOHOLIC WITH NO FUTURE BECAUSE AT LEAST SHE DIDN'T SELL OUT

>> No.1542768

>>1542746
this but unironically

>> No.1542778

>>1542621
Agreed, I liked senzawa, but I'm also happy with Gawr Gura. She's probably making more money and her future is relatively more stable -- even if Hololive dies in the next few years, she could surely continue to do content creation or get some high profile VA jobs with her newfound success as gura. And honestly, I feel that if her success keeps increasing, hopefully Cover will give her more creative freedom. I know that seems unlikely given current events, but maybe Gura's insane success might convince them whatever she wants has a good chance to be profitable. She has a chance to become the poster child for what might become the largest branch in Hololive.

>> No.1542795

>>1542671
By who?

>> No.1542818

>>1542552
Eh she seems happier now.
Also just wait till they get 3d, that'll be a game changer.

>> No.1542836

>>1542795
By whom?*

>> No.1542968
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1542968

You gotta stop being sad it's over, and just be happy it happened anon.
After all, she said herself that we're gonna miss her when she's gone.
Move on, take care of yourself and support her in her new endeavors. It's the best you can do. And probably what she'd want as well.

>> No.1543621

>>1542746
Yes.

>> No.1543679

6 month ani she admitted to being much happier. no more sen

>> No.1543828

>>1542395
every closed door is just the intro of a brand new story

>> No.1543858
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>>1542552
>>1542552
she mightve had creative freedom but she was a suffering artist with depression and withdrawn. probably pretty poor as well.

She was never gonna make it by herself, and probably would've faded into obscurity with poor unchecked mental health problems.

Hololive saved her, and now she does what she enjoys, roleplaying as a loli, as a professional job, with copious amounts of sociability, success and adorement from fans.

>> No.1543904

>>1543858
instead of roleplaying, she feels a responsibility to perform to those who love her, and that's something she was never gonna attain on her own with 200 viewers.

>> No.1543924

Didn’t watch senzawa vids before holoEN, this alcoholic stuff is just played for jokes surely? She wasn’t actually?

>> No.1543976

>>1542552
Yeah bro, truly scripted where she tells embarrassing stories about herself being a disgusting person not showering for days on end, leaving dishes to grow mold, and eating baby food.

Truly an unhappy person who is six figures richer.

>> No.1544190

Could last stream where she talked about getting a massive gaming rig with a huge room set up with neon blue lights to resemble underwater/Atlantis be a foreshadowing of Gura getting ready to graduate and move on into streaming?

>> No.1544210

>>1542395
Blue Nyanners can come back whenever she wants to.

>> No.1544246

>>1544190
Gura is staying til the 1 year anniversary, and until they perform live onstage, and meet in 3D.

>> No.1544431
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1544431

>>1542395
She'll be back when her 1 year contract is up. That's why she did the debut stream review at 6 months.

>> No.1544456

>>1543976
Being a slob doesn't mean you're unhappy. And even if you're unhappy, at least having a decent job removes the stress of worrying about bills and allows you to treat yourself, which tempers the unhappiness a bit.

>> No.1544470

>>1542395
no, move on already

>> No.1544481

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0VzmwWNFaQ
And Yet a Trace of the True Self Exists in the False Self

>> No.1544496

>>1542552
She was never creative

>> No.1544547

>>1543924
She definitely drunk, but it was exaggerated.

>> No.1544573

>>1543924
read the bottom of her descriptions. she was never an alcoholic.

>> No.1544618

>>1543679
Shit really? That’s great!

>> No.1544625

>>1542395
I still don't know why Gura hates HER.

>> No.1544796

>>1544625
put yourself in the shoes of a woman in her early 20s that probably never went to college. you just landed a huge career, your dream job even. the catch? you spent the last two and half years making shitty meme videos by singing like a retard and playing up an alcoholism meme your fans created about you.
you really expect her to not cringe at herself?

>> No.1544837

>>1544796
No, she didn't do anything that weird.

>> No.1544860

>>1544625
She never said that.

>> No.1544888

>>1544618
Yeah, she cried a bit when talking about how much she likes her gen mates and how her life has changed for the better. It was very cute. I'm happy for her.

>> No.1544891

>>1542395
She will return to my cock!

>> No.1544965

>>1542621
>stable career
I know that being in holo is better than stay as an indie finacially speaking but I cannot say that she's stable

>> No.1544974

>>1544837
meme songs are literally 90% of HER videos anon.

>> No.1544975

>>1544888
Link?

>> No.1545040

>>1544975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD92BiHsriQ

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>>1545040
god she so pure, you can tell shes entirely authentic and is reacting to her own feels.

>> No.1545234

>>1545040
Thank you, god I love her so much

>> No.1545266

>>1542552
>>1542395
she was a shitty nyanners clone

>> No.1545345

>>1545266
Hi nyanners

>> No.1545385

>>1545266
That suggests that Nyanners isn't already shit.

>> No.1545419

>>1545266
until nyanners basically imitated every one of her videos to ape her success.

>> No.1545434

>>1542746
frankly there is something to say about this mindset right here. I remember everyone got butthurt that jontron was doing more than just games, but it was what HE wanted to be doing. You're always gonna have complainers I guess, but it doesn't really matter if the artist you like winds up starving and depressed just for their "art." and you can always appreciate someone's newer work unless you're just a pleb.

>> No.1546134

>>1542395
are people tired of the joke yet
I'm tired of the joke

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1547766

At least post some kino if you're gonna make her thread.
https://youtu.be/lCEvOMyrN04

>> No.1547784

>>1542395
she was better when she was independant. Now evry time i try to watch a stream i get turned away by the cringy ass japanese attempts. I dont wanna hera japanese from a burger in holoEN

>> No.1548095

>>1544547
>>1544573
She definitely made it known in some of her twitch streams she was drinking alcohol, but yes all the YouTube videos still up were probably just her messing around.

>> No.1548142

>>1542395
She is emotionally dependent to her corpo now. Why the fuck would you think she ever wants to go back?

>> No.1548198

>>1544796
>put yourself in the shoes of a woman in her early 20s
I'll gladly put my nose in 'em

>> No.1548204

>>1546134
Have fun going through the same sen timeloop threads forever until the end of time.

>> No.1548232

>>1544796
Imagine if Gura did a Senzawa react stream in the style of the debut react.

>> No.1548234

>>1542395
senzawa
>drowning her weltschmerz in booze
>streamed once in a blue moon
>4chan levels of autism
>tw*tch
>silent half the time
>sings for belle delphine

gura
>bright future with stable income
>will do at least 3 streams per week
>curbed autism
>accessible jewtube streams
>banter all the time
>sings for you

I dunno man, tough choice

>> No.1548300

sneedzawa

>> No.1548409

>>1548232
I know it will never happen, but I kinda want to see how much she would cringe at her old self.

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>>1548300

>> No.1548898

>>1543858
finally a past-present fanart., saved!

>> No.1548937
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1548937

>>1548898
Here, have another
on the artists pixiv there's also naughty versions.

>> No.1548948

>>1542552
>having creative freedom
Gurazawa is a lazy POS. If she had creative freedom she wouldn’t even know what to do with it.

Fucking Ame is going to release a single before she does.

>> No.1549153

>>1545266
This

>> No.1549219

>>1542395
Literally everyone is allowed and it's not even rare for Hololive vtubers to be maintaining their roommate acounts, hell two of her genmates are active on their roommate accounts

The fact that she hasn't said a word or done anything just goes to show how tired she was of being Senzawa. Stop making these dumb threads already

>> No.1549249

>>1545040
Kiara had to ruin the moment

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1549256

no
she hates you and would rather not make meme videos for ironic weebs.
'a' was her first and last mistake.

>> No.1549324

>>1545040
Beautiful

>> No.1549373

You think vtubers ever introduce each other to their irl friends?

>> No.1549493

>>1542395
No, and that's even if Gura graduates

>> No.1550140

>>1542395
she is in a better place now

>> No.1550207

>>1545040
Why is Kiara such a whore?

>> No.1550235 [DELETED] 

>>1550207
Don't you have 20 threads to make, SEAnigger?

>> No.1550307

>>1549219
>kiara probes
>?

>> No.1550316
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>> No.1550361

>>1545040
oh wow so the Kiara memes are actually real

>> No.1550405

>>1545040
>Chicken ruins another great moment.

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1550819

>>1550235
all me

>> No.1551529

None of you fags were even fans of her until you realized she is Gura

>> No.1551961

>>1551529
*tips fedora*

>> No.1553196

>>1545040
I like Kiara but what the hell is wrong with her, is she genuinely autistic?

>> No.1553967

>>1543858
UOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GURA SENZAWA DOUBLE BLOWJOB
TuT

>> No.1554111

>>1542621
>I'm happy she's happy
She's never going to acknowledge your existence, this is pathetic

>> No.1554259

>>1549219
The two active on their roommate accounts produce content different enough from what they're currently doing. There is no point to operating a separate chuuba account if that's what you're already doing.

>> No.1554274

>>1542968
Anon, do you think she has seen that video where there's a lot of gura clips with that song in the background?

>> No.1554812

>>1542395
Most likely not. Hold onto hope, though, op. You never know how things may go in the future.

>> No.1555059

>>1554111
That's not the point. Most people are sane enough to not expect it. We love her and care about her, so when good things happen for her it makes us happy, because she's our idol...

>> No.1556468

>>1554111
It's more pathetic if you don't care if someone you watch is happy.

>> No.1556784

>>1554274
Probably. It's labeled as a Gura song so anyone going through song clips of hers will likely have the algorithm recommend it eventually. The thumbnail of a crying gura is also perfectly made for drawing in clicks.
It's a pretty well done video too in my opinion

>> No.1557775
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1557775

I don't want her to come back, the time has passed. She's doing very well now. Honestly though I really enjoyed Senzawa a lot more than Gura. It makes me feel pretty bad because I fucking love senzawa and don't want to come off as a bad fan.

>> No.1557792

>>1556784
So there's the chance that she'll sing it.

Also I'm p sure that she must've cried while watching it

>> No.1557835

>>1557792
She's already sang most of the songs she used to sing during karaoke so yeah maybe eventually. The one she did was so good already that I wouldn't care if she doesn't do it again though.

>> No.1558166

>>1551529
This is true. But the same can be said for deadbeats and takodachis. Is it really bad to become a fan of your oshi’s past work?

>> No.1558198

>>1553196
That is how germanic people. Bunch of fucking autists.

>> No.1558213

>>1558166
>this is true
It isn't though and it's extremely retarded to say of someone who had so many fans prior to Hololive. Nobody responded to him for a reason.

>> No.1558229

>>1558166
>But the same can be said for deadbeats
There are some protobeats though.

>> No.1558311

What if her losing her "cat ears" has limited her? What if she gets them back? We already were threatened with constant nya puns. The nyas might only be the beginning. We might have a full containment breach on our hands.

>> No.1558333

>>1548937
>moose and geese in the background
Noice.

>> No.1558359

>>1558213
I mean what he said is obviously exaggerated but my point is, is it really bad to become a fan her past after you know more about it due to her present? I was aware of Senzawa’s YT, twitch, and twitter but despite that, I never really cared much since I saw them as just shitposts. After Gura though I saw those works in a different light and even though they are still shitposts, I came to appreciate them more now as a fan.

>> No.1558522

>>1558359
>is it really bad to become a fan her past after you know more about it due to her present?
No just don't be fucking annoying about it.

>> No.1558573

>>1558359
>is it really bad to become a fan her past after you know more about it due to her present?
No, not at all. I'm glad there are people who went back and actually enjoy the old stuff too. I prefer that over newfags who show up and call everything she did before Hololive garbage, that feels bad and it's rude.
I think of her growth the same as musicians who gain a bunch of new fans after they have a breakout hit and sign to a record label. The discussion around her basically mirrors that.

>> No.1558653

>>1558213
>many fans
We both know those are dead subs. She barely even breaks 500 viewers on twitch. All you HERfags just LARP to justify her past content as “good”

>> No.1559603

>>1557775
Anon just move on go fine something else, nothing last for ever not even entertainment

>> No.1559718

>>1559603
I was in denial for a while that I enjoyed other Hololive/vtubers more than her now but I've accepted it. Still feels bad because I don't dislike her at all, still thinks she's a talented individual, I just can't keep forcing myself to keep up with everything she does anymore.

>> No.1559823

>>1559718
That's why don't worship entertainer, it leaves a negative impact you normal life, just be a everyday fan and move on when is gone

>> No.1559879

>>1558653
Her Twitch streams weren't great but the numbers had more to do with the fact she went months without streaming, only to do 1 or 2 in a month unannounced, and then go on hiatus again.

>> No.1559927

>>1559879
And it wasn't going to improve neither, she ghosted her fans more than she is going right now.

>> No.1560015

>>1551529
Not even Gurafag but these videos are fun to watch. Definitely a downgrade

>> No.1560075

>>1551529
Before she joined hololive her Senzawa channel already had more subs than the highest subbed holo.

>> No.1560145

>>1542395
In 5 years

>> No.1560177

So does Holive JP know about this song?
https://youtu.be/TL470fJMi7w

>> No.1560186

>>1542552
>I miss a meme
Obviously it is not what she wanted to be seen as anymore.

>> No.1560302

>>1542621
>She seems happy now
okay champ

>> No.1560305

>>1560177
>Elon baby, eat a mars rock
Unironically fucking fire wordplay.

>> No.1560759

>>1560302
See >>1545040

>> No.1560947

>>1557835
I'm saying it because i would like to see her reaction, something like "why would you miss me?" Or something (maybe not straight up saying that)

>> No.1561004

>>1560075
Is gura going to ghost her fans again?

>> No.1561377

>>1561004
it is inevitable

>> No.1561803

>>1559879
Sounds like she didn't enjoy what she was doing.

>> No.1561994

>>1561803
I think she did enjoy it when she forced herself to do it. She was just fucked up mentally and also had no discipline, so she probably joined Hololive more as a support group than for the money. I mean she she still lives like a poorfag.

>> No.1562028

>>1545266
t. pink senzawa

>> No.1562071

>>1554259
Senzawa wasn't primarily a vtuber account you dumbass

>> No.1562566

>>1561994
Her channel was huge (literally influenced the world if you think about it), yet she dropped it all to start over not knowing if it was gonna be any success or not. Her motivations seemed more intrinsic than not.

I mean it seems undeniable that she hasn't done any activities at all under Senzawa, not even a thank you to her old fans or whether she will produce some occasional stuff in the future or not. Why would you do that if you weren't just abandoning a persona you hated. I know this comparison probably won't be received well and I don't know him that much or a fan, but that Jorji comparison seems pretty fair.

>> No.1562693

>>1562071
We don't know what Hololive puts in their contracts. I wouldn't be surprised if it includes a noncompete agreement that might extend to HER channel because it's sufficiently similar to vtuber work (considering that even if she usually didn't post as a vtuber, the channel name was the identity of her vtuber).

>> No.1562830

>>1542395
didn't she avoid most social media stuff and was mostly a ghost that popped up every once in a while?

>> No.1563068

>>1562693
There's no way she wouldn't be allowed to tweet, and even if that was case (which seems unlikely like I said, a lot of people in Hololive are active on their twitter), she would at least be allowed to formally say that she's taking a break for a while or what the future is for her channel

Polka did a graduation stream for example. Remember they didn't expect Gura to be huge why would they be especially restrictive to her.

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>>1542552
She's way more interesting and more free to express herself now that she's unburdened by the *le epic drunk memelord!!!1* persona. You have shit taste.

>> No.1563127

>>1563079
>more free to express herself now
That's a lie. She was scared she said the word 'gun' on Papers Please.

>> No.1563191

>>1563127
That's just her autism. You see, people like her are never truly free to express themselves because their self-consciousness gets in the way.

>> No.1563263

>>1563079
I mean she's been on record multiple times that her old stuff makes her cringe a lot. I would say rather than her being more or less free, she wanted the image change and the support group from Hololive.

She's probably just passionate about singing and music in general not just in "I make meme songs and that's what I'm gonna do for the rest of my life" kind of way. And it WORKED too, everyone didn't even really think of her as a talented vocalist until Gura, they just thought Meme Queen of Ironic Weebs girl.

>> No.1563370

>>1563068
>There's no way she wouldn't be allowed to tweet
Yes there is, actually. Posting as another persona that is a well known vtuber is a conflict of interest that could be interpreted as competition, even if there isn't any immediate monetary gain. We already know that Hololive places restrictions on what kind of social media they are allowed to use.

>Remember they didn't expect Gura to be huge why would they be especially restrictive to her.
Because HER channel literally had more subs than any other Hololive member at the time she debuted and not only that, she was actually a vtuber. I want you to think as a Japanese salaryman for a minute instead of as a retarded NEET. If you were trying to hide who the person behind your new vtuber, would you want a very popular creator that sounds just like her to make a going away stream? No. If you signed her for exclusivity would you want her to continue making content and have to judge on a case-by-case basis whether it violates the agreement? No.

>> No.1563649

>>1563263
>I mean she's been on record multiple times that her old stuff makes her cringe a lot.
People always assume she meant HER and not the channel that has all it's videos deleted.

>> No.1563719

>>1563370
That sounds good and all, but there is brand value damage if they find out they're being really oppressive to their talents. and I'm not saying she should be allowed to stream as Senzawa, I'm saying there's no way she wouldn't be allowed to say she's taking a break/ceasing activities on Senzawa as a tweet or a youtube video. Even if there is a contract that has some ungodly restrictions where she's not allowed to touch her YT account she had a period of time preDebut or even before singing the contract to say something.

I'm the one giving you a lot of leeway into how restrictive this probably improbable contract is because again, they never ever thought Gura or the EN were gonna be that big. They had 100k milestones for godsake. They were treating them like a slightly bigger ID. Literally every other Hololive talent is allowed activities on their roommate accounts. Senzawa wasn't primarily a vtuber in the first place, she made music (hmmm I wonder who else is still doing music as their roommate), and had a small almost nonexistent twitch vtubing career. Also I laugh at how you think COVER is this elaborate huge corporation who is the master at foresight and has every clause thought up of when they were (and probably still are) a small office just a year ago.

Face it man, Gura just doesn't want anything to do with Senzawa anymore and the people who are pathetically trying to prop up this narrative where she's putting up a front and wants to release her inhibitors are just hipsters who weren't really fans of Sen in the first place or supportive for that matter.

>> No.1563849

>>1548198
That's the spirit

>> No.1563880

>>1548234
Never mind the fact she has real friends now that she can interact with. She also seems to be on a self improvement kick, the karaoke streams to a couple thousand people was a huge deal to her, and she's now pushing hard to be able to 3d perform at concerts

>> No.1563906

>>1563649
Some of her oldest stuff are nice though.

>> No.1563908

>>1554111
Imagine demanding a reward for wanting someone else to be happy

>> No.1563998

>>1563719
>but there is brand value damage if they find out they're being really oppressive to their talents
That's not being oppressive, it's literally standard industry stuff. I've had much worse noncompetes presented to me for my totally unrelated industry and there are people that actually sign them (I'm not willing to, I'll walk), that's why I know they exist. I'm not saying that the reason there wasn't a farewall isn't because she wants to break off from HER either. I'm just telling you that it's very likely that it would be at the very least incredibly frowned upon, if not explicitly breaking a contract, to continue creating content as HER.

>> No.1564028

>>1563880
I don't give a fuck, her content is stale now. Your are not an artist for the money.
Fuck this trend, an artist should work for their art alone.

>> No.1564036

I liked the Sen character better, but clearly she needs and wants the social support and structure from her current gig to mitigate her depressive tendencies. Ultimately it's about doing what makes you happy as long as you can fulfill your obligations, and I think her current gig is a step up on both fronts.

>> No.1564051

>>1564028
>Fuck this trend, an artist should work for their art alone.
You should only have this perspective if you actually walk that walk. What exactly are you doing for free that people care about? If it's nothing, then why do you think anyone else should?

>> No.1564077

>>1564028
Fuck this trend of calling anyone with a social media account an "artist"

>> No.1564156

>>1564028
lol what the fuck is this brainlet take.

>> No.1564200

>>1564156
>Your are not an artist
>Your're not an artist
My sides just sold out to this brainlet

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>>1554111
Okay incel

>> No.1564233

>>1564156
Turns out HER fans were mostly NEETs and children, probably why she wanted to distance from them. Why would anyone want to associate with people that don't care if they're happy or financially stable?

>> No.1564311

If she hates her old self so much, why hasn't she deleted everything HER related?

>> No.1564324

>>1564311
Why burn a perfectly good contingency plan, even if you don't like it?

>> No.1564332

I've said this before but this thread just reminded me and I still can't quite figure it out, but for some reason sen's voice just irritates me to no end, even though Gura's voice is... practically the same. I genuinely can't quite put my finger on it, but Gura is just a million times more watchable to me in every way. Besides it's clear she's having a better time now so it's a win-win.

>> No.1564337

>>1564324
Because according to fags here, she really wants nothing to do with her old self anymore.

>> No.1564350

>>1548142
>emotionally dependent to her corpo
please explain

>> No.1564370

>>1564332
It's the forced UwU/OwO tone.

>> No.1564396

>>1564337
I've quit jobs I didn't like too, but I didn't go scorched Earth on them. I'm really wondering whether any of HER fans has ever actually had any form of gainful employment before.

>> No.1564426

>>1564370
Could be. As I said they're pretty much the exact same voice, so maybe it's her old mannerisms...?

>> No.1564427

>>1564396
>I'm really wondering whether any of HER fans has ever actually had any form of gainful employment before.
Where the fuck do you think you are?

>> No.1564456

>>1564337
Have you ever created stuff before? Even when you despise it you rarely want it to go away, it's kind of like a time capsule to keep it there.

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If she ever graduates or gets fired, she'll probably hop back on Senzawa unless she decides to completely quit streaming. She'd likely still do better than a lot of indies and even be able to collab with holos unless she does a massive yab. Just enjoy Gura for now.

>> No.1564469

>>1564427
You say that but lots of vtuber simps actually have good jobs. How do you think they pay for those memberships and akasupas? I just really doubt an of HER fans would ever give her a membership let alone an akasupa.

>> No.1564481

>>1563649
I'm pretty sure she doesn't remember fondly making a song for a roastie that does anal with a lanket on onlyfans

>> No.1564501

>>1564311
It's free money as long as it's still getting views, plus she has a following to fall back on in case of The Final Yab. She also might realize that some people like it, even if she cringes a bit at it now.

>> No.1564522

>>1564460
They're all going to graduate eventually, but she's not going to get fired. She's going to have her own original song and she's going to dance on stage and become an idol.

>> No.1564540

>>1564460
Since everyone and their mothers know about her past persona, this would be an easy cash grab for her. On the other hand, could she really go back and pretend Hololive didn't happen? Everybody would spam references and stuff in her chat.

>> No.1564543

>>1564522
I hope they put it in VR. I love that shark.

>> No.1564565

>>1564540
>Everybody would spam references and stuff in her chat.
Better than working at MgRonalds.

>> No.1564577

>>1564522
I hope that's her endgame, but the longer she takes to release a song on her own or post any original content, the less likely it becomes.

>> No.1564624

>>1564469
>lots of vtuber simps actually have good jobs
Not the ones in here.

>> No.1564629

>>1564565
True. I'm just wondering how she could pull it off and make a living out of it in the long run.

>> No.1564635

>>1564522
>She's going to have her own original song and she's going to dance on stage and become an idol.
Should commission some, Kiara's were fun. Its a shame EN won't get 3d other than shitty home 3d

>> No.1564636

>>1564481
Please explain further. Is that okay boomer tick tock girl doing porn now or is this about something else?

>>1564540
Hololive spam would get annoying but if Delta managed to pull through I don't see how Gura wouldn't eventually be able to do so too unless there are actual bots spamming every stream for months.

>> No.1564640

>>1545040
Goddamn kiara is such a fucking cunt

>> No.1564726

>>1564636
>Please explain further. Is that okay boomer tick tock girl doing porn now or is this about something else?
that's neekolul, who has no direct relation to HER. anon's talking about belle delphine

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>>1564726
Sheeeeeeit.
>hell yeah let's do it

>> No.1564862

>>1542552
>thing i like = soul
>thing i don't like = soulless
gb2 >>>/v/

>> No.1566108

>>1564577
>he doesn't know
She's already working on 5 songs dude.

>> No.1566158

>>1550361
they are

>> No.1566402

why does depression, alcohol, and edgy humor make for great content?
filthy frank got famous the same way, senzawa too, and more if go back in history.

the characters who are out there always make good content. the content is "boring" now, obviously the drunk sporadic content was not a long term sustainable thing but man, it almost always creates /kino/ content in any field.

>> No.1566604

>>1566402
Humor is very simple
Seeing that you are better than someone makes you feel good.
Thats why the good comedians are ugly, have the worst luck, or fail doing normal stuff.
Is as simple as watching someone slip on a banana peel.

>> No.1566641

>>1566402
>>1566604
Many good comedians are/were actually deeply depressed so you are on to something here.

>> No.1566671

>>1564640
>Are you really crying? Are you going to shit your pants? Maybe piss and cum?
Why the hell is Kiara so callous?

>> No.1566707

>>1566604
>>1566641

>Seeing that you are better than someone makes you feel good.
this doesnt work well because senzawa/filthy frank and even robin williams had big egos when they were doing well. that cockiness but alcoholic pseudo analytical drunken content goes back in history.

people dont watch them to look down upon them, sure some are like that but most unironically appreciate the "art" these people put out.

>> No.1566835

>>1566707
Yeah, I don't think people watch them to look down on them either, but there has to be a link between depression and producing good comedy.

>> No.1566896

>>1566707
What he wrote is stupid. Humor is about relatability, surprise, and playful twisting of the ordinary. Contempt is not a funny emotion. If you truly think someone is like a worm crawling in the dirt, nothing that person does will ever be funny to you.

>> No.1567072

>>1566896
yeah I thought that too, I think he's from the
>women are as funny as men
group who thinks jokes are just roast sessions or hate sessions.
these people are great at situational humor which takes a lot of skill and experience too.

>> No.1567125

Never heard of her op. Some new indie that failed I guess?

>> No.1567970

>>1566835
well self depreciating humour is the bomb these days
sometimes stepping back and looking at it from the side makes me terrified just thinking how many sad and hopeless people there are

>> No.1569232

>>1544796
Worked for Nyanners.

>> No.1570547

>>1551529
You do know that most folks already suspected it was HER very early on?

>> No.1573773

>>1558653
She had 1 million subs on Youtube, not Twitch. All of her videos would get millions of views pretty quick

>> No.1577051

>>1570547
And yet none of you were actually fans of her

>> No.1577255

>>1548937
>supporting a horsefucker

>> No.1577268

>>1542395
No. Stop asking.

>> No.1577768

>>1550207
Extroverts don't think twice before speaking. And chicken herself is dumb on top of that.
I start pitying her now instead of hating her with a passion like before.

>> No.1578523

I remember when an anon guessed it was going to be senzawa a day before her debut, i wish there was a screencap.

>> No.1578620

>>1542395
G*ra is more happy than senzawa because g*ra has genmates that she really loves, anon... she is happy please let her be happy.

>> No.1579490

>>1542795
donald trump

>> No.1579534

>>1578620
G*ra is even a cowboy now

>> No.1579582

>>1544190
what the fuck does graduating mean for vtubers?
With normal idols they go to music, and acting but what is there for vtubers?

>> No.1579651

>>1579582
From what I know of other graduated Vtubers, there's one that's now hosting a radio show, some are making short form comedic content, some are now starting careers as VAs, and one is gambling on beyblade tournaments.

>> No.1579665

>>1579582
Working at Wal-Mart.

>> No.1580236

>>1545434
honestly true, but JonTron's new stuff wasn't funny. so the complaining makes sense. He also started doing shilling videos for phone games and shit.

>> No.1580280

>>1564522
>and become an idol
Isn´t EN branch the variety entretainment in contraposition with JP idols?

>> No.1580312

>>1579651
>and one is gambling on beyblade tournaments.
>beyblade tournaments.
these are still a thing?

>> No.1580355

>>1580312
Oh boy, you have no idea...

>> No.1580366

>>1580312
Apparently they still exist, there was actually a funny incident where Cover and Ichikara both dogpiled on a tournament organizer who was using vtuber images to promote his tournament.

>> No.1580459

>>1569232
Nyanners constantly cringes at herself.

>> No.1580884

Why the fuck would she make anything under Senzawa? You really think all her old fans don't know she's Gura? She doesn't need to say goodbye

>> No.1582223

>>1566707
Nah man, robin didn't have a bigger ego than the average person, he was remarkably down to earth for someone of his status, he used to post on in eva threads on /a/, I miss him, he went offline for a couple months, then got the news he was dead, lifes not the same without him, dropped skype cause I couldnt bring myself to delete his contact info.

>> No.1583487

>>1582223
>robin didn't have a bigger ego than the average person, he was remarkably down to earth
lol, I think you need to delve a bit more deeper into these people, fren.
not saying having a big ego is bad but he was not down to earth, later at the end of his life he did but his career was also tapering off there so it was only obvious.

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can someone make a proper ogey edit of pic related?

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>>1586262
if you need the full image

>> No.1587260

>>1564350
all about that money

>> No.1588146

>>1542552
yes, yes, anon. don't worry. i'm sure she'll come back any day now so that she can once again have the creative freedom to do what you are telling her to do.

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>>1586262

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>> No.1588659

She'll come back when her other persona graduates or when belle delphine needs some songs

>> No.1588726

can you believe she made a kiara song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb_Z6uFpodo

>> No.1591520

>>1544431
>most popular hololive EN is going to stop after 1 year

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>>1588726
Wow they should collab sometime, it'd be cute

>> No.1592983

>>1591520
Considering JP companies she'd probably make more money quitting and keeping 10% of her viewers than what she does now.

>> No.1594012

>>1592983
Yeah than ghosting them leaving back to 200- 500 view on twitch. Great idea anon even her current persona those the same thing but manage tells her to stream

>> No.1594413

>>1592983
She already makes obscene money, she doesn't need to make more at the expense of burning a bridge with a company she loves working with and losing all of her coworkers.

>> No.1595215

>>1542836
bi whumb
*Gonna correct someone, do it the Senzawa way, faggot

>> No.1597274

>>1563649
>"old stream clips"

>> No.1597675

>>1563127
thats just jewtube anon they would censor her regardless check out how they have been handling all gun related content

>> No.1597979

I miss her drunken singing soo much. Shark is cute and all, but too clean and sanitized. Im glad shes doing well and is happy but its just not the same. That said ill still watch every singing stream she does.

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i miss her

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What I get of the older fans is that they want a loser to relate to and can't relate to Gura now that she found happiness.

>> No.1602728

>>1602240
>Gura now that she found happiness.
>heh, you fools, dont you know its me who can read her mind and not you

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Gura is so adorable that I had to stop watching her.
I couldn't reach out and hug her and this reality was causing me mild amounts of pain.

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