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15409903 No.15409903 [Reply] [Original]

>hurr durr it's ogre
>nvm check my totally serious debut stream... again
when will the Chammers have an original idea again for once?

>> No.15409947

>>15409903
what is a /vt/-approved original idea?

>> No.15409995

>>15409947
Streaming Pokemon seven days a week and reading superchats.

>> No.15410010

>>15409903
>He's watching haachama

>> No.15410021

>>15409947
Basically this >>15409995

>> No.15410183

>>15409903
don't bully her she has dementia

>> No.15410438

>>15409947
just something, anything, she didn't already do 10 times before

>> No.15410567

>>15410438
Like? Again you're not giving an answer here.
Everything has been done a hundred times by different chuubas.
The only thing she doesn't do that much anymore is playing games because she doesn't enjoy them that much shy from minecraft.
Don't like that? Watch someone else, simple as.

>> No.15410748

>>15409947
Streaming Minecraft, APEX, or whatever flavor of the month games seven days a week.

>> No.15410807

>>15409947
Graduating and marrying me. Haven't seen any chuubas try that yet.

>> No.15410845

>>15409947
This shit very original
https://youtu.be/IKxssi7l3a8
https://youtu.be/bZghtnL3y3k
I'm sure you can think of something else.

>hurr durr they use money
Well yeah, this is how showbiz work. You need money and connection.

>Haachama have sovl
She's not 16 y.o anymore.
She needs to start doing something better, not repeating how she wants to win over the next new generation.
She began her superiority over others when the 5th generation came along and literally nothing has changed in her words or actions since then.
She doesn't even do normal collabs with those she wants to surpass.

>> No.15410900

>>15409947
beating Pecuckra Legendary pokemob team with lvl1 Rattata

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>>15409903
I remember when she first started her horror stuff and other stuff that everyone here liked it. I got shat on for disagreeing with it. I found it boring, unoriginal and repetitive. Unfortunate that she's still up to it. How the times have changed.

>> No.15410955

>>15409947
some amerimutt pandering garbage or chink shit. this board is full of amerimutt/spic eops and chinks. remember this board totally going for jp members doing lets study english trash streams.

>> No.15411009

Don't care, still watching. Stay mad

>> No.15411021

How about
>lewd thumbnail for scheduled stream
>crappy fanmade MMD leading up to stream
>generic karaoke

>> No.15411040

>>15410845
>this shit very original
How exactly is giving minimal animations to a comic she almost had no input into original or creative? She literally did nothing other than voice acting, which haachama does for the videos she edits by herself.
I do however agree with you on the collab point, though you do have to understand that haachama can't do off collabs nowadays and online collabs are pretty hard to happen since she's usually streaming at midnight

>> No.15411053

>>15411009
>he says while replying

>> No.15411077

>>15409903
When she's back in australia. Australia was literally the only place where she was forced to be creative.

>> No.15411083

>>15410955
The irony, ESL-kun.

>> No.15411088

>>15409903
Just close the stream when you don't like the content. Only numbers matter.

>> No.15411095

>>15411021
kinochama, I applaud

>> No.15411117

>>15410845
>HoloEN trash
Opinion discarded. The least you could do is link something from NijiEN, which demolish HoloEN so bad it's not even funny.

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It seems her superiority has caused some controversy

>> No.15411187

>>15410567
nta but more hololive minecraft events would be good. hunger games, boxing matches, building competitions.. it's already proven to be successful with hardcode mode, one block, first one to find diamonds etc. more competitions for her community would be cool. she should do another minecraft contest
i'd like to see her do more variations on art contests, because it's always flooded with pro artists
what about an art contest where the artist can only use a mouse? what about an amateur art contest? that would mean more submissions because people aren't afraid of getting mogged.

yes i am unironically recommending more minecraft, haachama has become extremely stale and even minecraft is better than the shit she is putting out these days
>Watch someone else, simple as.
already do bro

>> No.15411220

>>15411117
YWNBJ

>> No.15411233

>>15411133
I think people have some pretty high expectations of her even though at the end of the day she's just a vtuber, what she can actually do is very limited.
I would love it if someone could show me something a holo member did which could be considered in the same tier as her horror stuff back when it first aired.
You just can't, that's pretty much the roof... You can try paying others money to make more stuff that are a bit more high quality but at the end of the day the essence is the same but the shell is polished.

>> No.15411240

>>15410845
>This shit very original
>https://youtu.be/IKxssi7l3a8 [Embed]
>https://youtu.be/bZghtnL3y3k [Embed]

lmao. are these what eops on this board praise?

>> No.15411265

>>15411133
As always. Some experts wring their hands and come up with excuses to talk shit because they are either ignorant or upset that Chammers refuses to fit in the mold they want her to fit in. Story as old as time in any form of art or entertainment.

>> No.15411292

>>15411133
yeah it caused her to break down in tears and make the bugs rev up their spam again rumao l

>> No.15411294

>>15410845
VRchat is the pinnacle of creative endeavors and definitely not a cope for not having real 3D

>> No.15411313

>>15411040
>How exactly is giving minimal animations to a comic she almost had no input into original or creative?
Because it looks fresh. Not a gaming stream or karaoke or other vtuber stuff
>She literally did nothing other than voice acting
Yes, but then you could say that all the original songs of the Hololive members, are not their songs.
The lyrics and music for many members are written by someone else, and they just perform.

>> No.15411369

>>15411294
virtual youtubers making use of a virtual environment is a genuinely smart and creative move. vrchat removes the hassle of having to get one of those annoying tracking suits and wearing it all stream. haachama could easily ask her fans to make something in vrchat for her for a stream

>> No.15411391

>>15411187
I'm not too informed about minecraft but are those things that you mentioned collabs? I already said that currently it's hard for Chama to collab given the times she streams at.
And if they're not collabs, haachama has already said that the only things she enjoys in minecraft is building, she's not a circus monkey for your entertainment anon, if that's all you believe she is then I'm glad you're watching someone else.
As for contests, she hasn't done many in recent times because she doesn't want people to be discouraged if she ended up not doing the stream for whatever reason... We've already seen art contests quite a bit of times, putting one or two restrictions on it won't make them as refreshing as you might imagine.
The people who keep arguing that she's become stale literally make no sense when you compare her to other holos who pretty much do the same thing, it's either playing games, zatsus or karaokes.

>> No.15411396

>>15411313
Haachama dropped several raps which she wrote the lyrics for herself.

>> No.15411420

She used to have more variety. Now she's as repetitive as Coco. Just replace meme review with karaoke.

>> No.15411423

>>15411220
Sir, I watch mostly NijiEN and PRISM nowadays because they're just so much better than HoloEN. I don't even watch JP streamers aside from a select few. Even HoloID is better than HoloEN in terms of quality.

>> No.15411518

these loud eop trannies

she should stop pandering to eops and do normal streams as she used to. eops never stop complaining like trannies

>> No.15411550

>>15411518
>she should stop pandering to eops
You will never be a normal manager and fan

>> No.15411578

>>15411391
>she's not a circus monkey for your entertainment
both haaton and haatokeks seem to have forgotten that she is literally an entertainer. vtuber fans would rather drown in cope than admit to themselves that their oshi is lacking in originality

>The people who keep arguing that she's become stale literally make no sense when you compare her to other holos who pretty much do the same thing, it's either playing games, zatsus or karaokes.
you're right, haachama is doing nothing different that any other holos

>> No.15411593

>>15411391
the truth is that they are primarily faggots who want the haato back that suffered through boring zatsudans with her fake character mask on for them years ago. Now that she is doing whatever she wants they just cry and bitch about it with shit level bait like this. They want her to be generic but saying that would make them look retarded, even though that is what the original haato was.

>> No.15411640

I really hope you people aren't learning Japanese just for this woman, but it would definitely explain the level of cope Haachama threads receive.

>> No.15411692

>>15411640
Vtubers are the only form of entertainment where a fan liking what entertainer does is seen as a "cope". Let that sink in.

>> No.15411753

>>15411133
At least she saves money by living rent free in that one schizo’s head

>> No.15411755

>>15411578
>an entertainer
Yes an entertainer, not a trained monkey who'll mindless do whatever the crowd wants her to do.
This is the content she's happy doing, her haatons are happy to watch and the newfags are intrigued by.
>you're right, haachama is doing nothing different that any other holos
Since you admit this is the case then go cry rivers about your own oshi being unoriginal, unless... You're a nijinigger? If THAT'S the case then your shitty opinion has been immediately discarded since you obviously don't watch nor care about holos.
Everyone who's genuinely complaining and not shitposting is just as >>15411593 said, and those exact people are just clipniggers and threadreaders who haven't watched a single haachama stream for 10 months at least.

>> No.15411778

>>15411550
the reason haachama is being lackluster is that she has stopped collabing with jp members. chamatan was especially a very fun and "creative" collab but she will be back because shes actually making a move right now. though eops will never understand it, and will keep complaining.

https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1475803609644568581

>> No.15411804

>>15411040
>can't do off collabs nowadays
?
did she leave japan again or are you just being a bot retarded

>> No.15411876

>>15411640
The only complains that actually make sense are her lack of collabs, and that can easily be explained... So fags will try and find other things to complain about but they end up looking retarded and screaming "cope" because they don't make a single logical point.
But this is /vt/ and being caught acting retarded is common occurrence here

>> No.15411894

God I hate haatoncuck. She could shit in your mouth for the 30th time today and you'd still desperately try to justify how it's the most delicious thing you've ever eaten.

>> No.15411941

>>15411876
Basically this. It’s like one schizo seething out of control

>> No.15411963

>>15411804
This is how I know you don't watch streams for shit, dumb fag.
Haachama usually streams at midnight jst, all of haachama's off collabs are NEVER at her house, with the exception of her collab with her friend dubbed "error-chan"
No matter how much you try and think about it, it's pretty fucking hard to do off collabs when the only time you can actually do them is at midnight.

>> No.15412001

>>15411755
never mind you're completely delusional. happy with whatever content you're fed as long as its from hololive.

i'm not a nijinigger, but i'm not some delusional holonigger incapable of looking outside the holobubble either

>> No.15412012

>>15411963
>retard sobbing every day about chama hasn’t actually watched chama streams
What a twist

>> No.15412026

>>15411963
wow....this reasoning is giga retarded

>> No.15412045

>>15409995
Also hands reveals

>> No.15412053

>>15411876
Isn't lack of originality a merited complaint? The only justification for it I see is that other Hololive members do the same thing.
So who's at fault? All of Hololive? Haachama? Or are you just going to deny the overall lack of creativity?

>> No.15412115

>>15411021
Hoe about some 45 minutes of mindless mouthbreathing troubleshooting?

>> No.15412118

>>15411593
So YWNBJ holobronnies wanting someone to be a generic Japanese waifu that does the same gaming, zatsudan, utauwaku streams ad infinitum? Why am I not surprised?

>> No.15412168

>>15411963
>Haachama usually streams at midnight jst
I'm pretty sure there are college days off and she can stream on those days at other times and make collab arrangements.
>all of haachama's off collabs are NEVER at her house, with the exception of her collab with her friend dubbed "error-chan"
looks like rrats
Her parents know exactly what she does and if they let her do an off collabs with error-chan, there shouldn't be a problem with others.
>midnight
She's supposed to be on winter break right now and instead of collabs, she's making her "debut" and changing her name.

>> No.15412188

>>15411423
>quality
I'm not sure you understand what that word means, anon

>> No.15412202

>>15412001
So you're even worse than a nijinigger, your just seething about the fact that your 2view chuuba you've been grooming hasn't gotten the attention you THINK she deserves.
Damn, now I feel stupid trying to reason with you....
>>15412012
Sadly anon, many such cases!

>> No.15412232

>>15412053
Jews are to blame for this

>> No.15412283

>>15412202
Honestly the creativity complaint is odd when she wrote and put together all those rap videos.

>> No.15412301

>>15412202
holotards are all the same, they're the npcs of /vt/.
what if i watch hololive, nijisanji and 2views? what if i watch small company vtubers as well?

>> No.15412356

>>15412053
Who's at fault? Well I couldn't really tell you.
Like I said people are expecting a lot from haachama and ame too but seem to not really mention other holos, why is that? If you watch someone else are you fine with what they're doing? Then why are you complaining about haachama specifically?

>> No.15412357

>>15412232
VirtualJewTubers

>> No.15412530

>>15412356
>Then why are you complaining about haachama specifically?
I'm not, personally. I don't dislike Haachama.
But people are probably doing it for a similar reason as to if you were to present someone with a steaming pile of shit, and then you were to present them with a steaming pile of shit with haachama-scented perfume sprayed on.
These threads aren't about the steaming piles of shit themselves, but more so about the haachama-scented perfume.

>> No.15412558

>>15412188
Sorry anon, I should have used "sovl" because that's what HoloEN is: Souless garbage created for the sole purpose of making money. Even vtubing is not a medium exempt for this it seems, as proven by HoloEN.

>> No.15412716

>>15412301
If you have that big of a chuuba catalog to pick from, why are you so hung up on haachama exactly? the only reason I could possibly think of is that she seems to be living rent free in your head, and if that's the case then she's doing something correct.
>>15412168
>I'm pretty sure there are college days off
>She's supposed to be on winter break right now and instead of collabs
absolutely fair points I'll give you that, but maybe...just maybe, she has other real life obligations that take priority? if she's the one asking for a collab then she should be the one to arrange and make it happen, makes sense right? maybe she just doesn't want to disrespect her friends by making a scuffed collab? you remember the seething mori got when her collab with her gen mates wasn't "up to par" as some others have said, like I said the lack of collabs is absolutely a valid complaint, and it seems there might be a collab between her and kanata.
>looks like rrats
it is not, just check out every single off collab she's had since she came back to japan and you'll see that none of them were at her place

>> No.15412736

>>15412530
So once again we are at the point where Haatons are just coping and pretending to like Haachamas content just to annoy schizos like you? We loop to this nonsense over and over because that's the only explanation your small brain can comprehend. You can't for the life of you to even entertain the idea that Haaton actually like what she does. No, you are the authority that decides what Haatons like and don't like. You are fucking delusional.

>> No.15412939

>>15412530
I'll entertain you for a bit here, what do you consider "a steaming pile of shit" and what do you not consider "a steaming pile of shit"?
it just makes no sense, are all vtuber activities considered piles of shit in your book? because your analogy implies that what haachama does is what every other chuuba does but with her own twist, or am I not correct here? that just means you don't even watch chuubas, then why the fuck are you on this board?

>> No.15412961

>>15412736
what is a totally original idea Haachama can do, in your opinion?

>> No.15413001

Haachama's just /vt/ in a microcosm. WILL GRADUATE randomly with every announcement then Suddenly Debut.

Endless
Timelooping

>> No.15413013

>>15412961
what is a totally original idea any holo can do, in your opinion?

>> No.15413060 [DELETED] 

>>15412961
>>15413013
what is a totally original idea Haachama can do, in your opinion?

>> No.15413070

>>15412961
So you don't actually have anything to comment to what I wrote? OK. Not a surprise.

>> No.15413073

>>15412736
You asked for an explanation on why Haachama gets threads like these but no other Hololive members do, I provided you an answer.
I don't doubt you enjoy her content. Your problem is that you seem to lack the ability to comprehend why people dislike the haachama-scented-perfume. Unless you entirely deny the fact that haachamas streams are largely the same as any other Hololive members', and you believe that what she's doing is genuinely original.
>>15412939
A steaming pile of shit is just an exaggeration. I don't think her or other hololive members streams are that bad.
>but with her own twist
There's no twist, nothing substantial anyway. I don't think you understand the analogy.

>> No.15413082

>>15409947
Nothing, /vt/ sisters will never be happy and will always find a way to complain. If anything, the fact that what Haachama does annoys those retards shows that what she's doing is great.

>> No.15413150

>>15413013
what is a totally original idea any chuuba can do, in your opinion?

>> No.15413156

>>15413070
same to you since you totally dodged my question.

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>>15411391
>she's not a circus monkey for your entertainment anon
>Haato
kek
anonchama, maybe that would apply to the rest, but from all the holos, she is the most likely to do AV porn, Haachama because she she is almost a child, doesn't have standards, the most vulgar of all, she is up to any bullshit that come across tat she thinks is entertaining, when in reality is boring as fuck.
unlike other holos that can be lewd, they know where to draw a line, Haachama doesn't, she is a fucking retard

>> No.15413215

>>15413082
vt sisters will continue to complain as long as they get (you)s
>if what she does makes people make more angry threads about her, it's good
kek, a classic

>> No.15413244

>>15413070
So you don't actually have anything to comment to what I wrote? OK. Not a surprise.

>> No.15413316

>>15413196
Jesus Christ this has to be one of the most retarded takes I've seen on this entire website...

>> No.15413339

ITT: schizo jealous that his oshi hasn’t debuted as many times as Chama

>> No.15413374

>>15413244
So you actually have something to comment to what I wrote? No. What a surprise.

>> No.15413414

>>15413316
retard is to be a fan of haachama, she is a boring bitch

>> No.15413452

>>15413073
>you seem to lack the ability to comprehend why people dislike the haachama-scented-perfume.
that's absolutely not the case at all, some complains are valid while those who make nonsensical points, get outed as retards and start shitting themselves should have their opinions immediately discarded
>There's no twist
you can't tell two shits apart, but a regular shit and a specially scented regular shit can easily be told apart, at essence they're the same but the outer shell is different, if you can't comprehend this then you're the one who doesn't understand the analogy.
>>15413150
you do understand that there is a finite pool of ideas that exist, depending on the medium that pool gets restricted more and more, I don't understand what's different between what haachama does and what regular content creators do with what they have available for them?
again, what I don't understand is why people complain about haachama being like this when the rest of hololive have been doing the same thing since debut?

>> No.15413465

>>15413414
and a real ugly pig

>> No.15413499

>>15413073
I didn't ask anything. I have never said anything about originality. I simply write why your holier than thou bullshit is bullshit. You have your head so far up in your ass that you have lost the plot and only thing you can come up with is nonsense about coping and perfumes. You wring your hands and try to claim this is some general conversation when it's perfecly clear that you either can't or won't move any of this past Haachama. Why you have grudge against her, I can only guess but I do have couple of good ones.

>> No.15413572

>>15413374
So you actually have something to comment to what I wrote? No. What a surprise.

>> No.15413591

>>15413499
The guy is probably one of the two schizos that is in absolute shambles every time Haachama streams. Honestly can’t tell if he’s really pathetic, Chinese, or both

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Copechama

>> No.15413771

>>15410955
indog-kun, it's not our fault you were born in a shit country

>> No.15413789

>>15413452
Haachama has no outer shell, at it's core her content is largely the same as every other Hololive members. Her contests are neat though, she should focus on more content like that.
>>15413499
My original post claimed that lack of originality was a merited criticism.
You replied asking why people choose to pick Haachama as an example of lack of originality in particular.
I explained, you didn't understand.

You think that everything I say is a personal slight against Haachama, yet I've stated multiple times that's not the case.

>> No.15413799

>>15412558
Kind of agree they are too twitch culture for my taste

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>indog-kun, it's not our fault you were born in a shit country

>> No.15413839

>>15413452
Hi, anon from >>15413150 here. I actually agree with you, I was just shitposting lol. Here, let me direct your response to those who brought up the argument in the first place.
>>15412961
>>15413013

>> No.15413851

>>15413196
I thought you had to be good looking to be in JAV? Or average at least.

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>Hi, anon from >>15413150 # here. I actually agree with you, I was just shitposting lol. Here, let me direct your response to those who brought up the argument in the first place.
>>>15412961 #
>>>15413013 #

>> No.15414027

>>15413789
Her rap arc was literally something new and had a bunch of new content she wrote and edited. She never follows flavor of the month games. Really she’s the wrong holo to choose for your point if you’re trying to make a general statement about unoriginality

>> No.15414067

>>15413789
And you keep saying I said and did things I did not say or do. It's very tiresome and I am bored now. But keep on trying to convince people you are arguing in good faith. Haatons won't believe you but maybe someone else will.

>> No.15414212

>>15413789
>I explained, you didn't understand.
your explanation makes no sense though, because haachama isn't an isolated case.
you can make the same thread about anyone and their fans will tell you the same things.
any content becomes that chuuba scented when a chuuba does it.
are you telling me that teamates won't tell you the same things if you made this same exact thread about ame?
it turns from haachama scented to Amelia scented, this is why what you're saying makes zero sense

>> No.15414267

>>15413789
NTA but I do not think its a merited criticism. Even any holo who catches one of her streams tends to mention how it was a little crazy. I have not see any vtuber in general do anything quite like a haachama stream especially when people label it as a schizo stream. You can say you don't find her content to your personal liking but you cannot find me a stream from another vtuber that is comparable to this either so the generic shit needs to be tosses from your conversation point immediately. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h_KXJwu47A

>> No.15414295

>>15414212
You sound like an actual honest to god retard

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>NTA but I do not think its a merited criticism. Even any holo who catches one of her streams tends to mention how it was a little crazy. I have not see any vtuber in general do anything quite like a haachama stream especially when people label it as a schizo stream. You can say you don't find her content to your personal liking but you cannot find me a stream from another vtuber that is comparable to this either so the generic shit needs to be tosses from your conversation point immediately. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h_KXJwu47A [Open]

>> No.15414313

>>15409903
When you stop being a faggot about here having a literal nervous breakdown.

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>>15410933
you deserve it. the delivery is awful hence the repetitiveness - doesn't make it any less la creatividad than it is, so eat shit.
t. never watched

>> No.15414521

>>15411423
this, but unironically.
Pomu, Rosemi, Enna, Iofi and Risu mog Myth so hard it's not even funny anymore. And Council? Yeah don't be ridiculous that's such a trainwreck of a gen oh God

>> No.15414588

>>15409903
>implying she's had any at all since the schizochama arc started
I miss pre-schizochama haato. back when she simply accepted being weird and didn't try to turn it into a gimmick.

>> No.15414654

>>15414027
>trying to make a general statement about unoriginality
I'm not really. Some of her streams lack creativity, some of them don't. I've appreciated her more creative streams, and acknowledged that a criticism of her streams which are perceived to be masqueraded as creative but in reality aren't are merited.
>>15414067
You go into complete denial about the things you said and admit you're tired? Kek.
>>15414212
When Ame makes a karaoke stream, she labels it as a karaoke stream
When Haachama makes a karaoke streams, she labels it as some random inane shit. My point isn't really anything more than the fact that many of Haachamas streams are the same as other Hololive members.

>> No.15414704

>>15414588
Once again, rap arc was an original idea. She did alot of cool stuff experimenting with different genres from chill lofi rap to more hardcore diss rap. But that doesn’t quite fit your narrative huh?

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>>trying to make a general statement about unoriginality
>I'm not really. Some of her streams lack creativity, some of them don't. I've appreciated her more creative streams, and acknowledged that a criticism of her streams which are perceived to be masqueraded as creative but in reality aren't are merited.
>>>15414067 #
>You go into complete denial about the things you said and admit you're tired? Kek.
>>>15414212 #
>When Ame makes a karaoke stream, she labels it as a karaoke stream
>When Haachama makes a karaoke streams, she labels it as some random inane shit. My point isn't really anything more than the fact that many of Haachamas streams are the same as other Hololive members

>> No.15414877

soijak poster.. you need to pick a side..

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>soijak poster.. you need to pick a side..

>> No.15414978

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/search/filename/1619098788642/
kek

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>https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/search/filename/1619098788642/
>kek

>> No.15415263

>>15412716
>it is not, just check out every single off collab she's had since she came back to japan and you'll see that none of them were at her place
Didn't and can't do it are different things.
If she herself had said that she was forbidden, I had no questions.
But so far it looks like she herself is afraid to invite others to her house.

>she has other real life obligations that take priority?
Maybe but we have more than a couple of weekends a month, I don't think she has that many obligations every time or she's out with friends all the time.

>if she's the one asking for a collab then she should be the one to arrange and make it happen, makes sense right?
So she's just afraid of obligation?
She retweeted this jp clip on her profile.
https://twitter.com/murolan_/status/1474066288544989184
She talks about wanting a collab with La+, but doesn't want to invite her for made-up reasons.
And she's waiting for an invitation from kohai.

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>>it is not, just check out every single off collab she's had since she came back to japan and you'll see that none of them were at her place
>Didn't and can't do it are different things.
>If she herself had said that she was forbidden, I had no questions.
>But so far it looks like she herself is afraid to invite others to her house.
>>she has other real life obligations that take priority?
>Maybe but we have more than a couple of weekends a month, I don't think she has that many obligations every time or she's out with friends all the time.
>>if she's the one asking for a collab then she should be the one to arrange and make it happen, makes sense right?
>So she's just afraid of obligation?
>She retweeted this jp clip on her profile.
>https://twitter.com/murolan_/status/1474066288544989184
>She talks about wanting a collab with La+, but doesn't want to invite her for made-up reasons.
>And she's waiting for an invitation from kohai.

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>>15411391
>she's not a circus monkey for your entertainment anon
>eats bugs for views
>twerking
>ghosted her genmates and other holos
>use her kouhai graduation for content
>sexually relieve ojisans through ASMR since she was 16
don't be like that anon, even monkeys deserve some dignity
>>15413196
>she is the most likely to do AV porn
Haachama is just one step away from it

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>>15415396
>>she's not a circus monkey for your entertainment anon
>>eats bugs for views
>>twerking
>>ghosted her genmates and other holos
>>use her kouhai graduation for content
>>sexually relieve ojisans through ASMR since she was 16
>don't be like that anon, even monkeys deserve some dignity
>>>15413196 #
>>she is the most likely to do AV porn
>Haachama is just one step away from it

>> No.15415464

>>15413851
there is cosplay porn, looks doesn't matter, only costume and performance

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>>15415317
Stop doxing me right NOW

>> No.15415563

so soijak anon, how are you going to spend your three days vacation?

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>so soijak anon, how are you going to spend your three days vacation?

>> No.15415909

Honest Opinion:

Hololive has become soulless and desperate, focused more on profit than creativity and entertainment. I just don't feel any love from their streams.

>> No.15416083

>>15415909
this.
everything Hololive has going for it in this day and age is its marketable name.

>> No.15416145

Haachama will graduate. I know she wants to.

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>>15416145
Yes, we know Haachama wants to get university done as soon as possible, no need to tell us.

>> No.15416389

>>15416326
stop making the threadreader cry so much

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>Haachama will graduate. I know she wants to.

>> No.15416438

>>15416326
The lady doth protest too much, methinks

>> No.15416443

>La creatividad de Japón
>schizo arc
>graduation bait
>minecraft
And here I thought Mats had the worst fall out of grace in Hololive.

>> No.15416785

>>15416326
she is a pathological liar anon

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>>15411233
>>15411265
>>15413082
>>15412558
>>15413339
The most based and redpilled posts in this thread

>> No.15417473

>>15411369
it seems you have never watched Mirai Akari nor the Tenmakinin G. Please leave.

>> No.15417508

>>15417473
no

>> No.15417599

>>15416443
>t. haven't watched stream in 10 months
you forgot that, you can just say you're a shitty thread reader anon

>> No.15417619

>>15417508
Please do.Leave. Everything you think is "original" in relation to vtubers, it was already done during the golden age. You're just a casual in awe because you "discovered" that water's wet.

>> No.15417695

>>15417619
i never said it was original. i said it was creative, for hololive standards. and a smart move

why are you using quotation marks when i've never directly said any of those things? are you esl?

>> No.15417927

>>15417695
>are you esl?
Did you know that quotation marks can be used to indicate irony or sarcasm? Or that's something your English teacher forgot to teach you?

>> No.15418011

>>15417927
which one were you indicating then?

>> No.15418063

>>15417927
Based retard

>> No.15418156

>>15417927
Kek, not the way you used them then. You need to learn when to stop replying bro

>> No.15418826

>>15412558
yeah HoloEN sucks at all levels, but Haachama is a more proto, crude and worse version of them, so using HoloEN to elevate Haato you are just shiting harder on her and doesn't work, that's why anon Haachama doesn't have quality, she just streams whatever the fucks she improvises in the last moment

>> No.15418963

>>15418826
>she just streams whatever the fucks she improvises in the last moment
thats why her streams are so good dumbass

>> No.15419675

>>15418963
>nooo why can't you understand why i dislike a thing
stop being autistic

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>>nooo why can't you understand why i dislike a thing
>stop being autistic

>> No.15419772

why is this shit thread still on page 1?? literally one of the shittiest threads I've seen in a while, full of dumb nonsensical retards that have zero idea about what they're talking about

>> No.15419894 [DELETED] 

>ITT haatards seething at their oshi being called a talentless hack

>> No.15419925

>>15419894
begone antichama

>> No.15419939 [DELETED] 

>>15419772
So haatards then?

>> No.15419962

>>15419772
wouldnt happen if haatons learnt to ignore anti threads instead of going full cope trying to defend her

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>>ITT haatards seething at their oshi being called a talentless hack

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>>15409947
Anything Amelia does is /vt/ approved and will be seen as creative, original and innovative, everyone will kneel and everyone will shit talk Cover, Yagoo, Nijisanji, Kizuna, Kson and everyone else in the industry for being incompetent and unable to produce the creativity that Amelia makes. If Ame does it, it's kino, if anyone does it, it's unoriginal and they should unironically graduate

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>Anything Amelia does is /vt/ approved and will be seen as creative, original and innovative, everyone will kneel and everyone will shit talk Cover, Yagoo, Nijisanji, Kizuna, Kson and everyone else in the industry for being incompetent and unable to produce the creativity that Amelia makes. If Ame does it, it's kino, if anyone does it, it's unoriginal and they should unironically graduate

>> No.15420073

>>15419962
>Noooo why don’t people just agree with me!!!

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>>15414267
Seriously though, are there even any vtubers out there that have done stuff like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jl9PAdb9HM, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h_KXJwu47A, or her horror arcs? I think there might be some Nijis who have incorporated some genuine horror into their streams, but afaik creating a series of pseudo-ARG horror story-oriented streams, messing with the viewers' psyche by bringing in another person that cannot be seen or heard without explaining anything, or streaming a philosophical art performance is pretty never seen before in vtubers.

If anything, experimenting with the vtubering platform to see what's possible and pushing the boundary should be celebrated, as it brings/encourages innovation, which is something that the vtuber industry badly needs.

>> No.15420178

>>15420073
Oh the irony.

>> No.15420212

>>15419939
oh you're back from your ban? keep shitting up threads so that your posts get deleted again and to go back to being banned.
>>15419962
trying to have civilized discussion shouldn't be considered "coping" really, there were some decent points made but sadly most of it is just buffoonery and nonsensical arguments.

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>Oh the irony.

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>>15420212
>oh you're back from your ban? keep shitting up threads so that your posts get deleted again and to go back to being banned.
>trying to have civilized discussion shouldn't be considered "coping" really, there were some decent points made but sadly most of it is just buffoonery and nonsensical arguments.

>> No.15420349

>>15420175
She really has done alot of stuff that’s way outside the box. I think most of her phases kind of come on a whim though. I guarantee most the rap stuff was entirely off a whim due to La+ actually responding to her

>> No.15420459 [DELETED] 

>>15420175
>lol randumb shitposts
>muh creative artist
Imagine actually believing this shit.

>> No.15420593

>>15420459
This is how you know someone hasn’t actually watched her stuff

>> No.15420622

>>15420349
La+ is already ignoring her.
I'm sure Haachama obsession scared La+
https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1474735600091951105

>> No.15420681 [DELETED] 

>>15420593
This is how you know someone is overdosing on copium.

>> No.15420697

>>15420593
don't mind him anon, he's the schizo who keeps replying to everyone in /hw/...though he'll probably get banned again soon

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>>lol randumb shitposts
>>muh creative artist
>Imagine actually believing this shit.

>> No.15420824 [DELETED] 

>>15420697
Never left haatard. You can't get rid of truth no matter how much you seethe.

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>Never left haatard. You can't get rid of truth no matter how much you seethe.

>> No.15420925 [DELETED] 

>>15419713
>>15419967
>>15420040
>>15420761
Umm, based soijak poster?

>> No.15420935

>>15420697
I’ve noticed he keeps crying cope in every thread. It’s kind of funny to watch someone make a retard of themselves

>> No.15421021

>>15420697
You sound like you belong on reddit.

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>>15421021
>You sound like you belong on reddit.

>> No.15423391

>>15411313
> Yes, but then you could say that all the original songs of the Hololive members, are not their songs.
Most professional artists don’t write their own shit, that’s just the nature of the beast.

>> No.15423524

>>15411963
I mean the others have done plenty of late night off collabs, so how is that stopping them? A fair chunk of the JPs are on the same shitty sleep cycle.

>> No.15424028

>>15420175
Imagine actually typing this shit out with a straight face.

>> No.15424103

>>15415263
>If she herself had said that she was forbidden
she literally did

>> No.15424547

>>15424103
Where did she say that? Honest question. Is her stuff too off brand for the new golden children?

>> No.15424809

>>15424028
they are correct though...there are hundreds of zatsudan/game/karaoke that are done in a standardized format you can watch right now, if you don't want to watch haachama's unique format on it then fuck off and go watch those. Its truly this simple.

>> No.15425037

>>15420175
I love Haachama, but you can't take the two streams and put them in the same place.
Karaoke with Error-chan is one of the best karaoke in a long time, her other stream is just a shitpost karaoke and honestly it's a big step backwards. If we compare these streams.

>> No.15425083

>>15424809
>philosophical art performance
Imagine actually typing this shit out with a straight face.

>> No.15425276

>>15418963
>streams are so good
no faggot, you just have haachama on a pedestal in your mind, she is carried by the actual talents in hololive

>> No.15425411

>>15420175
>are there even any vtubers out there that have done stuff like
everything, the art, the concept, ideas, comes from the fans, nothing Haachama does is original

>> No.15425428

>>15409947
Karaoke while cruising on the Wangan at +120 mph / +200 km/h.

>> No.15426738

>>15424547
it was earlier in the year before the hiatus in june. it was so long ago i cant remember exactly when or if it was a member stream or not, but she basically said that her mom doesn't let her have people over/ let holos over to collab. you might have ask in the Haachama world thread for a better answer

>> No.15426911

>>15426738
Do nips usually still live with their parents through college? I guess I was under the impression that college stuff plus general chama chaos made collabs difficult

>> No.15426976

>>15409903
She need to kill herself

>> No.15427042

>>15409903
Foot streaming
it's like hand cam streaming but foot

>> No.15427177

>>15427042
She already did that. Watch the exercise pad cooking stream

>> No.15427513

>>15426911
>Do nips usually still live with their parents through college?
yes, if the uni is in the same town and is relatively close japs usually live with their parents while going to uni, and i think japs are more likely to live with their parents in general if they are not married

>> No.15428405

>>15409903
She has been by herself for too long. Time to break isolation and do some group creative activities

>> No.15428608

>>15409947
Gallery design, her personal trip pic, Japan museum/resort introduction. I can't believe people donate fanbox for that, still beautiful tho

>> No.15429060

I lift for hachama

>> No.15429158

>>15429060
based, don't forget to get a beard as well if you can, chammers likes them

>> No.15432022

>>15429158
you sure?

>> No.15433222

>>15409947
Yakasuni shrine visit/prayer stream

>> No.15433587

It beat pekora. Maybe you're not a good judge.

>> No.15439373

>>15409903
graduate this bitch

>> No.15442235

>>15409947
winning anything against the viewer

>> No.15445622

>>15409947
She likes feet. She should do a toenail-painting stream. Haatons would cun buckets everytime she wriggles her toes.

>> No.15452322

flip

>> No.15459105

>>15445622
>Haatons would cun buckets
they will swallow shit and say is ice cream

>> No.15459485

>>15413196
As much as I'd like to see chammers in JAV, judging by how badly her family sperged out over the smelly feet shit I doubt it will happen. Matsuri on the other hand.

>> No.15459974

>>15459485
>judging by how badly her family sperged out over the smelly feet
i found chama after the feet thing, how did her family sperge out?

>> No.15459984

>>15445622
That would be amazing, cute, intimate, and hot for whoever is into feet. If only cover wasn't so autistic with the gloves thing.

>>15459105
How can you say you love her if won't eat her shit?

>> No.15460059

>>15459974
She probably exagerated the story a bit, but if I recall correctly her mom and her sister didn't exactly like it and her sister told her she would block her on line if she kept doing "weird fetish stuff". Did help that was around the same time she did the spicy ramen thing too.

>> No.15460278

>>15418011
>>15418063
>>15418156
based projections
https://grammarfactory.com/grammar-goodies/use-quotation-marks-like-an-expert/

>> No.15460465

>>15410900
Sandstorm mon with a switch move or suicide move
Endeavor Aron @ shell bell
EZ clap

>> No.15464308

Haachama's dial is always on 11, but the execution feels samey even if it's technically different, so it's both exhausting and repetitive. If you go by how every stream bracket starts it's usually
>Hype something up
>Follow through
>Hype up the rest of the week
>Cancel one stream
>Entire bracket cancelled
>Dramatic cancelbait stream, zatsudan where she says she'll work to do more and sets out a bunch of goals.
Say what you will about other members doing flavor of the week bs, but at least it's time to cooldown, get to know the person streaming. Haachama doesn't have that beyond those "comeback" streams and it feels disingenuous because it's always the same points.
The horror arc was great, but that atmosphere should have fucked off months ago. Ever since her school started back up I can't shake the feeling Haachama doesn't want to be doing this and won't connect meaningfully to anything beyond her weird act because she doesn't know how to drop something she no longer cares about.
Also she won't do ASMR frequently anymore and I'm fucking livid

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>>15411391
She literally is an entertainer, a modern circus monkey

>> No.15467912

>>15413851
>Or average at least.
but she is though

>> No.15468686

>>15464308
>Say what you will about other members doing flavor of the week bs, but at least it's time to cooldown, get to know the person streaming. Haachama doesn't have that beyond those "comeback" streams and it feels disingenuous because it's always the same points.
this

>> No.15471318

all i want is for Haachama to drop out of university

>> No.15476107

>>15464449

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