/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Did Coco intentionally say Taiwan to piss off China?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15385125
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

Wouldn't surprise me if she did it to take away fire from Haachama, to be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

I guess. That doesn't seem to have done anything to the NijiEN males though. I guess it's who is paying you on the back end that determines if you're protected or not.

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>>15385125
In your fantasy, seaniggs. You will never be Chinese no matter how hard you dogeza.

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>>15385125
Yes, she's retarded like that

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>>15385125
She never said Taiwan.
She just show Youtube analytic.

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>>15385125
Did China intentionally use a shitty excuse to cancel Coco?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15385125
The bugmen will say yes, but they never have the clip evidence

[Anonymous No.]

>>15385447
No

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>>15385125
yea cover axed her because she's ruining their image

[Anonymous No.]

I hope so. Fuck China.

[Anonymous No.]

god damn it haachama...how many more threads are we going to get about this?

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>>15385447
Not China but Bilibili. They did this so that they could groom their local Vtuber market.

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>>15385125
The fact that zhangs breached the great firewall of china just to watch Holos and get offended is always hilarious to watch. They could have enjoyed everything TWbros got but they chose to isolate themselves like Feudal
japan.

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>>15385986
It’s also hilarious how they managed to get Coco fired from Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>Did a 30+ year old woman with a decade of corporate wageslave experience intentionally fuck up the international business relations of her employer as a goof?
>Did an adult earning over one million dollars salary to play video games risk her job to make a high schooler feel better about getting banned on a chinese website that she didn't even really use?
These are some great questions anon.

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>>15385353
this, these faggots didn't even watch that stream. Coco saying Taiwan is a fucking mandela effect.

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>>15385447
Yes. It was an attempt to clean non-CN vtube companies off of Bilibili, starting with Hololive, because they were the biggest and even original Chinese vtubers struggled against them.

Since you can go there and still see clips of Gura dwarfing literally all other vtuber content, you can tell that it didn't work. It was another hairbrained ploy by some overpaid government official who probably thought he was playing 4D Chess against Japan when he was doing it.

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>>15386083
It’s also hilarious that they are now known as little faggots that get assblasted over one word.

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>>15385125
I don't think so, she just said what was in the country list

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>>15385986
I had always assumed the reason anyone knew at all was because of clips posted on Bilibili, nobody at the time was throwing a fit about it and people only 'found out' almost a week later.

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>>15386083
Even funnier is how Cover would rather disband their entire CN branch than kowtow to the Chinks.

And even funnier than that is how all of the Holos are constantly dropping references and tributes to Coco to fan approval while the CN holos have been completely forgotten (unless they're the butt of a joke, of course).

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>>15386385
Regardless of if it was intentional or not, that was a 200 IQ move.

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>>15386235
>>15385961
This, and I'll say the only reason Anycolor wasn't hit with the same bullshit is because it became clear the Hololive shit backfired HARD on the zhangs at Bilibili and trying the same thing with two gigantic vtuber companies would make even the dumbest zhang supremacist re-think his priorities. They were genuinely not expecting that much backlash.

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>>15385447
Honestly the whole incident was probably a power play by Bilibili that went bad. Most people don't remember but Cover was already starting to have issues with the bugs running their Bilibili channels, with said bugs asking for more and more privileges and exclusivity (such as a direct line to the talent).

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>>15386474
I'm not sure if it was 200IQ, it was the correct move at the time to cut off the limb that had become gangrenous.
It's 200IQ now because Xi is hell-bent on banning all fun, and Hololive would have had to pivot anyway, regardless.

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>>15386155
Ironically Haato, who actually did say Taiwan, is remembered by many Anons as instead showing a Taiwanese flag and a graph listing several other countries due to an edited picture that was shared in a news report. Like 99% of that Anons talking about this shit were not around for those streams and are now constantly spreading misinformation.

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>>15386593
>Massive new pile of CCP regulations on Vtubers literally days after Cover had pulled out

Yagoo has some absurd luck.

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>>15386738
Not sure if you're being ironic

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>>15386593
I'm amazed on how much Xi is undoing all the effort done by his predecessors to let China be competitive globally. China is a sinking ship.

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>>15387039
>China is a sinking ship.

Not quite. But yeah, Xinnie seems to be squandering the foundation that Deng built, rather than expanding upon it.

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>>15386562
It's weird how in the West there is this Bilibili conspiracy theory, while the hardcore zhangs hate Bilibili. In reality, Hololive and Bilibili were business partners, Bili didn't want them to leave, they lost free money.

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>>15387039
There's a school of thought that since they clearly control the majority of manufacturing in the world, what is actually required now are soldiers, not consumers. If imperialism is the desired outcome, that is.
This is probably a poor choice if true.

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>>15387039

Evil regimes always go this way. Hopefully sooner or later some Zhang Coco fan with the rare Soul leads a revolution one day remember all that they took away from him. Just a few more like that and the world will be a much better place

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>>15385125
No. People will say it was to take off the pressure off Haachama but that would be false considering even the chinks thought Haachama's fuck up was because she is predisposed to being retarded. In reality Coco did it for a narcissistic boost that back fired on her, and caused the Changs to become turbo insects.

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>>15387187
Bilibili bends to the hardcore zhangs, though.

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>>15385125
Ask me if I care what China thinks.

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>>15387523
Reality doesn't matter to the zhangs. They are mad about a conspiracy theory they have that the CEO or whatever is going to try to get Hololive back and streaming again as soon as possible.

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>>15385125
mentioning Taiwan will disappoint the Zhang bugs and they will leave you, but challenging and telling them to fuck off will make them attack with full force. Coco might still be around if she chose to ignore the Zhang bugs instead of challenging them then

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>>15388097

>Could you perhaps compromise in the face of evil and let us influence you?

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>>15388097
I think it would have only been a matter of time. Wasn't AsaCoco cancelled before the Taiwan incident?

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>>15385125
>watame just down in the corner thinking about cocks

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>>15385125
Chink bug nigger, she didn't even say that.

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>>15386500
>we thought the zhangs were swarming
>but it was actually burgers and nips

Are we the "bad" guys?

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>>15386235
Bilibili forced Hololive out of the market, that was their goal. Niji JP aren't taking away that many views from their locally owned vtubers.

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>>15387498
>show analytics FROM Youtube
>doesn't even mention Taiwan
>somehow it's Coco's fault for hurting the feelings of bugs
?????

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>>15385125
i don't care because i don't have yellow skin

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>>15385125
The dumbass wanted to piss off management for not standing for haachama and thought she was untouchable because of her numbers, really stupid move

[Anonymous No.]

Coco is a CIA Agent who was sent to Japan by Obama to subvert Japan internally with shit American culture because Japan was BTFO'ing the US in every single metric possible

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>>15387187
> should ban 1 month normally.
> shutdown all Hololive channels instead.
> Bilibili translation group rebellion
> NGA and Asoul

Bilibili is true villain here

[Anonymous No.]

Mori > Calli

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>>15389647
Maybe not "every" metric

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>>15385353
>>15386155
>>15386608
Um.. Retards? Or reddit newfags?
https://youtu.be/FOEgA_qAxcs?t=24s

[Anonymous No.]

>>15385125
>>15385167
>>15385198
>>15385313
>>15389552
Coco was doing an unarchived karaoke stream when her asacoco got privated.
She didn't even know there was an issue with what she said.
Here is her reaction to it -
https://streamable.com/10ixnx

Get better rrats

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>>15392669
True and I stayed with her at that time

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The Taiwan yab has always been a scapegoat, Coco always had Zhang haters because she was completely different to any other member Hololive had plus she was a foreigner so that doubly pissed off the Zhangs. Her showing Taiwan in analytics just gave them something to pounce on, as them not caring as much when Haato did it.

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>>15394716
complete scapegoat
main reason was because their "fan group" demands were not getting enough attention from cover. Also the "free" work they did for cover is bullshit, the translator fags did translation streams where they would solicit donations and shill their own vtubing avatars.

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>>15386608
I always find it funny that Mr. Koro got away with saying Taiwan after that

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>>15395569
power level too high

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>>15395569
When did that happen?

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>>15385125
You don't need to intentionally do something to piss off China it's just matter of time

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>>15385125
Not everyone is aware of the political situation of every country. For a while I wasn't even aware that Taiwan isn't recognized as an independent country by a majority of the world. Even with that knowledge how would one know that it would piss of Chinese so extremely? It is kind of like accidentally pissing of a bunch of Serbs because you said something about Kosovo. I don't thing there was any kind of intention behind that incident, just her being careless.

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it's been over a year, fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2018/03/8065ccf530a2-publisher-withdraws-kids-cartoon-magazine-mocking-genghis-khan.html

Something comparable. A manga getting cancelled after pissing of Mongolia by making a dumb penis joke about Genghis Khan. The mangaka thought he was making a silly joke about a historical figure, unaware how much of a sensitive subject it is to Mongolians if you start insulting their national symbol.
Streamers are just entertainers, not politicians. Blissfully unaware of the situation they accidentally stepped on a landmine.

[Anonymous No.]

I love how chink open this thread and make coco sounds like a criminal who did something wrong.

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>>15385125
Gonna need to practice your necromancy some more anon. This rrat is still dead.

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>>15385125
Yes
And I refuse to believe otherwise.
ESPECIALLY after that haachama stream
>I was drowning and the dragon saved me
>Talking about how she should have never brought her analytics up
Haachama told us without telling us. Cover Corp will always say it was an accident because if it was on purpose to save haachama than that means coco basically told china to fuck off and die and Cover chose her over CN, meaning the antis will attack Cover harder.

Playing it off as an accident is damage control. But you just know.

Also it gives me major respect for coco and if it was an accident than i see her with significantly less value as a person ngl. Which wouldn't fit well with how every other holo depicts her as courageous and strong and aren't just saying it for kayfabe

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>>15386110
>Did an adult earning over one million dollars salary to play video games risk her job to make a high schooler feel better about getting banned on a chinese website that she didn't even really use?
Unironically yes. Because Something tells me she thought she could do it ez and fight her way through it but cover AND the zhangs sent her to hell

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>>15395731
https://youtu.be/YEN_ZXlktyM?t=356

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>>15400109
>Because Something tells me
The Winnie the Pooh in your head?

[Anonymous No.]

There is actually nothing wrong with mentioning Taiwan, the Chinese call it Taiwan too:
See a Nijisanji member talking about Taiwan by that name in a bilibili stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0kHGLrrrqU
or a Niji talking about travelling to Taiwan.

[Anonymous No.]

Official apology of the incident in Japanese and English

[Anonymous No.]

Official apology in Chinese, it added "we stand by the One China apology"
This made Chinese mad, why doesn't the English and Japanese apology say this? They consider those apologies PR bullshit.

This was the 2nd time they did something like this.

[Anonymous No.]

The narrative that "Coco did it to piss Chinese off/ cover (heh) for Haato" wasn't made up by the chinese either, it was a common theory by everyone at the time.

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[Anonymous No.]

Remember that Cover is the only company that officially said "We firmly support the One China policy"

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>>15385125
Reminder to kill all chinks.

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>>15403346
>>15403346
Oh NGA did anon. I can garantee this

> NGA dog planned attack Haachama
> Coco taiwan happened
> They screamed and tought Coco protect Haachama!

> Because in that fateful night ! CHINKS IN NGA WANT TO ATTACK HAACAHAMA IN THE FIRST PLACE!

That why this narrative begun

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>>15400078
Explain this
https://streamable.com/10ixnx

[Anonymous No.]

>>15400109
>Nothing surprises me on how stupid most people here are

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>>15387598
Is it true nobody cares about what china thinks

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>>15403642
She wasn't told by management that the video was going to be private and the hololive staff (who have access to their accounts) did it while she was streaming and she reacted.
Its that simple.

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>>15389647
Ogey

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>>15395037
Ok, Zhang

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>>15403642
>https://streamable.com/10ixnx
poor acting 3/10

[Anonymous No.]

amazing the bug is still doing their evil plan. Portray Cover as evil company!

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>>15402942
>call it Taiwan too:
>See a Nijisanji member talking about Taiwan by that name in a bilibili stream
>https://www.youtube.com/
Exactly, it's hilarious how many idiots in this thread think that taiwan is a banned word. It's only bad if you imply that it's a country.
In the coco clip, the title of the analytics is "top countries" or thereabouts implying that taiwan=country

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>>15408377
It is a country, arguably the true mainland of china

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>>15408492
Yeah, but the moment you start to imply Taiwan as a country, that's when the nationalists start to hate it

Oh and the flag too, you may not mention its name or imply it as a country. But they'll be pissed if they see that Taiwan flag.

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>>15385260
*rapes you*

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>>15388863
No it was self defense

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>>15408377
>>15408492
But that in itself wasn't what caused the shitstorm, it was the continuous fuck ups by Cover and the fact everyone believed Coco did it intentionally, not by accident. They weren't asking for Haato to be punished for example, only Coco, the Chinese bilibili/youtube sub group HololiveMoments even complained about Haato's suspension when both Coco and her got suspended.


Another funny thing that happened is when Gwelu from Nijisanji made a stream talking and explaining about the politics of China and Taiwan, and Bilibili actually thought it was funny and clipped it over there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM9jzrj7HCM

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>>15410054
kill yourself, mentally ill chink bug. this damn board should ban chink bug topics. its irrelevant as fuck and none of these threads are related to anything in the current vtuber industry or anything in cover.

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>>15410197
>>15403411
I literally criticized Cover for bending the knee to China, the thread is about if Coco show the statistics intentionally or not, and Haato just made a video talking about the incident.
Go watch some clips about the girls making dumb noises, since that's all your brain can handle.

[Anonymous No.]

why are we talking about this again?
why /vt/ never understand?
we had talked about this for over a year now, wasn't it already clear?
shame on you all biting on this bait thread.

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>>15410054
I get the impression that the Chinese audience didn't like Coco before the incident. Her personality and style of humor already didn't make her popular over there, but her being an American in a Japanese group was probably seen as a bad influence. All those things made them easily believe the narrative that she did it on purpose.

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>>15392669
Her reaction wasn't because she didn't expected to stir shit, her reaction was because she wasn't expecting to be punished for it
Coco was already pushing a bunch of shit in hololive because she thought to be untouchable, and she was right to some degree, but the dumbass didn't knew how big of a fight she bought

[Anonymous No.]

holy timewarp, when did it become 2020 again with all this retarded faggotry and believing zhang rrats. you should all be ashamed you're being this retarded.
OP, you in particular, kill yourself for wasting board space like this.