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>> No.15205539

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.15205592

The tickets for the holostars concert sold out btw

>> No.15205628

>>15205592
Source?
Good for them if true.

>> No.15205650

>>15205628
Oga just mentioned it on stream

>> No.15205657

>>15205164
All of their channels.
5 man prophunt, 5 POVs.
It's why i called it their first real test. This determines both who's got the biggest pull and what kind of numbers they can manage to get in probably the most garbage timeslot given what we've seen of their numbers.

>> No.15205669

https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1474427790477127680?t=olUfs_lxXvZLIR5hF1eW_w&s=19 seems like marine is panicking and has gone hard pandering to gachis after her recent lower than usual numbers (yes i know she literally just had a 70k hours ago)

>> No.15205680
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Reminder that dead sub posters are newfags.

>> No.15205688
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15205688

The numbers thread is doing something very dishonest. Averaging together all livestreamers from each branch.

This is dishonest because most nijisanji JP talents only have a modest audience. Many of them only stream once a week or less. Pic related for example is doing an eternal marathon stream, where he keeps his stream on 24 hours a day 7 days a week until his PC breaks. And he is included in the nijisanji average. Overall Nijisanji has twice as many talents as hololive.

So your charts are averaging together lots of fairly weak and noncommittal streamers. If you want things to be fair, stick to averaging the top 10, or top 25 streamers please.

>> No.15205689

>>15205524
Coco, Chris, Aloe, chinks, Sick guy, trap, beyblade guy...We'll never forget you.

>> No.15205712

>>15205689
Who the fuck is Chris?

>> No.15205717

>>15205680
Is this a niji?

>> No.15205731
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15205731

Here's the line up for tonight for NijiEN.
>>15205680
Her subs were actually going down for a while

>> No.15205743

>>15205688
lots of words you've got there for cope bud

>> No.15205755

>>15205688
Tough shit, don't carry so much deadweight. How about we average just the top 5 and see who comes out ahead?

>> No.15205773

>>15205717
How new?
She was pretty popular until her scandal. She's been irrelevant ever since.

>> No.15205800

>>15205688
His meme stream is still only 1 single stream though, it's not going to affect the average in any way
And there's literal who ID Nijis that get even lower than his meme stream.

>> No.15205816

>>15205731
Reimu is coming dangerous close to having some asshole from like Phase Connect beating her. She would have had more success joining WACTOR.

>> No.15205859

>>15205731
Pomu always takes a hit when she overlaps Ina, probably 800 or so less than what she could get without that problem.

>> No.15205860

>>15205688
>"I WILL TURN THIS THREAD INTO A HOUSE OF LIES TO COPE FOR MY BRACH'S GARBAGE STREAMERS!!"
Go larp to /nasfaq/, rratarded numbernigger.

>> No.15205893

>>15205688
Someone did do the numbers iirc.
Hololive still stomped the living shit out of Nijisanji because then you're cutting the dead weight of Hololive out of the equation too.

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>>15205755
If these charts are to be taken at face value, Nijisanji JP is only a small fraction the popularity o hololive JP. And yet I have seen Nijisanji JP get 150,000 concurrent viewers on their main channel before.

>> No.15205950

>pekora noticed her reclining numbers
>no streams after the new outfit buff wore off
>decides not to stream during the 性の6時間 knowing her numbers would be low
>only way to possibly save her numbers is a big drama from not streaming during the 6 hours
>if the drama blows up in her face she can blame the low numbers on the drama instead of her reclining naturally
sasuga number bunny

>> No.15205964

>>15205773
damn, I remember her collabs with Peko long back, they were cute... what happened with her?

>> No.15205969

>>15205910
How new?
Are you not aware of the issue NijiJP has with being known as Tourist Central?
The viewers show up for big event, then fuck off until the next big event, not even bothering to watch day to day streams.

>> No.15205983

>15205669
kys dramatranny

>> No.15205986
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>>15205893
Nijisanji has 2x the number of talents overall. A smarter way to do this might be to simply sum all of the live viewers for each company at any given time and take an average of that. For example, add up all the viewers in pic related, and that becomes the viewer total for nijisanji as a whole at that moment

>> No.15206000

>>15205688
If you knew math you would understand that 1 stream going from 200 viewers to 30 means nothing to his average. He doesn't even get that much anyway.

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15206013

Reminder that /rrat/ exist and this is /#/.

>> No.15206020

>>15205964
The scandal was pretty much, she was found to hire someone to play the FPS games as her. It basically killed her channel.

>> No.15206045

>>15205910
Niji daily streams do only attract only a fraction of Hololive's audience, while their big event streams get a lot of views concentrated into one place. That's reflected in any chart.

>> No.15206046

>>15200440
made this shitty python script to calculate holo total sc from holoyzer
https://pastebin.com/p984hXQf
I used hololyzer because it already converted everything into yen but holy hell, did the dev try his best to make everything difficult.
Also is there any site that records the SC for nijis?

>> No.15206061

>>15205986
Okay you are definitely new.
Because we've done so.
Routinely, Hololive mogs Niji or at best, they manage to tie with Hololive when there's 3-4 streams vs 15+ for Niji.

>> No.15206088

>>15206020
Japanese SSSniperwolf?

>> No.15206097

>>15206020
bummer.. half the fun of watching the girls play is them playing like toddlers and raging about it..

>> No.15206103

stop replying to numbernigger bait/stop replying to your own bait

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>>15206061
I do not have your autism. I do not stick in this thread, and after I leave this post I will probably not return here for a month or more
Ciao! ~

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Holoen resurrection arc when

>> No.15206269

>>15206020
It really is a shame because Hinata herself is pretty cute and entertaining, and if they were transparent or turned it into a tongue in cheek bit when they started it would have been fine, but since her entire success came from starting right in the PUBG explosion it monkey pawed her into the grave. I really hope she recovers somehow even if it is unheard of for the old 2018 crowd.

>> No.15206330

>>15206269
The best way would be to reincarnate into a relevant agency. These people trying to hang on because "my channel has a million subs!" are holding onto a dead past.

>> No.15206354

>>15205669
Why are telling the numbers thread that you don't watch Marine?

>> No.15206372
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How much money does streamlabs take in commission? Is it beneficial for the streamer and viewer?

>> No.15206390

>>15206182
Probably not until January.
Mori + Gura collab original
Reflect MV (Date TBD, it's done but Gura's going to max numberfag the release of this because she cares about it)
After the Mario Kart Tourney
Probably around when the next MC arc begins in earnest once holox joins the HoloServer.

>> No.15206421

>>15206164
kek<span class="fortune" style="color:#01d0aa">

Your fortune: You're on the Elf Watchlist.</span>

>> No.15206522

>>15206182
>Holoen resurrection arc when
When the girls start giving a shit about their numbers, so probably never for Council and unlikely for Myth.

>> No.15206539

>>15206372
Stream labs takes 10%. From a purely numerical perspective its better for the streamer to make use of stream labs, hence why Coco pushed for it back in the day, but you lose out on the bandwagon effect. And also that's assuming stream labs doesn't fuck up like the subscription thing awhile back.

>> No.15206554

>>15206372
No cuts on streamlabs part, but paypal takes a flat 30 cents + 2-3%?
However, you're at the mercy of anyone wanting to fuck you over by doing charge-backs, you don't get the same GLOWING SUPERCHAT BUTTON to stimulate SC trains, etc.
There's probably some behind-the-scenes arguments as to why Hololive insists on sticking to just YT SCs for JP/EN because even Kson sticks to just YT SCs even though at one point she tried advocating for streamlabs. Clearly whatever arguments management had were convincing enough that the point was never brought up again.

>> No.15206569

>>15206372
it takes very little (i think 1%) the problem is that it has no protection against charge backs. one of the vshoujo girls got fucked hard by some dude donating 1K$ and charging it back resulting in her paypal acc being frozen for some time

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>>15205688
>Pic related for example is doing an eternal marathon stream, where he keeps his stream on 24 hours a day 7 days a week until his PC breaks. And he is included in the nijisanji average.
Not in my charts, it isn't. His stream only counted for the day it was released.

>If you want things to be fair, stick to averaging the top 10, or top 25 streamers please.
There is one even better way to gauge that: just not to average them at all and just post the list of all streamers from either company.
>WHICH THIS THREAD ALREADY DOES

Trust me, it does not make NIjisanji to look any better than the average chart, it just highlights either how top have the company is, or how it is exactly as the average shows, with Toya, Kuzuha, Lize, Mito, Fuwa, Yashiro, Kane, Ange, Hayato and Ibrahim being the exceptions.

>> No.15206610

>>15206372
>"watered"
heh

>> No.15206680

>>15206602
dont reply to bait chartanon, or theyll keep coming back

>> No.15206702

>>15206372
Experienced streamers don’t use it because you VERY easily get fucked.
The general rule of thumb is that you don’t touch your PayPal money for 90 days in case someone decides to fuck you because PayPal WILL freeze your account and take your money.

>> No.15206722

>>15206554
In kson's case it's probably charge back protection because, you know, chinks.
For cover I'm pretty sure they just want to curry favour with youtube by not undercutting their profit margins by using a third party payment processor. To be fair youtube is alot more responsive to them than they are to, say, nijisanji, but who knows how much of role that actually plays in that.

>> No.15206741

>>15206602
>3.68 mil subs
>only 23k median peak
>could be even lower if it weren't for the costume reveal
>only 6th place in highest median peak
CHUMBOTS ROLL OUT!

>> No.15206751

>>15206390
Council is even getting in on the action for EN in January. Mumei is finally releasing her original song with an MV.

>> No.15206756

Daily Chloe update: Sakamata Chloe now has $223,659 in total superchats and just 14 days after her monetization is the 96th most superchatted vtuber ever. Today she surpassed
>Ichinose Uruha (again)
>Belmond Banderas
>Nui Sociere
>Shirayuri Lily
>Rindou Mikoto

>> No.15206775

>>15206330
Her biggest number streams come from the gacha shooter game she got put into years ago and she seemed really happy when all her fans loaded in with her character and messed around.

Also a reason I think more of the 2018 crowd who fell off a cliff haven't done that is it would feel awkward for everyone involved to treat one of the OGs from the dawn of vtubing as a newfag.

>> No.15206785

>>15206554
Donating via streamlabs also take more clicks than donating via Youtube, that's a big no for the majority of people.

>> No.15206793

>>15206539
Actually the reason she pushed for it is that Youtube is capricious and can remove your monetization at any moment. It was a period where Mel/Choco/Haato/Noel/Matsuri had all been demonetized (some of them for like half a year or so) and Kanata/Coco hadn't passed the check for some unknown reason. Even a while after all of that was fixed Marine ended up losing it for about a week.

>> No.15206838

>>15206751
Too bad Mumei is one girl and her back isn't strong enough to carry Sana, Bae and Fauna.

>> No.15206877

>>15206756
Great rundown, please continue doing that for the time being. It will be a nice time capsule if (more like when) she gets to the top positions

>> No.15206886

>>15206751
>with an MV
i dont remember her saying that part

>> No.15206919

>>15206793
Thanks for the clarification.
I had forgotten the specifics reasoning, but that definitely tracks with what I remember happening.
But yea, chargebacks no doubt are not worth the hassle and letting YT take their bloody money is no doubt beneficial to both Hololive and Kson since not having to deal with those sorts of issues means a lot less time wasted dealing with fucking Paypal, which is notorious for being a colossal pain to deal with.

>> No.15206932

I just realized something.
Haachama did a "face reveal" with a monkey mask one month after the robot stream yab, with the exact same steam type.
This means search strings like "haachama face reveal" and "haachama robot face reveal" etc will now lead to the new "meme reveal" clips and bury the actual doxxfag videos where no one can find them, and most of the usual SEA culprits obviously won't bother going to JP sites to get doxx. She just wiped out a bunch of her doxx from youtube visibility with this move.
Haachama is playing 4D schizo chess and is a genius at it.

>> No.15206981

>>15206775
I mean, Polka did it and she even collabed with the same people she collabed with before, it's not that big of a deal.
The bigger issue is that redebuting is not a magical cure to their issues, it's very possible to redebut and end up with a lower cap than you had on your old account, especially nowadays with the market this saturated

>> No.15206986

>>15206838
At least Bae is starting to hit her stride now and Kronii isn’t completely half-assing it right now, so it’s not like November where she had to carry her entire gen.

>> No.15207020

>>15206981
Polka still hasn't collabed with Tamaki yet.

>> No.15207026

>>15206919
>, which is notorious for being a colossal pain to deal with.
The problem is that PayPal lives by the 'the costumer is always right' motto, even when the costumer is full of shit.

>> No.15207030

>>15206838
How the hell would you even lift Fauna? (Sana is a lost cause)

>> No.15207062

>>15206932
That's why she was behaving like a schizo months ago. She was trying to think like them so she can win them on the own game

>> No.15207075

>vox has more people waiting than mysta outside of sea hours
kek

>> No.15207090

>>15206981
Well in this case unless you get into Hololive there isn't really chance at a revival. Being a nijigirl would probably end up with the same numbers and getting into hololive even as an old big name is difficult for many reasons especially how the standard has ratcheted up every generation. I can't imagine her or other oldies getting chosen over holoX for example.

>> No.15207100

>>15207020

Yeah but she started interacting with Kotone again. I think Tamaki is just a matter of time

>> No.15207107

>>15207030
Well a simple fix is to get her to play more Minecraft on the fucking server instead of doing her meme speedrun streams
But really Fauna isn't that bad of a streamer, just look at the table

>> No.15207127

>>15207030
Fauna can get good numbers if she stops being such a loner. Do more collabs + play minecraft on the holoserver instead of boring speedruns

>> No.15207130
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>>15206932
She actually doesn't care a great deal about said "doxx".
She had flirted with disaster before with her accidental "arm" reveal
>webm related
and didn't flinch, the face reveal was the natural consequence of lack of care (in both senses).

I truly doubt anyone will recognize her in the streets from the reflection so it's not a matter of safety.
There is always the breakdown from the "suspension of disbelief" of a 2D character suddenly disclosing the 3D puppeteer from behind the avatar but I don't think Haachama or the audience she didn't filter with the schizolore cares about that.

For most of her die hard Haaton she's the retarded daughter that is always messing stuff up but they entertain her and help her whatever way they can so she can be happy.

>> No.15207142

>>15206986
>At least Bae is starting to hit her stride now and Kronii isn’t completely half-assing it right now,
Bae is not doing great CCV wise though, but her SCs improved a lot. Kronii is doing well this month, she just needs to stop playing debuff games and focus more on Minecraft and zatsu to help Mumei carry the other 3.

>> No.15207143

>>15206554
>whatever arguments management had
Their argument was that they were afraid it may get them banned from Youtube. It doesn't make much sense but that's what they said. I assume they were afraid of using alternative methods because there had been a bit of drama over a similar thing over in Nijisanji. Cover did agree about Streamlabs at first but then when Quarterpounder got everyone their monetization back they got cold feet.

As for why she's not using it, beats me. She likely just grew too fond of the supacha culture her fans created.

>> No.15207148

>>15206919
Youtube superchats are easier to send than streamlabs. They might be giving out 30%, but without sc, they would be getting only a fraction of what they currently get

>> No.15207194

>>15207143
>As for why she's not using it,
Anon you do remember the chinks have a hate boner for her, right?

>> No.15207203

>>15206919
Here's a scenario for you.
Chloe uses streamlabs instead of SC, makes what 500k by then?
Gets a few chargebacks by an anti or troll.
Paypal freezes her account and possibly bans her, essentially taking all the money.

>> No.15207211

>>15207194
Streamlabs is chink?

>> No.15207213

>>15207030
She needs to start singing break up songs and be sad for a while, instant +500$ and +1k CCV per stream right there.

>> No.15207256

>>15207203
as a former streamer i had no issues with chargeback protection from stream labs and that was years ago. I think paypal has more than enough experience to side with streamers now unlike the old days.

>> No.15207265

>>15207211
Stream labs has no chargeback protection, so any enterprising chink could fuck up her entire PayPal just by donating 10k dollars and demanding a chargeback, see >>15207203

>> No.15207281

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN5u1MGyKGk fubuki has been putting out the hours this month with good ccv too, how does this compare to pekora's strongest months in hours watched?

>> No.15207286

Number prediction for this Christmas night Karaoke stream from Chloe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSRNmV6WCs0

>> No.15207304

>>15207211
No, but chinks can easily abuse streamlabs to fuck her over if she started using it for a significant part of her donations
See >>15207203

>> No.15207321

>>15207256
The only thing they don't do nowadays is ban your account outright. Your account still gets frozen, possibly for months and that's still a royal pain in the butt to sort out

>> No.15207333

>>15207194
That's been a non-issue for a long time. I don't remember the specifics but the Playism thing was just them enormously overreacting to some random bilibili streamer saying he wouldn't restream it.

>> No.15207345

>>15207020
I'm thinking they're interacting plenty behind the scenes.
But yeah it's been a year, I hope we can see it happen. It's gonna be a real nice moment for any oldfag from that time.

>> No.15207346

>>15207286
weird timing, 12k

>> No.15207354

>Hololive lost the silver
Is it over for us holosisters?

>> No.15207368

>>15207256
Veibae STILL got dicked over by the ol' chargeback schtick iirc (It was her or another one of the vshojo gals). Yes, she got it resolved after a few days, but that's a few days without donations coming in. Now imagine the headache of having to deal with that if you had a group of dedicated antis who DGAF (mainland chinks)

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>>15207286
>right after karaoke relay
Why doesn't she participate in the relay?

>> No.15207371

>>15206877
I will whenever she overtakes someone, they're fun to do and interesting to see just how quickly she's racing to the top. I just wish I was enough of a numberfag to have done the same when Coco first came on the scene, I bet she obliterated the much weaker competition back then.

>> No.15207392

>>15207333
Nice try Zhang, go peddle your bullshit somewhere more retarded where people might believe it

>> No.15207405

>>15207286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULeDlxa3gyc
>>15207369
19:20 blindchama

>> No.15207412

>>15207256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsNjdpwhc3c
happened this year if i remember right.

>> No.15207422

so, daily chart/sc chart for yesterday doko?

>> No.15207429

>>15207369 (Me)
>>15207405
Wait I'm blind, so she will do another karaoke stream after the realy finished.

>> No.15207438

>>15207369
is there any holox listed there?

>> No.15207445

>>15207256
Nobody bothers with screwing you, but popular streamers, specially holos, have a lot of antis
Just look at how chinks spent money to wheelbarrow hololive streams by buying bots accounts from russians

>> No.15207447

>>15207369
She is, anon, that's a different stream

>> No.15207462

>>15207438
Koyori, Lui and Chloe

>> No.15207467

>>15207438
everyone except Yamada.

>> No.15207489

>>15207438
Rui and Chloe

>> No.15207490

>>15207445
I mean my major paypig try to chargeback his biggest chunks but because he had paid me over a couple weeks and had no plausible deniability paypal canned him. But I see the donating huge quantity in one transaction still is abusable.

>> No.15207495

>>15207462
>Chloe
so shes doing 2 karaokes the same day? maybe she just got the time wrong for her relay

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>>15207438
Other than Laplus and Iroha

>> No.15207511

>>15206775
>Also a reason I think more of the 2018 crowd who fell off a cliff haven't done that is it would feel awkward for everyone involved to treat one of the OGs from the dawn of vtubing as a newfag.
She has no other recourse but to either reincarnate or to negotiate a deal to join a company (unlikely given the history of the account, but stranger things have happened). The question is... who would sign her in and what could they bring her as a talent?

>> No.15207513

>>15207422
Daily 10k+ streams chart here >>15201913
SC chart uh, I don't know where the anon who normally does it is, but they'll probably pop up later.

>> No.15207522

>>15207392
I like how tatsunkos first, second and last reaction to literally everything related to their waifu that isn't total worship is to call the poster either chink, Zhang or bugman.

>> No.15207545

>>15207511
Problem is that nips will find out who she is instantly.

>> No.15207548

>>15207522
who are you trying to fool chang

>> No.15207559

>>15207495

>maybe she just got the time wrong for her relay

No, she is smart. She will start her own karaoke 10 minutes before the last one from the relay (Miko), probably will end up with all the viewers after Miko end

>> No.15207561

>>15207490
Are you a vtuber or just a normal streamer?

>> No.15207568

>>15207522
Sure Zhang, keep going not all chinks, it'll really convince everyone you're not a chink.

>> No.15207572

>>15207495
She just want the ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING from Miko

>> No.15207587

>>15207522
That's not a tatsunoko, I'm one and I'm the person he's replying to. Not even sure what he's trying to accomplish.

>> No.15207607

>>15207561
Was just a normal streamer although i used a generic facerig to not dox myself and have something on screen.

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>>15207256
>I think paypal has more than enough experience to side with streamers now unlike the old days.
kek, keep believing that

>> No.15207667

>>15207587
Calling you out on your bullshit, amongst other things the chinks are still going apeshit on her twitter tags and on little witch Nobeta's steam page

>> No.15207675

>>15207422
>>15207513
SC chart comes out a little before 1am GMT, still got nearly 6 hours but I'll post it at the usual time. Spoilers: top 4 is I believe Fuwa, Rushia, Chigusa and Chloe, might have missed someone because a ton of people made a ton of money today

>> No.15207683

Pekora didn't stream today and lots of rrats have been infesting 4ch and 5ch.
Will this affect her numbers?

If she handles this poorly it might be a yab for her but even if that happens I don't think she'll be irrelevant. Maybe she'll be Gura tier in ccv until she do something to redeem herself.

>> No.15207687

>>15207587
Stop samefagging Zhang, you're not fooling anyone.

>> No.15207710

>>15207683
nah
most people know she lives with her family and probably spent the night with them

>> No.15207748

>15207683
pekoschizo is still trying it

>> No.15207751
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15207751

Current Numbers

>> No.15207758

>>15207687
could you fags not turn this into /hlg2/? its already bad enough that all the same shizoids keep showing up

>> No.15207761

>>15207667
You're talking about Coco's tags, not kson's.

>> No.15207772

>>15207545
That's my point. She has no choice. She would either have to very visibly kill the account for good and reincarnate with aims to do things right, or stick it through and cut a deal with some agency to get her current persona reformed.

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>>15207281
>how does this compare to pekora's strongest months in hours watched?
Here is the chart for 2021. Pekora so far has a stronger May (3.5M) than current fubuki (nearing 3.3M).

The wave Fubuki ride tho, damn! She had a sum total of around 3M hours watched for the whole period between August and November and she just casually obliterated it in December.

>> No.15207779

>>15207751
reimu...

>> No.15207782

>>15207683
Your attempts to turn this into a big drama is amusing but don't you have better things to do this Christmas eve?

>> No.15207796

>>15207751
manjisanji demolishing the girls, sasuga

>> No.15207817

>>15207683
eeeh nousagi know her situation. Just let the schizos chimp out for a bit, this is a non issue.

>> No.15207862

>>15207490
Yeah, but imagine having hundreds of those chargebacks at the same time

>> No.15207876

>replying to rratarded numberniggers
Why are you guys like this?

>> No.15207910

>>15207796
Yep, thought it looks like Luca isn't streaming his POV.
Mysta>Vox>Ike>Shu is the current numbers ranking for the 4 available POVs.

>> No.15207911

Unironically the whole chargeback thing is what crypto was invented for but the pajeetcoiners/bankers have ruined its reputation enough to not encourage casual use.

>> No.15207928

>>15207490
You also forget that PayPal makes you pay the processing fees for chargebacks which can be pretty significant so even if you get your account back within the hour you'll still be making a loss.
And as far as I'm aware PayPal doesn't offer unique protections for frequently spammed accounts<span class="fortune" style="color:#117eec">

Your fortune: The poster above you has been very very naughty!</span>

>> No.15207973

>>15207779
She's dead Jim

>> No.15207978

whats the record for most 10ks in a day? tomorrow should have a fuckton of them

>> No.15208009

>>15207751
Shun should just stay on jp/sea timezone and stream only on JP.

>> No.15208066

>>15207978
idk but they also did it on 2020, so theyd have to beat themselves

>> No.15208076
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15208076

Nijiboys with about 9.2k between them (and Reimu padding the missing 800 or so for a round 10k).

Three things
1) They seem to have expanded the market NijiEN market, and for obvious reasons (girls watching cute boys)
2) It remains to be seen how far will the current numbers last, debut buff and all
3) It also remains to be seen if the girls will benefit from it, not be affected or be affected negatively

>> No.15208087

>>15207778
Pekora reclined

>> No.15208124

>>15208066
Given that there are more relay members, they already beat 2020

>> No.15208165

>>15208066
2020 had 18 participants, this one has 27

>> No.15208207
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Mysta asserting dominance

>> No.15208214
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>>15207778
Fubuki's incline this month has been amazing.

>> No.15208242

>>15208165
someone has to go check it, those were not the only streams that happened on last christmas

>> No.15208253

>>15208207
Reimu….

>> No.15208271

>>15208207
How the fuck is Reimu getting such low numbers playing hotline Miami?

>> No.15208276

>>15208214
damn those total views look even more impressive

>> No.15208279

Mysta is fucking hilarious

>> No.15208305

>>15207778
i guess she would be around 3.5m after current stream

>> No.15208337

>>15208271
She doesn't speak spanish to make it a cartel simulator.

>> No.15208355

>>15208271
Girl in mansanji.

>> No.15208361

>nijihomos numbers
so only mysta and vox wont be 1k shitters.

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>>15208276
When was the last time someone had more views that Main channel?

>> No.15208367

>>15206886
She mentioned it in one of her zatsudans.

>> No.15208370

>>15208305
eh idk if one stream can do all that. For example she had more than 10 fishing streams, making them max 350k each, and they all had 30k live

>> No.15208391

>>15208271
She gets low numbers regularly when anyone else in the branch is streaming

>> No.15208401

>>15208363
When was the last time someone beat Gura growth outside of debut?

>> No.15208425

>>15208363
well laplus is close, i take it back

>> No.15208448

>>15208066
>>15208242
just checked it out on holostats, there were 40 10k+ streams in hololive alone

>> No.15208449

>>15208271
la fantasma keeps debuffing herself because she doesn't listen to our advice

>> No.15208456

>>15208305
>after current stream
Oh, shit, she didn't finish yet? Damn, the fox is going for the kill

>> No.15208485

>>15208207
Guess this is proof to be successful as a male in Nijisaji you have to be gay, the lowest people are all het.

>> No.15208501

>>15208448
you mean christmas 2020? holy lockdown, do you have the picture to post here?

>> No.15208503

>>15208363
Lui-nee has more views that Mori and other 3 Gen 6 what?

>> No.15208513

>>15208363
>>15208401
Not sure about views, but Coco was above Gura in sub growth for the graduation.

>> No.15208514

>>15208485
Elira's nepotism hire being the lowest one is the funny part.

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>>15208363
This really proves that goorah is getting buffed by the number 1 effect and people just sub to her because she is number 1.

>> No.15208533

>>15208401
Haachama schizo arc
Coco graduation

>> No.15208561

>>15207213
This. Gachi are insane and are happy to believe anything. I just hate Fauna for her not wanting fame or fortune. It makes me upset since she has potential but falls well short.<span class="fortune" style="color:#d0aa01">

Your fortune: Krampus is coming to your house!</span>

>> No.15208562

>>15208503
Shorts.

>> No.15208563

>>15208448
>just checked it out on holostats, there were 40 10k+ streams in hololive alone
Yep, here is the top 10 I have from Holostats

>40: 2020-12-25
>35: 2020-11-15
>33: 2021-01-01
>32: 2020-11-01
>32: 2020-10-24
>28: 2021-12-11
>27: 2020-11-03
>27: 2020-10-25
>26: 2021-12-05
>26: 2021-12-04

>> No.15208565

>>15208370
iirc she's around 3.3m not including her last 3 stream, and this current one has average 18k ccv for 5 hour long stream it would be about 100k watch hour already

>> No.15208571

>>15208305
With her current avg viewers she has to go for another 5 and a half hours roughly to get to 3.5 after this stream. Assuming her avg viewers doesn't drop. If she ends it now she's around 3.4.

>> No.15208622

>>15208563
interesting, can some autist here name the main events for each day?

>> No.15208627

>>15208503
She posts shorts every day that do pretty well, shame about the rest of her numbers

>> No.15208638

>>15208514
After the way Ethyria flopped I really hope they learned their lesson and stop with these nepotism hires.

>> No.15208675

>>15208503
never understimate the power of shorts

>> No.15208700

>>15208638
I think among both companies nepotism hires have fallen flat. I haven't doxxbeated them too hard but HoloX seems like the new standard of just going for the strongest and hungriest candidates.

>> No.15208735
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15208735

do these crazy jp fujos ever go to sleep?

>> No.15208755

>>15208514
>have a brand new branch to energize your company
>change your company name to be more global as you debut your branch
>invest in adverts and songs
>still pin most of it's success on one person and who she likes
Is it any wonder than NijiEN's best picks have nothing to do with Elira? Maybe their scouting department is fine but lazy. Hell, Elira wasn't that good of a pick herself, I watched her her first week and it was like ambien.

>> No.15208780

>>15208735
nijiSEA...

>> No.15208789

>>15208207
All Male wave a success then? They finally pushed NijiEN's market cap to 8k

>> No.15208797

>>15207020
Tamaki blacklisted Hololive because of the Taiwan yab.

>> No.15208812

>>15208735
SAY IT WITH ME
NIJISEA
NIJISEA
NIJISEA
FULL OF THIRSTY FUJO AND YUMEJO
SEA SEA SEA

>> No.15208827

>>15208755
Selen is just Elira but stronger in every possible metric.

>> No.15208831

>>15208789
>NijiEN's market
>EN's market
nope >>15208735

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>>15208563
>>15208622
About that, here is the days since August 1st 2020 with the lowest amount of 10k streams on Holostats record

Notice that it could be because Holostats spilled their spaghetti that day (although I fill the blanks with Playboard data when it happens and it is recoverable)

>5: 2021-11-16
>7: 2021-10-21
>7: 2021-11-19
>7: 2021-10-18
>7: 2021-08-20
>8: 2021-11-09
>8: 2021-10-25
>8: 2021-09-09
>8: 2021-10-29
>9: 2021-09-30

Pic related is 2021-11-16, WTF happened that day?

>> No.15208868

>>15208563
jesus christ 2020-11-15 is such a fucking strong day, pekora got 70k with a minecraft stream, big amongus collab with 9 out of 10 participants getting 10k+ (miosha...), shion new outfit got 100k, reddit review with rushia got 45k, kiara karaoke got 29.5k, gura minecraft got 55.5k, rushia-kiara collab got 35k, korone got 30k with assassin's creed, fubuki had an announcement with 42k, lamy had her birthday with 31k, haachama h-art contest with 26k, and a bunch more 10k and 20k streams

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>>15208700
>holox
You need to kneel.

>> No.15208884

>>15206756
30k more and she will beat the last edengumi member

>> No.15208928

>>15208207
>The funniest guy is the most watched
No surprises here

>> No.15208938
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Reimu is getting dominated by 4 handome men

>> No.15208943

>>15208868
>korone got 30k with assassin's creed
Makes me wonder why Ubisoft doesn't do more with hololive.

>> No.15208968

>>15208884
If she keeps this rate up how long will it take her to reach the most watched

>> No.15208972

>>15208938
>3 handsome men and Ike
FIFY<span class="fortune" style="color:#d001aa">

Your fortune: Feliz Navidad!</span>

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>>15208868
It's all over now.. The fad is dead, the end is nigh, this is the time of the final yabai...

>> No.15209004

>>15208755
I think Elira is actually entertaining, her zatsus are good. But her nepotism hires like Rosemi and Shu are boring and Millie is annoying and unfunny. Enna is the only one I like to be honest. I think Reimu is a Petra nepo, and we already know she only joined to interact with her oshis.

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>>15208978
back to your cell, inmate

>> No.15209043

>>15207495
also 20 mins is not enough time to gather your gachis, I swear this girls is an actual succubus

>> No.15209053
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>>15208207
>from this to that
>full collab
reclining...

>> No.15209064

>>15208797
Anon...
https://youtu.be/NyJttR7jvfM
https://youtu.be/aFbtmzM3jes
https://youtu.be/v5NIVBzSHbA

>> No.15209124

>>15209053
pls understand, seamonkeys need to sleep too

>> No.15209135

>>15209053
SEA hours vs NA hours

>> No.15209184

>>15209053
Alright, even I know that that's being just a bit disengenuous. Shu was hard pandering to JOP, and they streamed earlier.
I'm going from give the the month that I've stated would be a good amount of time for the 'oh new and shiny hype' buff to wear off. I defo see Mysta steeling somewhere above Selen though.

>> No.15209187

>>15209053
Nah the boys have about the exact same number of viewers as that split between the 4 of them right now

>> No.15209283

>>15209187
>same number of viewers
12k then
9.6k now
back to school with you, woman

>> No.15209299

>>15209187
They also have almost no competition right now compared to >>15209053 which was taken during prime time JP.

>> No.15209300

>>15209053
NijiSea is fucking real

>> No.15209341

>>15209283
They're in a 4 man collab. I just witnessed 600 people go from vox to ike

>> No.15209391

>>15209341
thats great, doesnt change anything though as the numbers already add everybody up

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>>15209283
12160

>> No.15209571
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>>15209041
But the voices! The voices....

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>>15209135
technically its still sea hours and EU primetime based on how many jp streaming right now. NA is in the next 4-5hrs.

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>>15209482
Manjisanji... I kneel...
The NijiEN Girls would have never been able to get these numbers by themselves
...

>> No.15210042

Were NijiEN female fans so annoying that you people are celebrating that they're getting mogged? I thought us holofans hated NijiEN males.

>> No.15210083

>>15210042
>Were NijiEN female fans so annoying that you people are celebrating that they're getting mogged?
3 words
pomudachis and dragoons

>> No.15210144

>>15210042
I don't care if the males win because they already did on the JP market so having them mog NijiEN females and making them their accessories is all i wanted.

>> No.15210150

they always spam their girls in holo threads to try to leech, so if nijimales do well maybe they'll try to leech from them instead and we can have some peace

>> No.15210472
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phony cover(+original) numbers update
from left to right, top row first: chima, tsumiki(original), meychan, fuwa minato, rinu-kun, mafumafu, megatera zero, lauren, hoshimachi suisei, pmaru-sama, inui toko<span class="fortune" style="color:#01aad0">

Your fortune: You got an extra thick slice of fruitcake.</span>

>> No.15210571

>>15210472
also if we have an islandchinkbro here who can translate what the guy's saying that would be nice https://twitter.com/13_chima_oshi/status/1474107407827898369

>> No.15210610

現在の1万越え枠数(巣窟ルール) number of 10,000+
ホロ:451
にじ:106

>> No.15210911

>>15208835
pic has 6 hololive streams over 10k not 5 tho?

>> No.15210969

>>15210610
>ホロ:451
>にじ:106
This doesn't look that bad when you realize Hololive has 4 times the number of livers that Nijisanji does.

>> No.15210992

>>15210911
Subaru is an honorary Niji.

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>>15210610
>Hololive
2020/07 287
2020/08 410
2020/09 428
2020/10 415
2020/11 507 <--- highest record
2020/12 347
2021/01 382
2021/02 308
2021/03 291
2021/04 320
2021/05 318
2021/06 387
2021/07 362
2021/08 331
2021/09 293
2021/10 287

>Nijisanji
>2020年9月348配信 <--- highest record
>2021年4月153配信
>2021年5月144配信
>2021年9月81配信

>> No.15211313

lol this thread got pretty peaceful the last hour, thanks to twittertrannies

>> No.15211338

>>15208868
Yeah, that was full PekoMoona arc, her MC streams peaked around that period. Though I'm pretty sure they make more or less the same numbers now if you just take into account how their live viewers get almost cut in half by the "glitch" or whatever the fuck it is.

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>>15211313
what's there to talk about

>> No.15211446

>>15211396

reimu...

>> No.15211543

>>15211396
arcadum tier drama >>15208998

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>>15210969

>> No.15211627
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numberbros its ogre... where did it all go wrong?

>> No.15211685

>>15211606
>obvious joke
are you perhaps....autistic ?

>> No.15211726

>>15208355
Yeah, that's why Elira, Selen, Finana, Pomu, Enna and others get over 1k and 2k right?

>> No.15211744

>>15211627
hey im glad our schizos moved out to those

>> No.15211789

>>15208638
Ethyria didn't flop retard. Enna gets over 1k all the time now. Only Reimu you could make some argument and even her have her oil baron whitefox.

>> No.15211836

>>15210969
kek

>> No.15211865

>>15211543
I don't think it's even arcadium tier, this is literally he said she said stuff and a bunch of people trying to push their rrats on 4chan because it gets better traction than on twitter

>> No.15211967

>>15208755
the fact you guys actually believe that elira has control in this branch is hilarious.

>> No.15211987

>>15211865
>he said she said stuff
same as arcadum, but he felt guilty for his wife and admitted it all

>> No.15212020

>>15211967
its ok reimu, you can always be an accessory for the new boys

>> No.15212125

>>15211726
NijiEN really flopped hard when it was full of women. Does this mean we have to pivot to males now?

>> No.15212180

>>15208755
Elira's hires were bad. Even the male chuuba she brought up is the weakest link of his wave.

>> No.15212304

>>15211627
Huh no wonder this thread was so slow all the usual schizos are shitting other threads.

>> No.15212440

>>15211338
How do >we replicate pekomoon arc...

>Umisea is shit
>Jp en server merge just end up like a fart in the wind (no continuation /peak of the arc)

Somehow Reine fanfic arc far more interesting but i don't see the big number from this arc..

>> No.15212492

No shark so no numbers. I guess nobody was surprised by this lazy shark
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1474480954467045380

>> No.15212515

>>15212180
Which one?

>> No.15212607

Chumbudbros...
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1474480954467045380?t=NGCBFM3l7PSzdZDC-3pu4Q&s=19

>> No.15212621

>>15207683
She's not invincible is what the takeaway should be.

>> No.15212856

>>15212492
>>15212607
>please spend time with your family
tldr: fuck off

>> No.15213007

How much would a PekoMiko christmas live get? 150k? 200K? Asking for a friend peko.

>> No.15213232

>>15213007
70k
but it won't happen.

>> No.15213233

>>15207501
>20 minutes interval
EN & ID could have contributed a small portion of their time. Bitches are not mindful of JP initiatives, they always need to be spoonfed

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>>15211543
>>15211627
why do these retards think this would be a problem?
this is NijiSEA, hes popular with middle school jungle asians, we joke about yumejoshi but their literal dream is to be sold off to a white man as a child

>> No.15213367

>>15211726
Is that supposed to be impressive or something?

>> No.15213412

https://twitter.com/LichVtuber/status/1474314752532922377?
In other news froot got the coof

>> No.15213706

>>15213007
Anon, it's over. Stop with the coping

>> No.15213769

>>15213706
how much would a PekoJun Christmas Collab get? 150k? 200k? theyre the two biggest numberfags in japan

>> No.15213975

>>15213412
UK is all omicron at the moment which is basically just a cold, she'll be fine

>> No.15214037

>>15213706
Why? It would be great numbers and would heal many hearts.

>> No.15214209

>>15214037
Is not healthy. Other than that it would get like 80k. There's not that many people who cares about it, I believe

>> No.15214370

>>15214209
>There's not that many people who cares about it, I believe
It'd cure /jp/ of schizophrenia.

>> No.15214463

Will hololive get all top 20 with the singing relay?

>> No.15214499

>>15213975
>UK is all omicron
UK is a transformer?

>> No.15215104

>>15214463
Doubt it
Mio is a retard who makes the window 20 mins, instead of just extending the schedule
It's not enough time to buffer viewers

>> No.15215229

>>15215104
Eh as long as there's enough people along for the ride it'll be fine, they won't reach their full potential but there'll be enough interest to get everyone to 10k after 20 minutes

>> No.15215231

>>15215104
I wonder how many will struggle with Susan think the massive viewer influx is bots.. The big names should get a high waiting and a decent number for a 20 min stream, if Susan throttles them..

>> No.15215357

>>15214463

20min is too short, no one will get really high numbers except for the big names

>> No.15215374

>>15213769
That just had that collab last night. It got 0 views.<span class="fortune" style="color:#d001aa">

Your fortune: Feliz Navidad!</span>

>> No.15215383

>>15214463
>get all top 20
nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJ69L_J2t8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYasQqgryIU

>> No.15215426

>>15215383

also

https://youtu.be/SfBHk_Ox8Uc

>> No.15215445

>>15215383
This fucker never gonna play Apex again?

>> No.15215501

>>15207142
The reason why Bae has a lower CCV is because she splits up her stream times between morning/noon and evening JST. It's just difficult for burgerbros to be able to watch all her streams live since the evening JST streams are in between 3-6am NA time depending on the time zone. However, those evening JST streams have been making bank in terms of SCs because of the Koreans. Even the JPs have been slowly warming up to Bae due to all the collabs she has done with the JP members. It's definitely a hard thing to pull off since we all saw how Anya flopped but Bae has successfully diversified her fanbase.

Even in terms of stream content Bae has carved out a solid niche for herself as well. Baewatch to flex her VA skill. Rat review which is honestly a more refreshing evolution of meme review. Soul singing with Inuyasha and Christmas karaoke streams. Rat is one who a few of us thought had the highest potential in Council, and she is slowly putting the pieces together.

I think Fauna is doing fine too. She is very good at carrying her solo gaming streams. Probably one of the best solo gaming streamers in EN right now. Plus Fauna has been getting better at communicating in collabs. Her streaming style and content are definitely unique so she has a solid following.

Big question mark is Sana. She seems to want to do a bunch of things but not really finding success at them at least in the eyes of /#/. I really think she should just go down the autistic gamer route that has been vacated by Aqua. Sana has dropped an absurd amount of hours in a bunch of games so she definitely has the chops to take on this role.

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>>15215501

>> No.15215609

>>15205712
Stillbirth

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gotta grind to be successful in the EN market.

>> No.15215691

>>15215636
Don't these guys just react to videos or play the same FPS/Minecraft for hours and hours?

>> No.15215789

>>15215501
>we all saw how Anya flopped
Point of contention, Anya flopped due to poor game choice, not due to pandering to the JPs. Or at least that's not the main factor.
>Sana
Sana isn't really a gamer other than for pokemon, and pokemon has a definite time limit for hololive. Her biggest issue is that she's embarrassed of her strongest points. She's is an artist Holo who refuses to do art streams, and she's an Australian Holo who's embarrassed of her accent.

>> No.15215825

>>15215691
More or less.
XQC probably the most interesting one since he went from a pro OW player to a normal streamer, known for being toxic as fuck.

>> No.15215838

>>15215636
That's because you're basically dead to twitch if you are not streaming, so if you wanna be discovered you have to stream

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>>15211067
>2020年9月348配信 <--- highest record

>> No.15215961

>>15215825
the interesting thing is most of them came from fps competitive scene.
OW: xqc
CSGO: gaules, ibai, summit1g, shroud

>> No.15215962

>>15211726
>get over 1k and 2k right
kek, the boys are getting double that. Fucking Kiara reading SC gets that.

Stop defending NijiEN girls, you’re making it look even worse

>> No.15216034

did we talk about laplus have 8100 confirmed members?

>> No.15216157

>>15215789
Anya flopped due to being in the ID branch, having a bad design that she hated, having a thick ESL accent, pandering to JP who have dozens and dozens of choices at the time she streams, and most of all being a boring streamer with absolutely no streaming or content creation background and no particular talent or specialization at anything.

And I actually like Anya.

>> No.15216275

>>15216034
no, because councilbros won't be able to take it
it's Christmas, give them some slack

>> No.15216302

>>15215789
Sana does fairly well in other games seeing from her Celeste/Splatoon streams. But yeah her biggest issue is that she keeps trying for niche content that doesn't really play into her strongest points in drawing. Not to mention her long hours turns off a lot of people on catching the VODs.

>> No.15216459

>>15216302
sana simply wants to be EN mr koro, too bad she isn't as cute

>> No.15216628

>>15215962
Say what you want about males but I am enjoying this complete destruction of NijiEN females since. They are instantly second class citizens and the crowned queen of NijiEN Selen is lucky to be in the top four. I was sick of their shit telling me 4k is a world beating number and that 2.8k median was about to take over the scene.

>> No.15216642

Wow, I just noticed Chloe has karaoke scheduled at 23:30 while her part in relay is 19:20 and the relay ends at 0:00. It might be a mistake on her part but if she actually decided to do it like this to catch the funnel then wow, she really is a calculating numberfag through and through.
>>15216275
Do we have any numbers on how many members do Council girls have?

>> No.15217084

>>15216642
she has 2 schedules singing streams. at least on holodex

>> No.15217152

Fish less than 1k on a seasonal zatsudan…

>> No.15217252

>>15217084
Yeah, that's what I wrote... Karaoke relay at 19:20 + her own singing stream at 23:30

>> No.15217253

KRONII EN GOLD
>KRONII EN GOLD
KRONII EN GOLD
>KRONII EN GOLD

>> No.15217318

>>15217252
ah.. i misread it as you thinking she had it scheduled only at 23.30. just ignore what I wrote.

>> No.15217803

Congrats Ame, you've sucessfully killed your numbers with weeks with no schedules and constant breaks.
6k for karaoke is painful.

>> No.15217812

>>15212125
>>15215962
Anon, Selen gets over 2k. Same to Elira most of the times. Only reimu gets less than 1k these days but even her gets over it sometimes.

Just because Vox and Mysta so far are doing really well doesn't mean the rest are doing badly.

>> No.15217919

>>15217253
>EN GOLD
The special Olympics of this thread

>> No.15218076

>>15217919
I kinda regret introducing the idea for some (You)s since I think it's catching on.

>> No.15218100

>>15217803
It's literally christmas
Her audience is celebrating

>> No.15218147

>>15218076
nah is mostly ignored.

>> No.15218235

>>15216642
She published her schedule 12 hours earlier than Mio's relay announcement

>> No.15218240

AMELLUJAH

>> No.15218276

>>15207751
Shubros...

>> No.15218728

>>15215501
Bae is an absolute joy to watch and has become my favorite in Council for a lot of the reasons you mentioned.

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These are kinda... Well, I hope Kronii does better than this

>> No.15218833

>>15218100
Also in the cursed timeslot

>> No.15218858

>>15218728
still not getting them numbers tho

>> No.15218925

>>15218809
she has 8k, the timeslot and day is just not good could easily get her 10k+ on evening but she is fixing her sleep scheduled

>> No.15219033

>>15218809
Tbh Ame and Ina share sizeable chunk of audience. It's hard for her to get good numbers when Ina or Gura are streaming.
She's the 'second choice', just like Miko.

>> No.15219123

>>15219033
she has more viewers than Ina right now while Ina's doing the content she's most known for

>> No.15219137

a lot of streams today from Hololive's side that will funnel into each other before the big singing relay

>> No.15219198

>>15218858
She is doing just fine. She can hit 3-4k in JP prime time going up against all the heavy hitters and usually ranges between 6-10k depending on what she is doing while streaming in burger time.

>> No.15219219

>>15219123

Ina is almost done tho. She peaked at 9k earlier

>> No.15219672

>https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/rnexpk/veibae_notices_someone_behind_chance_lulw/
vshojo has been inclining since that mizkif episode

>> No.15219884

>>15218809
Kronii always does better than Ame, but it's still Christmas Eve, don't expect anything amazing.

>> No.15219951

>>15219672
Have they? You got any numbers to back that up?

>> No.15220473

Hey numberfags
>MERRY CHRISTMAS
From bongland

>> No.15220526

>>15215445
he's not even going to play resident evil even though he said he will finish the series

>> No.15220592

>>15219884
>Kronii always does better than Ame,
I find that funny given that Ame has more than twice the amount of subs.

>> No.15220694

>>15220473
The voices told me to say Merry Christmas to you, bongland anon.

>> No.15220884

>>15218728
Her voice and forced excitment are hard filter

>> No.15221115

Ame 10k
Wave 3 1.4k

>> No.15221322

>>15219884
She is also streaming at the golden PST time, where people are just chilling and since Gura isn't streaming today anymore, expect 30k+ viewers and $10k+ superchats.

Meanwhile Ame streams at the worst possible time of the day for EN times, where people are either busy with work/school or traveling home for the holidays or doing last minute shopping at these hours.

And lets face it, Kronii is very mean selfish person who has to be the center of attention or she throws a hissy fit and there are A LOT more of these mean selfish assholes than there are legit nice people so they like to watch other mean people be mean which explains her high numbers in comparison to the rest of Council + IRYS. Hell even the shitty Civil War she tried to start, Fauna shut that down HARD when she got tired of Kronii pushing that shit down their throats. Very glad none of Myth + Sana took the bait.

>> No.15221326

Man, no Gura stream to funnel into a bunch of other things kinda kills any expectations I had for En numbers today, and the loss of a Christmas unarchived karaoke kinda has me bummed out a bit. Now it's just gonna be a generic winter karaoke since it's gonna be kinda odd to song a Christmas karaoke stream after Christmas right?
Also /ggg/ an absolute dumpster fire rn, which probs explains partly why the thread was less of a mess than usual.

>> No.15221351

>>15221115
Wave 3 incline coming

>> No.15221426

>>15221322
ogey

>> No.15221762

>>15221322
>Hell even the shitty Civil War she tried to start, Fauna shut that down HARD when she got tired of Kronii pushing that shit down their throats.
Are you kidding? That shit was numbers and clip gold, it could have been EN's neighbor war, too bad Fauna hates the server for some reason.

>> No.15221972

The thread has been calm while the others got even shittier.
My poor depressed oshi is getting shat on different threads.

Fuck pekoschizos.

>> No.15222078

Alright /#/, tell me this:

How much of an impact, if any, did Mori's latest comic video have on the indies they brought in to voice other characters?

>> No.15222143

>>15222078
too soon to judge that anon, but so far the part 2 it seems to have a better growth than the first one

>> No.15222272

>>15221762
Maybe if it evolved naturally at the beginning and throughout, it could have been a fun Council Arc, but it was FORCED and preplanned by Kronii for memes behind the scenes. Now she is trying to FORCE it again by purposely creating conflict during the other's Minecraft streams. When someone else is streaming and she logs on, it literally becomes "what conflict will Kronii start today"

>> No.15222289

>>15221972
Your oshi is fucking Takeshi right now, how does that makes you feel?

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Today's superchats... are insane as expected, give me a minute I'll also post everyone who made over $2k because holy shit there's so many of them

>> No.15222551

>>15221972
It's literally a nothingburger. Schizos and shitposters will forget about this in a week or two when they get bored or when they find something new to schizo and shitpost about.

>> No.15222555

>>15222272
Who gives a shit about 'natural'? Dreamsmp has regularly better numbers that makes all Holo blush in envy and it's entirely a bit server. People only care if the stuff is entertaining, it actually being 'true' is irrelevant as long as people play their character well. Good on Kronii btw, conflict is great for numbers, no wonder she is just a bit below Mumei this month.

>> No.15222583

>>15219884
>>15220592
iirc Ame has higher number than Kronii once in their collab, but I can't remember when. Maybe I confused her with Irys.

>> No.15222596

>>15222399
Mel got $5k and 8k viewers during her NND stream today

>> No.15222604

>>15211987
>and admitted it all
kek, big mistake

ALWAYS DENY EVERYTHING!

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>>15222399
Lonely otaku on Christmas Eve, I kneel...
Merry Christmas to all you numberfags out there and may all your oshis be blessed with many akasupas

>> No.15222963

>>15222551
This is a cope. None of pekora's rrats have ever died and this is a big one. The most any reasonable person can give you is you'll only see this one hard and heavy for a month and you'll see it off and on until she completely disappears from the public eye.

>> No.15222983

>>15222918
Merry Christmas for you to anon.

>> No.15223025

>>15222918
Kson less than 3k? What happened?

>> No.15223173

>>15222963
Qrd on this rat?

>> No.15223234

>>15223173
Anon, it's christmas and pekora didnt streamed today, you can put 2 and 2 together right?

>> No.15223236

Nijifags spoonfed me on this
https://twitter.com/debidebiru_sama/status/1474319714835111941?t=QGvo9B5qoQh4yrCti-msdQ&s=19
>is this for real? Or just keyfabe thingy?

>> No.15223284

>>15223173
Christmas is the sex holiday in nipland. Pekora didn't stream today.

>> No.15223345

>>15222963
How is it a cope when the only rrat that gets peddled constantly is the Jun one and that's only on /jp/ the majority of the time and has pretty much become a meme over there? The most people on /vt/ do is call her a numberfag or shit on her because they think she is a horrible person. This will stick for a while, but it will die down like the rest.
>until she completely disappears from the public eye.
This is the real cope, and sounds like a schizo cope to me. I'm not gonna derail the thread anymore than this. Have fun with the voices in your head.

>> No.15223453

>>15223284
so just average schizophrenia?

>> No.15223465

>>15223236
It's a joke from one of the big Haneru collabs they both did months ago, also Debi's roommate is a girl anyways

>> No.15223492

>>15223345
Ok name an rrat of hers that's disappeared and that you'll never see antis come into a pro pekora space and post. I've seen more than peko jun here.

>> No.15223510

>>15223234
>>15223284
Damn, it is loud enough to be an issue, or its just shitposting and the like?

>> No.15223530

>>15223453
There's a screenshot of her talking about that aspect of the holiday in the peko miko Christmas stream.

>> No.15223552

>>15223234
>>15223284
I thought the rrat was more tied into no stream PLUS no PekoMiko and the way that was handled.

>> No.15223558

>>15223510
in nipland it is, but mostly because in 5ch nousagis are the equivalent of chumbuds so if there's a chance to dunk on both they will take it

>> No.15223845

Peko really atttacts a shitton of seethe huh.
The desperation in grabbing any straws trying to bring her down is hilarious, even more so when it's attempted in a numbers thread, something she dominates at.
Better start samefagging, schizo.<span class="fortune" style="color:#d0aa01">

Your fortune: Krampus is coming to your house!</span>

>> No.15223892

>/#/: Nousagi Cope edition
kek

>> No.15223953

>>15223892
Where's your 30k median, Nijifag?

>> No.15223954

>>15221972
>>15222551
>Schizos and shitposters will forget about this in a week or two
That’s the hell of a long time for a rrat to live.

>> No.15224005

>>15223953
Don't watch niji, seeing nutsagis coping and throwing out explanations is just funny

>> No.15224148

this is the numbers thread not the schizo rrat thread, take your drama shit somewhere else<span class="fortune" style="color:#d001aa">

Your fortune: Feliz Navidad!</span>

>> No.15224203

>>15223892
the nijitranny containment is not here

>> No.15224269

This now deleted thread about Vox Akuma tho, damn!
>>15208841

Hopefully Anykara will do the right thing and come down HARD on the people making this up because if they cave even a little it’s over

>> No.15224286

>>15224005
Because Niji is shit and you know it, right?

>> No.15224303

>>15224269
Wait; it’s not deleted? The relevant dox posts are, archive reps are necessary for the full picture

>> No.15224306

>>15224269
don't care, no number related

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Here’s something interesting about consistency: Patra (arguably the most successful ASMR vtuber that is not doing it with a roommate) usual ASMR CCV is around 17k.
This special one? 10k.

One likely explanation is that she captivated a recurring audience that schedules their Monday nights around watching her weekly ASMR.
One doesn’t need to be a daily streamer for a huge captive audience, weekly is fine too.

>> No.15224482

wait...
Orca have two karaokes streams?
she's waiting for the funneling, isn't she?

>> No.15224531

>>15224482
succubus mode on

>> No.15224912

>>15224482
>>15224531
Sasuga /our/ girl

>> No.15225009

>>15224286
This insistence on deflecting to some nijinigger boogeyman is funny, no matter how shit niji is it doesn't take away from how hilariously hard nousagis are coping right now

>> No.15225256

>>15222399
December superchats so far
>Chloe - $223,855
>Iroha - $165,105
>Laplus - $128,432
>Rushia - $108,067
>Koyori - $107,722
>Nene - $103,114
>Pekora - $97,190
>Fubuki - $70,987
>Lamy - $67,331
>Hayato - $66,744
>Ayame - $64,009
>Flare - $64,083
>Lui - $61,365
>Mori - $60,261
>Kanata - $59,138
>Shion - $57,121
>kson - $43,035
>Fuwa - $41,543
>Kiara - $34,474
>Watame - $32,771
>Mishiro - $32,435

>> No.15225302

>>15223953
you better get ready for your 15k media nutsagi, she was already reclining in that direction and just orchestrated this excuse to blame for her numbers being eaten by gen X

>> No.15225363

>>15225009
I don't see much nousagi cope, but I see plenty of niji cope because they don't get numbers, which is far more hilarious.

>> No.15225465

>>15225009
Take your meds, get well soon and merry xmas.

>> No.15225610

>>15225465
Your coping and deflecting is funny nousagi. Merry Christmas for you too.

>> No.15225719

Well, Yagoo's magic is working full time now huh? When NijiEN is gaining traction, Vox gets ousted as a sexual predator.
This company, I can't even

>> No.15225874

>>15225256
holoX total: $686,479
jeesas...

>> No.15226061

No niji MK Tournament today?

>> No.15226189

>>15226061

tomorrow

https://youtu.be/UQrYanCpQRA

>> No.15226221

>>15225719
Board is awfully quiet when a yab in Nijisanji happens. Is it safe to assume 4chan doesn't care about vtubers at all?

>> No.15226241

>>15226189
So a sure gold for niji tomorrow.

>> No.15226290

move here >>15226106 when you fags done

>> No.15226345

>>15225719
qrd?

>> No.15226390

>>15208363
Marine a few months ago

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