>big unplanned Hololive collab starring Gura conveniently timed to overlap with a Nijisanji debut Why do they do it every time?

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Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:28:51 2021 No.14946249 [Reply] [Original]

>big unplanned Hololive collab starring Gura conveniently timed to overlap with a Nijisanji debut
Why do they do it every time?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:29:28 2021 No.14946296 Holy timeloop. This discussion has been had 2-3 times already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:30:29 2021 No.14946360 File: 30 KB, 485x679, 61thJlkYWFL._AC_SY679_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14946249

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:30:41 2021 No.14946373 >>14946296 Yeah because Hololive has done this for 2-3 debuts. Maybe if they stopped fucking doing it people would stop talking about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:32:34 2021 No.14946488 >>14946249 You know how McDonalds, Coca-Cola, etc., still invest a shitton of money into advertisements and marketing even though they're already well known around the world? Same thing.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:32:46 2021 No.14946493
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Reaper, Reaper,
That's what people call me. Why?
'Cause they all die.
When I sing, I end their lives.
You act as though payback makes you a noble man. Is that a fact?
Well, you're a goddamn philistine!

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:33:10 2021 No.14946520

>>14946249
There's a lot of shit they play dumb about and this is one of those things. Actually saying "yes we set out to curbstomp the new Niji debuts" would look fucking horrible so they won't ever even hint at it, you'd be quite stupid to think they'd say it.

Even so, it may not be the girls themselves so much as management doing this and these are the ones who were simply willing to go along with it because they had no horse in the race personally. You never know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:33:12 2021 No.14946525 >>14946373 Maybe nijisanji should stop having their debuts during hololive's streams

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:35:01 2021 No.14946630 >>14946249 Do you retards not even check the catalog before making these posts? Stop with these duplicate threads. >>14919727

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:36:07 2021 No.14946690 >>14946249 this has been a repeating late night pattern for a few weeks. If it where an actual hololive plot, they'd drop a bomb by throwing some jps into this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:37:11 2021 No.14946775 Can you name one valid reason why this would be a bad thing if they really were doing it on purpose?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:38:50 2021 No.14946869 Why are nijiniggers so whiny? There's way too many threads like this here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:39:57 2021 No.14946948 >>14946249 nijiniggers on suicide watch

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 04:57:04 2021 No.14948049 >>14946249 Sounds like a (you) problem to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:01:27 2021 No.14948307 >>14946249 Hololive clearly feels threatened, they’ll do anything to retain viewers. Other than scout good talent for EN that is, the JP branch could teach them a thing or two

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:10:54 2021 No.14948790 >>14946775 You have to admit it's little petty. This and the collab ban they seem to have. Like come on Hololive isn't going lose their thousands of views to Nijisanji EN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:11:40 2021 No.14948821 >>14946525 Gura moved her stream UP to overlap with the debuts, after the debut schedules were announced.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:12:12 2021 No.14948858 >>14946249 >playing minecraft is "a big collab"

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:14:32 2021 No.14948991 >>14948821 blame nijisanji for not scheduling around the 3mil vtuber then. not gura's fault

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:14:46 2021 No.14949010 starving out the rodents biting at their heels, based

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:15:23 2021 No.14949050

>>14948790
It's a little petty but they're businesses in the same field competiting not only for the viewers but also their time and money. At the very least, Nijisanji seems to be encouraging Hololive to up their game, since assuming the male streams weren't botted they had only a few short of Gura's meme review.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:15:34 2021 No.14949067 It's funny how the people who waste their time insulting and calling names to Holos and their fanbases are the same ones who complain about the lack of collaborations outside the company.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:16:50 2021 No.14949125 >>14946249 It's almost like Hololive and Nijisanji are competitors or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:18:36 2021 No.14949231 >>14948858 have patience, he has yet to imagine what hololive going full black company power timezone shitting on someone else would even look like. This isn't even flexing the jps.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:20:11 2021 No.14949320 >>14946775 because it means their management don't care about expanding vtubing and fostering it at large, only about keeping their garden shut

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:21:55 2021 No.14949418 File: 25 KB, 773x103, nijien3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] we already knew the nijisanji debuts wouldnt do anything considering the flop that was wave3 stop acting surprised

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:30:02 2021 No.14949841 >>14948991 It is Gura's fault, you eunuch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:30:59 2021 No.14949886 >>14949841 I'm here to congratulate you for being the first person I've seen call someone the E word on here

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:31:20 2021 No.14949902 >>14949841 No it isn't. Nijisanji should've delayed their debuts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:32:50 2021 No.14949986 >>14949067 How is it funny? The lack of collaborations are the reason for the insults. It's not difficult to understand. If Hololive collabed outside their company, people wouldn't insult them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:33:13 2021 No.14950008 >>14949841 oh nyooo all of nijisanji viewews went to watch guwa

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:34:24 2021 No.14950072 >>14949418 Wave 4 easily hit double this number. Looks like wave 3 was just uniquely bad and Hololive was right to feel threatened by this new wave, or "The Gura Killers" as I have taken to calling them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:34:58 2021 No.14950101 File: 117 KB, 677x806, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It had zero effect on numbers. Her audience isn't the same one as those who are interested in males. Debut numbers kept steadily increasing even when she started overlapping.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:35:01 2021 No.14950104

>>14949841
It's not really, she's probably forced by Cover management or something stupid since she's easily their most popular talent who always gets people's eye. But even so tonight proved that it doesn't really matter since the audiences couldn't be any different at this point, I doubt people looking for shark cunny would be interested in gay sounding dudes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:35:09 2021 No.14950107 >>14950072 Another wave of gura killers? Eh just throw them into the pile over there with the rest of them

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:36:39 2021 No.14950173 >>14949125 Funny that, huh? GUYS GUYS GUYS! Coca-cola just did something to fuck over Pepsi! How could this be?!

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:37:39 2021 No.14950216

>>14948790
It's not petty, it's business. Sure, Niji is far behind Hololive in the EN market, but that could change over time. So Hololive is doing the smart thing and competing, rather than just letting Niji gain popularity unchecked. Also, it works. I have not watched a single Niji EN debut ever, because I'm always watching a hololive stream that I find to be a more appealing option. This minecraft stream is pretty chill, talking about ice lolis and shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:38:06 2021 No.14950237 >>14950107 Man, that pile's getting pretty big. Should we call housecleaning or something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:39:17 2021 No.14950289 they don't even have same fanbases you gossipping dramafaggot njijiniggers with inferiority complex should be expunged from this board

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:39:58 2021 No.14950314 >>14950101 Except there are people who chose what stream to watch before either one started. I knew I was watching Gura, so I didn't bother to tune into the Niji debut. I'm sure plenty of other people did the same.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:40:09 2021 No.14950321 >>14946249 Hold up. If Hololive really does see Nijisanji EN as the enemy. Does that mean tribalfagging is no longer a meme? And is Kiara / Pomu like the Romeo and Juliette of vtubing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:40:09 2021 No.14950320 >>14950072 Ethyria improved their numbers by 50% in one month while all of HoloEN except Mori is declining. HoloEN management is starting to fear NijiEN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:42:57 2021 No.14950471 >>14950320 Gen3 still doesnt have a single streamer with 1k avg viewers, did they have 500k before?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:43:35 2021 No.14950507 >>14950321 It's only EN management. They see numbers going down every month and fear competition. JP collabs with other corps all the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:43:58 2021 No.14950522 >>14950101 I heard that a lot of Gura's female viewers dropped her for Luxiem because the only reason they were watching her is because she acts like a boy so now that they have some actual boys they don't need her anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:44:12 2021 No.14950530 >>14948790 >Like come on Hololive isn't going lose their thousands of views to Nijisanji EN Nijisanji probably thought the same 2 years ago when they kept doing collab with Hololive. Thanks god Cover isn’t that dumb.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:45:44 2021 No.14950599 >>14950471 Millie had multiple 3k ccv streams already and is doing great in SC. Nina does great in SC since day one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:46:45 2021 No.14950656 >>14950599 Oh you are retarded and talking about irrelevant things while Gura cashes 350k$ a month from members alone, carry on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:47:26 2021 No.14950696 File: 14 KB, 934x324, a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14950471 Ogey. And this is counting hours of sc reading to 400 people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:49:14 2021 No.14950785 >>14950656 Holy fuck you are completely retarded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:50:13 2021 No.14950826 >14950785 >no u Why even bother replying at this point? You dont even deserve a (You) with that sad post

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:51:05 2021 No.14950873 >>14946520 >>>14946360 >>14949986 >if they did things with our oshis we'd stop giving them reasons to not do things with our oshis ngmi

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:52:09 2021 No.14950943 >>14950656 Her recent member polls have about 10k votes. That's 50k $ a month before youtube and Cover cut. She's lucky to get half of that. And you get 3-5k $ per million views. Gura makes much less money than you think.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:54:31 2021 No.14951049 >>14950826 Check your numbers and how youtube works before making retarded posts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:54:55 2021 No.14951064 >>14950696 That includes her full-EN collab birthday stream, which had an average 5k viewership, which really bumps up the viewer average.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:55:36 2021 No.14951094 >>14946249 CRUSH WITHOUT MERCY

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 05:57:38 2021 No.14951191 >>14951064 So average is now not average because you don't agree with it? She had plenty of 2k streams lately.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 06:00:15 2021 No.14951315 >>14950104 And yet, all of my grails go to lolis and gay men. You have to understand that both of them have flat chests, making them relevant to my interests.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 06:00:50 2021 No.14951351 >>14948790 >its petty for corpo A to compete with corpo B ok

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 06:01:15 2021 No.14951366 cope Hololive owns the industry

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 06:03:01 2021 No.14951445 [DELETED]

>>14950507
I wonder if the massive success that HoloEN had within a short amount of time ended up being a curse for Cover in a way. It just seems like EN management had no clue what they were doing or what to do to keep the momentum going, or that they even understood what went right.
Granted it probably doesn't matter since Gura is any company's crown jewel, she'd probably reach 4 million by next year alone. But I guess those heights in hindsight probably set some wrong standards to sell people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 06:05:04 2021 No.14951545 Are nijiniggers incapable of watching two streams at once?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 06:07:14 2021 No.14951655 >>14946249 I'm sorry, Niji can't compete with Snowman BDSM.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 06:10:33 2021 No.14951829 >>14950522 Did you hear that from the voices in your head or are you gonna even try to cite your nonsense?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 06:11:31 2021 No.14951896 >>14951545 NijiEN debuts are two streams: one main program commentary stream, and then all of the individual debut streams.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 06:31:52 2021 No.14952930 [DELETED]

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>>14950943
>poll numbers are final
are you retarded? her members never received the notifications from susan since forever. not to mention that jp membership costs 400 yen a month (3.5 vs 5)
if anything she's a golden goose because of the sheer amount of members, merch, sponsors and by being the one exceedingly profitting from yt premium.

her SC numbers are not "bad" either considering the total hours streamed and the fact that she loves to spam unmonetized streams

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 06:34:44 2021 No.14953056 >>14952930 You're wasting time. Gura have sponsorships and shit ton of vod view. She don't need some chum charge like the nijiEN midget who can't even get a sponsor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 06:59:27 2021 No.14954126 >>14946249 They should make Peko do the same too, the rabbit can pull big number

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:04:39 2021 No.14954296 >>14951829 I'm being sarcastic you dunce

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:06:18 2021 No.14954351 >>14946249 Gura’s number one for reasons, buddy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:13:15 2021 No.14954578 File: 37 KB, 454x415, 1613569694357.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14946488 >>14946249 >salty Nijibeggars

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:14:34 2021 No.14954623 Why does hololive have to change their schedule for a different company? Huh? I swear nijiEN newfags aren't actually real and this is just bait.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:17:16 2021 No.14954701 >why is the competition competing

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:18:09 2021 No.14954728 Why would the NBA postpone a finals game because a high school girls team was going to win state championships Nijiniggers are fucking dishonest, never argue in good faith and gaslight Truly the china aligned corporation

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:18:16 2021 No.14954731 [DELETED]

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>>14950072
>or "The Gura Killers" as I have taken to calling them
Every single fucking month Chinks pumps new iPhone and other "killers" in the smartphone market, and yet everyone is alive.
"Killer" is just an empty but loud title, nothing more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:20:49 2021 No.14954819 Are you trying to make nijisanji fans seem even more entitled and selfish OP?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:22:57 2021 No.14954903 >>14954623 >I swear nijiEN newfags aren't actually real and this is just bait. Nijibeggars are known to have heavy delusions. Both new and old.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:28:10 2021 No.14955116 [DELETED]

>>14952930
The "Gura can't get superchats" narrative was always dumb. If you use a ratio of total superchats to total streams Gura is actually one of the highest earners in all of Hololive and is even above Mori who has the biggest raw superchat number in EN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:28:52 2021 No.14955142 File: 859 KB, 3840x2160, 1637230221527.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14950072 you just don't learn do you?

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:31:38 2021 No.14955249

>>14950507
>JP collabs with other corps all the time
Not really anymore they don't. They don't even really collab with Niji anymore and the only ones still doing Niji collabs are the ones who were grandfathered in since it was part of their regular content anyway like Okayu and Suisei.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:31:51 2021 No.14955259 ... maybe i should just filter nijisanji

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:33:19 2021 No.14955317 >>14955259 It will make the board experience so much better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:33:30 2021 No.14955323 >>14955249 clip watcher chan...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:34:49 2021 No.14955364 >>14955323 Nice rebuttal fag. Show me the "tons" of Niji collabs then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:36:40 2021 No.14955434 >>14955364 How about the ladies overwatch club with towa, a bunch of nijis, leona, lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:38:11 2021 No.14955492 >>14955434 get over it anon they are no longer friends

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:39:17 2021 No.14955547 >>14955492 That was in November lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 07:41:20 2021 No.14955646 >>14946249 cause its funny

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 08:47:49 2021 No.14957575 >>14946493 Nigger, Nigger, That's what people call me. Why? 'Cause I'm black.

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