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Nijibros, what went wrong?

>> No.14892977

>>14892935
Shu....
Luca....

>> No.14893039

Susan knocked their subs off by several thousands, but I suppose you made this thread out of context for the inevitable onslaught of "nobody wants men"s anyway.

>> No.14893133
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homotubers are so stupid for not going the debi route

>> No.14893304

>>14892935
Same thing that went wrong with HoloJP6, i.e subs got susan'd despite uploading shorts.
If you aren't Sony you WILL get purged.

>> No.14893337

Mysta with the highest count so far. Guess being ab annoying cringe tryhard has it's benefits.

>> No.14893398

>>14892935
Vox-sama...

>> No.14893404

Why does Susan always favor hololive?
Also the twitter engagement for them is really high, I expect 40k for the debuts.

>> No.14893482

>>14892935
>bishounen
Generic gatcha game design, I want to see more chad looking vtuber like bonbon and belmond

>> No.14893497
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>>14893404
>Why does Susan always favor hololive?
anon...

>> No.14893506

>>14892935
>Mysta Rias
Do they really?
I expect them to have lower subs but unusually high membership/superchat revenue. There are millions of deranged fujos throughout the west who are all for this.

>> No.14893593

>>14892935
They didnt upload something before debut?

>> No.14893646

>>14893593
They've all uploaded at least one video, some have several videos uploaded. Susan has no mercy.

>> No.14893730

>>14893593
It doesn't actually work, it's just nijiniggers insisting that it does to try and paint nijisanji management as more competent and/or to push the sub bots narrative because they think susan's sub culls are too small for us to notice.

>> No.14893837

If you check their twitter engagement it's at HoloX levels. 100k isn't out of the question.

>> No.14893856

I just thought I should mention.

The whole "bros went wrong" thing is a meme that started on /a/ in the DBS threads. Dragon Ball Z unfortunately became popular with latin american people, and they adopted the most obnoxious style of posting. They basically treat the characters as WWE wrestlers and are constantly trying to trigger other fanbases and stir up conflict for no reason. That's the thinking behind these types of posts.

Vegetbros what went wrong?
Why is goku so weak?

That sort of thing

>> No.14893912

>>14893856
here it is again: >>14890809
a lot of latin american people on this board apparently

>> No.14893929

>>14893404
>>14893837
Don't set crazy expectations for debuts so that Holofags inevitably laugh when they don't meet them.

>> No.14893963

>>14892935
oh nonononono
It can't possible be that Nijisanji is using bots!

>> No.14893974

>>14892935
That's like 10k more than they deserve
Imagine watching men

>> No.14893984

>>14893929
Don't be a pessimist. This is easily gonna double the other debuts.

>> No.14894088

>>14893984
I really, really wouldn't bet on it. Even without their subs being nuked their numbers would lag a bit behind the girls. That's okay because there isn't an audience for them as it currently stands. They'll develop one over time.

>> No.14894097

What did the other waves have?

>> No.14894148

>>14894097
At this point? close to 30k

>> No.14894213

>>14894148
I don't think that's true. I remember Pomu in particular being fucked bad by sub cuts.

>> No.14894214
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>>14894097
this is Lazulight's subs immediately after debut

>> No.14894248

>>14892935
i hope they just implode, so yagoo won't even think Holostar EN is a good idea.

>> No.14894259

>>14894214
>after debut
This is pre-debut, so we should be using that as a reference point.

>> No.14894296

>>14894259
well that's the earliest I could grab so do your own archive reps if you want earlier ones

>> No.14894384

>>14894248
Anyone expecting anything more or less than 1k-2k viewers and decent SCs is just setting themselves up for disappointment. If they incline it won't be out of the gate.

>> No.14894722

>>14894384
HUH?! The girls barely get 2k. They'll hover around 500 max

>> No.14894812

>>14894722
They're gonna be more as popular as the females. I think Vox is a breakout star and will start beating some of HoloEN and vshojo.

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>>14892935
Vox got too cocky

>> No.14894979

>>14894097
Here's an image I found from searching "susan" in the archives. The boys had these numbers pre-susan so they seem to be doing on par with the rest of their group.

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>>14894928
nice edit bro
https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1472343219300184070

>> No.14895065

>>14894928
le bussy LOL

>> No.14895132

>>14895057
Kek

>> No.14895460

>>14892935
did they even debut yet? seems a bit too early to judge

>> No.14895512

>>14895460
In a few hours.

>> No.14895572

>>14893404
>Hololive changes their debut strategy to try to reduce the cull.
>NijiEN keeps the same debut style as before

They didn't adapt

>> No.14895621

>>14892935
Niji fans really don't watch male chuubas.

>> No.14895684

>>14895621
Either bait or retardation

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>>14894979
just realized I'm retarded and didn't post the image kek

>> No.14895888

These numbers fucking laughable even for a male gen. So much for Nijisanji being a "family"

>> No.14895919

>>14895572
Hololive lost several hundred thousands of subs. NijiEN wave 4 has barely lost a few thousand. Imagine if NijiEN lost hundreds of thousands of subs.

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>>14895888
>So much for Nijisanji being a "family"
If nijisanji is a family why were the ens streaming over nijisanji's big event today?

>> No.14896531

>>14895919
Cant loose what you don't have, unless negative subs are a thing?

Not even trying to numberfag here, the bot just prunes 10 to 30 percent of your total subs, no way are they gonna loose hundreds of thousands of subscribers.

>> No.14896750

>>14892935
Where did it all go wrong?

>> No.14896781

>>14895888
>>14896376
you guys just say shit and pretend it's nijiniggers that do for funsies

>> No.14896803

>>14894214
If I recall correctly, Elira reached 20K pre-debut, got Susan'd down to 14K, and was at about 18K at the time of the debut.

Vox was at 18K before he got Susan'd so I expect they'll be sitting at 25K post-debut.

>> No.14896917

>>14893506
>Mysta Rias
Sounds like an Ace Attorney name.

>> No.14896995

>>14892935
>what went wrong
No good thread has been made with those words

>> No.14897125

>>14895888
Only EN is desperate to seem like an united family and the bestest of friends, the other branches are more casual about that shit, even ID, the branch most people regard as the more united and friendly, doesn't try so hard to seem united and family-like, they just are.

>> No.14897209

>>14896781
No anon, you're not going to memoryhole the nijiniggers boasting about "NijiEN chemistry" and "unity" just because you're called out.

>> No.14897274

>>14896376
You do realize that nijiEN and nijiJP are different entities entirely right? They're ran completely separately and essentially separate companies.

>> No.14897285

>>14897209
chemistry and unity are a hell of a lot different than family anon, to begin with family implies the greater nijisanji populace while unity can simply refer to nijien

>> No.14897316

>>14897209
Nobody who actually watches nijisanji takes what you're saying seriously. You have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody in nijisanji engish watches anybody from nijisanji JP. They are completely separate. The chemistry people are talking about is between the girls in Nijisanji EN, who are all friends for years even before they were in Nijisanji

>> No.14898385

>>14893304
To be fair, I think that Sony wasn't purged just because their growth wasn't so fast to trigger youtube's purge.

>> No.14898491

They went with the fujobait route

If hololive, the people who made their entire company around targeting the most easily manipulated lowest common denominator failed, then what made them thing nijisanji would be able to do it.

Should have just debuted EN yashikizu and maimoto

>> No.14898719

>>14893304
>>14898385
Sony's VERSEn was purged, though.

>> No.14898785

>>14898491
Yashiro and Maimoto are both drawn by a guy who draws gay porn for a living so the implication that their designs are less inherently gay is funny.

>> No.14898832

>>14898785
Fujobait has become a buzzword for any attractive male.

>> No.14898898

>>14895621
Of course, we do. We're all cucks and damn proud of it too.

>> No.14899014

>>14892935
people here are not into male vtuber
even female vtuber aren that big unless they are holos

>> No.14901962

>>14897316
>Nobody in nijisanji engish watches anybody from nijisanji JP.
If you are talking about the members then you are wrong, some of them are open fans of members of the JP branch, like Reimu with Kanae, Pomu with Mito or Petra with Nagao.

>> No.14902674

>>14898832
no it means twinks

>> No.14903234

>>14898491
>>14898785
Discussions like this really showcase how interesting and even amusing cultural differences can be.

>> No.14903274

>>14898785
Hey look just because it's gay in Japan doesn't mean it's gay in american, and last I checked it's the NijiEN branch that's getting new males, not JP.

>> No.14903310

>>14892935
Nobody watch male, there's simply no market for them

>> No.14903317

>>14898832
So bara/bear is count as fujobait?

>> No.14904335

>>14892935
They should've went the comedy route. Not guys who can throw out the occasional joke but actual funny people, comedians, gag cartoon artists, or at the very least sketch comedy writers/actors.

>> No.14906258

>>14892935
>vox cucked
Coomer whores get FUCKED

>> No.14909279

>>14893304
Technically the purge was less vicious when compared to council so the video being up kind of helped. They still go hit but I guess it could've been worse. Having a third of your subs removed vs. Council isn't so bad if you are going to be around for a long time. You can make up the difference if you're popular enough.

>> No.14909416

>>14898832
As an expert in fujoshit I can confidently say that they're not fujoshit designs, they're otomeshit designs. There're distinct design cues between characters designed for the respective markets.

>> No.14909576

>>14909279
Absolutely it helps, but the spastic algo is still gonna nuke the fuck outta subs repeatedly and routinely.
>>14898385
>>14898719
I didn't mean chuubas, I meant, say, official artist channels.

>> No.14909709

>>14897316
I watch both, shut the fuck up

>> No.14909890

>>14892935
Don't act as if the same thing happened to HoloX which was still a massive flop, Holofags.

Luxiem is going to surpass all of the irrelevant Holo nips in about a month.

>> No.14909924

>>14893929
How the FUCK are they crazy? I think they'll be even higher than 40K. You want Holofag seethe? You back it and then use the spiritual arguments if not.

>> No.14909998

>>14895888
They're higher than some of Ethyria's current sub count which also cucked HoloX

>> No.14910045

>>14899014
>>14903310
I am as are most of us here. Unlike Holocels, I actually watch VTubers.

>> No.14910118

>>14892935
Male debuff.

>> No.14910214

>selen and maybe elira are the only ones on track to get half a million subs by the time their 1 year anniversary comes around
>male vtubers is still a relatively unexplored concept besides fags like connor and nuxtable
>pee pee poo poo
>all they really need is to get some chicks and fags willing to gachi out for them and they can be set like how the holostars get shit views but lots of cash

>> No.14910253

>>14893404
Huh? Holo Council got purged like 3 times

>> No.14910349

>>14893730
It's been a while, but IIRC Pomu and Elira had much worse cuts, so it does mitigate the impact.
also
>to push the sub bots narrative
This doesn't even make sense. If uploading shorts stops/lowers the sub culling, then obviously it's just YouTube being retarded and not Hololive buying subs. It's evidence AGAINST that narrative.

>> No.14910386

>>14894097
Ethryia had around 12-13k pre-debut, so basically the same numbers.

>> No.14910456

>>14910386
Reminder HoloX barely had 10K kek
>>14910253
Because of the Coverbots of course.

>> No.14910458

>>14910386
No they didn't, they were pushing 20k+

>> No.14910531

>>14910458
2 days after the announcement?
I know the numbers were very similar 24 hours after the announcement at least.

>> No.14916484

>>14892935
LOL who cares about EN Homos

>> No.14916885

>>14892935
Susan hates anime. Simple as.

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