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Why are Japs like this?

>> No.14847161

>>14847126
Based.

>> No.14847181

well said

>> No.14847207

>>14847126
incels are rampant regardless of culture or nation.

>> No.14847232

>>14847207
ywnbaw

>> No.14847257

>>14847232
Ywnhswaw

>> No.14847262

>>14847126
why be nauseous over gays? is he homo phobe?

>> No.14847321

men aren't funny.

>> No.14847329

Based

>> No.14847350

>>14847126
Holy based

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>>14847126
Because japs aren't into dicks unlike amerimutts and you OP

>> No.14847417

based japs, EOPs could learn a thing or two from them

>> No.14847424

>>14847126
based

>> No.14847428

>>14847126
you mean why are holofags like this

>> No.14847446

>>14847321
This. Male vtubers feel so out of place that it's not even entertaining. They're kind of like white rappers in a sense that they don't belong in a platform dominated by a different creed.

>> No.14847460

>>14847126
dangerously based

>> No.14847495

>>14847207
Honestly, this chinkflu is doing too much damage to the psychomotor functionality for people to notice.

Everyone's going to come out of this derailed as hell

>> No.14847502 [DELETED] 

>>14847399
>japs aren't into dicks
DYRBI

>> No.14847510

>>14847126
inb4 americuck seethe

>> No.14847540 [DELETED] 

>>14847399
>that pic
did they do this on muslim country too?

>> No.14847543

>>14847126
Actually based.

>> No.14847605

>>14847126
Because we are here for cute girls. Not men.

>> No.14847628

>>14847126
based, cucks are a waste of air

>> No.14847629

>>14847126
we need more based people like him

>> No.14847694

>Agreeing with a jap incel autist who watches vtubers
Truly some people reached a new low. Your oshi won't be fucking you because she prefers someone like me over you, disgusting waste of air

>> No.14847715

>>14847694
you will never be a woman, kys

>> No.14847728

>>14847126
Sorry bros, OP was absolutely BTFO on twitter and you are in the minority.
https://twitter.com/WhoThenNoFire/status/1471657578912698370?t=WepyYTIUyB9wuFdzCPqvzg&s=19

>> No.14847738

>>14847715
Says the man who hates men. Rumao rumao.

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>>14847694
Where do you think you are?

>> No.14847787

>>14847738
projecting that I'm a chink, how interesting, chink tranny detected

>> No.14847808

>>14847694
Delusional incel. I am balls deep in my oshi as we speak and she will never meaningfully interact with any other male.

>> No.14847813 [DELETED] 

>>14847540
>did they do this on muslim country too?
you can, if you want to be hanged

>> No.14847826

>>14847787
Rumao isn't the same as wumao, newfag troon.

>> No.14847835

>>14847126
ฺBased

>> No.14847849

>>14847207
oh no some guy is going to stop watching a certain vtuber, what a rampant problem of Japanese culture

>> No.14847857

>>14847694
>Your oshi won't be fucking you
i don't understand why people keep using this strawman, it's not even about that.

>> No.14847861

>>14847126
Holy based.

>> No.14847864

>>14847446
>>14847321
you will never be a woman

>> No.14847865

>>14847826
cope
seethe
dilate
mald
sneed

>> No.14847880
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14847880

some of these people are seriously mentally ill

>> No.14847882

>>14847849
You interpreted his post to be the exact opposite of what it was saying. Impressive.

>> No.14847924

>>14847126
based if not a fake account. twitterfags will probably eat him alive though

>> No.14847929

>>14847865
YWNBAW.

>> No.14847932

>>14847694
>Agreeing with a jap incel autist who watches vtubers
You are wrong. People here are arguing with a picture.

>> No.14847966

>>14847929
ywnbaw

>> No.14847970

>>14847738
not wanting to watch these fags flirt with the women doesn't mean I hate all men.

>> No.14847990

>>14847970
>Fags
>Flirting with women
It doesn't work like that.

>> No.14848015

>>14847715
>>14847864
>>14847929
>>14847966
YWNBJ

>> No.14848017

>>14847990
uh have you seen the nijiEN twitter interactions so far? retard

>> No.14848032

>>14848017
Yes. If you take any of that as flirting you are mentally ill.

>> No.14848049

>>14847126
He's clearly not japanese though?

>> No.14848051

>>14848015
you will always be a disgusting brownskin.
>>14848032
this cope is pretty sad by you.

>> No.14848085

>>14847126
> fake account
japs don't care, stop coping

>> No.14848086
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>>14847495
>people who didn't use the internet before are crazy now

>> No.14848094

>>14847126
It's not the Japanese who has this exact opinion

>> No.14848096

>>14848051
I don't feel threatened by legitimate buttpirates. I'm sincerely sorry that you do.

>> No.14848118 [DELETED] 

>>14847540
They did it in the UAE this pride month.
The backlash from the general population to the stunt killed a movement going through their government to stop executing people for homosex.
Good job.

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>>14847880
it's the result of long discord brainwashing. there were servers in 2020 dedicated to feed rrats about Niji to clueless holofags who came to the scene from Azur Lane and reddit

>> No.14848132

>>14848051
found the incel

>> No.14848140

>>14848049
>>14848085
It's a real account and he's a Jap.
https://twitter.com/WhoThenNoFire

>> No.14848141

If you don't want to watch male nijis flirt with your oshi and slowly become more than coworkers, you are not welcome in this community. Period.

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>>14848118
>The backlash from the general population to the stunt killed a movement going through their government to stop executing people for homosex.
based USA

>> No.14848187

>>14848141
why do you take every male and female interaction as flirting

>> No.14848202

>>14848141
incel, go back to your containment

>> No.14848237

>>14848086
Honestly I have to appear slightly more unhinged whenever I do speak to people in real life. I was able to compartmentalize my online & real life personalities a lot better then I had to work in person and thus wasn't in online mode 95% of the time

>> No.14848246

>>14848096
you should be, they are disgusting and immoral inshallah.
>>14848132
you looked in a mirror?
>>14848187
>>14848202
kyses

>> No.14848257

>>14847126
Why was a jap watching EN in the first place?

>> No.14848304 [DELETED] 

>>14848118
All planned baby

>> No.14848352

>>14847882
He was saying that incels are rampant problem in any culture (including Japan)
but incels in Japan not watching a certain western vtuber is not a problem for them.

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14848381

> BASE BASED BASED BASED BASED
> MEN BAD MEN BAD
> FUJOS GET THE FUCKING ROPE!!

>> No.14848410

>>14848381
yes, Alhamdulilah

>> No.14848437

>>14848381
Why do cucks get so offended when someone stops watching their oshi?

>> No.14848445

>>14848246
INCEEEEEEEEELLL

>> No.14848483

>>14848445
your words are meaningless, Allah guide my hand

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> Why do cucks get so offended when someone stops watching their oshi?

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> your words are meaningless, Allah guide my hand

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>>14848381
those girls show a lot of skin brother, that is haram!

>> No.14848574 [DELETED] 

>>14847399
Found the schizo that thinks the female vtuber will notice him in chat

>> No.14848579

Western whores need Islam and the soijak posting confirms this

>> No.14848655

>>14847728
>all the replies shitting on him have pronouns in bio and/or pride flags

nijibros explain

>> No.14848656

Truly the Allah poster is based and you losers are cringe. Seek Christ and realize these women will never be worth your seed, just enjoy their fake personas while you can because they will get old and they will be whores and they will have children out of wedlock because none of them seek God like they should.

>> No.14848680

this board is full of far-right fags, conservative bigots who idolize the japanese patriarchy and the opressive "idol" standards for hololive talents and now they're forcing this on every female vtuber

>> No.14848681

>>14848655
trips confirm nijitrannies need to dilate

>> No.14848689

>>14847126
holy based

>> No.14848721

>>14848680
please 41% yourself as soon as possible, thank you!

>> No.14848722

>>14848680
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8 out of 8

>> No.14848746

>>14848680
i wouldn't mind living in an oppressive matriarchal male idol standard if that meant i could be a millionaire by just not being fat and opening an only fans desu

>> No.14848790

>>14848656
OP tweet has zero likes
> tons of replies shitting on him for being a incel

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14848816

Indeed, no vtuber would ever care about 4ch-

>> No.14848922

>>14848790
To be jeered by Twitter is an honour. Just look at what they applaud.

>> No.14848959

>>14848790
Everyone on this fucking website who's funny or has worth to what they say is banned from that platform if course there's zero likes lmfao

>> No.14849002

Guys, please get this into your heads:

The anime girl will never fuck you.

No, you don't have a chance. She is going to make you feel like you do, but it's all female mindgames.
She is not your girlfriend, she is not your wife, she is nothing close to you.
Take your meds, accept reality is shit, and watch vtubers for the entertainment, not for parasocial relationships

>> No.14849005

Are you guys LARPing as unicorns for (you)s or do you really seethe over a female VTuber existing in the same vicinity as a male

>> No.14849031

>>14849005
some of us watch vtubers for CGDCT not for males, so yes NijiEN males and what they have done recently, that's that shit I don't like

>> No.14849037

>>14847126
I don't see the problem.

>> No.14849074

holochads win again

>> No.14849084

>>14849031
the occasional male conversation or collab in no way impedes on your ability to watch female-only streams

>> No.14849099

>>14847694
how can you not get the very simple point dumb retard go back

>> No.14849124

>>14847207
incels are the ones complacent enough to accept male collabs, a woman expects you to be mad about such things

>> No.14849142

Japan problem is being a dying nation without therapists and psychiatrics put it together with depression because capitalism, sexism because of a uncivilized culture and a fake economy you have all the escapism. Believe me, most japs problems would be solved by AmE and bnE medicines

>> No.14849167

> incel incel incel touch grass
are we having a influx of twitterfags or what

>> No.14849168

>>14849124
Anon... a female VTuber pretending like she's sad that you aren't upset over her collabing with men is just doing GFE for cash, they don't actually care if the faceless entity that is chat doesn't care if she talks to a male.

>> No.14849223

>>14849168
using a lot of negatives instead of saying what you mean straight, you doubt what you say?
regardless your sentence is nonsense

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>>14849002
The anon is right. You will never get the idol experience you crave from Nijisanji girls. They do not care about what you want.
Come home.

>> No.14849267

>>14849223
I spoke in clear and plain English, sorry that I don't care to dumb it down for ESLs.

>> No.14849281

Honestly at this point I don't care about male collabs because all vtubing women are whores at heart. I just don't want anymore fag shit being promoted, but I imagine most of the en guys are flags.

>> No.14849288

>>14849267
Sus, where you from? I bet you're ESL.

>> No.14849371

>>14847857
I know right. I have zero expectations to ever be with, meet or even be in the same room as the girl, doesn't mean I wanna see my Oshi interact with a guy on-stream. Luckily, she never will.
The chuubas I watch that do interact with males know how to keep those sort of things professional on-stream and you'll never, never catch them fawning over guys publicly ever.

>> No.14849374

>>14849288
>Sus
You have one more chance to motivate me to continue this conversation. Speak wisely.

>> No.14849379

>>14848816
Whats that W? I thought it was wakarimasen but turns out the icon is different.

>> No.14849380

The only good thing about (You) is that you will never reproduce.

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>>14848790
>get ratio'd on twitter sweetie
this is nu-nijisanji fanbase HAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.14849394

>>14849374
It's already done, my original point stands and your jargon is irrelevant.

>> No.14849416

>>14847126
>boo hoo male chuubas!
Don't care, as long as they aren't shithead trashheap E-Celebs (what Mori, Ollie, and Vshitshow slobber over) I do not care. At the end of the day they are simply free entertainment. Vtubers should only interact with other Vtubers and actual celebrities, there are already a bunch of male vtubers I enjoy, anituber clout trash gets the rope as well as the people who tolerate their garbage.

>> No.14849439

>>14849379
warosu

>> No.14849458

>>14849394
You had no point to begin with and continue to have no point. You're an ESL that speaks in meme terminology.

>> No.14849491

>>14849458
UK.
Seethe incel.

>> No.14849507

>>14849439
Oh, forgot about it because it needs cookies for that gay ass cloudflare protection.

>> No.14849560

>>14848680
Japan is a matriarchy

>> No.14849597

>>14849371
Wait... What?
Let me get this straight:

>Your oshi is not your girlfriend
>You will never meet your oshi
>Your oshi doesn't know or care about you

And even knowing all that, you still care if she has interactions with males?
What new kind of retardation is that? I knew this board was full of weirdos, but I refuse to accept this kind of mentality is normal here.

>> No.14849609

>>14849491
A country overflowing with muzzies and other immigrants. So yes, you are an ESL.

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>>14848118
>narcissists who cry for attention and demand that everybody bend over backwards for them are lowering tolerance of LGALPHABET people, actively making things worse for the ones who just want to live their life (because they now get lumped in with the narcissists), and are so thoroughly unlikable that the government vetoed a law that would make it illegal to kill them

>> No.14849661

>>14847126
lmao imagine believing someone with kana in their username is actually Japanese

>> No.14849693

>>14849661
Look at their account baka

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>>14847126
based

>> No.14849722

>>14849597
It's not retardation, it's how things should be. If you wanna bury your head into the sand or watch chuubas that don't follow that line of thought, be my guest. My Oshi understands that is an issue and has promised herself that will NEVER be a problem. They themselves enforce this type of behavior.

>> No.14849751

>>14847321
*men are funny except when they are vtubers, excluding Roberu

>> No.14849790

>>14849751
Holofags really think Roberu is the best male VTuber in the industry, huh?

>> No.14849835

>>14849693
probably a larper, now kys

>> No.14849852

>>14849835
Cope.

>> No.14849854

>>14848816
>the one vtuber from south america who happens to be from my country also happens to be the one that browses /vt/

bro what are the fucking chances

>> No.14849926

>>14847126
Based and purity pilled

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>>14849167

>> No.14849950

>>14849388
I never understood this ratiod thing. That only proves how much salt a simple tweet had over a big number of people

>> No.14849964

>>14849722
My dude, you are in denial. You say you understand that there is NO direct relationship between you and your oshi, but still acts like she speaks directly to you, making promises and reserving herself to you.
Let's get into a scenario: By accident, it's revealed that your oshi has a boyfriend. She never brings it up again on stream, but everyone now knows this is true. Would you stop watching her?

>> No.14849977

>>14849854
Pekora browses 5ch. They're internet personalities, they're on the internet most of their day. The ones who grew up amidst the internet culture to at least be aware and gotten curious of anonymous imageboards is fairly high.

>> No.14850094

>>14849977
Since when this rrat was born?

>> No.14850100

>>14849852
Turns out you're right but
>316.2K Tweets
>8 years
Being generous that's more than 100 tweets per day, he's mentally ill

>> No.14850154

>>14849964
Yes.
She didn't promise to me 'individual' she promised to us 'her fanbase'. I'm part of her fanbase, it's a faceless collective. If she gonna make promises, she has to either follow through with them or be such a good actress that you won't notice. Also make sure she hides it well enough, no amount of acting can make up for the truth.

>> No.14850156

>>14847126
>Finana has 13 stds

>> No.14850163

>>14847126
>dizzy and nauseous
that's just low test and diabetes

>> No.14850168

>>14847126
Based jap. Making nijicucks seethe both here and on Twitter.

>> No.14850190

>>14850100
Watching vTubers is a mentally ill hobby. Cope.

>> No.14850213

>>14850190
seethe incel

>> No.14850245

>>14850190
VTubers are just streamers and watching streams is the most normalfag hobby there is.

>> No.14850269

>>14849609
cope

>> No.14850274

>>14850245
>streams is the most normalfag hobby there is
That's a cope. Zoomers watch streamers

>> No.14850306

>>14850274
>normalfag
>normal

>> No.14850332

>>14850274
And zoomers are normalfags so that changes absolutely fuck-all.

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14850374

This is why Nijisanji will always be a failure.

>> No.14850469

>>14847126
>Twitter screencap thread
Go back

>> No.14850525

>>14849597
oshi = someone important you love
you = a number for your oshi
oshi is where she is thanks to many of you

now if oshi has a bf, then that means she is being unfair to all of her you(cucking them). so you can choose to keep being a cuck or not.

>> No.14850614

>>14847849
Learn to read, retard

>> No.14850620

>>14850525
>oshi = someone important you love
Oshi is essentially just used like "favorite". It's used for favorite characters in anime, idol groups, or even favorite ships. I've seen somebody refer to a fucking rat as their oshi before, and no, I'm not talking about Bae. You're attributing an inherently romantic meaning to something that has none.

>> No.14850623

>>14849241
>idol experience
There's no difference, they won't fuck you either. The only one getting fucked is yagoo himself

>> No.14850693

>>14850623
This is false.
They want to fuck me, im just not in Japan.

>> No.14850715

he's actually so mad
this is someone's son

>> No.14850728

>>14847126
Because they understand what this hobby and profession is about and don't want it to be infiltrated by riajuu like you.

>> No.14850788

>>14850728
Nijisanji was bigger than Hololive for a long time. If anything the "no males" policy is the subversive and more recent mentality.

>> No.14850793

>>14850623
>The only one getting fucked is yagoo himself
Hai, that is me.

>> No.14850836

>>14847126
Based Gatekeeper

>> No.14850841

>>14847126
>Why are Japs like this?
Because they're all a bunch of betas who do not know how to approach women in real life

>> No.14850879

>>14848680
41%

>> No.14850900

>>14847126
BASED AS FUCK

>> No.14850960

>>14849597
Are you an unempathetic, out of touch woman or just a retard normie currently in the process of getting filtered, yearning for (You)s?

Why would I want to constantly be reminded that I'm single. You are clearly the retard in all of this. Please do the world a favor and self-immolate, or at the very least put your balls in a garbage disposal so you don't ever fill the world with more trash like you.

>> No.14851019

>>14849241
this fucking pic man
cracks me up every time
anyone knows the sauce?

>> No.14851032

>>14849964
Absolutely. You seem to think women should just be able to have everything they want at the expense of others. But they aren't free to do whatever they want when they're baiting superchats from lonely men, desperate for female interaction while implying they're single. If they're not upfront about being in a relationship and then fail to ever mention that, they're manipulative pieces of shit preying on vulnerable men at their lowest. These women completely rely on their audience. The absolute least they could do is be honest.

>> No.14851045

If he's japanese can't he watch any of the niji jp girls that hardly collab with guys outside of group/sponsor collabs? Also what previous EN members is he talking about?

>> No.14851053

>>14849241
Yes sir papa Yagoo, you are the only home for me in this shit world.

>> No.14851083

>>14850841
How is that beta? Not accepting other males is literally alpha behavior. Stop using terms at random like some Twitch tranny ffs.

>> No.14851090

>>14850620
maybe i am adding a romantic meaning to a word, but the hologirls are perceived like that by the fans otherwise rushia earnings wouldn't make any sense

>> No.14851097

>>14851032
If you don't mention taking a shit on stream, are you implying that you never shit ever? Is it dishonest to never bring up taking shits? Taking dumps in the toilet? Poopoo diarrhea?

>> No.14851132

>>14847728
>completely BTFO
>4 nijitranny cucks rushing to defend their twitch-tier thot with meme gifs and pepe frogs.

What did anon mean by this?

>> No.14851152

>>14847126
Holy based

>> No.14851156

>>14851083
It's not alpha to start pissing your pants at the sight of another man. It's insecurity.

>> No.14851230

Every single person who watches vtubers is for parasocial reasons. Regardless of wheter you accept your fake 2D girlfriend hanging with other dudes or not, you are the same, except that one is more cucked in his delusion.

>> No.14851237

>>14851156
stop being a weirdo, "the sight of another man" you daft faggot.

>> No.14851242

>>14849597
anon, let me tell you how stories work
they need to have a sort of "internal consistency"
things that happen in the story have to feel like they are plausible in that world
when a plot beat happens because "the author made it so" it ruins a lot of the story experience. You get taken out of it, and the entire story loses all meaning.

Now, similarly, there's a whole side of vtubing that has the rule of "keep male relationships professional" and "don't have a boyfriend unless it's SUPER well hidden".

A lot of people enjoy this arrangement because whores are a dime and a dozen in the West. Genuinely good girls are a hard find. So we enjoy watching them go about their lives. It's a fantasy, but that's what's being sold.

Now extrapolate what happens when one of the "story rules" are broken.

>> No.14851246

>>14850374
Don't you fucking DARE use quinton to try and mask your cuck tendencies of giving woman free money for pretending to be boyfriend free. That's one step to far you fucking cuck nigger

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I am so embarrassed by how many newfag cucks are glorifying males who are going to interact with their favorite oshi's.
What happened to this place, it became a reddit.

>> No.14851262

>>14848680
This world is unfair, anon. Women don't have to work at all and will have everything handed to them in life. They will never know loneliness or rejection. If your preferred version of society were reality, there would be no need for men to exist at all.

>> No.14851288

>>14848790
>>14851132

>> No.14851298
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>>14847126

>> No.14851324

>>14847126
based

>>14847728
ultra based

>>14847694
you don't belong here, faggot

>> No.14851333

>>14851230
I watch them for entertainment, that's why I watch Sana. Who the hell wants an aussie as a GF?

>> No.14851339

>>14851261
it really ramped up with the redditors sometime over the summer, it sucks but theyre like virtual californians ruining everything they touch

>> No.14851368

>>14851261
What if my oshi is a man (male) himself tho?

>> No.14851393

>>14851368
Proof?

>> No.14851437

>>14851393
Saw his roommate account, pretty dudely.

>> No.14851451

>>14851261
You say this like Matsuri wasn't always a favorite for her lolicon tendencies prior to recent events. Hating VTubers for collabing with men is a recent import from 5ch, not an inherent moral that defines the greater culture here.

>> No.14851460

>>14851261
Always has been ;}

>> No.14851491

>>14851261
Male vtubers have been a thing for a long time before vtubing came to the west though? There are fans of male vtubers on this very board as well as a history of male streamers generally being more entertaining than female streamers (at least in the west). This place is acting like the Niji males are some massive shift to vtubing when it really isn't, the west is just miles behind japan in terms of vtubing and we're still playing catch up to shit that's normal over there.

>> No.14851512

test

>> No.14851520

>>14851097
Talk about false equivalencies. What even is this line of reasoning? This is so retarded I don't even know where to begin. Everyone takes shits. Not everyone is in a relationship. And certainly not everyone has as easy access to sex and relationships that women do. Why would I want to watch a slut who doesn't care about her audience?

Also, streamers don't mention shitting because it's gross. Whores don't mention having a boyfriend because they're trying to maximize their profits by preying on the vulnerable. What the fuck is wrong with you? I know you're not this retarded.

>> No.14851561

>>14851156
It's certainly more alpha than jacking off at the idea of getting cucked.
I don't even care about the whole male-female chuuba interaction thing, I truly don't. But boy is it hilarious seeing people who aren't into cucking getting called "incels" and "betas".

>> No.14851568

>>14851451
>>14851491
This doesn't mean anything

>> No.14851592

>>14851520
They don't mention taking shits because their audience doesn't want to hear it and it disgusts them. They don't mention having boyfriends because their audience doesn't want to hear it and it disgusts them. If you dislike them pandering to you in such a fashion, you could always simply watch Vshojo.

>> No.14851630

>>14851561
Imagine paying a girl to have fun with another guy who isn't you.
These cuckolds are sick

>> No.14851633

>>14851568
Not an argument.

>> No.14851682

>>14851568
People are glorifying the males because western men on average are much more entertaining than western women.

>> No.14851714

>>14851633
likewise

>> No.14851731

>>14851261
Imagine have Niji as your oshi. Like wtf are you doing? I like Nijisanji a lot (fuck Tribal bullshit) but come on.

>> No.14851768

>>14847126
Did you screenshot your own tweet?

>> No.14851778

>>14851731
>I like Nijisanji but I can't imagine liking the Nijisanji talents
???

>> No.14851835

>>14851778
You don't know what oshi means dumbass.

>> No.14851837

>people are STILL trying the "you just don't want it because you think your oshi will one day be with you" argument
My God how long will this stupidity last, do people really not get it?

>> No.14851920

>>14851837
Look at this disgusting anon, I don't know what he's doing /here/
GO BACK NORMIE

>> No.14851921

>>14849597
By that logic people shouldn't have boycotted and left the streamer who crushed his kitten when sleeping, because nothing he does IRL will ever directly affect them.

>> No.14851945

>>14851837
They don't and do not want to. People gaslight and make shit up about anyone with opposing ideas to fit them into this general idea/belief when usually it's more complicated than what they're portraying or simply not true.

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>/vt/ when their oshi dares to mention m*le

>> No.14851957

>>14851835
Clearly you're the one that doesn't. It doesn't have any inherent romantic or sexual connotations whatsoever. Literally the equivalent of "bias" when it comes to a series or idol group. Your favorite within a given group is your oshi. If it were to mean your one and only you wouldn't be able to have multiple oshis to begin with, terms such as kamioshi or saioshi wouldn't exist.

>> No.14852004

>>14851951
Hey, I read this recently...

>> No.14852009

>>14851592
>You could watch literal, disgusting whores who are upfront about manipulating you instead of Nijiwhores, who manipulate you but pretend they aren't.

Ah, I see why you're confused now. You can't comprehend the idea of a woman existing without a boyfriend You think it's unfair to offer a woman money, fame, and opportunity for the temporary cost of her dating life. You're projecting that by saying they all secretly have boyfriends. This is true for NijiEN and even a couple Holos, and they are scum for not being upfront about it. I only watch chuubas whom I'm confident aren't getting plowed every night by a boyfriend or using my superchats on condoms.

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>>14851957
Eww.

>> No.14852046

>>14852009
based

>> No.14852105

>>14852009
>I only watch chuubas whom I'm confident aren't getting plowed every night by a boyfriend or using my superchats on condoms
Go ahead and state who those chuubas are, since you're so confident. Like you said, women have it infinitely easier than men when it comes to dating and relationships and sex. It's a fool's errand to try and find a female VTuber who you believe you stand on equal footing with, relationship wise.

>> No.14852136

>>14852033
Cope.

>> No.14852150

>>14851957
Find some 草 and touch it.

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>>14849005
I instantly drop every chuuba girl who interacts with male
problem?

>> No.14852195

You can say what you want about incels, but they're the type that will donate dem aka suppa chattos.

>> No.14852198

>>14850154
>>14849964
>>14849722
>>14850960
>So its about pretending that you have friends and people who care about you.
Fucking kek, rather then work on expanding you social network and developing some interpersonal skills, you'd rather give your money and time to some streamer who tells you losers are fine just the way you are, and there is no need to work on yourself at all.

Jesus you people are just as bad as those fatties who squeal body positivity rather then spend 30 minutes a day on a treadmill.

>> No.14852203

>>14847126
HOLY FUCKING BASED!!!!

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Lol what a loser, no one cares about that fag and no one cares about (You). Get filtered, this industry doesn't belong to you.

>> No.14852224

impressed at the number of incels seething in this thread

>> No.14852226

>>14849167
this board is full of salty 2views who hate hololive and the "idol culture", what did you expected? you can see them sperging on twitter too. not to mention vt_takes attracting a lot of tourists and newfags

>> No.14852288

>>14852198
>I'm mad and having a tantrum because I'm in the process of getting filtered

>> No.14852311

>>14852213
95% of supperchats are from unicorns, the industry does in fact belong to them

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>>14851951

>> No.14852325

>>14852198
yes ok you can go back to twatter and leddit now

>> No.14852333

>>14852311
Mori's Canadian oil barons would suggest otherwise.

>> No.14852353

>>14849944
They wouldn't actually say tranny though

>> No.14852369

>>14852198
You can project as much as you like, I'm enjoying it, ledditor.

>> No.14852426

When I tune into a vtuber, I want some escapism. I want to watch a cute anime girl do cute things. I neither want to hear about real life shit like politics, religion, nor do I want to see what she actually looks like. And in the same vein I also don't want to hear about how she actually has some bf or husband or fuckbuddy or whatever else.

I just want to forget about the tribulations of life for a moment and watch a cute anime girl, that's it.

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14852462

thoughts on Tamaki instituted collab policy of her chuuba company?
https://twitter.com/norioo_/status/1345034263339573248?t=IdO-24IZ6gTG5QTIjBmvmw&s=19
based or cringe

>> No.14852477

>>14852426
What fucking vtubers are bringing up religion
Or even politics

>> No.14852482

>>14852426
A VTuber talking to a man on Twitter in no way kills your ability to tune into her stream and escape whatsoever.

>> No.14852528

>>14852477
Futakuchi Mana.

>> No.14852549

>>14847126
He's right, but not for the good reason.
I don't care if my oshi collab with a male vtuber, plays, laughs, sings or whatever with him, but these kinds of messages on tweeter whoring herself ? Yikes it's disgusting.
They will be her coworkers, and she publicly write that.
Did she not have a bit of self esteem ?
I really prefer the jap girls for that, as I only watch those who will never act like these kind of whore.

>> No.14852556

>>14852482
I didn't say that, I'm just explaining the mindset in general.

>> No.14852579

>>14847126
i'm glad japaneses are driving themselves to extinction, soon their shitty culture and autism will be no longer on the earth

>> No.14852593

>>14852462
Seems based to me, you know what you get at least.

>> No.14852621

>>14852549
How is expressing excitement for a new VTuber wave in your group "whoring" yourself

>> No.14852647

>>14852579
No one is forcing you to watch the very few groups out there that actually do idol culture, you know?
You can always stick to the tens of thousands of western whoretubers on Twitch which you no doubt already watch, who openly have bfs

>> No.14852683

>>14852549
>watching Finana for more than a second
>expecting her not to drool over something that might be considered attractive without a gallon of vodka

>> No.14852718

>>14852462
Norio-sensei was upfront about not wanting gachikoi and later about her marriage and I will always respect her for that. She has a conscience and is a wonderful woman who told her audience the truth. I might not superchat her, but I'll watch her streams and support her in other ways. She will always be based.

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>> No.14852738

>>14852647
>You're either an idol or you're a whore
The absolute state of this board.

>> No.14852772

>>14847857
Its always about that though, keep coping because your oshi wont fuck you, dilator.

>> No.14852778

>>14852725
I do hope you realize the people against male collabs are, in fact, the subverters killing the hobby here. There's a reason pretty much every Hololive member used to collab with men and now doesn't.

>> No.14852793

>>14852738
t. virgin

>> No.14852818

>>14847126
Like what? Being based?
The very very least a vtuber can do is pretend to love her fans only. I don't wanna see two weebs flirting with each other and I certainly won't pay for it.Don't think this is unreasonable desu

>> No.14852854

>>14852818
Exactly.

>> No.14852857

>>14852778
they don't collab with males because japanese Hololive audience have expressed their dislike for that pretty strongly in the past
are you saying they shouldn't listen to their fans? their gachikoi? really?

>> No.14852863

>>14852778
No.

>> No.14852875

>>14852818
Male and female interaction is not inherently flirtatious in nature.

>> No.14852900

>>14852579
>One of the most populous countries on Earth with over 120 million people driving themselves to extinction.

Their population is shrinking like all first world countries that aren't replacing their population with uneducated third world rapists, but if you think they're going to disappear completely, you are severely retarded. But I guess I wouldn't expect anything more from a NijiEN/Vshojo fan like you.

>> No.14852910

>check finana twitter out of curiosity
>dozens upon dozens upon dozhens of tweets about the men, retweeting shipping art of her and them, constant flirting

Niji fans actually support this? Good lord

>> No.14852925

>>14852311
This is pure /vt/ fiction. If this was true the male gen would have never happened. Also these are EN chuubas so no one gives a shit.

>> No.14852975

>>14852875
For insecure weeb's otakus it is, and this is the fandom

>> No.14853005

>>14852857
>because japanese Hololive audience have expressed their dislike for that pretty strongly in the past
A minority of the audience, maybe. When Hololive members actually ask their fans on stream if they'd care the majority answers "no". I don't care if you personally don't want male collabs, but the fact remains that it was normal prior to Hololive's takeover, and is now controversial enough for a thread like this to take root.
>>14852863
>4 kings all collab with men, people laugh and enjoy
>Nijisanji members all collab with men, people laugh and enjoy
>Hololive members stop collabing with men, now it's even controversial for non-Hololive members to collab with men
It's obvious who the subverters are here, and it's not the popular VTubers of years gone by.

>> No.14853042

>>14853005
Holofags who think they are the original chuuba fans are deeply retarded

>> No.14853097

>>14853005
People aren't going to publically say "Yes, I don't want you to collab with men".
But they'll think it. And when it happens they might stop sending SCs or even stop supporting them.
Only very few people have the guts to actually publically admit to feeling this way. This is true even in the west. You could go on Reddit and ask them the same thing right now and no doubt you'd barely even get 1% of replies saying that they would mind.

But when it actually happens? Suddenly it's a lot more people who aren't happy about it. Many of them would leave quietly though.

>> No.14853119

>>14853097
This

>> No.14853138

>>14852900
>One of the most populous countries on Earth
Dude, they had a recession for the last 20 or so years.

>> No.14853155

the thread reminded me of this yab
https://streamable.com/82tfiw

>> No.14853174

>>14852462
Entirely correct. One aspect of Noripro I always enjoy is very clear expectation management. Norio, an unironic idol fan an unicorn that she is, personally watches most streams, reads twitter feeds, etc., so you can be sure that a) the girls know what’s expected of them; b) they wouldn’t dream of trying to pull a fast one and try to slip something untoward into content likes Holos sometimes do.

>> No.14853184

>>14852900
japanese birth rates are even more fucked because of their autism and escapism, shit like anime isekai and "GFE" vtubers like hololive just supports this behaviour but i don't expect you to understand fucking incel

>> No.14853191

>>14853097
Nothing more than a headcanon unless you have statistics backing this up. There's no doubt that unicorns are rich and are pandered to for a reason. But there's nothing suggesting they constitute the majority of the audience, either. Especially if people won't even say as much on an anonymous poll. Regardless, the fact remains that Hololive has greatly contributed to the notion that VTubers should not collab with men whereas it was normal beforehand. The people who want things to go back to the way they were before are not the subverters here.

>> No.14853196

>>14847126
Why is this guy even watching Nijisannji in he fist place? All girls from all branches collab with men

>> No.14853204

>>14853097
>You could go on Reddit
Dude, out of all places you've picked the one that is designed around conformism.

>> No.14853209

>>14848120
>shitty japanese daytime drama where the only thing that happens is who fucked who
this is literally nijisanji, they force male female pairing, i swear it's like some shitty drama which is why i don't watch them and this is the future of NijiEN.

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why do top Japanese superchatted chuubas refuse to interact with males?
curious

>> No.14853228

>>14853218
Because unicorns are rich. Who was arguing otherwise?

>> No.14853229

>>14853196
it's just a larping schizo, he's not even japanese, probably a chink

>> No.14853242

>>14853191
I don't see why people have to fight anyway. If you're okay with your vtubers flirting with men and possibly even being in relationships with men, watch Nijisanji. If you're not, watch Hololive.

>> No.14853249

>>14853097
You're not wrong, but at the same time if your oshi asks is you're okay with something, you say you don't mind and then get upset when it happens. You really don't have anyone to blame but yourself.

>> No.14853256

>>14853097
Here is the thing that you guys don't understand, no one fucking cares. Believe it or not most chuubas are not going to prioritize a few rich autists over both their own desires and the majority of their fanbase. That's not even about unicorns, that's just not how this works. Do you think this is like Hollywood where a couple of fossil investors dumping millions of dollars into a dying studio get to control and focus group everything to hell?

>> No.14853266

>>14853155
disgusting

>> No.14853272

>>14853005
>minority
I was in the fucking chat when Pekora asked that very question. The overwhelming response was "no". Rushia also regularly promises she won't ever collab with a male, which is positively received by chat every time. When Korone was offered the chance to collab with sonic, a fucking fictional character, she asked her chat if that's okay or if it bothered them before she accepted. Coco said that her streams were like a date and it would be an insult to her viewers if she brought along some guy(admittedly this changed once she left Hololive)

You don't watch streams because you're a filthy EOP casual who came into our hobby and is now demanding it change to suit yourself. Fuck you and go back.

>> No.14853277

>>14853218
Somethingsomething because they are oppressed by evil men and in reality they wish they could have daily collabs with men and flirt with them but the only reason they don't do it is because they are scared of their crazy fans.

Did I pretend to be a nijitard correctly?

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>>14853174
>try to slip something untoward into content likes Holos sometimes do
please elaborate

>> No.14853382

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGZz_zdb7ho

>> No.14853385

>>14853138
>>14853184
>Why yes, I am retarded. I have no idea how big 120 million is because I don't understand numbers.

>> No.14853386

>>14853272
You LARPing faggot, Pekora got mad at her own chat because they said they wouldn't give a fuck if she collabed with men. Coco who even pandered to unicorns in the past asked her chat as Kson if they'd be upset if she collabed with men and they said no. I don't wanna hear from clipfag like you that I'm an EOP who doesn't watch streams. Everyone fucking knows about Rushia's oil barons - doesn't change the fact that Mori's still past her in subs. Unicorns are a minority. Plain and simple.

>> No.14853397

>>14851951
source?

>> No.14853405

>>14853272
> coco
lost your argument here

>> No.14853408

>>14853242
Hololive has a responsibility as the bigger company to show the industry that incel behavior isn't welcome anymore. Do you really wanna be on the wrong side of virtual history?

>> No.14853435

>>14853191
Matsuri is living proof.

>> No.14853436

>>14853386
Mori's fans aren't even holo fans, they are just your average western twitch user who found their way over for Mori and Mori alone.
I wouldn't exactly use Mori's fans as an example of the "average holo fan".

>> No.14853447

>>14853386
What the fuck this mf is talking about. Fuck you.

>> No.14853484

>>14853447
Watch streams and cope.

>> No.14853533

>90% of vtubers out there are basically just your average twitch girl but with an anime model
>they do all the same stuff, collab with guys, have bfs etc.
>the remaining 10% don't do that to appeal to a smaller market who doesn't want that
>NO FUCK YOU YOU MUST CHANGE AND BE LIKE THE REST

>> No.14853548

>>14853484
Could you please not waste your time here mr chad normie. Please go back to twitter, don't worry about incels

>> No.14853552

>>14853249
People always try to give the answer they think the chuuba will feel favorably towards in the hope she'll see their name and take note, especially when they think she's being serious and not joking around. You see it every time the chat morphs from "take a break, don't push yourself" to "if you want to go five hours more we'll be here all the way supporting you!" just because the vtuber says she feels like it.

>> No.14853555

>>14853533
But literally the opposite is happening. People are saying that VTubers who collab with men should change to be like Hololive members.

>> No.14853605

>>14853533
The top 10% has the responsibility to lead by example and right now they're setting the wrong example. A corporate het pairing in hololive is the shakeup we need to lose the rest of you incel parasites

>> No.14853606

>>14853555
Literally who, who is saying that outside of maybe 1 person shitposting on /vt/?
For every 1 vtuber out there that doesn't do this there are a dozen or more that don't and no one asks them to change their ways. No one.

Why do you need 100% to cater to you? Isn't 95% enough?

>> No.14853650

>>14853606
The 100 IPs in this thread calling Finana a whore for daring to promote her kouhai you dumb fuck.

>> No.14853702

>>14853650
just stop you're embarrassing yourself

>> No.14853716

>>14848655
only sex criminals, pedophiles, kotaku journalists and sodomites use twitter

>> No.14853725

>>14853702
Not an argument, retard.

>> No.14853733

>>14853435
That drop in views and engagement was because of her being a menhera molester who did nothing but spam apex on her channel.

>> No.14853741

>>14849790
Nijimales are not funny, excluding mashiro who isnt a male because he is my wife

>> No.14853760

>>14853650
she's been a whore since the second she started vtubing

>> No.14853775

>>14850094
Since pekora debuted and people knew who her roommate was

>> No.14853776

>>14853435
Matsuris own gachikois told her it was because of her Apex addiction.

>> No.14853819

>>14853776
Matsuri is lucky she barely had any gachikois left by the time the door happened, that way she didn't have much left to lose

>> No.14853941

hi

>> No.14853947

Go watch Mousey flirt with some dude for 5 hours a day you fucking faggots.

Everybody consciously or not watches this shit for parasocial reasons, maybe even in your fantasy you like being a faggot gay-friend when it comes to fake 2D girls, but most of othe incels would rather their dellusion be pure.

And never forget that there's very little room or acceptance for negative feedback for vtubers, specially for westerners, so yes the majority of shit you'll see on twitter will be "YOU CAN DO NO WRONG QUEEN, YES DON'T MIND THE INCELS!" so you will never get real feelings and opinions, the EMBARASSING feelings such as "YOU ARE MY PURE IDOL, DON'T INTERACT WITH OTHER MEN IN FRONT OF ME PLEASE" you will only read shit like that from japs or this board of course. If this is not the silent majority it is at least big silent group.

I don't care if they want to do whatever they want to do regardless, what bother me the most is the faggots who think they are smart because they say "shes not gonna fuck you bro, why do you care?" these dudes think their brain doesn't have a parasocial relationship just because they can rationalize it. You are just as pathetic as every other parasocial incel here, except you are the type to be a cuck and a gay friend even when it comes to fake girls.

You have no standards that's why you hate Holo, you hate the parasocial incels because you're looking at a mirror so you try to separate yourself from them, but you're not different at all.

I'll take my meds now.

>> No.14853970

>>14853397
>asking for source on that artist
Might as well have typed "I'm an underage newbie"

>> No.14854011

>>14853947
>I'll take my meds now.
Please hurry.

>> No.14854019

>>14853947
Based, no meds needed

>> No.14854031

>>14853386
>Pekora got mad at her own chat because they said they wouldn't give a fuck if she collabed with men.

That's from a different stream you clip watching nigger. She was asking chat about collabing with a celebrity who everyone knew was too famous to collab with her. She was baiting those joke responses by demanding chat be possessive of her before she asked it, but that wasn't shown in that clip you watched, you disingenuous EOP faggot. I was referring to a time when she legitimately asked her fans what they thought, the majority of which were uncomfortable with the idea.

>The Holo with the highest normie audience is representative of the hobby as a whole and especially her Japanese counterparts, which collectively tower over her view counts, sub numbers, and superchats.
Mori's fans are literally fans of trash taste. You can tell because the Mori episodes didn't have a view count that was that much bigger than a normal episode when they came out. You're argument is that anituber fans are the majority of Hololive fans and should be representative of the hobby as a whole. I seriously hope you die.

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>>14853947

>> No.14854101

>>14853605
>multi millonaire company leading the market with all their experience and contacts are wrong because i say so
fuck off and there is no example since nobody gives a shit

>> No.14854142

>>14847126
Can't blame the guy.for having his priorities

>> No.14854157

>>14854101
Anon there are plenty of actual retards in the thread but that guy is clearly shitposting and baiting, cmon

>> No.14854165

>>14853436
>>14854031
>Mori's fans aren't ACTUAL hololive fans
Both sides of this are getting retarded, or they're just baiting one another.

>> No.14854202

>>14853716
these are the same person

>> No.14854220

>>14854165
It's true though. The vast majority of them have no interest in Hololive in general nor do they know anything about it. They're just here for Mori.
If Mori was gone tomorrow they'd leave with her and disappear.

>> No.14854223

>>14853533
>the remaining 10% don't do that to appeal to a smaller market who doesn't want that
>He doesn't know
That 10% were no different than the other 90% previously but good thing newfags don't know much about the past.

>> No.14854224

>>14847126
Japs spend a lot more than the west in SC, but they also expect more.

If she doesn't meet his expectations, he'll find a new oshi.

>> No.14854243

>>14847321
>Greatest comedians are men
>Men aren't funny
What did they mean by that

>> No.14854246
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>>14853605
>After all the fallout, "Of course I'll still watch you! I really wish I could superchat..." says the greyname who tunes in for an hour a week

>> No.14854252

>>14848680
and yet, almost everyone loves japan and wants to go there, maybe japanese have things figured out

>> No.14854269

>>14854223
The past doesn't matter. What matter is what they do during their time as that persona.

>> No.14854301

>>14853947
>Go watch Mousey flirt with some dude for 5 hours a day you fucking faggots.

The clip channel I subbed to because I don't watch twitch is super fuckin obnoxious. Is this the future you want? One of them having an obvious crush and spending a significant portions of their stream with them?
https://www.youtube.com/c/BestofIronmouse/search?query=cdawgva

>> No.14854420

>>14854031
Nice job evading the whole part about Kson you disingenuous fuck. Tell me, why would a former member of Hololive who pandered to unicorns, blatantly so-'s chat give her the go-ahead to collab with men? Why would that be a non-issue for such a majority of the audience she clearly pandered to? Unless, oh wait - they're not the majority. Why would Fubuki, who's always collabed with men have ever been the former queen of Hololive? Why would Botan's fans rally to defend her after a fan voiced discomfort about her collabing with a man if the majority of them agreed with it? And don't even try that "no true scotsman" fallacy bullshit here. Those Redditor Hololive fans that watch Trash Taste ARE representative of over a million of Hololive fans and you have to sit and cope with that you massive faggot. There is absolutely fuck-all suggesting unicorns make up a majority of the Hololive audience, just a very rich minority of it.

>> No.14854477

>>14853733
>>14853776
She was always menhera you retards. You think the Japanese give a shit if she touches the other girl's boobs? You think the other girls' care (besides pekora)? This isn't the west. The japanese don't see someone slapping their ass as a traumatic event that requires therapy and rape survivor consultation for the next 20 years. Get your head out of your ass.

Way to reveal your own ignorance. I was a huge matsuri fan before it was revealed she was a fake piece of shit whore.
The gachikoi left in June when she revealed on her roommate account that she had been lying about being a lonely virgin the entire time. The constant apex streams were a lead up to this, but it was her admitting she had manipulated her fans that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

>> No.14854488

>>14853605
>The top 10% has the responsibility to lead by example and right now they're setting the wrong example.
No, they don't. The top just show which was their path to success.

Hololive is a product, one that got popular. You can simply provide alternative products that cater to the specific markets that you wish to cater to. If your product doesn't make you money, clearly it's because it is not a compelling enough product to get the desired audience.

You can tell which chuubas have what type of audience and how much of it just by looking at their metrics.
>The top GFE chuubas do not have overwhelmingly high numbers, but they instead happen to have the wealthiest and most willing spenders.
>The ones that don't really do GFE tend to have the highest CCV simply for being entertaining by themselves.
>The ones most likely to have male collabs in whatever average much lower in CCV and SC but there are exception like Suisei and Mori who have a particular talent that attract audiences to their specific niche.
>And then there's the ones who are confirmed to have boyfriends/husbands/partners who will have no gachikoi of the unicorn variety because they're not interested in supporting someone that isn't going to give them more dedicated attention.

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>>14853947
>Go watch Mousey flirt with some dude for 5 hours a day you fucking faggots.
Ok.

>> No.14854566

>>14854477
I don't know why you're making shit up but I saw Matsuri give her own fans menhera replies on Twitter when they suggested gently that she play less Apex and I've seen former gachikois leave her by giving a series of akasupas telling her of their distaste for the game. You cannot separate Matsuri's gachikois leaving her from her Apex addiction. She was ready struggling to break 5k viewers back in June.

>> No.14854695

>>14854477
fuck off larping schizo

>> No.14854775

I don't know why anyone would willingly watch his oshi flirt with some dude on stream but I guess everyone is into different things.
At the very least have the courtesy to leave me and my oshi alone, we're perfectly fine the way it is, thank you.

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> She was always menhera you retards. You think the Japanese give a shit if she touches the other girl's boobs? You think the other girls' care (besides pekora)? This isn't the west. The japanese don't see someone slapping their ass as a traumatic event that requires therapy and rape survivor consultation for the next 20 years. Get your head out of your ass.

> Way to reveal your own ignorance. I was a huge matsuri fan before it was revealed she was a fake piece of shit whore.
> The gachikoi left in June when she revealed on her roommate account that she had been lying about being a lonely virgin the entire time. The constant apex streams were a lead up to this, but it was her admitting she had manipulated her fans that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

>> No.14854909

>>14851262
based...

>> No.14854918

>>14854854
Oh no, the wojack spammer is here

>> No.14854933

>>14853947
Dangerously based

>> No.14854945

>>14847126
Based

>> No.14854946

>>14853605
>People took a post that had "the shakeup we need to lose the rest of you incel parasites" in it completely seriously.
Jesus fucking Christ what happened to this place? Do you jackasses need a /s at the end every time?

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> She was always menhera you retards. You think the Japanese give a shit if she touches the other girl's boobs? You think the other girls' care (besides pekora)? This isn't the west. The japanese don't see someone slapping their ass as a traumatic event that requires therapy and rape survivor consultation for the next 20 years. Get your head out of your ass.

> Way to reveal your own ignorance. I was a huge matsuri fan before it was revealed she was a fake piece of shit whore.
> The gachikoi left in June when she revealed on her roommate account that she had been lying about being a lonely virgin the entire time. The constant apex streams were a lead up to this, but it was her admitting she had manipulated her fans that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

>> No.14855044

>>14847126
Based

>> No.14855114

Finana has a boyfriend so she was already cucking everyone anyway, now he will be a cuck also.

>> No.14855124

>>14848141
fuck off, cuckold

>> No.14855132

>>14851298
Based

>> No.14855180

>>14854420
>Those Redditor Hololive fans that watch Trash Taste ARE representative of over a million of Hololive fans and you have to sit and cope with that you massive faggot.
based oilers keeping you cucks in your place

>> No.14855188

>>14854420
>evading the part about Kson
I mentioned Coco in my previous post and how she changed after leaving. She lost a ton of gachikoi when she did that and her viewer numbers have recently plummeted. She still has a ton of superchats, which is great, but nowhere near the number of members she used to have. The same is true for Fubuki. Her recent explosion in popularity due to the Magicarp streams is wonderful to see, but she used to have these kinds of numbers before she started collabing with the holostars all the time. And no, she didn't always do that. Last year, when cover made a public announcement saying that collabs between holostars and hololive would now be up to the individual streamer, it was seen a huge change to their policy which previously was to forbid it. So I don't see how that helps your argument in any way.

>a million trash taste fans are representative of all 20 million+ hololive fans.
What tranny planet are you from where you think this is real? Go the fuck back, you disgusting shell of a human. You will never be welcome here and will never influence Hololive's policies in any meaningful way. I will continue to enjoy the chuubas who I'm convinced are single and you will continue to seethe and dilate with the rest of your kind on twtitter and discord.

>> No.14855193

>>14853947
based based based, no meds needed

>> No.14855194

>>14851298
>>14855132
I don't get it.

>> No.14855246

>>14854946
>trusting Reddi/vt/ to not making such types of asinine posts
Anon...

>> No.14855260

>>14853947
Based

>> No.14855290

>>14855188
> she lost a ton of gachikoi
literally top 1 superchat earner

>> No.14855323

>>14855188
> lost gachikois
stop talking out of your ass zhang

>> No.14855374

>>14849597
Idk man. Hololive people will bring up how they get big numbers while loosely sticking to the idol culture stuff whole Niji people show an agency can be successful without the gender restrictions.

Looking at NijiEN, the interactions with guys are interesting enough lol. The ID/JP/Twitch guys seem cool and know how to act.

People are just weird man. I say let the girls do what makes em happy.

>> No.14855391

>>14852194
Based, Dope, Lit.

>> No.14855441

>>14855290
The achievement she got while in Hololive? Do people think she would've gotten that if she was Kson for her entire career and never became Coco?

>> No.14855483

>>14855323
She was my oshi. Fuck you cuck.

>> No.14855548

>>14851298
Based

>> No.14855553

>>14855188
I think you're talking out of your ass. Is there even a way to measure the amount of people joining and leaving measurememts? In either case Coco's viewership drop has been occurring even prior to her collabing with men and there's nothing suggesting the two factors are intrinsically linked. The very fact that a woman who's collabed a shit ton with men can get those numbers for her magikarp streams shows that for the wider audience male-collabs are a non-issue. And I'm not just talking about Holostars, I'm talking about Nijisanji as well. One of Fubuki's most popular videos is her collab with Maimoto from two years back. The most popular video on Matsuri's channel is her collab with Rikka. Her Nijimale collabs were also immensely popular, though she recently privated them in what I assume to be an image change. If the majority of the VTuber audience was unicorns this simply would not be the case. Hell Matsuri would have never been popular in the first place.
>The second most popular Hololive member does not represent what Hololive fans actually like
Lol, rumao even. Let's not act like the Hololive members themselves don't love her and that Fandeads don't love their collaborations. Cope, seethe and dilate.

>> No.14855594

>>14853947
based and /thread

>> No.14855602

>>14855553
>measurememts
*memberships. Fuck you for making me write so much.

>> No.14855631

>>14855374
unless NOT interacting with men makes them happy, in which case they need to stop pandering to unicorns and grow up

>> No.14855666

So holobronies are not only annoying shits but also are all incels. Not surprising.

>> No.14855683

>>14855666
Stfu satan.

>> No.14855703

>>14855553
Male collabs aren't all alike.
For example, a holo girl doing a professional collab with a holostar is fine. Extremely few people would mind that.
But randomly collabing with some guy outside? Flirting even? Already getting into the territory where a lot more people will not be up for that.

>> No.14855739

>>14855631
People are acting like people are telling VTubers to stop pandering to unicorns when the exact opposite is happening. People are telling VTubers to adopt a business model popularized in 2020 and implying anyone who disagrees with that is a subverter like that makes a single lick of sense.

>> No.14855764

>>14855666
Idolchads run this board, chud

>> No.14855770

why can't parts of hololive be CGDCT, why do you people NEED to shit everything up just to stick it to the few unironic incels? aren't you already catered to enough

>> No.14855771

>>14853947
don't take meds, what you said is very true. this board, being just another subreddit, will give you the usual NPC response

>> No.14855779

>>14855703
>Extremely few people would mind that
Unicorns would mind that. That is who we are talking about.

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>>14853005

>> No.14855876

>>14855739
you people are subverters, you've been shitting up every fandom you can for years and anyone who isnt one of you can sniff you out easily nowadays

>> No.14855885

>>14855779
There are various degrees I guess.
There are people who only mind if they actively flirt on stream or publically get a bf <- this is me
There are people who mind any interaction with any man at all
There are people who even mind them having had anything to do with men in the past before they even were a vtuber

>> No.14855892

>>14853204
That's the point, anon.

>> No.14855914

>>14854566
I'm not making shit up. The June tweet is still up on her roommate account as well as all the responses to it by matsuri fans. I specifically said that Apex contributed to why they left, but it wasn't the only reason. Even with apex, her gachikoi didn't leave right away because she was still doing member's only zatsudon at the time. In fact, some were still around even after June, but then the Hand thing happened and afterwards almost all support evaporated except from schizos like Lyger.

>> No.14855924

>>14855876
You're a moron. Hololive had it's big popularity boost in 2020. VTubers were popular for years beforehand. Now people want every VTuber to act like Hololive members. Hololive fans are the fucking subverters.

>> No.14855937

>>14855847
Only a woman would manage to write so much and yet say so little.

>> No.14855947

>>14853005
>4 kings
where are they now?
>Nijisanji
why are people leaving them for hololive?

>> No.14855953

>>14855553
mori's dead subs (kek) represent nothing, she is definitely not the 2nd most popular, just the 2nd with most tourist subs. Marine is way more popular and important than her

>> No.14855976

>>14855885
Then you're not a unicorn. You're just an idolfag. Unicorns don't want any male collaborations whatsoever.

>> No.14855982

>>14855924
>Now people want every VTuber to act like Hololive members.
Where?
If anything people who like hololive just want you to leave them the fuck alone and stop trying to pull them into your swamp of twitch whores. They WANT to be isolated.

>> No.14856032

>>14855947
The old VTuber fans are being replaced with new VTuber fans with new ideals and values. That is what subversion is.

>> No.14856079

>>14855982
>Where
In this entire fucking thread you moron. This is a thread with a fucking Nijisanji OP and everyone's agreeing with it because they believe Nijisanji should take on the Hololive business model.

>> No.14856157

>>14855953
Cope.

>> No.14856179

>>14856079
I doubt Finana has ever had gachis to begin with. She was the same way from the beginning.

It's worse for people who are into, say, Rosemi.

>> No.14856263

>>14856179
Rosebuds have been in shambles since the new guys were announced, you'd think Rosemi of all niji's would've been smart enough to not openly flirt on twitter

>> No.14856271

>>14856179
Clearly the intent of the VTubers themselves doesn't matter to these people.

>> No.14856293

>>14853256
That's not how it works, the entertainer that happens to have a little bit of knowledge of human behaviors knows that the paypig and the poorfag are important at the same time, one will give them money and the other will rise awareness, which also brings money.
The entertainer also knows the dangers of conformism and that their audience will agree with everything so the entertainer needs to know to not follow audience "opinions" but to keep up their dopamina high making them feel especial, it can be accomplished with simple things as being authentic and passionate about it's job.

>> No.14856311

>>14847126
the fuck is std.? are you a germ?

>> No.14856413

>>14853155
where are her numbers before and after the yab?

>> No.14856511

At the very least you gotta agree it's nice if the audience knows what they are getting before they get too invested.

Imagine a vtuber spending a whole year doing zero of that and then suddenly announcing a bf out of nowhere or flirting with dudes on stream suddenly when she never streamed with any beforehand. That would suck.
If you already know from the getgo then it's on you at least.

>> No.14856643

>>14853947
KNEELING

>> No.14856670

>>14853191
>the fact remains that Hololive has greatly contributed to the notion that VTubers should not collab with men whereas it was normal beforehand
all I see are shills and shitposters on hololive threads being told to fuck off to watch nijis if they want male collabs
they don't tell people that's wrong to collab with males

>> No.14856682

>>14855553
Yes. You can see the number of membership viewers through the Youtube playlist bug. I haven't used it in the last couple of weeks, so they may have patched it, but if you don't believe me that it's a thing, check the archive. You're really DEADset on insisting the importance of Mori's subcount, when it makes up just 1.5M out of over 43 million total Hololive subs. She doesn't even have one of the highest CCVs, which tend to all be Holos that to appeal to unicorns, by the way. I don't know what to tell you, bud. By the way, I don't even hate Calli. I think her fans are sometimes shit, such as right now, but she's better than most of the NijiENs. The fact that it's still unknown whether Calli is single or not is at the very least better than knowing she is actively trying to hide it, like the majority of NijiEN.

>> No.14856705

>>14856670
Read this thread.

>> No.14856885

>Elira streaming whatever niji's play
>new male enters discord and joins stream
>Elira's voice becomes audibly higher and she starts laughing like Selen at his every word
this is the future for every nijien stream, these guys are going to take the freedom to join streams and turn it into NTR whether they intend to or not

>> No.14856924

>>14856179
>>14856263
rosebud here and can confirm i’ve been in shambles
i fucking hope she stays in her cute autistic little bubble with the girls, PLEASE

>> No.14856944

>>14855847
LOL, isn't Koopa the twitch vtuber that got caught sleeping with a fan?

>> No.14856978

>>14856157
oh yes the mighty legion of cuckdittors represent the majority.. let's completely forget about the flop that is council

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>>14854246
me every time the corporate niggers make the talent suffer and change

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I feel sorry for all of you 2 people who defend this male shit.

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>>14847321
4u
regardless for people who like cute boys doing cool things
shien exist
https://streamable.com/two7u1

>> No.14857152

>>14851298
Based

>> No.14857236

>>14857080
Don't. The people that defend collabs with males probably all have girlfriends or are women themselves which is why they don't give a shit. They aren't real fans. They don't care about their oshi collabing and hanging out with men because they don't actually love their oshi. They aren't the target demo and it infuriates them.

>> No.14857294

>>14851298
yeah sure just cherrypick

>> No.14857351

>>14857236
If you are real fan why male collabs happen?

>> No.14857354

>>14856682
I assume you're getting tired of this conversation too, seeing as you neglected to acknowledge half of my points. So I'll just leave off by saying there's not a single HoloMyth member that hasn't interacted with Holostars in some capacity and taking a quick look at Playboard, Gura still leads. And speaking of NijiENs, the most popular one does collab with men on the weekly. So I still see no reason to take your insistence that the majority of the VTuber audience is comprised of unicorns as anything more than a headcanon.

>> No.14857380

>>14855188
>but she used to have these kinds of numbers before she started collabing with the holostars
thats a fucking lie

>> No.14857443

>>14857116
Shien is such a rascal.

>> No.14857531

>>14857354
Are you really going to try and claim that holos like Gura interact with the stars at all?

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>>14857531
Why yes, I am. Let's not forget her referencing "cafeteria in my soul" either.
https://streamable.com/clsmxm

>> No.14857635

>>14856705
shit I couldn't find anybody asking for other vtubers stop collabing with males, only people who wants it being told to kill themselves by people who doesn't like it wtf

>> No.14857657

>>14857380
Okay. I admit that was a bit of an exaggeration, but only because her current numbers are massive and pass 30k for her Magikarp streams. She used to easily get 10k+ every stream from late 2019 to mid 2020. You can't argue that her viewership didn't begin to decline last year and is only recently high because of Akai na~.

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14857670

If you don't like male collab drop male collabing vtuber
If you don't mind male collab keep watching male collabing vtuber
Why you hef to be mad?

>> No.14857739

>>14857629
Anon please. That's the most pathetic """""interactions""""" I've ever seen.

>> No.14857740

>>14857635
Read better.
>>14849124

>> No.14857790

>>14857739
>I-it doesn't count
Cope.

>> No.14857836

>>14857790
Keep reaching I guess.

>> No.14857850

>>14857351
English please.

>>14857629
You have to be joking. A passing reference to a viral clip is not a collab, smoothbrain. Notice she even used the word "seem" in your pic. She doesn't even know for sure, lol.

>> No.14857894

>>14856682
>The fact that it's still unknown whether Calli is single or not is at the very least better than knowing she is actively trying to hide it, like the majority of NijiEN.
>better than knowing she is actively trying to hide it
Fauna...Mumei...

>> No.14857912

>>14857740
where does it says that vtubers shouldn't collab with males?

>> No.14857984

>>14857850
>Notice she even used the word "seem" in your pic
Retardchama... that was Izuru talking. At least be a clipnigger instead of an image viewer. Nobody claimed it was a collab, but there's a very good reason Holos that actually pander to unicorns avoid mentioning males apart from Yagoo on stream whatsoever. Rushia went into full panic mode when the image of a Holostar appeared on screen. Gura references them freely and compliments them. See the difference?

>> No.14857993

>>14857354
>1 vtuber is interacting with males weekly and she's fine
did you also know that one of holo's roommate halved her ccv by mentioning her boyfriend on stream? using my example suddenly unicorns are the majority now. these situations are in no way proof for anything.

>> No.14858035

>>14857993
>did you also know that one of holo's roommate halved her ccv by mentioning her boyfriend on stream
Really? Then you'll be so kind as to tell me who that was. I don't remember such an incident occurring.

>> No.14858082

>>14857984
>Gura references them freely and compliments them
You keep trying I see. It was literally an official hololive panel at an anime convention where they (as a group) were asked about the stars
What do you want her to say? "Sorry I don't know who they are because they are men"?
Don't be retarded now.

>> No.14858106

>>14847321
it's worse than that; they aren't cute.

>> No.14858122

>>14857236
>Fell in love with a streamer.
But why?

>> No.14858144

>>14858082
Gura didn't have to say anything. The other Holos didn't. She wasn't held at gunpoint to reference Roberu on stream either. She did so of her own free will. And nobody cared. Funny how that works.

>> No.14858163

>>14857894
Don't you worry anon. Even though Fauna does have a cute voice, I think those two as well as OIlie are piles of shit.

>> No.14858169

>>14857850
You will never be English

>> No.14858185

>>14858144
You would have to be beyond autistic to care about that.
Call me when she actually collabs with one of them.

>> No.14858226

>>14858185
Yes, unicorns are beyond autistic. That is the precisely the matter at hand.

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>>14857629
Fucking retard that's not the same whatsoever
Seethe, you STILL have nothing on Gura

>> No.14858274

>>14858226
I thought the topic was Finana being a gutter whore who talks about getting DP'd by cocks.

>> No.14858318

>>14858267
Clearly the only one seething here is (you). Don't worry, I'm sure Izuru will allow you to have sloppy seconds, he's a nice boy.

>> No.14858325

Feels good being a sankisei chad where my oshi doesn't want to upset jer fans and already decided to not collab with males years ago

>> No.14858372

>>14857912
A post that implicitly states that people shouldn't accept male collabs is a post that implicitly states that VTubers shouldn't collab with men.

>> No.14858385

>>14858325
That's only half based.
Fully based is when they themselves don't want to do those collabs at all and don't even do it out of any exterior "I don't want to upset my fans" motives.
Like Miko for example.

>> No.14858444

>>14857984
Rushia isn't a very good example to use here. She appeals to unicorns, yes, but she goes so over the top worrying about every little thing because she's struggling mentally, not because she does GFE. She's alluded to be willing to kill herself if Rushia was ever taken away from her. She's been going through a lot, especially lately and isn't completely all there all the time.

>> No.14858518

>>14858444
Anon, you cannot convince me Rushia's shtick is 100% legitimate. Yes, I believe she is unhealthily dependent on her chat and a menhera. No, I don't believe she's actually deathly afraid of talking to men, especially after the Mafumafu incident.

>> No.14858575

>>14858444
If only every holo was as dedicated to her craft as Rushia.
I'm membered to her and it's wonderful. She really, really unironically loves her fandead.
She has become Rushia. Rushia has overtaken her.

>> No.14858595

>>14857984
I can probably count on one hand the number of times Gura has ever even mentioned one of the holostars. Why would that even matter though? Unless she's lusting after them like the NijiEN girls, why would mentioning or even watching them be a problem. Are you trolling on the Internet, anon?

>> No.14858632

>>14858595
I know Chumbuds are sensitive, but do try to read the chain of conversation before accusing others of simply bringing things up to troll.

>> No.14858639

>>14858595
He's desperate to drag her down to his niji levels now that nijiEN is burning

>> No.14858703

>>14858372
It calls people who likes it names and implies that all women have the same mindset
a pitiful post at best

>> No.14858724

>>14852325
>>14852369
>No argument because deep down, you know I'm right.

>> No.14858728

you guys keep saying the nijiENs are lusting after the new guys but literally where is this happening
i've seen the vshojos doing it and indies but not the nijiENs

>> No.14858739

>>14858035
He's talking about one of Council's members before they joined Hololive. And while it's true, the number was very small in the first place. Think going from 100 to 50 people.

>> No.14858824

>>14858728
https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu
Just scroll down and read all those tweets. She's even retweeting shipping art of her and the men.

>> No.14858853

It's not really a problem anymore with so many of vtubers to choose from. It's easy to find someone else.

>> No.14858893

>>14858169
You're right, lol. I won't ever be English because I'm American. But you'll forever be a detestable ESL cuck because you're too stupid and lazy to learn English.

>> No.14858915

>>14858724
pfft nice break retard

>> No.14858916

>>14858824
Finana literally liked and retweets every piece of art of her she finds
Just take 1 (one) screenshot of her lusting after them and post it I don't care to put myself in your shoes and pretend I understand what you define as lusting

>> No.14859101

>>14858893
You will never be English. You have no pip, you have no pip, you have no cheerio. You are a goylem mutt twisted by expensive drugs and infant surgery into a crude mockery of Albion’s perfection.

>> No.14859126

Some chuuba (hololive, honeystrap, etc.) are marketed off their personality and ability to be a one woman show. They don't diluted their product with men that would try to get in their pants because that's what we do.

Other chuuba, like nijisanji livers, gain popularity purely through drama and he said she said X fucked Y gossip, so they embrace male collsbs.

That's all it is.

>> No.14859213

>>14859126
You do realize a good chunk of female Nijilivers rarely do male collabs to begin with right

>> No.14859293

>>14858632
>Gura references them freely and compliments them.
The way he said this and the context in which he said it makes it seem like he's saying she does it all the time, or at least frequently enough to support his argument that she enjoys the holostars and isn't shy about mentioning them.

I'm not sure what problem you have with what I said because it's true she never mentions them.

>> No.14859311

>>14859213
Shut up we're shitposting.

>> No.14859322

>>14859213
They all are forced to eventually
Even sister claire, and their numbers tank as a result

>> No.14859332

>>14859293
>or at least frequently enough to support his argument that she enjoys the holostars and isn't shy about mentioning them
Her roommate is following Izuru, she complimented Izuru on stream and she did reference Roberu, so this is objectively correct.

>> No.14859382

>>14859322
Nah Lize is still holding her own among the top Nijis. Sister Claire was never a top Niji I don't know why people on this board have this impression.

>> No.14859385

>>14859213
I know Hoshikawa, Gundou and Rindou and base my opinions on them unironically

>> No.14859489

>>14859382
When you only know a handful of members it's not like you have a choice on who to namedrop.

>> No.14859508

>>14859385
You should probably not do that

>> No.14859517

>>14859382
Top niji is like 3k views at this point though
The fat purple chink dragon is unironically their biggest chuuba right now

>> No.14859564

>>14859489
If you only know a handful of members you shouldn't be talking as if you're familiar with Nijisanji in the first place.

>> No.14859572

>>14859508
It was enough of a turnoff to make me not want to get deeper into nijisanji
Now I only watch holos, react and patra

>> No.14859605

>>14859517
Anon please stop, you don't have to keep going when the bait becomes obvious.

>> No.14859622

>>14859564
There are 80000 nijisanji members how sre you supposed to know even half?
There is only 2 good ones too, one graduated and the other is a retard.

>> No.14859642

>>14859572
That's like watching clips of Matsuri talking about piss and Fubuki acting lovey dovey with Oga and Kiara being Kiara and deciding that represents all of Hololive

>> No.14859647

>>14859332
Again, one hand. I still don't really understand what the point is? She never talks about them. She never tweets about them. I don't care if she watches them or is a fan. They're talented singers. What would bother me would be if she is constantly fawning over them or fucking one of them, which is so ridiculous a thought, that it's not even worth entertaining.

>> No.14859710

>>14859622
If you don't know half you shouldn't talk as if you know half. Simple as.

>> No.14859750

>>14859710
I do know half though, it'd a completely full of crushed dreams.

>> No.14859767

>>14859750
Can you say that again in English please

>> No.14859780

>>14859642
Well no because that would be watching some of the most unpopular holos. No, Fubuki's current magikarp craze doesn't count. Outside of that she's at a couple k viewers at most. Matsuri is absolutely irrelevant nowadays and Kiara cmon

Meanwhile the ones I mentioned ARE actually at the front of nijisanji. For their women, anyway.

>> No.14859816

>>14859767
I do know half though, it's a company full of crushed dreams.

>> No.14859853

>>14859572
Don't let nijiEN color your perception.
There are quite a few good female Niji streamers. And I'm saying that as an almost exlusive Hololive fan. Hayama Marin is always a joy to watch and has never done any of the shit the NijiEN girls do. Her silent hill playthroughs are a lot of fun and her voice and mannerisms are really cute.

>> No.14859933

>>14859853
She collabs with m*les too retard, she's even in a group with one. You can try and run but when you watch a niji you'll be watching a m*le sooner or later.

>> No.14859935
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14859935

>>14859780
>Meanwhile the ones I mentioned ARE actually at the front of nijisanji. For their women, anyway
Wrong on both counts

>> No.14860008

>>14859933
You can just not watch the male collabs. It's really that simple.

>> No.14860009

>>14859935
>Lulu
Out of date graphic
Discarded

>> No.14860059

>>14860008
And you've missed the entire point of the thread.

>> No.14860197

>>14859935
x(y)
x = average CCV?
y = ?

>> No.14860238

>>14860009
Means fuck all when Hoshikawa and Gundou have been under the company for years, their views aren't growing anon, I don't care what /vt/ told you Lize and Mito will always be the female faces of the company

>> No.14860288

>>14859935
Why does the ultra cunny with the swimsuit have so few viewers

>> No.14860292

>>14860238
Mito is ugly and collab with males, lize too
I don't get what you're arguing

>> No.14860382

>>14860292
Gundou and Hoshikawa talk about swallowing cum on stream I don't think Nijis that simply do the occasional male collab can be compared to them especially when you were claiming the former members were the face of the company when Gundou is widely hated by fans and antis alike

>> No.14860431

>>14860288
She barely streams

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14860542

>>14859382
>nah [x] niji was never a top niji so doesn't count
>nah [x] niji is retarde so doesn't count
patterns

>> No.14860591

>>14858518
Mafumafu incident?

>> No.14860609

>>14860542
Anon, the claim that Sister Claire's numbers tanked as a result of her collabing with men would have required for her to have had decent numbers in the first place. It's simply an objectively false statement.

>> No.14860706

>>14860197
# of streams in the month

>> No.14860723

>>14860609
No niji has decent numbers anymore

>> No.14860990

>>14860609
basically if you get some example from the nijis side it will not count because [y]

>> No.14861049

>>14860990
You can't just tell lies and claim that it's an excuse when said lie is called out. That's not how anything works.

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14861147

Nijifags should focus on moving to tiktok livestream platform

>> No.14861440

>>14861147
I mean, it'd probably work. Get the most generic pretty boy design and start making thirst trap videos. you don't even need to speak in them so it doesn't even matter what they sound like!

>> No.14861513

>>14861440
also copyright music ok lmao

>> No.14861519

>>14847126
14 on the based scale

>> No.14861616

>>14852579
Stay mad nerd

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