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>> No.14778521

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

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Its over…

>> No.14778587

>>14778557
Kek Pekora really can't catch a break huh
I feel like she is actually the most miserable Holo at times, as if the entire world are going against her

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>>14778587

>> No.14778637

>>14778587
Kek those nijimales would be lucky to get 10% of pekora ccv

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>> No.14778691

>I'll give them a month after debut before I start making calls on performance.
Faggot. I'm gonna extrapolate their debut buff and act like that will be their base line and when it wears off I will start using inspect element to manipulate numbers and screenshot them to post in the catalogue. I wonder how do I convince NijiEN fans that 2k for a second stream is good.

>> No.14778703

>>14778637
But why are nijimales more popular than Holo males? What the fuck is their secret?

>> No.14778725

>>14778703
Some niji males are more popular than Holo males
Nijisanji is not a group consisting solely of Kuzuha and Kanae

>> No.14778738

>>14778703
Cover hamstrung the stars by segregating them from the girls until it was too late and the damage was done.

>> No.14778754

>>14778725
Ye but generally they are doing better than Holostar for some reasons. And not like Holostar is that lackluster

>> No.14778758

Anykara's brand motto is "NEXT ENTERTAINMENT FACTORY". Albeit cringe, but what exactly does it imply? For me, it means they provides new types of entertainment. Is this exactly true or not? And what was Cover's Motto again?

>> No.14778781

>>14778703
Being better streamers. NijiMales don't work because of demographic reasons or anything like that, they work because they're entertaining to their audience. If the NijiEN guys are talented in entertaining audiences they will grow. If they aren't then they won't. Remember, these streamers aren't competing for /vt/ head space against over vtubers, they're competing with netflix.

>> No.14778785

>>14778703
Because hololive is an idol company and fans of hololive have subzero interest in holostars, whereas nijimales have a decent overlap with niji female fanbases.

>> No.14778786

>>14778758
>ENTERTAINMENT FACTORY
Sound soulless, those 2 words contradict each other

>> No.14778790

>>14778666
Kronii seems to be getting back into the groove of things now.

>> No.14778805

>>14778758
>ENTERTAINMENT FACTORY
When's wave lads? Before Easter?

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>>14778703
Bro a fucking Indog mogs 70% of holostars in viewers. This wave won't even have to lift a finger to mog them too.

>> No.14778809

>>14778738
If that was all it takes to create the most successful female vtubers in the world I'd say that their sacrifice is not in vain.

>> No.14778815

>>14778754
Holostar's growth was fucked because they were up against Nijisanji at the height of their popularity. Even more so, there was a graduation last year. Even more more so, believing they could incline by not debuting an EN stars gen. It was a lost game for stars so I wouldn't put my bets on them anymore. Astel is the only one worth the time in the group but he doesn't stream as much.

>> No.14778822

>>14778808
Meant to quote: >>14778725

>> No.14778826

>>14778809
It's not really fair seeing as the girls continue to collab with non-holo males

>> No.14778843

Holostars was a mistake and cover never even tried. With any luck we won't see another gen and the existent talents will be slowly retired too.

>> No.14778847

>>14778758
"Next Entertainment Factory" sounds horrible honestly especially when their the company that pumps out the most Vtubers in a short amount of time relative to their competition.

>> No.14778852

>>14778703
Niji males also debuted first and had solidified a fanbase that Holostars was never going to crack open. It's like the Holo En and Niji En with the girls. Nijisanji debuted Lazulight with 3 girls, just as Holostars debuted with 3 guys to try to break into that segment of the market.

>> No.14778856

https://twitter.com/gsc_goodsmile/status/1471676927886901250?
https://twitter.com/gsc_goodsmile/status/1471676927886901250?
https://twitter.com/gsc_goodsmile/status/1471676927886901250?
Flare's got a figma

>> No.14778888

>>14778808
And she also mogs a good 10 nijis, what's your point?

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>>14778557
got me curious. how do we view edengumi and council's?

>> No.14778915

>>14778815
I'm at least glad that Holostars as a gig helps out the stars themselves enough revenue wise. Aururan was practically hobo squating in a homeless shelter before joining.

>> No.14778922

>>14778691
>Purposely faking numbers when there will be real numbers of be had for bait
You're a failure!

>> No.14778932

>>14778888
I meant Bon, not Anya. Bon is a NijiID male who is above several holostars in viewers.

>> No.14778953

You are a new hire by cover and are put in charge of holostars. They ask you to turn that failed project into something that can compete with nijimale numbers and you are allowed to take extreme measures if you see fit. What do you do?

>> No.14778957

>>14778826
From a holo pov there is no point of doing collabs with stars unless you want to out of charity. There is no growth potential in it, there is no exposure to an unknown audience.
They aren't even the underdog in the male vtuber scene, they are like the bottom team in the bottom league if you compare them to Nijimales. That is the sad truth and I don't really see a way that it will change, unless Nijisanji collapses. But that wont happen, Riku might be a bit dense, but not that dense.

>> No.14778982

>>14778856
>Old design
oof, obviously they couldn't have anticipated it, but still.

>> No.14779027

There is a lot of female vtubers showing their thirst for new NijiEN males right now, but what about their audience?

>> No.14779049

>>14778953
Concerts. Like the one they are having in a couple of weeks

>> No.14779052

>>14778856
>>14778982
Flare hasn't retweeted.

>> No.14779057

>>14778666
Damn how many sponsored streams did Nexon pay for?

>> No.14779065

>>14779027
Part of it won't mind and will check them out, but part of it is no doubt cringing extremely hard. They aren't designed to compete with females in either case, they are clearly an attempt at capturing a new market.

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>>14778703
because this is the avg nip holofag. idolfags

>> No.14779129

>>14778953
Graduate everybody expect Astel and Rikka

>> No.14779131

>>14779106
>nip

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>>14779106

>> No.14779158

>>14779106
What an absolute chad, he could crush a dozen nijicucks and not even notice them

>> No.14779169

>>14779129
You're retarded

>> No.14779208
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>>14779106
There are exception

>> No.14779232

>Hololive
>They are live
>Holostars
>They aren't stars
It's poor branding.

>> No.14779239

>>14779208
Absolute chad.

>> No.14779308

>>14778666
Is Kronii finally getting her shit together?

>> No.14779334

>>14778587
That's how protagonist are shape anon.

>> No.14779370

>>14778808
I don't watch ID, but why is Anya so fucking low?

>> No.14779398

>>14779239
He fucking resemble Hideo Kojima and I cannot unsee it

>> No.14779432

>>14779370
Similar reasons to Petra, she's anti coomer and plays shit games because of a poor rig at the start.

>> No.14779449

>>14779370
Weird games at weird times, doesn't play minecraft(the big "story" game in hololive), hated and hid her models primary assets.

>> No.14779471

>>14779370
She is YWNBJ incarnate, she disgust by EOPs and indogs

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>>14779106
>Average JP nousagi
Meanwhile the average JP Subaru fan

>> No.14779581

Btw Pekora take a step back today to do some Marika training
The tournament is coming up

>> No.14779600

>>14779581
I am guessing around 25k

>> No.14779689

>>14779052
Shit, you are right. And she has tweeted so it's not that she is afk.

>> No.14779712

>https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000004.000086759.html
Ina behind the scenes

>> No.14779773

Christ the current #1 stream for today is low, 23.6k from pewter king.

>> No.14779812

>>14778557
what site is this?

>> No.14779842

HoloX Among Us coming up at JP primetime!!
number for each POV would be La+ > Iroha = Chloe > Koyori > Lui (without impostor buff)

>> No.14779892

>>14779842
this is amogus, EOPs might watch Chloe
Orca > Lapras > Jakin jakin > Coyote > Hag

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Right before Pekora outfit

>> No.14779910

>>14779897
Funneling

>> No.14779939

>>14779897
Only Choco and Mel, or are there more guests?
Anyway, if it's a live it's a decent funnel event.

>> No.14779969

>>14779897
>will the history repeat itself?
Oh no no kuzuhasisters

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>>14779939

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>>14779973
Outstanding!

>> No.14779997

>Tonight Moona will be above Sana in both median peak and average peak
Feels fucking weird seeing an ID above an EN
https://youtu.be/DMjIHGXxJNs

>> No.14780144

>>14779897
>>14779973
TAKE MY ENERY MERUSAMA!

>> No.14780227

Should Youtube consider giving Holo and Niji immediate monetisation

>> No.14780245

>>14780227
why?

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>>14779997

>> No.14780272

>>14780245
To profit off the hype before the dropoff

>> No.14780288

Sleeping on it for a bit, wave 4 is going to be the make or break moment for NijiEn as a branch. This is Anykara going all in.
If they win
>They basically secure a new audience that will be exclusive to only them for 6 months at minimum since Cover won't be able to just shit out a holostarsEN branch
>Even if StarsEn becomes a thing, they won't be able to compete on even ground since they won't be able to interact freely with the girls compared to their Niji counterparts.
>Assuming that they are at least council level popular and at least one of them is bilingual, proper box pushing of NijiJPs main stars can finally start in the west
If they lose
>They basically just diluted their baseline 7-8k audience even more and I wouldn't be surprised if Ethyria starts hovering around 700-400 CCV again.
>Wave 4 failing would be a sign that their are more people interested in exclusively female vtuber groups, which will likely lead to a halt of male vtuber recruitment on the EN side.
>High chance that the girls who are going to have to shill the guys will lose some gachis.
It's feast or famine. There is no in between. Their success or failure is going to directly lead to NijiEns success or failure as a whole as well

>> No.14780287

>>14780227
They probably did
Noripro's record was 3 days, with much, much smaller numbers
Management probably just decide to unlock it after a week for Holo
HoloID enabled streamlabs day 1 though, kek

>> No.14780293

>>14780227
Even if they had 10 times the numbers youtube won't. They'd rather vtubers didn't exist.

>> No.14780314

>>14780288
Niji is no longer content being the Pepsi of the vtuber world; this is their last stand

>> No.14780330

>>14780288
lel so dramatic mate but a good analysis i guess

>> No.14780334

>>14780272
I sincerely doubt the hype money brought in by popular chuubas is more than a droplet of piss in Google's monetary bucket

>> No.14780358

>>14780288
>There is no in between.
I'm pushing back, I think it will 100% be in between. They'll get meh CCV but good SCs and increase the market cap of NijiEN. I think there will be more disparity between themselves than disparity between them and LazuLight/Obsydia/Ethyria. Anycolor needs to work on the merch game.

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>>14779997
>Tonight Moona will be above Sana in both median peak and average peak
kek, no she won't.
As long as she goes above 2977 her median will be 2977, Sana's current median is 2991.
>and Selen's, 2845

On the very top there is also a brutal knife fight between Pekora (33477) and Fubuki (33622).

Kuzuha hanging tight to the Top 10 (but only because of the "Ayame rule" right now)

>> No.14780399

>>14779106
That's not a nip, they'll kill you if you get fat like that. I haven't seen any fat japanese guys/gals on Japan since ages. They were probably taken by some secret police or shit.

>> No.14780412

>>14780334
This. Google's aims are on the order of socially conditioning entire continents into becoming their own pseudo government. I don't think extra money below 8 figures interests them at all.

>> No.14780478

>>14780358
I guess we'll need to define what success for them actually looks like.
>At least 200k within 3 months. Basically before Wave 5 hits
>Increasing the current baseline of NijiEn from 7-8 to 12-13k
>At least one of them being around Selen's average CCV.
Are those metrics reasonable?

>> No.14780502

>>14780314
Damn it, holo's got something to compete in that timezone, right?

>> No.14780520

>>14780288
On one hand I do want EN Male Vtubers to finally get the jumpstart it needs to produce genuinely entertaining guy chuubas that I can understand.
But on the other hand Nijisanji and Anykara have not been filling me with much confidence that they will succeed. I don't know if it's because it's been the year of corporate fuckups (except for Hololive) or specifically Anykara/Nijisanji's track record of absolutely boning their own foreign branches/subsidiaries but I genuinely just feel like things probably aren't going to workout.

>> No.14780534

>>14780502
If Omega has balls he'll step on the debut with a full branch overlap.

>> No.14780577

>>14780534
But does Omega have balls

>> No.14780647

Wave 4 subs culled yet?

>> No.14780652

>>14780288
>council numbers
They'll be lucky enough if they could break Selen's numbers because I don't see them getting council numbers. The reason? Male vtubers doesn't take off as hard as female ones. The ones that gave Myth the biggest buffs of their life because of how amazing the JP counter part was both in entertainment and in clips. Just think for a second, there are only three popular male vtubers in the country with the largest concentration of vtuber fans in the world. Why would you think NijiEN males would be any better than them even more so when there's better and more successful male streamers out there? The only way I could think of them is milking out yumejos, but even then, they can't compete with Gura, Kronii and Mori on a good day let alone Chloe.

>> No.14780690

>>14780478
I am really thinking there is a possibility is might just be one or two strong performers with a bunch of midgets.

>failure
all under 800ccv and petra tier scs
>expectations
wave median around 1500 with a 3k top performer with decent SCs
>success
On par with holox

>> No.14780698

>>14780647
what's there to cull?

>> No.14780728

>>14780478
You'd be stupid to think that any one of us would be able to remember this in 3 months. Just use the debut week as comparisons, and 12 hours intervals to compare the sub rate. For post-debut streams, if they're doing donation readings, then it's a lost cause. Post-debut talk is okay, games or karaoke. CCV of those can be measure and if they can't get more than 5k, then it's hopeless.

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>>14780690
>On par with holox

>> No.14780737

>>14780690
>success
How about this instead, if they managed to fuck the NijiEN girls' metrics up then I'll consider them a success.

>> No.14780742

>>14780698
Sony's VERSEn got culled and they have less subs than this, it'll happen
Unless Susan changed the algorithm sometime between holox debut and now

>> No.14780758

>>14780288
SC wise, they'll definitely expand it like Ethyria did. Won't be surprised if NijiEN beats HoloEN in monthly total SC especially if wave 4 gets those JP fujos

>> No.14780757

>>14780652
The 3rd bullet point was more of a conditional thing since I think that's the only way that proper box pushing can start for both branches. NijiEn being council tier popular means that JP fans and talents can no longer look at them as a side branch. It also means that NijiEn becomes a more effective pipeline to shill the main branch as well.

>> No.14780763

>>14780690
>On par with holox
That is never gonna happen, certainly not on debut. Maybe if one of them can get on Dreamsmp they could eventually surpass X, but that's pretty much the only way.

>> No.14780770

A shame today's gold is gonna be given to Nijisanji, just because FBK started her stream early. Come on daily chart anon, just don't count it.

>> No.14780785

>>14780502
it will be a 5k debut

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>>14780690
>On par with holox

>> No.14780817

>>14780770
She already got gold for it yesterday

>> No.14780847

>>14780373
Moona and Ollie has better average CCV than Sana? What the fuck? Can Sana even be saved anymore?

>> No.14780856

>>14780817
It was already gold with Korone. FBK's stream should've counted towards today. That way, it could stand a chance against haruka 3D

>> No.14780864

>>14780690
>On par with holox
Wtf are you smoking my dude

>> No.14780896

>>14780690
>on par with holox
absolutely dreaming
Unless one of them proves to be a big surprise on debut, Vox will likely come away with a sizeable sub lead; success for influencing a wider acceptance of male chuubas would mean him catching up with Selen/Elira/Finana in a reasonably quick timespan

>> No.14780903

>>14780856
Well, she shouldn’t have started it 23:57 then

>> No.14780925

>>14780729
>>14780763
>>14780803
>>14780864
>>14780896
Obviously it's a joke, HoloX's success is not gonna happen again with a 2nd banana branch. If they get 10% of what HoloX get they'd be success.

Success to me is if more than 1 talent can beat Bae in CCV and they are mostly as good as Pomu in SCs.

>> No.14780943

>>14780690
This made me smile.

>> No.14780949

>>14780690
Gr8 b8 m8, honestly had me until that last bit. Wish the bait numbers was of at least this quality instead of the absolute bottom tier trash we get most of the time.

>> No.14781027

>Dude look at these numbers!? No way Gen 5 will ever be topped, they mogged selejo into oblivion.
>HoloMyth comes in and changes everything
>Dude look at these numbers!? No way HoloX will ever be topped, they mogged Edengumi into oblivion.
>Luxiem comes in an ???
Patterns patterns. What could they mean?
Admit it, it'd be quite something if these lads beat HoloX.

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10 hours update
125k trailer

ethyria in comparison

12hr
>Reimu: 10.4K
>Nina: 10.7k
>Millie: 10.9k
>Enna: 10.2k
>Trailer: 96k

>> No.14781076

>>14780399
>They were probably taken by some secret police or shit.
Nah they just take up sumo

>> No.14781115

>>14781074
Subs slow than i expected. I estimated at least 1k/hr. DOA

>> No.14781120

>>14781074
This is impressive when consider there are ads this time.
>sub numbers
We already know twitter interactions do not convert to sub numbers. There are more tourists but less people who will automatically sub someone for the nijisanji name.

>> No.14781122

>HoloMyth is Nijisanji
Naruhodo

>> No.14781147

>>14781120
Yeah, the niji fem nips inflating the twitter engagement hence they appear big there.

>> No.14781153

>>14781027
>skipping myth and lazulight
wow enfaggot

>> No.14781180

They debut on the 20th(JST)?
Bold perdition: This will be NijiENs first medal(s). Nothing is happening on the 20th and it isn't like Hololive can just shit out 3 40k+ streams a day after a big event.

>> No.14781198

>>14781074
>More exposure
>Less converts
Ouch

>> No.14781222

>>14781074
SUSAN ITS TIME TO BRING THEM DOWN TO 2K SUBS

>> No.14781245

>>14781153
Yes. When looking for patterns don't bring up examples that counter it or else you will look dumb for proposing it.

>> No.14781265

>>14780288
Western fans just don't really give a shit about male vtubers. They have hundreds of solid streamers that fit every little niche they need, and there's only so much pull for an anime guy to be doing his thing against someone like Northernlion.
Of course, if NL debuts as a vtuber, all bets are off the table.

>> No.14781275

13k watching Mio's tarot bullshit

>> No.14781369

>>14780288
Why would anyone watch a unfunny male english vtuber
Men wont watch them
Women might not like their design or wanna watch apex shit
Their last wave they already have multiple 3 views, theres several reasons to be pessimistic and I feel bad that the gen 1 girls are forced to shove this shit down everyones throats to try and salavage what will be dissatisfaction and disappointment

>> No.14781403

>The only Holo who scheduled a stream on 20JST is fucking Baelz
What the fuck
Could she finally get a good numbers solo?
>Pokemon

>> No.14781428

>playboard
>/vt/
I bet Reimu lurks here in the # thread

>> No.14781476

>>14781369
>last wave they already have multiple 3 views
that's true but their market is saturated unlike EN. Remember Edengumi still gets good SC

>> No.14781479

>>14781428
Forgot the pic?

>> No.14781512

>>14781403
Are her gachikoi awake? The value in Bae streaming is keeping that part of her fanbase engaged.
>>14781428
She'd know better than to use playboard then.

>> No.14781518

>NijiEn males will beat council
Lmao this thread really has a retard perception of council numbers. They're disappointing compared to Myth's early numbers. If they were split from holoen, they'd be nr 2 EN vtubing agency after Myth. Come to your senses

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WTF

>> No.14781557

People talk about male english vtubing as some untapped market
Theres no such thing
The market for it is on already established youtubers and twitch streamers and if they choose to use a vtuber avatar they have made their own market now
There is no potential to western male vtubing as a rising thing with new people, only already established men with a sufficient audience of people can do something with it imo
Basically what im saying is the west will never have its own Kuzuha

>> No.14781584

>>14781543
She has to take down and edit the VOD because she didn't mute the ending music which could get her DMCA'd.

>> No.14781586

>>14781518
>If they were split from holoen
They won't get the number they're getting rn retardo anon chama

>> No.14781591

>>14781180
You're crazy if you think that 12~20k will get a medal

>> No.14781603

>>14781543
Pajeets' code, please understand

>> No.14781618

>>14781557
Let me put it into perspective :takahata101 I'd an established name with a pretty big fanbase
He decided to become a chuuba
You ever heard of him posted in these thread rankings? Exactly

>> No.14781626

>>14780288
>get council number
how's that even possible? not even selen could reach that

>> No.14781627

>>14781275
Funny how Tarot is a buff but horoscope is a debuff.

>> No.14781654

>>14781626
If Sana was all of Council of course.

>> No.14781661

>>14781586
Retardo that wasn't the point at all. They're nr 2 after Myth in views and popularity even if we accounted for vshojo and nijien,is that easier to grasp?

>> No.14781674

>>14781518
>If they were split from holoen, they'd be nr 2 EN vtubing agency after Myth. Come to your senses
How does Council compares to Vshoji?

>> No.14781677
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14781677

>>14781479
she's one of you right?!

>> No.14781713

>>14781627
Japs love tarot cards because they believe in the concept of luck based on your birthday and other mysticism nonsense

>> No.14781730

>>14781518
to be fair, Myth has exceedingly high spec members. even Kiara, the runt of their gen, has shown arguably good results at taking the role of senpai/mentor for council.

>> No.14781731

>>14781677
did she delete the VOD? what the fuck now I feel bad shitting on her once

>> No.14781732

people acting like manjisanji EN will even take a whiff at council's number when Selen barely keeps up with Sana and sub growth being slower than even Ethyria...

>> No.14781737

>>14781584
I'm pretty sure that you can do that without deleting the video and uploading it again.

>> No.14781774

>>14781677
that can't be good for her mental health

>> No.14781777

>>14781654
Sana is still above Selen, not by a lot but still.

>> No.14781779

>>14781591
I don't think 12k-20k will medal. I think 35k medal.

>>14781518
numberrot is an epidemic that has been loosening it's grip recently. Right now people consider everything un 10k but above 2k to be the same.

>> No.14781811

>>14781627
>Funny how Tarot is a buff but horoscope is a debuff.
It's not hard to understand.

Sana doing her western Zodiac in front of an audience of easterns used to chinese Zodiac is as dumb as having an American Football show targeted at an european soccer watching audience.

>> No.14781813

>>14781677
i refuse to believe this is real

>> No.14781831

>Reimu ego searches on vt
My sweet Colombian flower, why would you do this to yourself

>> No.14781850

>>14781677
goddamn if she entered /#/ during her debut week.. Oh no

>> No.14781853

>>14781779
>I think 35k medal.
So you think that the males will double the debut numbers the last wave had?

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>>14778758
> Entertainment Factory
> churns out chuubas like an assembly line rolls out cars
it fits I guess

>> No.14781866

>>14781777
pretty funny when put to perspective desu, and this is sana just coming out of her dead dog break too, she probably could leave selen in the dust if she tried

>> No.14781869

>>14781674
Kronii->mogs the shit out of any Vshojo 1:1 when she isn't on a bender of debuff indie shit
Mumei: comparable to top of Vshojo when playing BOTW, beats then when other streams are factored in
Fauna: sits at/just below the top 3 of Vshojo
Baelz: much higher cap than anyone in Vshojo, but solo streams are at about mid-point for Vshojo (4-5k)
Sana: the runt of HoloEN, is low-tier vshojo in terms of numbers at the moment, but is probably able to be around 4kish if she stopped debuffing herself so goddamn much.
Do keep in mind though that 1:2 comparisons between Twitch and YT numbers are a bit fucky.

>> No.14781884

[Sad News]

Numbers arent real

>> No.14781886

>>14781731
I don't shit on NijiEN talent so I feel nothing. I shit on their fans for trying to tell me shit like that Nijisanji handled the Meiro situation perfectly.
>>14781774
It's fine, we aren't that schizo unless we're being raided by /jp/, discord, /hlgg/ etc

>> No.14781893

>>14781811
>Sana doing her western Zodiac in front of an audience of easterns
What?

>> No.14781897

>>14781677
>a literal nijisister numberfag
Truly a fate worse than death

>> No.14781901

>>14781813
Anon has evidence it is: >>14780895

Imagine if the "Football Manager" styled discussion in this thread is "helping" (more likely hindering) NijiEN with their talent management

>> No.14781906

>>14781627
Sana does her stuff alone, Mio does it with a partner, go figure.

>> No.14781908

>>14781886
>we aren't that schizo

>> No.14781915

>>14781884
[Sadder news]
A niji actually browses this shithole

>> No.14781917

>>14778856
is this going to become some sort of ultra SSR merch if it goes through?
or is it just gonna get cancelled?

>> No.14781918

>>14781677
Found the council schizo

>> No.14781927

>>14781737
You could, but she didn't, hence the viewcounts being as low as it is.l and chat being gone.

>> No.14781932

>>14781813
it fucking real
>>14781516

>> No.14781940

Sup Reimu, YOU'RE SHIT

>> No.14781950

>>14781853
Koyori more than doubled Nene's debut. It's not that unreasonable to think that could happen again.

>> No.14781967

If i were a vtuber talent manager id put it in the restrictions that youre banned from looking at /vt/ for your own mental health

>> No.14781988

>>14781950
NijiEN is barely Nijisanji much less Hololive

>> No.14781996

>>14781893
>What?
Check the slot she chooses for her Horoscope.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/MWJNETvFf9c
11PM Tokyo time / 9AM New York time

Smack in the middle of JST primetime, way too early for any American audience

>> No.14782013

Just you wait faggots all of you will eat your own words when this wave becomes successful and dominates the EN market and push and push NijiEN as the new face of Western vtubing.

>> No.14782027

>>14781967
>Hey, you know this website? They are always talking about you and everything you do. Don't go there. It is forbidden.

>> No.14782029

>>14782013
I think you are falseflagging but I'm going to use this to dunk anyway.

>> No.14782030

>>14782013
ffs Reimu stop visiting this board.

>> No.14782047

>>14781831
>>14781677
/asp/ has a fucking OpSec Guide right in the op, how the hell do here tubers keep making the same basic mistakes?

>> No.14782055

>>14782013
I really hope so, sick of all the EOPs flocking on my oshi's streams

>> No.14782059

>>14780288
eh, it could just be a mixed result desu.
Wave 4 might get around holostars levels of fame (700-1000 CCV), and the girls shilling them might lose out on those gachis that were still delusional enough to believe in a "pure" experience from Nijisanji.
But overall, eh. If the girls retain their core viewers, lose a few tourists and Niji as a whole get a niche fujo audience, I think Anycolor might see it as successful enough to launch a mixed branch in the next wave.

>> No.14782091

>>14781677
>a nijien numberfag
Jesus that must be suffering.
By the way, Reimu, if you're reading this, find a consistent timeslot, play buff games, and cut it out with the sc reading and watchalongs.

>> No.14782092

>>14781927
Fauna has one of the better chats, she truly is a dumbass.

>> No.14782129

>>14782092
Small indie streamer please understand

>> No.14782134

https://twitter.com/kazamairohach/status/1471794368604676101

What a shame, she was actually doing fairly decent SC numbers.

>> No.14782148

>>14781950
Wave 3 did worse than wave 2 though. Plus there was more than a year between 5 and X.

>> No.14782154

>>14781918
Imagine kek

>> No.14782158

>>14781027
I admit you are out of meds

>> No.14782160
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>>14782059
>Wave 4 might get around holostars levels of fame (700-1000 CCV)
Anon
That would have them trail the whole of NijiEN (pic related) except maybe
>Reimu
(No offense darling)

My expectation is that they handily beat Holostars IF they are to be considered successful. Even tying them would be a downgrade because it would mean they failed to match even Etyria

>> No.14782177

>>14782013
Ok reimu

>> No.14782191

>>14780478
Here's my arbitrarily made up standard for success -

10k+ debut (first EN wave had around 13-15k each)
at least 700+ CCV after two weeks.

>> No.14782200

>>14781996
I see, that doesn't explain the very low VODS views though.

>> No.14782216

Reimu can sleep comfortably knowing that in her 3 view audience a bunch of retards on 4chan pay enough attention to her to spot the blue four leaf clover on her new browser tab screen

>> No.14782225

>>14780690
>success
>On par with holox
jesas dude, consider going outside /#/ for a bit to get rid of the numberrot.

>> No.14782229

>>14782134
translate weeb.

>> No.14782232

>>14782013
Hey Reimu, which of the males did you like the most?

>> No.14782245

>>14781677
no you too reimu...
that even has pl twitch link

>> No.14782250 [DELETED] 

>>14782229
Her throat hurts so shes taking the day off and cant read spacha or sing
I think

>> No.14782263

>>14782091
Worse, she is the bottom of Nijien.

>> No.14782266

>>14781918
just in case evertytime he/she appears I will shit on Reimu

>> No.14782284

>>14781027
> mog order : Gen5 --> Holomyth --> HoloX --> (???)
the only pattern I'm seeing is Holo mogging everything else as time goes on

>> No.14782306

>>14782134
>No SC reading for collab
>No SC reading for utawaku, will be posted as image instead
>Will still provide after talk for utawaku with SC off
>SC reading for other frame stays as usual
Good enough to be honest
Numberfags will be mad though, kek

>> No.14782321

>>14782284
>Only a holo can mog another holo
such is their fate

>> No.14782340

>>14782200
>that doesn't explain the very low VODS views though.
Of course it does. She's not Gura or Kronii whose reputation is enough to carry part of the audience into being interested in her.
Whoever is not regularly watching Sana live won't know enough about her to be interested watch her VODs.

You can only coast if you have momentum, Sana has none and never had. The only reputation she has is on being the runt of her gen and branch

>> No.14782342

>>14782284
ID3 will be gods

>> No.14782344

>>14781627
Mio has a proven track record of accurate fortune telling as well.
And collabs buff her a lot.

>> No.14782352

>>14782134
She gets so many SCs it's nuts. I'm sure she will be back in good form soon.
>hurt voice
I could tell she's gonna change her voice eventually from the second I heard her. No one has that sweet and high of a natural voice.

Also there is a holox collab, I want to check what the holox market it.

>> No.14782354

>>14782306
What's the reasoning given?

>> No.14782375

>>14782306
Wait I misunderstood the tweet, no thank you image, straight up no SC reading for collabs and utawaku, but will still provide aftertalk for utawaku with SC off

>> No.14782387

>>14782354
Preserve her voice after singing so shes not sitting there an additional 2 hours

>> No.14782403

>>14781737
if you wait for it to process you can edit out stuff without affecting the VOD but if you edit it before it processes it re-uploads it so you lose the views from the stream

>> No.14782440

>>14782340
Her horoscope streams have significantly lower VODs than everything else dude, people flat out aren't interested in that.

>> No.14782443

>>14782340
You keep calling Sana this word yet she still brings in the 2nd most money of council and also puts in the top 3 most hours in HoloEN when shes not busy
Her ratios are super high, this whole shes a failure thing is really overblown because everyones comparing her to myth

>> No.14782455

>>14782387
Maybe she'll need to pull a Suisei and not kill her chords. Suisei sounds amazing after she stopped huffing helium. I want sexy Twap back but it will come.

>> No.14782554

If they had never debuted Council the way they did with the week long build up and the fucking stupid trailers that knee capped them all 150k hype subs ala susans deletebots this thead wouldn't be as cancerous

>> No.14782578

>>14781901
frankly if there's someone internet savvy browsing /#/ it could get them some valuable data and pattern matching autism that's probably better than their numbers team.

>> No.14782663

rrat has $500 SCs after 10 minutes.

>> No.14782664

>>14781901
I find that to be unlikely, considering Reimu is the nijien that has consistently gone against the advice that /#/ spouts.
Honestly I do kinda want to see a chuuba who follows /#/'s advice to a T, just so we can see how effective the stuff we talk about actually are in the field.

>> No.14782674

>>14782440
That's my initial point as well, see >>14781811

>>14782443
>yet she still brings in the 2nd most mo
The discussion is about viewership, not revenue
>Her rati-
Stopped reading here. Having a better ratio when both the numerator and denominator are smaller is a sad nijicope.

>> No.14782688
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14782688

this guy

>> No.14782708

>>14782664
Isn't that pretty much X?

>> No.14782729

>>14782708
Who's x?

>> No.14782728

>>14781901
the other known /here/ chuubas are not doing well number wise. i don't know if they learn anything useful here or it just make for unstable mental health and high risk of yab on stream.

>> No.14782749

>>14782160
I mean, they're already debuffed by default due to being
>EN
and
>male
and for a risky venture like this, I would say Anycolor would be quite satisfied if they were able to keep at least 700 viewers past their debut buff.

That would give them enough confidence to launch the male+female mixed Wave 5, which would be next step of Riku's master plan to conquer the EN chuuba sphere.

>> No.14782758

>Rushia, Flare and Noel conspicuously absent today
Recording maybe? That hole in this slot is pretty much due to their absence

>> No.14782772

>>14782663
Oh god Pekora congratulating her on stream got to waste, at least get $1k+ Bae for this achievement

>> No.14782782

>>14782728
>the other known /here/ chuubas are not doing well number wise
That's because they're dumb spergs that can't keep their power level hidden

>> No.14782810

>>14782749
>already discussing wave 5
At what point does nijien become like nijijp and breaknoff into cliques?

>> No.14782820

>>14782440
whose fortune is she telling though? her audience's? or another holomem's?

>> No.14782860

>>14782820
Western Zodiac, meaning "Virgo", "Libra", "Taurus".

If that was about someone in particular (like Mio does) but it is not and even worse: the reason she does this is because it is tied to "astro": astronomy, astrology.

>> No.14782869

>>14782728
That has less to do with any personal fault of theirs and more to do with the reputation of being associated with 4chan scaring away potential viewers. There is a reason /asp/ advises against catering to here for your primary audience, because this place is a shithole that is extremely demanding, extremely poor, and extremely polarizing.
Also consider that Mori is also /here/ and we all know how well she's doing.

>> No.14782881

>>14782729
HoloX. They've gone all in on box pushing, tight scheduling, spamming streams early, openly setthing about their sub counts getting yeeted, gachi farming on twitter, and SC reading. They are doing everything we could have ever wanted.

>> No.14782901

>>14782810
kek that last part was a small joke
but I can honestly imagine at least another 2-3 waves coming from NijiEN if this wave gets more than 700CCV.

>> No.14782907

>>14782728
4chan hasn't been a secret for years. I'm 100% sure that most, if not every, EN chuuba is here to a degree. the known ones aren't doing well since they are containment breakers which likely means they are also retards when it comes to creating content

>> No.14782911

>>14782820
it's a generic morning show level horoscope
if she wants to do proper astrology, she need to do holomem specific one like mio with her tarot reading. that might not work well though since astrology relies on birthday/hour alignment as the basis.

>> No.14782921
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14782921

COME ON PEKORA, DISCONECT ONE PIN FROM YOUR COMPOSITE CABLE AGAIN FOR THE WIN!

>> No.14782945

So speaking of numbers, how many subs do (You) have, anons?

>> No.14782963

>>14782921
Please no, my eyes couldn't take another round of that nonsense.

>> No.14782974

>>14782860
I haven't really seen her streams, but for Mio at least, there's a vibe of comfiness for the most part. And it's almost always as a collab with other members. And a lot of the time it turns into a genuine advise giving stream, which matches her "mama" image. Many buffs going for her.

I'm guessing Sana is unironically into the horoscope stuff. and not just as a lore meme right?

>> No.14782992

>>14782945
kek, in social media sites that nobody cares about, over 4k and over 60M views

>> No.14783002

>>14782881
That's not really /here/ advice though, not to mention if they are really following our advice they'd cut out the sc reading and debuff game streams entirely.

>> No.14783018

>>14782945
[Spoiler] 83k

>> No.14783030

>>14783002
People are just so soured by Ethyria and Council that competence impresses us.

>> No.14783051
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14783051

>25k with pekora against kronii karaoke in a shitty early afternoon timeslot
>sub 5k with literally no competition in JP primetime
looks like the nousagis didn't like her all that much

>> No.14783058

>>14781074
They all look so gay

>> No.14783067

>>14782945
I actually have about 5k subs from back when I did audio drama translations. That was a good few years ago though, haven't really uploaded any new content there since 2018

>> No.14783071
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14783071

Time to ship the nijien boys with the girls. We're taking back our paypigs and goslings. Nothing personnel, Riku-chan.

>> No.14783088

>>14782758
Today's recording are Miko, Lamy and Towa
Noel went back home will be absent for a week or two
Flare sick
Rushia menhera after pet died
yes it's weird to have no JP at this time
usually either Rushia or Miko will be present at this timeslot

>> No.14783117

>>14783018
Ctrl + S

>> No.14783121

>>14783058
Why can't they have a guy that guys can like like Maimoto or Yashiro. You know, someone to talk a bit about sports or someone to bet the ponies with.

>> No.14783130

>>14783088
>Flare sick
Patra went too far huh..

>> No.14783139
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https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1471752030091976708?s=20
Predictions? Is she the first selejo to get her 3D model?
Chigusa is very cute I'm proud

>> No.14783144

>>14783051
Her last pokemon stream got 2-3k iirc but still that's sad

>> No.14783161

>>14783071
wtf did they actually make the "dog" cup? fuck I missed out

>> No.14783162

>>14783058
Because they are.

>> No.14783163

>>14783051
JP only wants to watch friend fish

>> No.14783178

>>14783139
Shit, that means LazuLight's 3D debut will happen soon. I think they can get at least 80k.

>> No.14783188

>>14783058
Dude Kpop LMAO

>> No.14783211

>>14783139
Oh hey they are finally moving onto the selejo girls. That means 9 more 3d debuts left for the JP branche, right?

>> No.14783216

>>14782992
TikTok?

>> No.14783244

>>14783139
Tell me when Hisui got a 3D for her chuuni outfit (never)

>> No.14783257

>>14783178
>that means LazuLight's 3D debut will happen soon
hahaha

>> No.14783274

>>14783051
She's speaking only English, they might stop by for a moment and then move on at most.

>> No.14783292

>>14783139
>Predictions?
Tons of hype. I think 85k is the floor. Selejo is no longer the bastard children no one cares exists. They are prime time and inclining.

>> No.14783302

>>14783163
the people watching that day after day are legit mentally disabled, she's not even particularly interesting as a zatsudan streamer

>> No.14783311

>>14783139
50k-60k

>> No.14783320

>>14783302
They probably put her on as background noise and fell asleep.

>> No.14783327
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14783327

25 minutes till Haruka's 3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAPpZujM9l0

>> No.14783330

>>14783161
Yep, should've ordered it back in October bro

>> No.14783356

>>14783139
On Christmas eve, really?

>> No.14783360

>>14781918
Kek i'd call council and marine schizo reimu from now on

>> No.14783363

>>14783051
MC colllab w/ Pekora Vs 4th Pokemon stream

>> No.14783367

>>14783139
I predict Matsuri and the NijiEN girls will retweet this and that there will be some EN comments in the chat.

Also, really happy. Everyone likes Chigusa.

>> No.14783378

>>14783302
A zhang appear!

>> No.14783394

>>14783257
That's dumb. If you watch HoloMyth you would know that they are dying for 3D and the seethe is boiling over. Most of them can't co a stream without bringing it up. It's a perfect way to whomp them and sew discord in HoloEN. It could led to Gura's graduation and Ame's. It will put NijiEN on the map with 3 golds too.

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14783416

>>14783244
That's the 1 sad part about Niji 3Ds.
Their base models are usually really plain and nowhere near the level of their alts.

>> No.14783439

>>14783394
>anon just outright schizoposting now
The fucking state of nijien

>> No.14783443
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14783443

So how long until Sony graduate all of their vtuber?

>> No.14783460

>>14781677
>shes one of those retarded spic posters

>> No.14783476

>>14783139
>xmas eve 21:00 jst friday
Huge competition

>> No.14783480

>>14783439
I'm a hololive fag. I know that not having 3D debuts hurt HoloMyth and they want them a lot. I'm just saying the embarassment and destruction of hololive in the west can be achieved by LazeLight 3D debuts.

>> No.14783486

>>14781918
kek

>> No.14783487

>>14782688
What about him?

>> No.14783496

>>14783292
>They are prime time and inclining.
Really?
>>14783367
What about Suisei?
>>14783139
I wonder if any of the APEX crowd will come.

>> No.14783521

1am welp https://youtu.be/W-Uap7JQBao
Niji win today

>> No.14783539

>>14782881
HoloX already failed following the usual numbers advice when they had streams going on at the same time and they weren't collabs with each other.

>> No.14783581
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14783581

I never pegged Okayu as a drinker but she was blitzed as fuck in this stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mCve4oeA3E

Did she ever have a drinking stream? If so what was the peak?

>> No.14783589

>>14783496
I hope she'll retweet it
Maybe she'll even show up on the live

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14783624

>>14783480
>>14783394

>> No.14783645

>>14783480
their 3d would be lucky to break 15k. a realistic number would be 10-12k

>> No.14783688

>>14781543
Bro, I got baited so hard by the thumbnail. Thought it was gonna be all of them eventually but everytime I tried to tune in, it was just Bae. Was my timing just off?

>> No.14783742

>>14783394
Alright, you're outright delusional. Here's your you, now get out.

>> No.14783755

the japan travel restrictions only last up to december 31 2021
https://www.mofa.go.jp/ca/fna/page4e_001053.html#section7

>> No.14783770

>>14781918
It's sus that when this gets out, enschizo or councilschizo is suddenly quiet

>> No.14783772

>>14783367
She is an amazing singer

>> No.14783780

>>14783688
Nah, she just used an incorrect thumbnail and you got baited as a result.

>> No.14783811

>>14783521
I can't believe we're letting another day slip holo bros. We're winning the month 15-1 too. Maybe we will lose the month now. I think our reign of terror is over and nijisanji will inherit the earth.

>> No.14783850

>>14783755
O'really ?
https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2021121600824/kishida-hints-at-extension-of-tightened-border-controls.html

>> No.14783853

>>14783581
I want to breed this fatcat!!

>> No.14783867

>>14783139
Higher than any holo gen 5.

>> No.14783882

>>14783772
She is.
Though, among the Selejo, she's the one S- tier singer.

>> No.14783908

>>14783850
Fuck this kishida dude, BRING MY NIGGA ABE BACK!

>> No.14783970

Looking at the HoloX AmongUS collab it seem Chloe paypigs may be opting out of SC her in this collab in Favor of her upcoming pokemon stream

>> No.14783991

>I wont be reading SC for collabs and utawaku
>Got 100k on the collab frame before it starts anyway

>> No.14783993

>>14783480>>14783645

Lazulight 3D will get around 35k-45k
>due to being the first NijIEN 3D and possibly first than HoloMyth
Selen will get 50k but the others will only get 30k-40k.
Ethyria will get 30k-35k.

As for HoloEN (all those who think All of them can get 200k or beat Coco are either falseflaggers or delusional)

Gura: 180k (200k if they shill it hard)
Mori: 140k (most likely the 1st, if there will be major overlaps then 100k)
Ame, Ina: 90k
Kiara: 75k
IRyS: 95k
Kronii: 110k
Mumei, Fauna: 85k
Bae: 75k
Sana: 50k

>> No.14784010

>>14783139
20/02/16 - Shellin Burgundy (has 3D)
20/03/07 - Amemori Sayo (has 3D) (got postponed at the last minute due to family issues)
20/04/01 - Kuroi Shiba
20/04/12 - Hayama Marin (has 3D)
20/05/19 - Hayase Sou
20/09/21 - Suzuki Masaru
20/09/25 - Gwelu Os Gar
20/09/27 - Nagao Kei
20/10/17 - Fushimi Gaku
20/10/25 - Kaida Haru (has 3D)
20/11/28 - Suzuya Aki (has 3D)
20/12/11 - Kitakoji Hisui
20/12/12 - Genzuki Toujirou
21/01/02 - Yamagami Karuta
21/01/09 - Sorahoshi Kirame
21/02/10 - Seto Miyako
21/02/23 - Suo Sango
21/03/22 - Todoroki Kyouko (has 3D)
21/05/01 - Gilzaren III
21/06/05 - Asahina Akane
21/06/06 - Kurusu Natsume
21/06/24 - Azuchi Momo
21/07/23 - Lain Paterson
21/07/23 - Leos Vincent
21/07/24 - Lauren Iroas
21/07/24 - Axia Krone
21/07/29 - Oliver Evans
21/08/05 - Asuka Hina
21/09/14 - Naruse Naru
21/10/04 - Todo Kohaku

Plus Hana Macchia from ID who made it in June 2020 but has said she doesn't want it until her genmates qualify too, and Lazulight, Obsydia, Nina and Millie from EN starting with Elira on June 4th, obviously these depend on travel restrictions too

>> No.14784014
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>>14781074
12 hours update
155k trailer

next update 24 hours

LazuLight subs 24hrs
>Elira: 14.6k
>Pomu: 13.5k
>Finana: 13.4k

Obsydia subs 24hrs
>Rosemi 16k
>Selen 16k
>Petra18k

Ethyria subs24 hrs
>Mina 13.7k
>Nina 13.7k
>Reimu 13.1k
>Enna 12.8k

>> No.14784019

>>14783460
I wonder if she is that self hating spic schizo.

>> No.14784075

>>14784014
Yep, looks like people are holding back from subbing. Either they're waiting until debut to minimize culling, it they're waiting for debut to see if they're even worth subbing.

>> No.14784083

>>14784014
Petra was set

>> No.14784101

>>14784014
Bear in mind that edengumi ended up with more viewers than subs so, you know temper your expectations accordingly

>> No.14784110
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14784110

>>14783993
im sure you know a lot about ens
go back

>> No.14784121

>>14783991
LETS GO

>> No.14784168

>>14784014
My bet is viewers will be less than 1k but with a decent number of sc

>> No.14784185

>>14781850
She would have seen me become her fan at least but I also did complain about her model.

>> No.14784217

before imposter buffs come in:to ruin the comparisons
Holo X Among Us (just started)
12k Laplus
10k Chloe
9k Iroha
6k Koyo
3k Lui

>> No.14784239

>>14784217
Jesas Lui, she is really the Sana of X.

>> No.14784241

>>14784217
lui-nee...

>> No.14784266

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1471634868757233668
20k likes wtf twice the number that ethyria got.(ethyria 9.7k) https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1445571237342679045

>> No.14784281

It definitely seem that La+"s strategy of intentionally using a different Thumbnail in HoloX collabs to get more view is working

>> No.14784290
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20k get, the mama roleplay actually lost some viewers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAPpZujM9l0
Guess Haruka's fans find her cute more than coom

>> No.14784297

>>14784217
>The best girl in a generation comes in last place
Why?

>> No.14784346

>>14784266
there is no point in numberfagging twitter when Coco's and Bora's graduation announcement got similar numbers of likes but in the end Coco got 10 times more viewers than Bora

>> No.14784355

>>14784297
hag filter, jps love young girls

>> No.14784411

>>14780288
If they were really going all in they could hire better composer for the theme song.

>> No.14784420

>>14783993
last i check vshojo's 3d events don't break 20k so why would niji en's

>> No.14784436

>>14784010
That's still a mountain.

>21/05/01 - Gilzaren III
Whose channel will it be on?

>> No.14784464

>>14784101
Most of HoloX had more views than subs so this might just be the normal.

>> No.14784485

Kuzuha
https://www.twitch.tv/stylishnoob4

>> No.14784515
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>>14784436
who else?

>> No.14784517

>>14784290
So.. Easy 40k?

>> No.14784519

What went wrong? HoloX just get around 50k in total while other holos are not streaming

>> No.14784520

>>14784101
Different fanbase. nips are autistic

>> No.14784530

>>14784217
La+ on top as expected and right now Iroha has more viewers than Chloe lol

>> No.14784542

>>14784355
Korone and Fubuki proves you wrong. Hell, Botan is the most popular in 5.

>> No.14784551

>>14784515
Kek.
Now, my knowledge comes purely from thread-reading when it comes to NijiJP, but when was the last time that bloke actually streamed on his own channel?

>> No.14784585

>>14784519
Rude!! Matsuri and Bae are streaming lmao.

But wait atleast 40mins before judging their numbers.

>> No.14784601

>>14783139
Chigusa is pretty well liked these days but doesn't get good numbers. With it on Christmas eve I genuinely have no idea how this will go.

>> No.14784600

>>14784517
still stuck at 21k kek

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14784639

Is this girl not liked or what? didnt see a performance like this in a while

>> No.14784640

>>14784517
>>14784519
Ouch yea, this is quite a bit lower than expected? Oh, it's a FRIDAY NIGHT IN JP, isn't this timeslot a pretty decent debuff until later in the night?

>> No.14784659

>>14784542
Wait, fubuki is a hag?

>> No.14784660

>>14784519
The numberrot is getting to your brain. Remember, before the holox debut, you can usually get gold with 30k-40k ccv.

>> No.14784663

>>14784601
>Chigusa
She was the one that sang Virtual Live on debut right?

>> No.14784674

>>14784659
the absolute state

>> No.14784675

>>14784640
yeah, usually friday is the slowest day of the week for jp

>> No.14784691

>>14784659
Hi newfriend.

>> No.14784709

Chloe reclining

>> No.14784710

>>14784659
Newfagchama...
Mio revealed she and Fubuki were classmates recent too, so if you didn't know before that you should know NOW.

>> No.14784721

Rui ne....

>> No.14784725

>>14784674
of my dick

>> No.14784734

>my sister when watching the male trailer: is this a bl game?

KEKW

>> No.14784755

>Only 55k people watching the gen 6 collab
What went wrong bros? Will wave 4 fall to such lows too?

>> No.14784764

>>14784734
How do we appeal to the market demand for male vtubers?
Let’s hire 5 gay guys.

>> No.14784785
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14784785

In terms of ccv
Laplus = Pekora
Iroha = Marine
Chloe = Rushia
Koyori = Noel
Lui = Flare

>> No.14784784

>>14784734
don't they have the same artist too?

>> No.14784786
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14784786

>> No.14784791

How old is La+?

>> No.14784807

Lapurasu strong. She and iroha def the standout of the groub. Kuroe going to be the rushia of the group.

>> No.14784808

>>14784639
She is not very popular, and she just talked for 30 minutes and did not resort to her main feature. If she did ASMR, which she does well, a lot more people would come.

>> No.14784810

>>14784755
Nips are still at their nomikai, fridays are always like this

>> No.14784813

>>14784639
She's a 3 view. Generally just gets ignored.

>> No.14784818

>>14784791
19

>> No.14784821

>>14784791
19

>> No.14784822

>>14784639
her 3d debut is in the wrong season. shoulda happened in august

>> No.14784826

>>14784710
Nice hag friend

>> No.14784837

>>14784791
19

>> No.14784838

>>14784822
explain this

>> No.14784844

>>14784810
I swear to god we go through this every goddamn Friday JP night.

>> No.14784872

>>14784807
Revenge on the traitor at last. Only thing left is for Laplus to catch up to her again and deal the final blow.

>> No.14784878

>>14784838
she's the one who blows up in koushien season. going from like whatever low numbers she has to like 20k+

>> No.14784896

>>14784838
She was one of the koshien coaches, those streams put her in the 5 digits instead of her usual low hundreds.

>> No.14784898 [DELETED] 

>>14784807
For now maybe. Laplus is the menhera type. I'll bet she gonna do do something yab in the future and end up like matsuri

>> No.14784957

>>14784784
No, only two of them.

>> No.14784965

>>14784639
>22k 30 min in
No, this is really bad, since she started at 19k and only got 3k in the next 30 min?
There's never been this slow an increase for 3D debuts.

She has had a great year too, with baseball finals, some memes and a lot of international connections.
Plus, way higher CCV then most of the last reveals, who got double her numbers.
I'm still enjoying the kusogaki Yamato Nadeshiko's 3D, but these numbers are all time low.

Is there something else in Nini sucking up viewers?

>> No.14784978

>>14784807
For now maybe. Laplus is the menhera type. i'll bet she do something yab in the future and end up like matsuri

>> No.14785011

>>14784898
Preach it rainbow sister. Aloe will happen again.

>> No.14785013

>most subs
>third in ccv
So she's the designated dead subs central this gen huh

>> No.14785021

Kuroe and iroha now are neck and neck.

>> No.14785037

>>14784957
Which ones?

>> No.14785044

>>14784898
>>14784978
kek what a schizo

>> No.14785059

>>14784978
I heard the rrat but so far so good i mean wasnt pekora the same before joining holo??

>> No.14785075

>>14784965
>Inb4 holoX actually stole a fuckton of tourists from NijiJP

>> No.14785081
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>> No.14785124

>>14784785
>Lui = Flare
I mean I predicted Lui to be there Flare of the group but I thought that'd be with Flare's SC to compensate, instead she's bottom by that metric too and basically every other...

>> No.14785125

>>14783367
Towa already retweeted it. Towa is pretty close with this girl.

>> No.14785132

>>14784808
>Does ASMR
>Views deop by 1.5k
She can't catch a break

>> No.14785133

>>14785059
I mean we just have to see in the long run. She already have some antis and haters according to 5ch

>> No.14785143

>>14783139
What the fuck are they trying to make? I already tried predicting them doing Kaida for this date for maximum lonely girls night and SC. Fuck you chigusa.

>> No.14785146

>>14784978
>>14785059
It will be unlikely with the senpai present. Once they collab, hang out off collab, and touch grass the menhera tendecies will reduce. Also, there's lui-nee as the designated hag to anticipate this kinda outbreak

>> No.14785155

>>14784639
She's boring

>> No.14785170

>>14785133
Who doesn’t?

>> No.14785184

>>14785133
>5ch
Those fuckers hate everything

>> No.14785186

>>14784551
He did an unlisted stream when he hit 100k, the most recent visible one was December 30th last year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AE4KIRNtAo

>> No.14785193

>>14785132
Too late, she had to start with that

>> No.14785203

>>14785081
is this the lowest numbers a 3d debut ever got?

>> No.14785204

>>14785170
Kazama Iroha

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>>14785143
You're off by quite a bit

>> No.14785223
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14785223

we still have the gold lads, this does not focking slip!

>> No.14785275

>>14785081
Damn, peko marika gonna win the day?! >>14785124

>> No.14785317

>>14785275
Either her or Fubiki with pokemon cards.

>> No.14785333

>>14785275
Or fubuki unboxing.

>> No.14785343

>>14785204
This is true at the moment so she better keep her seiso act in check. I don't want another haachama....

>> No.14785353

>>14785218
It's not about the queue. Those are meant to be broken, it's about maximizing output of SCs during a christmas night with one of the popular males.

>> No.14785384

>>14785275
Kuzuha seems to be playing, but I don't know what his number was before he went to members

>> No.14785391

>>14784675
does that mean vtuber fans are normies?

>> No.14785408

>>14785133
>according to 5ch

>> No.14785461

>Enter baseball
>Number incline

>> No.14785470

>>14785408
>5ch posters say they're antis and hate her
Yes?

>> No.14785494

>>14785353
Those are only broken for the events/concerts. The reveals are usually in a strict order.

>> No.14785496

>>14785391
more like otakus with jobs

>> No.14785513

>>14782092
She unarchived her most recent ASMR stream because the graynames in her chat were being shitheads.
>>14782728
It doesn’t seem to have hurt Myth, Risu would probably be doing just the same regardless, and Mumei has plausible deniability, but it doesn’t seem to be negatively affecting her if she is /here/.
>>14783051
How many in Council actually get above 5k on Pokémon streams?
>>14783688
She was probably banking on getting a boost from Mumei showing up and causing a snowball effect like last time, but Thursday’s finals turned out to be more exhausting for her than she expected.

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>>14785081

>> No.14785532

>>14785391
Nip wagies are forced to go drinking with their colleagues every friday, nothing to do with being normies or not

>> No.14785561

>>14785514
Is 25k really going to win gold for today?

>> No.14785582

>>14785561
Pekora has a high chance of beating that.

>> No.14785583

shuba playing yakuza, that gets good numbers as well

>> No.14785588

>>14785561
It's Friday, we go through this shit every Friday, give it a rest already

>> No.14785628

>>14785588
Friday night is bad for JP, yes

>> No.14785643

>>14785561
Fubuki is still fishing for 40k everyday

>> No.14785645

>>14785561
pekora with mario kart
even if she has a fucked up screen again she will still beat that 25k

>> No.14785676

>>14785561
Pekora will definitely beat that, Iroha's utawaku could too possibly and friend depending on what time she starts

>> No.14785690

holoX shilling debut merch

>> No.14785700
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14785700

HolloX merch already.

>> No.14785718

>>14785676
freind starts now with card unboxing, maybe she fishes later, but that might be after midnight.

>> No.14785722

>merch already
Damn, they're actually using what's left of the debut buff.

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>>14785700
Yagoo I kneel

>> No.14785793

>>14785722
I don't remember edengumi having merch and they already used up their buff

>> No.14785813

>>14785186
It's crazy how different his voice is from his avatar.

>> No.14785817

>>14785700
Based, giving them income before they can get their superchat money.

>> No.14785834

>>14785793 (me)
Oh wait kek, they already used their merch buff from the get go

>> No.14785847

>>14778703
Nijisanji is survival of the fittest and it's the type of environment suits males more.

>> No.14785874

>>14785700
Tapestry and pin badges only?

>> No.14785900

>>14785793
>>14785834
I lack the context and the correct mental illness to understand these posts.

>> No.14785911

>>14785718
Oh she's fishing at 1 so that'll be on tomorrow's chart (I still hate that it works like that now, bring back the vnuma days of midnight streams counting for the same day as ones at 11)

>> No.14785915

>>14785874
the good stuff will come for their birthdays

>> No.14785970
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14785970

>Who would win the fight?

Super hot rookie gen 6 's first massive among us collab

or

Failure gen council's lazy clock eating spicy noodles?

>> No.14785991

>>14785970
>massive

>> No.14786017

>>14785970
Council schizo on suicide watch

>> No.14786049

>>14786017
don't give up yet Reimu keep on grinding

>> No.14786050

>>14785970
Kronii-sama, I kneel

>> No.14786060

>>14785970
>one (1) member of council
vs
>five (5) POVs of one gen
it's obvious who wins numbers individually, and she barely just beat lapras on max viewers
council is a failure

>> No.14786065

>180k debut
>16k now
what went wrong?

>> No.14786066
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>> No.14786090

>>14786065
your life

>> No.14786093

>>14785874
https://setreadyhololive.hololivepro.com/
Comicket stuff as well.

>> No.14786094

>>14786066
easy 200k

>> No.14786106

>>14785970
Gee I wonder, maybe the streamer without 40k of her potential audience watching her genmates?

>> No.14786131

>>14778953
Hologra for Holostars

>> No.14786144

>>14786066
Isn't this the one that was on purple oni's channel last year? Do we know where it's being streamed this time?

>> No.14786150

>>14786066
Any details of who is in it?

>> No.14786149

>>14786106
>implying a whole bunch of those don't just have multiple PoVs up at the same time

>> No.14786156

>>14786066
Ohoh

>> No.14786159

>>14786066
Finally 1 Gold! Eat shit holobro

>> No.14786170

>>14785970
Why don't you compare their median instead of cherry picking?

>> No.14786178

>>14778953
HoloSports

>> No.14786187

>>14786170
Why don't you?

>> No.14786195

>>14778953
I'll go get a rope

>> No.14786214

>>14786065
>180k debut
The only one debut 180k is Pink Cat
>16k now
You mean 8k

>> No.14786218

>>14786195
>male bdsm
Gay!

>> No.14786226

Wow. Luxiem already has more subs than every member of the new Prism gen got in an entire month. I guess people really do like men.

>> No.14786245

>>14786187
Why would I? I'm not the that started the dumb comparison.

>> No.14786244

>>14786226
>midgets fight
go go

>> No.14786247

Council vs HoloX again....

>> No.14786252

Dang, friday is such a number killer.

>> No.14786253

>>14786226
Connor was right

>> No.14786258

>>14786150
It was just announced.

>> No.14786262

>>14786226

>>14784014

>> No.14786287

>>14786262
so they are doing worst than the previous waves

>> No.14786314

>>14786170
>Today's numbers
>Cherry picking
You can't make council schizo's shit up

>> No.14786321

>>14786159
*2 gold. they already won once

>> No.14786332

>>14786287
Just hope their personalities aren’t just dick and semen jokes.

>> No.14786354

friend, open the cards already....

>> No.14786363

>>14786258
I just saw Rindou's tweet (thanks to Nui quote tweeting it kek) so yeah, no details on it outside the date at all yet.

>> No.14786372

>>14786094
Only 200k? I thought Nijisan had grown since this summer. Minimum the double.

>> No.14786376

>>14784872
whats this about?

>> No.14786380

I can see Bae overtaking Sana in the future in SC if she keeps up the amount she has been getting these past few streams.

>> No.14786389
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>>14786060
>Losing to a failure
I can feel the seething from this post

>> No.14786411

>>14786376
Don’t reply to the schizo

>> No.14786418

>>14786372
>>14786094
What are the numbers from last year? ANy screenshots?

>> No.14786425
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14786425

Just passed Nene.

>> No.14786439

who asked?

>> No.14786469

Fubuki 20k get!

>> No.14786470

Friend now at 20k.

>> No.14786479

>>14786425
Are you reimu? shilling your countryman?!

>> No.14786484

>>14786418
130k

>> No.14786494

https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1471830213479002126
1.5m yen in SCs for Haruka is... not great, could've been worse but really doesn't make up for the abysmal view count

>> No.14786493

Friday night is a number killer for JPs cause of the whole nomikai culture so every wage slave is stuck with their bosses on a bar right about now, but does a similar effect exist for ENs?

>> No.14786507

>>14786389
I'll let the clocknigger cope
can only win against a five-man POV kek

>> No.14786510

>>14786376
Part of her profile where she wants to overthrow Laplus and how she actually managed to steal the lead from her despite Laplus initially gaining the most subs. Now Chloe is slowing down and Laplus is catching up to her again.
>>14786411
Nah, I'm not one of the usual schizo antis.

>> No.14786522

>>14786314
I know I shouldn't reply to a schizo, but it's funny how "today's numbers" ignore everyone but Kronii. It will be even funnier when Kronii get beaten by Iroha later today.

>> No.14786528
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14786528

You all are shitting on HoloX and Council again.
But they did better than all of Nijisanji (except the 3D Debut).
Kuzuha at 11k?
>If this was Gura, the doompostings will flood the thread
Kanae at 4k?
>If this was a Holo Big hitter then the shitpostings will flood the thread.

Trying to hide these embarassing numbers?

>> No.14786542

>14786425
Suicidarte inmediatamente maricón

>> No.14786546

>>14786493
Sounds like cope and excuse
Friend hit 20k already

>> No.14786555

>>14786262
Obsydia and some of Ethyria actually did better than Lazulight? Huh.

>> No.14786560

>>14786493
I would say Saturday nights for burgers instead, but “out with mates” instead of nomikai

>> No.14786569
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>>14786542
Deal with it.

>> No.14786571

>>14781677
Now I will watch your streams

>> No.14786576

>>14786546
? It happens literally every week

>> No.14786587

>>14786484
I have no idea on it.
>Is it a multi-POV and that 130k are the total numbers?
or
>Is it like Koshien where its on a single POV and got 130k?

>> No.14786593
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>>14786528
>Hit 10k at a super debuff game
king...

>> No.14786617

>>14786507
If you are wondering why Clocksniggers are acting like this, just look at Laplus subcount, she is 6k subs from passing Kronii.

>> No.14786619

>>14786546
touristchama pls

>> No.14786627

>>14786528
BAE MOGGED BY MATULI LMAO

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14786656

This is nearing slippage territory. What’s Pekora doing today?
>checks: Marika
She could take the day with another Daltonism MK

>> No.14786666

Have any Nijis broke past 20k on a normal stream this month?

>> No.14786668
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14786668

>Highest views
>Lowest SC

>> No.14786674

>>14786528
Did Bae just lose to Kson and Matuli? What the fuck?

>> No.14786680

>>14782047
>reading guides

>> No.14786684

>>14786555
You would hope there is an increase between waves.

>> No.14786686

>>14786656
Also
>checked her stream
>not a single Nico Nii
DROPPED HARD

>> No.14786694

>>14786627
>Mogged by a 1M subs karaoke
Wow... what a shame...

>> No.14786704

>>14786571
Based.

>> No.14786706

>>14786674
>>14786627
Rat peaked at 5.2k

>> No.14786722

>>14786546
Anon....your JP culture reps...
Even EOP should be familiar with it if you've read enough manga/seen enough anime...

>> No.14786733

>>14786528
>kson ARK
kek, she really likes it because it kills her numbers

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14786738

>>14786668
Chloe, Iroha I kneel

>> No.14786754

Nijifags trying to shift the focus again.
Nijis are struggling to break 20k these days. Even 10k is an achievement now for them.

The only hope for high numbers are those Big Collabs.

>> No.14786764

>>14786528
How does Kson gets so fucking much SCs with views so bad? Is she loved by a couple of oil barons or something?

>> No.14786765

Why is gen 6 reclining hard?
How can we save them?

>> No.14786775

>>14786668
who the hell even SCs during collabs

>> No.14786781

>>14786764
Did you start watching vtubers yesterday?

>> No.14786782
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14786782

* Niji current numbers *
>S-Sultan, what they did to your beautiful numbers!?

>> No.14786787

Why is nijisanji reclining hard?
How can we save them

>> No.14786792

>>14786764
She has some rich gachis, one of them alone accounts for 20% of her SC revenue.

>> No.14786796

>>14786782
Holy recline

>> No.14786804

>>14786781
No, it's something that I've been wondering for a while.

>> No.14786810

>>14786494
I feel bad niji friends, she seems like a nice lass and very friendly to the Japanese impaired...

>> No.14786811

>>14786782
SAVE US RED KUZUHA!

>> No.14786817

>>14786782
Absolutely Disgusting

>> No.14786825

>>14786775
Chloe's fans couldn't superchat her for a whole 48 hours, they got blueballed and couldn't wait for the solo stream to shoot their money all over her face

>> No.14786836

>king is doing a e-celebs minecraft collab now

>> No.14786854

>>14786836
wait, don't tell me is that mc tournament

>> No.14786856

>>14786836
And is only getting 14k.
Ewwww

>> No.14786863

>>14786811
Where kuzuha 2?

>> No.14786865

>>14786782
Rin...

>> No.14786874

>>14786782
I wonder what the NipBro chart will be for Niji boys this month. That’s a mean of peaks chart and with Kuzuha dropping some 10k per stream in his own peaks (and Kanae and Ibrahim not doing much better) that will be catastrophic for the boys media.

Mito and Lize being strong this month will likely improve the girls

>> No.14786882

>>14786668
She's been soft suggesting that giving money to her roommate is the best thing to do.

>> No.14786900

>>14786882
What? I call bullshit on that.

>> No.14786903

>>14786782
Oof

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