/asp/ aspiring VTubers and startup

[Anonymous No.]

What is /asp/?

A thread where we discuss our vtuber aspirations! Whether it's agency-based or independent, let's help each other grow and make it as entertainers. Indies are welcome to join, but shill responsibly. Share what knowledge, insights, what works/doesn't work for you. Remember to do your research before providing personally identifying information to companies online!

FAQ:
Do I need an expensive, fully rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
No! You can always start out as a pngtuber!

Where can I learn how to Live2D rig avatars?
Check out Brian Tsui's (of Iron Vertex) YouTube channel!

Where can I find artists/riggers?
Skeb.jp, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

Twitch or Youtube?
Multistream to both.

RESOURCES:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
List of Assets and other resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Stay grounded, stay hopeful. Don't kill yourself yet even if it is over and never began to begin with, and bump the thread sometimes.

Previous thread: >>14696471

[Anonymous No.]

Dunno where else to ask, but since it seems like we have a few singers here: does anybody know exercises to increase lung capacity and diaphragm strength/control?

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>>14779171
Vocalizing even if just humming everyday can help
Running/jogging and swimming especially is good to train your lungs

[Anonymous No.]

don't bother trying to make it by going corpo. it's all nepotism picks anyway. hololive, nijisanji, tsunderia take your pick. unless you already have an in dont even bother.

[Anonymous No.]

>don't bother trying to make it by going corpo. it's all nepotism picks anyway. hololive, nijisanji, tsunderia take your pick. unless you already have an in dont even bother.

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>viewer getting uppity again
when will they learn?

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>>14779557
who was orla friends with prior to joining tsunderia

[Anonymous No.]

It's been a while since I've last been in this thread. Any recent advice, tips, or anything been dropped for the good ole' 2views trying to find an audience?

[Anonymous No.]

Do you think complaints about the /m/ale debuff will drop if the nijimales make it?

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>>14780515
I'm really hoping a rising tide raises all ships and that the nijimales make male envtubers look promising enough for more corpos to look into them. Niji being the only one doing it is the biggest debuff to trying to make a career, or at least some spending money, out of it all.

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>>14780515
They won't make it and it'll only get worse. They'll have the default few hundred because they're a major corpo but I can't see them breaking 1k very often.

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>>14780588
and this isn't to say males can't make it, just that these definitely won't be the type to do it if they're really going the fujobait otomebait whatever the fuck girl bait route.

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>>14779962
>beware people giving advice
>you have to enjoy what you're doing
that's all i've got

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>>14779171
>>14779220
To add on the above if you can walk/jog/run at higher altitudes it helps.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there some etiquette or dont's on who to follow on twitter or you can just follow anyone you like?

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>>14783527
No real etiquette. Follow whoever you want. Personally, I'd avoid follow-for-follow, but it does boost your numbers, and some people care about that.
Also, if you're an 18+ account, don't follow people obvious under 18, as in, it's in their bio.

Oh, wait, no - one rule. If you follow someone, that's public knowledge. So if you follow political accounts, expect bored people to sift through.

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How much does voice matter? I sound very boyish despite being nearly 20. I don’t want people to find me annoying. I’m worried it might put people off

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>>14783687
Is there some trick to making fellow vtuber friends or friends at all?

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>>14779557
Until its Prism Project, where Rita's friend cannot get in for past 2 gens

[Anonymous No.]

I got 600 on Twitter! Should I celebrate full numbers on Twitter? Last time I did celebrate 500, but you know, half a thousand and 600 is a little different????

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>>14784861
Do you really need to be in asp if you can pull those numbers?

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>>14784861
I don't think Twitter anything is worth celebrating because it doesn't translate directly into viewers. There are vtweeters you'll see with 10k+ Twitter followers who barely break 20 concurrent viewers. Celebrate Twitch or YouTube milestones, not Twitter.

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>>14785061
>vtweeters
I constantly forget these exist and somehow actually gain followings.

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>>14783687
Thanks anon.

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>>14785090
They'll spend months and months tweeting, planning a debut, do one, and immediately plummet to single digit or barely double digit view counts and stop streaming shortly thereafter and return to tweeting. It's wild to watch the life cycle play out in real time.

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I’ve “started” last January but got so bogged down by learning video editing and drawing and making my model I barely streamed… should I give up on doing it at this point? I even see reality app vtubers doing numbers on twitch sometimes, I don’t think I’ll swim out of zero view hell desu.

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>>14786001
If you're finally streaming then link your shit and I'll watch.

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>>14784900
600 on twitter isn't a lot and doesn't necessarily translate to having good streaming numbers to be fair

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>>14786001
Do you want to stream or not? Set a schedule, stick to it, and drop your links.

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>>14786176
Have there been any vtweeters who successfully turned Twitter followers into viewers?

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>>14787392
Wasn't one of the nijisanji a vtweeter who successfully became a corpo? Finana I think?

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>>14787461
True, a very big outlier, though really, she didn't convert Twitter followers into viewers, she convinced a corporation that she had the right skills, and the viewers came with the corporate bump.

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>>14787461
Kinda, she had a wee bit of streaming xp. Was like a 10averageview over a couple weeks. But other than that yeah, mostly a Vtweeter also claims to have been a Myth audition finalist

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>>14787761
Good for her, I guess. Wonder if it was connections she made while vtweeting or if the bar is lower than it seems.

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>>14787882
Probably a little of both. It's always worth shooting your shot, but a lot of people here constantly talk down to themselves.

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>>14787882
Her streaming (which again, was fairly low numbers) was actually a couple years before she started vtweeting, so vtweeting (and/or forming/falling into the right cliques) almost certainly was a big part of the momentum.

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>>14787945
Well, I'm already streaming. I actually skipped over the step of vtweeting at all which may have been a small mistake as I'm a damn near perpetual 2view. That being said my last few streams have been on the incline. I got up to 8 viewers at once recently.
I think the vtweeting step might have been important in learning how to self advertise and actually make connections though, as I have neither of those skills and just have to sort of get lucky that I get stumbled across, which is probably far from ideal. This is where it would be useful to have a corpo but to get a corpo you already need to show you can do those things so it's a pain.
I could just be attributing natural technique with something people learned how to do though. I've never been a big social media person.

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>>14784861
Personally, any excuse to celebrate seems like a good idea
That said, you should maybe consider limiting it to the platform?
Twitter numbers don't really help your stream. I've got a friend who recently hit 1000 followers, but is following 2000 on twitter, so it's not surprising. More, she's only got 90 followers on twitch, and a CCV of 1.5.

Celebrate Twitter on twitter. Do a self-promo thread or something

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>>14783785
>I sound very boyish despite being nearly 20.
That is because you are still a boy, anon. Just carry yourself confidently.

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>>14789694
he says it like it's a debuff
look at (or rather listen to the clips of) the nijien m*les about to come out, JP corpos love the bishy bullshit. You're statistically more likely to GMI it as a bishy [specifically with regards to chuubing] than a "cool gruff dad" type character, contrary to what some people wanna believe.

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>>14789871
Yeah, also a good point.

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>>14783785
GO FULL SHOTA PLEASE

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>>14784900
My yt subs is little over 300...

>>14785061
That's true, but also as >>14788384 said it's still celebrating excuse.

I will probably just host a raffle or something like that~ thanks anons!

[Anonymous No.]

Is there an actual alternative to Live2D for 2D Vtubers, preferably something that is free or open source? Can't believe a single company monopolized the whole industry, charging subscription prices and can get behind with it while everyone shitting on Adobe for doing same thing.

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>>14783785
Post vocaroo

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>>14791290
I've seen a couple of people share their own projects to create something similar in github but I'm a dumbass so Idk how anything works there

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Finana's roommate wasn't just vtweeter, she still streamed a few times according to her stats and had been attempting to do so since 2016 and likely had other content not under this name

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>>14787392
not many that I can think of; I remember seeing someone with a high 4 digit follower count settle to an average of 30-40 after debuting which is still nice to have when you start but that's barely a 1% conversation rate

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>>14786001
this is exactly why i've been railing against doing everything yourself since the beginning. too many /asp/ies wasted the entire year deluding themselves into thinking they just need to learn how to draw, how to rig, how to video edit and now in December have nothing to show for it.

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>>14794266
I think too many people confuse Twitter for content, when Twitter is a place to advertise your content.

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>>14795563
Which people from here did it right in your opinion?

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>>14795634
I'd assume anyone who has been actively streaming would fit that bill

[Anonymous No.]

>>14795732
and growing. it's easy to be an active 2view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14795634
only Lumi. everyone else is stagnating or given up and decided to treat vtubing as a tool for socializing.

[Anonymous No.]

On a scale of 1 to 10, how groomable are you?

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>>14791571
https://voca.ro/15tucxSyDLZr

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>>14796633
it sounds fine. better quality than the niji males mics even.

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>>14796633
You sound good, go ahead anon

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>>14796633
lol you worry too much man. people will eat that voice up

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>>14796709
>>14796633
Thanks guys I’ll do my best

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>>14796709
>>14796633
Thanks guys I’ll try my best
>>14796955
You really think so? I always thought deep or cool masculine sounding guys did the best unless you wanted to go full femboy route
>>14790370
That might be a good idea. I don’t know if there’s enough that people will be into shota to develop a good audience

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>>14797225
>You really think so? I always thought deep or cool masculine sounding guys did the best unless you wanted to go full femboy route
You don't really sound feminine at all, just young. I would advise against going full shota but I'm also not a shotacon

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>>14791290
No. there is no alternative on the same level and standard as Live2D.

funnily my trial of the pro version resets to 7 days before expiration every time I open the program.
who knows why this happen.... but this is fairly easy to do. you got this anon!

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>>14797521
Oh, really now? Noted.

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>>14797225
>I always thought deep or cool masculine sounding guys did the best
Kaji is an /asp/ie with a deep masculine voice and look at his numbers. it's not about the voice it's about your personality and charisma.

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>>14796628
Probably about an eight. My ex and did I not split on good terms, and she'd burned the majority of my social circle. I have some friends, but I don't get as much interaction with people as I could wish for. I'm desperate for pretty much any scrap of affection

[Anonymous No.]

Cadence's Discord was the public /asp/cord, right?

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>>14798608
yup

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>>14796628
Zero. [Spoiler] Was actually groomed after meeting someone through art streams I did when I was 13/14, I will never let that happen again. [/spoiler]

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How the fuck do you spoiler I thought that was how you do it

[Anonymous No.]

How do you make a good audition video

[Anonymous No.]

>>14798797
just highlight the text you want and ctrl+s

>>14798827
showcase your best talents and what your average stream will be like for viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>14798797
I think that capital S did you in

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>>14795848
thats me, how to get out of this tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>14798762
>>14798797
anonchama.... your spoiler tagging...
you can also type control+s

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>>14798827
nta but i tested it and holy shit it works, i've been typing out spoilers manually like a caveman

[Anonymous No.]

>>14798858
>>14798859
Thank you, and yeah probably so, sorry for goldfish brain D:

[Anonymous No.]

hello

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>>14799265
suh dude

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys think getting a stream deck is worth it?

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>>14799463
do you use a lot of hotkeys?
yes - then get one
no - don't bother

[Anonymous No.]

>>14799488
Fair enough. I was debating on whether I wanted an audio interface first or a stream deck since the one I was looking at was similarly priced

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How do I appeal to fujos? Should I appeal to fujos?
I meant to ask this last night before hearing of Luxiem. I think I asked this before that, actually, but didn't get an answer.
Did that anon that promised a fujo hunting guide show up again?

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>>14799591
They never did, but the last time I brought this up someone stepped up and wrote their own. If you go archive hunting for "fujo pandering guide" you'll probably find it

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>>14799547
what audio interface do you have already? chances are pretty good you don't have the ear to tell the difference if you're comparing a streamdeck and another audio interface.

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>>14799673
None yet. I was looking at the Focusrite Scarlett Solo (3rd Gen) USB Audio Interface on amazon though

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>>14800187
if you're looking at the scarlett solo consider the behringer um2. they're both entry level interfaces and neither you or your viewers will be able to tell the difference between the two after twitch compression.

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>>14800187
https://voca.ro/1adxAfvQL1Bf

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>>14800187
NTA and out of curiosity, what will you be using the interface for?
I was also looking into getting one.

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>>14799591
How are other people/brands appealing to them? Think you can replicate that? No? Don't waste your time and money. If you have to ask "How do I appeal to women" you've probably never been in a relationship and have no charisma, a guide won't help you. Anyone who needs a guide for that kind of thing already can't do it and anyone writing one has no experience doing it.

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>>14800403
You need one for an XLR mic

[Anonymous No.]

>if you don't already know it, you're never gonna learn it twitch partner chuuba returns to shit on aspies again
are you just doing this because it makes you feel better or something?

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>>14799591
>How do I appeal to fujos? Should I appeal to fujos?
>I meant to ask this last night before hearing of Luxiem. I think I asked this before that, actually, but didn't get an answer.
>Did that anon that promised a fujo hunting guide show up again?

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>>14800495
>>if you don't already know it, you're never gonna learn it twitch partner chuuba returns to shit on aspies again
>are you just doing this because it makes you feel better or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14800503
i miss /qa/........................

[Anonymous No.]

I've qualified for twitch affiliate, but noticed it won't let me multistream to YouTube... Feels sorta shit, cause I built my audience on YouTube first and then started multistreaming only for the twitch to take off. Should I just make the swap? Still upload content and vods to YT (a day later), or just forget about the affiliate and focus on being a real deal YTer with a twitch for visibility?

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>>14800348
Hmm alright thanks anon. I'll keep it in mind

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>>14800577
it really depends on what the content you want to create is

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>>14800495
No, I'm explaining that these aren't just skills anyone doing it picked up from a guide. Do you think Ais, Frost, Kitty, or shxtou read a guide on how to appeal to women and suddenly puled it off? You're looking at years worth of practice, except none of them started off doing it from streams. They built up the skills over years.

For people trying to start out streaming, you're going to be cringe from the get go, that's just a given. The problem is that your trial and error while seducing women is now on display for a more scrutinizing live audience and volatile community to see as opposed to the pre-recorded YT/Tiktok content they spent years doing and perfecting before the VTuber boom. You can't just read a guide and go live and seduce women.

Why would you accept a "guide" on how to do this from someone who likely doesn't consume the content nor do they create it? It's not the same as writing a guide on how to set up your microphone.

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>>14800358
Not bad honestly.

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>>14800664
so everything you just said is
>if you don't already know it, you're never gonna learn it

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>>14800577
>focus on being a real deal YTer with a twitch for visibility?
Other way around. Twitch should be where your streams are, Youtube should be where your scripted, short form, etc content is. You can absolutely get big and stream on Youtube as others have but it's an entirely different method of doing so since you need constant uploads. Do you like making pre-recorded videos more, or are you primarily a streamer?

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>>14800664
>They built up the skills over years.
How did they "build up" those "skills" over years then? That's at least a place I can start.

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>>14800696
No, I'm saying that you shouldn't pick up this random "guide" from a 4channer in hopes of going live to seduce women into giving you money. Look at what the other people doing this did and replicate that instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>so everything you just said is
>>if you don't already know it, you're never gonna learn it

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>>14800796
>Look at what the other people doing this did and replicate that instead.
See >>14800775
What did they do? I don't know what they did. How the fuck am I supposed to learn this? Because the way you say it sounds like boils down to
>just be popular with the ladies already bro

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>>14800686
https://voca.ro/1gruuiqACL7k

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>>14800775
ASMR, RP voice scenarios, voice acting, things of that nature.

https://youtu.be/8yPJ5pCVdvU

Here's some from Riikami (didn't bother listening to it because this shit makes me cringe), he's got a mainly female audience and pulls a few hundred viewers despite being relatively new to streaming because he already had prior content creation skills. Not saying you need to spend forever trying to learn but just going live one day and hoping you can seduce girls definitely isn't the way.

https://youtu.be/8yPJ5pCVdvU

[Anonymous No.]

>>14800662
>>14800733
I started out making videos, realized streaming seemed fun, decided to use my relative popularity as a video producer to get eyes onto my stream, and it turns out I've got a kind of knack for it. That's sorta where I'm stuck now. I think I'm a better streamer than a video producer, and I think I'm probably being stupid trying to have it both ways, but I'm wondering if there's not something I'm missing here, looking for some stories I can reference on how you can make this janky approach work, if they exist, before I take the sorta obvious path.

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>>14801020
>I think I'm a better streamer than a video producer
then stick with twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>14800836
>How the fuck am I supposed to learn this?
Figure out what you want to do and find other people who do similar things. Want to "appeal to a female audience"? OK, find chuubas who do so. What are they doing differently? What do they do that you believe you can also do. how did they get there? I don't like giving "ULTIMATE GUIDE TO [TYPE OF CONTENT] because it's never one size fits all, everyone made it differently even if they make similar content. People learn from those who came before them.

That's why I just say "do your own research by studying others who have already succeeded" but people hate that because they can't just get some tips off 4chan and suddenly have 500 viewers.

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>>14801020
That's great honestly I can see either working, but my personal bias is still towards Twitch. You can probably still use those skills to create some good Youtube content since you can't just have 100% streams with zero youtube presence aside from archives, so you're in a great spot to just stream on Twitch.

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>>14801087
why are the fuck are you here shitting on /asp/ies if >do your own research is all you can offer? are you that bored getting your dick sucked as a twitch partner that you need to lash out at complete newbies here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14801066
>>14801138
Thanks guys, I've made up my mind then, gonna switch the streams over to Twitch and keep the videos on YouTube. I think doing streams on YT might've actually been hurting video visibility anyways, because a bunch of subs didn't sub for streams, so when non-streams appear in their sub-box, I think they might not bother clicking them, sorta pavlovian response thing. Maybe I can actually start bringing in money with it now too. There's no way for donors to find personal info through Twitch donations, right?

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>>14801157
>why are the fuck are you here shitting on /asp/ies if >do your own research is all you can offer? are you that bored getting your dick sucked as a twitch partner that you need to lash out at complete newbies here?

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>>14801157
Are you kidding me? "Do your own research" isn't bad advice, I'm not lashing out at anyone. There is NO GUIDE on how to do a lot of the things people ask outside of the technical help like audio, obs, and how to format your scripted content. "Do your own research" is only bad advice if it's just standalone "go find it yourself" but I'm literally explaining ways to help yourself by explaining HOW to do your own research.

>People learn from those who came before them.
>Figure out what you want to do and find other people who do similar things.

Want to appeal to lolicons? OK, who are some loli streamers who target that audience? Alright, you've found them. How do their voices sound? How do their models look? What about them do YOU like about them since you should obviously already enjoy the content you're attempting to make or it'll just be stale and fake.

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>>14801336
you can fuck off with your twitch partner high horse faggotry and shove that shit up your ass. other anon was right you are a fucking douchebag.

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>>14801297
Twitch processes Sub and Bits on their end and there's no way for people to find your info through that, but if you have a paypal you'll want to set it up for Business and make the business name your channel or chuuba name.

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>>14800577
you aren't 'allowed' to multistream but you can still do it, they almost NEVER notice affiliates doing it.

i've multistreamed 3 months to both twitch and YT as an affiliate, i get to keep my twitch payout and grow both platforms simultaneously.

just fuckin' do it. they also don't ban affiliates for it, they warn you first, then strip affiliate status and pay your twitch payout 45 days later. partners will get shit on if they try this though.

twitch is such a mismanaged dumpster fire they don't have time to hunt down noname affiliates breaking TOS

[Anonymous No.]

>>14800560
Idk where else to ask, what happened to /qa/ and why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14801397
>you can fuck off with your twitch partner high horse faggotry and shove that shit up your ass. other anon was right you are a fucking douchebag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14801297
>>14801398
Even doing this they can find your "company address" if you have to use a home address, so you'd have to set up a PO box or virtual address in order to be really safe, and even then it's a bit iffy if you found a REAL schizo. Depends how paranoid you are. Twitch is probably as safe as you'll get.

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>>14801397
How am I on a high horse? Explain what part of this isn't helpful, because it's all I've been doing this whole time

>Want to appeal to lolicons? OK, who are some loli streamers who target that audience? Alright, you've found them. How do their voices sound? How do their models look? What about them do YOU like about them since you should obviously already enjoy the content you're attempting to make or it'll just be stale and fake.

It's a literal breakdown on how to learn about the type of content you want to make. It applies to quite literally any type of content. Replace "lolicon" with "coomer", "4chan", "ASMR" "zoomer", and any other demographic you can think of and it still works out just fine. How is "research the type of content you want to create" bad advice?

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>>14801415
They raided /lgbt/, a janny/discord/tumblr/reddit colony, and our traitorous mods nuked them for it.

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>>14801514
>Even doing this they can find your "company address"
Not sure about this because I never set one, but I've done some test donos with a friend I know IRL and there was nothing about my company address in the receipt, nor theirs. I've only had this issue with art commissions where the artist forgets to untick whatever options asks for my address (assuming a delivery one) but I haven't seen it with donations before. The most I get is people's IRL name

[Anonymous No.]

>>14801559
Damn, that's overly harsh punishment

[Anonymous No.]

>i want to make x content how do i?
>if you don't already know then don't bother
>okay then how do i learn?
>look at already successful chuubas but you can't learn because it took them years
>if it took them years i can start now right?
>no because you need to already know how to do it you won't even find a guide to get started you just need to know bro
>then how did successful chuuba get there?
>they just knew how to do it bro you just need to know how to do it already and then learn over years of practice bro just do your own research bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>14801619
I believe it gets shown if you dispute the payment which forces paypal to disclose the address as part of their contact info for the dispute process but it could be I'm misinformed

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>>14801717
>>i want to make x content how do i?
> >if you don't already know then don't bother
> >okay then how do i learn?
> >look at already successful chuubas but you can't learn because it took them years
> >if it took them years i can start now right?
> >no because you need to already know how to do it you won't even find a guide to get started you just need to know bro
> >then how did successful chuuba get there?
> >they just knew how to do it bro you just need to know how to do it already and then learn over years of practice bro just do your own research bro

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>>14801787
do you feel like you're winning an argument when you do this, twitch partner chuuba?

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>>14801717
I've never said "if you don't know then don't bother", I've said you can't expect to just read a guide and go live and have it succeed. You CAN start learning right now, but going live and doing it vs creating youtube content and learning what does/doesn't work are entirely different things. Why are you intentionally twisting my words when I've said the opposite of nearly all of this? The only thing that's right is you will not find a guide on how to appeal to fujoshi. Will you find one on voice acting? Sure. Video editing? Absolutely. But these are all technical things. Content creation varies so widely that there aren't typically guides on how to do something specific, just how to make sure the thing you're doing is seen (thumbnails, titles, tags etc) which is still a technical aspect.

[Anonymous No.]

>do you feel like you're winning an argument when you do this, twitch partner chuuba?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14801958
>I've said you can't expect to just read a guide and go live and have it succeed.
no one is expecting to succeed off the bat. we're fucking newbies. i came here because i thought the owl was cute and sang good then i saw nijisanji males debut and wanted to try this myself. i want to try streaming without using a webcam. why are you shitting on everyone when we don't even know WHERE TO START? when someone suggests learning from other chuubas you keep diving in sperging the fuck out about how they've spent years practicing. practicing what? why can't you even point aspies in the direction of something to practice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14801908
That's not even me, I'm >>14801958, >>14801619, >>14801524, >>14801398, >>14801336

I don't have any reason to post wojacks because I'm not trying to mock anyone, just explain that there's no set guides to these things and you need to do your own research, and how to do that research. I don't get why that's seen as such a poor take when I've explained the process here with the "lolicon" targeted example >>14801524

[Anonymous No.]

man those s oyjaks are an eyesore.

[Anonymous No.]

Will any corpos hold auditions soon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14802091
>when someone suggests learning from other chuubas you keep diving in sperging the fuck out about how they've spent years practicing. practicing what?

using Shxtou as an example since it's fujo-related, he's spent that time practicing voice acting, audio editing, and I assume script writing unless she's got someone doing it for him.

>why can't you even point aspies in the direction of something to practice?
I do, again, look to previous successful creators. Using that lolicon example from before, find a loli chuuba.

>"Wow, that voice is great. Can I already do that voice? No? OK, I need to practice. This means I need to find a voice acting guide."

>"Alright, I've got that down, now next is the way they act. Well, I want to make content for lolicons so I probably should look to the lolicon content I'm already consuming and see how those girls act."

etc etc, while putting your own personality into it because you are an individual with your own tastes and feelings and not someone's clone.

[Anonymous No.]

Uh, woah. Kinda crazy in here but does anybody know of any Vtubers who do animation streams? I'm wondering if it's a good niche to fill and if there's anyone currently doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14802159
Most of them just debut new talent recently aside from Phase Connect who closed apps but haven't debuted anyone, so I'd guess not but there's really no way to know besides guessing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14802401
I wouldn't reduce your criteria to "vtuber" doing it, just see if anyone in general is doing it to get a better idea of if there's interest at all. The only ones I ever see doing it are usually making animated emotes or 3D animations, but try the animation tag https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/e3a6b378-232b-4ec2-9a82-86b72851e09a

[Anonymous No.]

>>14802091
>>I've said you can't expect to just read a guide and go live and have it succeed.
>no one is expecting to succeed off the bat. we're fucking newbies. i came here because i thought the owl was cute and sang good then i saw nijisanji males debut and wanted to try this myself. i want to try streaming without using a webcam. why are you shitting on everyone when we don't even know WHERE TO START? when someone suggests learning from other chuubas you keep diving in sperging the fuck out about how they've spent years practicing. practicing what? why can't you even point aspies in the direction of something to practice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14802509
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.]

>we're back to this 'debate'
I don't understand what's so hard to grasp about how it's hard to explain how to succeed as a performance artist (which, let's get down to it, that's what chuubing is)
If you wanted to get into, say, singing, you could listen to and emulate established singers' styles. In fact, many modern pop artists specifically cite a whole smorgasbord of singers who they took inspiration from. Or, you can do vocal coaching. You can watch videos on breathing or projection exercises. You can do a mix of both. Or you can just YOLO and go out to an open mic night with zero prep work and rely on natural talent.

[Anonymous No.]

is the discord as bad as this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14803124
worse

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys think twitter is worth investing time in? There's a few indies I follow that have like 15k+ but can't convert it to viewers (and actively complain on twitter about it). Doesn't seem like a good place to get watched, and the vtuber community feels really dramatic and overblown.

I've also seen a lot of much bigger streamers and youtubers etc. that just don't ever touch the platform. It seems like it doesn't really matter at all but people go hard on it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14804036
Yes, use it. Even if it's just for networking/posting updates etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14803975
color me surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>14778409
I only watch Hololive, and rarely Niji, currently. Give me some clips of smaller vtubers you like please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14804036
it's just one more social media platform you can get discovered on if you use it appropriately

[Anonymous No.]

>>14804292
Indies typically have to clip their own content (and don't) so there's really not much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14802159
Cyberlive's QnA last week has them saying they'll open up auditions early 2022 because it takes about 5-6 months to produce a wave of vtubers so they have to start early.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14803124
people are nicer but whether or not they're more constructive is another thing entirely
the public one also has some bigger vtubers like in there

[Anonymous No.]

>>14787392
Artemis, unironically
She blew up because everything lined up at the time and now she doesnt have to bother putting in effort again

[Anonymous No.]

>>14800775
I'm an asmrtist that started a few months ago with 0 experience in streaming
I honestly dont think it takes much if you have a good voice. Dont get me wrong, im sure some people worked hard for this stuff but its not always the case sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>14806819
>inb4 BUT WHAT DO YOU MEAN "HAVE A GOOD VOICE"???? PLEASE SEND ME A TUTORIAL EXPLAINING HOW TO HAVE A GOOD VOICE?!? YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE WHY AREN'T YOU HELPING ME REEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>14778409
anyone know how to improve the audio quality of a blue yet mic lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>14806996
Mic cover/filter
Turn fans off
Make sure you do put some effort into acoustics (could just be a few foam panels around your area to prevent echo/hollow)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14806390
>the public one also has some bigger vtubers like in there
do you guys run workshops or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14806895
They're either a troll, mentally unstable, or genuinely stupid. I hope lurkers are able to use the advice I gave earlier for self-research on the types of content creation they want to their own benefit if even a little.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14807127
any mic cover/filter that will do some decent good for my mic that wont bankrupt me lol?
theres so many of them that I don't really know what to get

[Anonymous No.]

>>14807391
They shouldnt be expensive! Any of the foam covers will do. They're around 10-15 dollars. I use a pop filter on top of it as well which might be overkill but the sound is good in the end (also another $20 or so. Its just a cheap one that clips onto the mic itself with a bendy arm)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14806996
Depending on your voice, an equalizer can help a lot, especially for people with a really bright timbre, which I've noticed tends to get eaten by some mics to create this really anemic, airy sound. I can give you suggestions if you post voice, otherwise I've just gotta be kinda general like
>if male, set low shelf at 100hz and gain to -inf db, females are 120hz I think, this is just to focus the output on what you actually are trying to capture - your voice
>put a medium bandwidth middle band at 300hz and cut gain by like 6-10 db, this is where the "mud" of the voice lives, stuff that doesn't really contribute anything pleasant to timbre
What you do with the high shelf is gonna depend on your voice. As far as software for setting this up, I find it easiest to run my audio through a DAW (I use reaper) and stream it to OBS with a plugin (there are tutorials for how to do this, I can try to find one if you'd like)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14807621
i am female loli

[Anonymous No.]

>>14806819
What mic do you use? I want to try ASMR but I feel like my mic is not doing it for me? sE2200a with steinberg interface

[Anonymous No.]

>>14807516
what does a foam cover do?
i think i'll get the pop filter too

[Anonymous No.]

>>14807712
foam cover does nothing, pop filter stops plosives

[Anonymous No.]

>>14807696
In terms of entry binaural mic, i recommend the duopop2 over a 3dio model its cheaper and ive heard better things about it
Asmr mics do have that raw feel to them as well which adds to the experience i feel like
I cant get into it if the voice feels overprocessed if that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14807712
It keeps the dust off and its just an extra layer of protection. Though the other anon said it doesnt do anything i did notice an improvement on my end so i keep it on!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14807219
no but that seems like a neat kind of idea
usually you just get people asking for advice and other people chiming in

[Anonymous No.]

>>14807661
In that case I would try putting high shelf gain around 2khz with as large a bandwidth as you can get, then adjust the gain until it sounds full without being harsh or piercing. That's pretty much how I set mine up, and people make fun of me for having a kids voice, so it'll probably carry over decent for a loli voice. Also can second the suggestion to invest in a pop filter, plosive consonants like puh suh fuh make it sound like you're spitting in the listeners ear if you haven't got one, and not in a sexy way.

[Anonymous No.]

when I do audio recordings on vocaroo i can sometimes hear popping sounds in the background. Idk how else to describe it but is there any way to fix it?
I have shure mv7 + steinberg interface. I don't use any audio related programs.
I also noticed that my mic sound is on the quiet side so I added a gain filter on obs. unsure if I could've handled it a better way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14808145
gonna need to give an example. worst case whatever power supply you're using might be on the verge of skipping and killing your interface. or might be something benign.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14808145
You might have your preamp gain too high on the audio interface, which tips the signal-to-noise ratio towards noise. I try to keep my analogue gain dial set to like half of max. It's usually better to manipulate digital (software) gain than analogue (hardware) gain in my experience, unless you have hardware like a cloudlifter specifically for that purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14807777
Nice quads

[Anonymous No.]

How do you handle being recognized in a videogame? Do you just say you don't know who they're talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14810651
don't lie. just be friendly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14810651
This is why most streamers will mute public/default voice chat. Could just be a person who'll be like "oh wow, [so and so]!" and then they never say another thing; could be someone who starts gosling-ing and starts ranting about how much they love you, your content, etc.; could be someone who decides to start micspamming gamer words and/or edgy content to try to demonetize you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14810728
>>14810863
I should've mentioned that i was asking from an opsec standpoint, i don't mind someone recognizing me on my chuuba account, however, i don't want to get recognized on my roommate's

[Anonymous No.]

>>14811091
So you're saying you're playing a game on your normal/roommate account, someone says "hey you sound like [your chuuba identity]"?
Yeah in that case I'd say just be like "Who? Oh, [your chuuba ID] is a vtuber? Bro, I WISH I were [your chuuba self], I'd be way more popular!" *sensible chuckle* "But nope, that ain't me. D'you really think I sound good enough to be a Vtuber though? Maybe I should try, seems like all the cool kids are doing it nowadays."
idk something like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>14811302
Yeah, it was that, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>14811091
>however, i don't want to get recognized on my roommate's
how would this ever happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14800445
I asked on the assumption that they aren't really normal women,
I guess the real question was if I should give it a try then. Are there any drawbacks?

[Anonymous No.]

>baiting twitch partner chuuba's menhera rants

[Anonymous No.]

Nightmare scenario for you:
>You're averaging about 20-30 live viewers per stream
>Suddenly someone sends you a supa or whatever the fuck it's called on Twitch
>so and so I love you! can you say "trans rights matter!" (40% flag emoji)
What do you do? You're obviously too small to "oops, lost it" like corpos can do with unsavory supas because they get so many.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14817362
how is this a nightmare scenario?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14817362
this >>14817531 but also if you really dont want to sound pro-lgbt (the absolute HORROR) just read their message verbatim and say like "there you go" instead of stating it again and directly like they probably want you to. pro-trans people can take it as implicit support and anti-trans people can take it as not wanting to start twitter drama. plausible deniability

[Anonymous No.]

>>14817362
Say nothing, refund him the superchat, ban him from chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14817362
chat reflects the streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>14817531
>>14817679
It's a statement implying a factual untruth, i.e. that there are some "rights" being denied them.
There are not.
I'm not a fan of saying things that are factually untrue, even for the sake of streaming revenue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14817766
>I'm not a fan of saying things that are factually untrue
you need to go back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.]

>>14817745
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>14817766
with my method youre just reading their message, not necessarily endorsing what they are saying. if that really matters that much to you. failing that you can just go "thanks for the donation/superchat, <name>" and not read the message if youre that autistically uptight about it.
i cant think of a more neutral/indifferent way to put it without alienating part of your audience. if you dont care about losing stream revenue because of pro-lgbt people "cancelling" you then why even ask the question? just ignore the sc/donation then and let whatever happens happen

[Anonymous No.]

Is it a bad idea to accept crypto donations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14818701
why would it be a bad idea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14819440
Lately there's a trend of hating anything crypto, i'm scared of backlash

[Anonymous No.]

>>14819512
>i'm scared
then don't do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14819512
>i'm scared trannies will protest about me getting free, tax free, non-fed money
I feel like this is just hesitation, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14819512
You should read less twitter. I'm not trying to troll or anything here either, you just really should spend less time on there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14817745
You obviously don't know how twitch and Twitter trannies work. They will go to random streams and get the person to say those phrases even if they aren't a normal viewer

[Anonymous No.]

>>14819787
how many times has this actually happened to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14819816
I don't stream yet but I've seen it happen to several chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>14819928
>I've seen it happen to several chuubas
link them. i want to see this because i've never seen it happen in the 6+ years i've used twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14819950
I refuse to be in your spreadsheet

[Anonymous No.]

>>14819987
you don't even stream. link any one of these many chuubas you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14817362
I say no and nothing happens, because people have said no and nothing has happened. You're a nobody streamer in a sea of tens of thousands and not saying "trans rights" will not get you "cancelled". Just don't do it and stop believing in the "cancel" boogeyman. No one fucking cares, same for >>14819512

>>14819816
It haven't had it happen personally but it definitely does happen, not too often but I guess often enough for /asp/ies to be paranoid over an event that will never occur of affect them in any way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14820023
There's a viewer spreadsheet nice try

[Anonymous No.]

>>14820052
>I guess often enough for /asp/ies to be paranoid
it's just paranoia. i've been following /wvt/ chuubas and /asp/ies since this thread was called /auds/ and none of them have had it happen.
>>14820084
go back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.]

>>14820098
I'm not a /pol/tard I'm just saying that it's real thing
This shouldn't upset you so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>14820154
just say "trans rights" and move on with your pathetic life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14815688
Yeah, you spend hundreds of dollars on a hot, pretty boy model you don't actually care for and make a fool of yourself trying to flirt with viewers on Twitch and LARP a otome protag or whatever while also alienating half of your potential audience (males) for no reason. Is there a reason you're suddenly interested in "the fujoshi crowd" instead of "the general twitch streamer viewer" audience?

>>14820154
It's a real thing that's a complete non-issue and happens so little that it shouldn't even be a thought. Nothing bad will happen. If you don't want to say it just say no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14820243
>Is there a reason you're suddenly interested in "the fujoshi crowd" instead of "the general twitch streamer viewer" audience?
I just thought it was something I could try to do on the side.
AFAIK Holostars aren't putting a laser focus on getting the fujos and they still get clipped by fujos doing "toutoi" when they are just being retards in a game.

>"you'll never be on holostars"
I know but what I meant is that they are vtubers that go for the biggest audience possible yet rake in some of "those" people.

>>14820187
>just say [astroturfed phrase cooked by academia and corporations that want you enslaved] and move on with your pathetic life.

[Anonymous No.]

>i don't like my viewer's idealogies
>i won't say "trans rights" even for money
>what should i do?
why do you want to keep these viewers then if you dislike them so much? just refuse to say it, refund them the money and market yourself to viewers that fit your retarded alt right white man content more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14820187
Why are trans people so angry that not everyone likes them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14820729
>"you WILL suck the axe wound and you WILL be happy"
You were so close to sounding reasonable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14820729
>chuuba feels awkward talking about sexuality on stream
>dubbed alt-right white male pig

[Anonymous No.]

>just say no is apparently too difficult for the insecure man scared of transgendered individuals
you're not cut out to be a streamer if you're this triggered by a dono message that never happens.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you so scared of just saying "no" and why is this a "nightmare scenario"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>just say no is apparently too difficult for the insecure man scared of transgendered individuals
> you're not cut out to be a streamer if you're this triggered by a dono message that never happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14821639
fuk off wojak

[Anonymous No.]

One viewer sent me their Twitch recap thing, I was their top streamer. It's only one viewer but it feels good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14822833
cute and wholesome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14822833
i saw someone post a twitch recap and while i wasn't their top streamer i was in their top 5 which made me feel really nice...
i have a guess as to who they are but it felt nice to see one of those get posted and being a top streamer for someone

[Anonymous No.]

Wave Link update reset up all my settings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14783794
When I started, I would usually follow other small accounts and interact with them; usually people with those small numbers are people also starting out
before i started interacting with /here/chuubas, most of the ones i talk to now are ones i met by talking with them on twitter/their streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>14828238
So, to be autistic about it, is it okay to pop into other vtuber's streams on your own vtuber account? Or does that seem like self-shilling even if you don't say anything of the sort?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14828401
If youre only out to make friends, dont even mention you stream. go follow them on twitter, join their discord, interact in any way.

If they're small enough, they will check you out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14828401
yeah its fine; if it matters to you that much, maybe try not having a _ch or _vt in your name? as long as you're talking with them about their stream it would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.]

Good artists that do animated emotes? (that are open for commissions) budget isn't an issue.

[Anonymous No.]

Which /asp/ie has the most ikemen voice that can compete against Vox? Only those with anime dubbing experience need apply.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14831012
Understandable have a good day /asp/ies.

[Anonymous No.]

if you're a male looking to get a chuuba design, I suggest you go to jp fujo artists. They draw the best males. You can find some of them on skima or look up male artists on skeb (might take a while to find the ones with artstyle you like, and commission them off skeb if its for a design)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14832423
I think this leads to ill suiting models for people with pretty normal voices. Not much point in being a super sexy and smooth looking ikemen if you aren't really trying to voice act one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14807732
Wrong they do the exact same thing. There videos who test all kinds of pop filter/metal filter/ foam cover.

[Anonymous No.]

I guess this is more of a vent and I kind of feel like this is the thread for it since this is where I've spent the most time I think...

I've been streaming a little over two years now, and I had a somewhat close group of friends I made along the way. When they first started, I was usually a little 'ahead' of numbers, and still hover in equal numbers to them now.

They've asked me to promote them, often, and I did. I paid for one of them to have their overlay set. I paid half for one of their models to be rigged because they couldn't afford it. We had a whole discord server where I would weekly provide numbers and games to look forward to and trends we could all do together...

One of them recently kind of 'exploded' (think 15k+ now, whereas I've been around 7k) and everyone's attitude has changed. People I thought I was really close to no longer ask to collab or hang out off stream, but instead migrate to this person who I lent a bunch of money to to get started in the first place.

they all say I helped them grow but when I asked about why they ignore me now one of them said in DMs that my numbers have stagnated and they don't think I should stream anymore. I have a healthy audience that I love and I love streaming, its literally my livelihood and my friend knew that when they told me I should stop. They also insinuated I was being selfish for not sharing my audience, but we have overlap and I let them promo their streams in my chat too. I can't win, and it hurts.

I'm thinking of starting all over but I don't want to do that to my audience either, and I've worked so long to get this far. But now I have this public association and maybe I'm hoping one of them see this and realize that they hurt me. I don't know. Maybe I just want to know what other people would do in this situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14833109
>Maybe I just want to know what other people would do in this situation.
nothing. you gave your friends money as a gift without expecting anything in return.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14833232
I don't care about the money. I wouldn't give them money that I would miss. I just feel used

[Anonymous No.]

>>14833109
What are your goals?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14833315
>I just feel used
get used to it. you'll never find true friends in vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14833333
Quints of brutal honesty

[Anonymous No.]

>>14833109
Sorry to hear that anon. Your numbers are good and some streamers will never get close to those numbers in their entire careers. Let that sink in for a second. You gave them money out of your kindness, some people are never thankful. Money can ruin relations if they're blood related to you (happened in my family)

Online "relations" are mostly like this. Rarely you'll find people out there that are actually nice and not hiding behind a mask. Sucks, but thats how life is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14833364
>>14833333
Quints of absolute bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14833109
Just stop associating with them and find new people. They said their true colors.

[Anonymous No.]

15k+ followers or viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>14833438
cope more. you will never be real friends with anyone who hides behind an anime avatar. it's a dog eat dog world in the indie scene. just wait until one of your "friends" catches a big break and they'll turn on you the instant they can cut you loose. hope you get in as a group like Elira and her girls otherwise that's the fate of every western indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14833631
>you will never be real friends with anyone who hides behind an anime avatar
why do I need to see a person to be friends with them? penpals have been around for centuries, and making friends online has been a thing for decades. i've already got friends significantly bigger than me and they somehow manage to still remain friends and talk with me.

Why do you think you need to physically be with a person and see them to be their friend? Penpals have existed for centuries and people forming strong friendships online has been around for decades now, so why the sudden change to fit your fake narrative?

I've already made friends significantly bigger than I'll probably ever be and they still remain my friends despite that when I offer nothing substantial in return (no art, no clout, no connections) simply because we've grown to enjoy one another's company the way a normal fucking friendship work and likewise I've got friends significantly smaller than me that either just didn't grow at the same rate or are just hobbyists. What's with this anti-friendship paranoia man, who hurt you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14833488
No EN indie or otherwise has 15k viewers except for Gura and Ina so clearly it can only be them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14835850
vei reaches that amount of viewers. She sometimes averages more than holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14835907
vei reaches that amount of viewers. She sometimes averages more than holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14831012
I think when it comes to ikemen voices from /asp/ies people usually point towards GoldenKenji

[Anonymous No.]

>>14835956
Vei reached it once for what I assume was her birthday, her new model reveal, or her joining VShojo so no I don't think she reaches those numbers. She does average close to the bigger holoEN numbers though, around 8k

[Anonymous No.]

Do we tell ourselves that we're doing this for fun as a hobbie because we're afraid of failure? And does that thought prevent us from actually taking it seriously and trying harder.....?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14836625
I used to. I didn't have a schedule, I didn't network outside of just making friends, I didn't collab, I didn't post on Twitter, and I didn't clip or upload anything. I can't say this without it sounding like bragging, but I was fortunate enough early on to just be good at retaining my audience for whatever reason and have friends who watched me and help me out, but when I got to the 20-30 threshhold I was afraid to start taking things seriously because what if I was already doing my best and had no shot at getting any better. It's an extremely hard mindset to break out of and it took me a year to do it, and sometime I still wonder if I've "peaked", butI try not to numberfag too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14833109
don't start over. keep streaming. and cut off those "friends". make friends in the real world, other chuubas are not your friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14838170
Remember, always ignore the paranoid anti-friend retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14838170
>>14838439
Remember, always use caution when making connections online

Reddit link but I don't care
https://old.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/qp9ksk/kohaku_nene_was_harassed_psychologically_and/

[Anonymous No.]

>>14838606
>free 3D model from a talented modeler
>he has sex with your 3D model and "sexually assaults" you
I'm so broke I'd take his models for the assault or whatever. doesn't help that he is one of the best 3D modelers

[Anonymous No.]

>>14838439
not him, not anti friends, but anon is as naive and trusting as they come and he would probably benefit from making actual friends. while there are good chuubas, there are also many opportunists. I'm not sure how he managed to ignore so many red flags.

[Anonymous No.]

Anons, dont worry. Even you can't find friends in the industry, I can always be Your friend!

[Anonymous No.]

I've thought about dropping my goal of being a chuuba and just being a clipper, anyone here has any VODs they'd like someone to go through and clip?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14841487
Just as something to do or are you looking to get paid for doing it? If you have video editing skills you probably shouldn't give that away to anons without compensation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14841628
Just as something to do, i know the basics of Vegas, but it's been a while since i did anything so i'm kinda rusty and it could be good practice

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe not entirely the right place to ask, but anyone know whether Facerig was the first vtube software?
What did Kizuna use?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14843831
I think so, i don't remember anyone streaming with a facerig avatar but i can't recall anything prior

[Anonymous No.]

>>14843831
I get varying results. The most common answer is she may have used Miku Miku Dance. Alternatively some say she uses Kigurumi Live Animator, which I believe isn't publicly available. It runs on Perception Neuron for tracking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14843831
They had in-house software for Ai

[Anonymous No.]

>>14836026
he actually sounds like one of the anime boys unlike the niji males what the fuck. why don't more anons talk about him? it looks like he's well connected with other /wvt/s

[Anonymous No.]

I want to stream with a L2D avatar right out the gate. What kind of camera/imaging device should I get/use? Yes, I am a neverdebuted 0view, inb4
>You don't need a L2D
>Bro just pngtube at first to see if it's "worth it"
>Etc.
I know all this, but I'm comfortable enough with my expendable income that I am fine 'blowing' a couple hundo on a basic model and rig, along with the hardware to support it.
I already (impulse bought) Facerig with the L2D plugin, and have a Logitech C920 (got it years and years ago). It's... okay? But should I get something with a higher resolution or better refresh rate? Or, I think more importantly, one of those cams that has an integrated light ring or something (or just get a standalone one)? Cuz something about when I open FaceRig and fuck around seems like it has trouble picking up what my face is doing, even right now in a nice daytime-bright room with a light on besides.

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>>14845852
/wvt/ doesn't like to talk about most of the earlier /asp/ies because a couple names got spammed in the thread during the early summer months which left a sour taste in peoples' mouths until new ones like Bloom and Atropa started getting posted around
he's also a great vroid modeler and has made his own model as well as some for other vtubers around here

[Anonymous No.]

>>14845976
>What kind of camera/imaging device should I get/use?
since you claim budget isn't an issue, get an iphone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14845976
>bought facerig
anon... everyone nowadays uses Vtube studio, facerig is really old
most cameras are fine to work with VTS

[Anonymous No.]

>>14846050
this. facerig development stopped several years back and they barely support live2d. the devs have moved onto a new app called Animaze but it's clunky bloated mess with microtransactions. just use VTube Studio. it's the standard face tracking app for indies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14846050
>>14846263
Well.
Thanks for that.
Yeah, this runs way smoother AND actually tracks what I'm doing. Neato. Appreciate the tip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14846050
Also, I will defend myself by saying I first got Facerig like 2 years ago, I didn't like literally just now buy it.
Unfortunately this obviously also means I'm well beyond refunding it

[Anonymous No.]

>>14846403
well yeah if you bought it two years ago then that's different entirely
VTS is just a much better program and integrates with a lot of stuff
i forget if it was shared in /asp/ but this is an example of some neat things that you can add to it (though obviously it requires an audience)
https://remasuri3.itch.io/tits

[Anonymous No.]

>>14846263
>>14846050
>>14844554
Funny thing about this actually. Facerig is getting shut down properly and for good at the end of this month. Checked when it first came up ITT and only just remembered that I had this place still open.
https://www.twitch.tv/domoarigathanks
This guy's apparently going to have the dev of Vtube Studio on in the foreseeable future btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14847191
TITS is INCREDIBLY powerful. One thing they - for some reason that entirely escapes me - don't mention is that it actually makes the model shake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14847848
>it actually makes the model shake.
isn't that kind of the entire point? it's supposed to mimic the hit registration of 3d models but with your live2d one because there's no actual collision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14848180
Yes, exactly. Hence why I'm unsure why it doesn't sell itself via that aspect above all else, because that's what's actually interesting about this product.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14845852
Ehh model and bad networking
He might be a lot bigger with a better model, this is what i mean by pay2win

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When the Niji male wave ultimately fails, do you all think it could potentially have a ripple effect on the male western vtuber category as a whole and how people perceive it? Do you think it makes it conclusive that we'll almost certainly never see a Holostars EN?

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>>14849234
The issue with niji en is that they are pandering to women
And seeing as much of the vtuber audience is male, well...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14849478
I mean, I don't disagree at all, but I still think it failing beyond a potentially decent debut week will have a negative effect on widespread perception of the category itself (regardless of what the reason why might be).

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>>14849478
>>14849234
The point is to stop squeezing blood from a stone.
A male vtuber with good numbers needs a 1 in 800 design and a 1 in a million voice (as opposed to 1 in 30 design and one in 1000 voice for a girl). That's hard but clearly not impossible.
Gay rogue boy has been doing fine all on his own, for one.
Not sure why you feel the need to bring this here though.
/wvt/ is faster and bigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14849234
we'll never see StarsEN because cover doesn't care about making a StarsEN. StarsJP existing is already a miracle.

>>14849478
>they are pandering to women
they really aren't. the males designs are as generic self insert-y as you can get with any other generic self insert male protagonist in video games, manga and anime. the male viewers that look like bara are miniscule. there are more people who would self insert as Luka, Shu or Ike than they would self inserting as someone like Banderas or Oga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14849648
Their designs and (from what we've seen so far) voices/personalities by and large lean way more into yaoi/fujo tropes than shounen ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14849738
>by and large lean way more into yaoi/fujo tropes than shounen ones.
you're just saying this because they have suits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14849787
I'm saying this because their first Twitter posts included jokes about kissing each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>14849561
I think its already that way with how many sexpest issues arise, people crack jokes about male vtubers all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>14849804
>their first Twitter posts included jokes about kissing each other
you don't joke about kissing your homies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14849804
>>14849869
What the fuck, you don't kiss your homies goodnight?

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the fact that nijimales would come out swinging with jokes about kissing each other already shows that they're secure in their masculinity and understand that they can make jokes about these topics for fun. they're not afraid of taking themselves too seriously. it shows confidence and also acts as a fuel for fanart bait. both bring in more viewers.

male viewers don't care and will hold off until they actually start streaming to make a decision. you'll find out that they're just average dudes behind anime avatars soon enough and realize their sense of humor is the same as your's and they'll be seen as the dude bro streamers /vt/ has been begging for since 2018.

don't tell me you're so insecure that jokes about kissing homies triggers your thin skinned snowflake ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14850768
>dudebro streamers we have been begging for since 2018
We have tons of dudebros and nobody wants them
Dudebros and chill with your pal males are all we have here

[Anonymous No.]

>>14850919
>We have tons of dudebros and nobody wants them
that's because just being a dude bro on its own isn't interesting. niji males have the corpo branding backing them up. at the very least >we know they have the chops to pass through auditions so they're vetted to be passably entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14851005
Aside from vox all of them are pretty run of the mill even just in terms of the voice
I dont expect much out of the ones that past lives were already confirmed for

[Anonymous No.]

>>14851167
clearly they're not "run of the mill" seeing how many males from /asp/ talked about applying but none got in. run of the mill in terms of content and entertainment is the safest choice for nijisanji since going niche for the first gen of males is a retarded business play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14851231
A lot of indies that already had it made never applied
As a result we got a lot of middle ground hires (50-80ccv)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14851282
>A lot of indies that already had it made never applied
Nijisanji only selected streamers who had already "made it" long before. the ones making since the auditions closed wouldn't have been considered. they would have needed those numbers in the first half of the year. that doesn't change the fact that just being a dude bro on its own is enough if you can't market yourself which is why all /asp/ie males suck so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14817362
>Hey please do not bring up any topics that might be difficult for other people or they might struggle with
>I'll just refund this now.
And then move on and ignore any future msgs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14851431
A handful of them were actually declining from the time they applied till now
Consider them lucky in a sense, i truly do hope they make it so we can see more males in the en space in the spotlight

[Anonymous No.]

>>14851533
Me too. Every male vtuber stands to gain something from their success

[Anonymous No.]

>Been considering becoming a chuuba for a while
>Never bite the bullet because of how expensive it will get quickly
>Consider doing just scripted videos
>Niji Males happen
>People lusting after Vox's voice
>Have a deep-ish voice myself
Now I wanna do it again, kek. I guess I'll just do the model myself then, just gotta learn how to rig.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14852934
>I guess I'll just do the model myself then, just gotta learn how to rig.
looking forward to your debut in 2024

[Anonymous No.]

>>14852962
Yup, sounds about right. At least being an artfag is useful sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14853065
if you want to be a chuuba, just start. last /asp/ie wasted all of 2021 telling himself that he'd draw and rig his own model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14853115
Yeah, I'll probably draw a still first and just start. I want to have at least something to look at. I know the task is enormous.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you feel about +18 art tags?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14853777
don't bother with them until you start getting art. it's pathetic seeing so many chuubas with even regular fanart hashtags with zero art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14853777
>not going full Beatani and having SFW art, R18 art and R18G art tags from the start

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know if Vshojo has replied to anyone who made it to round 2 of their auditions yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14854199
phase 1 wrapped up and people were invited for first round of interviews a month ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>14853065
Timing is crucial anon
Some people have only made it because of the timing

[Anonymous No.]

>>14854239
I'm asking about phase 2. They sent out a survey a month ago but haven't replied yet, I was wondering if anyone heard further.

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>>14818014
>fail
It won't, they'll all turn profit week one and do just fine advertising their company. You don't need thousands of viewers as a corpo to be considered a success and not having that doesn't make you a failure.

There's also no reason it could have a "ripple effect" on males at all. Why would anyone care if one branch of males is only getting high hundreds and not thousands of viewers, especially in a company where their top EN talent caps out at just under 2k? They know the audience will be smaller, but it's still an audience that exists and is willing to give their time and money on these streamers, especially when it comes to merch they may get in the future. To think some "ripple effect" would happen is ridiculous especially considering how many more successful males there have been this year and the numbers Kenji brought in alone that are looking at other Male chuubas.

Riikami, Kabhaal, Shxtou, Linechu, Kianen, CaptHokage and plenty of other males have been doing great this year, there's no reason some corporate vtubers not doing well would affect that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14784824
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14799463
dont buy a """stream deck""" just buy a fucking keyboard
if you want a smaller size then buy a seperate keypad
you can change the keycaps to whatever the fuck you want and it will cost less while also having more features

[Anonymous No.]

>>14860344
what hotkey software do you use since a simple to use program with OBS integration is half the reason why people use a streamdeck

[Anonymous No.]

>>14860344
>>14860410

Stream Deck integrates with a lot more than just OBS, and as someone who uses a lot of visual filters for things like transitions and other multi-layered shit nested scenes, it's 10 times easier with a stream deck. For me personally it's been more than worth.

[Anonymous No.]

paradox bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>14863851
bump limit is 310 for /vt/ threads

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that /asp/ies are cute! Cute!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14865321
which /asp/ies do you like, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah I’m bumping the thread at 300+ posts what about it

[Anonymous No.]

Before bed bump i know there are 300+ replies, i just wanted to do it

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty good thread. Thanks for being helpful and honest with the people asking for advice in here, guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14876920
It's nice to see, I feel like /asp/ has a reason to exist even when there aren't any major auditions live

[Anonymous No.]

how big of a nerf is being esl

[Anonymous No.]

>>14880444
depends on how thick your accent is

[Anonymous No.]

>>14880444
depends on if you're a man or a woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>14880655
If you're a girl, accents can easily become merely a cute charm point.