/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>dude has an oshi
>No NTR
>"I don't care about male collabs or bfs! I'm not like those incels!"
>NTR happens
>"guys...why do I feel like killing myself?"
Why are people like this. It's like they've been trained to think that that behavior is bad instead of actually thinking that
I've even seen this in Veibae Youtube comment sections about cum
Are people just too retarded to understand their own feelings?

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>Are people just too retarded to understand their own feelings?
Yes, that and they don't want to be seen as "bad"

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>>14774886
some i'll cope by being contrarians so they would get replies by those who also care, to stop feeling they're the only ones

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>>14774886
they won't admit because they're scared of women calling them out

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>>14774886
They are weak, groveling men who think the solution to all problems is to just not care.

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>>14774886
What's your point? That's completely normal.

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>>14774886
Screaming incel and unicorn is a lot easier than admitting their own human feelings and crying themselves to sleep because they apparently get off to cuckolding

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>>14774886
I don't care because my oshi is a dyke

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>>14774886
istg, this board misuses the words 'ntr' and 'cuck' way too much

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Don't tell 14777880. Let him have this. He's happier this way.

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>>14777780
It's normal to convince yourself to be and feel something you're not until it causes you emotional pain?

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>>14774886
>NTR happens
Whoa yeah it's pretty shit to listen your oshi getting fucked by someone else. That has nothing to do with male collabs, though?

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>>14779809
Either a collab has no chemistry which makes it bad, or a collab has chemistry. Chemistry between a hetero dude and a hetero girl ends up with at least some light flirting 99% of the time. It's why people feel weird about their gf or bf hanging out 1 on 1 with a fuckable friend of the opposite gender, even if they promise that there's "nothing there"
Also collabs can often feel like dates and watching a girl you like go on a date with another man is cucked as fuck

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>>14779809
>listen your oshi getting fucked by someone else
That's not what NTR is. Even if the cuck never found out it's still NTR. Heck sometimes she isn't even dating or in a relationship with the cuck in NTR, still gets used as NTR

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>>14780282
The main problem is that I just don't see the dynamics you describe in here pan out in most male-female collabs with good chemistry unless in fairly stretched definitions of "light flirting". And if unicornfags are that irrationally obsessed with their oshi to the extent they'd stretch "good chemistry" with other people as possible indication of NTR then why aren't they also obsessing over their oshi flirting with other people in the audience, superchat senders, members etc? If unicornfaggotry is the result of natural aversion to cuckoldry like IRL instead of unhealthy selective delusion then there should necessarily be jealousy around this stuff.
>>14780576
>Even if the cuck never found out it's still NTR
Using this logic then the entire parasocial vtubing business is NTR and being a parasocial vtuber fan is fundamentally cucked.

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>The main problem is that I just don't see the dynamics you describe in here pan out in most male-female collabs with good chemistry unless in fairly stretched definitions of "light flirting". And if unicornfags are that irrationally obsessed with their oshi to the extent they'd stretch "good chemistry" with other people as possible indication of NTR then why aren't they also obsessing over their oshi flirting with other people in the audience, superchat senders, members etc? If unicornfaggotry is the result of natural aversion to cuckoldry like IRL instead of unhealthy selective delusion then there should necessarily be jealousy around this stuff.
>>>14780576
>>Even if the cuck never found out it's still NTR
>Using this logic then the entire parasocial vtubing business is NTR and being a parasocial vtuber fan is fundamentally cucked.

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>>14774886
Pain is the body's way of telling us we've fucked up. When you stick your hand into a flame the burning sensation will tell you to remove it. When you fall in love with an idea the pain you feel as it's snatched away will hurt but ultimately it's for the best because such things are poison to a healthy mind

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If you have a swahjak folder on your computer... why? Where did it all go wrong

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>>14781240
All people are fundamentally just an idea to anybody who isn't them when you get very meta about it

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>>14781045
>If unicornfaggotry is the result of natural aversion to cuckoldry like IRL instead of unhealthy selective delusion then there should necessarily be jealousy around this stuff
There 100% is jealousy if they begin to prioritize one member or pick favorites for seemingly arbitrary reason. But while their jealousy can be triggered more easily it's not like it's an instant release. Smarter or more empathetic(or both) parasocial chuuba walk the line well by allowing small instances of individual fan attention for justified reasons without dwelling on one.

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>>If unicornfaggotry is the result of natural aversion to cuckoldry like IRL instead of unhealthy selective delusion then there should necessarily be jealousy around this stuff
>There 100% is jealousy if they begin to prioritize one member or pick favorites for seemingly arbitrary reason. But while their jealousy can be triggered more easily it's not like it's an instant release. Smarter or more empathetic(or both) parasocial chuuba walk the line well by allowing small instances of individual fan attention for justified reasons without dwelling on one

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>>14781808
I kinda wanna write my posts in an image to see if you would transcribe them

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Put your trust in Chuubas that if they betray the audience, it’s over for them. High stakes make for dedicated girls.

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>>14782116
Nijis don't have the "idol" crutch so the stakes are lowered by quite a bit, thus relationship between coworkers is very likely to happen (off stream) if they hit it off in a collab, especially when the most exposure these hiki vtubers get towards the opposite sex is collabing with one
Face it, odds are at least one of the EN girls will have at the very least a "fling" with one of the the gen4s, unless all of gen4 are happily married or gay. That's why no one complained when male chuubas like Maimoto or Banderas collabed with their oshi

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>>14774886
>Are people just too retarded to understand their own feelings?
Unironically it's this.
What i've found out is that like 70% of people don't know how to understand their own emotions. Like they'd be clearly angry or sad or happy or calm becuase of a certain reason but if they were asked about it they'd have no idea why.
It's weird to see those types of people.

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>>14781045
>why aren't they also obsessing over their oshi flirting with other people in the audience, superchat senders, members etc?
Because they're your fellow otaku. They're your comrades in supporting and pushing that one girl.
There's no jealousy because everyone is the viewer.
It's something deeply rooted in asian hivemind culture, definitely not something uncultured western swines can understand.

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>>14774886
It's because their engagement in the streamer-viewer relationship is an unthinking one; they take for granted that their present state is completely natural and not something that has to be maintained, even minimally, by both sides, like a fish which takes for granted that it will always be surrounded by water.
They think, "it doesn't matter what happens on stream. Somehow the streamer will make it work out, because that's what she's always done. After all, the only people who worry about this sort of thing are the obsessed gachikois, and I've never been an obsessed gachikoi. Therefore I have nothing to worry about." Not realizing that the issue about this kind of thing is more fundamental than thinking you'll ever fuck the streamer, it drives a wedge into the streamer-viewer relationship itself.
Because most male streamers are relatable and cause the audience to think they're "just like me", when one of them plays a bigger and bigger role in a streamer's public-facing life, the audience's thoughts change to "why not me", and the streamer's comparatively different treatment of viewers and the other male streamer starts to rankle. This blindsides them because it arises not from any kind of romantic interest in the streamer, but from a fundamental aspect of streaming. And so you get viewers who don't quite know why they just don't feel quite as engaged with someone's streams any longer; they feel shut out, disconnected, and eventually just drift away.

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>>14781045
>Using this logic then the entire parasocial vtubing business is NTR and being a parasocial vtuber fan is fundamentally cucked.
Correct.

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>>14781045
>why aren't they also obsessing over their oshi flirting with other people in the audience, superchat senders, members etc?
This is the most retarded argument I've ever heard, but I'll humor you...

Because other people in the audience, SC senders and members have exactly the same amount of chance to ever be with their oshi as (You), which is exactly 0%. Why would anyone be jealous of nothing?
Other chuubas (or anitubers) however have an actual chance to get together with your oshi, seeing as they're piers on the same platform

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>>14774886
Yes???? Life is a big journey of self-discovery. Among other things.