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>> No.14734802
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>> No.14734808

>>14734772
kek

>> No.14734819

Streams with over 2 million VOD views
Noel 3
Coco 2
Gura 2
Okayu 1
Chloe 1
Streams wity over 1.5 million VOD views
Gura 8
Noel 6
Coco 3
Okayu 2
Marine 1
Pekora 1
Rushia 1
Shion 1
Miko 1
Lamy 1
Chloe 1
Laplus 1
Amelia 1

>> No.14734834

>>14734772
INCLINE

>> No.14734833
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fuck... will this be ayame-like and be a buff or bad for her numbers?

>> No.14734835

>>14734772
General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

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>>14734554
>>14734666
>Oh joy, have fun with more insufferable kneel spamming.
*** KNEELS ON YOUR BACK **

>can't breath now, can you mr Fentanyl!?

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>>14734802
The true king

>> No.14734860

I love that chart

>> No.14734864

>>14734819
Wait how does Noel of all people have 3 2+ million streams?

>> No.14734873

>>14734864
You underestimate the sheer POWER of ASMR

>> No.14734879

>>14734864
ASMR

>> No.14734892

>>14734833
Who?

>> No.14734895

>>14734864
ASMR. The most rewatchable content there is.

>> No.14734906

>>14734833
Dog has cancer?

>> No.14734909

>>14734833
stream once per week plus one collab per month, enough to still be at top, make it happen manager-san

>> No.14734912

>>14734864
I relisten to her ASMR stuff a lot

>> No.14734913

>>14734892
mr. koro

>> No.14734916

>>14734833
Ah shit. RIP Korone. Yea, it's going to be a Toya/Ayame numbers buff imo, going to have to treasure every moment with eh doggo.

>> No.14734922

>>14734864
asmr queen

>> No.14734925

>>14734892
mr koro

>> No.14734929
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>>14734802
king...

>> No.14734939

>>14734913
God damn it, why

>> No.14734947

Hey number faggots guess what, nijisanji finally had a break through in Korea

https://twitter.com/rage_saur/status/1469591374505066499?s=21

https://twitter.com/ff14_hotdog/status/1470782109929582596?s=21

To the extent that they trended in Korea

https://twitter.com/gwelu_os_gar/status/1471432110611529728?s=21

And the clip to do it was gwenlu teaching ririmu maths

>> No.14734948

>>14734833
That's actually sad, I hope she's ok...

>> No.14734949

>>14734895
musicbros...

>> No.14734951

>>14734916
Wow so she will become a lazy undeserving whore.

>> No.14734981

>>14734947
>break
>twitter trending with paid topic

>> No.14734985

>>14734951
stop projecting

>> No.14734987
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>>14734802

>> No.14734989

>>14734864
ASMR, Patra and Macoto also both have 2

>> No.14734997

>>14734987
fix your font

>> No.14735009
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silverfox will get another silver today

>> No.14735027

did Kuzuha's number stabilize or is he still inclining?

>> No.14735031
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14735031

HE'S STARTING TO BELIEVE!
>GO KING, GO!

Now that bronze is guaranteed and unslippable he's striving for the GOLD
>MY PRECIOUS GOLD, HOW I MISS YOU!

Press E to give the King your energy
>only trips can stop him now!

>> No.14735041

>>14734951
>Stream once per week is lazy
Fuck off numbertard

>> No.14735054

>>14735031
La+

>> No.14735059

>>14735041
Ok numbertard

>> No.14735071
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Kuzuha finally admitted his mistakes, bros. He kneeled. Is this the reason his number is high right now?

https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1471380110259679235

>> No.14735074

Kneel posters and King posters are the same as Selenniggers and Pomuniggers.

>> No.14735076

>>14735027
Still inclining
It's over 33k now

>> No.14735081

>>14735054
live-ranking ate it?

>> No.14735100

>>14735076
He's on 27k what are you smoking ?

>> No.14735105

https://twitter.com/room_vault/status/1471436718176092165
Another Minecraft tournament

>> No.14735117

So Towa announced that huge mariocart cup in a guerrilla stream with an hours notice?
God is punishing numberfags by having a based numbers retard run their giant hololive event that will rival nijisanji.

>> No.14735118

>>14734802
>all these mario kart streams
They suddenly jumped on the fad just because Towa announced a tournament?

>> No.14735121

>>14735071
What happened?

>> No.14735126

>>14735105
Are FPS players really all they can gather?

>> No.14735131

>>14735105
>no Holo
>fps players
Of course

>> No.14735145

>>14735100
Lamy aroma

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king...

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>>14735071
>king admitted his mistakes

>> No.14735160

>>14735076
>its real
what the fuck he's at 37k already

>> No.14735164

>>14735100
why do they always lie?

>> No.14735168

>>14735076
Nijifags lying again.
He's still at 28k.

>> No.14735170

>>14735145
Fair enough.

>> No.14735193

>>14735121
>>14735071
he baited 2views to sc him so he'd shout them out as a promo. Which is against yt tos.

>> No.14735205

why the FUCK are holomems streaming over Co'onet's return stream? she would be getting 100k if not for these disrespectful pekora-tier numberfag mems

>> No.14735221

>>14735193
>He's a drama king now
LMAO

>> No.14735223

>>14735105
When will they ever realize Hololive is powerhouse of minecraft?

>> No.14735229

>>14735154
Long Live the King...

>> No.14735230

>>14735205
She said she'd MAYBE stream 2 hours in advance. If she said she'd do it tomorrow or something then people would move their streams

>> No.14735234

>>14735205
Soda...
Migo...
Okayu...

>> No.14735256

>>14735193
>Which is against yt tos.
What's wrong with yt tos?

>> No.14735264
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>>14735071
>https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1471380110259679235
What a convoluted translation. Here is a half man half machine translation, someone correct me if you see I fucked up with something

>I asked them about it yesterday, and they said there's nothing wrong with it according to any of the rules.
>But I think it may have been a little reckless so I'm going to be more careful about it now because it could have led to spam accounts or things like that.

>> No.14735272

>>14735205
this is not official return stream
she still need more time returning and will decrease streams in the future
so expect her becoming the second Ayame

>> No.14735279

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4vGvN6VDKc
Suisei's gorilla utawaku

>> No.14735293

>>14735205
Her return is so sudden, the schedule was announced only 4 hours ago.

>> No.14735295

>>14735121
Kuzuha was jealous of Holox so he tried to cheat Youtube and violated rule 10 of the ToS

use the Service to (a) sell any advertising, sponsorships, or promotions placed on, around, or within the Service or Content, other than those allowed in the Advertising on YouTube policies (such as compliant product placements); or (b) sell advertising, sponsorships, or promotions on any page of any website or application that only contains Content from the Service or where Content from the Service is the primary basis for such sales (for example, selling ads on a webpage where YouTube videos are the main draw for users visiting the webpage).

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>>14734987
Korone 37k.

>> No.14735304

>>14735264
Tl;dr: management called him a retard

>> No.14735313

>>14735230
Correct, it's also something she probs didn't want to make a big deal of (even if the fact that her health IS fucked is pretty important news). I hope this forces all the managers and talents to re-evaluate how much work they're taking.

>> No.14735332

I propose we make Suisei and all her achievements count for Nijisanji. She constantly collabs with Toko and is disconnected enough from Hololive as a whole that she can be an honorary Niji. This is all to make things fair as well.

>> No.14735339

>>14735304
lol why? did he fucked up or what?

>> No.14735348

NijiEN males likely coming this weekend
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1471450030720569349

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Don't worry Koro-san, someone will adopt you
>anytime now...

>> No.14735379

>>14735348
why are they so cringe?

>> No.14735383

>>14735295
>>14735264
kek, I love the
>they said there's nothing wrong with it according to any of the rules.
part

>> No.14735399

>>14735348
Quick, Gura, schedule an impromptu Minecraft collab!

>> No.14735426

>>14735348
does a boomer who thinks he's a zoomer runs all of nijien accounts?

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>>14735297
Korone 38k. Kuzuha seems to have stabilized at 27k for a while now.

>> No.14735434

>>14735348
Ez 30k

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Another comeback stream that Playboard isn't tracking.... all those superchats will be lost, like tears in rain

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>>14735441

>> No.14735481

>>14735348
They’re gonna go for a Christmas weekend release?
Isn’t that usually a packed weekend for Hololive.

>> No.14735511

Suzy karaoke!!! Today's silver!!
https://youtu.be/B4vGvN6VDKc

>> No.14735523

So shit, Maimoto is getting 45k+ for a zatsu challenge stream

>> No.14735529

>>14735348
Can they break 20k on Debut?
Isn't Nijisanji famous for male chuubas?

>> No.14735538

>>14735523
When?

>> No.14735541

>>14735511
Only half an hour, probably won't get silver.

>> No.14735545

>>14735348
>First EN male gen
That's big
Let's see if they can hit 180k on debut like HoloX

>> No.14735548

>>14735529
They will be the BTS of vtuber industry.

>> No.14735567
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* Nijisanji right now *

>> No.14735588

>>14735511
Sing the homo song

>> No.14735592

>>14735567
Mahiro...

>> No.14735593
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>>14735545
>>14735548
I will kneel first

>> No.14735625

>>14735348
LMAO Holobronies on suicide watch
Now we nijichads can suck cock what ever we want

>> No.14735631

>>14735567
>buff tournament they said
seems like tourists don't give a shit until the tournament

>> No.14735635

Korone not even 50k after fucking off for a month. It's sad how hard she fell off given how she's at the forefront during the boom last year. Hell Subaru was a nobody during that period but she's among the top tier right now. It's like Korone benefitted nothing from her incline while the others continue to zoom past her. Is it the lack of passion and drive or is it a case incompetency?

>> No.14735642

>>14735348
>Released near NijiJP Marika tourney
I know that it won't affect NijiEN too much but still...

>> No.14735650

>>14735631
It's practice retard

>> No.14735651

>>14735588
rent free

>> No.14735652

>>14735625
>Now we nijichads can suck cock
the absolute state

>> No.14735670

>>14735635
>lack of passion
Kill yourself right now.

>> No.14735672

>>14735651
Thanks for the dopamine

>> No.14735675
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>>14735650
sad cope

>> No.14735691

>>14735672
np

>> No.14735705

>>14735635
Korone is genuinely passionate about videogames and doesn't care about her numbers. She STILL hasn't played Doom Eternal and probably never will.

>> No.14735706

>>14735625
Hard to say since major corporate EN male vtuber had never been done before. We'll see how it goes during their debut, as long as don't do the shitty anime voice then there might be a chance.

>> No.14735714

>>14735675
seethe korone is dying and will become a whore to be able to survive

>> No.14735718

>>14735567
oof

>> No.14735721

>>14735567
>tokyo ghoul
Tourney buff, not even 30k

HOLY MOTHER OF RECLINE

>> No.14735742

>>14735714
Why are Dragoons like this?

>> No.14735770
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>recline
>decline
Reminder.

>> No.14735773

>>14735721
anykara can't pay bots anymore pls understand

>> No.14735797

>>14735770
Declining and reclining repeatedly in a consistent pattern can be considered steady.

>> No.14735831

>>14735625
Whatever makes you happy anon

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>>14735705
>doesn't care about her numbers
Or maybe she's completely incapable of getting big numbers? Remember, a coombait stream where Marine and Noel were bathing together gets more viewers than Korone's outfit reveal at one point.

>> No.14735852

>>14735635
She isn't shameless enough to tell everyone else to fuck off for her come back stream like a certain oni

>> No.14735870

>>14735846
touristchama...

>> No.14735883

>>14735846
holy newfag

>> No.14735884

>>14735348
Judging how the midget corpo male vtubers did against their girls I will say they will get between 14k-16k on debut. With Tsunderia the guys got almost the exact same debut numbers as the females.

>> No.14735895

>>14735846
She did that stream during the biggest Among Us collab hololive has EVER had. Literally kill yourself.

>> No.14735903
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>>14735256
Kuzuha starts a business to promote other vtubers with superchat. This is illegal as per Youtube ToS.

>> No.14735905

>>14735895
Pulling 26k was pretty impressive.

>> No.14735910

>>14735831
Keep crying
Go to lick some pussy holobronies
Real man suck cocks

>> No.14735922
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14735922

Kronii vs Hetto vs Laplus is gonna be an interesting race to watch. They're among the fastest and most steadily rising channels in the bottom half of the top 100, and their sub counts are already pretty close to one another.

>> No.14735932

>>14735903
So will some of them incline after that?

>> No.14735937
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>>14735903 (me)
Nips are mad about it.

>> No.14735941

>>14735910
t.tranny

>> No.14735946

>>14735922
ES chuubas are getting some fat sub number, really weird

>> No.14735958

>>14735946
They're doing the stream on Twitch then upload highlights/shorts on YouTube strategy.

>> No.14735961

>>14735910
Why are nijikeks always projecting? Can't wait for this to flopped Kek

>> No.14735976

>>14735932
only in dead subs

>> No.14735983

>>14735937
Water is wet.

>> No.14735987

>>14735937
Who wouldnt? Literally exploitation of 2views while hikakin and johnys did it for free

>> No.14735988
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>>14735895
>this cope again
Whatever fits your narrative

>> No.14736021

>>14735988
keep exposing yourself as a tourist

>> No.14736027

>>14735987
Chloe and the rest of Holox broke Kuzuha.

>> No.14736075
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>>14735922
>steadily

>> No.14736074

How come ES vtubers are so strong in numbers yet people don't want to acknowledge them? Not on Twitter, Reddit, 4chan, YT, not anywhere

>> No.14736083

>>14735910
Okay then I will. I greatly enjoy cunnilingus.

>> No.14736117

>>14735961
>flopped
Delusional holofags
This is the very first EN male gen in this market
They will explode popularity like HoloMyth

>> No.14736136

>>14736074
Because they don’t bring in money.
Nimu is one of the largest vtubers and she makes jack shit for someone of her size.

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>>14735903
King... you dissapoint me..

>> No.14736168

>>14736027
Gotta give the guy some credit. It took 2 years and multiple girls to finally break him

>> No.14736169

>>14736074
Who's the biggest ES "vtuber".

>> No.14736180

>>14736169
nimu

>> No.14736193

>>14736117
Their success will depend on their personalities.

>> No.14736202

>>14735903
>>14735937
That's so fucking tacky holy shit. This will probably blow over but what a moronic thing to do.

>> No.14736216

>>14736162
Uma musume?

>> No.14736227

>>14736117
Do nijikeks really? Myth level of popularity? this will be pretty sad if they flopped so hard LMAO

>> No.14736255

>>14736227
I'll naked dogeza if they can maintain half of NijiEN females' CCV

>> No.14736263

How the fuck does the conversation about NijiEN males involve sucking dick???

>> No.14736266

>>14735903
>PinkPunkPro
Lmfao based

>> No.14736269

>>14736193
male streamers with good personality don't turn into vtubers

>> No.14736276

>>14736169
Nimu has over 1M followers/subs on Twitch(streaming), YT(videos)....
...and TikToK(clips)

>> No.14736284

>>14736216
anon...

>> No.14736289

>>14736263
seems like nijifags are full of trannies

>> No.14736298

>>14736276
Holy shit, she is like Kizuna Ai level

>> No.14736306

>>14736269
Male VTubers are gonna need those personalities be successful.

>> No.14736307

>>14736227
Say what ever you want
Just don't kneel to me when they become the most popular vtuber gen in the world

>> No.14736325

>>14736306
they will end up leeching the girls

>> No.14736349

>>14736325
Well aren’t a couple confirmed to be Elira’s friends anyways?

>> No.14736348

Isn't what kuzuha did pretty scummy? Baiting sc from 2views who are struggling and it is likely not gonna help them at all. If he wanted to help 2views, he can collab with them like that one time. Pretty baffled what goes through his mind to even do that.

>> No.14736362

>>14736074
Well, even ES streamers aren't be acknowledged by people out of ES

>> No.14736368

>>14736074
90% of them are not even vtubers. Nimu is, but then there's parra at the top who literally just uses an anime avatar for his channel and that's it, or the other faggot who gets shilled every thread by some negro. There are some "vtubers" in the rankings who do all their streams with facecam. The nips don't even bother checking it seems and spics spam them and pretend they're vtubers. Also, most of them are twitch, which is less recognized than youtube for some reason. And they don't make money as one anon pointed out.

>> No.14736378

>>14736349
yes

>> No.14736383
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>How do we save pewds bros?

>> No.14736399

>>14735846
check the vod views on them you massive retard, korone's is only second to pekora's

>> No.14736402

>>14736383
Dead subs...

>> No.14736403

>>14736348
It must have been a brain fart, no way he needs the pittance those SCs could get him.

>> No.14736408

>>14736383
He can unironically use the VOD view cope.

>> No.14736409

>>14736383
>>14736402
how many subs?

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>>14736276
She don't stream on youtube so you will have to show your own research. Anon won't touch this with a 10 miles stick.

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>>14736162
>>14736216

>> No.14736446

>>14736349
The more I read about this, I feel like Elira is building herself up to be a sort of "Kingpin" of NijiEN, similar to a Mean Girl clique. I just hope Selen, who doesn't belong in her circle, is able to fend her off.

>> No.14736447

>>14736402
The consequence of battling against bot sub T-series.

>> No.14736448

>>14736417
>full of 10 minutes videos
disgusting

>> No.14736451

>>14736307
Kneeling to nijikeks... people don't even know Nijisanji exist and you expect the world to see this vtubers Kek, Sorry I would rather kneel to indies

>> No.14736457

>>14736255
Isn't NijiEN median around 1k-2k?
That's not hard to beat.

>> No.14736464

>>14736117
There was a startup that debuted a wave of males, but the name escapes me...

>> No.14736474

>>14736074
only Nimu is kinda strong

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Perfume merch remaining stock

>> No.14736507

>>14736457
That's how much faith I have in them.
Exactly none

>> No.14736509

>>14736136
Odd. What are the factors that usually bring in money then? If you have that many supporters, wouldn't it be natural for most of them to want your content more and would be happy to spend money to help you do make more and not have to go to a day job?

>> No.14736526

>>14736504
When was this released anyways?

>> No.14736533

Why don't EN startups just move to Twitch? The longer they stay on YT, the lower numbers they will get?
What kind of stubborn management do they even have?

>> No.14736535

No stream on Chloe's channel today so there won't be a daily Chloe update sadly, I wonder if her (insane) fans will be feeling blueballed after having virtually no chance to SC her these last two days and will explode when they can again?

>> No.14736555

>>14736526
Less than 12 hours ago I think

>> No.14736566

>>14736504
Wow, something Hololive didn't sell out in 20 minutes for once?

>> No.14736576

>>14736509
They're spics they don't have any money

>> No.14736583

>>14736566
Lamy's sold out in under one hour

>> No.14736597

>>14736509
Because these people here don't know anything because they can't speak and understand Spanish internet sphere. She might not receive many donos but she has tons of sponsors and connections.

>> No.14736603

>>14736504
999 stock?
Surprised Aki sold that much.

>> No.14736604

>>14736417
I'm assuming she's targetting the under 15 audience

>> No.14736620

>>14736533
Many of the start ups are JP invested AND people look at Hololive's tomfoolery to the top as a model to follow.

>> No.14736631

>>14736555
That's not too bad then, but heh Lamy's selling out in under an hour.

>> No.14736641

>>14736504
was anyone able to get the starting number?

>> No.14736642

Everything is possible but you gotta consider why HoloEN exploded in popularity.
>Perfect Timing (Hololive was already rising when they debuted)
>First EN Branch of Hololive
>People knew Gura she's S*nz*wa.
>Mori's music was also a great attention seeker
>Memes
>And ofcourse it was during the Lockdown during Covid's Prime


If they can retain a 3k Median then they can be considered successful. But still midgets comapred to holoEN.

>> No.14736652

>>14735264
>I apologize for doing nothing wrong
I hate these types of "apologies"

>> No.14736668

>>14736652
His hubris will be the end of him holo sister. This is the end of Nijisanji.

>> No.14736691

>>14736620
Unless they have strong gens like Gen 3 or Myth, Christmas Miracle, algo favoritism, clippers, memes, etc. I doubt they can succeed.

>> No.14736695

>>14736417
I fucking hate her new model... Seriously, what kind of mental illness does she have that she switched from a clean if rather vanilla live2d to this atrocity?

>> No.14736701

>>14736526
12:30PM JST on the 16th.

>> No.14736727
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14736727

>Announces utawaku 30 minutes before it starts
>Gets 25.8k anyway
>Leaves after 30 minutes
Sasuga Suityan

>> No.14736738
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14736738

Shame that it was only half an hour, could get to 30k+ if it's one hour.

>> No.14736750

>>14736695
Artgun scourge needs to be expunged. A the Vshojo ones are also unholy abominations.

>> No.14736752

>>14736348
Legit scummy. Kuzuha called it "direct marketing." Starts around 1:35:27 mark. This is considered "False Engagement."

The stream in question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCAOl2VNr0I&t=5907s
This is what he said:
葛葉「普通のスパチャは金額じゃないんで…売名は金額ですけどねぇ!売名はそりゃもう高ければ高いほどやっぱ…赤って見やすいなァーw」

Youtube Terms of Service 10-a:
use the Service to (a) sell any advertising, sponsorships, or promotions placed on, around, or within the Service or Content, other than those allowed in the Advertising on YouTube policies (such as compliant product placements)
https://www.youtube.com/static?template=terms

>> No.14736754

>>14736417
Eww..

>> No.14736758

>>14736631
that's cause I will become lamy

>> No.14736762

I wonder: Has any Vshojo or NijiEN members interacted with HoloJP top dogs like Pekora, Miko, Subaru, Fubuki or Korone?

>> No.14736771

Tsunderia males don't really get as much as attention as their girls counterpart. I know they are midgets but it is still one sample data. Even slugma admit males are a debuff.

>> No.14736778

https://twitter.com/RindouMikoto/status/1471190398198755329
Seems like NJU (the big free concert with a lot of nijis and the one the "nijisanji lives vs holo lives" gif came from will be on the 23rd.

>> No.14736777

>>14736168
> Gotta give the guy some credit. It took 2 years and multiple girls to finally break him
God, I wish that was me.

>> No.14736784

>>14736446
there's a reason they made selen her sister

>> No.14736788

>>14736368
https://www.twitch.tv/parravt/videos?filter=archives&sort=time
Parra still uses his Live2D when streaming on Twitch. And from looking at some of his YouTube videos, it looks like he still uses the model when recording, but he cuts it off and shows only the screen most of the time, apart from some cuts here and there when he shows his Live2D's face for certain reactions, though he sometimes rigs a 3D Minecraft model instead of his Live2D.

>> No.14736789

>>14736446
She definetly is. I feel like she was a special hire. Just look at the privilages she got compared to others.

>> No.14736792

>>14736504
towa...

>> No.14736800

>>14735706
The pandering to women/homos is probably the only way forward, there aren't many of those types around. Dudes who want to watch entertaining dudes have trillions of options.

>> No.14736811

>>14736752
Wait, what the fuck? Is he really asking for struggling indies to donate to fucking promote them?

>> No.14736816

>>14736762
No. And they never will.

>> No.14736817

>>14736597
>tons

>> No.14736822

>>14736383
He'll still get more VOD views than the others in the end.

>> No.14736841

>>14736778
You mean the announcement of it?

>> No.14736846

>>14736409
Has been stuck at 110 million for a while.

>> No.14736862

>>14736383
"he is rich he does not need subs nor viewers"

>> No.14736868

>>14736811
Yep. Even said to SC Reds so it's easier to see lmao.

>> No.14736877

>>14736789
And Elira's friends right now are not getting great numbers. I wonder what Noor is thinking right now, managing these girls.

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14736878

>>14736758
Based. I will rape by then, anon.

>> No.14736883

>>14736822
To be fair, he has 100x more subs kek

>> No.14736901

>>14736417
wow this looks like cancer, basically a vtuber version of IRL streamer shitheads

>> No.14736907

>>14736762
No and they will never.
During events it seems like Hololive asks the organizer to not have them pair up with certain people if Hal’s tourney is anything to go by.

>> No.14736914

I feel like the only reason why people stayed with Hololive is because it's a continuous slice of life anime that has different plot points mixed with their own lore and given life by their VA's personalities. Today's example, Korone followed up with a skit where she's imprisoned in a cell after she was arrested in her game.

>> No.14736916

>>14736762
you mean via twitter? at least mousey tried to, dont remember if she got a response, maybe from polka

>> No.14736919

>>14736762
I think a HoloEN x NijiJP collab would happen before that seeing as Omegatroon was sacked. Makes me wonder if any NijiJPs would ever be interested in collabing with HoloEN. The only thing I have seen to suggest acknowledgement is that Mori's and Kiara's stuff show up in Gilzaren's playlists.

>> No.14736920
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>>14736752
This one?

>> No.14736935

>>14736762
Does Suisei count? If yes then Elira interacted with Suisei once.

>> No.14736936

>>14736841
Maybe, and the concert itself might be on the 30th, but the question marks and just saying "at night" is pretty vague.

>> No.14736940

>>14736509
YouTube views still generate ad revenue. They also stream on Twitch, so they get some from there too.

>> No.14736945

>>14736752
will he get a strike?

>> No.14736956

>>14736919
Has any HoloEN ever expressed interest in NijiJP?
Sounds ridiculous.

>> No.14736966

>>14734947
>finally
pretty sad ngl. KR's mindshare is already overtaken by Hololive and Hololive lite.

>> No.14736968

>>14736940
if all your views are spics with no money the youtube ad revenue will be shit

>> No.14736974

Please stop bullying KZH, he's just a retarded Hikki....

>> No.14736978

>>14736956
>Has any HoloEN ever expressed interest in NijiJP?
No but you could probably introduce some NijiJPs to Mori and she'd just assume they're in hololive.

>> No.14736985

Lui,Chloe and La+ collab 24k GET

>> No.14736986

Lads type 수학귀신 on the Twitter search list and see what it comes up with, this shit is bizarre.

>> No.14736991

>>14736945
Nah. He already did a non-apology apology on Twitter. It's pretty much resolved I think. >>14735071

>> No.14736994

>>14736936
Yeah that sounds right, last one was on the 29th.

>> No.14736998

Whatever happened to 22/7? Are they even vtubers anymore?

>> No.14737010
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>>14736762
Not directly yet.

>> No.14737011

>>14736778
>"nijisanji lives vs holo lives" gif
Elaborate

>> No.14737019

>>14736978
>Threadwatcher

>> No.14737035

>>14736446
I really don't like it either. If Lazulight actually exploded in popularity than I would understand why management bows to her for recruiting new waves, but they didn't so to me this just feels like Niji management having no clue about the EN Vtubing scene and Elira taking advantage of that fact so she can get more of her friends in. And even then, if she actually got a bunch of game changers then it would at least be justified, but she didn't do that either. The EN scene is too fucking polluted with hacks whose only ability is to leech. They need an actual scouting team that actually knows what they're doing.

>> No.14737041

>>14736956
beggars are retarded, ignore

>> No.14737046

>>14736986
Wow....You weren't kidding the Niji guy really went viral in Korea

>> No.14737057

>>14736968
Viewers don't pay for the ad money, anon.

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>> No.14737071

>>14737035
nijiEN management is probably a part of elira's circle of friends as well

>> No.14737073

>>14736986
Goddamn he’s literally a viral sensation, knowing gwelu he’ll take advantage of this

>> No.14737079

>>14737057
If your viewers come from poorer countries you get paid less ad money

>> No.14737081

>>14737035
I wonder how Cover manages to have such good recruiters, even for the EN market while Anykara is also a JP company yet their EN recruitment sucks so bad.

>> No.14737086

>>14736991
how an apology on twitter works for YT?

>> No.14737099

>>14737086
He says the management solved it for him.

>> No.14737109

>>14737081
>Council

>> No.14737110

>>14737081
Council?

>> No.14737119

>>14736935
when?

>> No.14737123

>>14736446
>>14737035

Retarded rrat posters, this is a numbers thread not a fanfic thread

>> No.14737124

>>14737099
that makes more sense

>> No.14737145

>>14735348
Who the fuck thinks it was a good idea to post these tweets? First, UWU now all according to keikaku. That's pre-2015 animemes, the same way rage comics died off.

If they have a Light and L pairing... fuck them.

>> No.14737171

>>14737119
During Tokomachi radio.

>> No.14737173

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OGs9Q6boxU
gold on the 27th secured?

>> No.14737193

>>14737109
>>14737110
Like clockwork, Councilschizo is here kek
It's so easy to bait you.

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>>14736446
>nepotism bad

>> No.14737229

>>14737193
>Councilschizo
>you
>8 seconds difference between each reply

>> No.14737231

>>14737205
>List is incomplete
How fucking new?

>> No.14737233

>>14737173
What happened on 27th?

>> No.14737236

>>14737035
The worst case would be when Selen incline more and more while Elira and others are pretty much stale.
Like anon said >>14736446 it would be interesting to see how it'll turn out, especially when Selen isnt really into idolfaggotry. How would niji approach this since they usually push their talents for music stuff? Will they force selen to do her idol reps like kuzuha?

>> No.14737240

>>14737057
that's true, but who wants to advertise to poor countries? they're c tier countries for a reason..

>> No.14737248

>>14737171
was this what you were refering to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F38tMGkntU
if so i wouldn't exactly call that nijiEN interacting with holoJP

>> No.14737254

>>14737205
The last one is pretty bad.
Very bad actually.

>> No.14737292

>people actually shitting on korosan
Unless you're numberfagging Miko, old dog walked so your oshi could run with higher ccv

>> No.14737303

>>14737233
kanata 2nd anniv. looks like she's gonna have a 3d live, her birthday 3d live got 96k

>> No.14737309

>>14737193
I´m a HoloEN fan but you can feel the underwhelming feeling of council after what myth was.

>> No.14737311

>>14736074
Popular vtubers in US, Japan = $$$
ES vtubers is worth the same as third world SEA niggers

>> No.14737312

>>14737248
I don't know which one but Elira appears on chat. I think it's the one where they do watchalong of their newest cover.

>> No.14737333

>>14736985
Update 28K Get

>> No.14737342

>>14737333
Can they mog KING?

>> No.14737343

>>14737058
https://youtu.be/7Rf2gMW_Mvo

Almost 1k comments damn.

>> No.14737346

>>14737173
D-did cover did their 3D reps? Cause damn that 3D looks smooth and fluffy as fuck!

>> No.14737367

>>14737058
JESAS that's the kiara collab one right? suprising since the original stream got garbage views.

>> No.14737369

>>14736752
>>14736920
Can we report it to Youtube? These are proofs already. I'd like to see Kuzuha getting banned by YT, then see nijisanji falling over.

>> No.14737380
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>>14736762
Does this count? It has three members from Vshojo with Miko and Suisei.

>> No.14737386

>>14737123
We all know NijiEns PLs. Hell, 3/4 of Ethyria are fucking nepo hires. Ironic that the one who actually became the top liver of that group was an outsider (Nina). Nijisanji sucks at recruitment, there's no two ways about it. Even Council who are considered as failures here at least had SOME potential and flopped more because they don't fucking stream. No one from NijiEn has that excuse cause they stream all the time and except for Selen all of their numbers are still shit.

>> No.14737389

>>14736883
why do anons always use this ratio cope? this is a numbers thread. if anything, saying someone has higher subs should automatically be a win. some anons still use mental gymnastics when theyre clearly bad at it

>> No.14737392

>>14737346
Finger tracking as well. I think they did their 3D reps around Korone's 3D live.

>> No.14737401

>>14737380
different days

>> No.14737418

>>14737369
Calm down bro, you're treading on getting banned for asking for a raid. No one beats JPs in autism, if someone is gonna do something it will be his JP antis.

>> No.14737436

>>14737346
The homos unironically pressured them to do better, you can start from Roberu (reqlly shitty tracking) to Astel (the highest quality for a 3D event ever produced by Cover), all of their 3D debuts have been improving with each iteration

>> No.14737437

>>14737346
They still can't really track other items though.
>>14737389
>multiplication
>ratio
It's a fucking joke, anon.

>> No.14737449

>muh Council sucks
As much as I don't understand why, kronii is super popular and could get like 70% of Gura's views and be ENs 2nd star if she tried. That alone carries council hard

>> No.14737451

>>14737346
One of the reasons i'm glad that Myth's 3d got pushed back. Cover's 3D need to improve first to contain 100% of gura's cuteness.

>> No.14737479

>>14737386
There is literally nothing wrong with recs. I mean Hololive got legends and heavy weights like Korone and Pekora through that.

>> No.14737490

>>14735126
Vaultroom is basically like a clan they always invite the same people.

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>>14737451
>rhombus WILL rigg her 3D model too

>> No.14737499

>>14737436
Damn that's kinda making me excited for HoloX 3D, though I doubt the technical quality side of things will bring more viewers

>> No.14737504

>>14737312
unless suisei acknowledged her i wouldn't count that either since that would imply gura has interacted with countless people outside of hololive with how many pop into her chat

>> No.14737519

>>14737380
Pretty sure they're on different days but I might be misremembering.

>> No.14737522

>>14737498
Anon?

>> No.14737531

>>14737343
I knew when it happened the KR bros would be all over that. It was tailor made for clipping

>> No.14737587
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14737587

Take note, niji/EN

>> No.14737593

>>14736762
Idk about Vshoujo and NijiEN, but an ID chuuba (probanly the 1st SEA chuuba) was hosting some events with FBK back in 2019 (or was it 2018?)

>> No.14737608

>>14737057
ah yes, because Venezuela Petrol and Banana Republic Inc are notorious for dropping big bucks to advertise to their consumers

>> No.14737613
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I though Nijisanji is going viral in Korea right now.....

>> No.14737633

>>14737479
The difference is FBK actually knows entertaining people that can be recruited. If she recruited a bunch of flops for gamers than you just know that she'd get shitted on for it. Call it another showcase of Yagoo's stupidly OP luck but him hiring Fubuki and Fubuki actually knowing some really entertaining people is not even comparable to Elira.

>> No.14737643

>>14737587
What is there to take note for EN? Nijisanji needs to be more worried.

>> No.14737649

>>14737173
Always has been

>> No.14737651

>>14736877
Too many eggs in one basket. Having 2 Elira picks is the limit. Recs are fine but don't make a talent the go to person.

>> No.14737660

>wamy 10k getto

>> No.14737665

>>14737499
The quality is already getting better on it's own, now it all depends on how BIG the talents want to push it

>> No.14737678

>>14737504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtzc_rIp7lg&t=2522s

>> No.14737685

>>14737613
LMAO this is just sad

>> No.14737699

Was Rushia a nepo hire too? If so, by who? I heard she didn't audition but nothing else, and she is a SC monster so that was definitely a good pick.

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14737705

Oh nyo

>> No.14737706

>>14737643
>Single POV for a game instead of 4 fucking POVs for no reason except $

>> No.14737723

With Covid-19 Omicron being more dangerous than Delta, will we see another lockdown period, thus increasing vtuber viewership again?

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k..king...

>> No.14737751

>>14737705
Holy shit. Is Kuzuha gonna get pushed out of the Top 5 again?!

>> No.14737761

>>14737705
>>14737726
Curse these Holox whores... Kuzuha probably

>> No.14737771

HoloX is really efficient at box pushing, putting La+ and Sakamata in Lui's channel.

>> No.14737782

>>14737633
Korone and Okayu didn't start out great and Mio almost killed the company.

>> No.14737783

>>14737726
King... Stop playing debuff and get back to apex

>> No.14737796

>>14737761
After that e-begging for money from indies, I have no respect for this guy

>> No.14737800
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https://twitter.com/treevillage_jp/status/1471480620761358345

>> No.14737814

>>14737613
It was supposedly a Twitter meme or some shit.

>> No.14737816

>>14737782
its ironic that mio is close with aqua considering she killed her streaming career

>> No.14737828

>>14737699
Don't know. Noel(?) and Pekora got scouted by cover. Flare and Marine applied. Rushia is either a nepo or was scouted since she was at least somewhat known back in NND.

>> No.14737859

>>14737699
Probably just go scouted like Miko and RBC. HoloJP sometimes scout the talents themselves when the applicants didnt meet their requirments

>> No.14737884

>>14737613
>>14737685

Check Twitter first dipshits >>14734947

>> No.14737896

>>14737800
Abe please open your borders, i have plenty of money to spent.

>> No.14737898

>>14737035
I really hope they stop recruiting friends of friends and they learned from their mistakes considering the way wave 3 flopped. NijiEN actually has a lot of untapped potential, they just need to get a better Recruiting + Marketing team that isn’t cringe.

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>>14737771
>i must save Lui-nee!!!

>> No.14737942

>>14737800
That said, do Nijis have 3D costumes?
I figured they’d at least have them for their top streamers seeing how much money they dump into their tech.

>> No.14737948

>>14737898
In what way exactly does NijiEN have potential.

>> No.14737953

>>14737783
Are you seriously calling marika a debuff? And when there's a tournament soon?

>> No.14737973

Nijisanji is a debuff

>> No.14737981

>>14737884
Check your ass first puta, your culo just got whacked by my cock you cum for grey matter

>> No.14738010

>>14737981
The fact that you didn’t fact check first proves that you have brain damage

>> No.14738014

>>14737942
Mito does at least.

>> No.14738026

>>14737800
Hololive is always so random with who they pick for these sponsorships. The entirety of gen 4? Mel and Choco?

>> No.14738033

>>14737884
>twitter
kek

>> No.14738045

>>14737942
The top talents that produce album have two additional custom for their 3D (idol outfits and concert outfits). Deron has 3 or 4 i think (aside her default one)

>> No.14738051

>>14737782
Korone definitely didn't start great but even her scuffed debut was more entertaining than Ethyria's debut that got overshadowed by Selen. You know it's bad when the only thing you can remember is some purple dragon constantly dunking on these literal whos. Okayu and Mio's was okay (at least by the standards of Vtubing at the time). After all 3 of them debuted, it didn't take long for them to establish their niches and show their talents. Ethyria, went from being possibly NijiEns singing Wave to being known more as the SC reading/watchalong wave.

>> No.14738054

>>14738026
Gen 4 is front and center of this sponsorship due to anniversary.

>> No.14738057

>>14737953
everything is a debuff if king isnt winning

>> No.14738060

>>14738026
The one with the lower view will do non gaming sponsorship. YaGOD will it.

>> No.14738063

>>14738010
The fact that you think Twitter means anything proves that cum leaks out of your cranium, kay hon

>> No.14738077

>>14738033
Check the number of rts for each tweet, type 수학귀신 in the Twitter search bar and then comeback to me again.

>> No.14738083

>>14737884
LMAO after all this year huh, while HoloEN just collab through a debuff game.... not to mention twitter really? Did they gain at least an audience in livestreams Kek

>> No.14738095

>>14737953
Yes he should play maikra instead

>> No.14738104

>>14738051
I’ll give Millie and Nina some props, they will do everything to wring out every last dollar from their gachis.

>> No.14738112

>>14738063
So you’re gonna erase the fact that number threads were fixated on tweet interactions? Lmao.

Numbers are numbers fag

>> No.14738114

>>14738077
>he's still at it

>> No.14738115

>>14738051
The fact that 3 other members came to help Korone while Selen is just fucking sitting there giving her unnecessary opinions to newer gen is a problem already. I don't think NijiJP even does that.

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>>14736535
I fucking hope not. 70% of the the dumb orca's content consisted of SC reading. She's tanking her numbers hard.

>> No.14738146

>>14738112
Numbers are numbers when it gets high where it counts, which is YT where they stream fucker.

>> No.14738166

next some retard is gonna start posting bilibili and tiktok "numbers" here

>> No.14738168

>>14738077
Jesus, how smooth brain are you?

>> No.14738173

>>14738115
The fact that they held these "watch along/interview" during debut is already retarded from the start. Wonders who's idea was that

>> No.14738176

>>14738115
>Hololivers try to save each other and make sure the new talent makes it through
>Nijisanji mems are literally put in position to trash debutants

>> No.14738178

>>14738146
You’re cracking me up, now the off chance that nijiniggers have a chance in Korea means that now tweets are meaningless? Loving every laugh holobronie

>> No.14738181

>>14738126
HOPEFULLY now that she's through her goddamn monetization SCs her manager sits down with her and figures out something moving forward, because reading EVERY SC completely is not sustainable if she continues to get them at the rate she does.

>> No.14738190

>>14738178
And I will laugh when after this "viral sensation" is over, you Nijisanji will gain shit from this.

>> No.14738205

That twitter video had about 200k views, pretty sure gura's kr clips already beat that easily on youtube.

>> No.14738207

>>14738178
Lets just see if those tweets will has any impact on their korean branch where it matter most

>> No.14738212

>>14738173
Probably Noor from that fail Nijisanji IN. Maybe she has a grudge on Anykara for trashing her branch so she uses her position as a manager to give shit ideas to sabotage NijiEN.

>> No.14738217

>>14738178
You fucks did not deserve Bora.

>> No.14738241

>>14738178
>Just lose Bora and he thinks they will incline kek

>> No.14738260

>>14738241
I mean, that's some optimism or he is just a troll. I doubt NijiKR will matter much after this blows over.

>> No.14738262

>>14738173
What I don't get is the NijiEN fanbase. I watched the first set of debuts and most people thought the idea of having a debut stream watchalong was dumb as shit but the idea was partially saved by Finana having a panic attack and not debuting as the last leg in the company's debut into the EN market the same day they changed their name. Most people thought it was still retarded for the second one too. Now it seems like they all love it. I don't get why.

>> No.14738264

>>14738207
May be if everyone start doing math streams like ollie.

>> No.14738323

>>14738262
Well, probably sunk cost fallacy. They are way too invested in NijiEN now, so any criticism for NijiEN is a no-no for them now. If they don't like it, they have to pretend to love it to keep the narrative going.

On the talent side, this whole watchalong thing is nothing but hazing in disguise, just to show the "newbies" who is boss is around and discourage new ones from moving ahead.

>> No.14738346

Why did Ayame earn more than Nene and Korone's return stream?

>> No.14738349

>>14738262
nijiEN fanbase likes to brigade and gaslight everything. If you dont agree with them you're ebil trying to sabotage their astounding success.

>> No.14738412

>>14738346
Ayame cried on stream.

>> No.14738417

>>14738323
I doubt they're gonna haze the new males. It's more that Ethyria is gonna be cats in heat for them. My predictions for their models is gonna be some edgy, manhwa looking ass models with Kagami/Leos face because that's what the girls want and because manhwa is hot right now.

>> No.14738455

>>14738417
They need at least one bro male if they want a chance of doing well.
Then again, a bro male would just be a facecam streamer.

>> No.14738481

Man the schism that will likely form in the NijiEN fandom if the male Vtubers start to outperform the female Vtubers is going to glorious

>> No.14738483

>>14738417
More like some Kpop shit, because models like Maimoto, Yashiro or even Vincent wouldn't attract shit.

>> No.14738505

>>14738481
The Holo side wouldn't want those elitist asses back anyway. I wonder where they will go.

>> No.14738534

>>14738455
what if it's for privacy?

>> No.14738551

>>14738505
Prism, Kawaii, Phase Connect or Tsunderia?

>> No.14738589
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Can confirm that manhwa males are top shit right now for characters. Their tweet is gonna be something with a detective lore but of course, in the end, their designs can't carry their personalities. Detective gimmick is already Watsons, peak detective lore at that, not murder mysteries but myth mysteries while being a time traveling gremlin.

>> No.14738598

>>14738551
if they were true hipsters they would have been with those already

>> No.14738611

>>14738262
NijiEN fanbase are 90% ironic holofags with the mentality of hippies that think niji is cool cause it aint mainstream. They act like they've known nijisanji for years after watch that Mito youtube-kun clip once and then shit on hololive with "muh creative freedom" when they know shit about both group.

>> No.14738619

>>14738589
Replying to this one >>14738417 and the upcoming nijiEN males

>> No.14738627

>>14738551
Jesus, these small fanbases will have do deal with a bunch of gatekeepers. I pray for them.

>> No.14738671

>>14738611
Nijisanji fans and AEW fans, name a better duo

>> No.14738715

>>14738534
Can be done without facecam already. Also, if that fucking dork oroboro can stream souls games and be successful than looks are not going to be a problem for male streamers either. There have been so many content creators who were fat, nerdy, hicks or only streamed using annoying voices and they all found success despite of this because they were entertaining. NijiJP was lucky since streaming was late to take off there and coincided with the rise of VTubers so they became a normal part of the medium instead of some weird niche. The same cannot be said for the west.

>> No.14738740

>>14738611
As I've said before, there are naught more fervant devotees than the converted. Doesn't matter if they're doing it for hipster reasons, they'll see the board burn for their cause if they had the manpower for it.

>> No.14738794
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>>14738483
>Maimoto
>Yasashiro
Hololive girls have more female fans than they do. NijiEN would be doing the wrong thing for going after dudes who want dudes to chill with.

>> No.14738810

>>14737205
half of these arent even true

>> No.14738846

Fubuki, once again on the hunt for the elusive golden Magikarp. Already at 21k only 8 minutes in.

>> No.14738895

I just the realized that the HoloX collab ban is ending just in time for the Mario Kart Tournament

>> No.14738920

>>14738846
Her numbers are increasing daily. The peak she will get when she finally catches it is going to ridiculous.

>> No.14738928
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>>14737205
MERU-SAMAAAAAAAAA!

>> No.14738937

>>14738551
I watch vtubers from those companies too but the fans aren't really bad. I mean they can get pretty fucking schizo, like beafag schizo, but otherwise they're chill.

>> No.14738943

>>14738895
Them being in the picture didn't clue you in?

>> No.14738960

>>14738895
It's ending perfectly for the new year ending stream. I think that is going to be the first stream where they interact with their senpais.

>> No.14738965

>>14738937
Imagine now, that the ironic unicorns that ARE present in NijiEN flee I'd the girls go all teeter with the nijiEN makes. It'll be terrible.

>> No.14738968

>>14738920
I don't think she'll do better than Pekroa's peak at Jump King though.

>> No.14738985

>>14738417
I'll say that Millie and Nina stirs away or at least makes an attempt to put a clear divide between them and the males. Those two are too focused on milking their gachis and I doubt that they're dumb enough to risk it. Then again Millie is a flip and flip women have an innate weakness for white foreign dudes.

>> No.14738998

>>14738965
Honestly makes me wonder how the more GFE/Yuri baiting of the girls will interact with the male wave.
There’s a difference between interacting with a male from another branch and your own I think.

>> No.14739003

Okay, Hololive Mario Kart is just announced. ID1 is not participating, number prediction?

>> No.14739009

>>14738928
I-is this marine? Is that how her back looks like? This is probably the first time i've seen it

>> No.14739015

>>14738920
the peak will be too brief, its too easy and fast to capture magikarps

>> No.14739033

Do westerners even like ikemen type of characters? Even in anime, you have far more normie type of main male characters than ikemen types. Majority of mainstream normie anime consist of normie looking main male character too excluding may be sao.

>> No.14739074

>>14739033
>Do westerners even like ikemen type of characters?
More or less. Connor made his whole career out of cosplaying a brit butler of sorts.

>> No.14739104

Does it hurt for Nijisanji to let at least one or two member from their international branches participate in big event? Looking at Hololive big events, they always include EN and ID.

>> No.14739111
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>>14738846

Today is the day, i can feel it, my nipples are tingling

https://youtu.be/a718WNo892c

>> No.14739113

>>14738998
Oh definitely. It'll also be a good way to judge if separating the debuts of the guys and girls was a prudent decision in the first place. Although, I have to say that Nijis debuting the males this soon after ethyria failed to increase their base audience is a really bad move that could backfire on both wave 4 and wave 3.

>> No.14739120

>>14738985
Whoever stay clear or at least minimum from the males will inclined the hardest in the long run. Lize is the prove of that

>> No.14739135
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>SUSAN PAID 3 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS
OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
>I CAN'T SNEED
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

>> No.14739136

>>14738671
What's the VTuber version of the cult of Cornette?

>> No.14739156

>>14738965
There are unicorns in NijiEN? They collab with blokes a lot though. It could be like Bae's gachi, most of them claim not to be unicorns but what hurt them wasn't that Bae was collabing with a guy, it was about how happy and shy she was. I think gachi will be fine as long as they don't act too wierd.

>> No.14739179

>>14735567
decent views for a small indie company

>> No.14739181

>>14739136
Narukami for Meltzer and Nux for Cornette.

>> No.14739206

>>14739181
Kek

>> No.14739211

>>14737884
nijis stream on twitter?

>> No.14739216

>>14739156
>There are unicorns in NijiEN?
Anon, NijiEN is HoloEN lite, they fucked up in their initial drive for an audience and ended up tapping on Holo discontent for their seed.

I doubt they can pivot out of that without losing that first audience

>> No.14739230

What's the point if NijiEN hiring from the same clique if these peole dpn't bring anythibg new or revolutionary?

>> No.14739249

>>14739181
Does Nux constantly shit on Nijisanji and Niji fans?

>> No.14739259

>Haachama only 4k
Minecraft debuff is real

>> No.14739283

>>14739230
That's a silly take. "Vtubing" is not about bringing revolutionary stuff (otherwise Ame and Haachama would be at the top instead of in the mid to low tiers).

The whole trade can be summarized in
>do something your audience wants to watch and do it consistently, at a set slot and with a set frequency

>> No.14739290

>>14738205
It's a clip.
see >>14739211

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>>14738178
any day...

>> No.14739311

>>14739259
It's almost midnight in Japan and Haachama is for the longest time "winging" it with late night guerilla streams

>> No.14739326

>>14739230
Nijisanji just needs to exist in the market with stability. They have that. Male vtubers are the new market to help them incline. The biggest fuckup was debuting 10 girls before one guy.

>> No.14739341

>>14739259
>>14739311
This stream is so unplanned it is not even on holostats for some reason

>> No.14739355

>TOP WINNER OF DECEMBER 2021
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream
7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu
8) Shion (Hololive) - 89,072 - Birthday 3D
9) Mori (Hololive) - 89,923 - Outfit Reveal
10) Toya (Nijisanji) - 89,652 - Niji Mario Kart Lottery&Rules
11) Ame (Hololive) - 74,496 - Outfit Reveal
12) Gura (Hololive) - 112,093 - Outfit Reveal
13) Ayame (Hololive) - 99,651 - Birthday 3D
14) Chloe (Hololive) - 31,961 - Evil God Korone
15) Pekora (Hololive) - 69,956 - Announcement
16) Korone (Hololive) - 38,596 - Return stream

>> No.14739365

>>14739216
I'm taking a grain of salt on thinking that NijiEN fans are unicorns since unicorns aren't that common in the west and they know what they signed up for.
> NijiEN is HoloEN lite,
I don't watch them but I don't get that impression.

>> No.14739381

>>14739326
If these guys don't bring numbers, you can kiss NijiEN goodbye

>> No.14739385

>>14739355
FBK's current stream started before midnight. It will count for today?

>> No.14739400

>>14737011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-TH-AT4YiI

>> No.14739406

>>14739381
I doubt they would fold. I really do. Maybe they won't incline from it or wither but I truly doubt it would cause a branch shutdown.

>> No.14739412

>>14739283
>do something your audience wants to watch and do it consistently, at a set slot and with a set frequency
Nah, that isn't true. If it were, most nijis would've been big already especially the guys who keep playing buff games and games that Holos doesn't have perms off. What they lack is a sixth sense for anything that could become viral and a plot line.

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>>14738346
she didn't. playboard missed more than half of Nenes return streams scs.

>> No.14739430

>>14739355
Nijisanji got fucked this month. This is so bad for them. If NijiJP can't grt big numbers these days, what even can NijiEN do? At least HoloEN can get gold and silver in some good days.

>> No.14739443

>>14739365
>since unicorns aren't that common in the west
It's more common (in the vtuber audience) than you would think.

>> No.14739452

>>14737205
>another episode of sea schizo doesn't know what nepotism means

>> No.14739465

>>14736877
did we ever get confirmation that Noor went into management other than the mention that she was at the interview for NijiEN?
Kinda feels sad, she had a pretty good model and personality, she could've been an A-chan type figure for Nijisanji...

>> No.14739476

>>14739412
That's what happened when you mass hire members. You don't take time to consider compatible personalities and how they will help the brand. Cover has that and they are successful.

>> No.14739478

>>14739385
Nah, I'm different than daily chart anon. I only do streams before the day. Even if she starts the stream before midnight, the numbers would be cutoff at that point for me if it's already midnight. She doesn't have the momentum to hit 38k before it.

>> No.14739481

>>14739443
Is it? I mean there are loads of western holofans that aren't. Mori still has as many gachikoi as ever and Bae's gachi have increased.

>> No.14739485

>>14739443
>It's more common (in the vtuber audience) than you would think.
I agree, they just aren't vocal in the west because they don't want to get shamed

>> No.14739520

>>14739355
Even with HoloX debut buff it's a great sign of Hl's health that in 16 days they have 9 different talents taking gold. They not only have the top talents, their 2nd/3rd string would be the ace of most other companies. That's a massive, massive wall for any competitors to overcome.

>> No.14739527

>>14739311
Even gura minecraft can't break 15k yesterday, Holo minecraft is dying and they're going back to ARK

>> No.14739564

>>14739406
They won't fold. That just dumb doom posting. They're still the 3rd biggest En group and Nijis most successful overseas branch (barring VR). If they do fail however, they would be akin to a treadmill team which is only slightly better. Not good enough to really incline but not bad enough to fold or get given more support since they're technically doing "great".

>> No.14739579

Akai na....

>> No.14739600

>>14739476
This. How do you even box push when you have so many new members in such a short amount of time? Nijien is doomed to fail too if rikku sees how profitable en is and introduces another 10 wave next year.

>> No.14739617

>>14739481
>I mean there are loads of western holofans that aren't.
Vocal unicorn are a minority both on JP and abroad. That's not even the question, which would be
>are lonely men in search of a surrogate companion overrepresented among the "oil barons" that make for the most revenue of these girls?

The answer could be a "yes"

>> No.14739649

>>14739600
The problem there are tons of talents it's clear no one really gives a shit about. HL is careful to keep a culture where even the midgets are respected and collab with pretty much everyone on occasion. I don't think that's something they can fix at this point

>> No.14739656

>>14739527
>DYRBI: the post
At least make better bait.

>> No.14739680

>>14739600
Cover brought out gens 1 and 2 in the span of 2 months. That seems to have worked out in the end. They only added FBK's friends after that.

>> No.14739703

>>14739485
To be more clear it's simple as this:
Where there are gachikoi, there are unicorns. Even if they aren't voval about it, even if it's not intentional, it simply is bound to happen.

>> No.14739725

I'm very surprised at how well liked HoloEN fanarts are. There are so many with over 10k likes, and some notable ones approaching 30k as well. Most of them are from JP, TW and KR artists. There are a few SEA artists but so few from Western ones.

>> No.14739759

>>14739181
>Nux
Nah, they're nothing alike.

>> No.14739771

>>14739481
It's not about collabs with men, it's about about how those collabs went by. Calli collabing with trash taste and rikka was something that's more on the profession related stuff (interview, song collab, and shill). As long as the girls dont throw flirts around or create weird sexual tension then all is well for the gachis.

>> No.14739798

>>14739680
>Cover brought out gens 1 and 2 in the span of 2 months
Wut? Mel debuted in May 2018, Haachama and Matsuri debuted in June 2018, Aqua in August, Subaru in September.

There is a HUUUGE gap between debuts for the first two gens which were not even "generations" in the modern sense

>> No.14739845

>>14739649
>>14739649
>I don't think that's something they can fix at this point
They can fix it by simply not repeating the dame damn mistake every time they enter a new market... and yet they do it every damn time.

Let's face it, AnyColor doesn't give a rrat's ass about their talent and to them it is just a way for them to get rich quick more than it is to create a sustainable business that both the guys at corporate, the talent and their periphery (the fans). Even if we ignore the Yumenographia debacle, there's still NijiINv1>NijiENv1>NijiINv2, NijiKR and even their DLsite debacles, all in the span of about a year and a half.

>> No.14739866

>>14739798
>Hololive adds 10 members between May and September
Good expansion
>NijiEN adds 10 members between May and October
Bad spam

Unless you're retarded you wouldn't call hololive a failure. Like NijiEN they weren't top dog but they were there.

>> No.14739911

>>14739866
It is spam when they already have over 150 livers, Holo was just starting back then

>> No.14739966

>>14739680
The industry was way too different back then to use that as a 1:1 comparison. It'd be like comparing basketball pre-3 pt line to the current game today. Not to mention Hololive had Sora who may not have been as big as Mito or any of the 4 kings but was still considered as one of the more popular chuubas at the time to lay the ground work for them. They also got lucky in hiring FBK, not-yet-fully menhera Matsuri, and Aqua who was their first truly breakout star. I would have more hope for NijiEn if Nijisanji actually showed that they were good at scouting, but since they're not then the chances of them recruiting an FBK, Aqua, or something akin to Gen 3 is insanely slim.

>> No.14739988

>>14739911
Let's be real, outside of Hana, which was long past her prime, none of the Nijisanji talents mattered to the west. NijiEN was fresh for Nijisanji. It's the same thing. Hololive added the same amount of people in a shorter period of time and they weren't on top from the start.

>> No.14740037

>>14739866
Anon, you are 100% missing the point.

Back when Gen 1 and Gen 2 debuted the previous meta was
>"solo chick" Project
Kizuna AI project, Sakura Miko Project, Sora, Roboco, pretty much every streamer that debut back them were their own thing.

I recall when I found out about Aqua (one of the first Holos I ever saw, after only Haachama but I didn't even know "Hololive" was a thing back then) and I had zero fucking idea Fubuki was in the same company, or that there was even a "company" behind those cute anime girls.

It was very disruptive when the whole "Hololive resistance" thingy on Minecraft highlighted the fact those girls were part of a "whole".
Today? If you don't give even a couple of months for a debutant to find her spot she won't just be swamped by the EXISTING other 150 streamers from both major companies: they will get overshadowed by the 3, 4 new ones you just pushed your whole machinery to highlight

>> No.14740047

>>14739481
this is numbers thread, unless you come in to state the reality that hololive has the best numbers because of unicorn ideals being upheld then shut up

>> No.14740074

>>14739988
not really, it's not just about the nijis anymore, it's about the over-saturation of the market, pushing it further will just make it worse for them because they don't have enough time to establish solid fanbases, you have trend hoppers that will only watch the new toys

>> No.14740102

>>14739845
This. Anykara doesnt wasnt built by their talents. They were and ARE a tech company in the end and THAT will always be their priority. As close as niji's staff with their talents are, they are still not under the same anykara's umbrella since the talents are not employees and will not be treated as such by anykara itself.
Hololive on the other hand was bread and butter that save cover from going down. Sora's knocking at their door and many miracles and lucky incidents that happened after are all a group efforts from the talents and the corpo. They are one entity hence why the box pushing and the way they treated the talents go extra miles

>> No.14740110

I wonder why Hololive doesn't do its own manhunt stream. All it takes is one hunter and one speedrunner.

>> No.14740114

Fubuki 40k.

>> No.14740144

Akai na 40k

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40k
40k
40k

>> No.14740208

>>14740110
Do you want those schizo dreamstan bullied your oshi into graduation anon?

>> No.14740231

>>14740110
no one in Hololive could be considered as a good speedrunner in standards

>> No.14740253

>>14740114
>>14740144
>>14740164
Holy shit. Fubuki is unstoppable.

>> No.14740295

>>14740164
Did she get any gold by endurance?

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