/#/ Numbers thread

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[Anonymous No.]

>>14535921
Of course they have
Their channel analytics have more detailed info than any run of the mill numberfag site.
However, what it don't have is global ranking and is there where numberfag sites enter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14538389
General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

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Previous: >> 14527509

[Anonymous No.]

Duh: >>14527509

[Anonymous No.]

>>14538415
That only proves comparison to others is what drives a lot of numberfagging.

Imagine thinking vtubers not being concerned about numbers unironically.

[Anonymous No.]

14K waiting
pretty much the same as last day
40k peak is my bet

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara before strart : 14,117
...A little bit higher than the Susan one

[Anonymous No.]

We should separate male and female numbers. It's not fair to compare the two equally since men have it much harder.

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>>14538921
I think it was 13k last time.

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>>14538977
king...

[Anonymous No.]

>Flare is the runt of Gen 3
>Kiara is the runt of Myth
They should get about the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14538977
What about nonbinary numbers

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara going to beat ina she has no overlap and is in her usually time slot. I'm thinking 67K ccv.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14538977
feminism but for men. when are we gonna talk about the vtuber gender pay gap numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539052
Flare "new costume" reveal was almost at Mori level, despite it being a rework of her base skin only. I will be surprised if she even get half of flare.

[Anonymous No.]

anything over 40k for Kiara and I'll be surprised

[Anonymous No.]

Any bets on gpu choking again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539194
Maybe Kiara can beat Flare on SCs then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539194
>>14539201
anon you're honestly delusional if you think she'll get below 40k

[Anonymous No.]

>15k already started
key arah...
>>14539194
i predicted 100k, it was a good funnel nonetheless and much better than the holomyth's reveals

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539052
Flare base unit update was more hyped due to it being public knowledge on how much Flare hated her old one.

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>>14539194
>rework of her base skin only
It being a rework of something everyone knew she hated and that was taking forever to finish was a buff. Stop repeating this shit as if it wasn't.

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I think she will drag this shit out for a long time so her reveal can be buffed by people waiting for the Jackbox collab

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>>14539194
Falre alwasy HATED her base model.
She almost cried anouncing the update becasue how happy she was

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539194
Why would a completely new design that is her BASE be a debuff vs a new outfit? Stop being a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539052
Flare absolutely mogged Ame and Ina though...
If kiara gets 60% of Flare's numbers today its a massive success in her case

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539276
New Flare hype is much like new Nene hype, Nene breaking 110K made me very surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539483
>>14539276
Why did she hate her base outfit? Was it because of the zhang resemblance?

[Anonymous No.]

Just notice that we can check ccv in 15 s interval on Holostats

[Anonymous No.]

What was Ina's peak yesterday?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539264
It's sitting at 22k after 13 minutes...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539643
Her bountiful and shapely titties pissed off Susan, lizard face, and the rigging was a crime.

[Anonymous No.]

This is pretty good for nijisanji en. It shows even with hololive overlap they have their own soild fanbase for events.

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>>14539643
because it was horribly ugly and had bulbasaur eyes

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539643
No, it showed too much skin
This new design is probably a compromise where they couldn't change the skin tone, the elf ears and ponytail, but they covered the character in white clothes

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>>14539817
Honestly can't tell if this post is ironic or not.

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>>14539776
anon, it's an outfit reveal
Do you not understand how outfit reveals work?

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>>14539817
seems ok for her. But i thnk seleen and elira were higher

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539264
just wait and see, have the copium close just in case a miracle doesnt happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539643
She didn't change the skin colour that much and the outfit wasn't particularly zhany. Her face looked a bit lizardlike though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539643
Unironically, it was too revealing.
That's why she completedly abandoned her og outfit the moment she got her second one.
As you can see, these update doesn't have boob window and the skirt is longer.

[Anonymous No.]

i'm happy HoloEN is reclining, send those cg e-girls straight to vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

15 min passed, still a little bit higher though. (~500)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539817
Apparently this isn't the main bday stream, otherwise it would be odd for her to be so below Petra's. She's just milking her fans, already made $3.5

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539900
It peaks when they reveal it and then go down. But it's still low numbers right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539817
>a victory for NijiEN
1.6k
>a disappointment for HoloEN
64k

I do think NijiEN is doing slightly better and HoloEN is reclining but the gap won't be matched. HololEN will have to get to 2k before the overtaking happens rather than NijiEN becoming 10k livers.

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>>14539900
yes you draw them out and the number gets bigger...

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>>14539909
anon, I understand that you don't like holoEN but this is the numbers thread, and however much you seethe and twist things it's not going to affect how the numbers in outfit reveals work.

[Anonymous No.]

hmm Kiara will never beat Ina with that numbers.
She still is the worst even with the incident that could have boost her

[Anonymous No.]

25k get for Chicken!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539775
63k

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540078
Better than you thinking Kiara will hit Flare numbers.

Flare like triples Kiara's median CCV. I think she's about 13k for the month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540214
if kiara reach flare's numbers
that would mean she's inclining...

[Anonymous No.]

30k
35k at best
All the outfit revelas suffered from a decline and Kiara got the least CCV on the first one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540214
>Better than you thinking Kiara will hit Flare numbers
Said no one ever, we are talking half Flare's numbers and that's 40k

[Anonymous No.]

60% retention will make number around 42K
Kiara should not have more tourist % than Gura?

[Anonymous No.]

After 20 minutes
Ina: 37k
Kiara: 26k

So maybe 55k tops in a most optimistic scenario? Unless there is an extreme amount of tab in at during the reveal..

[Anonymous No.]

>Starting the Myth collab an hour after Kiara's reveal instead of 15 minutes for the funnel

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540396
Jackbox collab being in 1.5 hours has a possibility of causing some weird effect.

[Anonymous No.]

Millie's streamlabs donations Someone just dropped a whole stack of $1000 right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540274
just turn in your numberfag card now, you fucking suck at this

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540441
Ya boi needs to sleep a bit more

[Anonymous No.]

+50% ccv when entering reveal part seems common

[Anonymous No.]

30k in coming

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540557
streamlabs takes a very small part of that as opposed to YT doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

If Kiara got the same % amount of CCV in this as Ina/Ame she should peak at around ~55k

Lets see if she got the most tourist after Gura or no

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540718
10% yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>Mori shows up for Gura
>No one shows up for Ame, Ina, and Kiara

U N I T Y

[Anonymous No.]

Putting in for 55k for Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540718
Yes. Unfortunately it cannot be numberfagged effectively as it only shows the top 10 donators. NijiEN is possibly matching holoEN in the donation game if you include it.

[Anonymous No.]

I'mma be conservative and put in 50k

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540757
Ame showed up with Kiara and Kiara for Ame.

[Anonymous No.]

I completely forgot about Kiara's new outfit lol
How bad is it going?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540494
Why? People rather tuned it to see Kiara's new outfit from Jackbox collab? But yeah, the collab was originally the only thing today for Myth's new outfit.

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>>14539494
>>14539511
Seriously. Flare got an entire new Live2D model. I'd argue that is a much bigger deal than an outfit reveal.

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>>14540757
HoloMyth have no unity, they're streamers just grouped together on decent terms. As much as this thread despises HoloCouncil they have way more unity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540845
Did she?
Did she show up at the start?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540850
You haven't missed it - yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540883
People shit on Council, but they do seem more united than their senpais.

[Anonymous No.]

30k get

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540757
Kiara was at every reveal, just check hololyzer.
Gura : https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/supana/fH2L5O8CmOM.html
Ina : https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/supana/ND3ai2gSipc.html

[Anonymous No.]

I really hope Kiara reached, at least, 50K.
I wouldn't want to see her going full menhera if her viewership for an outfit reveal is even lower.

[Anonymous No.]

Mori finally showed up. I'll take it back!

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>>14540991
People hate Council due to the breaks, self nerfing, and debuff games. Hell, Council gets along better with Myth than Myth does. Hope too. They had potential.

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>>14540998
She is probably the one of the lot that really wants unity, since she was a holofan before she got in.

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>>14540821
Well, if we want to include those, both Risu and Ollie have had 1-5k$ streamlab donations in some months.
More than we had for some whole months in SC for them.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone has watched Dola streams lately? Any updates on Niji Seeds 1 about whether they're quitting for good this coming Feb?

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>>14540998
Everyone but Gura was at Mori's reveal too
And Mori & Kiara were at Ame's reveal
I'm not sure why anon post stuff who can easily be checked

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540576
She is up. Gura needs to move it one hour for the funnelling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541101
Last night MC stream showed that they still have the potential and the audience. It's up to them to improve their situations.

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>>14541119
Or she knows the unity and box push is how Hololive's bread is buttered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540862
Her face is literally the same as her schoolgirl outfit, its just now her vanilla.
Its built from that model so no its not an entire new Live2D model.

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>>14540998
I know a lot hate on Kiara for various reasons. However, she really is the one that steps up and does a lot for the good of the gen. Ame and her really do try to push MYTH forward.

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>>14540757
WDYM? Mori was in the chat, despite her very long hours these 2-3 days.
Or do you mean something else.

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>>14540757
Mori
> Bae, Kiara, Ame, IRyS nd Ina
Kiara
>Ame and Mori
Ame
>Mori, Kiara and Ina
Gura
>Kiara, Ame, Mori, Shion and Kronii
Ina
>Kiara

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>>14541101
self nerfing... how?

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>>14541262
That's one of the few things I'll put down in the positive column for her. She tries. To bad I get filtered by her voice in like 2 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14539254
Flare got $32k, that's not happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541320
I know some of them showed up, but this makes it sadder. WTF.

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>>14540883
So Myth just like JP1 >>14541101 and Council like JP2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541262
>Ame
You mean naked dogeza to Cover for real models to use in VR studio Ame?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540557
A teamate by the looks of it? NijiEn audience really is holoEN fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541344
Shit schedules, taking too many breaks not choosing enough buff content. Kronii has been avoiding Minecraft despite it being by far her biggest draw

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541344
Not using their talent for the most part, poor choice of content, not going for the numberfag way but the lazy way.

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>>14541344
>Fauna
Rarely playing on main server
>Sana
No consistent drawing streams
>Mumei
Not removing the limiters, she's still a little awkward on stream
>Kronii
Shitty schedules

[Anonymous No.]

A lot of coping already, well coping might be unfair, but some realism. I get the feeling she has fans here.

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>>14541101
Council was together behind the scene like 6month before debut to create this unity.
Myth didn't get that time. Also they have less personal project than myth so they can pass more time together.

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>>14541433
I recall Teamates being the most disloyal fans in HoloEN.
Early on they would constantly jump at any new vtuber and then ditch them months later and come back to Ame.

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>>14541433
NijiEN is just holoEN/Vshoujo-lite, they are not doing anything noteworthy in changing the landscape of vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>Kiara streaming new outfit reveal
>More people talking about Council than Kiara
Kiara...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541528
Forgot to add, Kronii woukd play and do a bunch of stuff in Minecraft off-stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541433
nijiEN is just holoEN's waiting room

[Anonymous No.]

Im changing my prediction to 45k, 55k seems too optimistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541562
hate to agree with this but it's right, they just pull so much worse numbers than Holo/Vwhores

[Anonymous No.]

I just noticed that Orca is having an SC Reading Part 3 stream.
This will make her gachis loyal and more generous but will kill her CCV. I guess she really is HoloX Rushia.

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>>14541452
I heard a lot of people mentioning Kronii's fans is the reason she doesn't want to touch minecraft that often, why? Fans sabotaging their oshii sounds so stupid.

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>>14541433
>>14541562
>NijiEN is stealing paypigs from holoEN
lmaooooooo take that L holobronies

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541602
She is not even 35k and is talking, so nothing to note here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541562
NijiEN are the vtubers you go to if you like HoloEN but wish they were more involved with indie vtubers like traditional twitch streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541384
That... that actually makes sense

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>>14541550
Sana seems to have done some merch. Myth probably poisoned them by telling them that sponsorships/merch makes the money and to take it easy. What Council needed to know is that showing up and streaming keeps audiences watching and reading SCs keep loyal fans engaged for more memberships. Council is in a more competitive environment than Myth had and even though everyone else are midgets midgets can add up.

[Anonymous No.]

The Myth outfit reveals numbers were all around a major disappointment and the JP6 girls' debut buffs have run out of steam with even the orca unable to get 20k viewers on a big buff game like Pokemon anymore. Hololive's time is over.

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>>14541806

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541320
UNITY rank
Kiara 4 points
Mori, Ame 3 points
Ina 2 points
Gura 0 points

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541667
is mostly that they sperg out when kronii is catched doing shit off-stream in minecraft even after they told her that they would watch her do anything in MC and kronii agreed with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541433
are you basing that solely on their name being hichichic or do they show up in ame's streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541806
this surely will be the end of hololive this time, this time for sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541806
>Hololive's time is over.
I want to believe that you actually believe this.

[Anonymous No.]

It's growing! Come on 35k where you at?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541667
She played a lot of Minecraft off stream, people asked Kronii to play more on stream so they can watch her progress so she stopped Minecraft entirely for a month to spite them.

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>>14541806

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541713
More like if you want a discount Holo you can groom up. The advantage of NijiEN over Holo is that your SCs are worth more due to lack of competing viewers.

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>>14541806

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>>14541672
That's the spirit! Nijisanji are still in it. It's good to keep a positive attitude. Never give up!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541995
speak of the devil

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542069
Oh no... its XX:45 allready..

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542029
>>14542055
kek

[Anonymous No.]

Fire up your Fitbit KFPs what are you guys doing kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541528
>>14541452
The worst one is probably still that week when everyone knew Kronii was playing Minecraft non-stop... and she only streamed it 1 day that whole week.
The next week she had 6-7 appearances on other people's MC stream showing that indeed she was playing it non-stop.

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>>14541672
Merch and sponsorships make more and HoloEN is notorious for trying to suppress SC culture. NijiEN does very well for themselves but they still can't touch the HoloEN members that encourage SCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541433
almost all of the NijiEN gachis are HoloEN gachis who got bored of Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541806
HAHAHHAHHA
>111,535: Gura (Hololive)
>85,365: Flare (Hololive)
>63,491: Ina (Hololive)
>43,436: Pekora (Hololive)
>42,106: Marine (Hololive)
>39,373: Miko (Hololive)
>36,950: Iroha (Hololive)
>31,946: Subaru (Hololive)
>28,066: Fubuki (Hololive)
>25,173: Marine (Hololive)
>22,952: Kronii (Hololive)
>22,667: Laplus (Hololive)
>19,785: Laplus (Hololive)
>19,352: Okayu (Hololive)
>17,966: Chloe (Hololive)
>17,466: Suisei (Hololive)
>16,262: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>14,908: Lui (Hololive)
>14,736: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,443: Mito (Nijisanji)
>13,247: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,806: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,460: Mio (Hololive)
>11,994: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,774: Ange (Nijisanji)
>10,954: Kanata (Hololive)
>10,742: hololive (Hololive)
>10,241: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,013: Lize (Nijisanji)

HAHAHHAHHHA

[Anonymous No.]

I follow every member of hololive and not one mention of this stream on my timeline. Well every member except Kiara and Ollie, but my point still stands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541602
A real sad thing is that Chloe's superchat reading is the only other stream currently going, and she's slowly inclining. Not by much but it's still happening.

[Anonymous No.]

okay kiara, just like we practiced, take it slow and drag it out as long as you can

[Anonymous No.]

stalling too much?

[Anonymous No.]

I think 50k is possible for the chicken

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara isn't going to crack 50k

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542403
Whoops her hands slipped

[Anonymous No.]

40K incoming

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542426
Shark with from 90 to 112, it's still possible

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe we set the bar at Flare to be too high NijiEN bros.

[Anonymous No.]

41k on my end. Anyone has anything higher?

[Anonymous No.]

I actually can't handle these numbers, this is so pathetic it's making me sad. Fubuki beats this fishing for majikarp for fuck's sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542782
42k now

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542782
We gonna start counting up now? Or we could not be retarded and wait for the peak

[Anonymous No.]

She is milking this reveal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542839
I watched matsuri's live the other day. I can handle this, I am a big boy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541201
Wait, what?! This better be a fucking rrat! Seeds 1 has Sister Claire on it! No fucking way she's quitting, right!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542925
GOOD

[Anonymous No.]

Is she gonna take 20 mins till she reaches her head ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542839
That's an unfair comparison. Fubuki is currently inclining due to a bug in the algorithm boosting her channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541666
Rushia doesn't do SC reading streams. Tanking her median with several SC reading streams is more of a Watame thing, if you're going to compare her with one of her senpais.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542925
You can smell the desperation not to be the only EN under 50k

[Anonymous No.]

It's struggling to reach 50K

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543002
this new cope is fucking incredible

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542925
Like her life depended on it

[Anonymous No.]

Not directly numbers related, but this is already way better than any of the guesses.
Which might lead to better numbers in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542884
You realize you're inviting people to do it to annoy you now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542950
>buying into old rrats
I know that you guys don't actually watch vtubers, but come on, guys
>>14543002
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543088
it's called falseflagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542884
Yes. Youtube fucks itself up sometimes, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, she's showing 1cm every minute

[Anonymous No.]

45k

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543112
You realize no one has and the only one that has annoyed me is you replying to me for no reason right?

[Anonymous No.]

Yes chimkin, do it very slowly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543205
GOOD GOOD JUST LIKE WE TALKED

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara needs 50k to save at least a little bit of face.

[Anonymous No.]

4 min

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543166
>Youtube fucks itself up sometimes
Is this meant to make sense in the context of what I said or you just saying random shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>went for some ribs
>still below the face

[Anonymous No.]

she's not gonna make it to 50k

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543351
3k more

[Anonymous No.]

50k she looks cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543351
She needs 49500 dumbfuck. do the math properly

[Anonymous No.]

Did they increase her bust size compared to other outfits?

Yes, this is numbers related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542839
Kek. I hate that this is true. Fubuki had 48k fishing

[Anonymous No.]

She is gonna blue ball people and end with 49k

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara drag it out a bit more, make it to 50k at least.

[Anonymous No.]

She's determined not to fall below 50k

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god this is sad

[Anonymous No.]

She's dragging it until 50k kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543710
It's barely rising anymore at nearly 48k

[Anonymous No.]

She will hit 80k.

[Anonymous No.]

Nooooooo.... we didn't get 50k, bros.

[Anonymous No.]

>dont leave yet
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.]

>don't leave yet
kek, everytime

[Anonymous No.]

it's over, graduate her already

[Anonymous No.]

Rip 50k

[Anonymous No.]

TURN YOUR WASHING MACHINES ON KFP's

[Anonymous No.]

"Don't leave yet!"

[Anonymous No.]

>Don't leave yet
>Numbers already dropping
damn

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara's height: 165 cm
Time spent teasing: 14 Minutes
Speed: 11.8 cm/minute

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543672
No I do not believe so

[Anonymous No.]

"Don't leave yet". It's like she doesn't understand how reveals work, of course people are gonna leave.

[Anonymous No.]

48 382 at peak...
Kiara you can't even reach 50k

[Anonymous No.]

>48,382
So close yet so far

[Anonymous No.]

These are pathetic numbers KFPs. At least the outfit looks good.

[Anonymous No.]

So around 70% again

[Anonymous No.]

Huke did it. He unfucked Kiara's design. She might actually be able to incline if she uses this as her base

[Anonymous No.]

I hate that Kiara is the only numberfag in holoEN is like some monkey pawn shit...

[Anonymous No.]

i'll stay.. i guess..

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542272
funny that the same thing is happening with jp, nijis gachis are jumping to holox

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543994
Once you clear the top of the head it's impossible not to drop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543733
>>14543768
>>14543784
She tried...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544054
to be fair people leave really fast

[Anonymous No.]

KFPricks must have it hard, these days... I feel kind of bad for you honestly, I used to watch her last year but I quickly became annoyed by her.

[Anonymous No.]

Final peak.

[Anonymous No.]

I won't leave kiara

[Anonymous No.]

She'll incline when she starts singing just wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544248
anon....

[Anonymous No.]

43k now ohno

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544082
The outfit is one of the bests. The background art is also good. Did you notice the scenes behind it?

[Anonymous No.]

God i hate her voice so much but ill keep watch for Myth Unity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544107
Despite being a numberfag she sucks at numberfagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544091
True, from the silhouette it looked ridiculous
but it turned out to be top 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543088
>>14543115
How else would she go from ~5k Phasmo streams to suddenly over 30k doing the same shit? Even her Pokemon card opening was boosted heavily but I haven't figured out why yet

[Anonymous No.]

As a numberfag, I feek morally obligated to abandon this stream now. For shame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544091
Her stage voice is still grating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544222
Kiara already on suicide watch.

[Anonymous No.]

Summing up the new outfits the recent days:

Ame
74 496 ccv - 1 550 000 subs
= 4,8% of subs

Ina
63 491 ccv - 1 300 000 subs
= 4,88% of subs

Mori
89 923 ccv- 1 830 000 subs
= 4,91% of subs

Gura
112 093 ccv - 3 600 000 subs
= 3,1% of subs

Flare
85 365 - 825 000 subs
= 10,3% of subs

Kiara
48382 ccv - 1 270 000 subs
= 3,8% of subs

Kiara got by far the most tourists after Gura in Myth confirmed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543672
Kiara, Ina and Gura are still the same size
Ame got a buff and Mori a debuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544107
She doesn't numberfag, she just cares about numbers and hopes they fall out of the sky.

Also Gura was numberfagging too, it's unfair to just roast Kiara for it.

[Anonymous No.]

So a drop from previous outfit reveal of ~22.7k or ~32 % down.
Can't remember the other % for the rest of Myth, but I think it was roughly in that ballpark?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544091
I don't think her design is the reason people don't watch her...

[Anonymous No.]

> Please don't leave yet
x2

Oh god

[Anonymous No.]

KFPs need to pray that she gets gold today.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara : 48,382 / 68.04% of the first outfit

[Anonymous No.]

P-P-Please dont leave yet.....

[Anonymous No.]

Thinking that this could have been a 44k stream 2 days ago makes all this a bit better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544522
But mori's is still the same tho? they just dont move as much compared to her previous outfit

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544576
It plays a significant role and you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

Do we have a number comparison of the ENs 1st and their 2nd costume?

[Anonymous No.]

What was Kiara's previous record again?

[Anonymous No.]

Bro, how can these corpo vtubers compete against this indie? Look at this legendary ratio. What a role model!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544239
>I was not watching it

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone who thought she could beat Flare needs to kneel. Will this even medal? Gold seems impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544645
She wont, Ayame has a 3dlive or a 3dconcert.
Christ 48k isn't even safe for silver now days if the stars align for one of the big names.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544645
Anon are you retarded or did you just forget about the streams scheduled today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544516
what were last times numbers again?
interested in the relative differences

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544816
Isn't that the third time already that you're promoting yourself? Stop that please it's embarrassing..

[Anonymous No.]

She only lost like 10k viewers from her top.
Those are way better numbers than Gura. It just shows how much of an entertainer Kiara is, managing to keep people staying after the outfit reveal!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544878
it also depends on the jackbox meeting

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544527
>She doesn't numberfag

Crying about some songs not getting more views is called what then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544857
No if Gura's collab and Ayame's birthday stream are there. Hell, even Peko or FBK could steal the medal from Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544816

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544986
Cope, KFP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544878
Forgot about that. RIP HoloEn. Going to get mogged by Hiatuskiri

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544527
Cunny gets the numbers
Loose pussy whore doesn't
Loose pussy whore deserve to be mocked and stoned
Cunny deserve her own branch
Is that hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544986
stop bro... its already over...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544986
It's not like she had that many people to lose lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544697
She asked for a debuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544651
How does that 68% compare to the others

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544857
>>14544878
Unless it gets postponed Ayame's definetly taking gold.
Either Fubuki or Marine's vs Pokemon is taking silver and i don't know if there's any Niji event tommorow, or if Pekora's still palying some hype Pokemon for bronze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544986
People that watch kiara are pretty dedicated, after all they choose kiara over anyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545112
Beggar

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545272
Fair enough, I give you that one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545267
>or Marine's vs Pokemon
She had 23k peak yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545250
About the same as Ina and Mori. Ame got ~75% and gura ~59%

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544527
>"Karaoke until i catch up to Ina's subs numbers"

Eternally BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

this is not the egg thread

[Anonymous No.]

Gura : 112,093 / 194,140 / 57.73 %
Mori : 89,823 / 135,527 / 66.28 %
Ame : 74,496 / 101,843 / 73.15 %
Ina : 63,491 / 90,965 / 69.80 %
Kiara : 48,382 / 71,108 / 68.04 %

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544697
They're visibly smaller, 1.5 or even 2 cups smaller.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay so this is why the collab isn't immediately after the reveal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545268
50% of those are deaf people anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545398
Definitely better than what I expected.
About to break 1M Yen

[Anonymous No.]

Special annoucement for the collab. Christmas event or voices?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545412
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

in other numbers news

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545464
My guess is more merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545133
Imagine if her set 3rd position gets mogged by her oshi the day of her outfit reveal? That would be hilarious in a way ww

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545267
I doubt Pekora is doing Pokemon tomorrow. She's done her revenge stream now, captured quite a few legendaries. I don't know what else she has left to do at end game.. But she could also just do something totally random that might get a high peak.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijifags pretends to be ENfags
>Post retarded shit and pathetic cope
>Reply to those posts, calling it pathetic
>Repeat

Desperate are we?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545412
either prior to her if not for sure after sticking along with her for too long

[Anonymous No.]

1M Yen Get for Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545268
KFP are mentally challenged, although it seems more of a good thing in their case since they are the most loyal out of all the fanbase. Gura's cumbuds and Teakeks on the otherhand rank near bottom of dedication where is only around because of Blue cunny big number and the other mental retardation but actually a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545482
We are clearly inclining, those are good numbers for /pol/ too so it's not like it's a slow day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542248
It's so funny how now merch became argument for holofags considering the historic argument about merch before lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545482
same as it ever was

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545398
>muh ratio

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545482
Can't even reach 300%. Shame on you KFPs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544966
As long as retards still think that CCV has anything to do with subs, I'll keep posting these 2views. I can put more efforts and show other 2views, but when the retards who keep associating CCV with subs don't bother improving their brain, why should I?

[Anonymous No.]

All these eggs are seething that Kiara is going to win gold. Ayame going to lose cause if you compare ayame to matusri. Matsuri 3d live got around 40k viewers and Ayame an little bit more popular so I'm thinking 45k viewers. Which led Kiara to winning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545398
>Ame declined the most
>Gura declined the least
Is so ironic
Gura viewership is mostly tourist while Ame's is mostly goslings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544431
>>14543002
>>14542839
she's literally playing the gacha part of the most popular media on the planet, of course people (specially japanese people) want to see what she pulls from the packs (has a precedent of streamer luck) and want to be there when she finally catches the thing she's being trying for so long, i count myself among those who don't watch Fubuki at all, except when she started doing this, though i tune into Flare when they are together

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545569
So about 15k$ combined for the 2 reveal streams

[Anonymous No.]

>tuned in late
>has dumb prop blocking most of the outfit for the last ten minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545464
Many holomems think VCs are cringe, and they are. Probably meant for a 3D announcement but it's probably gonna be something gay like a collab event.
>>14545603
Nijifags were always in the right with that argument though. Holofags were just coping. Polka agrees, so does Watame.

[Anonymous No.]

>Orca is at 14m SC
>Only 12 days of December have passed
S-sugoi...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545746
Yes! It could be more, since we know Hololyzer takes a while to properly update.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545551
actual numberbros are a very small minority sadly

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545398
So the question is if the 30 % drop is the same viewers who just up and left. As in the overlapping tourist/casual fan base. I doubt it is 30 % from every streamer so to say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542272
You guys don't realize that a lot of nijisanji fans in general are ex-hololive fans that got bored or straight up began to dislike hololive? There's many that began with nijisanji or older vtubers but then there's also those in the west who began with holo and changed into nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545731
...anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545571
They really are a special bunch, afaik havent seen any other fanbase yell in others chats that they should collab with their oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>Suisei Phony 3M get
Tick tock cima

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545551
>be a holofag
>spend all day thinking about nijisanji
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545267
>or if Pekora's still palying some hype Pokemon for bronze.
Pekora is late stream or no stream today, according to her. Also I think no Pokemon this week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545739
The part about being good at zatsudan keeps people interested. I feel like an idiot everytime she brings up anime I watched decades ago since I start clapping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545758
> Polka agrees, so does watame
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545731
anonchama?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545731
Do you have trouble reading numbers, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545731
>Ame declined the most
>Gura declined the least
Anonchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545731
based retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545731
lel

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542272
Easier to groom a 2view than a Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545731
Do you even understand simple math anon?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545724
nice bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545731
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545731
>Numbers thread
>Not good at numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545673
It does doesn't it? Subs are your theoretical market cap to how much ccv you can gather. Of course there are factors like people who watch but doesn't sub, but this can only deviate so far from the main sub count.
Of course it's true that subs won't matter if the vtuber has an awful ability at pulling the people into watching them live, but it's stupid to disregard it too.

[Anonymous No.]

Realistically speaking, looking at the schedule it really doesn't seem like JP has anything planned today that could beat Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545787
At this point I wonder if her interview went like this:
> So what can you do?
> I'm extremely good at extracting money from lonely men.
> How good?
> I will make you millions.
> Say no more!

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/fg0YRiHiJkc
Can this beat Kiara?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546104

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545881
>be a nijifag
>spend all day thinking about how to shit on Hololive

Btw, i just opened 4ch today when Orca started SC Reading.
Maybe you're the one whose here all day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546164

probably

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546164
No, it'll be around 30k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545758
>Nijifags were always in the right with that argument though.
Towa mogged Lize when it came to merch sales. So yeah nijis lost on that too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545731
the average /#/ poster

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546164
Oh...
Oh yeah, it was right in out face all along.

I thought it was on Kiara's channel.
Possibly no though, even with the new outfit and Gura channel buffs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546233
Sauce?
I don't doubt it but I'm curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546233
That was this year. Most Nijifags use arguments concocted in early 2020.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546164
I almost never watch EN, but fuck it, I'll watch it just to help it take that gold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546042
It doesn't.
> market cap
False, there are streams with CCV above their subs. I won't spoonfed you since you only saw that 66% pic a few times when I've posted that multiple times. Newfag like you need to learn how to do your reps.
> Of course it's true that subs won't matter
> but it's stupid to disregard it too.
It's not stupid to ignore stupid takes. Next you're gonna say that twitter followers can translate to CCV / youtube subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545746
So...Mori's and Kiara's outfit reveal are the ones which crossed the 10k in superchats from myth even with the decline.
Last time Gura's was the most superchatted one...it shows the tourists are leaving and the gachikois are settling with a myth girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545398
Another prediction - outfit collab :
JACKBOX vs PUMMEL PARTY (46,349)
70% : 32,444
Gura's previous JACKBOX : 32,257

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546233
Lize's merch probably cost pennies to make. Twaperino's and Coco's cost way more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14542248
so holoen -> nijien = muh merch cope
nijijp -> holojp = muh merch cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541201
What hints were there for them quitting? I watch NijiJP sometimes but I don't know shit about Seeds.
>>14545731
"Median is the lowest number" anon is back!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546324
If that was so then Kizunafags can come in and argue for their queen too. Nijisanji lose again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546390
Yes, but Hololive is really doing well on merch so it isn't much of a cope. The cope you use doesn't mean the cope is wrong, it means you don't like a fact and are using something to make you feel better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546390
Nope, NijiJP fags use my merch cope and holofags just proving them wrong.

Hololive is dominating, accept reality

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546318
Someone posted old archives a few threads ago. In which one anon had pulled numbers for both niji and holo from their sites. Full set numbers for Towa were like 3000 and for Lize they were 2000. I don't remember the other numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546358
> PUMMEL PARTY
Was it Gura on channel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546476
What is up with Niji? They are losing high profile Nijis left and right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14545943
The porcentage part is how many viewers they lost from their previous outfit reveal
The higher is, the bigger the lost.
Or do you have something to add?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546535
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vltsTKKqzBo

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546535
Yes, one day after the last (Ame) reveal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546521
Tower got about $400k total, Lize at about $130k
Tower isn't that popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546390
NijiEN doesn't even have any merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546358
I will guess at least 35k at least? The roster is stronger and the outfit buff, it's a drag that full Myth can only collab at this timeslot though

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546656
There is an special announcement on that stream.
Chumpedos do not care for collabs but everyone will tune for the special announcement.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijifags thought they can get away by lying.
Desperate are we?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546602
go back and read it again

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546602
Anon, you must be shitposting. I'm assuming you're just dumb, so I'll draw for you.
Ame had 100k. From those, 73k watched. She has 73%. Do you REALLY THINK that she lost 73%, or maybe, just maybe, it's the case that 73% of them watched it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541201

You mean like just dissolving the group or most members straight up quitting? If the latter.. oof. Yashiro, Dola, Ryushen, Chaika, Claire..

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546521
Looking deeper in that thread is pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546567
Are "high profile Nijis" even a thing other than Silverboy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14541201
That must be a rrat from a slimey SEAnig's asshole. That would not look good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546746
73% of the original 100k who watched the first costume reveal. Just to clarify.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546855
I'm talking relatively speaking.
>Lulu
>Gibara
>Bora
>Roa

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546567

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546833
Oh yes I remembered seeing this. If this is really true then it's an insane number. Iirc one of those costs like 15k yen right ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546622
Here's the thing, while Towa might not have many people who have her as their primary oshi (relative to other JPs), she's a second, third or even fourth to a lot of people.
Those people are still going to buy merch if it interests them.
Nijisanji fanbases tend to be more isolated in that they generally only support 1 or 2 vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546967
Meiro was the fastest growing female nijisanji in 2020. Her CCV had a good trajectory, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546855
well if shes gone there wont be dokuzuhonsha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546153
Orca is going to get a cool 40k deposited into her bank account after cuts. Not bad for 5 days work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546833
PekoStonks. Proud to be one of these buyers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546861
Anon, Ame never peaked 100k on her first outfit reveal.
What kind of mental gymnastics childfuckers are pulling to cope with the decline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546967
As long as they don't lose the men it's ok. NijiJP females are worthless. They do not generate any views or sc money. Even Lulu had piss poor sc earnings even though she pandered to idolfags and never collabed with males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546567
Aside from the rrat out of nowhere with no explanation, no one from Seeds wave 1 are high profile

Dola: 1.3k
Chaika: 3.9k
Momo: 289
Ryushen: 1.1k
Yashiro: 8k
Kyoko: 364
Masaru: 934
Sister Claire: 1.6k
Kou: 1.9k

The only ones that are really big on it are Chaika and Yashiro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14547183

[Anonymous No.]

>Call out someone for being dumb
>They do not even know from where those numbers came from
Classic /#/

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546833
Some more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14547183
Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.]

so...what are the supas ranking for outfit reveals?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546967
Only Lulu and Gibara. Roa's situation was completely out of norm and Bora is overseas. Nijisanji always had a higher rate of graduation (for many reasons) than other agencies for the obvious reasons of having more members so it's kind of expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14547348
You realize it still shows the decline right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14547061
15,000¥ for me, an additional 3000¥ for the shipping overseas, and an additional 48€ because France is a dipshit country(though that last fee doesn't count obviously).

[Anonymous No.]

>May
>Mori $48,307 total ($19,196 1st costume)
>Kiara $106,112 total ($18,281 1st costume)
>Ina $92,989 total ($11,165 1st costume)
>Gura $69,728 total ($16,582 1st costume)
>Ame $43,490 total ($17,871 1st costume)

>December
>Mori $17,823 2nd costume
>Kiara $4,628 2nd costume
>Ina $2,925 + $9,519 2nd costume
>Gura $6,142 2nd costume
>Ame $7,668 2nd costume

[Anonymous No.]

>>14547409
>Mori 18k
>Kiara 15k (incluiding the scuffed streams)
>Gura 8k
>Ame 7k
>Ina 3k

[Anonymous No.]

>>14547434
I was going to say I wish I had one.. But that is one pricey pillow cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14547532
>Gura and Kiara's SC hauls straight-up evaporating

[Anonymous No.]

>>14547994
The number for Kiara here is her first scuffed outfit reveal

[Anonymous No.]

>>14547344
Maybe not in ccv, but they are pillars in other areas. Dola does a lot of behind the scenes work, yashiro carries their shows and ryushen is their most profilic music artist for instance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14547532
Gura had 8k, not 6k. Not exactly a big difference but at least numberfag with the right numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>14540214
>what schizo neckbeards care about
Median CCV
>what Chloe cares about
Subs and SCs

Our priorities are often not in line with the vtuber themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546833
>Pekora's dakis may have made 800k
Merch really is the ticket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548255
merch and sponsors are always big money. the issue is there often isn't many ways to track it as an outsider

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548255
That and sponsorships. I still wonder how much she got for playing those Judgement games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14547417
And? You said she didn't reach 100k and you were wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

This is how low value NijiJP girls are. For some reason they do not get any sc. A stark contrast with NijiEN who manage to outearn some of the holos even. Anykara needs to fully invest into males in the JP side and continue trying to boost their female EN side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548255
Also a good thing to remember is the Pekora's plum had two runs that sold out twice.
Same with Lamy's sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548346
I put Lize in the filename but it's actually Lulu lol. Lize is slightly higher, with $21k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548346
Sultan…

[Anonymous No.]

>>14546622
She isn't very popular sure but she has a higher ceiling than most lower ranked holos because of her unique singing voice and attitude, and any goods with art by rurudo will do well. (her last set of good had art by guchico which is almost as good)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548346
Comparing it with a 3D from over a year ago looks a bit silly, no?
I know a lot of the recent 3Ds for girls aren't much better but still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548346
>continue trying to boost their female EN side
fuck off they should close that house of flops and only invest in males jp

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548504
I mean, the latest wave only had 1 female, so...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548504
CCV isn't everything. They have gachi to milk.
>>14548346
If you're a unicorn(or not) otaku possible gachikoi hololive is clearly more for you.

[Anonymous No.]

Millie really trying to milk those gachis.
A birthday countdown and two birthday streams within a 24 hour period.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548346
>>14548497

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548591
And superchats isn't everything either.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah, if Anykara was smart, they'd realize the market is basically already partitioned, ditch the female angle completely and heavily invest in males since Cover has done jack shit in that front and holostars is dead. Trying to compete in a market that is already dominated by a monolith is dumb, and Anykara is exposing themselves to Cover making a move on male vtubers one day and sweeping up that market share, Kuzuha and the boys can only carry you so far on their own. They need a strategy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548316
The promotion contract is so hard to determine. Especially for streaming.

The only one i know for certain because he threw a hissy fit about it is Trainwreckstv being paid 150k$ to play APEX for 4 hours to max 35k viewers.
https://twitter.com/Trainwreckstv/status/1455259945092337664?s=20

But NA streamers clearly are paid a hell of a lot more for these deals than international streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548698
Of course but they will get merch eventually and voice packs cost nothing to make. Not everyone has to be top dog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548346
>>14548497
Recent female streamers in the same gatchi range are exactly the same.

Too bad all the big female streamers got their 3D last year, before the event flood gates opened.

[Anonymous No.]

>Ame not at home

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548591
>>14548974
Why didn't Lulu have any gachis though? I don't think she ever did a one on one male collab even and she pandered to idolfags so much that holobronies thought she was a holo before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548813
Let's wait and see the merch and how it goes first.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijigirls in the main branch are currently in some weird death spiral right now. The lack of successful females in recent years and Hololive cementing itself as the top female vtuber company has pretty much locked them in some kind of self fulfilling prophecy of mediocrity.
>Nijisanji girls aren't doing great compared to their Hololive counterparts
>Top female chuubas will then always go for Hololive instead of Nijisanji
>Nijisanji gets left with the runts like Lain who will fail to draw in the crowd
>Lack of results means that Anykara will focus on their Male livers more (Edengumi was already a sign of this, debuting 4 guys: 1 girl)
>Return to step 1
I'll be very interested in how the Males will change the dynamic for NijiEN since there's a real chance that the girls suffer the same fate as their JP counterparts

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549251
Because that was March 27th 2020.
At the time the MAX superchats for a 3D stream was about 30k$.

That media analyst was completely right, the SC culture really started with Coco and dor 3D debuts, her 3D stream at 50k$ in SC on 27th June. After that Sachou had his ~100k$ mega concert, you can only consider 3D debuts as big SC draws after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549251
I swear this is numbersrot applying to SCs. Streamers making 50 thousand dollars for a 3d is not a common or expected occurance, and expecting them to do so or basing your business plan off the idea that every one of your talents will rake in hundreds of thousands every month is beyond retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548366
Didn't that become a non-limited product now? I didn't buy any because I don't drink alcohol, but I remember some people buying these much after the two rows of preorder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548717
graduate their 3rd army instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549641
> Mio has 5x the CCV of every non-holo combined.
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548591
Jp gachis are more consistent and donate more than eops

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549641
Someone is going come in and claim that Selen is mogging all of holoEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549626
>I'll be very interested in how the Males will change the dynamic for NijiEN since there's a real chance that the girls suffer the same fate as their JP counterparts
Ahahahah. Fucking delusional. The west is FULL of western male streamers you can watch doing actual interesting bro shit instead of fuckbois.
The reason the west even likes vtubers (female) at all is because a lot of them LARP as not being roasties, which western female streamers not only don't do, but swing in the opposite direction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549963
>Numberrott, not knowing that having over 400 ccv usually makes it a livable job.

Your suggestion is the equivalent of saying Twitch should graduate every non japanese APEX streamer.
Or Overwatch should block everyone outside the top 5-10 streamers from streaming their game.
Even though they make them tens of thousands of dollars each month.

[Anonymous No.]

Since people are talking about 3Ds does anyone have the image of all the Hololive 3D debuts with their SC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549654
>>14549656
She was at only $250k total sc before her graduation. Sultan was already past $700k by the time she decided to leave. She even debuted several months before him as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548156
Then we should go a bit more on those other areas instead of just looking at the members from sub and ccv numbers lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549738
looks like it.
https://meirishurui.shopselect.net/items/38245850

[Anonymous No.]

>>14550163
If you multiply her numbers 20 she is.
>>14549279
It depends on how on the back burner NijiEN is. I mean they changed the company name at the same time as their debut, they care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14550201
also the western equivalent to nip fujos is more invested on kfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549654
>you can only consider 3D debuts as big SC draws after that
Anon, Gibara's 3D set the record for superchats at that time, as did Sio's which was admittedly only a week or so before Coco's. Yes the raw numbers have grown massively because so has the audience, but 3D debuts were always very high earners in proportion to other types of streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548346
Why you didn't compare him with Tomoe who had over 100k SC on her 3D debut this year and is up there in the record for vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

35K get!

[Anonymous No.]

i think that not understanding numbers might be the dominant you-farming strat. schizos should take note.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm just glad Lap+ got another 20k+ viewer stream. based

[Anonymous No.]

>>14550306
I could make one if it doesn't already exist but honestly it'd be somewhat pointless when Rushia didn't even get $10k for hers because it was still November 2019, she'd get 10 times that amount if she did it at the same time Nene did

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549626
You say that while ignoring Mito, Lize, Nui, Chihiro and other female vtubers. And looking only to the sub and CCV angle, while ignoring concerts, merchandise and other stuff that is produced and done.
Regardless, they don't really need to do great compared to hololive but by themselves. Outside of tribalfaggotry, that's how the world works anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14550707
correct, not understanding numbers is the best way to fit in here

[Anonymous No.]

>>14550655
>full myth collab gets lower CCV than Fubuki fishing

[Anonymous No.]

>>14550201
I mean you never know. If they can get 3-4 guys with a median of 2-3k while not completely tanking the girl's CCV and SC, I'll consider that a win for them. But that's really were the worry is. If Nijimales (assuming they're succesful) don't just siphon/kill the EN girls viewership and SCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549963
there's 0 reason for anykara to graduate the worst performers of niji jp when the overall branch is doing well. That only would happen if somehow all of their big ones graduated and only the ones who make less than 1k remained.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara stop browsing 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

How do we save Chloe? She was supposed to be the Pekora killer but her numbers have gone to shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544222
Just came back from work and god this is just sad... kiara...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14550902
>If they can get 3-4 guys with a median of 2-3k
They can't get 3-4 girls wit ha median of 2-3k. Do you think 2-3k male streamers just fucking pop out? Like the Niji brand name is gonna carry them?
Anyone good enough to pull those numbers is already pulling them or would pull them as a RL streamer, because the west sees women vtubers as anime waifus and male vtubers as retards behind an avatar.

[Anonymous No.]

>full myth collab gets higher CCV than NijiEN's highest record of all time
>(the Selen's Event Apex collab with Rpr, and full NijiEN Collab)
>With Kuzuha is MIA, Nijisanji can't even get past 15k this past few days by themselves
>Next Gold will probably be in a week again,

[Anonymous No.]

>>14551435
Since when is beating NijiEN impressive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14551407
She's clearly gunning to be the Rushia killer instead and she's doing a good job of it so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549641
Lol Nijisanji is embarassing

[Anonymous No.]

>>14550505
Because she's the exception, not the rule. Men dominate the sc rankings in Niji. The top 5 most sced Nijis are: Kuzuha, Kanae, Hayato, Fuwa and Ibrahim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14551435
>>full myth collab gets higher CCV than NijiEN's highest record of all time
Anon? That's obvious?
Has NijiEN's highest record even beat Anya's 15k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14550809
I know I saw it before but I'll do it myself if I can't find it again.
It's more about showing the growth in SC over time than between the different girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14550792
20k is an accomplishment now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14551407
She was meant to be a fake money whore from the start. So not a Pekora killer, but rather an Ayame/Rushia Killer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14551435
Stop kicking them while they are down, anon. I think a lot of people are feeling bad for them at this rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14551511
>>14551622
NijiENfags desperately keeps pitting their whores against HoloEN.
This is just a reminder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14551726

[Anonymous No.]

>>14551688
Well, she has managed to maintain it for the most part since her debut. That should be impressive enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>14551688

numberrot as it finest

[Anonymous No.]

>>14551688
20k for a normal stream is really good, unless you're Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN girl who gets 1k normally suddenly gets 2k and Nijifags be like:
>get rekt ENfags
>Niji inclining, Holo declining
>Nijisanji are Gods incarnate

Kronii who got 20k+ yesterday and Nijifags be like:
>Not bad but still failure
>20k is an achievement?

And when they are so mogged they be like
>I feel sad for you guys who cares more about numbers, this is not a console war.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14548346
Anon, you are retarded. Top 10 most superchats for 3D in Nijisanji:

Top 10 Superchat
1. Fuwa Minato ¥16,358,272
2. Ibrahim ¥14,074,222
3. Shirayuki Tomoe ¥11,395,114
4. Kagami Hayato ¥10,269,624
5. Saegusa Akina ¥7,509,846
6. Furen E Lustario ¥5,856,797
7. Kakeru Yuemoi ¥4,587,812
8. Uzuki Kou ¥4,056,336
9. Hoshikawa Sara ¥3,957,746
10. Chima Machita ¥3,948,043

2 males, 3 females in 2021
Tomoe also is in the top 5 of most superchatted streams.
And that's all from Tomoe who has 1-2.5k in views, but tons of female and male gachis due to herself and crossick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14552152
An incline is and incline. A decline is a decline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14551407
La+ - Pekora
Chloe - Rushia
Iroha - Subaru
Koyori - Fubuki
Lui - Mio?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14552382
right, a decline is a decline

[Anonymous No.]

>>14549626
Hololive hires 5 girls per year. I doubt there are only 5 good female streamers per year in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14552468
Yes. I'm not a Nijifag but I hate that HoloEN fags beat up on midgets to hide their decline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14552539
The remaining ones are being scouted by Hololive already for upcoming gens

[Anonymous No.]

>>14552594
Im not hiding nothing, I just like to shit on nijien low numbers

[Anonymous No.]

40K get

[Anonymous No.]

40k? this is starting to get interesting

[Anonymous No.]

It takes five of them to get 40k so we are only counting it as an 8k which isn't that good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14552419
For me
La+ - Marine but loli
Chloe - Rushia
Iroha - 2019 Aqua
Koyori - Cuter Kiara
Lui - My wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>14552912
5 myth = pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>Kiara got the least views of Holoen for her outfit
>but the second most SCs
>Gura at 3rd, barely above Ame, despite most views
>Ina last, fourth most views

That "ina hates takos" thing really fucked her.

>>14552152
Nijisanji and Hololive have completely different standards. Selen getting nearly 9k watching her birthday is great for a first-year Nijisanji liver. Many nijis (like the Koreans) exist in low view hell forever because Niji just shits out dozens and dozens of low quality models hoping one of them will take off like Mito did. Hololive puts out fewer generations and puts more effort into marketing them, so as to concentrate a larger number of views to a smaller number of people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14552836
>>14552891
A gen3 collab of that proportion on Pekora's channel would get 100k minimum.

[Anonymous No.]

where were you when gura caused a bananacoin panic sell in real time

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553125
wasnt the 3rd gen concert 50k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14552468
It's not Apex. If that scene completely dies off she's gonna be in a bit of trouble. Well at least, falling back to earth with her averages down with Pomu and Finana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553047
>Selen getting nearly 9k watching her birthday is great for a first-year Nijisanji liver
Said out loud like this was kinda sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553125
When was the last time Pekora got 100k+?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553047
>Selen getting nearly 9k watching her birthday is great
THIS IS WHAT NIJINIGGERS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

[Anonymous No.]

>>14550856
But outside of Lize and Chii-chan others are reclining. Concerts are big but not many females get them, the focus seems to be on male and then mixed concerts. I agree that it is very unfair to compare them to Hololive and only a deluded retard thinks it is even a contest with 2.7k median CCV vs Hololive's 17.2k.
>>14552539
We can safely conclude that there are none. Unless Nijisanji's scouting head is pants on head retarded Lain is a top 10 pick of the litter.
>>14552752
I wonder how many would say yes. I mean Cover got a literal 11 view and a 14 view for HoloX. That's scrapping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553233
Why would shitcoiners sell off because the shark spouted some memes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553233
Kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553233
QRD?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553047
>That "ina hates takos" thing really fucked her.
Ina has always had shit superchats, because she never reads them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553304
PekoMama last year(it has been a year exactly today now that I think about it), 128k if I remember right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553371
SELL SELL SELL

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553311
Yagoo is a savior after all. They scout for talent in people. It is something beyond numbers thread comprehension

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553247
That was a short preview of the concert and it was on the main channel that no one watches. A better example would be the 3rd gen concert Marine did on her channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553047
>puts more effort into marketing them,
You mean the same company that throws out a gen at noon and tells people the bebuts are at 9 that evening? One buys adds ads, the other uses word of mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553271
Think of it in the proper frame of reference. Her debut got like 15k. If you get 2/3rds of your debut number for your birthday that's quite good. That would be like IRyS getting 60k for her birthday if she got 90k for debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553271
>>14553309
Nijisanji is never going to equal Hololive EN. Nijisanji has planned to debut 20 people in their first year alone, while HoloEN is in its second year and only has 11. Nijisanji will continue to debut people until the branch either fails or they find someone who can match people like Mito. That is simply their corporation's strategy, spamming "NUMBER NOT HIGH" is not going to change how Anykara does business or the fact they are fundamentally operating on a low cost model of sink-or-swim while Hololive does more to try and get their talents more viewers because they reason it benefits them if their talents succeed. Nijisanji cares less if their talents fail, because there are always more retards they can debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553233
When will people learn!!??

Hololive members mention a product and that product either sells out or sells into the ground!

Where's the fucking 10 million $ Coco Cola sponsorship deal for Irys and Council?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553468
it was a smart strat to create surprise

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553371
doomp it

[Anonymous No.]

>>14552468
>>14552594
Almost No one will shit on NijiEN if they haven't been assholes.
Nijifags always brags their midget numbers and doomposts about HoloEN.

I bet those coping ENfags are also just falseflagging Nijifags so they can reply and talk trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553468
>implying stopping the SEAnigger children in this thread from trying to find out their roommates before debut is a bad thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553233
DUMP ET

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553304
>>14553440
Also the ONLY time she has done over 100k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14538389
Know any other Gas Gas Gas videos other than Gura ones?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lcOyt_403U

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553468
It's also the same company that made 2-3 promo long ass lore MV so..

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553047
>That "ina hates takos" thing really fucked her.
Peak board reader insanity

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553459
>70k difference
>concert tickets were $45
3.175 million dollars plus merch. Although I'm making up the 70k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553521
Tell this to the Doomposting Nijifags who believes HoloEN is within their reach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553589
The actual vtubers haven't been asses, it's only been the SEAs that look for fights and discord nigs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553716
Blame Sana for making it seem achievable.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura
>40k watching
at least people can see that they're beating all of their NA competitors

Ludwig
>33k
Valkyrae
>23k

YT live tab is definitely ... Oh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553852
Vtubers dominate youtube streaming. Susan must be seething so hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553852
123 GO! SCHOOL is reclining.

[Anonymous No.]

Move here >>14553937 when you fags done

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553852
123 GO! SCHOOL must be seething that cartoon girl is stealing her child fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544431
Her phasmo are usually around 10k though, and her box opening is depended on what pack she is opening but most are 15k+

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Myth always have to nerf themselves for Kiara? They could easily get 50k+ during actual NA primetime, but they had to start 3 hours earlier because a bloo bloo I live in europe and I can't adjust my sleep schedule to my job

[Anonymous No.]

>>14554043
NIGGER LOOK AT THE FUCKING CATALOGUE BEFORE MAKING NEW THREADS

[Anonymous No.]

>dont need math
number bros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544431
Fubuki is entertaining, HoloX brought in new audience, Japanese love gacha, and Phasmo is more fresh now than when she spammed it. Algorithm bug is such a funny cope. She got boosted by the algo regularly if anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>14554197
Anon, you think Calli after streaming for like 9-12 hours every day this weekend could have waited 3 more hours?
She already stayed up all night for this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553440
did she ever had an outfit reveal after that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14554364
Tell me that numbers made any sense since HoloX debut. I don't know my own penis length anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>14554364
You think anyone here knows math? Have you read the thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14554627
Her prisoner outfit came after that, yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14544431
>>14554522
Isn't her only Phasmo stream to do those numbers the one that had Marine on as a guest anyways?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553852
if you change to youtube japane does it change?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553437
>>14553695
that's actually sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>14550258
400 is the baseline? Livable as in it's worth treating it as a full-time job? What about the baseline ccv for corporations/start-up to be worth the investment? Please do contribute your numbers, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14543002
Please add this to the nijicope list. "bug in the algorithm"

[Anonymous No.]

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
> percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm

[Anonymous No.]

>>14553459
>3rd gen concert on Marine's channel
>Comparing a 3D concert with a standard game collab
Be honest with yourself. How many viewers would a full 3D Myth concert on Gura's channel get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14554627
Jail outfit at 91k viewers yeah, but that one didn't get advertised by Hololivetv at all since it wasn't an official outfit. she's been waiting for an official one since February 2020; Cover doesn't seem to give a fuck about their most prominent talent for some weird reason(surely the story with the most rrats revolving around it).

[Anonymous No.]

>>14555310
90k, HoloEN are not idols and will never do that shit. Global's fantasy about them getting idol outfits and singing SSS is just a pipe dream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14555267
>bug in the algorithm
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>14555323
>most prominent talent
Not anymore. She has been surpassed by Fubuki and Chloe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14555400
>HoloEN are not idols and will never do that shit
you are retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>14555023
>>14555267
You're replying to someone coping about Kiara's low outfit reveal numbers, dumbfuck. Rent free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14555459
No HoloEN have shown interest in it. They onlly want 3D to meet up and do skits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14555525
>No HoloEN have shown interest in it
you are genuinely retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>14554891
phasmo with marine are 20k+ except 2 minutes one, her usual phasmo see >>14554195

[Anonymous No.]

>>14555435
Chloe's numbers have already crashed and burned and Fubuki's will die off again when the Pokemon gacha tourist buff ends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14555560
No, I am not. It's not about doing the idol shit or putting on a 3D live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14555649
yes you are

[Anonymous No.]

i wonder how much chinks are seething about fbking's numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>14555807
I hope a lot.
She farted in their face and they didn't even feel grateful

[Anonymous No.]

people need to understand why fubuki subs grow is about.
It is becasue tourist and a
gacha BUT there is another reason. Called subscribers mode only AND chinese bugs.
that is why she has gotten that many subscribers in comparison of holox and the rest of the talent. If they l stay that depends. They are not moving from those streams. her collab with roboco didn't increase roboco in any way. I will say wait for the next el Shadai to see how many stick.