Nadeshiko/Nadechama

[Anonymous No.]

Starting soon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg-QxFjnUKo

Schedule: https://twitter.com/nadechama/status/1467520133933404172

Links:
https://twitter.com/nadechama
https://www.youtube.com/c/nadechama
https://www.twitch.tv/nadechama

[Anonymous No.]

>Badgers look soulless now
It's like one of those companies who decided to change their logos for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

Why did she delete it?
https://twitter.com/nadechama/status/1470020765097476097

[Anonymous No.]

I fell asleep during the vote and forgot my vod reps. What won in the end?

[Anonymous No.]

first post and schizos are already shitting the thread. nadelove, flowers are prettier anyway and suit her better.

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OH NO NO NO BADGERBROS WE LOST

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>>14525450
Probably so that she can announce it on stream for ~dramatic impact~. she likes making announcements on stream

[Anonymous No.]

Nade love, elf hate!

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Badgers HATE

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>>14525344
That's not a badger, really.
As someone who really likes the badgers, I have no problem with the flowers, it's related to her channel and identity. I would have hated if it was shit like the desserts for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>10 waiting
Twitch superior

[Anonymous No.]

why is she playing so many normalfag zoomer games

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>>14525738
because she's a zoomer who can finally try out all the games she couldn't play before because of a lack of PC.

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>>14525738
Unironically for numbers

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>>14525738
maikura is comfy kino
kys anti

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STARTING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg-QxFjnUKo

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>>14525738
She is a fucking zoomer, retard. Sorry she's not playing your super niche indie game.

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>>14525460
>flowers are prettier anyway
Yea, they are better compared to this soulless blob. I'd vote old badgers concept over flowers any minute tho

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>>14525824
baka

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>>14525883 >>14525460
Also this >>14525700, deserts were retarded

[Anonymous No.]

The reason she did not want to do badges on stream is that she wanted to make an unappealing badger design without letting chat interfere and guide her to a better one.

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>>14526013
While I'm sure there was no foul play on Nade's part (that would be retarded, come on now).
I'm absolutely sure badgers would have won by a landslide if they had the original post it note design and if Nade didn't went out of her way to express how much she wanted the flowers to win.

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>>14526013
Pretty much
>>14526107
Considering how much she said "that would never happen" only for it to happen afterward I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional. She is obviously trying to phase out badgers. I don't know why and she refuses to tell.

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>>14526368
>I don't know why and she refuses to tell.
I don't know why are you still here seething about the same thing for a week at this point. Why not move on if this annoys you so much?

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Eira, don't watch...

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>>14525684
why is that pixelated?

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>>14526427
NTA, but it's because i have been here from the first thread and become invested, it's hard to let go. I had a similar situation with bea in the past.

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>>14526368
It sounds like she wants to go in the family friendly direction again?
I've seen the badgers compared to the takodachis, so if she wants to avoid the bonking dynamic, makes sense.

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>>14526728
Now you're reaching with your reasoning

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>>14526728
I've been thinking about that myself. Maybe all the comments about microwaves and plushie abuse (though that one she did herself) made her feel bad. Even the gartic phone had some bad feelings of badgers blowing up. That's all a rrat though. There are many different reasons you could think of but really only Nade knows and she'll likely tell us when she wants to. Just enjoy because thinking off too many rrats hurts your brain and makes you a schizo like what's happened to so many others on this board.

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>>14526728
You are reaching this much

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>>14526728
How does a cute mascot have any bearing on how the chat acts?

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If you guys want a beliveable rrat on why she's phasing out badgers I'll provide one.

Badgers were taking too much "space" on her channel. Nade wants the channel to be about her, not about the fanbase. When she saw her birthday card made by the fanbase, there were badgers all over the place, and even her singaporean friend (which she barely mentions anymore, have you noticed?) got almost as much space dedicated to her on the card.
Maybe she doesn't realize the reason why things like this happen is because 90% of the fanbase can't draw for shit and that's why the simple and cute mascot gets so much attention on fanart or gartic for example.

Also, she's a contrarian cute little shit, so the behaviour checks out.

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Its cute how you can see her look at the keyboard when trying to select a specific tool.

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>>14527298
This doesn't make any sense, the only times that badgers ended up on stream is as doodles at the end of drawing streams, or during gartic streams.

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>>14526427
Cause I like watching her. I'm not ready to abandon the ship over the minor annoyance
>>14526728
The concept of badgers is family-friendly as fuck.

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>>14526728
This is the most schizo rrat i read about her in a while.
>>14526946
>Just enjoy because thinking off too many rrats hurts your brain and makes you a schizo
like it happened to you, since you've been thinking about such retarded rrats

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>>14527828
I think of them, but I don't obsess over them. I thought of it for a second at one point and then that anon's own rrat made me remember.

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>>14527298
t.nade

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Minecraft really brings out the zoomer in her. It's cute.

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RATE

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>>14529585
Progress10

She seemed a lot more relaxed this time, and even turned up the difficulty past peaceful.

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>>14529585
Getting better at playing blockgame / 10
Also this: >>14529673

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>>14529585
sexy!/10

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>>14529585
She's improving at block game / 10.
Seeing Nade trying it's best at new things can be really fun if she doesn't stress too much over being bad.

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>>14529585
Doing her best in MC. Chat was really slow though.

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>>14529748
That happens whenever she's more concentrated on the game she's playing. It's not like there's a lot for the audience to react to in minecraft.

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>>14529748
its bound to happen when you abandon your fanbase, everyone leaves

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Roru roru rumao, Argie just woke up?

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shes really embraced her zoomer humour lately
I don't mean this in any rude way. But she should try networking with reddit chuubas, they have a lot of similarities and she'd fit in well

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>"People" complained how twitch is bad because of quality settings
>Argie shitposting peaks after youtube stream
Thinking time plese.

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>>14532762
Imagine being both a poorfag and subhuman shitskin kek. Anyway Nade's been talking lots about a hypothetical new costume. Ideas? Hopes? Expectations?

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>>14532762
if you want to blame it all on the Argie, then you're just as deluded as him

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>>14532762
Argie shitposting peaks every day, what are you talking about? And don't pretend there isn't a lot of legit criticism to be had about twitch.

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>>14532841
Long white hair + cute dress most likely.

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>>14532876
Like what?

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>>14532841
Imagine blaming multiple ips worth of people having actual criticism on one bogeyman.

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>>14532989
>actual criticism
14531249 and 14532626 aren't criticism.

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>>14532930
The quality setting is one of them. The chat being erased when you pop up or refresh is shit, the controls of the video are shit (no, clicking on the clip button is not a good enough alternative, I tried). And please, save yourself the trouble of posting extensions that try to fix some of twitch's bad aspects, the fact that extensions are needed is proof that there are some bad things about the twitch experience.

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is the cycle of baiters and people calling it out the only things keeping these threads up anymore? this has gone so far downhill at this point desu

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>>14529585
She seemed a little down at first until she talked about the Sino Alice finals, so I guess that was why. In terms of criticisms I have, she could do more to draw viewers into that new-player-to-the-game experience but seeing as she's new to PC games in general, I know that's a big ask to make.

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>>14531249
>>14532626
>>14533059
Here's your daily (You)s touristschizo, keep working on that english homework!

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>>14533226

>>14532853
^

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>>14533028
>save yourself the trouble of posting extensions that try to fix some of twitch's bad aspects
I agree in practice and I'd like to add discovery and monetization to the list of things Twitch does worse than YouTube. But I have to oppose the above quote on principle. If a hypothetical platform became the better of the two through the use of extensions, then that platform + extension combo would be the better choice by definition, apologies for the tautological statement.

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>>14533458
>monetization worse
It's much easier to get there.

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>>14533458
That's not the point. The thing is, those are problems inherent to twitch, you can't exempt them from criticism because of third parties fixing their shit. That's like excusing bethesda from their bugged releases because modders eventually fix everything.
One of the downsides of twitch is how you only matter if you are online. It's a lot better for people who stream all the time instead of people who stream on set schedules like most vtubers do. As Nade said herself, most of her youtube growth happens when she's offline, because the recommendations are showing her to new people. It's a difference on what each platform prioritizes, youtube prefers creators with good engagament metrics that feed the algo, Twitch rewards people who stream more by volume.

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>>14533028
I'm not going to try to convince you or anyone on /vt/ whether Twitch is shit or not because it's fruitless. I'll just say that if you're popping out your chat every time and would like to make your experience on Twitch better I would suggest trying Chatterino. You can also add some of Nade's raid friends in separate tabs so you wouldn't have to pop out their chats either.

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>>14533819
I agree with the overall point of your previous post, I'm just nitpicking the idea that extensions shouldn't be considered when choosing a streaming platform for your audience. If we're talking about Twitch as a company, I don't have a lot of nice things to say.
To piggyback of your second paragraph, that's the discoverability problem exactly. YouTube discoverability seems worse at first because not many new subs are going to come in through a livestream VOD. But if you edit those into more digestible clips and supercuts you'll draw people to the channel and some of them will even come to watch your livestreams to get the full fat experience. Twitch's clips should fill this gap but the platform barely promotes them.

>>14533497
Sort of. The affiliate program is a sandtrap that's offered to streamers with as few as 3 viewers. The minimum payout is 100 USD (that's $200 worth of Bits and Subs since Twitch takes half) so if you only ever get a few Subs or Bits from Twitch, they keep the money. At the same time Twitch begins running ads to viewers before they can join your livestream which are much longer than YouTube's and more than long enough to get a potential new viewer to click off the channel. On top of this, Twitch puts a lot of effort into breaking conventional ad blockers. Nade is probably fine with payouts for now thanks to a few generous chat members, but there's no guarantee that this will continue past her honeymoon phase with the Affiliate program.
Finally, there's the exclusivity clause, which doesn't really affect Nade since she alternates platforms, but someone who's still at 3 viewers benefits by mutistreaming and casting as wide a net as possible until their audience starts to coalesce. Sure, you can flaunt it, but you never know when the hammer is going to drop.

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>>14533028
I think Nades twitch streams are better and more engaging than YouTube ones. I don’t know why that is, but it feels like a much better experience. Your critique of twitch features is valid, but anyone can gather a bag of issues about anything, I’m not turning on twitch to juggle 10 things at once, it’s just to watch the stream and type a sentence once in a while, so majority of the issues don’t exist 99% of the stream so I don’t subscribe to be upset about some ridiculous “in a vacuum” scenarios.

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>>14535504
I've heard that YouTube holds comments for a few seconds so that it can stream them to the chatbox in a nice smooth waterfall. A benefit for big streamers but terrible for the small streamers who's chats have an actual sense of conversation.

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>>14533059
the thread would stay alive anyways because of the bumpschizo

>>14535236
>that's $200 worth of Bits and Subs since Twitch takes half
That's true for subs, but the streamer gets 100% from bits. You pay twitch's fee upfront for bits, the cut ranges from ~28.6% down to ~18.8% depending on how much you buy at once.

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>>14535807
Any kind of donation should be done through streamlabs to be fair, no reason to give susan or bezos any money that could go straight towards Nade.

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>>14535747
Now that you mention it i think youre right, its the the very small delay. Watched la+ clip earlier today and she said something funny and i stared at the on screen chat for good 5 seconds for the kusas to start flowing in, really disconnecting. I think it does make it feel much better for a smaller chuba channel, but majority of the time it isnt that bad for large channels where your comment leaves the screen in 3 seconds, but it still is jarring when something happens and the reactions are so delayed .

Wish youtube made that an option a streamer could tick.

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>>14535807
>Bits
Shoot, you're right. I totally blanked on this but I hardly see anyone use Bits anyway. Maybe they don't seem as cool as Superchats or maybe Twitch developed a culture of Streamlabs donations before the company could implement them.

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>>14536179
Streamlabs and the companies like it were born to help facilitate paypal donations. Before they existed people used to have direct paypal buttons in their stream descriptions. Bits weren't a thing until 2016, so they are less common, especially amongst the established userbase. It also doesn't help that they call the feature cheering but the currency is bits.
https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2016/06/27/introducing-cheering-celebrate-together-da62af41fac6/

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>>14536397
>>14536179
Last I recall when bits were being introduced they weren’t particularly liked to begin with, because of the upfront fee cost when tried and true straight donating seemed like cheaper option to do the same exact thing. They improved the feature somewhat by having gimmicks, and the community got used to the fees for the most part, but I still don’t see why I’d use them over sending a donation.

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I miss this

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>>14537037
it is cute, I will also miss her current design. pink short haired loli is my ideal.

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>>14537202
I unironically think using that as a reactive png would look better

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>>14537262
Why tho

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>>14537037
I wasn’t particularly into it when I stumbled in on her debut day. I found the traditional-like outfit rather boring. But by god did it grew on me once the voice and the looks settled in in my brain. Same goes for the live2d, but it grew on me faster. I feel like a parent who gets nostalgic reminiscing different stages of their child. I’m even nostalgic for the phase I wasn’t part of, the pre-png, I watched the videos after and I think she was the most seiso she’s ever been in those, so innocent…
What wonderful memories.

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I hope it gets delivered on time, it does say their complete average days is 9 days so we'll see.

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>>14537772
Nice and based!

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how is she so cute? it should be illegal to be that cute!

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>>14537696
Yeah her videos were really seiso. The only one that could be seen as not so was the America one and that was due to the chat.

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>>14538218
She's gonna return to seiso

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>>14538293
That’s impossible. To return to the starting seiso levels I mean, the damage has been done and it cannot be undone!

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>>14538218
her reactions to azur lane girls were hilarious and funny as hell
good memories

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>>14538511
If she wants to do it, it can be

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>>14538524
if you say so, Nade

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>>14538849
Nadogey.png
Srsly though. If she wants to, she'll push through with it

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>>14538156
I always preferred this hair color, and specially the white eyelashes, it gives her an ethereal aura that I like, curiously, the bangs are also more straight, like what she intends to change to in the fabled new costume.
dunno about the short vs long hair, I like long hair, but the one in this picture looks so perfect on her.

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>>14539191
My rrat is that k4gatsu had a lot more influence on her design than thought. Compare >>14537037 to the final sketch she had shown us. I think she let the artist make a lot of changes without offering much push back. She probably didn't even consider it her own creation anymore with how she credited k4gatsu in her L2D debut for the original design rather than herself. Her PNGs and L2Ds after k4gatsu's have been slowly changing things back to how she herself designed them. Now that she's learned to stick up for her own interests rather than just trying to make others happy, I think that she sees the new costume as a second chance and that she'll make sure it sticks closely to what she wants this time.

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predict the schedule