There are people in this board right now who wholeheartedly believe Gawr Gura is Hololive's best singer. Literally why? Help me understand.

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Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:04:30 2021 No.1450843 [Reply] [Original]

There are people in this board right now who wholeheartedly believe Gawr Gura is Hololive's best singer.
Literally why? Help me understand.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:04:57 2021 No.1450853 Because she is

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:06:08 2021 No.1450869 recency bias

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:06:27 2021 No.1450876 >>1450843 so the anti Kiara period ended? we are moving on Gura now?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:07:18 2021 No.1450893 >>1450843 I don't really care about who is best, but I enjoy listening to her karaoke streams.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:08:56 2021 No.1450919 [DELETED]

>>1450843
She is senzawa and sen is the most prolific artist of the past decade. She literally brought to fame neekolul, belle delphine, and some other notable twitch thots (pokimame) becuase they just stole her hard work. As gura she continues the trendsetting style while having the negative air of being a vtuber, thus making it unfathomably ill-mannered and lowbrow to copy a fake anime girl. Sengura isn't actually the best singer, rather the best performer of songs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:10:34 2021 No.1450951 One of the best, sure. I don't think she's better than Suisei.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:10:59 2021 No.1450958 File: 72 KB, 247x248, 1614551718005.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >There are people in this board right now

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:12:25 2021 No.1450988 File: 93 KB, 227x222, 1609036482765.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1450958 >There are people

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:14:11 2021 No.1451029 >>1450919 belle did not steal her hard work. they worked together a lot behind the scenes

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:16:51 2021 No.1451076

People don't understand that singing quietly into a good mic is a really huge singing buff but not necessarily the mark of a singer with good training or range. It's a raw potential/talent thing which people here love but not necessarily a developed talent.

The only thing she's obviously worked at is her singing is her rhythm and pitch, which are very good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:18:49 2021 No.1451114 >>1451029 Sure. But even then, sen did the heavy lifting while belle did the most faggy shit in the world.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:19:06 2021 No.1451119

She's good, even great. Mori is the only other EN chuuba who can compete, and Gura has way more voice control. I love Ina's "City of Stars" for ref, her singing voice is good but not over 2star. JP on the other hand has great vocalists, from all directions. IN doesn't have good luck at singing at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:21:01 2021 No.1451151 >>1451114 sen is actually pretty good friends with belle so she'd probably be pissed you have this opinion

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:21:30 2021 No.1451159 File: 335 KB, 1200x600, gura_pinoy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't watch holoEN or ENtubers for that matter, but I will say this: that shark is a real hoot and a half, I tell ya.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:22:51 2021 No.1451189 >>1451076 This is good for Karaoke, not for songwriting. If you can't sing a full note but have to whisper it, you aren't doing well in the music scene.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:23:48 2021 No.1451203 https://youtu.be/esMbZZyhs0M

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:28:00 2021 No.1451280 she can improve tho https://youtu.be/lz_mNYpnRxU >this person is actually really really talented

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:28:42 2021 No.1451293 Suisei and Calli sing better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:31:02 2021 No.1451339 https://youtu.be/GQzZBHXNYKg

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:32:18 2021 No.1451362 Standing buff: https://files.catbox.moe/52yjmb.mp4

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:36:21 2021 No.1451434

>>1450843
Because even though her technical skills might not be on par with some other Holos yet due to not being as trained, her genuine love of singing really shines through it all. It's SOUL. As much as I love Suisei for example, I don't think she's able to evoke the same emotions on average even though she has way better control of her voice.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:36:46 2021 No.1451440 She may not be the best singer, but her singing has the most SOUL

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:37:37 2021 No.1451459 God Bless mashup to show consistency: https://files.catbox.moe/o0hgim.m4a

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:37:56 2021 No.1451465 >>1451440 >her singing has the most soul Sorry no that title goes to Noel https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7Ql4D1UnQ

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:41:01 2021 No.1451522 >>1451465 Noel trying her best is really cute but King covers are the opposite of SOUL

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:42:49 2021 No.1451557 File: 149 KB, 700x700, EoZkZiaUYAIr0Oz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1450843 More like cringiest singer

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:44:56 2021 No.1451610 >>1451557 What does that even mean

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:47:13 2021 No.1451670 >>1450843 Best singer in EN? 100% Best singer in Hololive? Doubtful but chumbuds don't watch enough other V-tubers to know better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:50:42 2021 No.1451755 >>1451610 It means that her singing is cringy.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:51:08 2021 No.1451762
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>>1450843
Not an ENfag but girl has genuine talent from what I've heard.
AZKi is still the best Hololive singer though. After her is Yogiri (RIP), then come Suisei and Gura in the same tier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:52:33 2021 No.1451792 >>1451755 How can singing be cringy?

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:54:03 2021 No.1451818

>>1451670
There are some with better voice range (like Risu) and/or more practice (AZKi, Sora), but I think Gura is pretty high up there. I would loathe to make a dick measuring contest out of it.
>>1451792
When you never hit those notes or put undue confidence in your singing ability, I suppose. I am a different anon and disagree with the one writing this, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:55:49 2021 No.1451853 EOP bias

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:56:41 2021 No.1451870 >>1450843 Must be difficult to accept that a girl who doesn't even speak Japanese sings it better than a group of native "idols".

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:57:22 2021 No.1451882 File: 80 KB, 532x542, 1599624180104.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How come no one ever mentions our CEO

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:57:52 2021 No.1451892 >>1450843 UUUUOOOOO CHILD EROTIC CHILD BELLY AND THIGHS EROTIC That's why.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:58:47 2021 No.1451904 >>1450843 ok boomer

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 14:59:30 2021 No.1451916 >>1450843 She is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:01:20 2021 No.1451949 >>1450843 Because she is my oshi and fuck you, that's why.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:01:30 2021 No.1451952 >>1451882 too tired after working at NenePro to shitpost

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:01:35 2021 No.1451957 >>1451151 I'll concede that point, but I don't think nekolul or those other hoes had permission

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:01:54 2021 No.1451958 File: 87 KB, 529x527, 1608785033354.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post some goods to counter hater https://files.catbox.moe/5o6i8n.ogg

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:07:31 2021 No.1452050 >>1450843 Chumbuddy here, she's not, Gura is a good singer but she's nowhere near Suisei or Towa. What I can't understand are faggots thinking her singing is bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:10:05 2021 No.1452092 >>1451159 speaking as a Filipino, anyone who is prideful they are one should just neck themselves, you're doing the country a service. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:14:37 2021 No.1452153 File: 17 KB, 367x388, 400350000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1450951 >one of the best, sure

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:16:39 2021 No.1452181

>>1450843
She's the best EN singer by far. Also unlike the other chuubas her singing has a distinct... "thing" to it that I can't quite articulate. It's the same thing that got her a million subs before Hololive and the same thing that got her 2.35 mil right now.
Mechanically, she's not the best, not by a long shot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:22:02 2021 No.1452247 Love Gura, love her singing, but cumbuds really need to listen to the others https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R092OEo0bU

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:23:44 2021 No.1452263 Where’s your single you lazy shark?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:25:01 2021 No.1452285 >>1450843 It's the same people who think Cali is an above average rapper. When you spend all your time listening to Vocaloid and other rhythm game music, you forget what actual talent sounds like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:27:25 2021 No.1452310 Gawr Gura is the best singer in Hololive!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:27:39 2021 No.1452315 >>1452285 I think people blend together the beat and the actual rapping. She raps on very nice sounding beats so it hides the fact that she's not the best at it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:28:16 2021 No.1452327 I wish she would sing drunk, shark is cute and her singing is great and all, but I have a blue shaped hole in my heart that it just doesn't quite fill.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:34:45 2021 No.1452417 >>1450843 >suddenly, she stands up I think it's just that there's a very noticeable difference when she gets serious.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:37:08 2021 No.1452463 She's really good at slower songs. Don't care for her take on jpop songs or meme songs like all stars.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:38:12 2021 No.1452490 >>1450843 Because she has a cute voice and an instrument to back up her singing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:40:09 2021 No.1452529 It's mostly transwomen, op. They can be dedicated to Gura for life but that isn't a very long time for them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:46:25 2021 No.1452652 Do people that call Suisei a good singer have functioning ears? Her voice is flat as fuck, theres a reason she failed every single audition she ever went for

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:49:57 2021 No.1452735 File: 125 KB, 1680x924, 1606272210734.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1451440 I'll show you SOUL https://streamable.com/ovyn9j

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:51:53 2021 No.1452765 >>1452285 >above average rapper they're not wrong. the average rapper is trash and can't even write lyrics, after all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:52:05 2021 No.1452768 i don't know about best but my favorites are roboco and aki they're both really good

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:52:21 2021 No.1452777 >>1451440 >>1452735 kneel to the ultimate SOUL! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSS3pYIAUYo

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:54:35 2021 No.1452818 >>1450853 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:57:19 2021 No.1452866 >>1452247 having better range doesn't make you a better singer anon, but yes, most of the holos are great singers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:57:26 2021 No.1452867 >>1451029 >>1451114 >>1451151 Belle reached out to her, she just rapped the lyrics. Gura's kinda retarded she had no idea that Belle was gonna use it for her only fans kek

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:57:29 2021 No.1452868
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>>1452652
> theres a reason she failed every single audition
Yeah she's fuckin nuts and would rather quit than change her character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpkWFnRPd-M

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 15:58:42 2021 No.1452889 >>1452092 shut the fuck up faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:00:27 2021 No.1452930 File: 1.83 MB, 1032x954, 1600602082646.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1452889 You better listen to what he says or I'm going to give you the Rushia-virus

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:00:31 2021 No.1452933 because it's subjective you nigger. For the vocal technique experts here, please contain your autism and remember you are judging amateurs behind anime avatars.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:01:49 2021 No.1452958 >>1451159 >>1452092 >>1452889 You want to display Pinoy Pride? Do something about that shithole. Jesus Christ you are all shameless pugs living in squalor!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:03:00 2021 No.1452982 >>1452933 It doesn't take an expert to point out chumbuds are fucking obnoxious and should give Hololive outside their bubble a try.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:04:48 2021 No.1453010 >>1452982 It doesn't take an expert to point out holoniggers are fucking obnoxious and should give some real singers a try. You'd have your mind blow by the singing out there that's NOT hiding behind anime avatars.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:05:00 2021 No.1453013 File: 149 KB, 800x533, 5A112334-F25E-4454-8010-ED44D9F816F6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1452889 pick up your trash

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:06:52 2021 No.1453038 File: 513 KB, 719x636, 1598360299500.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1453010 We're on the vtuber board so obviously we talk about vtuber singing, but let's hear it then /mu/tant what do you have for me that you're itching to share

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:09:44 2021 No.1453088

>>1450843
Because when she's singing live on stream she's on about the same level as hololive's best studio recorded songs.

Anyone who talks about Sora, Azki, or Suisei being better than her is using their official releases as their point of reference even though Gura has none of those yet.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:10:55 2021 No.1453114

>>1453038
>vtuber singing
Yet you only care about Hololives. The point that keeps going over your head is that you're not even listening to these people because of their amazing vocal technique but because of whatever attachment you have for their characters. Get your own music taste faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:11:53 2021 No.1453140 i think we can all agree that Gura is better than anything playing on Top 40 radio right now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:12:40 2021 No.1453156 >>1453088 1. No, she's not. 2. No, we're not. We're comparing live performances.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:12:55 2021 No.1453162

>>1453010
>implying
I'm a regular in the /classical/ thread on /mu/, and it's the only thread on the board I bother paying attention to because all of the other ones are either boomer shit, randos who can't sing live without pitch correction, or, worst of all, kpop. In fact, the kpop thread is the fastest one on the board, which should tell you everything about how shitty the contemporary "real singers" music landscape truly is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:14:23 2021 No.1453188 >>1453162 Nobody asked what generals your favorite, the fuck do you think you're proving here? I'd rather listen to classical singers but that really has nothing to do with this thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:14:45 2021 No.1453197 >>1453114 Quon Tama mogs the entirety of hololive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHU-vx4kBhI But we're not talking about other vtubers, this is a thread about hololive singers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:15:12 2021 No.1453210 File: 515 KB, 1699x2808, 33BAD977-CA47-4BF1-92C0-365EBFF1D84A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1453114 Please enlighten us which is autotined better, DJ Mumble Rapper or Miss HoodRat Twerk Slut?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:15:49 2021 No.1453223 whats the deal with /hlgg/?

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:16:25 2021 No.1453237

>>1453114
Okay I don't understand what your problem is. Just a chip on your shoulder about Hololive?
I was just making fun of chumbuds for saying "Hololive's best singer", which is in the OP. So that's what this thread is about but you're getting upset over me not mentioning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45U81qnQWK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI_1xomTCVY
anything outside that boundary.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:16:36 2021 No.1453244

>>1453210
why are all you retards assuming, that because I'm not gonna to jerk off to some autistic shark singing, I'm automatically some top 40 poptimist asswipe? I know why, because you can't handle someone calling out the midrate amateur talent that you worship for what it is, so you reflexive resort to strawmans.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:18:33 2021 No.1453281 >>1453244 you are choosing to come shit up a board and a thread about Gura.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:18:50 2021 No.1453286 the irony of believing you're above chart popmusic when that's approximately 50% of what holos cover, and the other half being volcaloid songs.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:20:49 2021 No.1453328

>>1453188
>Nobody asked what generals your favorite, the fuck do you think you're proving here? I'd rather listen to classical singers but that really has nothing to do with this thread.
I was responding to your previous inflammatory statement, bro:
>It doesn't take an expert to point out holoniggers are fucking obnoxious and should give some real singers a try.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:21:18 2021 No.1453334 File: 83 KB, 1280x720, 964C95B7-AE85-4CE1-9ADF-35766F22B279.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1453286 not gonna lie. I worship Gura but back in the day, picrel was my JAM

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:21:20 2021 No.1453335 File: 406 KB, 677x706, 1607228678370.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1453286 >>1453244 Clearly he just doesn't like music sung by niggers >>1453210

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:21:28 2021 No.1453339

>>1453237
>I was just making fun of chumbuds for saying "Hololive's best singer"
I was making the point that your making fun of them isn't really warranted because you're really not that much better than they are. Generally, it's not vocal technique that people respond to in vtubers but personality, expressions and those things are rather subjective. So for people who believe Gura is the best singer, it's probably because they respond to her carefree style or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:23:48 2021 No.1453391 >>1450843 Gura is the best EN singer and Okayu is the best JP singer.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:23:56 2021 No.1453395

>>1453328
I don't see where I asked what /mu/ thread is your favorite, I haven't even been on that board in ages so I don't know what motivated you to say all that shit about /classical/. Last I've been there, that thread was rather shit and dead outside of shitposts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:25:18 2021 No.1453425 >>1453197 This chick's pretty good, but why the Chinese subtitles? I won't give my support to someone who panders to the bugs.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:26:22 2021 No.1453444
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>>1453339
Okay but it is warranted because they're obnoxious.
Not really something worth arguing over. Of course it's got an element of subjectivity. What aint subjective is chumbud faggotory. Saying this as a chumbud.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:33:25 2021 No.1453566 >>1453425 I just looked up that cover specifically but didn't want to link a full stream. Anyways here's the source: https://youtu.be/Y6EMzMzUjKQ?t=2423

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:35:23 2021 No.1453594 [SPOILER]

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>>1453425
oh shit you are going to have a rough future. The entire workd including the United States are pandering to China. The Yanks voted out their last President for many reasons including his constant attacks on China.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:52:42 2021 No.1453888 File: 59 KB, 640x640, C6B23248-2F7D-4DB7-BB76-9C16C290AEA5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1453444 whats the difference between shrimps and chumbuds?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:55:08 2021 No.1453931 >>1453888 chumbud is her fanbase name. shrimp is just a replacement for simp and also short for the membershrimp title for her members.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:55:43 2021 No.1453943 >>1453931 so fans vs paypigs?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 16:56:11 2021 No.1453952 >>1453594 Nah, the world's business CEOs are probably going to get China's government butchered and replaced because they're such asses to work with.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 17:04:49 2021 No.1454105 >>1452777 Based. Miko is peak fucking soul.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 17:05:24 2021 No.1454118 >>1453952 not going to happen. China rules the global elites with the organ trade.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 17:06:25 2021 No.1454132 Watame is low key a great rapper.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 17:12:41 2021 No.1454262
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>>1453114
>Get your own music taste faggot.
Come on fag, he asked you a fair question. If you're gonna come here and shit on a bunch of autists you gotta at least back it up otherwise you're just picrel.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 17:30:00 2021 No.1454523

>>1450876
This is what I can't stand about chumbuds. Nobody's saying Gura is a bad singer. I can understand if you find her voice the best in EN. But you lash out if one dares suggest she might not be the best in Hololive. Chill the fuck out. Reasonable doubt isn't being an anti.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 17:31:34 2021 No.1454547 >>1451434 >>1451440 Soul is a buzzword. It means nothing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 18:10:47 2021 No.1455822 >>1454523 every thread about Kiara or Gura is just bait for antis, it's just how it is

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 18:25:21 2021 No.1456403 >>1450843 She’s talented but not pro level.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 18:26:23 2021 No.1456437 She's not the best, but she's easily at the top.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 18:27:44 2021 No.1456492 >>1450843 She's the one with the most natural talent/potential for sure She's impressive for having no vocal training at all besides absorbing things like a sponge.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 18:29:54 2021 No.1456577 >>1456492 >shork >sponge hrk

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 18:36:58 2021 No.1457026 SHE HASN'T EVEN RELEASED A COVER OR AN ORIGINAL SONG AND SHE'S STILL BETTER THAN YOUR ASIAN WHORES, HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 18:37:26 2021 No.1457066 >>1456403 Honestly, I’d want to put her in my studio and see what she’s got in a booth with a full signal chain behind her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 18:41:36 2021 No.1457452 >>1450843 She is one of the best but maybe not the most talented. Easily the best EN singer which may be why a bunch of english speakers think shes the best.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 19:34:55 2021 No.1461896 MORI YOU DORK

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 19:39:32 2021 No.1462552 >>1452777 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b3SJwZ1xvSc

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 20:10:10 2021 No.1466262 >>1450843 Her singing gives my heart a reason to continue beating. So yes, she is. >hurr durr, technique Sound like some failed singer trying to cope.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 20:12:44 2021 No.1466446 Listen to her cover of lost boys

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 20:13:05 2021 No.1466470 Gura needs to cover a David Lee Roth era Van Halen song. Ain’t Talkin Bout Love, Panama, Hot For Teacher, something like that. I want to see her channel Diamond Dave. How do we make this happen?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 20:13:31 2021 No.1466509 Nah Towa is best.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 20:13:34 2021 No.1466513 >Gura: sniffs You guys... >Kiara: MY CATS GURA MY CATS! Can someone transcribe? I couldn't hear over the clucking.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 20:15:42 2021 No.1466665 >>1450843 Its holoEN, they only know garbage American singers. Gura has a cute voice but it's far from the best, in hololive or compared to other vtubers

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 20:19:49 2021 No.1466944 >>1466665 >Gura has a cute voice but it's far from the best Well, yeah-- >in hololive Nigga, you high.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 20:56:55 2021 No.1468832 File: 889 KB, 2572x2160, polka_0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1452735 Song ID?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:02:10 2021 No.1469079 >>1452777 I kneeled so low I'm laying on the ground in a coma.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:09:09 2021 No.1469376 >>1450843 Let them think that so you can understand how wrong they are and hope they'll never stumble upon your oshi or any Holo you think is the best singer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:10:38 2021 No.1469450 >>1450843 it's a shitpost that gets replies. it's like saying NARUTO IS THE BEST ANIME OF ALL TIME. Easy (you)'s.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:19:59 2021 No.1470015
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>>1450843
>>1450843
There are two things chumtards bring up that make me feel more bias against her every time her singing comes up. The fact that she isn't trained, and the falsehood that she is new to singing. Im not even gonna get into the "shes new" shit because its just false and anyone who believes it needs to neck themselves.

So on her not being trained, no she isn't trained but that can be said for literally 75% of Hololive and more than 50% of them sing better than Gura. I think only 4 or 5 are ""trained"" and only one has been trained professionally. Saying she isnt trained to make her seem more impressive just reeks of trying to give her the edge at any point she can get, I said it before in another thread she isn't bad, not at all, but shes marketable. She has the kind of marketable voice like a Billie Ellish or an Ariana Grande, yeah they have some talent but they have a certain voice and cadence that make the simps jizz for her on que. Shes the kinda singer who'd win American Idol or THE VOICE, not because shes a technical marvel or a powerhouse on the mic, but because she has a voice thatll make normies cream themsevles over. Again she isn't a BAD singer, but in terms of quality she wouldnt even hit top 10 in all of Cover (counting every branch of Cover Holostars and all).

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:23:34 2021 No.1470193 >>1470015 >more than 50% of them sing better than Gura Objectively false.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:26:45 2021 No.1470325 >>1470193 >Objectively >Subjective argument Chumcucks, everyone

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:27:41 2021 No.1470368 >>1470325 >There aren't quantifiable metrics for singing. k bud

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:29:19 2021 No.1470475

>>1451151
>sen is actually pretty good friends with belle
Why do people keep making shit up? She literally talked about this and how she was offered to do the vocals out of the blue. There is zero known interaction between the two of them outside of this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:29:38 2021 No.1470493 >>1470015 Gura's Karaokes are better than everyone else in Hololive. When she finally releases an original song you will kneel.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:30:11 2021 No.1470522 >>1470368 >I happen to be an expert but I'm not posting any real data Sure thing, champ

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:31:39 2021 No.1470594 [DELETED]

>>1470493
>When she finally releases an original song you will kneel.
Its going to be processed and sound nothing like the karaoke streams, just like everyone else in hololive. If gura is an amazing singer she'd have had music gigs in the past and Cover would be pushing her singing more, but they aren't, because she isn't.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:32:46 2021 No.1470665 >>1450843 can't stop listening to this shit right here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54YZuL-EhNo

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:33:47 2021 No.1470716 >>1450843 because taste in music is subjective? what kind of stupid ass question is this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:36:34 2021 No.1470866 >>1453444 >Okay but it is warranted because they're obnoxious. They're not the ones who created an entire thread to attack her singing, you oblivious fuck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:41:34 2021 No.1471155 >>1470594 >Cover >pushing individual talents to do originals/covers Holy newfag.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:47:16 2021 No.1471423 >>1450843 Only thing singingwise I've seen was her doing soaraio days and I thought she did a good job. I'm not sure I understand why people would fight over who best singer is. Seems silly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:50:15 2021 No.1471594 >>1470594 Mori has released how many songs by this point? Gura is never going to do shit because she doesn't care about being a singer, even if she is naturally talented, it takes effort

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 21:50:53 2021 No.1471620 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un4RmIOhEUY I really like the tone of her voice compared to others I've listened to, that's all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:14:18 2021 No.1472322 >>1471620 In all seriousness, she actually is on a different level compared to the others

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:19:54 2021 No.1472491 >>1471620 Even considering how different the Japanese version sounds compared to the original or "original language" versions, this isn't that impressive for hololive. Go ahead and hate me or whatever, but I do think she's overrated

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:20:56 2021 No.1472522 >>1450843 i dunno, but i listened to her singing ride on time and unironically got a boner

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:21:21 2021 No.1472536 >>1471594 Gura has much better flow than Mori when rapping, and can actually sing properly, too. No comparison.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:23:29 2021 No.1472626 >>1451882 Nene is only good at one thing (diabetescore idolpop), but she is damn good at it. Thing is, even the dedicated idols have more sheer range.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:24:42 2021 No.1472669 >>1472491 I think you're just biased against EN.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:25:53 2021 No.1472716 >>1468832 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csQgwDNiW6M I love Polka's hotblooded side

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:26:35 2021 No.1472738 >>1470716 >because taste in music is subjective? Singing ability is not, retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:26:50 2021 No.1472750 File: 25 KB, 554x554, images (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1472669

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:28:04 2021 No.1472796 File: 858 KB, 2000x2000, 1600056660624.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1470866 >not the best >attack Case in point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:28:07 2021 No.1472799 File: 68 KB, 888x894, 15811716810550.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1450843 Senzawa is a better singer.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:28:21 2021 No.1472806 [DELETED]

>>1472669
I think its far more likely bias from holoEN fans. They're new, they think they're hot shit because their girls grew fast, and they can't stand when people say Gura isn't the best. Hololive has a lot of talent, and I assure you the senpais all love and respect Gura, but calling her the best is just dumb.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:28:43 2021 No.1472818 >>1472796 >not knowing how 4chan works >not knowing how a bait OP functions Yep, newfag.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:30:43 2021 No.1472867 >>1472796 >>1472818 These threads get massive amounts of replies from retards like you because Gura is popular and her fans are idiots. Has nothing to do with her singing ability whatsoever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:32:14 2021 No.1472916 >>1472867 I mean I said the same thing and you just replied to the thread so I guess we're in the same boat.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:33:20 2021 No.1472943

>>1472806
Except this entire thread is bullshit because the entire argument starting from last night's karaoke was started by people baiting and attacking Gura's singing, not people claiming she's the best. Disagreeing with someone that says she's overrated isn't claiming that she's the best when that wasn't even my position to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:34:25 2021 No.1472983 >>1472796 And where did I say she was the best?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:35:29 2021 No.1473019 So I guess we've come to the agreement that Gura isn't the best and that Hololive is a great company for singers, great, can we end this bait and flame war now

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:38:38 2021 No.1473124 >>1473019 >So I guess we've come to the agreement that Gura isn't the best Admittedly, but perhaps one da-- >and that Hololive is a great company for singers You want to die or something? I'll cut you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:39:32 2021 No.1473152 >>1473124 Alright, I see where I fucked up, Hololive has talented singers, but is not a great company for them and doesn't have their best interests in mind.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:40:50 2021 No.1473199 >>1454547 You're not supposed to point that out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:42:12 2021 No.1473234 >>1473152 You live. For now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:43:01 2021 No.1473254 >>1473234 Just make sure Ina kills me, I want to join whatever afterlife she takes me to

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:47:42 2021 No.1473405 >>1473254 >A fellow Tako. I'll pass the message along. No promises, I'm just a low-level cultist.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:49:13 2021 No.1473459 >>1472738 The best singer in the world is a vocaloid then, which is a retarded stance. Singing ability is not synonymous with being the best singer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:50:14 2021 No.1473496 >>1473459 >vocaloids are objectively popular I mean...

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:53:26 2021 No.1473609 >>1472738 Yes it is. >what is vocal range.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 22:56:18 2021 No.1473693 >>1473609 >Vocal range can be objectively measured and quantified. >Subjective.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 23:28:01 2021 No.1474629

>>1450843
They probably don't listen to many of the JPs who focus on singing. She's the best in EN, and probably the best singer out of the top 10 or so most popular in Hololive. This is because the singing-focused and idol-type vtubers just aren't the ones who blow up. Suisei isn't huge, for instance, but blows her out of the water. Matsuri, Kanata, etc, while all great vocalists they aren't as huge and therefore don't have the same number of people complementing and hyping them up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 23:30:30 2021 No.1474698 >>1472536 yeah, I'll go buy her song right now off of itunes

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 23:35:20 2021 No.1474819 Because she is, what part of that can you not understand?.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 23:35:26 2021 No.1474828

>>1474698
The fact that Mori has released something doesn't mean she's any good. Now, personally, I think a few of her tracks are fun to listen to, but there's also a whole bunch of mediocre shlock mixed in. And regardless, releasing original music is not necessarily the end goal of singing. Improving the skill simply to be better at it is equally viable. Her covers are her music, and they're solid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 23:38:31 2021 No.1474899 >>1474629 >Suisei opinion discarded. Suisei sucks live

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 23:41:51 2021 No.1474986

>>1474899
I didn't think we were limiting the discussion purely to live content - her recorded stuff is fantastic. Of course, even if we do limit it she's still incredibly talented and you're deaf if you think she sucks. She's only a little bit weaker live.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 23:42:53 2021 No.1475008 >>1474828 Calling Mori mediocre is like calling a four star restaurant not good enough.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 23:45:04 2021 No.1475058 >>1475008 She's just not that good man. Her best content is 7 or 8/10, the rest hovering around a solid 5.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 12 23:53:11 2021 No.1475236 >>1475058 Okay, post what you think her "worst" art is.

Anonymous Fri Mar 12 23:55:47 2021 No.1475294

>>1474629
>hey gura is good but isn't the best okay? there are so many of you guys you make it look better than it actually is, im not saying that you guys have shit for ears but im actually saying it
nah anon i think you are just being too dismissive and a bit disingenuous, there is a chance for talent to gather people arount it
hopefully once you get over your prejudices you'll see

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 00:07:55 2021 No.1475594 >>1474629 Honestly, they need to open their genres a bit. I think Mori took off so hard because she was completely different.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 00:09:18 2021 No.1475629 >>1475594 What genre is Suisei? I think she'd be okay doing nu-disco.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 00:13:46 2021 No.1475734

>>1474986
It's pointless to compare live singing to post processed songs.
I personally would say that the only aspect where Suisei undoubtedly beats gura is voice strength, she can belt notes incredibly well (even though sometimes she goes flat in those).
Gura is undoubtedly better than suisei in some other aspects tho, specifically pitch control and consistency. Gura often makes her songs an entire performance, so her singing is incredibly dynamic too. Idol pop is NOT her genre and it doesn't work for her.
AZKi is great too, her style works against her tho, she's often too whiny and breathy so she runs out of air quickly and avoids singing long notes even when she clearly can.
As an honorable mention I think Okayu has a beautiful voice and even though she isn't technically better than any of the others, when she nails a song she really nails it.
I love them all and their singing for different reasons, they all have a very specific style they try to stick to, and comparing them is difficult because the style you like will heavily influence your opinion, for me personally, Gura's performances never fail to make me emotional so she will always be my favorite.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 00:38:00 2021 No.1476204

>>1475734
I said this earlier. I’d like to get Gura in studio and put her through a full signal chain to see what she can do. You’re listening to her on some unknown streamer rig, not a production system, and yet here we are still debating whether she’s the best or not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:04:43 2021 No.1476646 >>1476204 The point is that her voice doesn’t need to be fixed in post.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:16:15 2021 No.1476898

People talking about hololive singing and comparing them but hardly anyone gives a proper arguments and proofs (Why do you think she's good/bad? Which technique do you think she is better/worse than others?).

It would be great if we have a professional opinion to end this controversy once and for all.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:19:21 2021 No.1476977 [DELETED]

>>1476898
Won't happen, these threads are full of chumbuds that don't know shit about Japanese music and weaboos that think they know shit about music in a language they don't understand. Its a subjective argument and no one will ever submit to "professionals" like myself calling Gura a great singer, some out of spite and some out of purely having different taste. The western market being full or garbage doesn't help either

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:23:10 2021 No.1477038 >>1450843 Because she just is, mmkay sweetie?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:23:24 2021 No.1477043 >>1476977 >Everyone is dumb. >Everyone is dumb except me. That's a hot take.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:26:26 2021 No.1477097

>>1476898
I'm just a former theater kid who still gets some action casually. Gura has an decent crooning style but she just doesn't project. It works pretty well in songs that are meant for it (like most of the jazz standards she has done) but the pop stuff is much weaker. I'd like to hear her in a bigger room and actually projecting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:28:57 2021 No.1477148 >>1474828 there is a massive difference between singing other peoples music and creating your own

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:29:18 2021 No.1477159

I dont give a fuck about Gura's singing is the best or not, whatever tool she uses... For me her voice bring a nostalgic feeling, the time when boy and girl still shy and wrote love letters for each other, holding hands while sitting in the bench on the park, first break up,the first time I left my hometown... The songs she chose, the immature voice, altogether created such atmosphere. I don't want her to improve in any academic way, never change Gura.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:31:20 2021 No.1477201

>>1476898
Gura has weak breath control and lacks confidence, which gives a lot of her performances the sense that she's deflating as it goes on. She ends lines early and is a bit overreliant on whisper singing. She undoubtedly has one of the best baseline voices in Hololive - I wouldn't outright call her the best, but she's up there and honestly at that point it's entirely subjective - however there's a clear difference in control and vocal assertiveness between her and the vocalist performers in Hololive. And that's not even a slight against her; I'm talking about people who have poured their hearts and souls into training for live shows - many of whom had past experience as idols in training or underground idols. Gura's swinging is lovely, and she has way more range than I was expecting from her, but it's a nonstarter because she doesn't project her voice well enough, and you can't compare that to proper performances.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:32:28 2021 No.1477224 >>1477148 Yes. Writing music is a different skillset from performing music. This is kind of my point - Gura doesn't do the former, but is still better than Callie at the latter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:46:55 2021 No.1477509 If i want to listen to jpop, I will never pick anyone from hololive. They are just generic jpop singer wannabes #2857282823. The fans are so tonedeaf that even a poor performance is regarded as"SOUL".

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:50:37 2021 No.1477599

>>1477201
She has improved her breath control recently, it's still lacking though, she recently started standing up while singing (which apparently she never did during the first months).
Her confidence is what has improved the most, she even acknowledged it herself. So much so that she could sing 18 songs during her last karaoke stream before running out of steam.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:50:45 2021 No.1477603 >>1451762 This. Azki has the best voice in all of Hololive. Fuck your shit you dumb cumchud niggers. https://youtu.be/h7NE6BoTCIA

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:52:06 2021 No.1477643 >>1476646 Everyone’s voice needs to be fixed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:54:01 2021 No.1477687 >>1477201 So if there's a tier list, where do you put Gura on? I know Azki has a 15 years career as a jpop singer and Suisei had been an idol before hololive, so they're probably on the top. Don't know much about others though

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 01:55:30 2021 No.1477713 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybk0TLI2lnE

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:04:31 2021 No.1477886 >>1475008 despite what your parents told you, Olive Garden is not a "4 star restaurant"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:05:31 2021 No.1477899 >>1477713 This just proves she is kinda a shitty singer. I mean she's cute but not a pro singer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:12:57 2021 No.1478037 File: 228 KB, 400x381, 1573203517855.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1453952 >the world's business CEOs

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:13:19 2021 No.1478040

>>1476977
I’ve written songs for Japanese artists, written lyrics in Japanese, and produced songs for asian markets. That has little to do with this discussion which is about her vocal ability. Yes, her accent (both English and Japanese) is horrible and her timing can be atrocious. Yes, her breath control is inconsistent. Yes, her projection is unreliable. She’s also doing karaoke, probably while sitting at a desk, into a shitty streamer mic, screwing around half the time, in a tiny dead bedroom, playing a loli shark character and modifying her voice, and I still hear moments of brilliance when everything meshes. Put her in an environment where every single factor isn’t working against her, give her about fifteen minutes of coaching, and I suspect you’d be surprised.

>>1477224
Gura doesn’t do the latter and is still better than Callie at it. Granted, I’ve listened to exactly (part of) one thing Callie created, but it was hot garbage. I had to turn it off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:14:39 2021 No.1478064 Because she is. Her voice is pitch perfect in ways I never knew were possible. It isn't even a competition. She has the best singing voice of anyone I've ever heard. It is also why people like hearing her scream.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:17:42 2021 No.1478110 >>1478064 I don't know why I always thought her screams were pleasant to hear and was wondering whether I was developing some sadistic fetish but this might be it.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:19:28 2021 No.1478141

>>1477687
I don't bother making a tierlist - I'm not even really trying to say she's worse in a universal sense. Rather, she has a few barriers that prevent her from realizing her own potential irrespective of the others. The difference being that those other people have cleared those hurdles. But like I said, once you pass that point, and if you're above a certain threshold, it becomes infinitely more difficult to give a definite answer. For instance my favorite singer is my oshi - Matsuri - but if I was trying to be as objective as possible I wouldn't say she's the most talented. Her range isn't as wide as some others, she sometimes picks bad songs for her voice, and she isn't some pinnacle of natural talent; I think she's gifted for sure, and better than a lot of her peers, but more than anything I just love her voice and her passion, and when she hits she hits. I guess the biggest takeaway is that once you clear the skill threshold it becomes less about which voice is superior and more about the specific quality of a voice or style.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:19:48 2021 No.1478148 >>1478064 see here: >>1451459 the consistency

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:29:27 2021 No.1478323 File: 113 KB, 1252x1252, 1561538612555.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1478064

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:32:23 2021 No.1478376 >>1477643 From what I’ve heard the vast majority of Hololive singers need pitch correction, but singing in pitch is table stakes in other situations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:35:02 2021 No.1478436 >>1478148 Yes, I think it is a consistency vs quality thing right now. I imagine people who hear her mess up a line once go in to some autistic rage while people who love her voice are willing to ignore those slipups.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:47:43 2021 No.1478634 my favorite so far https://youtu.be/m8AG0OV1QCI

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:48:12 2021 No.1478642

Point of reference for guras perfect voice:
Some comment on a slowed down version of guras baka mitai on youtube that sums it up:

"Here’s the thing that’s blowing my mind: Generally speaking, speeding up a song helps hide minor imperfections in pitch and timing... but slowing down a song helps expose them. Because everything is magnified when a song is slowed down, even tiny little mistakes tend to stand out wayyy more.

Gura slowed down sounds PERFECT. That little shark girl really is amazing."

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:55:02 2021 No.1478764 >>1478642 >Watching slowed down videos >Even clicking on a slowed down video and giving the clipnigger a view Kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:56:53 2021 No.1478789 >>1478764 For every post like this I see, I go and open up three random clip videos, give them likes, and comments. Fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 02:59:52 2021 No.1478842 >>1450843 >there are people on this board that have opinions

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 03:18:22 2021 No.1479105 >>1451189 >he thinks the difference between an A- and A+ singer matters in anything other than a live performance shiggy diggy, hope you never find out what a studio is

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 03:39:15 2021 No.1479374 >>1477201 I humbly request you to also critique Okayu, Nene, and/or Ayame's singing, musicfag. Please and thank you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 03:48:58 2021 No.1479507 >>1451280 That "guy" is cringy as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 04:07:29 2021 No.1479755 >>1472818 >EN watcher is a newfag Holy shit no fucking way

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 04:12:52 2021 No.1479829 >>1451189 >If you can't sing a full note but have to whisper it, you aren't doing well in the music scene. You didn't have to murder Azki like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 06:10:32 2021 No.1481621 >>1450843 I don't think that she is the best but she has a vocal timbre that most people like. Her vocal is feels clear compared to other holos

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 06:22:20 2021 No.1481784 This one's still my favorite. That first karaoke was the greatest livestream ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEQp_WeBh-E

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 08:15:35 2021 No.1483373 >>1477201 I also want to add that her sense of rhythm is impeccable: when you overlay several takes she does of the same song, her attacks differ by milliseconds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 08:16:38 2021 No.1483386 >>1478764 I'm watching a clipped video right now. I'm going to rewatch it again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 08:56:40 2021 No.1483973 >>1478634 Based, in fact, I like this cover so much I can't even listen to original now.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 08:58:22 2021 No.1484005
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>>1450843
Gura is unequivocally the best singer in Hololive. No one brings the flourish and talent like she does to her singing. Her vocals, rhythm, pitch and range are absolutely master class and that's with her only doing live performances with amateur grade equipment so far.

The only people who doubt this are JOP losers who have never listened to good vocals in their lives, Generic jpop like Suisei's throaty garbage and Azkis bloodless quavering don't even come close. It honestly makes me question if people have ears when they say someone like Miku or Okayu are even within the same ball park.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:29:05 2021 No.1486264 >>1450843 Because she's cute

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:43:07 2021 No.1486707 >>1450843 People who watch the ENs are retarded newfags who never watched Sora, Suisei, Watame, Kanata, Flare, Ayame or Shion who are all better than her. It's that simple, don't expect them to have good or informed opinions

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:44:01 2021 No.1486731 >>1486707 >Watame >Kanata >Flare >Shion >Ayame Good bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:49:03 2021 No.1486873 >>1486731 When's the last time you watched a Flare utawaku globalfag?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:52:13 2021 No.1486998 >>1486873 >when was the time you dumpster dived for food, cheffag?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:55:02 2021 No.1487092 >>1486873 No wonder you listed Kanata. Apparently your ears don't work either.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 11:02:29 2021 No.1487315

>>1486998
Fuck me you're stupid, well I'll spoonfeed you this once in case anyone else sees and realises Flare is a better singer than any EN
https://youtu.be/w-k5TcFdLJA?t=820 here's her duetting with herself during a stream where she sang amazingly for 6 hours
>>1487092
How does it feel that a literally deaf girl is still a better singer than your oshi? Of course you were still on /v/ when she was at her peak before her condition started getting worse but she's still top tier even with that debuff

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 11:05:03 2021 No.1487401 >>1450843 she's up there for sure

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 11:09:56 2021 No.1487540 >>1487315 Gura's tone and vibrato is better. I'm sorry that you're a weeb that has a hateboner for EN and can't accept that jap vocal cords aren't god's gift to mankind >she's still top tier even with that debuff You're full blown delusional.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 11:19:43 2021 No.1487852 >>1487540 That's the only comeback you guys ever have lol, everyone who doesn't think her singing is god's gift to mankind is a filthy weeb who hates her because she's a gaijin. Not like anyone could ever just think she's not that good right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 11:38:52 2021 No.1488510 >>1450843 One of the best. I haven't heard them all. But she is definitely the best in holomyth. Another factor is that I don't care about Japanese songs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 11:40:50 2021 No.1488576 >>1487315 If you think Flare is a better singer than Gura you're an actual imbecile, holy fuck. She hits, like, half the notes in songs she sings constantly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 11:55:14 2021 No.1489068 >>1488576 It sounds nice, and I don't give a fuck

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 11:55:53 2021 No.1489083

>>1487852
She is undeniably good. No one has argued against that. Best? I haven’t listened to everyone (and I won’t). Only Gura and Calli. Calli reminds me of a story.

In my younger days, I was friendly with a pair of women who worked as waitresses at Hooters.

For the non-burgers, Hooters is a restaurant with crappy food served by women in short shorts and cleavage exposing tanktops. The whole concept is an abomination. Not really relevant to the story except to set some additional context.

The two relayed this story to me along with a CD, one day. This fat wigger with a shaved head came in and sat in one’s section. He claimed to be a rapper named Prince Tripod. He initially tried to get them to buy his demo CD for $3, dropping the price to $1 and then giving it to them for free when they declined. Me being a producer even back then, they laughed when they told me this and gave the CD to me (thanks...).

As an aside, I guess the wigger’s strategy of giving his demo to random Hooters waitresses actually worked since it did make it into my hands.

However, it was all for naught as the CD contained only two songs. One in which he yelled “Yo yo yo make way for Prince Tripod” over what sounded like a bossa nova beat from a cheap 1980s synth, and then a “remix” of the same.

Getting to the point. When I hear Calli’s rap, I think of Prince Tripod. It’s on that level, just with current year editing technology.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 12:15:43 2021 No.1489636 >>1487852 But he already gave his reason - Gura's tone and vibrato is better. Now try to defend your point and make yourself not look like a biased weeb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 12:24:33 2021 No.1489931 https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1370784669097197573?s=19 She's doing her reps!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 12:25:23 2021 No.1489960 >>1489068 Kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 12:57:16 2021 No.1490772 Can I get some Gura Reaction images? I lost my folder.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 13:03:58 2021 No.1490955 >>1489083 lmao.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 13:09:09 2021 No.1491108 why should i care about who is Hololive's best singer if none of them sings my favorite music?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 13:19:47 2021 No.1491492 >>1450843 it depends on you music taste i guess

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 13:22:07 2021 No.1491572 >>1450843 >highest subs=highest talent It's still numberfagging, but hey, what else did you expect, aye?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 13:24:50 2021 No.1491659 >>1488576 Reminder that Sora personally picked Flare to be part of her unit, proving her as status one of the top 5 singers in Hololive. But of course that was before the EN debuts so you faggots don't remember that

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 13:38:28 2021 No.1492085 >>1451762 I don't like how often she goes to the whiny register, I much prefer Suisei's style.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 14:55:04 2021 No.1494318

>>1490955
Yeah. I looked up Calli’s roommate to see what could be done with proper mixing and generally decent production quality. Under even the best of circumstances, i.e., when someone other than her is doing the mix, she’s underwhelming.

Gura could be polished. Whitney Houston level vocals, Freddie Mercury level stage presence. It’s possible. Moments of brilliance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:32:11 2021 No.1495435 >>1489083 If this isn't a copypasta it fucking should be.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:33:45 2021 No.1495487 >>1494318 >Freddie Mercury level stage presence Dude she's a cardboard cutout

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:36:20 2021 No.1495601 >>1477899 The only thing that gets proven here is that you are a humongous faggot who is in a state of absolute delusion and denial. Hard to actually believe this is a serious response.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:38:06 2021 No.1495655

I think people who have the gall to say that Guras singing is not good or even shitty are blinded by sheer hatred, envy and malevolence. Nobody should take those retards seriously in the slightest. Because if you seriously believe that someone who sings bad or even mediocre is able to attract millions of people you are flat out delusional. It comes down to personal preference in the end but in my humble opinion Gura is the one singer from hololive who combines incredible singing talent with a very special voice that is able to touch the hearts of the audience and is able to enthrall you while listening. If you check the comments under her covers you will find many people who say that they got emotional or even cried while listening to her. And this is what distinguishes standard talented good singers from the special ones who instantly attract millions. Other talents like Azki or Suisei can sing, but I personally do not feel anything while listening to them because to me they sound like many others and there is nothing distinct about their voices at all. They are exchangeable. Gura on the other hand is not because she has this one special gift.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:38:08 2021 No.1495656 >>1495487 She’s got a good sense of how to put on a show. You can tell by watching her stream. I’m not sure exactly how that would translate to stage presence but it will translate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:38:44 2021 No.1495680 Are people sleeping on Moona? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4N7EhUWOAA

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:44:14 2021 No.1495817 You can almost taste the salt from filthy unironic weebs in this thread who are still not over the fact that gura mogged their JPs in subcount.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:49:45 2021 No.1495966 >>1450843 >Literally why? Help me understand. Because you are a incredibly biased nigger who has no clue about singing. I hope I helped.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:50:37 2021 No.1495993 >>1450843 Because she is and it's not even close.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:53:11 2021 No.1496058

As long as nobody is able to show my a performance from another holo that comes even CLOSE to this one I will continue to say that Gura is the best singer (by a huge margin even) in the company:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82T8yOG5MTk

This performance is perfect from start to finish. She hits every not perfectly and her vibrato is out of this world. Imagine even trying to downplay this one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:53:13 2021 No.1496060 >>1451762 AZKi is only slightly better than Suisei, both are worse than Gura and Risu by a substantial amount.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:54:14 2021 No.1496090 >>1477603 >posting a produced song instead of live Every. Single. Time. With you retards. Hahaha.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:55:28 2021 No.1496125

>>1487852
>Not like anyone could ever just think she's not that good right?
You can think that but it just makes you look really fucking stupid when people who actually understand singing technique have stated over and over and over that Gura is the best. You have hearing problems if you can't listen to them side by side and tell the immense difference.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:55:32 2021 No.1496127 >>1451762 >>1477603 >>1496090 Here is the thing, AZKi is already a singer, while Gura has yet to record. Just you wait, she will be at AZKI level or even higher.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:56:47 2021 No.1496171 >>1495817 Rather be an unironic weeb than some fucking ironic weeb from reddit or twitter or wherever you faggots came from that jumped on the bandwagon of a Japanese medium when your favourite twitch thots started joining it

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:58:13 2021 No.1496213

>>1496171
Not the guy you're responding to, but if your argument is really "liking EN makes you reddit" then you're conceding that you're way too much of a biased retard to objectively admit the truth of Gura's singing ability. You will never accept that she's better than your JP oshi no matter how fucking obvious it becomes because you never planned to enter into this debate in good faith at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:59:57 2021 No.1496268 >>1495680 it's a shame that moona didnt "abuse" vibrato that often. it sounds so good when she do that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:00:06 2021 No.1496274 >>1496058 Woah. Upgraded signal chain on this one. More like what she could do in a proper studio with a proper production team.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:00:53 2021 No.1496296 >>1451434 >even though she has way better control of her voice But this is completely wrong. Gura has perfect pitch and perfect register transitions, full tone and beastly vibrato, AND more agility in runs. Suisei has nowhere near Gura's control.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:02:24 2021 No.1496329 >>1495680 Yes, Moona's probably a top 3 with Gura and Risu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:06:33 2021 No.1496408 >>1496171 go back to your weeboo shithole and kill yourself everybody hates your kind

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:07:49 2021 No.1496431 >>1496127 >she will be at AZKI level or even higher Literally just compare to AZKi's live singing and it's obvious, she's way beyond AZKi's level.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:12:51 2021 No.1496558 >>1496058 Here's her most recent version of Fly me to the moon https://youtu.be/5C0yUzzHVJw

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:14:55 2021 No.1496605

>>1496171
>from reddit
you are aware that most JPs are on reddit and have promoted or are currently promoting themselves there? Fuck there is one JP who literally makes freaking reddit "meme reviews". Still fresh in my memory is Marines cringeworthy pandering to reddit with a "meme contest". Are you JPfaggots really this much in denial or did all of this just conveniently escape your memory when you typed this post? HAHAHA

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:14:59 2021 No.1496607

>>1451076
>People don't understand that singing quietly into a good mic is a really huge singing buff but not necessarily the mark of a singer with good training or range.
>singing quietly

>>1477201
>She ends lines early and is a bit overreliant on whisper singing.

Are you guys high or something?

https://youtu.be/6wBWZ21okRA?t=148

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:16:15 2021 No.1496632

>>1496213
She's a good singer and I'm not disputing that but my oshi is Watame so no Gura isn't a better singer than her and I can post songs to prove it, I'm not here for that debate though. I'm here to tell (You) all that you should get the fuck off a website that was copied from a Japanese one and made to discuss anime if you're going to insult people here for liking Japanese things when you hopped on a bandwagon made by the Japanese and popularized in the west by weebs as soon as western girls realised they could make money off it and jumped on the trend

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:17:59 2021 No.1496674 >>1496058 Ok I unironically kneel

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:19:49 2021 No.1496710 >>1496632 Fuck off nigger you subhumans have the /jp/ board so fucking go there

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:20:03 2021 No.1496719

>>1496632
> but my oshi is Watame so no Gura isn't a better singer than her
You just proved the fuck out of my point dude.

>I'm here to tell (You) all that you should get the fuck off a website that was copied from a Japanese one and made to discuss anime if you're going to insult people here for liking Japanese things
Nice strawman, I never did that retard.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:21:19 2021 No.1496753

>>1496632
>I'm here to tell (You) all that you should get the fuck off a website that was copied from a Japanese one and made to discuss anime if you're going to insult people here for liking Japanese things
Way to destroy any merits to your argument, retard. Now it's just obvious you're biased against anything that isn't Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:21:25 2021 No.1496757 >>1496632 >Watame >Gura isn't a better singer than her The absolute delusion of JPfaggots

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:24:34 2021 No.1496834

>>1496710
Nah, I've been a 2hu fag since you guys were probably in elementary school so I'm happy to give those guys their board back
>>1496719
>>1496757
When's the last time you watched one of her karaoke streams? Clearly never but if you'd seen one since the start of the year you'd know how much shit you're talking

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:25:05 2021 No.1496845 [DELETED]

>>1489083
>I haven’t listened to everyone (and I won’t). Only Gura and Calli
This is pretty common to people who call Gura the best or even top 5. I also notice chumbuds will parrot only a few names especially Suisei because she's "the most idol" of hololive when we have great singers in every gen. I can't take anyone calling Gura better than others seriously unless its the obvious Coco and Noel tier singers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:26:48 2021 No.1496896 File: 615 KB, 961x757, 1605838235654.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1496834 >Nah, I've been a 2hu fag since you guys were probably in elementary school so I'm happy to give those guys their board back Stop being so cringey, dude.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:28:10 2021 No.1496930

>>1496834
>When's the last time you watched one of her karaoke streams?
I'm a professional singer, I practice 2 hours every day, I watch every karaoke by every holo when I get the chance and I go through their archives pretty regularly.

Watame is not even top 5, anon. Not even close. She misses notes, she breaks flow a lot due to poor breathing, she strains, and she also uses way too much reverb to compensate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:28:37 2021 No.1496941 >>1496845 Couple this with the fact that no one EVER brings up other vtubers with singing talent and its clear that chumbuds are just incredibly bias and ignorant of musical talent among vtubers.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:29:36 2021 No.1496963

>>1496845
>This is pretty common to people who call Gura the best or even top 5
Not really, it's probably a false flagger. I watch all of them and Gura is easily the best, and every time I post direct comparisons of live singing from other holos you guys just cope like mad.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:30:27 2021 No.1496980 [DELETED]

>>1496930
>I'm a professional singer, I practice 2 hours every day, I watch every karaoke by every holo when I get the chance and I go through their archives pretty regularly.
Lol, no you aren't faggot. You're a loser following gamers with anime avatars and can't get over the fact that your first vtuber obsession isn't loved by all and considered the best.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:31:41 2021 No.1497015 >>1496980 Great cope post, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:31:43 2021 No.1497019 >>1496896 Many holos including my oshi are 2hu fans so get fucked >>1496930 Yeah and my dad works for Nintendo

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:33:57 2021 No.1497073 Everytime this time loop occurs I get a good laugh out of all the seething. Thanks Anons.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:36:01 2021 No.1497145

>>1497073
The best part is that inevitably Gura's fame is going to attract some big vocal coach/singer on youtube to review one of her songs and that video is going to blow all of the haters and coping JPfags out so hard they fucking rope themselves from the embarrassment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:36:52 2021 No.1497170 >>1497073 At least these threads give me a chance to gush about music.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:38:39 2021 No.1497215 >>1496845 >>1496941 I am still waiting>>1496058

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:39:00 2021 No.1497226

>>1496845
You (you)’ed me so I’ll respond. You’ll note I didn’t call Gura the best because I haven’t heard the others. I’ve only said she’s good enough to make it big in the business, just like I said Calli doesn’t have it. I never commented on any others. Only the ones I’ve heard.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:39:24 2021 No.1497235
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>>1450843
She has the best voice but she's not the best singer.

Also she's trying to sing in a language she barely knows.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:40:20 2021 No.1497262 >>1497145 Or she’ll get signed by a major label and similar or greater levels of butthurt will occur.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:40:34 2021 No.1497271 File: 57 KB, 627x205, 1606699019069.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1497019 So what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:40:40 2021 No.1497273 >>1497226 I suggest you do not waste your time with such obviously biased and delusional JPniggers. They would rather kill themselves before admitting that Gura is better than their oshis.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:40:59 2021 No.1497278 [DELETED]

>>1497145
>Been singing on the internet for years
>No one ever noticed her
>Even been in hololive 6 months and her colleagues have been noticed
This is true cope. Our little gamer shark never cared about singing, and Cover hasn't done anything to promoe her.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:41:07 2021 No.1497281

>>1497235
>but she's not the best singer.
She is. You don't get a good voice by being a bad singer. Her tone mogs almost everyone. That's all technique.

>Also she's trying to sing in a language she barely knows.
And doing it very, very successfully.

>>1497262
I'm sure this will happen someday if she really decides to go with a music career (which I believe she will) but probably not until after she moves on from hololive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:41:42 2021 No.1497297 >>1497235 >Also she's trying to sing in a language she barely knows. So? Even JOPs have been impressed so far by how good her pronounciation is. Go and reas some japanese comments under her cover videos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:41:59 2021 No.1497300 >>1497235 >Also she's trying to sing in a language she barely knows. What the fuck does this even mean? Are you fucking retarded? A lot of the Holos do that shit to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:42:09 2021 No.1497305 >>1497278 >>No one ever noticed her >he doesn't know about the HER vocal coach react

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:43:06 2021 No.1497324 >>1497278 >No one ever noticed her I mean, people did notice her, but she never took singing seriously herself. Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:43:21 2021 No.1497334 >>1497278 >millions upon millions of views for her cover song videos on youtube >meanwhile JPs are barely noticed outside of the japan bubble yours is the actual cope post

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:44:11 2021 No.1497359 >>1497297 >>1497300 Her japanese singing is decent but it's nowhere near her english songs.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:44:20 2021 No.1497363

>>1497235
You know her pronunciation is almost perfect, right? She sings japanese far better than any JP holo has ever sung english. To be fair to the JPs, it's easier to do that as a native english speaker, but I don't really understand what the fuck your point is supposed to be, and your reaction image makes you out to be a fucking cringe retard weeb hypocrite by saying it too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:44:59 2021 No.1497374 >>1497271 Isn't Mori a 2hu fan herself? Retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:45:06 2021 No.1497377 Jesus Christ the weeaboo nigger cope ITT is unreal. And you wonder why every normal human being hates you?

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:45:41 2021 No.1497401 [DELETED]

>>1497226
I wasn't responding to you, just making an observation based on you and others admitting that they only know Gura and often parrot Suisei because other fans call her the best, when she's really just the only one still trying to be an idol.
>>1497215
Shut up nerd. Her fly me to the moon does nothing for me, its one of my favorite songs of all time. You'll shoot down anything anyone posts anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:45:45 2021 No.1497404 >>1497374 The cringey part wasn't about liking 2hu, retard. It was, > 2hu fag since you guys were probably in elementary school Figure it out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:46:49 2021 No.1497429 >>1497401 You existence does nothing for me either despite things existing being one of my favorite things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:47:13 2021 No.1497439 >>1497401 >You'll shoot down anything anyone posts anyway. how very ironic

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:47:18 2021 No.1497443 >>1497377 >Enter weaboo hobby >Insist english version is better >Rage at original fans I'm glad Gura hates chumbuds

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:47:27 2021 No.1497445

>>1497281
>>1497297
>>1497300
>>1497363
Holy autism this defense force. Her japanese is good but do you really think it's as good as singing in native language? She also seriously lacks experience compared to many Holos. No, making meme "anime girl singing drunk" videos is not real experience.

Gura can't do a real concert. She can only do karaoke and still make small fuckups in almost every song.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:48:13 2021 No.1497470

>>1497401
>Her fly me to the moon does nothing for me
Not him but you're obviously one of the fucking fags described here >>1496213

You are so mentally deranged and resigned to hating this girl for reasons that are completely batshit autistic, that your biased preconceptions make it impossible for you to give an objective response to anything Gura does.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:48:30 2021 No.1497482 >>1497401 >Shut up nerd. Her fly me to the moon does nothing for me, its one of my favorite songs of all time So you concede? Good, I will scratch you off the list now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:49:33 2021 No.1497506 >>1497443 >everyone who hates me is a chumbud take your medication, schizo

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:50:12 2021 No.1497523

>>1497445
>Her japanese is good but do you really think it's as good as singing in native language?
No? What is your point? No one else in hololive is better at singing in a non-native language.

>She also seriously lacks experience compared to many Holos.
Yeah, and? They all had to start somewhere, and she's better than any of them were when they first started. She'll get the experience with time you moron.

>She can only do karaoke and still make small fuckups in almost every song.
Uh yeah, that's what live performance is you retard, but she's incredible because she still makes far, far less fuckups than every single other holo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:50:40 2021 No.1497533 Best emotional cover >Gura is an animal and nature lover >Limiter off https://youtu.be/so6PQodG5uU

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:51:08 2021 No.1497549 >>1497404 Well most chumbuds are 12 years old so actually I was a 2hu fag since before they were born

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:52:03 2021 No.1497576
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>>1497445
Are you fucking retarded? Everyone acknowledges that she's not a real songstress. However, we recognize the talent she has and if polished would make her above basically everyone else in Hololive. You're the one who fails to realize that and isntead will compare her karaoke to Azki's studio performances.

Not to mention that, yes, a singer can sing well in a language that's not their native language. You have to be retarded to think that a non-native singer can't sing well in a foreign language. Even some Holo JP girls have good English covers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:52:53 2021 No.1497603 >>1497482 >Prove me wrong but adhere to my specific rules and opinions There was nothing to concede in the first place. You have no argument.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:53:18 2021 No.1497614 >>1497549 >Well most chumbuds are 12 years old care to post some data to prove this claim?

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:53:22 2021 No.1497617

>>1497549
>source: his ass
Most of the randos subbed on youtube might be underage, but most chumbud posters on here are closer to 30 according to the /hlgg/ stats and research. But that aside, no one gives a literal fucking shit how long you've like autistic 2hu garbage.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:54:20 2021 No.1497638 >>1497603 sure son, you can go back to coping some more

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:54:53 2021 No.1497651 >>1497533 Between this and IOW, she obviously started taking it more seriously and went for higher production value at some point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:55:48 2021 No.1497671 >>1497638 I have yet to hear anything from gura that impresses me, there's no cope here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:56:31 2021 No.1497686 File: 3.58 MB, 2894x2788, 1605849511969.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1497671 Did you ever think that you just might have a terminal case of shit taste?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:56:34 2021 No.1497687 >>1497671 If your bar for being impressed is so high that Gura doesn't reach it, then no other holo would come close to it, unless your being an immensely biased retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:57:24 2021 No.1497724 >>1497671 nobody cares about the opinion from your hopelessly ignorant and biased weeaboo faggot nigger ass

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:58:15 2021 No.1497745 >>1497576 Have you ever watched something like Eurovision? Yes people can be decent with other languages but they will never match a native speaker. And Gura is not even improving. In fact she's pretty much devolving with her most recent karaokes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:58:27 2021 No.1497752 >>1497687 >unless your being an immensely biased retard geez, I wonder...

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:58:44 2021 No.1497760 [DELETED]

>>1497470
>that your biased preconceptions make it impossible for you to give an objective response to anything Gura does
That's funny, because from my ppint of view you're the raving lunatic that can't accept anything others do as better than Gura. She's the new kid on the block and brought in tons of EoP fans that have no experiemce with vtubers, so its impossible to take any of you seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:59:48 2021 No.1497797 >>1497724 If that were true we wouldn't have this thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:00:18 2021 No.1497810 >>1497745 >And Gura is not even improving. In fact she's pretty much devolving with her most recent karaokes. oh wow watch out this is premium bait folks

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:00:31 2021 No.1497816 File: 406 KB, 1280x768, 1601945154066.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1497745 By your logic, Amelia is automatically a better singer than any HoloJP/ID when they sing in the English language.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:01:29 2021 No.1497840 [DELETED]

>>1497687
>waaaaah how can you not think my favorite chuuba is based, waaaaaah
I'm regularly blown away by watame, polka, Mio, and others. Gura is just boring to me. If anything her covers of ride on time and fly me to the moon just got me to appreciate the original artists more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:02:12 2021 No.1497866 >>1497760 >so its impossible to take any of you seriously says the hopelessly biased weaboo hilarious

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:02:32 2021 No.1497876
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>>1497760
>She's the new kid on the block
This isn't actually any kind of defense, you know that, right?

People keep harping that she's new and that automatically makes her a worse singer somehow and that's despite the fact that she has more view on YouTube than some of the Hololive talents before she even joined Hololive.

>>1497840
Every time you post, you get more retarded.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:03:23 2021 No.1497901

>>1497760
>that can't accept anything others do as better than Gura
That's because I understand singing and have ears. It's pretty fucking clearly glaringly inarguable that Gura is the best when you listen objectively to her karaoke up against anyone else in hololive. I have no reason to be biased specifically towards her because I like all of the holos, while seething JPfags who hate the ENs have an obvious bias against her. That makes you fags the ones impossible to take seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:04:06 2021 No.1497917 >>1497840 Yes, we know you are a biased weeaboo subhuman already. No need to make it clear again and again.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:04:11 2021 No.1497921

People have linked at least a dozen Gura covers so far in the thread but only overproduced songs from other holos, and the only two actually decent links for comparison are AZKi's and Flare's...
(And that one indie linked earlier if you count non-holos)
Where are the actual JP fans?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:04:35 2021 No.1497932 >>1497840 >I'm regularly blown away by watame, polka, Mio, and others. So you just have hearing problems. 30 seconds into Watame's live Gurenge you can tell she's sub-par.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:06:37 2021 No.1497993

>>1497921
>Where are the actual JP fans?
They barely even exist, dude. Most /hlg/ regulars don't even fucking watch streams because they don't understand nihongo, they just LARP and watch clips and make up fake narratives and act superior to ENs.

The reality is the ones talking shit about Gura's singing have likely never even listened to her once.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:07:54 2021 No.1498027 Why are people here trying to argue with weeaboos? You should know that they will never admit something non-japanese being better. That why they are weebs. I wonder why they are even here? Do they not have their own board and even own holothread there?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:09:48 2021 No.1498075 File: 29 KB, 236x200, 1598755697406.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1497745 >And Gura is not even improving Holy cope

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:10:49 2021 No.1498097 >>1498027 If we bully them enough they might kill themselves and make this board a better, more quality place to live.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:11:56 2021 No.1498136 >>1497745 >Gura is not even improving Holy shit fucking watch her lastest one pls

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:11:59 2021 No.1498140 >>1497745 >In fact she's pretty much devolving with her most recent karaokes. How can somebody so blatantly lie like this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:12:58 2021 No.1498182 >No no no gura is best, you're just weaboos and bias against her! Alright, I'm out. Simple troll thread attracted the actual retards that hate their own hobby. Sage, reporting myself, gura is senzawa, etc. Thanks for the ban I don't need to come back

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:13:05 2021 No.1498187 >>1498140 Because the haters don't even watch her streams ever. They have no idea what they're talking about they just pull random shit out of their asses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:13:29 2021 No.1498205 >>1498140 seen this one?>>1477899

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:14:07 2021 No.1498223 >>1498182 >>No no no gura is best, you're just weaboos and bias against her! Unironically yes, objectively factually correct, glad you understand. >Thanks for the ban I don't need to come back Beautiful, have this last (You) on the way out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:15:16 2021 No.1498254 >>1498182 You putting it in green text makes it not less true

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:16:55 2021 No.1498306 >>1498027 You're on a board about anime girl streamers on a website made to discuss anime and defending to the death the honor of a girl who works for a Japanese company and calling others weeaboos, you should probably kill yourself bro

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:17:09 2021 No.1498311 >>1498182 Good for you to retreated when you can't cope anymore Be sure to keep promise and doesn't comeback

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:22:06 2021 No.1498468

>>1498306
Not him but the problem isn't liking japanese shit. The problem is the too far gone autistic weeaboos like you who like it so much you refuse to like anything that ISN'T weebshit and automatically hate the EN holos because they aren't japanese, and then seethe and cope like a motherfucker when one of the ENs rapidly becomes the most popular holo and turns out to be the best singer too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:23:46 2021 No.1498515 Reminder that Gura didn't even sing for her Hololive audition, literally unpolished gem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:25:41 2021 No.1498554 >>1498515 That part blew my fucking mind. They hired her without even knowing her greatest strength. No wonder Yagoo himself showed up and kneeled during her first live karaoke.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:29:54 2021 No.1498651 >>1495680 Not bad, not bad at all. Though it is a pretty soft song, limiting whatever range she could be conveying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:35:14 2021 No.1498767 >>1496632 Now I enjoy watame a lot. Her singing is great and consistent and it is hard to point out what makes Gura better. Maybe it is the difference between looking in to a crystal clear pool of water compared to a slightly murky one.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:42:56 2021 No.1498897

>>1498468
I don't hate the ENs and I think Gura is a good singer, I hate the fans who came in recently and only ever watch EN who throw a shitfit when someone disagrees that their favourite singer is the best in the company. Respectful EN fans like >>1498767 are a good addition to the community, but not faggots who throw around weeaboo as their favourite insult

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:56:08 2021 No.1499147 >>1498554 Yes, that was a pretty great moment seeing him comment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 19:59:29 2021 No.1503193 >>1451151 bullshit

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 21:06:27 2021 No.1507581 >>1498515 That might explain why they didn't plan to help her with original songs until much later.

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