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14428556 No.14428556 [Reply] [Original]

I wouldn't put it past Cover to negotiate exclusive streaming rights for certain games in an attempt to kneecap Nijisanji. But to my knowledge they haven't done it yet.

>> No.14429206

>>14428556
That'd make every streamer who wanted to play a game angry, not just Nijisanji fanboys. No sense burning bridges like that.

>> No.14429423

>>14429206
Well what I think they would do is they'd specifically pay the company not to let Nijisanji play it. While letting everyone else play it normally. Because Nijisanji is their only real competition.

>> No.14429552

>>14428556
Only /vt/ schitzos think there's a rivalry between companies. Nijis and Holos are friends and would enjoy streaming together more.

>> No.14429577

>>14429423
based retard

>> No.14429674

>>14428556
Too expensive and not worth the trouble. Only game that would even hurt Niji would be Apex and good luck with the pricetag for exclusive streaming rights from EA.

>> No.14429680

>j-just wait c-cover will do it t-too!

This is getting embarrassing

>> No.14429809

>>14428556
A company would have to be actually retarded to take that deal lol.
There's no way Hololive could offer enough money to make it worth it.
>>14429552
Also this
>>14429680
>too
Unless there's something I'm missing here.

>> No.14429916

>>14429809
do your reps on why nobody in hololive can play dark souls

>> No.14429984

>>14429809
He thinks this thread has to do with Anycolor making a deal with DLsite for some reason.

>> No.14430095

>>14429916
Oh, retard shit then. Good to know.

>> No.14430211

>>14429916
Because Cover is too retarded to fight for perms. They're also too retarded to fight for Pokemon terms and keep using the NND tournament loophole like their company is in the stone ages. Just fucking call them

>> No.14430306

>>14429916
I thought the reason for this is because THEY'RE SHIT AT VIDEO GAMES AND NOBODY CAN BEAT DARK SOULS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.14430594

>>14430306
TRUEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.14433849

>>14430594
Or is it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2d6T5G2rrY

>> No.14434696

>>14430306
Aqua's Dark Souls and Sekiro speedruns being the victim of the Holocaust will never stop being depressing, it's a terrible loss.

>> No.14435517

>>14429552
Wheres nijien & holoen collab then? Or nijien & holoid ?

>> No.14435614
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>>14435517
Banned by NijiEN management

>> No.14435685

>>14435517
Blame Omega. JPs collab with Niji and its fine

>> No.14436252

>>14435614
Anycolor isnt Nijisanji

>> No.14436363

>>14435614
That makes not a single lick of sense when Nijisanji JP (the branch most involved with China aside from VirtuaReal) regularly collabs with Hololive JP where the actual infraction against China occurred. Besides, the Chinese like HoloEN. The blame lies squarely on Omegatranny.

>> No.14436416

>>14428556
exclusive streaming rights will only further expose the whores as being journo-tier """"""""""""""""""""gamers""""""""""""""""""""""

>> No.14436460

>>14436363
Note that not a single Nijisanji in that image has collabed with Hololive. I sure wonder why the ones that did were not invited to the event.

>> No.14436498

>>14428556
I do wonder actually why there is no collaboration between Hololive and Nijisanji, especially EN branches.

I’m guessing because they’re both large company’s that they don’t want to introduce viewers to another large company with lots of chuubas?

>> No.14436625

>>14436460
Hana and Sister Claire have both collabed with Holomems before you actual retard.

>> No.14436812

>>14436498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bTozeAkD5w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE-9l0hdzVY&t=3s
Not even going to bother doing your reps for jp ones since there are so many

>> No.14436819

>>14435614
Imagine thinking Niji gives a fuck about China when VirtualReal isn't even owned by them. Showing up for an event is like a normal collab, nothing more.

>> No.14436905

>>14435614
But Debi collabs with HoloJP and Holostars?

>> No.14437058

>>14428556
No game developer is going to give exclusive streaming rights to any one entity; never mind a microscopic one like Cover. What the fuck is this thread even?

>> No.14437132

>>14437058
a cry for help

>> No.14437178

>>14437058
it's called "bait" around these parts

>> No.14437199

>>14437058
Can you tell us why nobody in hololive can stream genshin impact

>> No.14437224

>>14436460
>not a single Nijisanji in that image has collabed with Hololive
>Rion
>Dola
>Claire
>Hana
>Fucking DEBI, with how well known his and Korone's friendship is
Not to mention fucking Mea, with how close she is with Aqua

>> No.14437256

>>14437199
Go back.

>> No.14437292

>>14436812
But why 0 collabs or interactions with the EN branches? Niji has 3 fucking Gens, Holo EN has 2 + IRyS.

Not a single collab, even as a group event or something.
And Cover barely cares about ID. They’d let Ollie hangout with Ironmouse everyday before they ever let Nyanners back onto the EN channels.

>> No.14437353

>>14437292
Ban from Cover executives because they don't want to give Niji exposure in the West.

>> No.14437517

>>14435517
HoloEN's shit is 100% Omega. HoloID we only know of one collab between Selen and Ollie and can probably assume another, both of which were close to new Gen debuts, which explains it.
I believe Selen's mentioned still wanting to collab with Ollie recently, so it's obviously not a flat "no" (otherwise she'd probably be cagey about it, like how Pomu was when asked about Kiara shortly after Kiara mentioned their cancelled collab). I'd be very surprised if Millie didn't also collab with HoloID 1 sooner or later as well, since she was basically an honorary member before.

>> No.14437572

>>14437517
That was already confirmed by Ollie to have been blocked on the NijiEN side
You can thank Ollie not knowing how to shut the fuck up when she exposed you

>> No.14437613

>>14437572
Go ahead and post the clip of her "confirming" it then, faggot.

>> No.14437618

>>14437572
No, it was never confirmed or said by Ollie, stop making shit up you fucking dramawhore.

>> No.14437636

>>14437199
If you think denying a company permissions because of political shit and giving a company exclusive permissions for some sum that will almost certainly NEVER outweigh the free advertising they're losing out on are the same, you might be braindead.

>> No.14437684

>>14429423
>Because Nijisanji is their only real competition.
lmfao nijifags actually believe this? outside of vee-tee 90% of holofags have no idea that nijiniggers exist

>> No.14437696

>>14437618
>stop making shit up
>UHH THIS MAGICAL CREATURE CALLED OMEGATRANNY(a music director) CONTROLS COVER! AND XE HAS A SAY IN WHAT EVERYONE IN HOLOLIVE IS ALLOWED TO COLLAB WITH!

You are embarrassing yourself nijigger. Consider suicide

>> No.14437697

>>14437572
Post it then.
>inb4 Mengen

>> No.14437749

>>14437696
>Omega has no managerial control over HoloEN
>It's all a conspiracy bro
Lol, lmao even.

>> No.14437784

>>14437696
I didn't claim anything you nigger, post the clip or concede that nobody knows whose fault it is.

>> No.14437832

>>14437696
Aren't you a Holofag, even I know that he's named himself as behind the scenes manager of HoloEN even before Omega the character existed. You don't even read threads?

>> No.14437831

>>14437696
The post you were responding to only blamed Omega for HoloEN. Where he's, you know, their fucking manager.
Are you perhaps illiterate? Might want to have someone else look the posts you're replying to over for you, make sure you fully understood them.

>> No.14437913

See it’s because Cover doesn’t want Nijisanji to be seen in the western audience.

I really only watch Hololive myself but I do occasionally watch Niji EN. I can see why Cover wouldn’t want to give them exposure, but at some point being able to collab with new people would really bring new opportunities and change shit up a bit.

>> No.14438014

>>14437831
Ollie is in HoloEN? God do any of you even know a single thing what the fuck you are talking about

>> No.14438065

>your brand bad, my brand good
shitflinging between corpo bootlickers is always a fun sight

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>>14437831
>Where he's, you know, their fucking manager.
prove it

>> No.14438319

Wow, OP. You actually stole an idea from an indie friend of mine. You know how consoles have limited exclusives now and we thought, what if we did that with streaming rights. We've give semi-exclusive rights to the highest bidder and give them the okay to all our games to play, monetized and superchatted, no problem. We'd somewhat allow the other vtuber companies to play the game, after a short week or two delay of first release for the other vtuber company to benefit off the game first or just say they can't monetize or get superchats playing our games. This seems like a win-win situation in our book because they get new games to play and we profit off a little to make more new games. This would also go to cover rights as well if we did it.

>> No.14438411

>>14438014
Oh ok, you ARE illiterate then. Gotcha.
>>14438065
Man, I don't even care if people shit on Anycolor for the things they ACTUALLY do wrong. But if they're going to spout bullshit as obvious as most of the narratives on this board are then no shit I'll tell them how stupid that is.

>> No.14438602

>>14438065
I'm actually more pissed about the nigger using made up shit with Ollie's name to dramamonger.

>> No.14438743

>>14428556
What is this "streaming rights" shit? Why do pro vtubers think they have to get permission to stream a game? Why can't Calli stream Revengeance but my ass can stream any Konami game I want 7 days a week? Is it some obscure Japanese law that affects the companies or what?

Either way, it's gay and puts into perspective how fake and gay pro vtubers are.

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>>14438743
Go stream it right now and get hit by youtubes patented automatic strike system
Making videos and uploading videos is a completely different issue from livestreaming
Everyone needs permission

>> No.14438938

>>14438743
It's not the vtubers, it's the fact that they're working for a corporation.
If you stream Revengeance monetized then whatever, you make some money, they get free advertising, win-win. So cases like that are usually allowed under the game's ToS.
If a Holomem streams it then Cover (another corporation) is profiting off Konami's property, and THAT'S a special case, and therefore they need extra permission.

>> No.14438950

>>14438602
You new, anon? Ollie's been used so many times as a scapegoat by this board I no longer bother counting. There's even some schizos unironically thinking the yubigate is real. Keep up.

>> No.14438994

>>14436252
>>14436819
>>14436905
Don't give attention to trolls. Ollie and Selen are going to collab next week.

>> No.14438992

The real question is why Nijisanji hasn't done this with all their extra collab fee money.

>> No.14439069

>>14428556
While this is a stupid idea, I can imagine someone in position of actually thinking of something like this.

For example, if those Sony vTubers actually get somewhere, then I'd expect Sony to do it.

>> No.14439110

>>14438994
Dont overdose on that hopium

>> No.14439272

>>14439110
Selen confirmed it. It's happening.

>> No.14439276

I think Holo EN needs completely new management.

The JP branch still talks fondly about their managers all the time.

Notice how nobody talks about “J-chad” or “Enma” anymore? All they do is block collabs and tell them no to ideas. They don’t help the girls with any new permissions or content or help try to get events together. Time for an entirely new EN management team.

>> No.14439377

>>14439276
Didn't one of the managers complain about Gura asking for permissions too often?
Like Jesus, if you're going to whine about that what are they even paying you for?

>> No.14439390

>>14439276
I am pretty sure it's not J-chad's fault otherwise her name wouldn't be J-chad. I blame it all on Enma.

>> No.14439417

>>14438866
I found a few youtube streams of revengeance that list nothing of streaming permissions. Maybe you're right and they just don't mention it in the descriptions, I don't know. I mostly have a history streaming on twitch where people have been streaming speedruns and such of Revengeance (don't know why I'm focusing on this example so hard but whatever) for years no problem.

>>14438938
That makes sense but is also gay. Why do people work for these companies anyway?

>> No.14439493

>>14439417
because getting in hololive now takes you from 2view straight to 5 digits.

>> No.14439544

>>14439377
Yea that’s exactly what Gura said. I’m fact, Gura said they essentially made fun of her for asking for “so many permissions” in front of her Kouhais. They were like “here’s an example of asking too much!”

They need to fire those people immediately. They do nothing to help the EN branch and you can tell they have almost zero assistance from management.

>> No.14439572

>>14439493
>Getting thousands of live viewers is now 2view
Numberfags are going to OD on copium at this point

>> No.14439591

>>14439417
For money and popularity you retard. Not being able to play metal gay solid doesn't mean much when people will throw millions of dollars at you for existing as a Hololive girl.

>> No.14439616

>>14439417
>Why do people work for these companies anyway?
Hololive is a guaranteed 200k and Nijisanji is a guaranteed 100k subs, not to mention merch, them paying for models and outfits, 3D models and concerts, etc.
In theory the management is also a good thing, but at least in Hololive they tend to be as restrictive as they are helpful if not more so, so that's iffy.

>> No.14439780

>>14439493
>>14439591
>>14439616
How does working for Holo or Niji or whoever accomplish this? Does Holo viewbot new streamers until they get popular or what? I mean, obviously now just debuting as Hololive is enough, but like, the first one or two gens must have been botted or something to popularity right?

>> No.14439883
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ATLUS video game company

>> No.14440049

>>14439780
Brand visibility. It's easier to find someone in a known group than it is to find someone on their own, even more when auditions and stuff guarantee at least a certain level of quality before they even join. People complain about Kronii but some 2views out there make her working ethics seem very professional, well, they are free to be like that without anyone complaining though...

>> No.14440294

>>14437684
Right, because they're all EOP

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>>14440294

>> No.14440666

>>14439544
Kinda fucked up watching Gura tell a humorous anecdote during Minecraft for entertainment purposes and then coming here and seeing people try to extrapolate something malicious from it. And months after it happened, at that.

>> No.14440732

>>14439883
You know I actually think this stream may have hurt Calli more than it helped. I don't think she's streamed a single Atlus game since then. I imagine they saw that stream and said "Do NOT let her play our games under any circumstances."

>> No.14440816

>>14440732
Either that or ATLUS is massively anally retentive

>> No.14440825

>>14428556
>He thinks Cover is rich enough to buy Epic Games-like exclusivity deals

>> No.14440904

>>14440666
I agree people here seem schizo and I'm sure it was nothing big.
That said, being a "vtuber manager" seems like the biggest do-nothing job in history. I'm jealous.

>> No.14440932

>>14440732
>>14440816
Atlus is always stupid with this kind of thing anyway. Even if she could stream it, they wouldn't let her finish it. They restrict literally everyone from doing that.

>> No.14441976

holotards are literallly children,the amount of cringe of this thread jesus christ

>> No.14442089

>>14428556
based and japanese-influecedpilled

>> No.14442163

>>14428556
Nijisanji actually more of an in on the gaming industry. They are partly owned in stock by Sony and so would win that war if Cover did that

>> No.14443375

>>14442163
Ah, so that's why they refuse to go under despite constantly being in the red. Sony power.

>> No.14443586

>>14443375
Yeah, a few years back the CEO has to put out a statement to assure worried Japanese fans about encroaching Sony's influence. Basically Sony has a big investment in the company and share the profit, however they still haven't deigned to influence the company beyond that outside of having a slice of everything Nijisanji does. So while Sony is a major shareholders, the Nijisanji brand still has creative control because Sony is hand off. It is like if suddenly a big company like Google buy your mom and pop store and told you to send money back as tribute while continuing what you are doing. A lot of the concert Nijisanji hosted was also backed by Sony music itself

>> No.14443755

>>14439780
Have you never heard of viral clips or memes.

>> No.14444090

>>14443375
Also there is a rrat in Japan that Sony pressured devs to give more game permission to Niji than Holo, like OP post, but it has never been proven to be true. It is probably just the Japanese seething about Sony desu

>> No.14444175
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14444175

Nijinogs and their Gypsie future prediction mental gymnastics bullshit just to ensue their Elitism is really Hilarious to watch. and they've been doing it since all the way back to HoloJP4's grand entrance too.

I wonder how they feel when they're lost their ground, they almost couldn't show off anything since Holo's meteoric rise. even their beloved Niji overlords took their self-proclaimed number 1. It's really hilarious to see all of it unfold

>> No.14444182

>>14428556
>Exclusivity
That is never going to happen in today's market
What they COULD do, is make their PNG's have the talent's faces like for Apex, Valorant, etc

>> No.14444207

>>14428556
>this never happened
>but trust me it might!

>> No.14444362

>>14444090
Why would a video gaming branch of a major company play favorites when the name of the game is to get as many eyes on their product as possible

>> No.14444413

>>14428556
LMAO
nijiniggers have now resorted to making up possible future scenarios to get mad about

>> No.14444520

>>14438133
https://grapee.jp/en/169910
https://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1437250140746616835

He founded the branch and is literally in charge of the whole project.

>> No.14444582

are you under the impression that hololive is some kind of extremely relevant entity in the world of streaming? they're fucking mid-tier, no dev in their right mind would risk alienating a bunch of big Twitch streamers just so some random jap anime girl can play their game to 10k people for 2-3 streams and then never touch it again

>> No.14444677

>>14444182
>What they COULD do, is make their PNG's have the talent's faces like for Apex, Valorant, etc
What are you referring to here?

>> No.14444774

>>14444362
That is why it is a stupid rrat. You should read some of those Japanese rrat sometimes. The Japanese are insane
>That rrat goes even further stating that Kuzuna is the son of an important CEO in Sony and has direct influence on his daddy giving Niji gaming permission
>Kuzuna according to the rrat was also the reason Sony bailed Niji out but didn't take over after becoming major shareholders

>> No.14444802

>>14444677
Make gun skins like they already do, but with particular talents. Basically the CS:GO knife and gun market but with vtuber color schemes or even the girls faces

>> No.14444878

>>14444774
jap schizos make ours seem sane lmao

and checking >14444444

>> No.14444918

>>14444802
Oh, like how Ace Combat has Idolmaster skins. I can see that happening actually.

>> No.14445017

>>14444774
You mean Kuzuha?
They think he's the son of a CEO? He's half flip and used to live in the sticks of Japan.

>> No.14445075

>>14444520
>we believe that one of our main tasks, namely subtitling archived videos, is very important as a means of acquiring overseas fans.
Have they ever actually done subtitles of a full stream? It feels like they made HoloEN specifically so that people would not notice they weren't doing that.

>> No.14445078

>>14445017
Yeah Kuzuha

>> No.14445131

>>14444878
It is >>14444444 bro

>> No.14445174

>>14445078
Nips sure are retarded. I remember when NijiEN came out they posted their doxes and they were all swedish or korean models.

>> No.14445323

>>14445131
According to that thread HoloEN is about to collab with Prism Project, a tiny corpo. This lends credence to the theory that it's Niji's fault that HoloEN and NijiEN haven't collabed.

>> No.14446812

>>14445323
No, it doesn't. The assumption was always that NijiEN collabs SPECIFICALLY have been what's restricted, collabs with others have nothing to do with it.

>> No.14446849

>>14446812
Why? What do they stand to lose from a Niji collab that they wouldn't lose from a Prism collab?

>> No.14447021

>>14446849
No clue. Maybe worried because NijiEN has more brand power behind it compared to smaller companies?
Still doesn't make much sense, but it makes more sense than NijiEN blocking it. After all, they have basically nothing to lose (since probably 90% of their audience is very familiar with HoloEN already and like 75% already watch them) and a lot more to gain (since the HoloEN audience is so much larger).
There's also the possibility that HoloEN management trusts their girls so little they genuinely believe people will just jump ship the second they see NijiEN, but that's just depressing to think about so I'd prefer not to consider it.

>> No.14447992

>>14428556
Take your meds
ignore this >>14444444

>> No.14450599

>>14447992
Oh REALLY?

>> No.14451454

>>14429916
It's because Cover got blacklisted for playing their games without permission lmao

>> No.14451542

>>14437224
>Debi
>his
Anon...

>> No.14451592

>>14451542
Everyone damn well knows Debi is a girl but his character is gender neutral and instead of being gay and saying "they" it's easier to say "he"

>> No.14451662

>>14451592
What matters is respecting what Debi, personally wants to be called. No one else's opinion matters.

>> No.14452221

>>14451592
debi is debi, using any of the pronouns is fine

>> No.14452472

>>14451454
Then how did they get Capcom, Sega, SquareEnix etc. permissions and sponsorships?

>> No.14452537

>>14452472
Because none of those made Dark Souls. Namco made Dark Souls and they were pissed about what Hololive did so they've never let them play another Namco game again.

>> No.14452576
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GIVE ME MY ANYA PETRA COLLAAB

>> No.14452649

>>14428556
Let's pretend. How much money would it take to secure exclusive steaming rights of particular games?

>> No.14452770

>>14428556
They never even done it with that Korone project.
Why would they do it now?
Exclusivity has no money compared to shitting on various fanbases, it isn't worth it to create bad will in the community, all it does is fuck you in the long term.
Even console games devs are getting rid of exclusivity because they realize there's more fucking money in selling to others. Well besides Microsofts recent scummy shit with their recent company acquisition, but everyone knows Microsoft is absolute scum so there's no secret there, not even Nintendo are as scummy as they are and they were King Scum up until recently.

>> No.14452886

>>14452770
Nintendo's pretty cool actually, they let you use their music as BGM on your streams because it's not against their rules. I see some smaller corpos with Kirby BGM all the time. I guess Hololive doesn't want to risk it but theoretically they could.

>> No.14453125

>>14428556
>implying that Niji is a threat to Cover
You're either a very obvious falseflagfag or a severely delusional nijinigger, either way kys

>>14437224
Mea isn't niji though

>> No.14453521

>>14453125
These idiots think Nijisanji is a type of streamer, not a company.
I shit you not.

>> No.14453785

>>14453125
>Mea isn't niji though
I know, I separated her from the rest for a reason. The point was going "Streamers that collabed with Hololive weren't invited" is INCREDIBLY nonsensical when Mea was there. Unless the suggestion in the other post was that people who collab with Hololive are fine UNLESS it's Nijisanji members, then they're not welcome, but that's so insane I didn't even consider it.
>>14453521
Fuck off.

>> No.14453832

>>14453785
My mistake, I thought you were a generic /v/tard newfag that only knows Hololive.

>> No.14453967

>>14440932
Atlus has always been anal about their shit. Remember the entire "you can't stream the November events shit they pulled off " and then streamers were like "yeah, fuck off" and did it anyway? Their excuse has always been "if someone watches instead of playing for themselves, we'd be losing money"

>> No.14454032

>>14451662
Debi is fine with being called anything, same with Melissa

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>>14452537
Retardchama Namco loves the JP and EN girls, it's FromSoft being stubborn like what happened with Sega and Atlus.

>> No.14457020

>>14429552
talents being friends says nothing about management
the execs making decisions don't give a shit what their talents want to do.

>> No.14457239

>>14457020
Sure, but the companies themselves have always been friendly as well. There's at most a few rogue branch managers, not the war I've seen underage tribalfags on this board pretend is happening.

>> No.14457399

Why are plebbitors damage controlling

Both of them are Business oriented of the same medium

What do you guys mean that they aren't enemies

You think Nijisanji's all happy when Hololive ended their monopoly, and will only continue to lose more?

I dont get you plebbitors really

>> No.14457458

>>14457399
nice reddit spacing LMAO

>> No.14460914

>>14428556
Reminder that shortly after the holocaust last year, Nijisanji announced a parntership with Capcom, the company that gave Mio 2 strikes. Just sayin.

>> No.14461233

>>14460914
Reminder that literally like, 2 months before the holocaust Hololive had a similar scare with Nintendo, and part of the reason people were so mad was that they KNEW permissions were a problem, SAID they were going to take care of it, and then did nothing until it hurt all their talents even more.
Just sayin.

>> No.14464549

>>14452472
Because they took down archives quickly, Capcom got mad enough that copyright striked Holos. Also they had permissions for SEGA before as they did a lot of shill stream.

>> No.14464625

>>14457399
>You think Nijisanji's all happy when Hololive ended their monopoly
dumb newfag .LIVE was already ahead of Nijisanji in viewers Hololive only got big because they got their audience after they shot themselves in foot

>> No.14464666

>>14461233
>then did nothing until it hurt all their talents even more.
Korone joked about permissions by saying her channel can take at least 3 strikes and it won't be a problem. It's not like they didn't know what was coming

>> No.14465004

>>14428556
anon you're massively overstating Cover's influence, even if they wanted to throw their weight around they are just one of the biggest fish in the tiny pond that is vtubing.

>> No.14467123

>>14428556
Take your meds.

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