総長 + 会長

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For the ケイソン組 and 桐生会

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Any news other than mane-chan screening gifts?

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Here's hoping those presents and messages will do good.

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Last year this time she was on a break as well (although that was much longer)
Coco's 2 year anniversary is coming up too..

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I love her, hope she streams soon.
Minecraft would be nice.

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Hows her mom doing?

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im excited for the nux collab

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>>14347919
Nothing besides what her friends are doing in her server.

>>14347956
Reminder that she reads comments when feeling down. Go say something nice.

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>>14353824
wait, i know this background...

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>>14352736
No one else is, so it's like a video made specifically for you.

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>>14355641
what do you mean? it's just a video, it's not like they're getting married

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>>14356245
I mean no one else is excited for the video.

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>>14356556
they have 3 millions subscribers combined, im sure a couple of them are excited as well

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>>14359571
No one who matters is excited.

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Stop replying to bait.

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Don’t mind me, guys, just getting my IP in.

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>>14360003
who matters? are there fans that matter more than others? i don't think there are nux's fans who don't like the idea of the collab, and the majority of kson's fans are jop that have no idea who he is. so most fans are probably excited

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streams doko?

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>>14361621
Cute friend hidden behind the steam there.

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>>14362178

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>>14360596
>who matters? are there fans that matter more than others?
Kson's fans matter since they support her. Nux's fans don't.

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>I showed Kson my vtuber porn collection!
ew

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Brooooos wtf https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm_w4uRCyZw

This actually makes her constantly shitting on America as taking place entirely in Deathwish 3 all the more confusing since that looks like a nice suburb

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>>14364254
>The median income for a household in the city was $87,252, and the median income for a family was $106,777.

It makes so much more sense that an international Japanese family would live somewhere like here instead of the post-apocalyptic life she describes

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>>14364388
I thought she grew up in the rough parts of Georgia from how she describes her time there. If she thinks that bad I would hate for her to see the actually rough areas.

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>>14364388
She exagerates things for the sake of "America is a shitplace" joke or maybe that's the perception she has of that place because she was too overprotected as a child

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>>14364388
She still needed to go to College in Atlanta, maybe even high school.

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I just go done watching the nux collab vod and personally I hope this type of collab is one and done. Especially since Kson spoke about clippers framing people the wrong way in earlier to make them seem certain way. Then in video look at all the same exact clips she talking about and pretty much give that channel free advisement is counterintuitive to what she was talking about earlier.

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>>14364982
Yeah, it's really mind boggling to me that she agreed to this for that exact reason.
I'd say she's naive and doesn't know the western vtubing sphere, so she must've had no idea who nux is. But she's friends with vshojo and that whole other drama happened. Was this recorded before that or something?

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>>14364495
There was still black people there though so it's pretty bad

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>>14364982
She was clearly uncomfortable and trying to pretend she doesn't care, but there's no way that stuff doesn't bother her. Watching that dude's videos even ironically with her is pretty disgusting. He should at least have censored the channel names and titles. Guaranteed those videos will have "Nux sent me" comments by the end of the day.

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>>14364254
Ever since she said that most of her class was in jail I take with a grain of salt everything she says about her homeland

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>>14365395
It was one channel though

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>>14366054
It's a typo

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>Agreed to do the video for some reason
>Uncomfortable the whole time
>Shows her the very same clips she has complained about
I hope she learns from this, can't go around in life without knowing when to say "No".
It's actually kinda funny in a way, she ended up promoting the very same clips she complained about, she's my oshi and i love her and i'll always support her but dear god this was so moronic of her.

Nothing wrong with the video itself, just her usual cringe and uncomfortable self like in the vast majority of her english collabs, except this is even worse because it's also with a faggot with no tact.

I wish she would just drop english collabs entirely, the only one i've liked so far was the first Mel one but it's absolutely not worth all the other potential stuff it brings like random anituber cancer collabs and opening the possibility of those anitubers asking her for collabs and kson being too naive and nice to refuse.

Imagine say Rushia complaining about those who joked about her neck and then collabing with someone that makes fun of her neck, except this is even worse because it would just take a couple of minutes of research to know what was obviously going to happen.

"I hate those out-of-context clips, they could potentially ruin my image, by the way here's this video i've made with some random faggot where i react to those clips, lol"

This is the last post i'll make about it because i'm bored of this nux talk and i miss her streams.

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Bros remember not to reply to baiters, and maybe take a break from this threads for a while...

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>>14367002
Anon this is already over, the time to get away was 2 or 3 days ago.

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That last bit was unnecessary, but overall video wasn't that bad, it will be forgotten faster than his tweet about dropping it, nonetheless timing of it is really shitty.
And i hope she realizes that there is nothing to gain from the western side of vtubing world, and gradually stops reaching there.

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>>14367246
>And i hope she realizes that there is nothing to gain from the western side of vtubing world, and gradually stops reaching there.
based, I kneel

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It's weird that he decided on lewd clips for his first Kson collab. She isn't very lewd and never talks about sexual stuff outside of quick vulgar comments that are supposed to be funny rather than sexy. Feels like this was a video scripted for Melody and he swapped in Kson at the last minute. I can only assume that he just doesn't really know her very well and probably thinks she's lewd because she's Melody's friend. Or he's a clipwatcher and only watches clips of her talking about tits. Or maybe he just wanted her to react to lewd stuff so he can masturbate to it later. I don't know if the guy is a sex weirdo or not but it's such a strange choice that it seems like that might be a possibility.

The obvious and much better idea would be to show her some weird Japanese shit and make her explain herself. Maybe commercials or those game shows or something like that. That is much more in line with what the sort of content she's interested in, probably would have gotten some much funnier reactions out of her instead of the whole thing having an air of awkwardness to it. But even then it still wouldn't be good because the dude is annoying. I'd take a Pikamee meme review any day.

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I hope she continues to collab with Nux!

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Incels ITT malding that Kson collabs with people they don't like, kinda sounds like you miss the Hololive walls and restrictions!

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>>14367098
I hope

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>>14367246
>>14367276
I agree.
I'm also glad she barely uses english outside of meme review and the occasional stream where the timezone makes it so she has more EOP viewers than usual.
I've never brought this up and it's something that has been on my mind for a long time. It's baffling how much her personality changes depending on the language she's using.
In Japanese she's this charismatic dork pretending to be a badass that uses smart puns and pushes the japanese language to it's limits but when she uses english she's mostly a 1-note meme, like a 15 year old that thinks saying "poop" is funny, all with a lovely but mostly weird accent that seems to be different depending on her mood, it's great for her english utawakus though but then there's another weird issue where she barely tries when singing in english compared to when she sings in japanese.

If i had to bet, her way of acting in english is how she thinks EOPs see her so she tries not to disappoint them and ends up going over the top in childish ways.

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>>14367348
>he's a clipwatcher and only watches clips of her talking about tits
That's basically it.

Well now that that's done, I hope she realized that it's not worth putting up with him to please her EN fans, because most weren't.
I know there are some kson fans who like Nux, hope it was worth it to you.

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Voss...

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>>14368026
It was absolutely worth it to me, how upset are you right now? Problem with the company she keeps?

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>>14367743
It's actually really bizarre how a bilingual vtuber ends up being possibly the biggest case of "EOPs wouldn't get it" simply because her sometimes speaking in English fools them into thinking that's what she's like in Japanese too.

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>>14368554
Actually more relieved than upset, because it's not as bad as expected, except for the last part.

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>>14368026
>>14367743
But there much better way to please her En fans then an fucking nux collab or that massive vshojo collab. It's like she out of touch with most of en fans want the poppy playtime stream is great example of en stream done well or even the old coco fallout streams where she just uses both.

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She doesn't work well with men unless those men are actual fans that know her (DMJ) or extremely shy boys that are easily bullied like yaman, Taishi or Yagoo.
She completely shuts down and becomes a "noises" streamer with extroverted men like with the 2 cancer anitubers.

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>>14368917
Nah, that's really that English stream/Japanese stream difference again. Look at the Tarou collab for example.

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>>14368766
Why are you trying to put Kson in a box? Are you a hololive manager?

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Ignore the nux discordfag onegai

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>>14368766
>the poppy playtime stream is great example of en stream done well
Absolutely, that stream was great and she even made a comment saying if this is what we want she'd love to do more of them.

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What she actually needs is both her Japanese manager as well as an impartial EN manager to look into things before she jumps on them. "Jump First, Look After" has caused some pretty big problems previously.

But good fucking luck finding an EN manager who truly puts her first.

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>>14367348
it's because half his content revolves around lewd baiting, paying random people to look at porn and tell him their reactions. Even if you had no idea who Kson is, you could tell from a mile away that the collab was going to be something involving lewd shit because that's like all he does. Whether it's lewd shit in the thumbnail, or just flat out showing people porn.

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>>14369506
Almost all the japanese indies i discovered thanks to GMMF have things going for them, 18go could easily be a big agency chuuba, Momo has great zatsudans, Kou-Rin is a full of energy, Ribbon gives me a very similar feeling than when i watch Ina streams.
Meanwhile her english collabs...
The japanese/english duality strikes yet again.

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>wanting to attract the coomer audience.
enjoy, you've dug your own grave.

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>>14369939
This nux collab hasn't even done 5% of the damage cancer clip channels did and i say this as someone who hates Nux.

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>>14367743
>>14368565
I'm not sure if she has spoken enough English to tell if her personality really changes, or if it's just how she uses the language. Like most of the time when she speaks English she just translates like the punchline of a story, if that's all you hear out of it, I think that would make anyone sound dumber, for the lack of a better word. And so far every English collab she has had was with sex obsessed weirdos. I'd really like to see her just to an English zatsudan but I don't think that'll ever happen. Or maybe collab with someone who is normal. That Yura chick maybe.

Also menhera incoming
https://twitter.com/baovtuber/status/1469079199608569857
I wonder if he just did this thing to shill his friends to her.

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I just don't want her to feel like she has to keep innovating. From all these comments referencing some of her member streams, it sounds like she's trying to please the fans. But that's never why we watched her. Just play some Ark, finally learn MC, start a Terraria server, it doesn't matter...just stream and talk with some friends.

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>>14370321
as long as they're japanese friends

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>>14350138
>Coco's 2 year anniversary is coming up too..
but anon coco's gone

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>>14370487
She is in our hearts forever.

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>>14370321
I feel the same way, she has this issue where she sets a high bar for herself that mentally drains her when we just want her to have fun, i've always thought her best streams are the ones where she has the most fun.

She had this very same problem as Coco, "thinking outside the box" should be a side thing she tries every now and then, nothing else.
Sometimes i wish she was more like the majority of vtubers who seem to care very little about the perception others have of them and are fine playing Minecraft/Apex without a care in the world.

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>>14370558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJLNLWv-nmM

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Felix has spoken

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>>14371085
sure, talk on twitter how much you've hated that video, im sure it will help her get out of her slump, also she won't feel any guilt, right?

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>>14371085
oh shit I just now realized the multiple genshin clips

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>>14371164
I haven't seen anyone that matters and she knows actually angry at her.
Saying you hate the person she collabed with isn't an attack and she understands it.

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>>14371164
But being a yes man is also wrong. She'll have to deal with it, she's a 1 million subs Youtuber there will be worse things, than people not liking a controversial collab partner or a well intentioned video backfiring.

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>>14371164

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>>14370321
>I just don't want her to feel like she has to keep innovating
I hope she hasn't read the typical bait of "muh creative freedom" in any form or it could be a fuel for her depression... good thing she doesn't come here

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>>14369506
so you want a manager that tell her not to collab or do things she wants to do? you know she really really hates that?

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>>14371164
I think she would prefer honest fans over sycophants. She's an adult, she can take it.

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>>14371408
>He really doesn't know

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>>14371725
Hello kson welcome to /vt/ we love ya please stream

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>>13955166
remember when she streamed

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>>14371602
I figured including the second line would cut off any comment like yours, but I guess not.
There's a world of difference between "Do this." and "Here's the information I found regarding this." Everything in my post suggested the latter.

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21 hours without a tweet...
No good morning tweet...

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>>14371875
it's been 84 years....

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>>14373275
>Here's the information I found regarding this.
What information she needs to know? You think she doesn't know what he talked about her already? what is the "big problem" she jumped here? It's feels like you wanted her manager to say "don't collab with him because some group on your fanbase might not like it" which it wouldn't be in the mind of her manager unless she dislike nux (and it wouldn't be a real reason to call the collab off)

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>>14374339
>What information she needs to know?
"Many of your English fans hate him, he just had a big drama spergout and is fighting with your other English vtuber friends, his fans all hate your Vshojo friends, he will now constantly show up in your chat asking you to do stuff and it will be annoying"

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>>14374524
>Many of your English fans hate him
not a real reason to cancel the collab
>he just had a big drama spergout and is fighting with your other English vtuber friends
they recorded the video the 30th vshoujo had already apologies to him
>his fans all hate your Vshojo friends
all million of people hate them,sure
>he will now constantly show up in your chat
he already wrote her chat like twice
>asking you to do stuff and it will be annoying
both have other things to do

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>>14371085
based felix giving an honest unfiltered opinion

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>>14374339
>collabing with a drama point for the group she was trying to warm up with
>he includes things she's specifically called out as things she hates before
It was probably the third least-thoughtful thing she's done to date; at least it'll get memory-holed real quick and it's pretty unlikely any of the VS's would hold it against her for long.

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Not going to bother watching the video.
I have avoided all his content since last year when he called Korone and rushia fake whores.

It doesn't matter if she makes a super wholesome video with narukami or logan paul or hero hei - the point is you don't fucking associate yourself with scum.

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>>14378840
Based

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>>14377467
>implying that any vshoujo would get mad at her for making one collab the guys all of them apologies to

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>>14379620
They literally all hate him except Mel and Zen. They did long before the drama. They are appearing to maintain a professional relationship publicly but they clearly do not like him.

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https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1469158280769716227

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>>14380363
Yea... more friends... yay

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>>14378840
She's suing a site that misquoted her to attack hololive, it's a shame she doesn't have an EN manager to do background checks.

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>>14380363
my new oshi is polka
it was nice knowing you guys

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>>14380363
I doubt they will ever collab again, but if he becomes a regular i'm also done.

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I guess she just validated this video
https://youtu.be/yWLsy9w0zTE

So looks like she actually was forced out of hololive by the management because of China.
She's called someone who said this a friend, so he probably knew more than I did.

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>>14380746
That's on another channel not linked in his twitter bio, she probably hasn't seen it.

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>>14380696
The video talks about collabing again
She called him a new friend.
A majority of her old time western fans too are happy with the video.

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>>14380811
>The video talks about collabing again
Yes, just like how she wanted to collab with Jukari again, she always says that, doesn't really mean anything.
I'm not worried, i genuinely doubt she'll ever collab again.
Still, if she does, i will leave.

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>>14380696
They probably will anon once your on one nux video the chances to appear on another go up a lot because guests repeat a lot. So be prepared to see her hang out with nux little gang I can already see the FeFe and Lost Pause collab coming up next.

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>>14380800
she admitted to researching him well enough that she's even seen his R34

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>>14380976
>she admitted to researching him well enough
lol

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>>14380811
>A majority of her old time western fans too are happy with the video.
I see you don't use discord

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>>14380746
>>14380800
>>14380976
There's another factor to consider that this was an ignorant take out of sheer frustration over the situation that he more or less dropped by now. Need a reminder that a shitton of emotional fans were blaming Cover or eating up any rrats they found before calming down? Hell, even saw someone who unironically clung to a rrat that her dad was somehow forcing her to graduate.

>>14380870
>>14380960
And at worst I'd expect for her to initially tinker around with friends to see how it turns out, but not to the point of being a common thing.
The goal to make a ton of friends and obligations to maintain them will probably propel her to not disregard anything since, like it or not, she's extremely accepting in nature when most others aren't. And probably not to make more drama in her inner circle.

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>>14381010
>that wasn't too bad
>wholesome
>that was fun
>I guess I was biased, the video was actually nice
>I liked the clips and ksons reaction but I don't like nux
>what a great video to start my day
>video's pretty fun ngl
>thanks god the video isn't controversial - because it is really good

And then a discussion between 3 people who didn't like it about why they shouldn't tell her.

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>>14381309
>that he more or less dropped by now
I would really appreciate it if you provided any source for this

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>>14381309
I mean the video is still online. If he knows it's a lie I would expect him to remove it.

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The people saying she for sure won't collab with him again stink of copium. I won't deny reality. Time to move on from kson.

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>>14381309
More nux trash = I drop vtubers entirely and maybe i'll check back on her in a year, simple as.
I can't stand that faggot and her calling him a friend already makes me seethe, the only reason i haven't left already is the fact that she calls everyone a friend.
t. Been watching her since March 2020, i'm this anon >>14380696 so not trying to samefag.

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>>14381519
Yea he's definitely going to be on meme review and ruin it.

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>>14381581
if one of us found nux and killed him in minecraft that would never be a problem, just an idea

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>>14381352
This video pretty much reinforces the coomer clips that she already complained about. This pretty much guaranteed a spot to appear in future nux videos. I can't wait I donated 1000 bucks to have kson show me her browser history video. He was already appearing in the chat and this is only going to make it worst since it invites the nux kids to her channel.

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>>14381538
At this point I spend more time watching Coco archives than I watch kson anyway.
Asacoco and a lot of other stuff she did with her old friends is actually rewatchable.

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>>14381686
Nah, kson is just as good as Coco for those like me who enjoy her solo streams.
But i won't be watching her join all the cancer anitubers and collab with more western trash, if this keeps up i'm done.

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>>14380468
I guess it's only a problem if they are using Her ["kson"] to attack hololive.
Since maybe she doesn't want to have to deal with them.
I thought it had something to do with being on good terms with them. But maybe it was just avoiding having to face/answer to them about anything.

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>>14381538
If he appears more than like once every 6 months I'm unsubbing and moving on. I literally avoid youtubers like him and watch Kson because she is as far removed from that nonsense as possible. Now he's in the Kson gang. I wish she didn't speak English.

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Hopefully this collab will filter all the EN dramafaggots because like the chinese, they are some of the worst type of fanbases.
As for nux, didn't know much about him prior to all this controversy. As long as he does not do anything bad to Kson and maintain a certain degree of vtuber professionalism during collabs, I can at least tolerate any future collabs even if he does not sound like such a great person.

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>>14381872
>maintain a certain degree of vtuber professionalism
Like showing her the same nobra clip that she just complained about a week prior to this recording? Or asking her if she eats cum IRL which is a NG for her. The guy is a trainwreck.

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>>14381978
>Or asking her if she eats cum IRL which is a NG for her.
Did that actually happen? i only watched like 30 seconds, do you have a timestamp?

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>>14382078
After like 15 minutes, I don't remember exactly

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>>14381978
We can see whether she disliked such jokes by whether she collabs with him in the future or not. I don't mind either way because ultimately it will be her choice.

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>>14382111
I shouldn't have watched more, this is like mental rape, exposing her to more western vtuber garbage.

Hope she's done with this or i'll really miss her.

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>>14382334
Her old channel is still up with loads of excellent videos that are extremely rewatchable.
If I can rewatch bleach and one piece I can rewatch Coco.

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Why is the quality difference between her Japanese and English friends so different it's crazy. On one side we have people like kou-rin and the other side we have fucking nux.

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>>14382644
Well different culture have their different takes on entertainment. It the matter of your takes and preferences like subs vs dubs

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>>14382644
The only good partner she has on the English side is Pikamee, who is Japanese.

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Ok, maybe this will sound like copium but there's no way she collabs with him again after seeing how she forced her laugh when that retard showed her clips she literally complained about a week ago.
If she collabs with him again she's retarded and has no self-respect and i don't believe that to be true.

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>>14382972
Another thing, maybe it's more copium but i think she called him "friend" just to be nice.

Time will tell anyway.

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I hate the forced positivity shit most of her fans want to force because they want to avoid hurt feelings. Nux doesn't think about whether he is going to hurt feelings, he just shows whatever garbage he wants and she is still fine with collabing with him. No one should stoop to his level but it's ok to be honest instead of faking positivity.

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>>14382807
Honestly I didn't mind Mel either.
Yeah, she does porn, but she still seems like a decent person. Sugita tomokazu has VA'd hentai, but he's still a totally cool stand up guy.
Connor is an obnoxious loudmouth and I hate his personality, but I don't think he is a malicious person like nux either. (not that she actually Connor a friend either)

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>>14383190
Explain one way of letting her know why to avoid collabing with nux without sounding the same way chinks did when asking others to not collab with her

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>>14381436
>>14381508
Just from him being silent on that rrat after the last time he brought it up, which was months ago. Doubt it he would apologize or do anything about it now unless enough people force him to acknowledge it.
It's the same guy who referred to the coomer clipper as a creep in his video title where he discovered the channel and still thought it was a good idea to use it here.

>>14381872
I'd just simply ignore the Western sphere of her collabs if it's bad and focus on her JP friends where the quality clearly lies. It's as simple as that and requires no headaches or seething.
As much as I agree that the Western sphere is a landmine, including Nux, the amount of gachikoi-like meltdowns and rrat slinging is getting plain embarrassing to see here after resisting months of baitposts. samefagging, and tourists. It's effectively gearing yourselves up for self-destruction when she's an open-minded person towards anyone, for better or for worse and can handle herself if it gets out of hand.

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>>14383457
She can do what she wants. Unlike the chinks I value personal freedom so I prefer it when people do and say what they want rather than what's expected. That's all.

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>>14383516
You're right and wrong at the same time.
Her innocence and good will does not excuse her of collabing with some of the worst trash the west has to offer, one of the reasons i got into vtubers is that they're the opposite of western e-celebs.
I doubt i will actually be able to leave her even if i said it multiple times in this thread but things will never be the same, going from watching everything she streams without fail to having to pick and choose is a huge deal, at least it is for me.

I kinda wish she actually knew what she's doing, that way i could simply hate her and move on with my life, but it's not like that at all, it's like she has a license to hurt me, how can i get angry at her when she has no idea what's happening and she's just trying to be nice to people she shouldn't be.

Being her fan is truly mentally exhausting.

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>>14383516
>As much as I agree that the Western sphere is a landmine
The Eastern sphere is much more of a landmine as we have previously witnessed. It's just that she is fortunate enough to have cultivated a relatively mature, reasonable but loyal Eastern fanbase that are (relatively) not as prone to the toxicity of most other Eastern vtuber fanbases.
I hope that as she tries to expand into the Western sphere, she is ultimately able to retain a similar type of Western fanbase.

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>>14383409
Sugita is based. Fuck Connor for being an anituber. Only watched abit of Nux, don't like his voice but he's a dramatuber? Just get fucking Quartering or something, he already appeared on Asacoco anyway.

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>>14384049
The quartering recovered the monetization of several members so her showing him and thanking him was actual reporting.

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>>14383925
>Being her fan is truly mentally exhausting.
Then you're better off not being her fan and can go back to watching Coco archives if her collabing with western vtubers offends and triggers you so much. Because mark my words, she's going to do more of this asshe intends to connect with more english speaking vtuber watchers.

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>>14365070
Probably before, nuxfaggot talked about some "2 big projects" that were in the works or something, remember she started collabing with Melody and that whore is or was close to nux and he himslef groomed Kson for months on twitter.
Honestly I was more worried about his plans to talk about Vtuber with groups and companies that only somebody like him could tackle do to his insider info and shit, he said that at the begginig on that Vshojo vid that now get's reposted by doxxers, if he was in contact with fucking Kson at the time boy oh boy I hope she wasn't stupid enough to share anything with this guy but even talking with him about porn will legitimize whatever bullshit he comes up with later to some extent, people would assume he's just speaking for her while quoting Narukami or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

*Makes the entire western vtuber indusry disappear*
If only this actually worked... that way there would be no twitch EN leeches forcing their way into collabs with my quirky, dorky and hikki doutei yakuza...

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>>14384493
That's a dumb thing to worry about because if that ever happens all she has to do is deny it on twitter and everyone will believe her.

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>>14367246
being an indie is pretty lonely though and those Western leeches keep reaching out to her probably offering her to join vshitshow and whatnot. Also I have a feeling she's not very happy with her youtube career atm Kson is not delusional, she knows her solo content is not exactly breaking new grounds, collabing with edgelords might be a way of Kson justifying her decisions to herself.

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>>14384493
I would have imagined the Vshojo drama threw a big wrench is a lot of his plans for future content. Part of that drama was him getting called out for putting people into surprise situations to try and get a reaction out of them when he was getting dog piled by Vshojo. And the official statement from the Vshojo ceo still has the part where they said they were cautious around him cause of problems their talent apparently had with him in the past. It’s why I’m surprised the collab had him him do just that, though after everything I imagine Kson would have been okay with it if it got posted and she promoted it.

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>>14385029
>I imagine Kson would have been okay with it if it got posted and she promoted it.
Nah, she complained about the clips that guy showed her, her going along with it doesn't mean she endorses it, she's just too nice to a fault and doesn't want to come off as a cunt.
If the collab is done and you don't have the balls to ask him to just forget about the video you might as well pretend everything was ok and roll with it.

[Anonymous No.]

Having an EN manager wouldn't fix this because everyone in the west is pozzed and that includes managers, not just vtubers.

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>>14385123
Ah I see I haven’t watched it, I hate that sort of “surprise” content Honestly doubt she’ll collab with they guy again. She’s seems rather receptive to her hardcore fans and I don’t think I’ve seen anyone enjoy Nux’s content among them. Personally I used to watch him a long time ago when he was a anituber but stopped cause I didn’t like how he was in livestreams.

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>>14385123
I know part of kson's charm is her naivety, but if you're right it's still disappointing to see she wasn't able to guess what the video would be about if she really researched about him.
The people you surround yourself with say a lot about yourself too.
I still like kson but at this point I don't understand her anymore.

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>>14385992
Still best to adopt a 'never say never' mindset given her type of good-hearted personality unless he really pushes things too far or if her chat makes it a big issue that she'll need to discuss. Especially with how badly this thread took to the idea that this collab didn't 100% kill any future associations with him.

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>>14385992
>and I don’t think I’ve seen anyone enjoy Nux’s content among them
How many dissenting tweets have you seen?
Felix left a comment on the video, but decided not to tweet/inform her about it
Voss says he isn't a fan but enjoyed the video nevertheless
The discord is mostly full of those who liked the video. See >>14381352

[Anonymous No.]

Ok so I Watched it
Was ok but still cant stand nux
Hopefully this is just a one time thing
People here blowing it out of proportion as usual

If if filtered alot of toxic “fans” then good. I wish you people luck in finding a new oshi. Im staying coz im not ditching her just coz she called that jew a friend. Shes a goddam adult she can pick whoever shes friends with whether i like it or not.

Im glad the video finally dropped so we can all move on from this huge nothing burger and focus more on just talking about kson

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>>14386427
I suppose I should clarify. The reaction by some of her most hardcore fans was overwhelmingly negative after the announcement of the collab. Plenty of time between that and the actual release to see the feedback from her community. Many acted like it was the end of the world. Sure the response to the video itself might‘ve been milquetoast in the end, but I doubt that initial response won’t factor into decisions made regarding collabing with him again in the future.

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>>14386427
Most common thing I've seen was that it was in poor taste to use the clip, though it's ambiguous whether her reaction's her seeing it as a slip-up that's not worth getting angry over or trying to hide her discomfort to not be rude.

[Anonymous No.]

nux please stay away from us please nux please

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>>14386860
>Im glad the video finally dropped so we can all move on from this huge nothing burger
Considering how dramafags function, this is likely not going to be the case for a while.

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>>14386427
My opinion

" better than I expected"

[Anonymous No.]

Watched the Nux video, expecting YAB, but turned out to be a vtuber clips review promoting 2views. And Nux actually behaved. As usual, it's just 4chan being pessimistic doomers. Besides, if he tries anything that would actually harm her, let us remember what happened to Hololive Historian.

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>>14387388
Anon, have you already forgotten the absolute magnitude of the doomposting here yesterday? It’s died down a whole lot.

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>>14388629
Yea that meme about vt being just a bunch of old women gossiping really is pretty accurate sometimes

Kson please stream soon so these bored mofos can move on already

[Anonymous No.]

I'm actually more mad that she has yet to play on her own MC server than this nothing burger collab.

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>>14388345
Again, no one really cared about the content of the video. The yab was associating herself with scum like him in the first place.
It's the same as her doing a video with herohei or narukami or logan paul.
She collabed with someone who called her old senpais like Korone and rushia fake whores.
She is "friends" with someone who put out this video https://youtu.be/yWLsy9w0zTE

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>>14388345
If she were to do a video with Satan himself the content of the video would be the last problem, but it appears you're too retarded to understand that

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>37
Holy shit Nux spread that 総長 + 会長 asshole wide, you guys are malding

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>>14367098
>Anon this is already over
This aged bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>14389702
>>14389743
So what, are you now going be like the chinks and incessantly spam her about the grave "sin" she has committed, or keep whining about this in these threads ad nauseum?

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>>14386427
I think you need to understand that her discord is so much of a hugbox that if Kson announced she was quitting streaming to travel to the middle east to join a terrorist insurgency, most of them would be supportive of her. The fact that there's like a dozen people who have said they hate the video and Nux is by miles the most negative reaction something she made has ever gotten.

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>>14389743
Some religion say Satan is true saviour of mankind who rebelled to heaven for human's freedom.

It up to POV not black and white

[Anonymous No.]

I'm gonna be a devil's advocate here and post some unpopular opinions:

>>14389702
>that video
Nux maybe a faggot most of the time but in this particular video he does have a point. We all know what happened to Coco. And besides, Nux framed his claims as an opinion - in contrast to Narukami, who framed his claims as objective fact. There's a difference between these in court. Nux's claims would be dismissed as hearsay, but Narukami's can be legally sued for defamation because he actually claimed these were facts.

>>14389743
I'm not being retarded, I'm being rational. The point is, Nux was in his best, most diplomatic behaviour because he knows full well what will happen if he fucks up in front of her or involves her in a yab. That's why I brought up Hololive Historian as a reference. Kson and the Tatsunoko community may be very friendly, but if he dared fuck with them, what he suffered under VShojo would be merciful in comparison.

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>>14390372
>Nux was in his best, most diplomatic behaviour
See >>14381978

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>>14390074
Personally I have a hypothesis that often antis used to be big fans of the people they come to hate. If that anon isn’t trolling I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s in the process of becoming one.

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>>14390523
I'd rather prefer if they just stopped being fans and fucked off somewhere else like what actual adults usually do.

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>>14383457
This, even if her manager said to her "his guy is NG don't interact with thim" which would be an exageration she wouldn't give him the cold shoulder unless he diss her directly (and talking about coco and the T situation doesn't seems to count as a diss to her). She is a NG person to many, I can't imagine her doing the same to someone just 'cause anon is such a bitch and a tribalfag

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>>14390523
Anon, literally every anti from last year was a fan first, she wasn't the first mentioning Taiwan but they watched asascoco

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>>14390504
And Kson just took it in stride. 'Tis just a meme review. Not the high level of corporate controversy doxxing that HH and Narukami used to do and what people like Hero Hei are doing right now. Nux better behave and not make Kson cry or mad, or, he knows full well, Tatsunokos are going to burn him at the stake.

And besides, and I am going to be downvoted to Hell for this, Nux himself "is" an honorary Tatsunoko. He became a simp the very moment he was introduced to her, it was her who were one of the people who inspired him to go full time vtuber, he appreciates her achievements in the vtubing community, and he did express his support for her on her graduation. Kson being Kson will be willing to repay this somehow.

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>>14390504
And this is good in Nux standard

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>>14390739
This is wrong.
Nationalists (who were already not happy with cover) used the Taiwan yab to take over all the holo pages.
Most actual fans who stood up trying to defend her were banned.
Very few switched sides.
A majority of the ones harassing her had never even seen her content.
And most antis before that were actual schizos who didn't want their oshi associated with her (again, not her fans)


This is why this time it's such a weird feeling. This is one of the first times she's missed the mark so completely with a sizable percentage of her audience.
I agree that only a couple of schizos might actually become antis because of this, and very few will actually stop watching her (definitely more if she continues to collab with him)
But expecting no one to rant about it here is stupid. Everyone's already decided she probably cannot handle getting honest feedback about this and there is literally nowhere else to be mad about it.

If this is anyone's first time feeling irritated about something very stupid your oshi has done, welcome to the club.

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>>14390523
i don't think im an anti. i'll keep watching her, i'm not going to insult her or even try to bait people here. i dont like her choice to collab with nux and i want to complain, that's all.

[Anonymous No.]

Nux is someone who support Kson from ex-life until now and he is trying his best in Nux standard and behave himself.

I would say " ok for this time"

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>>14391187
>>14391222
People have already complained enough. Everyone involved have moved on and you all should too.
In my case there are too many real world issues to be pissed off about and internet drama is definitely not one of them. So I'm more annoyed at people whining about this stuff after a certain point when this whole issue means nothing much to me.

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>>14391102
>And Kson just took it in stride
She kinda has to, or else she will look like a turbo cunt in his video. My point is if he was really a fan he wouldn't bring up uncomfortable things like that. She literally said those clips made her furious, and he still brought them out instead of the mountains of funny clips she has. Like the dude is doing a funny vtuber clips video and then he shows his guest a stalker channel of her, the person IRL, being objectified by some psychopath milking her for ad money. That's some really weird shit.

Like back when that channel was still updating it was so creepy and obviously sleazy that this thread bitched about it every day, and this is a website full of socially retarded autists, myself included.

[Anonymous No.]

Jesas, chill for a moment.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop getting baited by Nux fans, do not engage

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[Anonymous No.]

I'm so happy nux and kson are friends now. Maybe she can invite him to her house now for an offcollab?

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>>14391526
Kson can be a double edged sword. She may be very friendly and forgiving to the point of being unable to say no, but if you really piss her off and the Tatsunoko community, you WILL suffer. Maybe Kson was initially uncomfortable with Nux's presentations but she also knows on how he supported her during one of her hardest times in life (being forced to graduate from Hololive). As I said, Nux may be an asshole but he is still an honorary Tatsunoko.

[Anonymous No.]

Kanata going to take photos of golden button with Yuujin's. She said it had arrived at hololive office awhile ago but they forgot to ship it to her...

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>>14392533
>awhile ago
like 4 months?

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>>14392409
Tell me a single thing the tatsunoko community would be able to do if nux piss her off. Do you really believe a yakuza would go look for him? You're delusional

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>>14392668

[Anonymous No.]

She reminds me of Robin but with the personality of Harley Quinn... at the same time.

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>>14392668
>Tatsunokos were responsible for getting Youtube to unleash their anti-spam system and test it on Coco's channel. Now other holos like Fubuki need not worry about the Insectoid menace
>Tatsunokos help prosecute Hololive Historian for his doxxing to take advantage of Coco's resignation
>Tatsunokos forced Playism to cancel themselves because they kicked Kson out

We are not powerless, newfriend. If Nux ever do something against her, we are prepared to prosecute and lynch him. And Nux, an honorary tatsu himself, knows full well about this.

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>>14392854
>w-we are... internet vigilante
you're like the joker but with the personality of batman

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>>14392854
>Now other holos like Fubuki need not worry about the Insectoid menace
Anon... Really?

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>>14392854
>Tatsunokos were responsible for getting Youtube to unleash their anti-spam system and test it on Coco's channel. Now other holos like Fubuki need not worry about the Insectoid menace
At best tatsunokos only tried to contact twitter, do you think nux's fans can't do that? Also that's mostly on YouTube and Cover.
>Tatsunokos help prosecute Hololive Historian for his doxxing to take advantage of Coco's resignation
Her lawyer did the work, what did the tatsunokos do? And a lawyer wouldn't help if nux starts doing his usual videos about her
>Tatsunokos forced Playism to cancel themselves because they kicked Kson out
true
>newfriend
you don't know me
>we are prepared to prosecute and lynch him, nuz knows full well
you think you have more power than you really have, and you think nux cares. If he cared about backlashes he wouldn't have done the vshoujo video

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>>14392854
Are you a 12 yr old or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>I'll stop watching her if she keeps on doing this!
I hope you faggots realize no one gives a shit, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14393065
Sh-shut up!

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>>14393000
The anti spam measure thing with youtube, is to an certain extend true. There is a Japanese Tastunoko (dunno if I should link is twitter, so I won't) who got into close contact with Youtube's dev team and was regularly collecting data, providing them with the code for the spam tool, reporting issues to them etc

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>>14392976
I've been to FBK's chats, and the zhang spam get autodeleted. And before you say "But the comments!" Lol. Chuubas don't read the comment section

>>14393000
>At best tatsunokos only tried to contact twitter
Nope, if that was the case the antispam system would have never come online

>And a lawyer wouldn't help if nux starts doing his usual videos about her
If Nux ever claimed that his rrats are facts then he can be sued for defamation. At best he can only claim them as opinions, which in a court, will just be dismissed as hearsay.

>you think you have more power than you really have, and you think nux cares
And HH was just one man, but look: pissing off Kson got him exiled from the Internet. Imagine if Nux really did something fucked up to her, imagine what legions of Tatsunokos willing to defend her would do to him. VShojo would be a walk in a park.

[Anonymous No.]

Did you watch the new nux×kson collab anon ksonbros. Kino desu~

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>>14382644
>kou-rin
who

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>>14371085
Who would've thought that Felix is an actual hate bandwaggoning mongoose. Color me surprised. Already Unsubbed from his dying clip channel.

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>>14394266
Dumb post, he made a separate account with protected tweets after seeing her calling nux a friend specifically to not hurt her.

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>>14367348
The amount of seethe in this thread. Jesus. Worse than even Zhang himself.

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>>14394266
Hi felix

[Anonymous No.]

Just something i noticed,
Any clips that she finds unpleasant and damaging are 3dp stream, i know it's not rocked science, but if so, either you don't do them anymore, or be extremely careful while doing it. There's third option, you simply don't give a single fuck about clipfags, but as we know, she clearly do.
I think the decision to not separate her 3d(mildom)-2d(youtube) streams is taxing her mentally, making easier for clipfags to thrive, and in the end the general opinion of her will be shaped by those clipfags she despise, and she won't be able to do anything about it.
Sometimes i feel like she doesn't have a plan for herself going forward, just random shootings into the ether, hoping something will stick(thus, ongoing slump)

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>>14394309
Good on him. but hating for the sake of hating is pretty fucking shallow. I don't like nux(I have his channel blocked because youtube algorithm is too aggressive with his videos) but even I have to admit that the collab was decently funny. If there's no backlash when Kson is collabing with Vshojo then cringe nux is a safebet too.

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>>14394470
>Any clips that she finds unpleasant and damaging are 3dp stream
we got confirmation that she is actually fine with it from the recent nux collab! Even a channel like meki is fine so all 3dpd clips are greenlighted now

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>>14394470
This. Kson finds camstreams to be too much work to prep for. I think the only reason she hasn't stopped doing irl on youtube is because 1.her yt fans want irl and 2.her channel is 70% irl anyway.

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>>14394726
You do realize she's not reading this thread, right? what's the point of self-hating and baiting yourself? We already know this was stupid, how much more time do you need to vent? it's getting boring

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>>14394823
doomposting will continue until kson streams

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>>14394816
>her channel is 70% irl anyway
For now. But her content since August has been vtuber stuff so not for long really.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKeEVTpHQd0
The girls should just force her back to hololive at this point. Matsuri onegai...

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>>14395100
Despite her poor choice of collabs on the EN side, she's been much more stable mentally than she's ever been.

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>>14394816
>her channel is 70% irl anyway
more like 30%

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>>14394569

This. I don't have an ounce of fondness for Nux, but the video was fine and even entertaining in parts. The only drama it's creating is from people freaking out about all the drama it's going to create, if's a fucking infinite loop of stupidity.

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>>14394816

When she originally debuted with her new model her intention was to keep all the IRL stuff to mildom and go Avatar only on youtube, but she realized pretty quickly only a couple of schizos actually gave a shit about her not iRL streaming so she gave it up.

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>>14395266
Yes.
It doesn't matter who she collabs with, as long as the content is good (talk about tasting the guys seed, and checking out his R34 art etc.) it's all good.
Meme review with hero hei soon!

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>>14395148
Yes. Especially in the past 3 days.

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>>14395862
Taking a break when you don't feel like it or can't come up with something is infinitely more healthy than forcing yourself to stream like she did back in hololive.

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>>14365395
Kson is the one who decided to collab with nux so I'm certain that everything in the collab had to have been approved/reviewed first, before uploading. Kson is not your child. Stop babying her and use your brain.

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>>14395797
>talk about tasting the guys seed, and checking out his R34
Jealous much? Rumoa Rumao

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>>14396223
> Stop babying her and use your brain
It's not babying it's just I think getting associated with nux in the long run is just not an good idea. But if she wants to hang out with people like nux then that on her.

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>>14396223
People want to believe she was uncomfortable because the alternative that she approves of that content is worse.

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>>14396682
She obviously approves the content
Didn't you see her tweet after that?

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>>14396649
As opposed to her collabing with Vshojo, eventually appearing on Trashtaste and collaging with Connor right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14396757
yes she is not my oshi anymore even if others cling to the hope that she was forced by nux to collab at gunpoint.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you hate the guy so much anyway?
He's Kson's friend and if she knew how you guys are reacting over this then I'm pretty sure she would rather you guys fuck off instead of him.
Remember that you're just a fan and he's a friend, if you can't stomach that then you're not welcome here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14397013
Trying too hard

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>>14397073
Go back to your anti thread, Zhang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14397013
>>14397108
>you're not welcome here

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>>14393000
> Tatsunokos contected Youtube and make them fix their shit.
> Coco channel is testing ground

Source : Look at Youtube Japan around April - May you can find evidence there

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>>14397591
I doubt tatsunokos were solely responsible for making YouTube do anything, but sure, let's say they did. How would they do the same with nux? The hordes of people he pisses off with every video can't do shit to him and his 2 millions children. Do you think he'd be afraid of JOPs or the few (compared to his) kson's English fans? By writing bad words under his tweets? Please, try to use your brain.

[Anonymous No.]

Not Nuxfag but I think we should move on in this matter.

At least, Nux behave himself unlike previous video with other indies.

I watched 24.48 minutes video and I found stupid idiot but try hard to collab with his oshi with his best.
Yes, Nux shown stupid idiot side almost the end of video but I can endure it because I understand Nux's nature and he limit it.

I would say " ok for this time " again

Move on and it is not that bad

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>>14396757
Yes. She calls him her friend, she chose to collab with him, she shared his tweets. With her actions she's saying all the clickbaits video are now OK, and that all the rrats he said before are probably true.

[Anonymous No.]

>collab'd with connor
>okay it's just one time
>collab'd with nux
>o-okay maybe this one too
you guys are so pathetic with this copium
just accept the fact that she'll collab with anyone at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>all this complaining when nothing is going to change
How about you complain it directly to her on twitter or send a message on her free chat? All you faggots and your incoherent ramblings only shit up the thread.

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>>14397895
> Tatsunokos really did everything
> Tatsunokos stole spam- program name CV-6 from chink NGA site and sent it to Youtube for analyze.
> Tatsunokos destroyed spam discord which built by Artiafags ( Andy) with the Judas inside of them.
> that is reason why no Chink spam in 1m congraturation stream ( freindly for kid Asacoco stream) because Tatsunokos fighted back at that time and they cannot spam.

They can doxx a lot of spammer with this action

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>>14398187
She would just block these retards on Twitter lol

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>>14397959
We all moved on but there's 1 or 2 retards that have nothing better to do than shit up the thread constantly for the last couple of days.

[Anonymous No.]

Tatsunoko infritrated spam discord built by Artia discord faggots and destroy it from inside. They destroyed other spam dircords several times until they fleed to Reddit and built Anti's HQ

https://youtu.be/klMKoGJJUeo https://youtu.be/60ptlJDgBm8 https://youtu.be/Vp2WwyK1zsY https://youtu.be/MDtmGw459iI

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>>14398369
Because with kson's slump there is nothing else to post to bump the thread. The timing couldn't possibly be worse.

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>>14398369
It's pretty blatant that at this point there's some samefag here literally arguing with himself hoping to get a rise out of someone. It's not really worth paying attention to.

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>>14398339
Zhang

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>>14398152
>>14397073
>>14395100

So pretty much holobronies that want to cause drama and make kson go back to hololive coz they miss coco and cant stand watching her without sucking yagoo’s dick

Fuck man get over it you faggots shes better off now as an indie whether you agree with it or not stop being selfish pricks

She cant even return to hololive anyways without triggering the zhangs again and then what? Shes gonna be miserable again and restricted and be barred for collabs by the management?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14366276
/thread.
Bitch's just way too fucking nice, this >>14384880
is also happening. Collabing with this leech faggot was a mistake.

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>>14398447
Can you not show that bitch here again bro

If theres one thing i dislike more than nux its that traitor

[Anonymous No.]

>>14398828
Sorry my bad

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>>14398733
Its as sad as those chinks harrasing aqua to retire because they want her to stream only on bilibili

[Anonymous No.]

>>14398733
I really want her collab with Fubuki at least single time.

> Unarchived Fubuki stream after graduation.

Please god, make it come true....

[Anonymous No.]

still waiting for the sora karaoke collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>14399044
Holobronies out.

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>>14398733
>>14398917


This no way on the same scale on that. Some people prefer her collabs as coco verus the one's she doing as kson. Plus a lot of her fans are hololive fans so course they want to see her interact with hololive members again and the takoyaki party is proof because the the takyoaki party is one of her most popular vods and guess who in it. Another example people paying for mildiom membership just to hear Kanata snores versus just herself.

[Anonymous No.]

on another note, 18-go got addicted to Minecraft quite hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14398733
>>14398917
Better to remove the "会長" and "桐生会" from the title

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>>14399044
>>14399264
please don't bring up those names here
they're all useless "senpai" who would rather suck on corpo cock than protect their so called "friend"

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>>14399443
Stop samefagging and falseflagging retard, everyone can tell it's you.

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>>14399601
not him, i still want the sora karaoke collab. dont really care about "corpo cock".

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>>14399767
>not him
Yeah sure.
Get the fuck out retard

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>>14399443
>>14399601
I'm starting to think you're the one replying to himself.

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>>14399044
Man you people are sad

Also worse that what you dramafags are doing now is just gonna hurt both parties and their fandoms

Let it go buddy shes already gone. Shes kson now. Time to move on. Stop forcing somethinf that will make her unhappy

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>>14399287
You you you all (YOU)s you are pretty selfish and menhera

it makes her miserable dont force something that cannot happen anymore

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>>14397978
He does worse than clickbait and narratives, see this:
https://youtu.be/K004pWVDow0?t=5756
Kumichou explicitly tells her fans to not do those sorts of things specifically for the reasons Vei talked about, then becomes best buds with a guy who does it more than anyone. That's why her fans are torn over this, she's either made a huge mistake or she's suddenly become a massive hypocrite.

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>>14400754
Dude just stfu

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>>14400754
I think she wants to overlook shitty behavior when it's her friends. Classic ingroup bias. It is hypocritical but it's a common human flaw sadly.

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>>14400930
No you shut up this proves my point exactly. Nux just want to hang out with kson to pretty much for clout reasons. So expect that man to show up in kson chat more often.

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I think the anons here are more upset about other anons not being upset.
I'm glad she's feeling better
I don't give a fuck about nux, so I'm just going to avoid any future content with him
I'm expecting a lot of future collabs with the EN "crowd" but I do not think they'll overtake her JP content.
I'll give them a try because I don't think any of them are actually scum like nux, but I don't care much if I don't like them.

I will look forward to her collabs with pika and hope she finds more jp friends.
I will look forward for her new content that she makes for her jp audience.
I will support her till I genuinely feel that she (or I) have changed too much for my liking.

All that said, I don't see herself ever overtaking Coco as my oshi. Coco from the first 8 months of 2020 was at peak power with all her friends making content with her. That's where Coco shone - making her friends laugh. And when I cared about all her friends as well, it just made everything sweeter.
Youtube and management were still a pain, but they were always things to be laughed at.

People talk about her being happier than ever now, while she was still managing to get laughs out of everyone about her troubles from the time. She was making herself laugh too. I think she took maybe 3 days off in the first 8 months of 2020 - and she was able to push herself that hard because she was in top mental state, surrounded by people she cared about and who cared about her.

All that changed from the end of 2020 onwards was isolation. And that's what she's still struggling with.
I've said this before, but this tweet from okayu really hits the spot - https://twitter.com/nekomataokayu/status/1456919241723052035
A place of belonging matters.
The Kiryu Coco surrounded by so many faces working towards a common goal was gone. Nothing is ever going to change that.

But change is inevitable in life. New is just new - it's neither good or bad. So there is nothing wrong with remaining fond of her old content. There isn't a single content creator whose best work didn't slowly fade away over time.

Kson is trying her best. I want to support her because of that as well as because of my fondness of Coco. If there is stuff that she does that I have no interest in, I'll check out clips of it later. If she is collabing with someone I find abhorrent, I'll just not watch it. If I find myself watching less and less of her streams, fine - it's just how it is. Friends and family members drift apart over the years. Not surprising that it would happen with one's oshi as well.

For now I'm just glad she's OK, and she's putting out stuff I can watch (when she finally streams atleast)

Looking forward to the collab with Rika and hoping she finally becomes active on her minecraft server.

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>>14402196
Her Minecraft server will give us many great moments, i can't wait for her to finally "join" her own server.

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>>14402196
creep

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>>14392533
Well at least there is one thing to look forward to.

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>>14402196
thank you for the blog post, now leave

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>>14402438
>>14403279
How long until a mod comes in and bans this retard?

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/nux/i

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You know what would really cheer Kumichou up? A relaxing gundam stream.

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On a positive note. Geek Jack finally shipped my merch, but I don't think I'll use them again.

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>>14403947
You made me check my own mail and turns out I got the same notification a few hours ago. It sure has been a fucking while but I'm very happy it has finally started moving.

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>>14403947
Yea mine hasnt arrived yet >_>

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>>14367246
>There is nothing to gain from the western side of vtubing world
That's a load of fucking bullshit, there's plenty of western corpos and indies that are worth checking out and steer away from the twitch vhshojo garbage.
Hell I'd argue western branches of jap companies are also the western side of vtubbing, just the two biggest ones are huge NO's in terms of interraction because it's Holo and niji.

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>>14403947
>>14404082
Buyee says it cannot ship to my country because of covid.
They give 30 free storage and then charge a commission for every day after that.
How much will these bastards charge me?

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>>14404463
They'll hold onto your stuff until shipping to your country opens back up. I've had my stuff at their warehouse since late October without paying anything extra to keep them there.

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>free speech good
>cancellation bad
>btw my favorite vtuber is not allowed to collab with this super toxic guy he’s so awful she mustn’t even acknowledge his existence because of his bad thoughts

[Anonymous No.]

What is with the nosedive in the quality of English for the past few hours? Is this SEA hour? That would explain all the cringe obsessive comments.

[Anonymous No.]

futa kson fucking melody art in her tags

[Anonymous No.]

pls stream i'll do anything
pls i'll take a 10 second clip
even a community post is good

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>>14405051
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1469314394937249793

Here you go. Got a community post for you.

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>>14399318
Never. This will always be a coco general FIRST, Kson general FIRST FIRST. A split is a no go. Fuck off.

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>>14402196
You prolly have a point with the isolation thing. The Holos still can look for her for support when things get tough. But kson can't really reach out the other way when/if she's the one needing support. All she's got is us (and the monthly onsen).
Plus if it's got anything to do with the direction of her indie career it's prolly not something any of the Holos can provide useful advice on.

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>>14406060
They ought to help her, even if they don't have much more experience that her

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I wonder if she’ll ever do a stream or contest for community made content. While most didn’t like Coco’s Meme Reviews, the shitty jokes were technically “our” jokes. I think that created a lot of excitement for them that honestly just isn’t there nowadays for current meme reviews despite me thinking the memes are of better quality.
While the idea is basically dead in the water cause she ended GMMF, I think it would be really cool if she had sourced the “commercials” from fans instead of not having them at all.

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>>14404853
Greentext extremes? My favorite. Everyone loves greentext examples with tailored rhetoric of extremes:

>its not possible to pick a worse collab partner (is radioactive to the group she was trying to get close to, literally includes something she said she hates)
>its not possible to pick a worse time (could have picked last month, could have picked next month)
>her own MC server, made for her "Friends", is populated with living excuses for not collabing with him right now since she had other things lined up
>well, actually she just wasn't streaming anything anyways
At least she is doing whatever she wants and is happy*.
*it just so happens that right now she is, in fact, not in the best form


But at least it's probably done and over with now, and will be forgotten shortly so the threads can chill the fuck out and stop conjuring up situations and reasoning and boogeymen.

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Did I just accidentally sage?

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I bet it would be fun to watch Souchou join 18go in one of her 8 hour Minecraft adventures.

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>>14408868
Sorry anon, i hate myself so much that i don't believe people could enjoy my normal streams, this is why i'm trying to reinvent what doesn't exist and creating a problem out of thin air instead of simply streaming.
Living up to imaginary expectations i think my fans expect of me is serious business.

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>>14409032
I really should proofread my posts before clicking on "submit" when i'm drinking but i hope you got the point.

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>>14409032
This exact same issue has been with her for so long. Asacoco kept haunting her even though that sort of work isn't sustainable at all for one person. Making a name for yourself with really high effort high quality stuff can be a curse in disguise.

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>>14408868
At this point when she joins the server, the best part of Minecraft will be over, early struggle and exploration.
sadge

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>>14408868
Haha, yeah, imagine if she would log into her server...
I bet people would just enjoy that...

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>she followed Bao
>open up her twitch page to check her out
>apex, genshin, genshin, genshin, genshin, pokemon and genshin, anituber collab
>almost every popular clip is a sex joke
fuck

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>>14411882
This is kinda ridiculous anon, take genshin out and it doesn't sound that different from a few holos.
Her collabing with random EN vtubers isn't bad, so many idolize her that i think it will be good for her self-esteem.
Anitubers are the problem

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There is nothing wrong with liking or hanging out with anitubers. Some of you guys act like they are satan incarnate on a mission to destroy vtubing

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>>14412337

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>>14413511
Search the archives for Connor and Nux and tell me I'm wrong.

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I wanted to see this retarded drama shit blow up, but she keeps cooling her fans down. Why is she like this?

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>>14413932
I don't really understand why you think searching for basically the two worst anitubers who everyone on this board hates will help your point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414634
because she loves us

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>>14414634
Because her fans are her lifeline and she doesn't want them upset. Of course you could make an argument that prevention is better than reaction, but y'know, that's life for ya and every girl is cuter if they're a bit retarded.

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streams.....onegai.....

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[Anonymous No.]

>Last utawaku 18 days ago

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>>14414634
She probably mean she's calm though

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>>14415846
Please don't be that kind of person

[Anonymous No.]

>past collabs get lots of art that is acknowledged by Kson
>nothing for the Nux collab
I guess the fanbase as a whole just doesn’t give a shit.

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>>14420347
I don't really see anyone making any other than Nux fans, who don't seem to make much fanart of him, or maybe Agustinus, but he doesn't really seem to have been too into the video.

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I bet her nipples are so hard right now

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>>14402351
are you not watching the others already? Today 18-go-chan finally found a villa, I feel sad for you boy