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>> No.14310639

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.14310687

>>14310220
>>14309422
>It say that since the risk exist that the girls could meet the customers in real life, and by looking at the logs they did find some customers who tried to do that,
You know? That first
>PER-FECT-TLY
with the timeline of Nijisanji suddenly enforcing the "NO CONTACT WITH LISTENERS" and axing Gwelu viewer participation project.

>> No.14310717

Why can't we have longer streams in EN?! Fauna just stream until 6k get.

>> No.14310771

How much money did laplus make

>> No.14310807

>>14310717
Because they dont care about numbers.

>> No.14310831
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>6PM in New York
>The only streams to beat 10k are the HoloX morning streams
>It's not even 9AM in Tokyo
EN is setting themselves up to have their porridge eaten

>> No.14310855

can someone screenshot NijiEN’s numbers please

>> No.14310870

>>14310831
Ina couldn't even break 10k, JESAS. I can't with them.

>> No.14310874

>>14310831
Well yeah they have debut buff. And are nit touching anything debuff

>> No.14310891

>>14310717
Kiara, Mori, IRyS and Sana

>> No.14310894

>>14310220
Not gonna lie, but panic shut-down of the program was the safest bet in all of this for all of them. The alternative is getting staked by the government and have the whole company be shutdown at the first incidence of prostitution they get.

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>>14310855

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>>14310908

>> No.14310957

>>14310771
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/NSlohLExQuk.html
5,937,672円

>> No.14311068

>>14310894
I'm with you there. They didn't handle the firing well at all but I can't fault them for shutting it down. They're handing the clean up poorly. I'm more worried that they didn't see it coming, of course customers are gonna try for IRL contact. I'm no Japan expert but I've heard stories of hostesses sometimes having side hustles that involve sexual favors.

>> No.14311313

>>14311068
One thing I don't get is how they didn't fucking see this coming? Like really nikka? You seriously didn't think that there'd be at least some risk of your employees side hustling for extra cash?

>> No.14311377

>>14311068
Yeah whoever suggested this project was dumb af for not anticipating the side prostitution thing since it's fairly common for hostess to prostitute themselves to customer they like.

>> No.14311521

>>14310908
>>14310831
Seems like a weak day fir En in general. Problem with En seems theybdont have something interesting for the west outside collabs and MC
>>14310874
The holox girls are avoiding debuff content so much is funny. I dont think chloe will touch undertale second part in a while. Hell i think most of them wont play many games until MC after collab ban.
It is a nice startegy but i also feel like they will run out of things to do quickly. You need to have at least sime variety even if that includes debuff content.

>> No.14311550

>>14311377
You mean, the former CEO of Ichikara, Iwanaga?

>> No.14311558

>>14310831
Ame....

>> No.14311746

>>14311521
They won't run out of things to do if they focus on trying collaborative games. I've been wondering what other interesting games there are besides MC, Mario Kart and Smash that Holos can play as a group without excessive outsider involvement.

>> No.14311882

>>14311558
Ame play too much debuff game

>> No.14312064

Iroha just ended, let's see where it'll funnel to

>> No.14312096

>>14310831
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
thank god EN have outfit reveal later to save face

>> No.14312165

>>14310831
EN bros...I don't feel so good...

>> No.14312193

>>14311068
>>14311377
They should've went ahead and announced the actual reason why it's shutting down, instead of lying through their teeth to save face. That would've made people less angry and made this whole thing less of a big deal.

>> No.14312215

>>14311882
Is that or just spam collabs or mc.

>> No.14312220

Sana - Pokemon 09:00 JST
Mumei - Pokemon 09:05
IRyS - Big Brain Academy 12:00
Kronii - Diablo II 13:00
Bae - Pokemon 19:00
Mori Outfit Reveal 23:00

>> No.14312265

>>14312096
If the new outfit cant save them, then it's officially over

>> No.14312272

>>14312220
ens are so lazy...

>> No.14312336

>>14312220
Mori the only chance to get gold for en today

>> No.14312504

>>14312220
Gura....

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>>14312336

>> No.14312616

I hope Mori can get 100k today, is that possible

>> No.14312665

We’re not talking about Nijisanji because they get shit numbers but why do people keep talking about EN when they get shit numbers when it has been like this for a long time? Nijisisters its time to move on…

>> No.14312693

>>14312616
She'll be the benchmark for how much the ENs have reclined, I think she's getting around 80k

>> No.14312953

Almost all of HoloEN is streaming today, that pretty rare and all are getting below they median numbers.

>> No.14312957

>>14312693
40K top hololive en reclined badly

>> No.14312963

>>14312220
Does the west really hate pokemon that much.

>> No.14313067

>>14312963
Is the after game content, Sana and Mumei are completing the pokedex.

>> No.14313069

>>14310908
it's over...

>> No.14313113

>>14312953
They are all streming debuff games
Sana is like in her 9th pokemon stream and is onle perfect breeding.
Mumei is alos just feeling pokedex
Ame is in her 5th donley kong streams across a month
And they wont battle because sana would destroy everyone like she did with ina.

>> No.14313171

Sometimes I look at HoloEN and wish Cover was a black company

>> No.14313202

>>14312265
If Mori can't break 100k it'a over for EN

>> No.14313363

>>14312504
November really fucks her over (family stuff + sick), but I don't know about her complain about permissions, she can go back to GTA5 or DMC4 and fill the time but she chose not to, and she did a really great karaoke for members (without tweeting out) while she can stream it publicly.

>> No.14313404

>>14310831
Fan art of Koyori yelling "I drink your milkshake" at Fauna when

>> No.14313552

CCVfags get fucked, your numbers mean NOTHING LMAO what a fucking worthless thread

What’s the difference between CPM and playback-based CPM?
Videos on YouTube can have more than one ad. CPM focuses on the advertiser cost for ad impressions. Playback-based CPM focuses on the advertiser cost for video playbacks that include one or more ads. Your playback-based CPM is often higher than your CPM.
For example, say your video is viewed 5,000 times. 1,000 views included one ad and 500 other views included two ads, for a total of 1,500 views with ads. This instance means there were 2,000 individual ad impressions, but only 1,500 monetized playbacks.

Let’s say the advertiser paid $7 total. The video’s cost per impression would equal the $7 advertiser cost divided by the 2,000 ad impressions, or, $0.0035. The CPM, or cost per 1000 impressions, would then equal $0.0035 times 1,000, or, $3.50. The playback-based CPM would equal $7 divided by the 1,500 monetized playbacks, times 1,000, or $4.67.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9314357?hl=en&ref_topic=9314352

Also before you say anything don't forget YouTube Premium exists

>> No.14313564

>>14312963
Anon, JRPGs in general are a debuff for the west, Pokemon included. The only exception is Pokemon IF they are doing a gimmick play-through, or participating in some kind of event.

>> No.14313574
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>>14313202
inb4 muh jp overlap excuse

>> No.14313578

she's a singer, a brapper but singer nonetheless, those subs matter and people will turn up. the people you want to gauge are kiara, ina and amelia - if those numbers are shit then they'll all likely be shit except the wigger and brother shin's masterpiece

>> No.14313639

>>14313552
They're streamers anon. If they switched to Twitch tommorrow your cope would vanish in a puff of smoke. It makes no sense to judge streamers by a metric that is only relevant for one platform

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>>14313574
i see no pekora therefore actually no jp overlap

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>>14312616
>>14312693
>>14312957
>>14313202

Mori will get +100k
It is not like she was doing much better back in March when she got 135k

>> No.14313761

Everyone on en is low today
even ludwig

I wonder if some trends changed for the west

>> No.14313774

>>14313363
Yes i know but i kinda feel bad, in the later part of the year the only time i feel she gave her 100% was when council debuted.

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Getting rid of the loli buff wasn't a good idea

>> No.14313875

>>14313780
i dont know what are you talking about but after getting holo number for the past few weeks, seeing two digit number actually make me sick, like seriously i wanna punch my pc screen so bad rn

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loli buff

>> No.14313965

>>14313761
It's the holidays, anon. This happens every holiday on western YT.

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>>14313574
Probably no overlap this time

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Today's superchats

>> No.14314187

>>14314023
Ouch shion birthday live sc getting mog

>> No.14314199

>>14314023
More than Coco, pretty good

>> No.14314213

>>14313879
>>14313780
>two different channels
itsretarded.png

>> No.14314245

>>14314023
Rare Re:AcT.

>> No.14314441

>>14314245
Aren't 2 or 3 of Gen 6 old Re: Act streamers?

>> No.14314550
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Council?

>> No.14314590

>>14314441
Just one, another wrote some voice packs for them but weren't connected beyond that afaik

>> No.14314646

>>14313965
Is still such a change from yesterday. Ludwig was 22k for example. Is wednesdays something special on this
Even the board feels slow excpet for the bumpschizo

>> No.14314690

>>14314646
>ludwig
What's his usual numbers?

>> No.14314693

>>14314023
shion.....

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>>14314023

>> No.14314742

>>14314690
20k-23k

>> No.14314831

I know Sana has shit numbers but i find kinda funny almost every comparision for the EN side in the numbers tread are agains her.
You can use other council members is not like they have much better numbers.

>> No.14314844

>>14314009
I don't think the holox collab is going to end within an hour.

>> No.14314878

>>14314742
He just recivered that after starting react content again. But it is slow day. >>14314550
For example nyan here is 8k which is lower than her usual 10k with the big brain game. Gaming content just seems to be on a recline lately.

>> No.14314881

>>14314646
Number thread is usually slow around these hours since nothing's happening. Only way it becomes active at this time is with trolls arguing.

>> No.14314886

EN branch should never rely on nepotism ever again. Leave that to ID and JP

>> No.14314923

>>14314878
Maybe people are playing games. Halo Infinite campaign has just launched

>> No.14314993

>>14314831
Other coucil members have higher ceilings and floors. Kronii poke yesterda had 11k for example.
Pokemon spam will just show the floor but is expected since permissions wont last and sana is just making the most out of it forbher own enjoyment

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>>14314881
>since nothing's happening
damn even HoloEN stream is considered nothing these days

>> No.14315028

>>14314831
Their numbers are markedly better than Sana's. People in this thread are shitting on her because she has made herself the outlier in how bad she is when even Kiara wasn't THIS bad.

>> No.14315032

>>14314831
Mumei has double her numbers right now and Fauna has more despite just reading superchat. But anons shouldn't expect much from Sana considering already being the lowest in Council+taking that long ass break due to dog.

>> No.14315044

>>14314878
Slow day for everyone, Lazulight are all streaming to 900 each right now.

>> No.14315057

>>14314023
Just 2 paypigs in Mori's pre-chat were enought to put her in the top 10

>> No.14315079

>>14315021
>these days
You haven't been here long enough.

>> No.14315099

>>14314993
Pokemon isn't necessarily even a debuff, Ina got pretty good numbers for it, better than things that qualify as debuffs for her like Wonderful 101 was.

>> No.14315109

>>14314023
Nene has made the chart every day since she came back, this will be a good month for her

>> No.14315130

>>14314923
I thought people were hating on the new Halo

>> No.14315163

>>14315130
Doesn't mean people won't play it.

>> No.14315175

>>14314719
Is lilyel the coyote? Or orca?
>have short term memory desu foget who's who

>> No.14315183

>>14314993
>>14315028
>>14315032
I know but is funny she is the Punching bag of the EN side.

>> No.14315197

>>14315044
>slow day for everyone
Is this another YT algorithm change? It feels so much different compared to yesterday

>> No.14315258

>>14315130
Who? Reddit? Twitter? The game has tons of good reviews, people will play it. Normies don't care about the opinion of reddit/twitter

>> No.14315265

>>14315197
It's always been like this newfagchama. JST primetime is where the big numbers at

>> No.14315326

>>14315197
eop market is dying

>> No.14315341

>>14315175
Coyote; orca in her past life made $89k total which is insane for an indie of that size

>> No.14315382

>>14314023
Wtf? Why is Mori there too? She didn't stream LMAO, did her outfit frame already got some SC?

>> No.14315386

>>14315326
Nobody cares about Omicron variant as much as whatever variant we had before

>> No.14315397

>>14315130
No? The multiplayer beta had like 2M online and is free. People will play it and because is a new Halo with the Chief as the MC.

>> No.14315465

>>14315130
Other AAA FPS releases seem to have shat the bed even worse this time.

>> No.14315492

Wrap it up Council is done. Bring on ID3 and EN3, if the next gens end up worse, close down the foreign branches.

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*YESTERDAY'S TALLY*

>88,926: Shion (Hololive)
>63,037: Laplus (Hololive)
>62,642: Subaru (Hololive)
>43,995: Chloe (Hololive)
>33,850: Koyori (Hololive)
>33,370: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,262: Lui (Hololive)
>25,383: Iroha (Hololive)
>21,199: Flare (Hololive)
>20,817: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,055: Mumei (Hololive)
>17,467: Chloe (Hololive)
>17,049: Lamy (Hololive)
>15,854: Laplus (Hololive)
>15,652: Lize (Nijisanji)
>14,884: Mio (Hololive)
>14,431: Botan (Hololive)
>13,697: Lui (Hololive)
>13,598: Watame (Hololive)
>12,697: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,798: Mito (Nijisanji)
>11,706: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,185: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,676: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,559: Kiara (Hololive)
>10,432: Lui (Hololive)

>> No.14315533

>>14315183
I understand what you're saying, but she actually deserves the shit she gets for joining a group that basically helps you guarantee that you will have a chance at an audience and wasting the spot that someone else would have made the most out for for... reasons. You might as well have stayed an indie at that point and let someone else try their shot at stardom.

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>>14315382
See >>14315057 this guy plus another who dropped a blank $500

>> No.14315553

>>14315492
Faggot. I'm glad you're not managing jack shit

>> No.14315590

>>14315553
Stay mad councilkeks

>> No.14315636

>>14315590
I don't even watch EN, but axing a branch for sub 10k is retarded when they're still massively profitable

>> No.14315694

10k stream doko?

>> No.14315695

>>14315533
Yeah you are right she deserves it.

>> No.14315698

>>14315636
It's council-schizo what can you expect

>> No.14315773
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At this moment Gura and DrDisRespect have the same amount of subscribers
...
Don't take this seriously

>> No.14315785

>>14315044
it is so wierd
finana yakuza0 always peak around1.3k and 1.5k
>>14315099
ina played fairly early. And sanaka already had penty of poke streames hitting 5k peak. But post game is dead and normal runs arent that interesting.

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After getting slowed down for some time after reaching Kanata, Nimu finally passed her. Watame's next. Parra is also in close pursuit with 1.1 million.

>> No.14315868

>>14315492
>>14315590
NijiEN will be axed first before Council then.

>> No.14315975

>>14315516
>>14315492
Wrap it up NijiJP is done. Bring on a new gen, if they end up worse, close down Nijisanji for good.

>> No.14316042

>>14315868
I wonder if they've even broke even for the original songs and ad costs.

>> No.14316049

>>14315516
Yo, your king ain't looking too good now your using en holo vs jp holo or jp holo vs jp holo hahahaha!

>> No.14316056

>>14315848
Her streams reclined so not sure she cant keep her growth rate even with all the clickbait she does

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HoloEN getting bodied by Haruka and Saruei

>> No.14316173

>>14315516
jesas

>> No.14316223

>>14316165
Mumei at 5,9k.

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What is happening? Why are the numbers this low?
No wonder the thread is stale.

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is there any vtubers that have better views number than Pmaru?

>> No.14316259

Why does Hololive have foreign branches again? It can't be for the superchat, JPs do a better job at that. It can't be for the merch, their merch don't sell. It can't be to bring in the female audience, that's what Holostars are for. It can't be to bring in foreigners, the JP branch does that just fine.

>> No.14316274

>>14316238
>wactor
are spics inclining?

>> No.14316294

>>14315516
where's Kuzuha? didn't he stream yesterday?

>> No.14316309

>>14316238
everyone sleeping so they can get up for mori's new outfit

>> No.14316313

Don't bite.

>> No.14316317

>>14315516
Debut buffs. This is not sustainable and Holo tourists are already getting bored.

>> No.14316341

>>14316294
he's in top 10 anonchama

>> No.14316350

>>14316294(me)
shit, I legit couldn't find him at first because there are so many hololive

>> No.14316359

>>14316294
Try reading it again.

>> No.14316363

Laplus asked people to leave replies so she can talk with us, and has done over 100 replies so far. (I stopped counting there) https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1468745827305005057

>> No.14316383

>>14316259
>I know the shares they give in the company kek
>t. schizo

>> No.14316415

>>14316309
I'm gonna grudgepost this if her outfit reveal didn't hit atleast 100k

>> No.14316515

>>14314023
> 52k in 5k donations
> 10k in 517 donations
> 4.7k in 157 donations
> 1.9k in 39 donations
hmmmmmmmmmmm

>> No.14316532

>>14316259
To kill any potential Nijisanji foreign grow

>> No.14316602

why doesn't niji have a salary?

>> No.14316704

>>14316602
Because they have people like Kataribe?

>> No.14316767

>spam 10 debuts in the span of a few months
>spam collabs with everyone
>try new content and not have everyone on a leash
>play interesting games and let the cream rise
>don't box push too hard
NijiEN is HoloJP circa 2018. HoloEN are the NijiJP of the west.

>> No.14316845

Funny how ENs doesn't do funneling that often when part of the reason why HoloJP is thriving is because there's continuous streams from 6pm jst to midnight. One of the other factor is that there's always one or two person streaming daily to keep viewers retention in check. Dr disrespect and Valkyrae had always shouted that the community on YT hasn't been grown fully yet because even after they stream, their viewers doesn't seem to have another place to go and chill. ENs not getting the Memo and take breaks constantly while also being lazy in their game choices would be the death of their fanbase. How hard is it to tell them to stream with a clear schedule set to funnel viewers in mind?

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>>14310628

>> No.14316902

>>14316845
Because their managers told them to take it easy. They are retarded and don't understand how the streaming industry works.

>> No.14316938

>>14316902
i thought they had some exp

>> No.14316962

>>14316767
In what HoloEN is similar to NijiJP?

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Holobronies, you're losing to twitch vtubers. It's not about numbers anymore. You just want to dicksuck Cover and hololive no matter what.

>> No.14317033

https://www.pcgamer.com/one-of-the-most-popular-vtubers-is-now-trying-to-sell-you-nfts/

How big is a pcgamer article?

>> No.14317070

>>14316902
With Myth's initial success it is no wonder they all became pre-madonnas. Council's downfall might be a blessing in the skies, it could sober EN management. HoloEN will be taken down from it's on a petal stool if they don't do something.

>> No.14317094

>>14316515
It seems most sc purple brat got are not red aka supa

>> No.14317145

>>14317070
>pre-madonna
The term is prima donna you absolute fuckng sack of shit ESL

>> No.14317191

>>14317145
kek

>> No.14317209

>>14316845
>being lazy in their game choices
i mean what do you want them to stream?
there isnt a lot to pic outside minecraft for buff games.
Also they have different projects and sleep schedules
Sana is streaming right now since 10 am. Bae just wake up. Kronii already set for her current time slot. Ame also has set up again for this timeslot etc. wihtout mention real life shit.
>>14316902
otherwise you end like lamy,nene,korone or coco living on sleeping pills situation. People thinking Holox can keep the current peace are for a rude awakening.

People seem to want En to push themselves to some unhealthy levels.

>> No.14317211
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>>14317070
>pre-madonnas

>> No.14317225

So what are the odds the Chloe reaches 600k subs or her first monetization stream

>> No.14317241

>>14317145
they are pretty early today huh, Kek...

>> No.14317245

>>14316056
What about Parra?

>> No.14317321

>>14317225
Dont see it happening...she still lack 11k subs and her sc stream is in 2 days

>> No.14317322

>>14316317
sad cope

>> No.14317426

>>14317145
>>14317211

>blessing in the skies
>petal stool

anons...

>> No.14317485

The people who really believe yumeno leaks should go and get checked. It's the same bullshit narushit was making up about sony taking reign and over 30 members graduating but you will still believe anything since you want to believe that anycolor is black so much.
Well the smart people have already learned to not believe his lies after the meiroshit incident.

>> No.14317507

>>14317070
Everyone making fun of the pre Madonna but not mentioning the fucking PETAL STOOL.

>> No.14317524

>>14317070
Not this shit again anon. Stop it.

>> No.14317559

>>14317485
So what’s the real reason then?

>> No.14317562

that was clearly bait...
are we that bored?

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>>14317321
she gained 11k subs today and her 7 day stat puts her at 23k per day. Her monetization stream is in 36 hours and she collab with Lui probably doing pokemon versus. She can hit it, maybe even on her SC opening

>> No.14317602

Holo needs another Euro to play with Kiara

>> No.14317605

>>14317485
Anon this place is anti nijisanji. Nijisanji can btfo hololive everyday and this place will shit on them.

>> No.14317606

>>14317485
I mean...
>Narukami
The name alone should be "DO NOT TRUST, VERIFY FIRST" for anyone who pays any sort of attention to vtubers, regardless if it's reporting on hololive or nijisanji.

>> No.14317609

>>14317485
personally I don't believe neither and the only true is that 50+ people ended up fired

>> No.14317624

>>14317070
Good job oldfag, now go back

>> No.14317639

>>14316962
Unpopular overseas

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>>14316244
No.

>> No.14317671

>>14317605
>Niji gets bad numbers
>Enters numbers thread
>S-stop being Niji antis!!!
Are you a masochist?

>> No.14317673

>>14317639
>Source: My ass

>> No.14317745

>>14317485
What are the yumeno leaks?

>> No.14317811

What holoEN lacks are narratives, pairings, unique streams and on stream competitions. That always excites viewers to watch it live and also generates huge amount of clips. Pairings or groups like PEBOT, micomet, shiraken, streams like what marine and co did last night, and competitions like what marine and korone used to do. Heck even starting pokemon at the same time like botan and lamy buff the numbers.
Takamori unironically works to bring viewers to watch streams and also amesame and bonebros streams notably always get good views. They just suddenly stop doing it for some reason.

>> No.14317813

>>14317033
Not big. Any gaming/nerd new site isn't big.

>> No.14317850

>>14317811
Not enough tete moments.

>> No.14317874

>>14317605
Lol it only looks like that because Nijisanji is always losing to Hololive.
This is the Numbers Thread so people here will love the ones who produce bigger and consistent numbers.

Cope, Seethe, Dilate faggot

>> No.14317891

>>14317605
>Nijisanji can btfo hololive everyday
You should use more realistic hypotheticals.

>> No.14317908

>>14317485
Also that faggot was seething hard about how popular holox became so you should check it out for a good laugh (if you can understand some japanese)
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm39683940
Maybe that will remind you what a shitstain he is.

>> No.14317936

>>14317745
They got fired for being prostitutes. We know it's bullshit because most of the Niji girls do escorting on the side to make up for their poor numbers.

>> No.14317966

>>14317811
They have it. they want to do another B4B collab for exmaple same people, bae irys exist, ame same, korni fauna,mumei gura horror games collab,etc
but the schedules dont align. ina for example say that they want another B4B collab but none of their schedules align yet. Jp has it easier becasue they all stream on the same time frame.

>> No.14318007

>>14317811
omega pls. stop posting on # and go back to twitter

>> No.14318063

>>14317966
maybe they should stop hiring people from around the whole world

>> No.14318156

>>14317811
I try to make narratives on them all the time to no avail.

>> No.14318190

>>14317908
>posting virtual buddha the cover shill
opinion discarded, naruchadmi has way more credibility than that shitstain will ever have

>> No.14318277

Hmmm is this /#/ thread? Did I enter the wrong thread? Is this /vtsistergossip/ ? Aside from calli outfit reveal, any chance EN charting on today's rank?

>> No.14318328

>>14318277
not really most is doing debuff content.

>> No.14318368

>>14318190
I'm not giving your favourite vtwitcaster a view

>> No.14318383

>>14318277
No.
IRyS is probably going to get 5-6k, and Kronii 6-8k. Bae is waaaaay late to the Pokemon train, 2nd part and no gimmick so its not getting any big views either.

>> No.14318445

>>14317966
well that's what nijiEN got right i guess. Majority of them are all in Canada.

>> No.14318489

>>14318007
He's busy playing FFXIV with YAGOO please understand.

>> No.14318564

>>14317209
>otherwise you end like lamy,nene,korone or coco living on sleeping pills situation.
Pekora, Miko, Subaru and others contradict your retarded claim, so stop using holos who are going through serious health problems to defend a bunch of lazy bitches.

>> No.14318567

>>14318383
Also she is doing it on Jp time

>> No.14318592

>>14317811
It was nice to see the JP girls have that competition last night. For a while it felt like JP was stagnating without a large cross-gen variety show - it was ages since they'd done something like the chinese whispers stream.
Meanwhile, what does EN have?.... TTRPG .....?

>> No.14318666

>>14318564
NTA but you're both retarded to compare holos that shares their whole life in public and who lives in secret and isolate their stories to themselves

>> No.14318679

>>14317811
Well i hope the ametaverse thing can bring new life to HoloEN Collabs.

>> No.14318871

>>14318564
>>14318666
pekora lives with her parents and doesn't eve ego search anymore is far from healthy. Miko and suba being more strong mentally doesn't make streaming less mentally exhausting. you can get burned out easily and holox will recline in their current activities just for their health. Even the orca manager agrees that health comes first

>> No.14318874

>>14317485
I am more inclined to not discard it because it isn't that salacious, it is just Anycolor panicking and kinda making a dumb, face saving move. It isn't black company shit unless they start withholding pay for speaking out or suing people. Anycolor's lawyers are up his fucking ass even before this, if this was just a fib then he'd be getting fucked every which way.

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too much mogging... is there a vtuber company that can compete with them?

>> No.14318955

>>14318889
Where is this from?

>> No.14319062

>>14317811
TTRPGs are a step in the right direction, but their differing timezones and multiple episodes ruins it. They need several different interesting stream ideas with different groups of holos that can be done in one stream, and do it every week at the start in my opinion. And don't forget to properly advertise it on twitter and don't make a confusing thumbnail and title on the video cuz JOPs won't understand the context (Ame and Gura are the worst example of this).

>> No.14319081

>>14318955
/vt/

>> No.14319142

>>14318871
Honestly, Council should have HoloX schedule for their debut month to build their fanbase. They can then transition to a normal schedule afterward

>> No.14319293

>>14319062
NTA, but they also need to create some kind of tournament or friendly competition. For example, beating someone's highest score for that brain game or beating Gura's record in Ringfit(sadly no one responded to this). Another thing that they can do is actually more viewer participation streams, that shit is always interesting.

>> No.14319384

>>14318889
I don't know man, I should probably be worried they are beating Sana's 2-3k ccv

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>>14319293
Seems like Mori is planning something like that but with HoloJP

>> No.14319562

>>14319142
Myth were the worst senpais.
>just bee urself and don't take it too seriously
There are thousands of vtubers out there clawing and grabbing, hustling and working, to even get a small chunk of the pie. Council was just handed the short road to it with a little bit on already their plate. They screwed the pooch, they had every chance to turn this into "Hololive West" instead of "Group of vtubers with the Hololive name." Council not only has to contest with other vtubers, they have to contend with sports, video games, anime, and Netflix. It's insane they would ever take it easy without anything secured, their senpais had to hustle hard for their spots and most of them were NEETs and NND castoffs.

>> No.14319573

>>14310628
>An artist that doesn't want to draw
>VA that doesn't want to talk
>ASMR vtuber that isn't GFE
>Aussies with no bantz
>Vtuber that has school obligations
HoloEN scouting is trash

>> No.14319624

>>14319293
That's also one of gura's shortcomings. She got a lot of good ideas but never realized them or communicated it poorly.

>> No.14319654

>>14319142
Holox has whole month of that
the question is if that set an expectation that would not be fulfilled later and lose fans over it.
You have 2 valorant players and 2 FFXIV players,didnt even let iroha play it. like what are chances for the people coming with their current content will stay when they do those? it could happen but is unlikely. And the inverse could happen also, that they love those games but becasue they dont bring fans they go stream other things that are not as fun for them just increasing stress or streaming them just takes the fun out of it, like with aquas apex.
HoloEn is going for a more relax approach to avoid burnouts, i think they saw what happened with Ame and other talent and want to avoid that. Numbers can comeback with the correct content but mental health is different. this is pretty much marchapril again for holo EN.
>>14319293
i agree with this but it also comes into schedule issues for both sleeping and timezone. Except the last one they should do more participation streams.

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>laplus is a teenage menhera
>got lots of SC but very few akas
>says she doesnt want gachis (clearly lying - whether to herself or to her fans is the only question)
im going to donate a big fat aka in the dumbest eigo possible to stick out as her top EOP fan and start grooming her westaboo cunny for my BWC

>> No.14319725

>>14319573
Mumei is actually great, I hope she finish her education soon.

>> No.14319749

>>14319293
The thing is, some members are toxic or tryhard or downright down give a fuck about anything. What they need is a hag leader, like Mio, to keep those lazy fucks in one place.
The chest tournament is such a simple idea and yet no one except Ollie are in. Mori has hard time making a simple Jump King race.

>> No.14319772

>>14319573
>just get people that get along with myth, the rest will work itself out
>oh no, the entire branch is demoralized over 3D except Council who doesn't care to begin with!
You have to establish the family before you try to make it into one. HoloEN's brainwashing just isn't good.

>> No.14319776

>>14319562
Yeah, they obviously start with the wrong mindset.

>> No.14319830

>>14319772
>brainwashing
Is this how you cope with having bad relationships with your family?

>> No.14319839

>>14319573
>VA that doesn't want to talk
Actually, Kronii's chatting skills have improved a lot

>> No.14319858

>>14319655
Have you seen her latest tweets? She's farming gachis now.

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>>14318889
Will Gura beat her own numbers this time?

>> No.14319938

>>14319749
>chess tournament
I think they don't want that Ame-Kiara repeat. They should try something simpler like Mario Kart or Smash tournament

>> No.14319978

>>14319749
I truest don’t understand why it’s so hard for them to coordinate. They play video games or chat a few hours a day. It’s not that complicated.

>> No.14319981

>>14313574
That pic scared me for a sec. I thought I missed the outfit reveal.

>> No.14320021

>>14319938
Ame Kiara was unironically great content. Ollie got decent numbers just reviewing it

>> No.14320029

Just play 51 Clubhouse Games. It's not that hard to find a buff game for a collab.

>> No.14320032

>>14319562
>taking it easy
Yes, this is the worst advice you could give. A better advice would be "Don't take anything for granted, you still need to work hard but always prioritize your health"

>> No.14320126

>>14317745
This >>14319260

>> No.14320168

>>14319938
They already done Mario Kart competition and Smash tournament are gonna be unplayable. I'd rather someone do a viewer participation smash stream.

>> No.14320205

>4k waiting for Rosemi
If the rrats are true, I would not be surprised if she is milking this moment as much as she can

>> No.14320241

>>14317605
>Nijisanji can btfo hololive everyday
I've been waiting for that to happen for half a fucking month already
Come back when it actually happen
Or do I have to remind you about all the premature ejaculations when Maimoto almost won against fucking Gen 3?

>> No.14320253

>>14317033
Not mainstream if that is what you're implying, but in geek circles it's pretty big. To all the people who were looking in on the sidelines but not actually invested in his hobby, Kizuna Ai's trajectory would look something like this:
Got big through anime girl saying faq u - got replaced - ended up as a NFT salesman.

>> No.14320259

Any holo en member reach 10k tonight?

>> No.14320278

>>14319562
You losers get really salty when vtubers don't stream 24 hours a day 7 days a week don't you?

>> No.14320292

>>14319654
>mental health is different.
>implying they were mentally healthy before or even capable of it
Anon, they’re already being memed as a generation of leeches who got where they are by the hard work of their senpais and now kouhais with holox. And thats not a claim without numbers to back it up. I think thats more mentally damaging than chasing after numbers for a month or two

>> No.14320306

>>14320205
Can she get the 10K?

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>>14319893
Just take a look at her CCV before the last outfit reveal. It was not great but she got 194k

>> No.14320390

>>14320205
what's happening?

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>>14319573
It's kinda crazy tho, how they scout myth into this mess, it's like they change their scouting team into omega and ina

>> No.14320427

>>14320292
>Anon, they’re already being memed as a generation of leeches who got where they are by the hard work of their senpais
we doing that doesnt matter much outside
>>14320205
probably first time niji will beat holoen, even if its a full EN collab

>> No.14320434

>>14320205
Waiting for what?

>> No.14320446

>>14320205
What exactly is this? Surely it's not just Rosemi doing standup for an hour?

>> No.14320491

>>14320367
Look at the monthy data. Basically all of Hololive was down that month because they were spamming Monster Hunter and nobody wants to watch that shit.

>> No.14320522

>>14319858
>Lui farms gachis
>La+ farms gachis
>Chloe never made it a secret what she wants
At least Koyori won't stoop that low.

>> No.14320547

>>14319772
Anon, even the JP said they aren't close with all of the holos, they just get along well and that's it. If there is ground for a deeper bond they will work it out, if not then they move on...or be Matsuri.

>> No.14320554

>>14320491
just like pokemon

>> No.14320561

>>14320278
Fuck no, that's overkill, but I'm of the same mind. At the very least, for the first few weeks you definitely want to be doing the most to maximize viewer retention and capturing attention when you're given a huge tourist audience to work with. Taking it easy during that period is the absolute WORST time to do so. Go hard early, then dial it back to a more sustainable pace once you've established your audience. No one should expect the any Holomem to output the hours twitch streamers do, that's horridly unhealthy in the long run.

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>>14320522
>shut up dog! And start farming your gachis!!

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>ChuyMineVt got scrubbed from the userlocal.jp rankings
I know it was you, janny whale. You were starting to slow down, and was afraid you were never gonna pass him.

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beatable numbers.

>> No.14320720

>>14319830
Take a look at this place and make a wild guess anon

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HoloEN is really dying.

>> No.14320813

>>14320396
>Hololive uses FBK, Mel, and AZKi to recruit Gamers, HoloX, and IRyS
>GOOD!!!
>Ina and Omega pick Council
>BAD!!!
Make up your mind about nepotism.

>> No.14320821

>>14320687
>Rosemi's waiting room on her way to beat Mumei since already beated the rest
It will be really ironic if her PC is really dying and blows away her chance to top HoloEN rumao.

>> No.14320837

>>14318871
>pekora lives with her parents and doesn't eve ego search anymore is far from healthy.
To be fair, compared to the hate she got in her previous life, the hate she has now is nothing.

>> No.14320856

>>14320687
Its over holobros.. NijiEN rosemi gonna mog council...

>> No.14320878

>Kiara 3.6k
>Ina 9.9k
>Fauna 4.9k
>Ame 4.6k
>Sana 2.8k
>Mumei 6.2k
>IRyS 5.3k

the absolute state of HoloEN lmao looks like Mori is carrying this today

>> No.14320885

>>14320821
They are inclining every month. She can just buy a new PC and get 10k next time.

>> No.14320892

>>14320821
wosemi-sama...

>> No.14320897

>>14320278
>Streaming 5 or 6 days a week
>At least 1 hour on most days
Is that unreasonable?

>> No.14320898

>>14320856
let's gooooo

>> No.14320904

>>14320813
And that produce consistent numbers while council.... stop defending and just fucked your own narrative kek

>> No.14320917

>>14320878
Really? The person with an outfit reveal winning the day in her branch? Surely not.

>> No.14320921

>>14320897
Idk anon, ask Ayame

>> No.14320924

And of course. Luck is on NijiEN's side today with every single HoloEN getting bad numbers right now.
Can't wait for 50 different bait threads of the same shit in the catalogue.

>> No.14320950

>>14320837
NND subhumans really are the worse.

>> No.14320965

>>14320924
Today's gold is already decided for HoloEN.

>> No.14320972

Cam on irys get thank 6k...
Her floor increased from 4k to 6k in the span of a month im proud...

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>>14320813
And how does the recruit turns out anon? Which one bring more number?
One IRyS actually mog 5 council
So Mel >>>> Inanis + Omega

>> No.14321011

>>14320748
She better starts before ame,mumei and sana finishes

>>14320897
so what daily zatsu? that shit doesnt fly on the long run. you need something meaty to stream

>> No.14321014

>HoloEN reclining
>HoloJP inclining since October
wtf happened holobros?

>> No.14321033

Nitpicking thread or a bunch of nijikeks hungry for some winnings? LMAO

>> No.14321050

>>14320813
The JP nepotism picks do STREAMS and actually work hard...sans Ayame.
Meanwhile, most of council slacked off sans Moomers since she is studying...yet streams more than Kronii and sometimes even Sana.
Fauna and Baelz seemed to be the ones to actually take it seriously but they started to slack off lateky as well.

>> No.14321105

>>14320924
HoloEN earned it. I happily shat on NijiEN but when the numbers are shifting so do I. Of course NijiEN will never approach todays HoloEN peak but it really is nice if some people ate some humble pie for once.

>> No.14321118

Instead of midget posting, predict the silver and bronze medalists instead.

>> No.14321245

>>14321118
>sliver
Iroha's monetization steam
>bronze
Chloe and Lui seem to doing pokemon at the same time

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>>14320813
>>14314886
>>14321050
ITS. NOT. NEPOTISM. IT. IS. FUCKING. CRONYISM. YOU. FUCKING. RETARDED. MONGOLOIDS.
NEPOTISM IS GIVING JOBS TO FAMILY, CRONYISM IS GIVING JOBS TO FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY DO YOU FAGGOTS NEVER BOTHER TO LEARN THE MEANING OF WRODS BEFORE YOU SPEAK THEM???!!

>> No.14321346

Full niji EN collab litearlly the 10 perosns streaming

10k?9k?or 8k?

>> No.14321422

>>14321346
No fucking way they dont get 10k
against ame donkey kong and sana/mumei literally just mining in pokemon.

>> No.14321425

>>14321333
It's numbers thread anon, some people here don't even know what median means.

>> No.14321429

So, one thing when people talk about HoloEN is how fucked they are in term of scheduling (10 people with like 4 time zone, with the worse one being Kiara)

Do you think it would be better if the girls can relocate to live near each other, and if so, which time zone would you want them to settle on?

>> No.14321432

>>14320813
None of it are nepotism retard.

>> No.14321453

>>14321333
>NEPOTISM IS GIVING JOBS TO FAMILY
Hololive is family
Also kys takos

>> No.14321478

>>14321333
Nepotism:
the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs.
I dunno anon, dictionary definition rolls friends into Nepotism too. Cronyism is more specific, so don't be too surprised if people just opt to use Nepotism instead.

>> No.14321488

>>14321429
>Do you think it would be better if the girls can relocate to live near each other
YES but that will neveer happen, this is real life

>> No.14321526

>>14321422
Said that about MarioKart, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say they've inclined enough to possibly do so.

>> No.14321530

>>14316259
Prevent competitor's foreign branches from growing. Which they're doing successfully.

>> No.14321589

I'm fine so long as Gura, Ina, Irys and Mori is still getting high SCs or viewership as compared to Council. Who would've thunk they are streaming Pokemon weeks after everyone got sick of it? None had the mental capability to just stream it as soon as it came out like Pekora does or make a decent challenge out of it.

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>>14320612
Just passed Hima.

>> No.14321602

>>14321429
UTC -5

>> No.14321631

>>14316259
You are incredibly stupid

>> No.14321632

>>14321488
They are fucking adults anon
They can live near each other and return to visit family etc every couple months
The only reason for them not able to travel atm is the coof restriction, and I refuse to believe that shit will stay on forever

>> No.14321667

>>14321014
EN is very boring to watch

>> No.14321689

>>14321488
why not? it works with big streamers. otv, xqc/soda/nmp, mizkif

>> No.14321728

>>14321429
No, it would be ridiculous to ask them to immigrate to another country, a years long process, to stream at different. They work from home, they can stream whenever they want. I worked 3rd shift for years, it's not that hard if you don't have a kids. Bad for your social life but realistically most of these girls don't have one anyway.

>> No.14321744

>>14321429
They need the holohouse 3.0 to create chemistry between each other and more so, schedule according to the timezone. But for that they need to move everyone to Australia o Japan and even then, Ina will never leave her house nor Gura or Sana.

>> No.14321745

"Nepotism" is fine when you're bringing something to the table.
Sana has yet to contribute to the Hololive name in any way shape or form, she's just using the buff to her own benefit without doing anything really.
>inb4 Robocco Aki
They're very early hires and didn't join just to utilize the brand name for themselves.

>> No.14321758

>>14321632
>>14321689
becasue they leave across 4 countries 2 of those across the sea and mean total change of lifestyle and othe rproblems like palce since all of them have pets

>> No.14321914

>>14320278
Youtube only saves up to 12 hour VODs so thats not really an optimal number strategy. you also have to take into account a certain degree of scarcity to emphasize that these streams are special but not so scarce that your name drops off the face of the earth.

>> No.14321925

>>14321429
Honestly they should have just hired a bunch of vtubers concentrated in the Americas. Maybe focus on mostly Canadians, with a sprinkling of burgers and maybe a South American or two.

>> No.14321955

...quality aside, congrats Rosemi on beating most of HoloEN...kind of...with a premiere...I guess

>> No.14322008
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2 down, 2 more to go

>> No.14322022

>>14321744
why australia and japan? They'll compete with JP timeslot, stupid. All they need to do is rent a house in one place and stream from there. I have a couple of friends of mine with me at a rented apartment just so we could take the bus to our university. That kind of thing exists. If it's in Canada, have the house somewhere close to Ina's place and when the holiday sets in, she could take care of the house while the others would leave for a vacation.

>> No.14322036

>>14321728
A lot of multinational companies ask people to move to work for them. It's hardly ridiculous considering the money being earned.

>> No.14322047

>>14321632
>and I refuse to believe that shit will stay on forever
anon, the coof restrictions have been in place for almost 2 years now, what makes you think it'll go away anytime soon?

>> No.14322077

>>14322008
So it takes an entire branch collab to barely beat Amelia playing a debuff game for the 5th time. Lol that is really sad.

>> No.14322099

>>14321955
I want someone to punch HoloEN in the gut and make it hurt. The scales need to fall from their eyes, they are in a dynamic situation treating it like it's static.

>> No.14322124

>>14322008
Amelia actually getting beaten by Wosemi. EN bros is this the end?

>> No.14322166

>>14322077
The fact that they are louder than the Vshojofags is a telling sign about their napoleon complex.

>> No.14322173

>>14321925
>2 Aussies
>2 leafs
>4 mutss
>1 weaboo on nihongo land
>1 yuro
Takamori collabs while kiara was in Japan are the closest thing for what you are asking, the rest are either too autistic or don't care.

>> No.14322228

>>14322036
They're streamers, they don't need to. The only place that would even make sense to move to would be Japan so they could do 3D stuff regularly, and Japan is not exactly easy to move to or acclimate to living in.

>> No.14322242

>>14322008
Still can't beat HoloEN with a full collab Kek

>> No.14322257

>>14321758
they need to settle on one state e.g. California or Texas, get a holohouse, start up a 3d office for their NA folks. Aussie folks can fly to Japan for 3D shit.

>> No.14322272

>>14322166
Just call it small dog syndrome. Napoleon was actually successful and we certainly can't say that about NijiEN, lol.

>> No.14322338

EN scouts need to take region and time schedule into account, it happened with myth too with how hard it is to have a full collab. They need to choose chuubas that will stream on us prime time without sacrificing their own life.

>> No.14322378

>>14321955
Rosemi hasn't even climbed back to what her prechat was. Not sure if it's because this is too weird and some people left or it's just taking a long time to process the viewers.

>> No.14322444

>>14322166
Vshojo and several twitch indies mog holoEN. We need to bring piyo back so holobronies can get a reality check.

>> No.14322452

>>14322228
But if they move to Japan, that means their best streaming time will be JP Primetime? Isn't that ... Kinda weird, since they will now to compete with JP?

>> No.14322512

>>14322378
NijiEN fans over hyping another failed stream? Nah, they would never do that, lol.

>> No.14322525

>>14322338
Ok omega

>> No.14322587

>>14322338
Anon, the EN talent pool is already small asf, and full of yab-ticking timebomb
Unless they want to scrap the bottom of the barrel and goes to the ESL ...

>> No.14322601

>>14322378
They all left to watch IRyS be a cute adorable retard with the brain game.

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>>14322444
>We need to bring piyo

>> No.14322620

>>14322338
More like they should hire someone with both talents and per-existing conditions, so that she'll spend all her time to make the best out of her time in Hololive, and the manager can't do much to restrict her since she's on a timer.

>> No.14322674

>>14322378
I recall one of the new start up's new gen's debutant getting 750 in her waiting room, starting the stream on time, and never getting more than 665 CCV.

>> No.14322702

>>14322452
They still be able to get the burger primetime, they just need to get up and start streaming around 10AM JST

>> No.14322790

>>14322674
she hasnt break 5k
then again it could be that the content was...not to their liking.
It is not Ame on the AM that is for sure

>> No.14322856

Gura has a 5k waiting room and hits 20k. The traitor has a 5k waiting room and hits.......4k, lol.

>> No.14322855

>>14322378
If you want a serious answer, waiting room is pre-cull numbers and then Susan culls your views when the stream starts.

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EN numbers

>> No.14322864

>>14322166
>>14322272
I honestly don't understand the nijifags obsession with this place, Nyanners hits 10k and there's like 2 posts mentioning it, a NijiEN hits 4k and suddenly nijiniggers are all up in this place trying to sell it like it's the second coming of christ.

>> No.14322941

>>14322790
HoloEN is just built different.

>> No.14322952

>>14322858
>EN
>pol and tower

>> No.14322970

>>14322855
Yes and it always climbs back. If it doesn't, something has gone wrong.

>> No.14322999

>>14322952
I'm too lazy to filter
Do that shit your self anon

>> No.14323010

>>14322858
Samurai slaying them gaijin the picture

>> No.14323014

>>14322952
Towa is more EN than fucking Kronii.

>> No.14323027

>>14322952
Twap is honorary Korean and by extension honorary EN as Koreans love EN, (?)

>> No.14323086

>>14323027
The Twaper's fanbase was and might still be mostly western.

>> No.14323111

>>14322864
There's more Niji EN fans here than Vshoujo. In that big tournament they did a while back all the Vshoujo except Ironmouse got destroyed right away, the Niji ENs mostly hung in until the mid or late rounds and a few beat Holos outright.

>> No.14323114

>>14322864
It's more that holobronies ignore twitch because they don't want to get at numbers that mog them

>> No.14323182

>>14322999
Damn, bro. Next time serve a bowl of maggots and call it spagget.

>> No.14323203

Who woke up the Twitch schizo?

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>>14323111
There's only really the one, and he's the same retard who keeps making retarded claims that get blown out

>> No.14323262

>>14323203
>le schizo xDDDD
Cope: >>14314550

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14323270

nijibros?????

>> No.14323290

>>14320972
i got my 6k sayonara baiting losers

>> No.14323325

>>14323262
>xDDDD
Go back

>> No.14323373

>>14323262
Oh no, it's Sana... no one cares, everyone and their mom knows that Sana is a shitter and a low bar to be beaten. Nyanner's median is definitely higher than Sana too.
Honestly, fire Sana.

>> No.14323516

>>14323373
Nah, just move her to ID branch she can debuff herself together with treerat

>> No.14323523

stop inclining irys you're supposed to be the runt of holoen

>> No.14323563

>>14323261
That is actual destruction. The worst performing HoloEN is still several orders of magnitude stronger than the strongest NijiEN. Can Nijikeks just go away please?

>> No.14323651

>>14323270
Ooof. To get culled below the waiting room and yet to hit it.....

>> No.14323701

>>14323563
No they won't, they'll just come back the next time a nijikek gets a little more than usual so they can jerk themselves off and start demanding that we kneel to their fucking midgets.

>> No.14323748

>>14323114
is this bait or does someone really not check the multiple 10/20k streams that holos have every day?

>> No.14323758

>>14323651
Reminds me of Aki.

>> No.14323843

>>14323748
HoloJP doesn't count as far as some people are concerned. I'm not sure why, vtubers in the west are numbers midgets except Gura on a good day and Mori's music.

>> No.14323849

>>14316767
Now that you mention it, Elira kinda feels like 2018 FBK

>> No.14323861
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Thought you would beat HoloEN? Think again!! Nothing personal Nijikeks.

>> No.14323891

>>14320522
wait, i thought purple brat says she doesnt want any gachis...
I didnt even know lui is into farming gachis...

>> No.14323907

>>14322378
>Rosemi hasn't even climbed back to what her prechat was.
Makes sense, nijiEN is just holoEN's waiting room after all.

>> No.14323942

>>14323891
Don't be dumb, they all want gachis.

>> No.14323964

>>14323086
>mostly western
You mean SEA

>> No.14323991

>>14322338
Fuck that, for the next gen they should poach the best girls from smaller corpos send them to A-chan indoctrination camp and hope for the best, otherwise by next year they gonna be competing head to head with nijien, with the aces of every small corpo not far behind.

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>>14323861
>IRyS was the shield that prevented pages upon pages of schizo posts and bait threads
Thank god for that dorky Nephilim!!

>> No.14324026

>>14323942
Not fauna and balls apparently

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>>14319858

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>>14322444
what should I check exactly?

>> No.14324046

>>14323942
Not Koyori. She's an angel.
>>14323861
NijiEN had no chance to beat HoloEN today to begin with, Mori's outfit is today and it will be north of 100k. I don't know how NijiEN would be able to get 100k.

>> No.14324049

>>14323907
Niji EN rarely lose much even to big Hololive events, usually a few hundred at most. Even though there is a lot of overlap they have their own dedicated set of fans.

As far as the stream not hitting the prechat number, that is extremely rare, for any company, or branch of said companies. I think it's because she delayed so long and a lot of the people who would normally join right after it started joined in prechat instead and got culled.

>> No.14324051

>>14322378
Apologize

>> No.14324078

>>14323861
Even worse, I don't think Rosemi even beat Mumei's live ccv at the time, much less her actual stream peak of 6.2k

>> No.14324107

>>14323891
Get gachis, try to get some but not too many unicorns. Lulu had too many unicorns, Lize is smart and cultivated mostly gachis.

>> No.14324147

>>14324051
For what?

>> No.14324199

>>14324026
Bae sucks but Fauna's too much in the middle to get a decent amount of gachis. Fauna needs to just step up by herself. Speak more in collabs and shit.

>> No.14324209

>>14324107
>try to get some but not too many unicorns.
La+ already promised not to collab with blokes.

>> No.14324255

>>14324049
I've been saying that there are not enough vtuber watchers for proper competition.

>> No.14324270

>>14324147
>For not understanding the context
that anon must be confused and too retarded to understand your point Kek

>> No.14324275

>irys 7k on brain academy despite it being a debuff game for the other girls and the overlaps right now
impressive

>> No.14324291

>>14323942
It all depends on how they farm for it i guess...purple brat literally barks like a dog when singing on stream while people throwing money at here yesterday...

>> No.14324324

>>14324209
Thats fine. Just make sure to get more gachis than unicorns.

>> No.14324363

>>14324291
>barks like a dog
I had the stream on in the background while playing Switch and I heard that and did a double take and immediately turn the stream back on. I was like WTF! It was bizarre, lol.

>> No.14324365

>>14324034
dude sounds like a faggot

>> No.14324386

>>14324291
Sana was barking like a dog on Mumei's stream today, seems normal enough.

>> No.14324400

>>14324275
>BA a debuff
nah, is not a buff but is an ok stream game

>> No.14324547

I'm watching Yamada's bilibili vod, damn girl is desperate

>> No.14324569

>>14323261
Looks like they are on par with each other recently. Selen definitely has a chance of beating Sana's average/median this month.

>> No.14324604

>>14324547
Her hunger probably got her in. HoloJP isn't fucking around or playing nice with Holo6.

>> No.14324644

>>14324386
It was her first monetization and singing stream yesterday, anon...
Well im not complaining since at least it works which more viewers tune in to keep throwing money at her

>> No.14324701

>>14324569
lol no. Sana generally get shit numbers but her occasional good numbers will blow Selen out of the water.
And your definition of "on par" is garbage.

>> No.14324718

>>14324547
First month they SHOULD be going all out so I don't blame her.
They can slow down and find their groove after the initial grind.

>> No.14324735

>>14324547
desperate for what tho?

>> No.14324747

>>14324547
Yamada streamed on bilibili?

>> No.14324757

>>14323843
>HoloJP doesn't count as far as some people are concerned.
Sounds like they're coping then lol.

>> No.14324812

>>14324547
Is she using bilibili?

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>>14324569
this has to be retardation, I swear

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>>14320612
I knew it.

>> No.14324884

>>14324386
>Sana was barking like a dog
B-but her dog.. Won't bark no more

>> No.14324886

>>14324813
3 person collab 2 of which are not Sana. What does this mean?

>> No.14324929

>>14324884
>dog
"dog"

>> No.14324951

>>14324884
Sana never had a dog

>> No.14324992

>>14324813
Did Rosemi get 5.2k peak completely on her own today? Idgaf about collabs.

>> No.14325173

>>14324209
Not that I don't believe you but when did she say this? Any clip of this?

>> No.14325210

>>14324992
No, it was a big collab.

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>>14324929
>>14324951

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>>14322970
>5136 waiting room
>5240 peak

>> No.14325285

>>14325173
I think she says it during one of her twitter space

>> No.14325353

New donation platform for HoloID
https://twitter.com/hololive_id/status/1468792521748713474?s=21

>> No.14325406

>>14300067
>manesan tweeted

>> No.14325435

>>14325282
She delayed the stream for too long

>> No.14325489

>>14325353
They've been doing a bit for the ID branch recently.
They set up a local version of the Hololive official shop for Indonesia and apparently plan to offer exclusive merch. It looks like for this they partnered up with a local company.

>> No.14325517

>>14325353
yeah, makes sense that they would want to move away from streamlabs, they are not exactly on the up and up these days.

>> No.14325534

>>14325435
I didn't follow the waiting room, did the peak 5k waiting not happen right before the stream started? If the waiting room fell down during the delay then the numbers would make much more sense

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>>14325435
it took a whole stream for the views to recover lol

>> No.14325601

>>14324547
Her pl content on bilibili is very wild, very entertaining though.

>> No.14325606

>>14325282
oof, what the fuck happened here?

>> No.14325629

>>14325601
What kind of content?

>> No.14325822

>>14324813
9 hours stream kek

>> No.14325899

>>14325629
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1UX4y1g7ft

Posted yesterday.

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1yo4y1f7U2

For ppl who say she doesn't want gachikoi. Just how poor is she though?

>> No.14325999

Has anyone analyzed this yet? This nip presentation is very interesting imo since it says that income wise anycolor is mainly on niji but not too depended on it https://speakerdeck.com/anycolor/anycolor-introduction?slide=11

>> No.14326174

>>14325999
check the previous thread, there's a long running discussion on it
https://speakerdeck.com/covercorp/cover-corp-introduction
This is Cover's updated deck, btw

>> No.14326197

>>14325899
I thought you guys were talking about Laplus.

>> No.14326284

>>14326197
People are retarded like that, they brought up this woman yesterday and have only called her by Yamada and talked about that one stream.

>> No.14326286

People are way too hard on Council. If you look at their numbers they are about on par with the non-Gura members of Myth and IRyS. Ina is a little bit ahead of them and of course Mori has her music but they really aren't that different. Gura is an impossible standard to match any of them up against.

>> No.14326301

You guys cry and whine about HoloEN all day but you will be kneeling to Mori's 140k tonight.

>>14325899
She's like ** years old, don't take her too seriously. People here take twist cast babbling seriously.

>> No.14326323

>>14323270
oh that's fucked up, how do you not get up to the waiting room number?

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Who's this? He seems to be growing pretty steadily.

>> No.14326366

>>14326301
>She's like ** years old
10? 99?

>> No.14326429

>>14325999
Anycolor has a lot of designers, 17.8%. Few engineers at 7.1% compared to Cover's 25% (makes sense since they're making a game).

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>>14326286
could be holoX of EN instead become jp4 no coco

>> No.14326490

>>14325999
>This nip presentation is very interesting imo since it says that income wise anycolor is mainly on niji but not too depended

Where does it say that? You linked the slide with their employee data.

>> No.14326547

>>14326174
Can anyone translate the page I linked and compare them with this page from Cover? https://speakerdeck.com/covercorp/cover-corp-introduction?slide=28
Are the 2 talking about the same point?

>> No.14326561

>>14326301
>She's like ** years old, don't take her too seriously.
i actually i would worry exactly becasue of that. Young ones are even more menhera

>> No.14326602

>>14326286
Maybe fags is not satisfied enough with the contributions they gave to HoloEN( if they have) since they mostly just coast and ride the wave Myth started

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>Yagoo fell for the metaverse and NFT meme
Oh no no no I can already see Cover going bankrupt in the future. Enjoy while it lasts holobronies.

>> No.14326709

>>14326174
I just noticed, in the past 6 months Cover hired 66 people (total 236). Holy shit.

>> No.14326716

>>14326690
ancient image, go elsewhere

>> No.14326767

>>14326323
viewbots. her actual waiting number was 3.6k which she recovered and gained 1.6k viewers throughout the stream

>> No.14326795

>>14326690
NFT has good reputation in JP tho, there's a reason why KizAI partnered with one with no nip hate at all, this is actually could help them on their main market

>> No.14326844

>>14326690
ame already implemented the Ametaverse and NFATs

>> No.14326851

>>14326716
>>14326795
So are you guys terminally retarded or just pretending?

>> No.14326859

>>14326795
Lies, go shill your Invigaron elsewhere

>> No.14326899

>14326690
Like the last several times you called Cover's projects failures and they'll go bankrupt for it?
Come up with something new at least.

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>>14317646
QRD on this dead subs KR channel, and why is she the most viewed VTuber?

>> No.14326918

>>14326851
shut up your bait was shit, was in the numbers thread like 20 threads ago and no one bit it then either

>> No.14326922

>>14326795
>Kizuna Ai, the irrelevant has been vtuber who has nothing to lose at this point partnered with them
Kek. It's gonna be funny seeing all of hololive going her way.

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>>14326899

>> No.14326992

>>14326918
Then why the fuck did you bite it you dumbass, it literally has OH NO NO NO NO and holobronies in it, come the fuck on

>> No.14327006

>>14326992
>>14326716
?

>> No.14327034

>>14326899
it literally has OH NO NO NO NO and holobronies in it, come the fuck on

>> No.14327047

Why is there nijisisters seething? did someone piss in Niji's number's or something?

>> No.14327064

>>14326709
Cover created a new department called the "Creative Works Department". It used to be under a management department but is now its own thing.
Under the Streaming Department they added two new divisions, the 3D animation and music division.

>> No.14327119

>>14327047
They are especially salty tonight. They had a 5k waiting room and were sure the stream would hit 10k and beat HoloEN for the day. The stream proceeded to hit like 5.2k and barely exceed the waiting room total. It probably hurt their soul a lot.

>> No.14327125

>>14327047
Kek no wonder >>14325282

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*invests all your superchat, membership and merch money into an extremely risky endeavour*

>> No.14327180

>>14325549
The fuck happened to Mumei in the middle?

>> No.14327187

>>14327064
I bet you the hololive shorts and Holoalt were folded into the creative works department

>> No.14327220

>>14327119
>would hit 10k and beat HoloEN for the day.
They'd need 100k to do that though since Mori's outfit reveal is tonight.

>> No.14327227

>>14327180
Susan

>> No.14327234

>>14327180
capture card fucking up

>> No.14327250

>>14325282
How is that even possible? The only scenario I can think of this happening is if the waiting room have bots that got kicked out.

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>>14326174
cover (left), anycolor (right)

>> No.14327294

>>14327251
Cover is truly fucked if their metaverse shit doesn't go right. I'll get to witness another major vtuber company going down in my lifetime.

>> No.14327316

>>14327250
Nijisanji uses viewbots.

>> No.14327322

>>14327251
fuck kanji

>> No.14327325

Nijisister, when will lazulight getting their new outfit? Christmas? New year? Or they need like 500k subs first?

>> No.14327350

>>14327187
I think it shows where Cover is headed. They're focusing a lot more on media production now.
Anycolor seems to be doing the same thing they've always been doing.
>>14327294
Seeing how Yagoo seems to be blessed by the shinto gods or some shit, it'll end up being a huge success.

>> No.14327351

Nijisisters having their own flimsy argument used against them so they resort to more fortune telling in hopes that Cover will go down kek

>> No.14327364

>>14327251
I can't read this

>> No.14327444

>>14324735
>>14324747
>>14324812
Reps, do it newfags

>> No.14327568

>>14327234
Did her stream crash or something?

>> No.14327605

>>14327251
And a ching chong nip nong to you too, young lady.

>> No.14327631

>>14327325
Don't they get a new one for 50k subs and a 3D for 100k subs? I know there is a backlog but it should come soon.

What if Nijisanji upped the goals for NijiEN? Like 500k for a new outfit and 1 million for 3D?

>> No.14327640

>>14327444
since La Plus exists, Yamada isn't specific enough. It's like throwing out the name Lulu

>> No.14327725

>>14327251
Interesting how they separated Japanese vtuber business from overseas. Overseas got lumped in with their VR department.
So they have what, 26 total staff between the two departments? Seems like it would be pretty stretched thin considering how fucking big their overseas branches are.

>> No.14327750

>>14327251
not perfect google shit

>cover corp
44% planning and production (content/products)
25% engineers
15% back office
9% sales and marketing
7% event planner and management

>anycolor
31.5% domestic staff
19.8% studio staff
17.8% designers
13.2% overseas and VR staff
10.7% corporate
7.1% engineers

>> No.14327796

>>14326286
Yea not to give council a pass, but people here aren't hard enough on myth.

>> No.14327818

>>14327750
>10.7% corporate
What does it mean?

>> No.14327848

>>14327750
Huh, interesting. So the biggest expense cover has right now really is in product development and innovation

>> No.14327863

>>14327796
The EN schizo is pretty hard on them lol.

>> No.14327891

>>14327818
Suits and shareholders, probably

>> No.14327910

>>14324275
Its not a debuff though. Ina and gura played it and they did pretty well. 22k for gura and 12k+ for ina.

>> No.14327968

>>14327863
True. I mean moreso people take a shot at council in like every other post meanwhile half the stuff the say applies to myth too.

>> No.14328034

>>14327796
Lets face it all of EN sucks and if it wasn't for song views they'd be considered a failed gen

>> No.14328046

La+ cover hit 2M!
https://youtu.be/yTb_AvLchgY

>> No.14328052
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14328052

Move to >>14327915 when you fags done here

>> No.14328055

IRyS just mentioned tomorrow's stream is sponsored.

>> No.14328077

>>14328034
They still made cover a boatload of money during the pandemic. That's pretty good for a side project, no?

>> No.14328096

>>14328055
Is it a phone game? Pekora said She is going to shill a phone game today and apparently all holos will be playing it after.

>> No.14328192

>>14327968
The thing is I have lost all hope for Watson and Kiara so they don't even register. They're sorta unpersoned in my head. I consider Myth to be Ina/Mori/Gura and IRyS to be a weak JP more than an EN.

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