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Honest question, what's the point of Hololive Gamers if the channels of almost every girl in Hololive is focused on games?

>> No.1430964

>>1430831
I don't really know how to explain it, but it actually does feel like these four are much more interested in and focused upon games than the rest of their colleagues. I think for most of the others, games are just a good excuse to have streams rather than be the focus.

>> No.1431206

>>1430964
I can definitely see that (although I can't speak anything about Mio since I don't watch her), but I'd also put Subaru on that list, I think she's a true gamer as well. Maybe Pekora as well? Idk, started watching her very recently.

>> No.1431302

>>1431206
I'm not as well versed in Subaru so I can't speak to that, but Pekora would definitely belong in Gamers. It's probably too late to add her after the fact, but perhaps they'll do this if they branch off and make a Gamers 2 (G2 Pekora let's goooo) or something.

>> No.1432896

you're putting the cart before the horse. the gamers gen was the one that firmly established the trend of mostly doing gaming streams.

>> No.1433358

>>1432896
is it?

>> No.1434085

>>1430831
because youtube would censor Hololive Racists

>> No.1434339

>>1434085
???

>> No.1434544

>>1434339
All gamers are white supremacists

>> No.1434619

>>1434544
Highly doubt that. Japanese people actually have a slur for whites, just like people here say 'nigger' all the time.

>> No.1434729

A group specifically focusing on games instead of idol stuff, because back then it seemed like a necessary distinction to make. Niji had something similar.

Gamers also wasn't recruited like a normal gen. In the beginning there was only friend, then Mio got in touch with her and was allowed to join, then they found okakoro at some arcade.

>> No.1434970

>>1434729
>found okakoro at some arcade
That was a joke from Fubuki probably. Okayu had to do an audition and after she got in she recommended Korone who needed no audition at all.

>> No.1435184
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1435184

>>1430831
>Aqua and Ame are better at Apex than FBK
>Korone plays children's games
>Okayu only good because she won't give up until she beats a game, not so much a mark of talent, moreso perseverance
>Don't even know about Mio
"Gamers" must be a much more loose term in JP than in NA, land of the real champs

>> No.1435935

>>1430831
On top of that, that gamer division does idol stuff like all the others.

>> No.1436026

>>1434970
>Korone who needed no audition at all
Is this the truth of Hag Power?

>> No.1436209

>>1435184
I know you're an anti faggot and obviously an autistic /v/tard, but being a gamer more has to do with your passion for games rather than your skill. All four of them are clearly passionate. The name is not a misnomer.

>> No.1436213

I'd still say Korone most personifies the gamer identity among Hololive (not implying she's the best at games)

>> No.1436291

>>1435184
Did you mix up Okayu and Korone

>> No.1437160

>>1435935
They didn't until 1st fes, Okayu famously almost quit because of it

>> No.1439999

Hololive Gamers exist to be by far the best singing unit in Hololive.

>> No.1440225

>>1434729
They were from the same NND circle. Mio probably recruited Okayu, who then got Korone in.

>> No.1440285

>>1439999
>best singing unit in Hololive.
checked and gamerspilled

>> No.1440329

>>1433358
Yeah, as much as only two of them are genuinely good at games, all four of them have good game choices and reactions and genuinely love playing games. Ayame and Suisei are decent gamers but theyre not streaming autists, Suisei is not even into games much, while Aqua loves playing alone. Pekora is a fiftEE/fiftEE, loves streaming and gaming, but I dont think she has ever start any gaming trend unlike HoloGamers, and like Aqua she usually plays solo.

>> No.1440417

>>1430831
Vestige of the past

>> No.1440614

>>1440329
Pekora did start a lot of trends on their Minecraft server though, I think it's safe to count it as actual ones

>> No.1442081

>>1430831
It's mostly an artifact title from gens 1 and 2 still being treated as genuine v-idols. When Gamers was made, they were intended to be the only gaming-focused group (which is why they aren't a standard gen) but then, for one reason or another, all other holos started doing primarily gaming streams, Miko said nigger onstream, Doog took off, and so on and so forth. In the end Gamers got absorbed with the rest of the holoteam but the title stuck after.

>> No.1442148

>>1435184
>>Aqua and Ame are better at Apex than FBK
Aqua yes, Ame no.
>>Korone plays children's games
No, she doesn't.

>> No.1442157

Is it true they can't play NDS games anymore?

>> No.1442168

>>1436213
Korone, Fubuki and Aqua.

>> No.1442171
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1442171

I love Hologamers!

>> No.1442266

>>1436213
>>1442168
after beating games like dk64, sunshine, etc., okayu went for completion on them using guides
that's one of the old-school gamer archetypes there, though zoomers probably don't care about anything that's not a shooter

>> No.1442331

I wish Korone would finish Banjo and Kazooie one day

>> No.1442685

>>1442331
She doesn't care about western shit, americanoid.

>> No.1442928

>>1442331
Why waste time on a shit game?

>> No.1444398

>>1442685
isn't she a westaboo
>>1442928
cringe

>> No.1444462

>>1444398
>isn't she a westaboo
Source?

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>>1444462
she literally just did a watchalong of this movie yesterday anon

>> No.1444684

>>1435184
First off, say no to tribalism. Secondly, maybe I am just interested in other games than you but if being good is the mark of a "gamer", NA is seriously lacking behind in just about any competitive game outside of Brawl. Shooters and MOBA are yuro (though you may argue China had its foot in the door), RTS are Asian turf (as well as Finnish :DDDD ), speedrunning is pretty split (and GDQ is misrepresentative of just about any speedrunning or TAS community).

>> No.1444724

>>1444506
And?

>> No.1444759

>>1444684
>Shooters and MOBA are yuro
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>RTS are Asian turf
Just Korea actually

You know shit all about competitive games.

>> No.1444831

>>1436213
Okayu is high in that regard too, she has been streaming a lot of Nintendo oldies and even 100% them, and her gaming skills are solid too.

Now that I think about it, Okayu has been streaming a lot of Nintendo while Korone has been playing a lot of Sega. Two grown best friends playing games from the age when those two companies were fierce rivals is kind of poetic.

>> No.1444929

>>1442157
I'd love to see them playing 3DS games, but I'm sure modding a console to be able to livestream them would be a huge no no.

>> No.1444962

>>1444831
I wonder how old they are, if they're zoomers then they have good taste in vidya

>> No.1444983

>>1444929
They can play on virtual console (nintendo's retro game store thing idk if it's called that)

>> No.1445370

>>1444759
I see no incentive to explain why I think you're wrong, and it'd be off topic anyway. Tell me something specific, or don't, I don't care.

>> No.1446871

>>1445370
>I'm not gonna explain anything but you have to explain everything you said if you want me to reply
Honestly? I don't care, you are really dumb, but I'll address the essence of your post anyway:
Europeans are not good at any genre competitively, they're actually famous for being trash in almost all relevant competitive games, seriously even south americans have a better track record than them.
>Shooters
Americans dominate.
>Fighting games
Japanese and americans dominate most of the games with south americans dominating in KoF.
>MOBAs
Chinese, americans and koreans dominate.
>RTSs
Koreans dominate.
>Puzzle games
Japanese dominate.
>STGs
Japanese dominate.

>> No.1447150

>>1444962
Is known that Korone is in her mid-30s so surely Okayu is around the same age too if they were good friends before Hololive.

>> No.1447188

>>1434970
The arcade thing is probably just a fancy way of saying "I went to a NND meetup and invited a bunch of people including the two who actually got in"

>> No.1447231

>>1430831
Whats the point of HoloFantasy or HoloMyth if almost every girl is based on some legend of some kind?

>> No.1447270

>>1447150
Mid-30s? Really doubt that, Cover wouldn't hire 35+yos to be idols and their voices are nothing like the voice of a mid-30 person at all. My guess is that Korone is around 24 and Okayu 26~27

>> No.1447295

>>1445370
>I see no incentive to explain why I think you're wrong

libtard with no argument detected

>> No.1447310

>>1447270
this guy thinks your voice changes. not unless your a smoker bud

>> No.1447321

>>1447270
Botan is past 40, from what I've read about her, I don't think Cover really cares that much about age when recruiting new talents.

>> No.1447413

>>1447321
No, she's not.

>> No.1447453

>>1447270
>My guess is that Korone is around 24 and Okayu 26~27
Wow, you're completely wrong. Not sure if Okayu's age has leaked but Korone is confirmed 30+.

>> No.1447794

>>1447453
>Confirmed
And yet you don't provide a single basis for such claims. I can only assume that this 'confirmation' of yours is nothing more than merely unconfirmed speculation by people pretending to be Sherlock Holmes on the internet.

>> No.1447807

>>1447794
>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").
Can't do any more for you but it's not hard to find.

>> No.1447886

>>1447807
I'm not asking you to provide private info of them, I'm asking what is the confirmation that the person you claim to be them is really them. It's easy to point to a random person on twitter and claim they're Korone.

>> No.1447918
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1447918

>>1447886
4chan is not your army

>> No.1447921

>>1447886
A pair of functional ears

>> No.1447986

>>1447918
When did I claim such thing?

>> No.1448364

>>1446871
name a single good non-euro homm3 player

>> No.1448566

>>1446871
Americans definitely do not dominate shooters unless you're referring to console shooters that have no competitive element like Halo.

>> No.1449003

>>1446871
>Shooters
>American dominance
Not really, Euros are the best in the most dominate shooter (CS:GO) while NA currently seems to be better at Valorant, it mostly is a side product of the fact that the EU CS scene didn't hop to it like the NA scene did.
NA does tend to dominate though in less popular shooters like Team Fortress, Quakelikes(And it's not like EU players aren't on an even playing field for these two) and more casual shooters like COD and Fortnite, but that could be due to a lack of international interest in those games rather than NA players just being better.

>> No.1449994

Is it really true that Korone was married?

>> No.1450202

>>1447231
I wouldn't say everyone has a fantasy or legend theme (Sora, Miko, Matsuri, Roboco), but you have a point. I think Gamers/Fantasy/Myth were each ways to give the new chuubas a more interesting spin or branding. Besides, EN is not considered to have Gens according to Subaru, https://youtu.be/2g28bXyIWuc

>>1446871
You are at least providing something to talk about, so unironically thanks. I'll amend my shit takes then.
>Europeans are not good at any genre competitively
This was not the essence of my post, I just said NA is lacking behind.
>Shooters
See this post >>1449003. I guess Overwatch is NA-dominated, so I'll give you that.
>RTS holos when, I just want to see my chuuba have fun with it, I don't care how skilled they are god damned
SC II is korean dominated. Outside of non-korea, Serral wipes the floor with everyone and Reynor had been a fairly successful newcomer. Then there is the only competitively successful solo trans player (and leaf) which had an amazing run a few years ago, but it's by no means consistently on Serral's or Korean level.
AoE II has barely any koreans playing.
WC III has a strong chinese and european presence. Except for Scarlett and Neeb, I know of barely any good US players in the popular RTS scene.
>MOBA
Team Secret is European, Victus Pro is Russian. Both get good placements in DotA 2. None of the top 10 best players are Chinese, US or Korean. League I stopped following after Season 2 so I don't really know. There are many Chinese teams and some good koreans. The most successful teams are T1 (CN), G2 (KR), fnactic (EU), and then there is TSM (US) which has not a single US player in the active roster. The best players are a mix of Chinese and Korean. I don't see much of an US present here, so that's bullshit, anon.

Lastly, many US teams are mixed with Euros or Asians, while the reverse isn't less common. You can do your research on this to prove me wrong if you want to. Feel free to feed me counterexamples, but as I said, we could wank about this until the OT ban.
>>1447295
Feel addressed, or don't, "libtard" (because you have no argument, get it?).

>> No.1450614

>>1450202
You're not a gamer. Your post is trash. You will never be a women.

>> No.1450721
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1450721

>>1430831
>what's the point of Hololive Gamers
To be Hololive's elite unit for the very best. They couldn't call it Hololive Elite as to not upset 35p.

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1450777

Name ONE (1) reason why she shouldn't be in Gamers.

>> No.1450800

>>1450777
Too old.

>> No.1450874

>>1437160
I haven't heard of this, did she threaten to quit because they wanted her to do idol stuff or because they didn't want her to?

>> No.1450944

>>1430964
Many of the girls aren't really gamers, even if they play a lot of games. A lot of them use videogames as a way to interact with each other, as zatsudans, or just because it's the "thing" that Holos do.
There's a difference between that and someone who can get addicted to multiple games for multiple hours at a time, and really get involved with the lore or the gameplay.
Not that being less of a gamer is a bad thing, but it is always easy to tell who is a gamer and who is just playing videogames. Some of the girls really just love games, others enjoy them like they'd enjoy anything else they try out for fun.

>> No.1450957

>>1447886
Anon no one can provide you with that info without doxxing her roommate. Trust us, she's over 30 and it shows.

>> No.1451254

>>1450777
OKBL exists.

>> No.1451325

>>1450944
Let's be fair, the concept of "gamer" has been so muddled and corrupted during the past decade that a soccer mom playing Candy Crush was considered one, as you can recall the several "Women are a mayority in the gaming community" articles.

Taking gamer as a pure concept, girls like Korone, Okayu, Subaru and Pekora are definitely gamers, they play a variety of games and genres and most importantly, they have fun with them. At least, they're way more gamer than 90% of the self-proclaimed ones infesting this hobby nowadays.

>> No.1451449

>>1451254
Not even close to SMOK.

>> No.1451474

>>1450874
She didn't like her voice nd wasn't confident enough to do the idol stuff

>> No.1451502

>>1430831
What makes Fubuki a Gamer?

>> No.1451600

>>1451474
Source?

>> No.1451626

>>1451502
Watch her Hollow Knight streams. She's honestly a prodigy, she defeated the Mantis boss in 4 attempts. This same boss took Ina 25 attempts or so.

>> No.1451647

>>1451600
https://youtu.be/GFY77_wcCM4
Theres also another video of it iirc, but I can't find it

>> No.1451657

I get the impression that Gamer just means they're primarily into gaming streams, while the others still do stuff like karaokes and zatsudans
Doesn't Korone also play games for hours and hours on end too? Just like what someone who's really into games would do

>> No.1454026

>>1451657
As several people have posted, it's an artifact from early Holo when they were trying to keep the idol stuff and the gaming stuff separate, nowadays its hust a misnomer since thei idols also do heavy gaming and the gamers also do singing stuff

>> No.1454243

>>1430831
>>1454026
Probably kept the Gamer label because Hololive 2.5 Gen or Gen 0 ver. 2 wouldn't sound very good and games factor into a majority of their generated content.

>> No.1454356

>>1430831
most of hololive just play whatever game the company is currently shilling and could give zero fucks about the game, the 'hololive gamers' seem to actually like playing games

>> No.1454372

>>1430964
It's just not the same after the holocaust since Mio fucking loves adventure/point n click, that's why she does the most zatsudan and went on an ukelele training arc.

>> No.1454374

>>1434619
yeah, but it's the same as blacks having a slur for whites. they know there's no bite to it.

>> No.1454390

>>1454356
Subaru, Pekora and Aqua also seem to enjoy games.

>> No.1454395

they stream shit that isnt apex minecraft and undertale, im surprised enma hasnt made them all graduate

>> No.1454407

>>1454372
>holocaust
???????

>> No.1454420

>>1430831
I think their original intention was to be more like idols and less like twitch streamers, but that changed.

>> No.1454450

>>1436209
>but being a gamer more has to do with your passion for games rather than your skill
So they're talent is.....to play games more passionately than literally every other holo member?
But then they aren't really because other Holo members play games for longer, or are more invested, or have a higher skill cap

>> No.1454460

>>1450202
>SC2
>Generally monotonous map balance, unless it's a really old map
>Only a few Koreans even care about SC2 anyway

>> No.1454479

>>1454407
He means that time Capcom DMCAd a bunch of Mio's videos and got 2 copyright strikes on her channel. It's the reason why Cover has to get permision to monetize streams from publishers and why a bunch of older stuff is private/deleted

>> No.1454482

>>1454407
Many prior gaming streams from the talents got taken down because Cover didn't have the proper permits for them to be streaming the games they were streaming and they had to take down the streams in response. Mio suffered the worst of it.

>> No.1454516

>>1454479
Is there an Archive for the stuff that was lost?

>> No.1454527

>>1454390
agreed

>> No.1454566

>>1454516
Yes
https://hololivevideos.download/channel/ookamimio
After the Paper, Please I saw that some anons didn't know that Mio already played Obra Din, it's there

>> No.1454710

>>1454566
What about the other girls?

>> No.1454787

>>1450777
She's already part of Holofive. Breaking it up and sending her to Gamers wouldn't go well and is unnecessary to begin with since all Hololives are Gamers-lite anyways.

>> No.1454866

>>1454787
>since all Hololives are Gamers-lite anyways
Swap out Fubuki with Aqua, there'd be an increase in gamer credibility

>> No.1454905

>>1454710
https://hololivevideos.download/
https://v.ikx.me/

>> No.1455206

>>1454866
How's Fubuki less of a gamer than Aqua? Did you even seen a full stream from her? She learns really fast and her skills in several different types of games is impressive. She was even diamond in Apex just like Aqua.

>> No.1457126

>>1455206
>She was even diamond in Apex
Source?

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