/asp/ - Aspiring Vtuber and Startup

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What is /asp/?

A thread where we discuss our vtuber aspirations! Whether it's agency-based or independent, let's help each other grow and make it as entertainers. Indies are welcome to join, but shill responsibly. Share what knowledge, insights, what works/doesn't work for you. Remember to do your research before providing personally identifying information to companies online!

FAQ:
Do I need an expensive, fully rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
No! You can always start out as a pngtuber!

Where can I learn how to Live2D rig avatars?
Check out Brian Tsui's (of Iron Vertex) YouTube channel!

Where can I find artists/riggers?
Skeb.jp, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

Twitch or Youtube?
Multistream to both.

RESOURCES:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
List of Assets and other resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Stay grounded, stay hopeful. Don't kill yourself yet, and bump the thread sometimes.

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What's your primary motivation for streaming, /asp/? Is that a question you've asked yourself recently? I like to think about that a lot because I think it helps keep me focused on what's important to me.

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>>14279563
For me, I just love the idea of running a successful production - its rare to have that perfect stream where everything goes *just right* but when it happens it feels so great.

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>>14279563
Mine was to get stream and inspire people regardless of the numbers I pulled. Now I'm not so sure.

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I actually want to earn money from this.
I know I have to spend a lot of time, but right now I'm on like 1 hour a day

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>>14279563
It helps me to *do* something, while I struggle with basic stuff like eating or changing clothes everyday, I feel more productive and it kinda helps with my depression

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>>14279836
A schedule can be a huge help with stuff like that, I'm really happy to hear that, anon.

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>>14279873
Thank you! It even encouraged me to look for a job again, to support myself and get a proper l2d, so I am on a good way. It's honestly best therapy I could get, and I feel like I get more support from my viewers than my own family lol

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>>14279563
I used to watch VividlyASMR on youtube, and then found her on Twitch, migrated over to watch her streams there.

She had so much FUN! She was playing old retro games, and it felt like hanging out with a friend. She'd recognize us in chat, there were little injokes, organizing future streams... I thought it looked like something I'd like to be part of.

I'm now realizing that part of that was due to her charisma, but part of it was the size of her chat. I've never found a smaller channel that's quite as much fun, because it's all so much slower. So I'm a way off

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bump

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>>14282675
Hi Anyaposter, what do you look for in an aspiring vtuber?

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please don't die

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>>14292011
I think in the absence of any corporate auditions, there might not be enough interest to sustain these threads, which is a shame, because in the past they've been very helpful from time to time.

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>>14279563
To form a small but tightly knit community

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Don't die thread

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>>14292669
Which is odds because it's a pipe dream, getting into an org with zero experience in anything which is what most /asp/ies have. Wish more people would just build up their skills instead of hoping for a miracle.

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Femanons, what would/do you look for in a /m/ale chuuba?

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>>14295998
I think a lot of people who post here are doing so to establish those skills, at least if the past few crops of /asp/ies have been any indication.

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You are not debuting without a wiggly, are you?

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>>14295998
I think the trend is that seeing news of auditions gets a lot of anons thinking about the prospect of being a chuuba in the first place; I've heard it said a lot that people say that they'll start up and use what they learn for the upcoming auditions
I definitely have seen there be more than a few anons talk about having like, no recent streaming experience sending in interview after interview and not even entertain the thought of doing their reps though

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>>14279563
for fun mainly, had some strim ideas for the longest time, wrote it down on a notebook, wanted to get around to doing them.

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>>14297373
Anyone thinking about auditioning without doing their reps is already firmly in NGMI territory

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>>14296687
it's definitely personal preferences.
i watch different male chuubas for different reasons. some are educational, some are just aesthetically/vocally attractive, mostly i watch for the energy.
i love high energy streamers that can keep my attention. you can just tell they'd be stupid fun to hang out with.
(just some examples but these are the two that really can keep my eyes glued to the twitch tab for the longest: woozle for the sheer chaos and zero fuck vibes, shanaha bc he's a really good commentator, the way he talks is so smooth as if he's reading from a script. you can also tell when someone is passionate about what theyre doing, so just play games that you actually like and not just because its trendy. for example theres a big difference with when i watch tooru vs other chuubas when playing pokemon. its an actual interest of his and you can tell)


for lower energy streamers, i really like those that have something to offer. if theyre not entertaining, they should have something special. interesting stories? trivia?

imagine if you sat with a stranger and they just started larping, i wouldnt really be into that.

so (unironically) i do really like bloom. i get that he's older than most chuubas (probably) so he just gives that vibe of like a cool dad with interesting life stories.
low energy but still enjoyable streams, also he sounds nice, and he sings well, and i also like how organised he is, and he's kinda wholesome so the gap moe when he has drunk streams is just too adorable.


if you can't pull in with sheer personality, make sure you have something else to offer.
talk about something that makes your eyes twinkle, i think thats the most captivating way to keep an audience.

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>>14297846
It should be obvious but I've seen it a surprising amount of people be like, "yeah I used to make videos that got big in 2010 that's good enough of a portfolio right"
I fell like if you can't put aside time to stream now as an indie then trying to go corpo makes no sense

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>>14297373
from personal experience, (i auditioned for some companies before), if you can have some charm points/talents, (good conversationalist, can sing, or if you just fit the vibe of what theyre looking for),
it's enough to make it to the final interviews. As in, they're literally just choosing between a handful of people.

i had minimal streaming experience, but i had everything else. played/sang in a band, studied animation for 5 years and was well versed in the tech and chuuba knowledge.

Thing is, streaming experience is probably the 'safe' thing that most companies would really require. for example if theyre picking between two talented chuubas, they'd pick the one with more experience.

>>14297846
I still think they should go for it. You may not be accepted, but it helps you compile your skills in one video resume, lets you take a step back and re-assess what you're lacking or what else you need to have to be the full package.
I auditioned mostly to find out what else I could do, it really just puts you in the more serious mindset so you can reprioritize. for me, when i auditioned i realised school was more important to me, because they asked would i be willing to sacrifice my extra time to ensure i can stream a minimum of 3 times a week?

just helps you think. kinda like a practice examination paper, or something. sorry for babbling.

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>>14298003
I think that's the same type of attitude that doesn't understand why new Holomembers get 100k+ subs instantly, and feel upset that they don't also see instant success. It's a wild form of entitlement

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>>14298202
same anon but i think what i was trying to say was,

don't audition with the intention to go corpo. audition to find out what corpos are looking for, and see what else you need. (literal first hand experience) the best metaphor i can think of is that guy in that game papers please with the fake passport who just kept trying and trying with the wackiest documents until he got in.

if u get in congrats!! if u dont, its not the end of the world, just keep trying. and remember ur definitely allowed to fall, just make sure you get up and try again smarter.

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okay guys i have a character sheet of what i want now i need to find a good artist to make the model and rigging i guess this is one of the hardest parts.

why people refer the artist/rigger as papa or mama? should i do the same once i got my model?

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>>14298750
carryover from Japanese vtubers. you don't have to if you don't want there aren't any rules about this.

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>>14298750
It's just a cute way to refer to the people who drew/animated you; you don't have to refer to them as such of you think it's weird

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>>14298750
I think it's cute, but it doesn't matter

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>>14278677
Is it a good idea to start streaming without a schedule and very late in the night? like 2-5am.
I live in an all female house and they're really noisy. Its like the meme of the latinoamerican guy in Voice chat. Would streaming at that late fuck me or should I wait until I can move?

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>>14299821
>Is it a good idea to start streaming
>Would streaming at that late fuck me or should I wait until I can move?
i'm not really sure what you're really trying to ask here. if you're starting streaming from zero with no experience, it really doesn't matter. any streams you do will get you more experience. since you can expect to stream to zero viewers for the first handful of streams, it doesn't really matter all that much. i don't know what you mean when you ask if streaming at that late time zone would "fuck you"

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>>14279563
Everything I can do on stream or preparing for streaming involves becoming more talented, likable, etc. and simultaneously grows me a following, which is totally in line with my goals of world domination
In seriousness it's because I've liked the idea of living life like a story or work of art for a while and streaming like 10-20% of said life to showcase work you put in during like another 10-20% of it is a pretty good way to do that. Very fulfilling lifestyle for me.

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>>14299821
2-5 AM is possibly a kinda a shit time since asia is working and US is sleeping, you'll get mostly EU audiences and I just haven't seen that demographic around weebshit as much. If you can work your life around it, 6-10ish AM eastern time hits evening asia and most of the US at some points.

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>>14300299
I wish I was less limited in my possible stream times

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>>14301485
then stream locally and upload vods instead.

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>>14301485
Talking purely about ideals here. By shit time I only mean you're gonna have to work harder on reach outside of just turning the camera on in a good category. Streaming is full of challenges like that, especially as a hobbyist; the only outlook that'll work for success (even in a personal sense) is to face them happily

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if you make corpo, how would you balance your new corpo life with the friends you've made as an indie?

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>>14302065
I dunno but I guess I know who might
hey lumi u there

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You guys ever thought of managing an indie?

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>>14302271
Hi

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>>14302490
how would you respond to >>14302065

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>>14302645
>>14302065
Apologize profusely because you have less time than before and show up in as many streams as possible. Try to catch up in dms and schedule hangouts when you can. People have all been very kind to me given new time constraints and I haven't really had any issues.

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>>14300299
I should have mention that my audience would be hispanics. Im not that confident in my eigo and you have a lot of "no words" while we often say wathever we want

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>>14299888
yeah my lack of english practice made me write kinda weird. I was trying to say that if it would not make my numbers increase. But yeah it shouldnt matter to me since I should focus on gaining experience first

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Editing is one of the skills you need to be successful. No one makes it without an editor being involved somewhere so either you learn yourself, pay someone, or just hope you're good enough that clippers love you. Assume you won't be and go with one of the first two.

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>>14303585
got any resources to get started learning?

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>>14303603
Not a specific one. I taught myself but there's a million guides for a million programs on Youtube. I'd say DaVinci is a good free editing software.

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>>14303603
DaVinci Resolve is a pretty easy free tool to pick up and learn; you really only need to know how to trim your videos and add text which are both pretty straightforward; I could write a guide on that later on if anyone would want to see like, a very basic step by step on clipping and adding captions

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>>14303696
>>14303745
what are the things you need to know for davinci? it doesn't seem like much.
>text pop up for captions when talking
>zoom in and zoom out effects
these two seem to be the most common ones. even nijisanji's official clipper on their channel only really uses these two. is there anything else that should be a staple?

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>>14303779
Watch other indie clips and find out the common traits. Everyone has their own editing style but there's some things that are just universal.

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I’m sick of going into smaller channels and seeing y’all just hang out with other chuuba friends on stream. Your number 1 priority should be the enjoyment of your audience, then enjoyment for yourself. You do have your priorities straight right?

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don't take the bait faggots, thread's shit enough as it is

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>>14310396
>Your number 1 priority should be the enjoyment of your audience
and a lot of audiences enjoy this. Big streamers do this all the time. There's a huge market for it, you just want attention.

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>>14303779
the two things you mentioned, as well as having images pop in and out properly
one other things you could take the time to learn but is mostly for shitposting purposes is how to superimpose your face over another character in a clip but that can be very time consuming depending on how long the clip is

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>>14311230
>shitposting purposes is how to superimpose your face over another character in a clip
is there a specific term or phrase that's used to describe this effect? i think i know what you're talking about but don't know how to search for tutorials to recreate it because i don't know the name for that effect.

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>>14311914
"tracking effect" would probably be what you're looking for

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>>14312094
thanks anon

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>>14279563
i want to be able to talk about the things I love and share them with other people... its a really nice feeling when someone tells you they decided to do something because of your stream

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>>14317591
That's a great motivator, anon. What are the things you want to share most with others?

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>>14321170
mostly just the games that i love; it makes me happy when can introduce them to the people who watch me, and also when i get to talk to people who are as experienced (or more experienced) as i am with them

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>>14323794
Nice! I've noticed for niche games, often you'll end up getting other members of that community scoping up your stream. It's a great way to grow your audience, and if they like you, they may come by to your streams that aren't the niche game they're interested in.

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>>14298202
I thought I have it all, but I never went through first wave, I just feel so useless anon
Like I thought I can sing and talk and all but I end up at one view

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>>14310396
Many people enjoy conversations between two or more people, especially if they kinda rp and click with themselves well, it can lead to many fun interactions

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bump

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>>14330741
Anyaposter, what chuubas do you like?

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>>14332158
I’ll answer this one tomorrow, I’m tired.