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>Tfw Ethyria are about to hit their 2nd month and we still haven't got even an announcement on the male wave
They pussied out, haven't they?

>> No.14262953
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Got intimidated by Slugma's power move.

>> No.14264132
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>>14262857
January 15th
Trust me on this one

>> No.14264209

It's possible it won't be for another month or two since Ethyria auditions had the designs ready, the males seemingly don't

>> No.14264281

Tsunderia's males flopped hard so they realized that males aren't cut out for the west. Migrants from the Homobegging thread will try to disagree though despite history showing the vast majority of successful vtubers in the west are female, and their "perfect" fanfic tier vtuber doesn't exist.

>> No.14264290

>>14262857
>>14262857
They afraid of holomyth costume & holoid3 stealing their spotlight rumao,male wave gonna be January

>> No.14264327

>>14264281
>everyone who likes males is a homobeggar
Opinion discarded

>> No.14264353

>>14264327
>likes males
Opinion discarded

>> No.14264382

>>14264281
No they didn't you fucking schizo, they're doing regular ass indie numbers like everyone else in their gen except the sheep that was shilled by the faggot leech tuber.

>> No.14264403

>>14264281
it's like Nijisanji had instant success when hajime and toya debuted

>> No.14264500

>>14264281
> Tsunderia's males flopped hard
you mean tsunderia vtubers flopped hard

>> No.14264623

>>14264353
Proof that you have no idea how this shit works. Also Tsunderia never had numbers. Holofags shouldn't talk about things they don't understand.

>> No.14264703

>>14264623
>Holofags shouldn't talk about things they don't understand.
retard they couldn't be talking about anything that way

>> No.14264809

>>14264281
It's not that drastic but yeah, I think the crop of guys they get will be meh at best. You could argue that just like people put a lot of expectations on the Council, a lot of unnecessary expectations are being placed on the male wave simply because it's Nijisanji.

>> No.14270628

>>14264281
>Tsunderia's males flopped hard
no they did not

>> No.14270761

>>14264703
A perfect world

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>>14270628
https://youtu.be/JYrWBiYHoAQ

>> No.14270831

This thread is retarded, wave 4 has been following the exact same timeline as earlier waves. Graduations last month (even if all we saw was Tora...) and logically an announcement at the end of this month and an early debut in January. Don't be a faggot, the girls have constantly mentioned the boys being on their way.

>> No.14270849

>>14264623
>nijinigger hands type this

>> No.14270928

>>14270849
>No argument
seethe harder holotroon.

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>>14264281
>history shows

Holoen has been around just over a year what history are you referring to?

>> No.14271067

>>14262857
Takahata's going to be one of them

>> No.14271112

>>14262857
And that's a good thing. They should establish the male brand first, like making Nijistars Twitter account and post some teaser a month before they debut or something. They aren't Hololive, they can't just debut new gen out of nowhere.

>> No.14271224

>>14264403
They were getting 5k average viewers in 2018, is that not successful enough?

>> No.14271238

>>14262857
>Moot quit google several months ago.
Moot will be in male wave.

>> No.14271851

>>14271238
What's he doing now?

>> No.14272228

Returning OP here
>>14264281
Tsunderia in general was doomed to flop the very second they made the dumb fucking decision to force their most popular vtuber to graduate over a yab no one gave a shit about. The males were doomed to fail as a result just like everyone else past 0th gen.
>>14271112
Nijisanji isn't Hololive and has always mixed the males with the females. Obviously they're hesitant this time around since idol culture's no male rules have taken over the west. At the most they'll advertise a silhouette male banner like they did with Ethyria.

>> No.14272586

>>14272228
>Obviously they're hesitant this time around since idol culture's no male rules have taken over the west
OP why did you make this thread when you have no idea what you're talking about in any avenue in which you're speaking on? Nobody in the west gives a fuck about idol culture besides /vt/ LARPers, in fact the majority of Hololive's fanbase concentrated on Leddit actively wants it abolished. And to begin with "no males" isn't a fucking idol culture rule to begin with seeing as idols collab with men all of the time and male idols exist. Not to mention the fact that this thread is built on a false premise when the regular time for NijiEN debuts hasn't been reached yet and the talents themselves always hint at the upcoming male wave. Kill yourself.

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>>14264403
Try that again. Aki fell off from the beginning (and is reverse babi) but while Hajime decreased, the second Gen 2 came out, men were climbing to the top.
Not like it has anything to do with OP's statement. This is Japan afterall, where vtubers are normal to the people who watch them instead of people on this damn board going "why don't you just stream with your face hurr"

>> No.14277587

>>14276247
Akabane...

>> No.14278168

They've had a lot of "meetings" lately so no doubt the homos are still on their way.

>> No.14279574

>>14270964
>Thinks HoloEN is all there is.
They just (very) successfully rode the wave Melody created in early 2020.
Before Mel there are years of indies, and all the successful ones happen to be female, Zentreya rrats notwithstanding.

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>>14279574
No one is watching a fucking pornstar, twitch scum.

>> No.14279852

>>14279767
Doesn't matter what she does for a living (and it was chaturbate, not twitch that made her famous). She made the western market profitable and that's what made the corporations enter the market.

>> No.14280162

>>14279767
>No one is watching a fucking pornstar
40,000 viewers watched her 2020 valentines stream on CB. Two years later and she's still #1 front page when she streams there. avg. 10K-15K viewers.
Lots of people watch a pornstar.
Just not (You).

>> No.14280861

>>14262857
It's it impossible for Nijimale to be fantastic. It's just very unlikely.

>> No.14283039

>>14262857
Isn't they always announce when Its almost the time to debut them?

>> No.14283305
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The only reason a man can dislike other men is being insecure over his own fragile sexuality, in other words, if you avoid watching male chuubas, you're gay. There, I said it.

>> No.14283317

>>14283305
All male chuubas are fujo bait and gay.

>> No.14283323

>>14283305
This, plus anons who say they want males to look "realistic" instead of anime are the same as tumblrinas who want all anime to be black people

>> No.14283331

>There, I said it.
Go back to tumblr.

>> No.14283339

>>14283323
Why are you making shit up.

>> No.14283358

>>14283317
The vast majority of male VTubers have a majority male audience in it for the bro experience. Maimoto has a meagre 5% female viewership, but he's not killing it with the fag audience either.

>> No.14283384

>>14283305
t.friendless loser.

>> No.14283392

>>14283339
I'm not, this board has a fear of male vtubers and thinks because they all look gay, "realistic" ones would perform better as they're closer to real life fat men on Twitch

>> No.14283408

>>14283392
I've seen no one say they want realistic ugly anime. I think you are making shit up.

>> No.14283459

>>14262857
>fujo-targeted designs
I wonder if any of the big companies will ever realize the potential of male friend simulators aimed at young men and boys. The biggest (and most obnoxious) male youtubers and twitch streamers all fall into this category.

>> No.14283531

>>14283459
Are you referring to the preview image for auditions? Those are existing livers. Are you so new that you can't identify Kuzuha at the very least?

>> No.14284456

>>14280162
Yeah, Melody is effectively the Kizuna Ai of the western vtuber market. She created it and made it viable for indies and corpos to join.

>> No.14284703

>>14283408
Directly under your post. And in every single male en vtubers thread.
>all male anime is fujo and gay
>wheres my fatass twitch streamers
>I can't watch Kuzuha or else I'll turn homosexual

>> No.14284723
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Males will come, but chances are they will break the wave interval introduction that the last two waves exhibit. Why is this? We may not know. Either that how fast they pushed out wave three and how long they tried to get all four girls to a stable 1k viewers (which still hasn't happened, they fluctuate hard from 500~2k), or that it is taking them much longer to get through applicants because they know that there is a very good chance the males can fall flat on their face if they don't select well enough. While they have seen acceptance of males from collab partners (Niji ID/KR/JP, and various indies) they may want a sure shot to have a permanent male presence.

>> No.14285049

>>14283459
>The biggest (and most obnoxious) male youtubers and twitch streamers all fall into this category.
The difference being the level of freedom. Young men/boys want a friend who will do some crazy stuff, look at all the stuff male streamers say, do and get away with it. While Niji doesn't have holo levels of restrictions it certainly has more than your random guy who accidentally blew up. Why would this market care about some faggy looking anime dude, when there is a twitch ecosystem of big male streamers. Who can talk about drama, meet up irl, play whatever they want whenever and straight up just stream other people's videos and call it react content. They don't need to worry about any oh my company doesn't like your company, they can rock up on any stream if the other streamer lets them.

Vtubers blew up cause no matter how much anyone pretends it is some level of GFE. One that people tell themselves isn't really the same as a ethot cause reasons. That's a niche. Corporate Male vtubers can't compete at that, and aren't on an even footing with normal male streamers. So it is highly dependent on snagging absolute gems who aren't harmed by the restrictions.

>> No.14285071

>>14283531
Yeah, that's what Holobronies act like. Prepare for a wave of idiotic posts like that once they actually debut later this month.

>> No.14285120

>>14264132
wtf rosemi codes in lisp???

>> No.14285253

>>14262857
Males vtubers only work with Japanese Male and it's per say culture
Here in the west males are way too much of dangerous gamble, I don't think nijisanji wants to deal with a predator problem and be the talk of the town about how the hired sexual harasser and even groomers
>>14285049
Man... if this was pre-2011 maybe Male vtubers would work but after pewdiepie showed the world not to care about your anonymity and show your face, every Male streamer is eager to show their face and be as bombastic as they can
I miss the mic only no face cam let's plays

>> No.14285342

>>14285253
>Males vtubers only work with Japanese Male and it's per say culture
>Here in the west males are way too much of dangerous gamble, I don't think nijisanji wants to deal with a predator problem and be the talk of the town about how the hired sexual harasser and even groomers
Oh the irony in this post.

>> No.14285708

>>14285342
Alright I'll bite, what's the irony here?

>> No.14285762

>>14285708
Look into a guy named Shindo Raito.

>> No.14285800

>>14264281
All Tsunderia's talents flop how can they tell the difference with the males?

>> No.14285906

>>14285253
>but after pewdiepie showed the world not to care about your anonymity
He also showed that, apart from sexual misconduct, you can really say or do anything and come back. But once you're a corpo that is different, Pewdiepie did get dropped from big gigs yet landed on his feet. Partly cause he owned his channel and identity that many were still interested in. There are of course cleaner ones than him yet they also have a pretty fair amount of freedom. Including if they cosy up right getting to collab with the most unhinged streamers. Male vtubers will have to find a niche and you can't create one if you don't get really good talent.

>> No.14285942

>>14285253
Ah yes Japanese men, so famous for never doing anything wrong

>> No.14285967

>>14262857
Its gonna be another ESL majority wave

>> No.14286011

>>14285967
We only know Tora's in so far and that's a point towards English fluency at least.

>> No.14286073

>>14262857
Who will elira get hired this time

>> No.14286234

>>14285942
I never said the can't do wrong, but that they're docile when it comes to the work place and keeping an image for the company
We westerners usually don't give a fuck about the image of a company and once we had enough we do tend to go apeshit against a company or corpo

>> No.14286259

>>14262857
They all look like fate characters

>> No.14286272

>>14285049
>what is Nijisanji

>> No.14286275

>>14286234
I just realized I used docile to describe the Japanese wtf

>> No.14286433

>>14286272
Like I said, if you think nijis have normal streamers levels of freedom you are deluded. But then a lot here seem to be deluded 2view males thinking they'll make it big with niji and get to marry selen.

>> No.14286461

>>14262857
I'd love to see the reactions here if one of the models turns out to be a nigger

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>>14286461
YO WE BE NIGGASANI WHYTE BOI.
https://streamable.com/bogi4p

>> No.14286872

>>14283459
Whenever they check out SunKenji

>> No.14288994

>>14272228
>Returning OP here
Damn I thought this was just a shitty bait thread

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