/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Ok, so when is Omega getting fired?

[Anonymous No.]

Omegatranny should never come back.

[Anonymous No.]

he went on break because he knew council is too much of a shitshow to salvage

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>>13967167
Gura would get fired before Omega. Omega's too important to the success of HoloEN.

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>>13967167
It's unbelievable to me that 52k is a BAD month for Mori, she is simply unstoppable.
Kiara as well, to a lesser extent

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>>13967167
What do the numbers mean Mason

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>>13967167
>gets paid full time for tweeting and talking shit to holos
Livin the dream

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>>13967167
>He doesn't know what going MIA means

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>>13967167
>NijiEN revenue tripled in half a year
>Myth dropped by half in the same period
>and Council dropped by 2/3 in 3 months

This is unreal.

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>>13967167
>everyone crashing hard in October
But why? What happened in October specifically?

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>>13967167
Maybe they should hire some people who actually want to stream and work like most of their Japanese counterparts that aren't just Kiara and Calli.

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>>13967387
Summerfags left.

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>>13967387
Whales leaving for Nijisanji. Now you know why collabs get cancelled.

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>>13967267
its not bad, april was her bday buff, jan was 1m? milestone

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>>13967411
like Ayame

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>>13967167
>b-but the superchat
kek, is this why NijiEN will never release any merch? Even on birthdays?

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>>13967255
EN success is on Coco and Covid. This fag had shit to do with it.

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>>13967292
they mean that OP is a faggot.

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>>13967462
>>b-but the superchat

That was hololive cope before they exploded due to EN, Covid, Aloe shitstorm and Coco.

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>>13967167
>HoloEN peak is 360k
>now they make 222k

>NijiEN makes 145k

220 + 140 = 360

Really makes you think.

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>>13967437
What part of "most" don't you understand, retard?

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>>13967411
I hope your picture is ironic because Selen doesn't match. She's one of the laziest and most boring steamers in EN.

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>>13967599
Now this is cute cope.

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>>13967469
That's JP, Coco and Covid had nothing to do with HoloEN. Omega is EN's producer and is the sole reason for Myth's existence and immediate success.

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>>13967631
Whatever helps you cope buddy.

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>>13967586
Ok I'm sorry that Japanese people aren't perfect, I didn't realize this was such a sore spot for you.

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>>13967569
Consider the following
If what you're after is for the chubba you're watching to read your message, it's optimal to SC a smaller chubba because they need it, are more likely to read it, and more likely to appreciate it. Note how Mori, Kiara and Sana and IRyS go out of their way to read ALL of the SCs and don't discourage people SCing then either. The rest of HoloEN either actively discouraged SC or the parasocial aspect, and so their SC numbers we lower.
One thing to consider though (and we can't see it) is that as your viewership grows, so too does your membership base and VOD views, which, given this is YOUTUBE and not Twitch, VOD views matter a lot for ad revenue. It wouldn't surprise me if all of HoloEN's non SC revenue easily dwarfs NijiEN, but we'll, we can't see it so we can't shitpost using it.
TL;dr
SCing smaller chubbas and those that WILL read your message is more bang for your buck, and the numbers reflect this.

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>>13967167
At what point do you faggots get so good at this numberfagging that you are just doing free business analyst work. All that's missing is someone setting up a SQL database and making a power bi dashboard for this bullshit.

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>>13967167
>numbers, numbers, numbers
>no metric
Garbage useless sheet

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>>13967875
Anon that's like 5 minutes of work.

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>>13967710
Are you for fucking real? Vtubers and streaming in general exploded during lockdowns.

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>>13967710
I've read some pretty insane statements since this board's creation. Rrats that could only be created under heavy drugs usage, schizos that are highly likely to be clinically unstable and should seek immediate help, people who take baits of such low quality that make me believe their IQ are in the negatives. But this? This might be the crown jewel. This is probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen with my own eyes in this hellhole.

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>>13967167
The burnout is real.

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>>13967710

Omega almost caused HoloEN to fail entirely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNsXP_0XMgU

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>>13968694
Kiara talked about terrible management many times too.

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>>13967167
You have a problem

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>>13967167
Uhhhh Holobros???? I thought HoloCHADS always had the best >numbers

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>>13967710
Omega might have pushed for HoloEN and supposedly was at ground zero if he is to be believed, but that doesn't mean that he was the sole factor for its success. If anything, HoloEN is arguably a case where it succeeded in spite of the management, not because of it.
COVID lockdowns were still pretty high with few if any vaccines, interest in Vtubers were steadily growing, the demand for English vtubers was at its highest since it was mostly ID/JP/CN branches up to that point. When one of the most popular vtuber companies finally set up an EN branch filled with differing personalities from different backgrounds that interacted with each other, it was basically a recipe for success.
But that said the ENs were still heavily limited in terms of game permissions at the time, more than they were now. They also had this weird restriction with Coco/Haachama interactions long after the drama subsided, despite their immediate success and how it boosted Cover overall they also didn't have quality merch at the time, it was just weird. It also seems like the ENs did most of the heavily lifting in terms of stuff like 3D events out of their pocket and the Walfie costume reveals at the time than Cover did with, far as I know. And if Omega was really integral to Myth's success, then why isn't Council at that same point yet?

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>>13967167
>MIA
gee what could this mean

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>>13969986
Omega is going to Miami to help set up the NA studio for the EN/ID girls 3D debut

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Council needed more chuuni roleplay and prehype bullshit.
I'm sure going cosmic deities wasn't enough, they needed to go for an even more abstract high concept theme.
Glad ometranny is there to stop off company collabs too. Imagine if Hololive members could have fun with other people, that'd be awful.
Ometranny did nothing wrong guys.

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Vtubers are treated as gacha. Its not about building an audience its about getting gifted an audience and trying hard not to lose them to another new shiny vtuber. Connor was right.

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>>13970915
Go to bed Connor

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>>13967167
yea i wonder why en's sc numbers start dropping at half-year and beyond. Surely that cant have anything to do with the merch starting to sell out.

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>>13973547
Merch did nothing for JP numbers fag. Stop justifying this shit. HoloEN declined hard in the last few months.

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>>13970488
You will watch your 1 hour and 1 minute forced collabs and like it.

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>>13967167
Omega made HoloEN and xe can unmake if xe wants to. cope.

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great fucking excel spreadsheet. cant wait to look at it

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>>13970488
>Glad ometranny is there to stop off company collabs too. Imagine if Hololive members could have fun with other people, that'd be awful.
This, but unironically. Outside of some minnow corps who Holo would never look at in anyway there is not a single bearable western chuuba.

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>>13974649
You don't watch them. Thankfully paypigs are jumping ship so HoloEN will be forced to improve despite dumbshit sheep like you doing their best to keep them being lazy and mediocre. Maybe when they actually have to try to feed themselves content will improve.

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>>13967167
This is why THEY hate the numbers, but numbers do not lie.

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>>13973547
Now this is copium.

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>>13974649
We get it you hate fun.
Don't worry, HoloEN is locked in its dungeon and none of them will be allowed to come out.
Only HoloJP and HoloID are allowed to interact with others.

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>>13974173
They did. SC has been down lately due to shit tons of merch. That WS collab drained a significant portion of the SC.

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another /#/ containment breach, report and ignore.

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>>13967167
Pretty eyeopening to see the lowest earner on this spreadsheet is "only" making $6k a month in donations.

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>>13974173
Marine is not earning much SC ever since she dropped some merch. She used to get around $70k - $100k+ each month. Other Holopros that 'spams' merch are also affected in a similar manner.

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>>13974886
What rules does it break

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>>13975098
Marine barely streamed last month.

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>>13975098
Pretty much everyone is making less due to lockdowns going away and more competition. Stop blaming this on merch.

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>>13975352
>Marine barely streamed last month
19 streams in 30 days, not counting of course the many offcollabs she does on other channels. Seems like a pretty active month if you asked me.

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>>13973547
>these cheap ass plushies are robbing holos of hundreds of thousands of sc money
Imagine believing this lmao. Not to mention there was no merch released for Council and they are doing bad in sc as well. Barely above Ethyria despite having one more member.

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>>13975443
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCCzUftO8KOVkV4wQG1vkUvg/videos
She's making pretty much the same amount of sc in her individual videos. Previous months were higher because they were packed with special events, birthdays, etc.

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>>13975533
>cheap merch
its not some vp or acrylic shit lol. Now heres a simple math for you anon
just 2000 units sold x 36.25 USD = 72.500 USD, not counting the transport fees

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>>13975898
Those cheap plushies were released in AUGUST. They shouldn't have any effect on sc money by now. August and September sc was higher than October or November. The trend is clearly downwards regardless of merch sales. Now stop coping.

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>>13976111
i'm about to release cum from my balls into your ass

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>>13967323
he writes the lore too

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Holobronies are trying to slide this with their cope threads

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>>13973547
This time last year it was nijifags coping with
>muh merch

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>>13967167
>worrying about how much money millionaires are making

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>>13974849
Seems like Omega is scared of showing USA-centric audiences something different from their usual culture, despite part of the success of Holo and Vtubers as a whole is to be rooted in weeb.
Meanwhile, ID collabs with holostars (a MALE in my HoloEN collab????) and indies.
I mean, people appreciate this things: the reputation boost of being friendly to the community is part of the success of Coco.
I wonder when is he gonna give them more freedom?

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>>13967797
That's a whole lot of cope just to say HoloEN is reclining.

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>>13980546
People here discovering "Novelty" concept for the first time.
Growth is going to stop at some plateau until the next viral thing happening.
Also, i guess youtube algorithm wasn't yet tuned for that kind of content.

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>>13980213
After more than a year and the talents complaining about it? Most likely not until he's fired. Maybe if Holox keeps the momentum and crush Concil's numbers harder Cover will think about HoloEN's management.

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>>13980902
HololiveEN is novelty.
None of them are particularly entertaining and without leeching off HoloJP the actual streaming branch they are worthless.
NijiEN picked up several successful indies that have already proven they can entertain an audience.

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the holoEN - nijiEN two-timing period has started

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>>13981219
They are. The problem is the management.

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>>13981219
It's not really a novelty, Hololive EN still has a ton of support. Even Sanner despite her seemingly broken subcount ends up having a ton of VOD views, so it can't be a fad. Especially not with how many viewers they get during events.
Council though just does not seem to be growing fast anymore, maybe because Cover's EN management fumbled the ball and didn't think to add more people quickly when Myth was starting to take off. They could've really used that when most of the branch doesn't speak JP and they aren't able to collab with tons of people unless its someone like Trash Taste. But the branch was in a weird spot to where they didn't seem to get as much love or resources from the main company as JP.

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>>13983321
>maybe because Cover's EN management fumbled the ball and didn't think to add more people quickly when Myth was starting to take off
Honestly, this may be it. Hololive stalled too long for their Gen2 auditions, and lost potential talents to other EN agencies. The ones who waited for Gen2 auditions (including council themselves) are most definite clout chasers, as exhibited by the (lack of) work ethic of almost all of the council.

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>>13967167
Deserved, EN shouldn't have been a thing in the first place.

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>>13967167
JESUS HOLOLIVEEN RECLINE IS REAL

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>>13981877
Most people who actually check NijiEN stop caring about HoloEN.

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>>13967599
Spotted the salty teamate.
Sorry your menhera oshi is killing her NUMBERS.

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>>13967251
This kek

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>>13984674
There wasn't any other agencies at the time of auditions, since we do know Finana applied for Holo En Gen 2, so anyone of her Niji wave and subsequent waves would have had a chance to apply for Holo En Gen 2. Instead the rrat is the Holo En management already knew who they were going to hire, and you might have had 1-2 of Council that actually were audition hires, with the rest being nepotism hires who knew someone in management or one of the existing Holo Myth talents.

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>>13981009
>he's fired
Japanese companies don't fire their employees unless it is for a really legit reason.

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>>13984674
>Hololive stalled too long for their Gen2 auditions, and lost potential talents to other EN agencies

Thank god. Imagine Selen or Finana forced to play Minecrap every week and banned from swearing.

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>>13989229
Anyone from NijiEN1+2 did not apply for HoloEN2, because the HoloEN2 auditions happened after the NijiEN1+2 candidates were already chosen. Finana's whole "Holo EN finalist" touting was from the HoloEN1 auditions.
Also, there were many other EN agencies that were around before the HoloEN2 auditions, some with multiple waves already, so some EN talents already went to those.