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13957758 No.13957758 [Reply] [Original]

Is there a single good reason to say you "don't care" about numbers?
Your oshi certainly cares about them. Denying the fact that her popularity and numbers are directly responsible for putting her food on the table and the importance of her livelihood is insulting.
Insulting a chuuba for numberfagging is like telling a jannie to work for free.
Saying "who cares about numbers" is like saying "who cares if my oshi can earn a living"?
It's like saying "who cares if my oshi's hard work goes unrecognized and discourages her from creating the content she wants"?
If you care about your oshi, you should care about her numbers, period.
Because she cares about them a lot more than you think, and if you don't care about her needs and wants, she isn't your oshi.

>> No.13957845

I care about my oshi's number for the reasons you said.
What I don't care is to pit a bunch of vtuber numbers against each other like I win something out of it if x vtuber has the bigger number compared to y.

>> No.13957894

>>13957758
If my oshi is making enough each month to live happy why should I give a shit about numbers?

>> No.13957929

If your oshi has over 100 live viewers, you shouldn't care about numbers.

>> No.13957973

>>13957758
Yeah but you don't have to be autistic numbers like half the board is. They matter in certain regards, in others they don't.

>> No.13957989

>>13957758
My oshi can numberfag as much as she wants, I just don't want to see you fags here do it.

>> No.13957995

>>13957758
You fucking idiot, no one with 1000 viewers has to worry about their livelyhood

>> No.13958148

>>13957758
Unlike her, it's not my job to care.
The only reason I do care is because it makes me happy to see her happy, unlike some of the faggots here who actually don't care about the vtubers and just use numbers to fling shit at each other.

>> No.13958221

as long as her company isn't at risk of going bankrupt
i used to saviorfag her genmates by playing their streams in the background

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13958245

I only care about the order of numbers in my post. Check em.

>> No.13958253

numbers are like money, communistchama.
money is the means to an end. thats why corpos and successful people cherish what money means, same thing for numberchads. but notice the most successful chuubas play a variety of games and have lots of fun

>> No.13958289

My oshi is too successful to care about numbers

>> No.13958379

>>13957845
This, fpbp

>> No.13958509

>>13957758
Most Holos are beyond the point where numbers actually matter for improving their quality of life. Functionally, there isn't much of a difference between being the #1 SC'd person and the 5th, at that point it's just a matter of pride. Same thing with views and subs.

>> No.13958637

My oshi wants lower numbers because of her severe impostor syndrome.

>> No.13958680

>>13957845
/thread

you people just missed the point, it's not that we hate the numbers, we hate the people who brought up the numbers

>> No.13958708
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>>13957758
>Is there a single good reason to say you "don't care" about numbers?
Donations >>> numbers and more views don't always translate to an equal increase.

Kiara is on average the lowest viewed myth but 1st or 2nd most donated to. If you care about food on the table or other crap then you should be more concerned with donations. Views aren't that great a way to make money, donations and sponsorships are where it is at. And to return to Kiara, her niche with RPGs despite not being popular has earned her an in with Bamco and even got Atlus games company to let her stream.

>> No.13958711

>>13957845
/thread

>> No.13959088

>>13957758
It really depends on how my oshi reacts to numbers anons.
You see, my oshi sabotaged herself on purpose because she doesn't want to have 20k people at a time, that's not where she's comfortable... She wants people tk watch her short videos and listen to her songs that's for sure, she wants people to subscribe for her that's for sure as well.
But to have 20k ccv floor or 30k...etc, she's just not comfortable with that.
My oshi takes breaks whenever her viewers get too high to filter out the tourists and I rate her so much for that, because she cares about what her fans say and wants to read her chat.
As for money, she's an ancient holo with a rich family so that doesn't really matter for her, she appreciates it but doesn't care whether you send or not.

>> No.13959465

>>13957758
I honestly can not imagine a sadder fate than being financially dependent on dicking around on the internet. Maybe this is just because I watch smaller creators, but I would honestly rather that they streamed less and had an actual job rather than being reliant on the chimpanzees that inhabit this site and Twitter.

>> No.13959969

>Is there a single good reason to say you "don't care" about numbers?
>Your oshi certainly cares about them.
it's not my job to care about her numbers, it's hers. I only have to worry about watching her

>> No.13960090

>>13957758
Because you touch yourself at night, faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOPmdqaz444

Hell, I watch Beatani. Numbers ain't shit.

>> No.13960165

>>13957758
The central premise of your argument is the vtubing is a job, but there are many vtubers who do it just as a hobby. The reason this did not occur to you is because you are most likely an ignorant and low power level ironic weeaboo who only watches Hololive or Nijisanji.

>> No.13960192

>>13957758
somebody's having a bad time, heh

>> No.13960297

>>13960165
You realize there are Holosanji chuubas who do it as a hobby? Like Noel, or Lize. Not to say that OP isn't a retard

>> No.13960333

Well, my oshi is deliberately sabotaging herself to lower her subs and viewers count. That counts as caring about number, I guess?

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>>13957758
Only applies to those that have vtubing as their main source of income and have no skills/experience outside of it:

>> No.13960559

>>13957845
/thread

>> No.13960737

>>13957758
Fuck off. My oshi is graduating because her numbers aren’t enough to live off. You know why? She told us why. She doesn’t want the numbers. She doesn’t want a million people chat that can only repeat the most basic memes to get any attention. She doesn’t want to stream to a wall of a hundred thousand faceless eyes. She wants to interact with her fans in a real way.
That’s why she doesn’t do collabs. Collabs, she said, are only to grow your numbers - but she couldn’t talk to her fans while collabing, only the other chuuba. So she didn’t do that.

I used to care, but now I can’t. I can’t care about numbers because my oshi cares more about me than she cares about them. And one day she’ll be back steaming to twenty people for fun and we’ll be happy like that.

>> No.13961253

>>13960737
Who's your oshi, and how does graduating help her achieve what you mentioned? Is she just going to be an independent who can then do what she wants, how she wants, with no pressure?

>> No.13961348

Numbers are not a barometer of quality. I don't watch a stream because 20k other people are watching, I watch it because I find the steamer entertaining.

>> No.13961488

>>13961253
Reading comprehension nigger.

He's saying she can't live off vtubing. So she's fucking off from corpo, getting a dead end job, and hopefully for that anon, going indie as a hobby.

世知辛い

>> No.13961851

>>13961253
Luca Polka is quitting her tiny corpo to study and get a real job and with a lot of luck she might come back as an indie in three or so years.

She could have kept being a vtuber had she grown her channel to big numbers, but decided against it. In her own words: A channel with numbers is pointless.

>>13961488
Thank you.

>> No.13962210

>>13957758
>Is there a single good reason to say you "don't care" about numbers?

I dont need a reason to not give a fuck about them

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>>13957758
I think my oshi is starting to care more about numbers than she used to. Streamer mental health is a tricky subject.
Anyway, she's pledged to burn minecraft villagers alive for every sub until the 12th of december, can you drop a sub please?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGajPt6XsqEhzeNnyzQJ_tQ

>> No.13963452

>>13963203
sure, but im not watching her though

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>>13957758
>Is there a single good reason to say you "don't care" about numbers?
numbers are only good when they are big, when they are not it only causes stress.
And stress is the number one reason for the most common/variety of diseases, it also makes you an unhappy faggot.
That's why is better to not care about numbers, nothing good comes from only caring about numbers...

>> No.13963626

>>13963452
Thanks, that's perfectly fine. It's just the numbers game.
She has a decent number of live viewers for her amount of sub, nothing wrong with a few ghost subs.

>> No.13963692

>>13957845
This. I never see numberfags being supportive and happy for their oshi's growth. I only see numberfags pitting the numbers of vtubers they never actually watch like some shitty cockfight, watching out stats of "peak live viewers" or "superchat earning" and of course company tribalfagging. How are those "caring about numbers because your oshi cares about it"?

>> No.13964952

>>13957758
Not being a retarded faggot, for starters. become An Hero.

>> No.13967401

>>13957758
It's their job to care

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