/vsj+/ - VShojo+ General

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I Was Never Going to Have A Reason to Use This Image Anyway Edition

Welcome to VShojo+! A thread to discuss VShojo, and any vtubers frequently associated with them.

Today was strange. Mouse streamed. It was very illuminating. Have a good night everybody! Keep things comfy. Ignore bait. Be excellent to your fellow anon.

VShojo is:
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/veibae

Previous thread: >>13815841

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first for cat

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pink cat seductive

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>Mouse won't delete the vod
Based. Fuck dramaniggers, don't give them more views.

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>>13825382
think she was just talking about the tweet, anon

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I love my western horse

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Reminder that Basedgod loves the pink cat.

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>>13825379
>>13825383

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>>13825443
>>13825451
Based

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>>13825451
That looks more like Nyan loves BasedGod, not the other way around.

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Who is so dense as to not understand the danger at this point? Is their skull made of lead?

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>>13825451
TYBT

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SAY STAFE GUYS.

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>>13825505
Some people think that things on the internet never have repercussions in real life.

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wtf i'm a frogfag now?

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>>13825495
plot twist, nyan is based god

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>>13825495
https://twitter.com/LILBTHEBASEDGOD/status/1465002320492580868?t=FirSgrH8EWkJA1Iv74hMvg&s=19

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>>13825451
TYBG

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Second very NSFW page at the tweet. https://twitter.com/AtomicRadiatio2/status/1465282465183027204

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>>13825536
Yeah, it only takes one imbecile who thinks all of this is not just a game of anonymous chucklefucks thumping chests for it to become dangerous.

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>>13825505
We live in a time where people post every single little detail of their lives to social media and then get surprised when they get robbed when going on vacation.

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like i said last time, it sounds like it was bigger than he thought. he was played and it did tip managements hand into a bigger investigation. fuck those bad actors involved.

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>>13825563
If I open this tweet and it isn't BasedGod saying he loves pink cat, I will be very disappointed in you.

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I want to give this cat a very warm hug
and also drink her piss but I can set aside my gross fetishes for a bit

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TLDR management played it too safe and fucked literally everything by doing so. That’s all we need to know

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>>13825598
>people post every single little detail of their lives
the problem is that even if YOU don't post anything about your life, people in your surrounding will
happened to me, might've been dangerous

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>>13825563
Why am I only seeing about this now. You failed /vsj/

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>>13825505
I am.
If she was still talking about regular stuff, why can't she just say "doxxing + swatting"?
What the hell is that secret super-dangerous harassment type that she is prohibited to even name without any other details?

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>>13825694
That's why I just don't have anyone around me, easy

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>>13825632
Update, I am disappointed, but Nyan did like the tweet.

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The problem Vshojo has as a company now is that, despite Mousey dunking publicly on their fuck ups, the girls are also all very close to each other other than Hime so they can't silence her without losing everybody. She's in a pretty safe spot.

The company themselves are also relatively safe I guess because people LOVE the girls and as long as they're there, Vshojo is going to stay alive.

What this MIGHT affect is new members who might not want to join after what Mousey's revealed and, until Vshojo sorts their shit out, they might not be able to get anybody new on board. Hell, it's possible that Snuffy and Haruka would've joined before now if it wasn't for this.

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>VShojo Minecraft addition was actually coping with trauma

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>>13825681
the lesson here, don't treat grown retards with kid gloves and talk to the relevant people involved

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>>13825716
It's shit you, and the rest of us, don't need to know about.

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>>13825681
>TLDR management played it too safe and fucked literally everything by doing so. That’s all we need to know
aren't you forgetting about someone who created this whole ordeal?

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>>13825698
because you are blind, blindchama

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Anyway schedule time. Currently live:

Mouse - I think literally everyone in this thread is watching this. No summary needed. https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Bao - What are you doing? Mouse is live. Bao's just playing Genshin. https://www.twitch.tv/baoo

For more distant +'s you shouldn't be watching because I mean come on, Mouse is live, there's Brett who's playing FF14 in pngtuber form, Honey Goblin who's doing art with a hand overlay like Froot's, and Lord Commander Chaos who's playing LoL with Froot.

As for tomorrow?

Mouse - Sponsored Genshin stream. That's all we know here.
Nyan? - Probably. Hopefully. She'd better. Please
Zen? - She said a technician would be by on Tuesday to look into her internet issues. I doubt it, but maybe.

Vei's taking the week, Froot's an enigma, Silver's usually off Tuesdays, Hime's probably still dead, and Mel will one day release a new schedule.

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>>13825739
she just liked it lol i posted that link the in the last thread for the first time she's /here/ lol

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>>13825716
Use your brain and think about why it might be dangerous.

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>>13825681
We knew that already. We knew they wanted to keep this quiet because any discussion of it would empower the bad actors.

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>>13825799
given the circumstances, no

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>>13825738
>easy
no, not really

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>>13825716
Anon, it probably goes beyond them and to their family members. Why call attention to it

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MY OSHI GRADUATED LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>13825826
It got posted on her discord too, she probably saw it there

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>>13825765
If things really are bad enough that they wouldn't join, one of the girls would have told her privately. On the flip side, if things aren't that bad that will be communicated behind the scenes as well.
This whole drama started because people forgot about communicating privately, and I guarantee that there are a lot of conversations happening behind the scenes right now

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Happy graduation day mousey! She growed up so fast

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it sounds like she was bigger than someone thought and that person in releasing what they did fucked up with them dealing with the bigger thing and was played.

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>>13825869
Mouse picked up huge YouTube contract. Leaving twitch for big bucks.

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>next arc of this drama, vshojo firing all their talents one by one
yay

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>>13825621
>he was played
He was, but he was also straight up fucking told he was being played and ignored it. Management could have done better, but by every metric this is still almost entirely Nux's fuckup.

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Rehashing old arguments. Let's move on.

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>>13825935
>Everyone is fired
>Except Hime.

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Nyan if you're reading this I love you

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>>13825917

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>>13825935
Who cares? They own all their shit. They'd keep streaming.

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yeah unlike the newfags in this thread, I've been around long enough to know people always pretend they are in danger for clout on the internet. not buying it at all

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>>13825967
kek

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>>13825929
Whoever that anon who was saying there's no good VSJ porn the other day getting blown the fuck out.

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I can’t believe they murdered nux and replaced him with a pink cat clone.

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I feel bad for all the girls
Especially Nyan
It's just fucked what the internet has done to her honestly

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>>13826016
cool story bro

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>>13825967
They just forget she's there. Still on payroll in 2087.

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>>13826053
Report and ignore, please.

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>>13826004
Yeah, Mousey saying "don't make me graduate" is just a joke, always has been

VShojo doesn't have that power. They were indies before and they can be indies again.

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>>13825916
my thoughts exactly, but didn't want to post so it wouldn't turn into a bidding contest

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>>13825301
faggot, started it early we could've had 1499 easily.

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>>13825859
Yeah, that's obvious. My point is why can't she just say "VSJ and their close ones were at risk of doxxing and swatting" (if that's the case). Everybody will understand this and the risks of this easily.
What the hell was that cryptic "there was some harassment to some people, can't say anything else" stuff? That drew even more attention to this instead of less, don't you think?

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>>13826033
Likes mouses back

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>>13826105
What part of on going investigation is no sinking into your lead skill?

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>>13826042
She's been getting fucked royally for most of her life, sadly. As much as she's supremely fucked up over the years, she never deserved it anywhere near as bad as she's had it.

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>>13826104
>started it early
>thread's gone
Anon I think you're insane

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>>13826105
You're just being nosy. Us not having an idea what it is is exactly the point.
If even Nux understood the reasons for it and accepted it then it has to be legit.

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I hope none of the other members are upset at Mel. she has been thrown under the bus the most on Twitter

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>>13826105
More attention was only drawn to it because Nux is borderline illiterate and stupid enough to post a video bragging about it.

But seriously think for a second why someone wouldn't want to draw attention to an attempt to discover and publish their private information (aka dox them).

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>>13825598
The problem for streamers isn't that people want to know when they're gone, but when they are live. They want to send SWAT teams to their house with no-knock entry or show up with flowers expecting sex or a murder suicide. That's why they have the anime face.

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SHICKEN

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Okay, party time is over, everyone go home.
Except you, Nyan. You're /here/ forever.

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>>13826033
I'm sure that anon is malding really hard at people posting good porn

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>>13826267
Mouse explained Melody wasn't even present for the group dm, she started the group chat for them and had to leave for a patreon thing, the time stamps line up with her being busy with that. So hopefully that cleared it up.

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>>13826105
What do you want her to say “My sister got sent an ied because I stream for a company people hate let’s goooo”. There’s something way bigger than doxx swat going on to at least one and they want to actually catch the people involved.

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>>13825301
My parents said their computer is full of malware. I told them I'd rather it was full of MELware. They loved it.

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>nux drama
>no streams
>cope with sports
>all my teams lose
>go to job interview
>get btfo
>come home
>finally mouse stream
>it's sad
>still no pink cat
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>13826378
Froot and Snuffy streamed this morning.

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>>13826378
you'll be glad to find out a certain other pink cat also streamed earlier today

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>>13826366

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>>13826378
i just want to see celibate man kill john darksouls

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>>13826288
Yes and I was pointing out how some people are really fucking stupid about personal information and that's why they don't understand why its an issue for some people to be doxxed.

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>>13826378

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>>13826378
Pull the trigger snuffy! End me!

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>>13826378
>not witnessing the greatest snuffy stream in history
I feel sorry for you.

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>>13826331
>the time stamps line up with her being busy with that
Not just that, I had an idea since the beginning she might've been there just to introduce Nux because she knew him the best. Turns out she didn't even stay which makes sense (you wouldn't want to be a third wheel).

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>>13826105
>doxxing and swatting
You only bring more attention to it when you talk about it. Time and time again this has been proved right.

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>>13826492
So he just threw Mel under the bus, hoping that no one would put two and two together?

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>>13826288

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>>13826288
>That's why they have the anime face
sigh, how ironic that idea turned out to be

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>>13826551
Everyone keeps assuming he does these things on purpose. He's just a fucking retard.

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>>13826551
Considering Mel's the one who's completely ignored him since then, might be why she's still pissed.

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>>13826551
yup, froot DMs where she asked him to take it down show him lying about mel's approval too iirc. though he may have just said "yeah she was totally there!" so it was a half truth

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>>13826591
>I'm aware

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>>13826591

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>>13826287
I was wondering if the danger was something different, since she didn't just simply say "dox". Because I see no reason not to say "we were afraid of dox" for her in this situation - other than if the danger wasn't dox. She literally chose to answer the question from the dono "what type of danger from Nux's vid girls were in?" by herself with that vague and criptic stuff. That's the opposite of "not wanting to draw attention to the subject".
But fuck it, I don't want to repeat myself for the 3rd time, since there's also a bunch of brainless simps in this thread who somehow understood my question as "I don't get the dangers of dox hurr-durr".

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>>13826378
What teams

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MOUSE IS SINGING!

SORT OF!

I REPEAT MOUSE IS ... oh you're all watching already anyway.

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libera me from hell doko?

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>>13826685
Hello you again. Browns and tOSU
I'm in pain

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>it's not the gachi version

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>>13826769
You only have yourself to blame.

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>>13826692
Forget dramamouse, zoomer whale has another ad going.

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>>13826769
At least the browns didn’t get their back blown out by the bengals like Pitt lol

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>>13826845
I'm aware

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>>13826846
What’s she shilling this time?

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>>13826669
Judging by earlier posts, I don't know the full extent but people have gone absolutely mental with Nyan.
So for her, and anyone closely associated with her (all the girls), doxxing is a big fucking problem.
Getting doxxed is only the start.

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>>13826551
>So he just threw Mel under the bus, hoping that no one would put two and two together?
bruh

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>>13826846
man, flying across the country and back daily to suck senz's dick irl must be pretty expensive

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>Mouse supports unity
>Tells dramafags to btfo
MY chuuba

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>>13826769
>browns
That’s perpetual sadness
>osu
Ohio sucks

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>>13826919
'ate drama
'ate management incompetence
'ate miscommunication
Love Mousey
Simple as.

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>>13826916
Asian girls love their below average white men.

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>>13826978
American football is now completely on topic, thanks to Pink Cat

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>>13826989
Then where's mine?

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>>13825433
Accurate, Vei is bottom heavy.

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>>13826989
Isn't Senz also an asian?

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>>13826989
Bruh I'm as below average as it gets, where my slant puss at?

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>>13827022
Blessed be Pink Cat. Pink Cat good.

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>>13827022
pink cat... doshite...

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Mousey singing this for Nyan now, for sure.

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>>13827022
Who’s pink cat’s team? Seahawks and Washington?

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I wonder why Haruka isn't VIP'd on Mouse's channel. Did they have a falling out?

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>>13826669
She was referring to the nyanners Dox back in march and may. I don't know when the swatting happened. She slipped out a few times and said nyan but add and all my friends.

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Rosedoodle and Lumi collabing tomorrow, for your ++ knowledge needs.

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Damn mousey is pretty good at guitar

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Who would have thought that after all is said and done, Silver would be the only vshojo not kneeling.

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>>13827171
rratmaster, your services are not needed right now

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>>13825549
There are two types of people in the world, frogfags and people who haven't heard Saruei's voice.

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>>13827171
low effort rrat, but I appreciate your concern.

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>>13827168
Pink Cat doesn't actually know football.

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>>13827168
Someone said she's a Lions fan. It's probably why she's not streaming as often.

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>>13827249
Me. Kinda. I thought that Silver, Vei, and Nyan would never do it.

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>>13827249
NEVER KNEEL

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>>13827284
>lions
Oh man I feel bad for her

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>>13827249
Vei is the one I never expected.

rrat: all the typing Mousey's doing is rallying everyone together. Nux was a test run, with his hidden approval. Next target is unionising against management to make shit better.

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>>13827369
She gets off on the humiliation of being a lions fan.

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>>13827376
>all the typing Mousey's doing
I just noticed she tweeted this while streaming kek
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1465522908470693889?s=20

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>>13827376
r/relationshipadvice: My vtubers (28F, 25F, 27F) have unionized

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>>13827249
>>13827293
As tough and stubborn as Vei and Nyan are, they also have their limits.

Silver's not a wolf for no reason. She'll stand her ground and protect her pack no matter what.
She's the sweetest and most affectionate one of the bunch but there's a strength hidden underneath that you can't fuck with.

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>>13827376
no one ever listens to my rrat that Vei is completely normal, demure and nonconfrontational and professional when she's not doing her brat schtick onstream. BUT IT'S FUCKING TRUE.
people are like, "SHE DID NOT WRITE THAT HERSELF" when it's full of Vei-like weird punctuation and grammar.

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>>13827428
Connor repeating that meme over and over and over got to her

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>>13827428
>t. someone not watching her stream

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>>13827501
Mouse confirmed that they all did it themselves today at least. Not that I ever believed they didn't but I had seen some people rrat that one up.

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>>13827249
If you want Silver to bend the knee, she'll need to borrow your kneecaps.

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>>13827418
Then why isn’t she a browns fan? Also we need Vei and the others to watch football

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I miss her bros... She was supposed to stream today. But I understand she might be anxious after hearing mouse talk about it.
I just want to turn into huge fluffy teddy bear and hug her, and tell her everything's going to be alright. She might've made some mistakes in her life but that's everyone and she doesn't deserve any of this. Why are people so hateful :(

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I love Mouse's rendition of this song

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>>13827284
>>13827369
The Michigan Wolverines just beat Ohio State in a huge rivalry game. Like first time in a decade. Maybe she's a fan of them? Though really, I doubt she's that into football in reality.

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>>13827614
>low quality bait

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>>13827540
Considering how fucking savagely she ripped into management, it'd be hard to deny that she wasn't telling the truth about that too. Hell, she went after multiple rrats like a goddamn Predator.

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>>13827614
She's broken. She knows that she was the catalyst for the end of vshojo.

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>>13827501
>my rrat
Anyone watching Vei long enough/paying enough attention can tell.
She's depressed, anxious and fragile. She puts on a tough act because she wants to be that strong, but there are cracks in the wall.

I mean damn, she's taking the whole week off and frequently takes breaks for her mental health. She gets a couple Bad Thoughts and it's over.

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>>13827614
She just need rest after murdering a small group of roofers.

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>>13827418
Being popular must be the worst thing for Nyan. She tries to pull some weird shit for chat to dunk on and feed her fetish, but instead she gets flooded with love and support for the weird shit that she was only pretending to like to get shit on. It must frustrate her to no end.

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I hope the stream is over soon as the vod wont survive im backing in up but i need sleep.

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>>13826915
>The one in the porn industry is best friends with the Jew.

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>>13827630
I have no idea who even did the original, nor do I care. This version is peak.

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>>13827690
anon she has an embarassment fetish, not humiliation
chat can be supportive, won't change the fact that she's embarassed

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>pink cat good

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>pink cat good
I NEED A REDPILL TO BELIEVE YOU MOUSE AIIIEEEEEE

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>pink cat gud

holy fuck shes /here/

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>>13827648
I wasn't baiting, rudefag

[Anonymous No.]

Nyan on top cover to assert her support.

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>>13827604
Vei only watches one ball.

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>>13827761
Only divegrass can redeem our girls now.

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>>13827678
>She puts on a tough act
i would go further and say it's an almost memelike performance, not unlike Zen constantly cursing out Fatman and other members of her chat, when it's obvious she is a teddy bear deep inside and is just messing around.

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>>13827636
She should be it’s fun
https://youtu.be/Q9et1-B3xGc
https://youtu.be/9N3aONa86x8

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>>13827787
Her brother only has one ball?

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PINK CAT GOOD

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>>13827742

like johnny cash with "hurt"

i hope someone clips it so a certain pink kitty can hear it.

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>>13827735
>Jew got his friends crucified for some silver

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>>13827249
she wasn't in the center of it tho

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>>13827761
>>13827770
>>13827779
do you really think that's a 4chan meme? It was from her Discord

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>>13827834
She's watching, anon.

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>>13827843

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>>13826915
What does this prove? Those are all old tweets.

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>>13827848
it's not
fucking newfag

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4chan is the reddit and discord testing grounds without having to worry about your username being attached

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>>13827753
If everyone in the room says it's perfectly okay, there's nothing to be embarrassed about. It's a literal buzz kill raining sunshine and rainbows on Nyan's scuff parade.

You'll see come Jan 18. Instead of confused onlookers whispering about the unfolding train wreck in front of them, it'll be full of love and degenerate support and Nyan will break her desk in a fit of rage.

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>>13827848
I'm pretty sure a hundred different people came up with this meme on their own. It's just a corrupted Trump meme.

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>>13827848
It's from "pink cat bad," which was used to mock schizos who felt personally betrayed by Nyan for abandoning ungrateful manchildren on 4chan to make money playing video games and chatting with her friends.

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>>13827974
Embarrassment can be a self fed loop, and Nyan is a goddamn perpetual loop.

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>>13827974
>If everyone in the room says it's perfectly okay, there's nothing to be embarrassed about.
that is not how embarrassment works.

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>>13827974
Is it true that Nyanners is no longer allowed in Sweden because of her violence against desks?

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I fucking love Mousey anons...

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>>13827913
>>13827735
>best friends
>what does that proove
you fucks, those are the replies to the tweets the idiot deleted because melody replied to them
it was supposed to support the idea he threw her under the bus

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>>13827974
What is the significance of Jan 18 apart from that one video?

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OMG SHE SAID IT


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>>13825360
ooba booba

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Pink Cat good originated with George Carlin in his magnum opus "You Are All Diseased". Newfags.

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>>13827826
This is one of the best art of her, I've never found the source

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>>13828099
What

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>>13827801
The thing is the girls occasionally talk about how Vei doesn't take any shit, she's so strong, etc.
Zen is clearly bantering with her chat and friends, everyone knows she's actually a sweetheart and she'll even let it out on occasion.
With Vei I think it's definitely about her wanting to be tougher than she is.
Could be a defense/coping mechanism, could be that she's at a point where her pain fuels her strength. Either way it is genuine, but it's also an act, if that makes sense.

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>>13828072
I probably shouldn't bother replying to you, but how is that throwing her under the bus? He deleted a lot of his old tweets, not just those. The bus throwing was him exposing Mel was in the call which is what Mouse was talking about and claiming that he had permission from VShojo including one of their talents. Mouse flat out said he was full of shit on that.

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Whelp, if there's one thing to take away from all this, the company will always do what it can to protect itself, even pitting its own talent against other creators before it admits fault for anything

[Anonymous No.]

If you want to help a deeply depressed /vsj+/ juicer get out of crippling debt and find his way out of the shadows and into the light. You can buy this NeonBeat sticker here: https://freshtango.us/collections/secrets/products/secret-succubus-flor-sticker

[Anonymous No.]

>>13827664
what did she say about the management?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828225
I love his stream titles

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828186
I'm also retarded. Glad I can find another like-minded person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13827826
>>13828152
https://twitter.com/100hituzi/status/1362404122008252417

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828169
I don't remember what was she talking about, but it was one of those situations where no one likes someone's behaviour but no one calls them out either, and then she said
>Dude why do I have to be the one talking about it. Everyone always expects me to be the first one.
I wish I saved that clip because there's no way I'm finding it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828273
thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828225
too busy getting myself into crippling debt sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828244
That they have massive penises and if anyone says anything bad about them then they'll learn why he's called gunrun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828095
Nyan is setting up a talent show and is inviting friends and family to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828244
not that much, anon is coping and projecting
although the rest of his post is right

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828287
Was it when she was talking about Nux derailing other people's streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828287
Not sure if it's the same clip but she said something similar when she was talking about Nux's "donate to streamer and humiliate them for content" shtick many moons ago
About how so many people told her how uncomfortable they were with it, but none of them felt they could say anything, so she's saying it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13825301
Somebody tell mousy to stop feeding the trolls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828393
maybe, although I wasn't too much into vsj back then so I was missing some context
>>13828439
>many people told her how uncomfortable they were with it, but none of them felt they could say anything, so she's saying it
this sounds like it

[Anonymous No.]

Mousey being able to sing every song on her playlist without lyrics is amazing to me. How does she do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828526
Well, she fumbles Odo every single time

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828526
>How does she do it
practice? like everything in life?

[Anonymous No.]

Good lord, I didn't know she could sing like a black woman.

[Anonymous No.]

Is she crying? I have no goslings to post, but I am

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828439
Vei definitely has a feisty and honest streak that's not a performance, that's true.
But that's not the same as being a stubborn retard who refuses to apologize.
So what I don't get is why people seem shocked she "caved" and was "forced" to apologize.
yes, she gets heated and calls people out, but she's also super professional when she needs to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828501
Somebody tell your mom to stop sucking my cock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828570
A little, yes. She has got emotional with this song before, but not quite this much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828568
Mousey definitely got that soul in her voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828570

[Anonymous No.]

its always adorable listening to mouse cry herself through a song

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828582
are you the fuckin Taliban? i can't tell her what to do. my mom is a grown woman and this is a free country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828570
I'm feeling this way as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828573
Honestly I can see Vei only really apologizing if she was doing it for someone else's sake. She's very much willing to do things she doesn't want to do for the sake of her friends and that's been my assumption from the moment she tweeted that. Whether it was Nyan or Mouse or Mel or all of them I don't fucking know, but she's been the most open about hating Nux and I have no doubt she wouldn't do it if she weren't doing it for someone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828582
>Somebody tell your mom to stop sucking my cock.
you okay anon? that sounds awful

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828568
she has incredible range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828647
Or if she were getting something out of it.

All I'm saying is don't be surprised if in 2 weeks we get a Nux video about THE MOST BASED VTUBER IN THE WEST and he just spends 20 minutes talking about how great Vei is to his 2 million subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828647
but that's where maturity comes in. people don't expect her to be mature, but she totally can be. A mature person can apologize even to someone they can't stand, if it's for the greater good, and if what they was actually a mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828647
why are people in the internet this fucking amazing Psychiatrists/Psychologists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13825716
probably some members got raped

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828693
>2 million subs
How the fuck does he have 2 million subs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828741
>dramafag

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828708
Oh yeah definitely. I just meant it as more people saying her strength was putting on an act when Nyan and Mouse have both gone on about how much they look up to Vei and her ability to cut straight through shit and just say what she means. It's how we already knew that she hated Nux lol.

[Anonymous No.]

I miss her already

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828741
>How the fuck does he have 2 million subs?
he is kinda funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828741
youtube subs, dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>13825967
Hime is management

[Anonymous No.]

VEIBAE IN DA FUCKIN HOUSE
(in mouse's chat, at 5:15am UK time)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828582
I..what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828790
I'm aware, retard. I'm surprised his shit content got him 2 million subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828790
YT subs are equivalent to Twitch follows (a few people don't know this)

[Anonymous No.]

ESTA RATONCITA ESTA LLENA DE TALENTO LA ADORO DEMASIADO POR FAVOR TRATENLA CON CARIÑO AMOR COMPASION Y TERNURA

[Anonymous No.]

what's the category called when there's a girl who looks innocent to the outside world but actually a sexual deviant? I don't mean NTR/blackmail shit just consensual sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828827
Are you aware of the legend of PewDiePie and his shit content?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828741
From when he was an anituber. Most of them are dead subs and his views have been on the decline.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, I watch Mouse and often remember 'she was too powerful, so god debuffed her' joke, she just stood up for the whole team and is singing her heart away, respect

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828568
Educate yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzS8XM8TIk4
The nip bitches at VILLS would commit sudoku if they had to go up against Mousey at her best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828693

[Anonymous No.]

>>13826079
I mean graduation usually means ending up your public activities even for indies

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828884
thats called a catholic woman anon

[Anonymous No.]

SHe's doing it! Mouse is listening the SkaTune network cover of Snow Halation again!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828886
>4 months since a video hit 1 million
You weren't kidding, damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828886
That's the funny thing in all this, Nux isn't even all that big. His videos get 200-400k views. Good, but he's not some fucking giant youtuber. Like Connor is significantly bigger than him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828904
Mousey at her peak is fucking amazing, honestly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrzs7UU3qes

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828885
>Are you aware of the legend of PewDiePie and his shit content?
not liking PewDiePie so this is the reason you are a loser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13827249
Silver is a desperate people-pleaser, but she is not a doormat. She will sass you, and she will cuss you out. And she has damn good reason to hate Nux.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829030
i was pleasantly surprised to find out silver turned out to be the real mommabear of the group

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828884
gap moe but sexier

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829092
So THAT'S why she calls me papa. Thanks for helping me out, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828741
Why would Vei(a twitch) streamer care about nux's 2 million YouTube subs(most of them don't watch his videos)

[Anonymous No.]

Milfsey coming in 2022 confirmed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828948
Yes but nobody can "make" her graduate
At best VShojo can cut their contract but they can't make them stop vtubing or abandon their character/persona a la Coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829092
Haven't you seen Silver when she was guiding Mouse through Sea of Thieves or when she was personally helping Mel with FFXIV? Silver is 100% the mama bear of the group.

[Anonymous No.]

>What are you, an archivist?

[Anonymous No.]

>what are you, an archivist??
VODanon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829165
Cutting the contract with Mousey would absolutely mean losing the other girls too. They can't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829213

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828975
also on average for his twitch streams he gets like 800 viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829213
Just keep it to yourself for a month or 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829165
can you redpill me on coco did she get fired because she mentioned taiwan or something lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829280
wasn't planning on uploading at least for a while anyway, can't say the same for the other anons

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829278
Keep in mind that's still like top 1% of Twitch streamers for average viewership.

[Anonymous No.]

vshojo went easy on nux desu. imagine if mouse brought down the might of sykkuno and otv friends on him

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829315
She left on her own. Cover did a lot to try and keep her, including shutting down Hololive China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829381
>imagine if mouse brought down the might of sykkuno and otv friends on him
stuff that would never happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828766
it's too late anon, old vei is dead... they replaced her...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829400
>including shutting down Hololive China.
those poor china girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829381
They wouldn't give Nux the pleasure of providing him content by paying attention to him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829400
thanks for the lore i guess hololive/cover isnt as bad as i thought

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829275
I'm pretty sure Mel, Mouse, Silver, Zen, and possibly Nyan provided the starting capital for vshojo and are all co-owners. I don't think they could fire her

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829400
They also fucked up and looked incompetent. Seems it's a rite of passage for vtuber co's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829440

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829440
>"if i will have BFI will NEVER tell you"

[Anonymous No.]

>>13826042
nyanners mostly done it to herself by being terrible at let's call it PR, most of the shit that happened to her could have been avoided if she learned to keep her mouth shut and didn't provoke people you don't want to mess up with people didn't just decide to hate her for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829381
Lol, VShojo struggled, couldn't even release a consistent statement on the first try. Pretty sure management fucked up and didn't include the girls when talking to Nux then tried to cover after they got pissed off

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829280
>>13829328
One guy literally restreaming, clippers already making clips, you cannot make it any worse. Dramafags were going to be all over this and they were. Not at all a coincidence that Mouse has lost over 3k viewers since she stopped talking about the drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829510
Yes they did. Newfags literally do it for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

I stayed up late because I was certain she would delete the vod...
I need to wake up in 3 hours...

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Mouse self-graduating. Never forget.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829358
That means shit with the company we're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm glad I was here for Mousey's last stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828184
Man I'm pissed about this
I kept seeing everyone say Mel approved it even though nux didn't show any evidence of that, but now it turns out she wasn't even fucking there
He just dragged her right into the middle of it when she was barely involved, and now all the nuxfags are parroting that Mel is the backstabber
Fuck nux
I'm so mad

[Anonymous No.]

its been a ride

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine the level of troll if she actually stopped streaming for good.
IMAGINE

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829510
Nyanners has been a cunt since the day she felt she was too good for the group that propped her up to begin with.

>>13829622
should we only be so lucky

[Bait Judge Has Judged 123182935 Baits Since 2007 No.]

>>13829510
1/10 bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829510
>people didn't just decide to hate her for no reason.
are you new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829641
>Nyanners has been a cunt since the day she felt she was too good for the group that propped her up to begin with.
take your meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829617
Mel got the shortest end of the stick on this

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829622
She shuts down her PC, saying one final farewell to her viewers. She pulls down the covers on her bed, revealing the pure platinum bionic body she bought using her Twitch income, and walks out onto the balcony of her 5 story mansion. The last time she's seen by anybody is when she wraps her arms around her wife, Nyanners, and walks back into the bedroom. Some say she was never real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829641
>the group that propped her up to begin with
Oh yeah? Was pink cat making fat bank from all those 4channer donos when she was voicing loli doujins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829687
Or don't reply to obvious weak bait, dipshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13828741
even the dudes leaching from him (out of all people) have like 1.5k avg views just from eating leftovers from his ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829730
I wish I could get 1.5k for eating ass. Instead, I just get pink eye.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829712
>Or don't reply to obvious weak bait, dipshit.
same to you

[Anonymous No.]

look at the end of the day, after all the trials and tribulations the girls and the community has suffered, we can all, unanimously agree upon one key, and important thing in all of this mired myriad of misery
and that is Snuffy is better with big tits

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829617
If they weren't trying to get past the drama Mel can post screenshots of her excusing herself because she had other things to do

[Anonymous No.]

We should buy Mousey platinum teeth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829770
nta but I want in on this
no u

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829641
I'm a lolifag but even i think its dumb and petty for people to still be mad at her for leaving

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829524
do you need a reminder where did Nyans post from her sub area surfaced in first before it ended up on twitter?

[Anonymous No.]

based monke

[Anonymous No.]

BASED MONKE SAVING THE VOD

[Anonymous No.]

Connor knows the score.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829697
It's no wonder she's one of the only girls who hasn't made a big twitter apology
I hope she's not too upset about all this

[Anonymous No.]

I agree she should leave it up. Don't let that faggot Flamenco be the only place to see it. Let it be seen free from his bullshittery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829845
Breaking containment and trust in her Discord is one thing, but she's fucking broadcasting to the entire world. There are already people who are going to clip or reupload the VOD if she nukes it (as Monke just pointed out). There's no point in trying to protect her (or us) because the damage is done.

[Anonymous No.]

you fags are the lowest of lows, replying to obvious bait. Everyday I feel like at least someone will learn but no, jesus christ kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829775
Fuck you, sporty Snuff is best Snuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829775
No, Snuffy is better with smaller tits

[Anonymous No.]

just tuned into mousey's stream. So will there a vod or no? if not, why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829845
wasn't it a different screenshot?
although I don't doubt people would've used this thread's screenshot if that fag didn't post his

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829775
Shut up, you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829955
>>13829952
c o p e

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829966
maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829966
Seems like Connor saved the VOD. It was in question because the first 2 hours are Mouse just talking about the Nux drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829923
Yeah, and if her "please don't clip this" segment was 5 minutes like she initially planned I could see that being the case, but it was like an hour and a half. No way are people letting all that talking go by without doing anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829936
to be fair if someone learned to not replay to bait you wouldn't see it

[Anonymous No.]

>mmmmm yes I see...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829979
we dont need 2 silvervales dumbass just watch the original

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829900
Mels statement has nothing worth apologizing for in it, it’s still all true. She got the short end of the stick because she’s the only one that had common followers with nux.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830027
we don't need 2 silvervales, anon
we need 2 himes

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830058
we barely have one hime

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830058
2 himes still wouldn't stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830087
exactly, it's all in the numbers
2 himes equals one vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

I like Mousey. That is all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830058
We need 8 Himes. The entire group needs alt models with boobs that size. Even Zen and Silver who aren't that much smaller.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830058
Snuffy is more like a cross between Nyan and Mel with a dash of Zen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830122
GET THIS MAN ON MANAGEMENT -IMMEDIATELY-

[Anonymous No.]

And now we’ll never know what the big announcement was supposed to be, fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830058
Two times zero is still zero anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829970
>>13829923
The crop was the same as the one from here. I'm convinced it would leak anyway, but who knows? Maybe it would, but if the timing was different, or if it got less exposure, things would be different. Anyway, it didn't help because things spread fast from this place

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829510
I agree that she's not the greatest at PR and incidents like this could certainly have benefited from her not rashly commenting on them, but
>people didn't just decide to hate her for no reason.
Back when all this shit started an entire decade ago, they literally did. A specific group of people decided to target and harass her and spam her all over 4chan in order to incite more hatred from people here. She did everything she could to just get away from it but people still just bought into that shit and went after her everywhere else she went.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830157
i'm sure it's just been postponed
if it's a new member, they sure as shit won't wanna join in the middle of this shitshow, so they're probably giving a bit of time for things to cool down

[Anonymous No.]

Say Stafe, everybody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830157
which big announcement? I swear there were like 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830172
two zeros are more than ONE zero

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829617
Did Nux actually say Mel approved it? I thought the only reason we even found out Mel was "in" the chat was because someone else posted a cap without her name edited out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830221
If we're talking infinitesimals, that's true though

[Anonymous No.]

>She raided Fuslie
Clearly this whole situation was a ploy created by Mouse to force VShojo to graduate her so she can join 100Thieves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829936
actually, I was pretty impressed by how little bait did we take. Taking into account the amount of forced bait that was served here, I must honestly admit I haven't seen as resistant thread to it as this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830254
isn't fuslie the girl who loves guitars?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830200
Nyan said the 30th would be a huge announcement for VShojo or her, I forget which. That was before Nux made his shitty apology video and this dumb shit was extended a few more days. But I agree with that other anon that whatever it is is almost certainly still happening, it's just getting delayed a few days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830037
>had common followers with nux.
I really do question how many of them are there because on average Mel gets 4k-3.5k viewers on Twitch but whenever she does anything with nux it drop down to 1.9k and I wander out of that how many of them are nux fans vs people that can tolerate him

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830294
she's the one who joined them in amongus recently, that's as far as I get

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830230
The initial screencap was in Nux's apology and he blurred her name in one place but not the other. He took it down and reuploaded with full censorship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830230
Just this, really. He didn't exactly say Mel signed off but said she was in the group chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>Sleep for 4 hours
>Wake up
>1500+ new replies

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830230
His claims were always that he had approval from management and that one of the girls was in the call with him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13826136
Hard agree. I honestly don't know how she gets through it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830250
so we in fact need an impossibly large number of himes to truly breach into the greater digits
unlimited hime works

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830333
Mouse talked about the stuff. a LOT.

[Anonymous No.]

now that mouse has said her peace, this is all settled, right? i really don't want to hear that pasty faggot's name any more

[Anonymous No.]

>>13827521
That really says a lot about VShojo society

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830181
Yeah, no, don't get me wrong, people should really fucking stupid sharing things from Nyan's Discord, especially the "supporters only" stuff, or any other girls' for that matter. But, even if we didn't, some other fag would have. We know Nyan antis have memberships there and then there's /pmg/ which can never help itself either. At best if we didn't do it it would have disseminated a few minutes or hours later. Largely wouldn't have mattered. Fucks love drama and will spread that shit around. Even without /vt/sisters shit, someone else would have. It's just hilarious the rest of /vt/ didn't catch on until some Twitter dramafag blasted it everywhere. /vt/ quite literally sucks THAT bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830373
It was settled when nux made his video. If anything Mouse's stream is going to make things much easier. Getting that fucking emotional and talking up how fucking hard they've had it is going to be the kind of thing that kills a lot of the shitters in their tracks. Assuming that it gets clipped and spread around enough, that is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830336
>>13830330
>>13830324
I see, in that case he should've been aware that Mel wasn't actually present and should've been much more clear, but he obviously isn't the sharpest tool in the shed to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830294
I know she got a guitar from a sponsor recently, so I'm assuming yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830437
Mel was mentioned in Froot's dms with him as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830337
I feel the same. for someone who's very anxious and timid, she's a very strong person. I would've quit years ago when her sister's grave was pissed on. That shit fucks me up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830310
>>13830440
lool it's actually the guitar vibrator streamer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLYcyAPm0yA

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830437
if he was anything less than a retard none of this would have happened. Anyone who could read this message and think "I should make a video about this" is a goddamn idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829823
Not mad about her leaving. Around the time she was cucking her fiancee everyone wanted her to leave I think

[Anonymous No.]

https://mega.nz/file/3osVDSZS#7cLYVdQOlRwtpb-_u0rh8vR3sZ3Jt9XQFrXIAWVcBT0
Here is the karaoke part of mouse stream just in case

[Anonymous No.]

The drama is over, right? We can go back to business as usual, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830480
nta but fkn lol. I was trying to remember who the hidden-vibrator streamer was just the other day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830521
It might not be. When everyone has streamed at least once and either chosen to acknowledge it or ignored it entirely then we'll be completely safe. But I doubt anyone else has anything to say after Mouse tonight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830394
its aready clipped to death, and a few of the drama channels were actually watching her while streaming themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830394
If anything, I would've thought it'd be over with Nux's video, but Mouse's video stirred the pot again. Makes the girls much more sympathetic, but at the same time hangs management out to dry. Question is whether you think lifting the veil on that was worth the extra drama.
I'd say it was, the girls don't deserve to take the bad rap for management and Nux's fuckups. Gunrun ought to put out an apology to both the girls and Nux, since if they had been firmer with him so his dumb ass got the message and communicated better with the girls 90% of this drama could've been avoided.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830196
They could let Carmilllia join, she might scare away antis.

[Anonymous No.]

Mouse deleted her VOD

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830394
I'm pretty sure nux was aware that Mel wasn't there and I don't even think gunrun was there since none of the screencaps had either of them talking

[Anonymous No.]

vod is gone, what's this talk about connor saving it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830521
in these threads? fat chance, it's 4chan and people love being paid attention to. same for twitter. it's very easily going to be ignorable once the streams start returning to a normal schedule, or if you just, don't pay attention to retards. it'll only start calming down from here, though.

[Anonymous No.]

Taking blames are part of management so who fucking cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830655
he tried his best, ok?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830521
Unless Violence Nyanners wants to alert people she wants that smoke on stream tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830565
I think the fact that as the night went on Mouse's audience grew from Nyan and Silver to them plus Vei then Zen leads me to believe that she kind of spoke for everybody and was cathartic for them all. She also put all the heat on herself in doing it. No, she wont get in trouble with VShojo. She may be in Gun's doghouse for a bit but it's still a business and she makes them money so things will be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830655
She asked him, if she should keep it, he said keep it, as others will upload it anyway, she said ok, but still deleted it. Whamen, amiright?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13829641
>Nyanners has been a cunt since the day she felt she was too good for the group that propped her up to begin with.
literally a cult mentality

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830437
Using people who arn't involved for clout is par for the course for him, but in this case it's got a lot of the hate directed towards Mel specifically
He should have just left her out of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830585
I think they should sack gunrun and find someone more competent to run vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>13830181
>>13830382
huh? I believe nyan shared that in her discord knowing full well that it would spread and blow up. From her pov, vshojo tried everything they can to stop nux from uploading the video but nux didn't listen. Some of the girls reached out to him but he still didn't listen. She was terrified of another dox/swat and she had no choice. She couldn't just stay silent when the vshojo fucks were doing nothing. And she doesn't nux enough to reach out to him. I don't get the blame on the girls. It was all a fuckup by the cybersecurity guy, gunrun and the communication. GunRun messed it up even more by slowly removing bits from the medium post and didn't bother to include any comments. That started a narrative that everyone was lying. Vshojo is 100% to blame. Everything they did was done in the most unprofessional and idiotic way possible

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>>13830684
>>13830585
The thing is, I think Gun is perfectly fine with taking the blame for this. Eventually the buck stops somewhere and he's the somewhere and he's a business man who knows that shit happens and someone has to take the slings and arrows. He can take it.

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>>13830684
this, Gunrun doesn't have to be front and center like the girls so he can go "oopsie, sry" and let them keep streaming without getting shit on.

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Mouse handled it like a boss she is without leaving her bed

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>>13830751
I don't really see him as incompetent tho

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>>13830764
That's how little of a fuck she gives about this shit, she did take it lying down.

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>>13830585
The main cause (besides nux) does seem to be vshojo trying to be too soft and corporate with someone who doesn't speak that language
They're living in a world where
>as per my previous email
can mean
>I'm about to come over there and stab you
which doesn't work so well with people like this. They needed to get down to his level and really spell it out

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>>13830645
>privated
ftfy

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>>13830754
This starts off making sense then slowly devolves into weird anti management rambling. You know Nux is still almost entirely to blame for this right?

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>>13830833
same shit, retard

[Anonymous No.]

i am going to grope Hime's tits in AI Dungeon (if the AI allows it)

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>>13830858
You can write entries for the AI. Just dump your erotic fanfic there.

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>>13830489
I still can't get over how dumb this was. Was he thinking "okay. a month has gone by. It should be safe enough to make a video about it now" and took it into his own hands?
A lawyer should've been assigned to this dumbass to flatly inform him.

>>13830802
This.

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>>13830858
good luck bud

[Anonymous No.]

I got the full vod uploading to mega tomorrow as its 12 am and i need to work tomorrow.

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>>13830754
Overall, you're retarded, and obviously one of those "anti corpo" fags that has infested /pmg/ since they began. However, while I think Nyan knew it might get out, I sincerely do not think she thought it would blow up like this. She wanted to vent, she wanted Nux to know they didn't approve, but she underestimated her words and the salivating hordes of dramafaggots. She's always saying how sacred she is to say anything because people take her shit out of context, so that should tell you just how frustrated she was that night. She risked speaking for her own sake and instead of it just being of mild interest, became a Twitterfag wankfest.

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>>13830896
thanks

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>>13830896
Quit it. Work is for the weaks.

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>>13830892
yeah but it's more exciting when I roll the dice to see if Hime responds positively or not to my groping.

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>>13827459
cringe dude

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>>13830858
fill out the world info with characters and fetishes you like, be sure the make them all active for your current prompt, turn off safe mode and edit the adventure to be nsfw. you may still have a struggle but if you keep insisting on what you want you'll get it. godspeed.

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone summarize what mouse said since it went on so long?

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It seems like nux jumped out with the toy gun during the military operation and got everyone mowed down. Worst thing is that whatever was happening to girls is still out there.

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>>13830931
>fill out the world info with characters and fetishes you like
lul I already have a vshojo setting with maxed out character limit for backstory, including descriptions of every girl's personality, tit size. but i might do a one-off adventure with Hime and see where it goes.

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>>13830952
Fuck Nux, fuck dramafags and FUCK CANUR

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>>13830952
shit's fucked, bruh

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>>13830894
You don't understand, he was also working with law enforcement and was clearly on the cusp of bagging the guy himself, as his video showed

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>>13830856
Not quite. A privated video can be unprivated and put back available; deleted is toast.

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>>13830678
I don't expect much from the place that calls any Vtuber they don't like a whore and Twitter is Twitter. I just hope this doesn't affect collabs with other Vtuber companies

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>>13830802
really? he's the one in charge the buck stops with him and this communications problem has been there since the beginning

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>>13830853
Well yes, but we already know he's retarded. I'm mostly concerned about the harassment of the girls on twitter. I'm calling out the management because they have been unclear about this since the beginning. They could've said that there was miscommunication on their part and took responsibility. They didn't explain anything clearly which led to retards assuming things and blaming the girls.

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>>13830963
Leeroy Jenkin'd the whole thing.

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So has Gunrun adressed those stealth edits to his medium post or does he really think people are too retarded to not notice or check an archive for evidence of those changes? How does this help the girls at all?

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>>13830925
They described it stupidly, the real reason no one can fuck with Silver is because she's the crazy you're not supposed to put your dick in.

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>>13831050
>I just hope this doesn't affect collabs with other Vtuber companies
It won't.

>>13831065
One more (you) then I'm done, because my answer is more for anybody else who isn't a retard but curious about this. The communication problem only cropped up after the video went up, per Mouse tonight. They were not told what they said to Nux and were not consulted on the video at all. This doesn't mean that VShojo did anything wrong. Phoenix was right that there was no way to ultimately stop Nux, at least not by them. However, if the girls were there maybe they could have convinced Nux not to do it. Maybe. What sucked for the girls is that VShojo was talking to Nux after the video went up but, again, didn't tell the girls what was happening. So the girls thought NOTHING was happening (which is what Mouse said they told them) and the girls thought they had to take it on themselves after there was nothing happening for a couple of days. That was when they "dogpiled" on Nux. The girls acted rashly because they weren't being talked to. That was the only time Mouse or anybody has complained about communication. What she said was that they were "ordered" not to discuss the investigation and what was happening to them, not in public, not to their chat. Considering what Nux did, their orders were completely in the right, but for the girls going through it, that isn't very helpful. It is understandable how their frustration and fear grew and culminated in this emotional explosion. But, to say VShojo itself was in the wrong for a gag order is foolish considering the results of one person breaking that.

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>>13831123
Corrected a mistake in reporting. I don't know why that is a problem for people. Anybody with half a brain can see that obviously a detail was wrong and they had to set the record straight. But, oh wait, half a brain, I forgot I was talking to dipshits who don't care about truth and believe rrats on /vt/ as gospel.

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>>13830902
I'm not anti corpo, I actually had a lot of respect for GunRun and liked him. I also agree that she was venting out to her supporters. But I don't know if she would've been happy with the video up like that. There was no way nux was removing it, with how management was handling it. It is a bit counter intuitive as there's more talk about it but at least the video is deleted now

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>>13831270
Mouse said she was told that they were working on it, which they were, but she still wanted to know more about what was happening as all the girls obviously did. That's where I'd say management failed, but they were assured that they were working on things.

>>13831327
Definitely not. We saw Froot's DM's where she talked about how scared she was to him. And by Mouse's own account tonight she didn't want to confront him about it but also didn't want to just stand by and let it stay up. He also didn't remove it thanks to them asking. They had to dogpile him on Twitter and absolutely fucking ruin him for him to get the hint.

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>>13831327
>deleted
Privated

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>>13831123
why is that even a problem lol

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Nuxs tweet with froot in the thumbnail still up btw

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>>13831312
If you make a statement like this, include wrong information (even if you didn't know it was wrong at the time) and then change it, the least you have to do is inform everyone of this change so they can be aware that the information they got at first was wrong. Otherwise it just looks like you are trying to hide your fuck-up.
But yeah sure, expecting management to not do retarded shit like this so it doesn't reflect poorly on the girls or allow antis to accuse them of lying is something only dipshits do.

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>>13831074
There are a lot of lines in their statement that own up to their part in this
>a stronger effort from the management to sync with our talent at the start could have been helpful in preventing this situation’s escalation.
>Any confusion that previously arose from this issue was the responsibility of VShojo Staff.
>we could have been much clearer on the risks.
We can only hope that they learned a lot from this, at least

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>>13830759
He never streams or posts, so I'm guessing he's a good soft target.

Unless he has some secret blog somewhere, he seems to be mostly silent during streams. Especially tonight, even when there were dummies in Mouse's chat blaming him, he never spoke up.

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>>13831467
While I'm sure they feel this way and want to do better, I'm still pissed that they feel those are changes that need to be made going forward. Nux is a special kind of stupid. Anyone else and this would have ended here. >>13830489

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>>13831123
What do you think?
>How does this help the girls at all?
It was supposed to make Vshojo look better by covering up errors, but it had the opposite effect when it was noticed. Which is to say not at all.

>>13831270
>The communication problem only cropped up after the video went up
That the video went up at all was already a communication problem because neither Gunrun nor ph0enix had the sense to be direct and say "we don't want you to make this video because we believe it'll be bad for the girls and our investigation", instead of the wishy-washy agreement he got that he took as approval. That was already bad enough, and then you outline how things got worse from there. And as you say, had they gotten the girls involved, maybe Nux wouldn't have released it. Hell, they never even said "hey, can you please hold off for a day or so so we can talk about this and get everyone's feedback" or anything.
>But, to say VShojo itself was in the wrong for a gag order is foolish considering the results of one person breaking that.
The "gag order" was just one part of a big communication clusterfuck that is this incident.

>>13831312
Making the correction isn't the problem. Doing it silently is. There wouldn't be a problem if the article was updated to say "sorry, we made a mistake here and we've corrected it". This is like PR 101, you don't do silent edits because it makes it look like you're trying to hide things.

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>>13831312
I don't have a problem with correcting, Just include a note/comment about deleting it. Removing stuff out of nowhere when people point out the mistakes only makes you look scummy. That was a big reason why everyone dogpiled on mel and the girls, saying that everything is a lie.

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what up flamenco you clean the piss out of your pants yet when you got caught restreaming

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>>13831452
>antis
Yes, like I said, nobody cares what dipshits think. They don't care about facts or even truth. And you are right there with them having zero critical thinking skills and thinking the opinions of shitters and antis matter. Most rational people didn't bat an eyelash at it. Would I agree that a footnote to the document saying "this document originally stated x and was incorrect and has been fixed for accuracy" is a good idea? Yes. Is it necessary? No.

[Anonymous No.]

>want gura and nyanners to collab just for the chaos that will follow

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>>13831505
It'd be like if they told a retard "don't shoot yourself in the foot" then 1 month later he picks up a gun, does exactly that, and suddenly they have to say "we should have communicated better just how much it would hurt and how many bones you would break by shooting yourself in the foot. we'll do better going forward."

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>>13831510
I do PR-ish stuff for a non-profit, and silent edits are a double-edged sword. On one hand the incredibly engaged get very upset with them, but on the other hand putting up another notification about a correction gets a larger population of semi-engaged onlookers convinced that you're untrustworthy. Both approaches have merits. Personally, I would probably include a correction in the medium post but not tweet about it or anything

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>>13831452
>Otherwise it just looks like you are trying to hide your fuck-up.
ok, personally I'd do that too, but that changes nothing except appearances. If no Ill will was present on the other side that wouldn't even be a minor concern. Also, it's not like any key points were edited.

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>>13831583
Appearances are the only thing that matters

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>>13830952
>Lots of stress last week and even up to today
>Regretted posting her statement and directing a hate mob at Nux, still learning what it means to have an internet presence this big
>"A friend" messaged her at 4am saying how she was so scared about the video staying up that she couldn't eat or sleep (probably Nyan). Mouse choked up at this point.
>Everyone has exchanged apologies with Nux privately
>She stressed that those apologies are for them, and they don't need to publicly apologize (addressing the "we deserve a public apology" fags)
>Disowned fans of hers that harassed Nux or any of his friends (good thing I didn't break containment)
>Frustrated that neither she nor any of the girls knew about the video until it was already up, wished they were included in the conversation
>Said Mel only set up the group chat with Nux, GunRun and ph0enix, was at Patreon meetup the whole time (unclear how much she was involved in the conversation in the beginning or how much she knew about the video)
>Got 27 death threats, made fun of some dumb comments
>Laughed at the rumor that Nyan is in management
probably some other stuff, that's just what I remember

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>>13831579
>Personally, I would probably include a correction in the medium post but not tweet about it or anything
That would be perfectly fine, yes.
>the incredibly engaged get very upset with them
The thing is that this was already clearly a volatile situation, so they should've known people would be scrutinising it and noticing the edit as soon as it would made. That especially is what made it dumb to do it without comment.

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>>13831609
To idiots.

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>>13831510
exactly what this anon said, I didn't expect much from the management because its only a handful of people and they're new to this. But Management is absolutely to be blamed for this disaster.

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>>13831579
Etiquette would be to acknowledge technical edits at the end of an article, and major changes at the top. No need for an updated tweet.

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Nux was too dumb, management was too inefficient and girls were too emotional. We cross out dumb, as it is an excuse for everything, and emotional for girls and end up with inefficient management. Kinda feel for them though, as from Mousey's words they are dealing with an unorthodox case. I mean, catching randos on the internet before they do something horrible and it's too late is tricky.

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>>13831563
I wish there was a way to see this board's reaction to that collab without Nyan also getting the corresponding bump in harassment that would accompany it

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>>13831549
>Most rational people didn't bat an eyelash at it.
Most people aren't even aware he did that shit.
>Is it necessary? No.
Yes, it is. When the entire narrative against them is "vshojo lies and tries to hide their fuck-ups", doing something like this only reinforces that narrative and give the shitters more ammo. You might think it doesn't matter but it does, a shitter with nothing to back up his claims and a shitter with "evidence" are two completely different problems, as the chief jew himself proved.
It's retarded not to inform of that change. They gain nothing from it and risk looking like shit. It literally serves no purpose other than allowing management to save face for 5 minutes, before someone brings this up in the right place and stirrs shit up again.

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So are we getting a nux collab or not

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>>13831505
Yeah how do you read stuff like
>we are afraid of interfering with a police investigation
and feel like that's a green light
Sheer arrogance

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>>13831505
>Anyone else and this would have ended here
b-but he made that video for altruistic reasons just for the sake of others!

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>>13831641
I don't think anybody disagrees with that. As >>13831467 points out, they already are critical of themselves for this. Some of the shit people are flinging at them, however, are bullshit and perfectly valid to be criticized as being bullshit.

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>>13831680
hopefully never again

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>>13831641
Mouse really emphasized the "new at this" and "we're just babies," which is fair enough. I can forgive the growing pains of a new company. Although, if there's another blow-up within the next year, it's really going to make them—Vshojo as a whole—look bad.

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>>13831680
Anon, the girls may be putting a nice face on it, but it's more likely that that brazilian roblox kid becomes a pngtuber and lands a collab than that any of Vshojo streams with Nux again

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>>13831659
>Most people aren't even aware he did that shit.
EXACTLY. Because it didn't matter. No major points were changed except that the "short notice" went from a specific 30 minute time to a few hours (the 30 minute thing came from Phoenix's comment that they could produce a response in 30 minutes, which is where the mistake came from). It was a nothingburger and the only people who cared were people who hated VShojo and the girls to begin with and there was NEVER going to be any convincing those faggots of anything.

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>>13831680
Pretty safe to assume that 'strained friendship' ended here and they are now strangers with no hard feelings

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>>13831687
Gotta get those clicks

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>>13831746
Only thing I don't like is Nux's new apology video acting like nothing was all that bad. Can see himself getting back into lots and lots of people's good graces in a matter of time. Too many fucking centrists anywhere. Nux is almost entirely to blame for every step of the way this shit turned out, and one of the things that I've malded over more than anything else this entire saga is "both sides fucked up". Like yeah, both sides could have done better, but one side spilled a drink your new couch while the other burned your entire house down. They're on completely different levels.

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>>13830902
>and obviously one of those "anti corpo" fags that has infested /pmg/
If you're a fan of the actual vshojo waifus why the fuck would you not be anti-corpo after Mouse's stream? Those retards you call management are half the reason besides N*x that caused this massive fuckup because they don't know the definition of the word "communication". Vshojo overall has clearly been causing the girls ALOT more stress compared to the supposed benefits(namely in merch and collabs, which the girls would've been able to do just fine with by themselves in time given how big they are). Fuck that god damn chink Gunrun.

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>>13831510
It didn't help that none of the girls even wanted to talk to him any more before any of this happened.

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>>13831782
>Because it didn't matter
No, because they didn't find out about it,.
>No major points were changed except that the "short notice" went from a specific 30 minute time to a few hours
The 30 minutes time window was important but yes, the information itself isn't something that completely changes the narrative, which is even more of a reason to not do a stealth edit and just add a fucking footnote or something.
It's a nothingburger that will only bring trouble in the long run in exchange for literally nothing.

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>>13831680
He's in

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How is communication still such an issue, they're only 12 people, it's not like it's a 100 person operation, and this isn't the first time it's been a problem. On a smaller scale how many times have the girls said they don't know what's going on with merch and haven't been told what's happening, with lewdcast they've said they kept asking but no one told them what happened or why it's gone, the no nsfw retweets were also blown out of proportion due to how shit communication was internaly, them not being involved with the auditions, although I can understand the point of keeping it neutral is also an issue since the group is supposed to be close nit and like a family. I realy hope this forces gunrun to stop being so fucking shit

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>>13831806
For general public it all became same when mobs became active, which is sad

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>>13831858
I've already agreed a footnote would have been better than not, but I stick by my point that it wouldn't have mattered to the shitters. They would have pointed out the correction as VShojo lying and covering up anyway. There is no winning with those faggots.

>>13831847
Back to /pmg/ and take this (you) as a courtesy gift for stopping by.

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>>13831546
God, that was pathetic, and then I've looked into his pov and it was even worse.
I honestly believe the worst thing about this whole drama was him getting exposure. He somehow makes Nux look like a saint compared to him.

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>>13831887
>they're only 12 people
That may be the issue

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>>13831616
>>She stressed that those apologies are for them, and they don't need to publicly apologize (addressing the "we deserve a public apology" fags)
I dunno, I feel like there's some merit to the idea that because they made a public condemnation of him that they should make a public apology accordingly. It's not for Nux himself really, since they can have that conversation in private, but it's more a matter of publicly clearing the air about it and admitting fault (in making that public condemnation before sorting things out internally, not fault in being pissed over what information they had at the time) instead of just letting it hang there. Obviously that's not much of a consideration now that she's gone and had that stream, but I don't really get what the objection to it would be. You can't say it's not a public matter because it was made public with their initial comments. As for management's miscommunication being largely responsible for this fiasco, I'd say that's kind of beside the point. Well, management could probably stand to put up an apology on their behalf instead, I guess. It's a PR thing more than a personal thing.

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So what we learned from this is that Nux is fucking retarded. He bite more than he could chew, and couldn't understand the whole situation. Mouse believes he wouldn't have published that video if he knew the whole extent of the problem...I wonder about that.

Management completely fucked up, they should've taken a stronger stance when talking to Nux about publishing the video, instead of trying to dance around issue as to why that video was a problem to begin with.

And after that management fucked up once again by not being clear with their own fucking talents. Like holy shit, you are managing a bunch highly emotional 20-30 years old, what do you think they are going to do when they can't deal with all the stress, and being quiet about everything even before Nux inserted himself into the picture?
If you tell them "we are working on it, don't do anything" over and over again without showing them that you are actually doing something about it, of course they are going to eventually explode.

So who won? the fucking doxxers won. They got a whole fucking drama out of it and are probably laughing at both sides. Hell, I'm sure this whole shitshow will incite them to do more.

But hopefully that's the end of this whole fucking shit and the girls can go back to their normal schedule.

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>>13831887
>still such an issue
>then lists a bunch of not examples of communication problems
A courtesy gift of a (you) as well. Fuck off back to /pmg/.

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>>13831900
It was wild to see how wound up Mouse's chat got after everything she said. Too bad that VOD won't stay up (or will it?). It's a great document of crowd reaction during a live stream.

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>>13831976
Nearly every member has put out a public apology to the communities for the public nature of the spat. Mouse was addressing faggots who think they need to publicly apologize to Nux, which is not necessary at all.

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>>13831998
you have problems

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>>13832005
i missed the stream but did chat shit on management oo?

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>>13832063
Fair enough.

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>>13829875
what happened?

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>>13832084
They were not happy when Mouse told them that Management said they would do "nothing". That seemed to elicit the biggest reaction I saw.

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Mouse exterminated most of the rrats, but holy shit how much shit she had to go through + death threats, truly built different

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>>13831657
>the girls were too emotional
I mean, their own safety was on the line. If I was doxxed, I'd be in a fucking panic. Small wonder the girls were depression-bingeing Minecraft for two months.

>>13831738
I mean, this is the second big blow-up. The first was the edict demanding no more porn on their Twitter pages, Vshojo hung Silver out to dry with that one.

>>1383188
qft

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>>13831995
This.

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>>13832143
is it exterminated if only a handful of people know about it and there are no clips?

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>>13831995
>So who won? the fucking doxxers won. They got a whole fucking drama out of it and are probably laughing at both sides. Hell, I'm sure this whole shitshow will incite them to do more.
That's definitely the worst part of this whole situation.

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>>13831939
>No rebuttal
Please don't tell me you're still a corpro shill after clearly seeing how those incompetent faggots Gunrun and Ph0enix "handled" shit

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>>13831806
>Like yeah, both sides could have done better, but one side spilled a drink your new couch while the other burned your entire house down. They're on completely different levels.
a good analogy would be "one side spilled a drink and the other wasn't fast enough to grab a towel"

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>>13832097
Mouse asked him in a DM if she should and he said no because someone will just upload it anyway

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>>13831976
At this point, I don't think you'll get a public apology out of Silver towards Nux without losing a bloody pound of your flesh.

[Anonymous No.]

bros... it's over...

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>>13832130
Is there a single Vtuber company that doesn't have shit management?

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>>13831563
The buddies would lose their goddamn minds. Wouldn’t wish that on any of them. Honestly think it would be pretty good though after spaghetti spilling from both of them.

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>>13831876
guys this would be the most badass debut in vtuber history if this all was to establish a lore between them

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>>13832216
should delete the VOD*

fuck

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>>13832245
No, and it extends to regular companies as well.

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>>13832171
Don't forget Drunk Mel nearly earning them a lawsuit.

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>>13832245
Hololive. Management would never let a situation such as this come close to the shitshow those braindead fucks you call Vshojo management have.

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>>13832252
Don't they know each other vaguely from Gura's past life?

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>>13831791
I think you meant "gotta do it for the sake of independent vtubers" he's an indie after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>13832295
qrd?

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>>13832210
Okay, one question first: is there any way that I can convince you to change your mind on this subject?

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>>13832295
Drunk Mel? I don't remember that one.

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>>13832171 Their own safety wasn't on the line, the doxxing was being done to indie vtubers who were trying to get into vshojo, they weren't being affected at all.

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>>13832185
General public is kinda over it, but the curious ones will find out anyway. I still believe she will republish it, as her take is the most well-rounded + people were saving it anyway

[Bait Judge Has Judged 123182936 Baits Since 2007 No.]

>>13832297
Way too obvious and try hard. Please submit your attempt again.

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>>13832318
Don't know if I'd say nearly earned them a lawsuit, but she admitted to basically sending gay porn magazine subscriptions to someone who had wronged her. There was speculation it was Digi, but some of the details she provided didn't line up so unless she was lying it wasn't. Mouse panicked and started saying THAT WAS A JOKE while Mel was barely aware she'd said anything bad lol.

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>>13832319
If you can somehow convince me that the supposed benefits of joining vshojo have outweighed the clearly obvious amounts of stress and headaches that they have caused the girls then sure.

[Anonymous No.]

In the end the consequences of this entire thing are realy that this is the end of vshojo, or of thinking of vshojo, as a group of friends or a group of vtubers that are basically indie that just happen to be under a company for merch/legal reasons

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>>13831995
I don't think the same doxxers even care. The doxxers and the guy (heaven something) who did the phishing are not part of the same group.

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>>13832369
kek
Would you even be able to sue over that?

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>>13832318
>>13832320
I can't remember who was hosting, but it was months ago. Mel had a little too much apple juice and started to talk about the DigitRevX fiasco and admitted a little prank she pulled, which could be considered harassment by a PR department in a corporate setting. It was quickly swept under the rug by all involved, but I'm certain there was a meeting about it afterwards.

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>>13832388
Mouse said herself she loves VShojo several times on stream. Every girl talked about how much they loved the company during their anniversary tweets. Unless you're suggesting they were forced to say that it's safe to say they're happy.

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>>13832345
Are you incapable of actually reading or listening to anything, you retard?

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>>13832318
>>13832320
I'm assuming the dipshit either means Mel drinking on stream when her stated age was less than 21 or the drunk Q&A where Mel "forgot" she was streaming and started talking about just about everything. Since nothing came of either of those, I don't know why they'd be issues. Only Mouse thought that they were "getting banned tonight".

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>>13832356
>Namefagging
The one who needs to try again is (You), newfag retard;.

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>>13832297
>suspends Coco for 3 weeks for showing Taiwan, put out statement sucking China's dick, HoloEN management ignores her collab request until she decided to leave
I love Hololive but this is terrible bait

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>>13831887
>How is communication still such an issue
Two words: remote work. If they had all of those 12 people under one roof it wouldn't be an issue.

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>>13832388
Can you imagine Nyanners having the courage to approach Kizuna Ai for a collaboration herself?

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>>13832302
How well is anyone’s guess, but she used to reply to nyan tweets from time to time. Given her content I’d hazard nyan inspired her to some degree.

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>>13832439
Fucking 100% this. When we started working from home last year communication got so bad we just didn't get anything done anymore.

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>>13832369
The guy had a wife which is what made it funny. It definitely wasn't digi lol

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>>13832345
I guess you missed the part where there was something much bigger going on in parallel to phishing that targeted just vshojo

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>>13832388
Hm, benefits I might be able to do, because that involves numbers of which I can produce in spades, but since "obvious amounts of stress and headaches that they have caused the girls" is highly subjective I don't think I can. Furthermore, your stance is highly prejudicial since apparently I have to judge either of those things based on your opinion and not the people involved. You're only setting me up for failure.

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>>13832295
Eh, only a handful of armchair lawyers got heated about that one

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>>13832345
now you're just being ignorant faggot

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>>13832532
nigga calm down, this ain't no court

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>>13832369
It was basically a worry because people assumed it was Digi. He's the most notable man in Mel's life who has wronged her, and considering the shit he pulled he absolutely would have gone after her if she'd done that and admitted to it. She said the guy had a wife, but people also thought she may have said that just so people would assume it wasn't Digi. One asshole even @'d Digi the clip on Twitter to ask if it was him but since nothing came of it it's safe to assume she was telling the truth and it wasn't him. Since Digi's also the only guy who would know her vtuber identity that would be able to take action against her for that there was nothing to worry about, but at the time it was a big topic of discussion on /pmg/

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>>13832542
I didn't think it was so bad, but I don't run a company

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>>13832615
If it was him it definitely would have appeared in his twitlonger essay

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>>13831995
>Management completely fucked up
I disagree. A bit, but not completely.
>they should've taken a stronger stance when talking to Nux about publishing the video
If that happened, we would be talking about a whole different drama today namely "Nux releases a video exposing vshojo trying to cover up doxing of their applicants"

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>>13832532
It also doesn’t help that these stresses effect nearly every streamer after they get big enough. Sadly dealing with dox/swat is a part of the job. If it turns people away, they just weren’t ready for it in the first place.

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>>13832656
>If that happened, we would be talking about a whole different drama today namely "Nux releases a video exposing vshojo trying to cover up doxing of their applicants"
There's a difference between asking him not to post the video and demanding he not post the video. They didn't even do the former, let alone the latter.
Also, in that case the headline would quickly change to "some retard called Nux interferes with a police investigation and helps a doxxer cover their tracks while digging up bad memories for a bunch of girls".

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>>13831995
>So who won? the fucking doxxers won.
true
>are probably laughing at both sides
maybe, but from what I've seen they don't really care about vshojo anymore and are having an absolute festivity about Nux fuckup. Also, it seems he's gonna be targeted now.

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One thing still confuses me though. If Mel was there for the group chat before the release of the video, why didn't she stay for the discussion to help explain to him why it's a retarded idea? Especially if she herself was aware of the risks, which she obviously was. Clearly, avoiding that disaster would have been of higher importance, and her Patreon stream could have been rescheduled? Mouse said on stream that none of them knew about the video before it came out, but Mel was there and knew. I don't see why she couldn't have at least let them know it was going to come out so they could have tried to tell him not to publish it.

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>>13832722
>There's a difference between asking him not to post the video and demanding he not post the video.
if that's how you wanna see it, then they basically did the former

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>>13832297
>Management would never let a situation such as this come close

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>>13832779
>then they basically did the former
They didn't do that at all, that's the entire problem. To bounce off of this guy's analogy >>13832212
Nux said he was going to tip over a glass of water, Vshojo said "boy that sure would make the carpet wet!", and then Nux did it and Vshojo went "what the fuck man I told you not to do it". That's how stupid this shit was.

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>>13832757
She set up a group and was doing her patreon meet-up. Prolly by the time she could see it video was already up. Chances are she did not read it at all.

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>>13832757
We don't really have those details, or if Mel even knew why Nux wanted to speak to VShojo management, so that's entirely speculation.

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>>13832856
Or the other way around, actually. Forgot the statement said they reached out to Nux, so there's a good chance Mel just facilitated that at GunRun's request

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>>13832757
>If Mel was there for the group chat before the release of the video, why didn't she stay for the discussion to help explain to him why it's a retarded idea?
She probably didn't expect management to do such a shit job of handling it.

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>>13832841
Perfection

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>>13832831
That's not to mention their other fuckups during 2020

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>>13832888
She's management herself though. She's one of the founders.

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Not making a new thread tonight. If you folks want to keep talking about this dead topic, make it yourselves.

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>>13832841
Wet carpet is awful, A functional brain would connect the dots. But yes.

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>>13832738
>Also, it seems he's gonna be targeted now
in nux's last video he said he has 2 big projects in the works I think one of them is that vtuber agency and if that's the case I take pity on anyone who joins because they're going to have a huge fucking target on their back because of nux

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>>13832952
>She probably didn't expect the other members of management to do such a shit job of handling it while she wasn't there.
Better?

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>>13832975
OK, I don't know how we will manage without your amazing OPs but we'll try

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>>13832345
This was talked about multiple of times before, and mousey even referred to it twice today, second time elaborating and ultimately killing the rat (which is why it's a shame she privated it for now). Doxing happening since May or March (there were initially two versions, now we know they concerned different vshojo members and she talked about something even earlier) and that was something different (but possibly by the same group) than most recent doxing of the talents that applied to vshojo (which turned out to be Saki).
She said they can't reveal the details but talked about it in with Nux and after providing details he understood the specific of the situation

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>>13833008
Twinsies with the shojos

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>>13832757
nux probably said he had more stuff to talk about the investigation so mel setup the conversation and left. how was she supposed to know that nux was going to go full retarded?

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>>13833008
I just hope he is not involved in any decision-making for the sake of others, as he outed himself as a complete amateur

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>>13832297
>The Capcom copyright shitshow nearly getting Mio Ookami's channel nuked cause of forgotten permissions and resulting in a bunch of streams being privated
>The Coco Haachama Taiwan situation
>Aloe
>Mel's stalker shit
Much as I like hololive, let's not be retarded here.

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I know Ironmouse wanted to vent, and maybe she shouldn't have done it, because it could have gone really badly, as well as opened up some fresh wounds, but it seems to be patched over.

I would still like to see some schedules for this week.

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>>13833159
Wasn’t just a stalker, it was her manager that also stalked her

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>>13833081
>there were initially two versions, now we know they concerned different vshojo members
Wait, what? I mean, there's that thing that happened which was obviously public, does that mean there was another incident that happened behind the scenes with someone else?

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wtf why did mouse delete her vod again? anyone got a backup? i just wanna watch vtubers man

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>>13833125
It doesn't matter if nux has any decision making roll or anything just being in a company with nux is going to paint a giant Target on whoever

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>>13833242
also its so fucking unprofessional man who gives a shit about this stupid ass fucking little drama all 3of my favorite vrtubers veibae nyanners and ironmouse literally just decided to say fuck it and almost completely stopped streaming for almost 2 weeks now its such fucking bullshit man I just wanna watch vtubers why can people not be professional about it its almost like the drama was an excuse to just take extended vacations its so fucking sad. at least mouse has been making some effort to stream but sadly its just fucking singing all fucking day cause the stress is so bad i say fuck this fuck vshojo if being in a company is just making streamers nervous stressed out wrecks then fucking leave and be independant again cause clearly it does more harm than good, worst case its gonna be hololive 2.0 in a few years

FEELS BAD MAN

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>>13833208
>and maybe she shouldn't have done it
oh no, she definitely should have done it
that finally felt somewhat like a closure, unlike the last Nux video he posted a moment before her stream. I'm not 100% sure what Nuxfags thought about it, but from my POV that only felt like an invitation for further brawl. And I think what Mousey did was a closure for both sides.
And she did it great, she's a trooper.
I rewatched it for the second time and now knowing the things which she had actually planned I'm noticing how she's working with the audience and man, she acquired one heck of a skill through those years of streaming

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>>13833223
>another one
If I remember it correctly, she started vaguely talking about when it started and she mention several points of time when something happened

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At least rest of the board hates Nux too from those endless threads

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>>13833684

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What did mousey say on the stream, missed it

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>>13833715
cringe

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>>13828975
You can only make the same video so many times afterall

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>>13833794
she loves nux, he didn't mean to harm anymore, she blames herself for the tweet, they all apologized and nux fixed the situation immediately because he didnt know they had concerns, it was managements fault for keeping them in the dark and not telling nux

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>>13833159
>Aloe
Not a manager fuckup, that was the scouting team fuck up. Aloe should have never been accepted in hololive.

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>>13834164
meds

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>>13834648
you can just go listen to the vod if you dont believe me

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love mousey simple as

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>>13834672
I watched the vod and that's a very delusional summary. Love? bruh

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The swatter Nux forgot to arrest made a second video taunting his fans. Will they take the bait? Will Nux get himself swatted? Only time will tell.

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>>13835300
https://youtu.be/_VADCjy9QVk

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>>13831949
He literally just sounds gay.

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This thread still lives?

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Which girl has the heaviest period? Vei?