/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

ANYCOLOR announced it closed one of their branch, Yumenographia (ユメノグラフィア) effectively firing the 51 livers working for it

Yumenographia wasn't succesfull, with their live streams often dipping in the single digits and the one to one service not getting any buzz so closing it is probably a sensible choice, though honestly ANYCOLOR didn't do much to help them get some spotlight.

But some of the livers complain that Takumi Riku (the CEO of ANYCOLOR) didn't even try to explain to them what was happening face to face and they are just left on the street with no follow up

This is getting a bit of talk in japan and even Mayuzumi made a stream about it, pretty fucked up situation

[Anonymous No.]

the 1views...

[Anonymous No.]

the jp market is oversaturated with vtubers, could care less

[Anonymous No.]

S-Slow and Steady bros...

[Anonymous No.]

The most fucked up thing about it is that they only told the livers that the service would be closed very recently, letting them hope till now
And that they will probably erase all records from it

[Anonymous No.]

>livers
Who is trying to twist words here? They were host club workers. Livestreams are not part of their job. Still unfortunate what happened

[Anonymous No.]

Go say hello to a 1view and a 2view RIGHT NOW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802734
>Anycolor
>Cover still kept holostars even at their worst

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>>13802892
These aren't Vtubers I don't know why OP is trying to lie here. They were virtual hostesses. You buy a ticket whenever they are free and then you get a session to talk to them in a virtual space. Live streams are not part of this

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>>13802892
>could care less
Eslchama...

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>>13802915
The way she says this isn't a graduation, she is just getting fired is pretty fucked up
At the very least ANYCOLOR could have tried a bit more

>>13802988
They do live streams, their main service is the hostess thing yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802734
I really dislike how Anycolor is slowly destroying the vtuber industry by flooding it with too many talents without providing them with any substantial support. And now they have thought of another excuse to introduce more vtubers with their academy program. It's really disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNoG0gB7wc
They streamed that wolf game a few hours ago

[Anonymous No.]

NOT VTUBERS FUCK OFF TO /JP/ WITH YOUR OFF-TOPIC CYBER PROSTITUTE SHIT

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>>13802734
Impossible, Nijisanji is the cool company and would never fire anyone for underperforming, they are full of young people and even have a coffee machine in their HQ they are all talented and entertaining and so much better than hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

ANYWHO?

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>>13803091
They're not Vtubers, so they didn't have any influence on the market

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803119
>CYBER PROSTITUTE SHIT
Isn't that Nijisanji at this point?

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>>13803108
Imagine streaming wolfgame and then receiving a notice you and other 50 people are getting fired.

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>>13802734
Now you know why the slow and steady approach is the best way for long term growth, soon anycolor will go bankrupt and everyone will learn from it as a case study about market oversaturation

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>>13802734
>51 livers
>just left on the street with no follow up
yo wtf anycolor

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802892
>could care less
look at this faggot, caring at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803184
With their business model the company wouldn't ever go bankrupt. It's the talents that are getting fucked here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803150
They are clearly vtubers, just this one has more than a hundred streams on her channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyZZHHbrQm6TTq-OCw1lm1Q/videos

She even streamed Noesis, I should watch that
Noesis is cool

[Anonymous No.]

we're just making more room anon, why dont you join us, we have a nice contract ready for you to sign

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>>13803127
Nijisanji has nothing to do with this. Yumenographia is a separate project.

[Anonymous No.]

Guess the color was black

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>>13803240
i ain't signing that shit nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802734
Yumenographia members were not livers and their streams were not their primary service. Furthermore, the problem wasn't just their streams underperforming, it was that virtual hostesses as a concept just doesn't work logistically.
Now, none of this matters for retards who just want to make bait threads, but still.

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>>13803037
Ok I still don't understand why you are trying to make it look like live streaming was their job?

[Anonymous No.]

why is this even posted in here. this isnt vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803253
Same boss, same company
There is a reason Mayuzumi wanted to save them

Mayuzumi is too good to be a vtuber really

[Anonymous No.]

>Stream for thousands of hours on youtube using an anime avatar
>NOT A VTUBER
Sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802734
Is anyone surprise? We all know Niji is a black company. Hololive would never do this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803228
> talents
go back holobrony. you don't give a fuck about this except using as ammo against nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803228
That'll mean they can disband niji at any time proving their title as a black company

[Anonymous No.]

they have a history of closing underperforming branches with little warning

[Anonymous No.]

Tracking and rigging was horrendous, it was even a debuff, I would prefer a VC over that bad VR experience ANYCOLOR was giving, no wonder they didn't succed. Still pretty sad for the girls.

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>>13803253
They are part of the same company

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>>13803294
Still not nijisanji. Use anycolor if you want since it's the parent company, but using nijisanji doesn't make any sense in the same way using hololive doesn't make sense for holostars.
And don't come to me acting like you are a fan of mayuzumi.

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>>13803253
That's like saying Holostars has nothing to do with Hololive, technically it might be correct, its utterly meaningless though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803354
go back nijinigger. you don't give a fuck about those talents except using as ammo against hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803240
Would I get a chance to have sex with the penguin?

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>>13803379
>>13803365
>>13803348
What part of it being a different subsidiary you guys don't understand? you can shitpost all you want but nijisanji has nothing to do with yumenographia. Only Anycolor has, so talk about it and criticizes them if you want. There's a reason no one gives a shit about yumenographia or even knows it exists.

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>>13803409
I don't give a fuck if you say holostars is part of hololive, you just want to use semantics to make nijisanji look like less of a cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive fans talking shit about shit they don't know shit about, typical.

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>>13803409
Holostars is part of Hololive just like VirtualReal and Yumenographia is part of Nijisanji.

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>>13802734
I’ll miss these whores.

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>>13803469
Did those 51 people copy an accent?

[Anonymous No.]

Not only is this midly off-topic, we already had a thread on this. Same OP trying to stir shit again? Not like anyone here would know about this shit since you have to have a jap phone number
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/13147225#13160752

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>>13803417
???????? that doesn't even make sense
>>13803415
Holostars has nothing to do with hololive but with cover, still even so, Holostars are connected via hololive production. With Anycolor, Nijisanji and Yumenographia always have been separated projects with different staff, objectives and the like.

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>>13803481
But holostars isn’t apart of hololive
just like vr and yumegra isn’t part of nijisanji

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>>13803481
Yet Yumenographia isn't even listed in their branches. Can Hololive fans stop acting like they know shit about Anycolor or Nijisanji, when it's very obvious that they don't know shit beyond whatever the fuck happens in Hololive?

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>>13803521
But the boss is the same

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>>13803481
>>13803468
Explain to me why Yumenographia isn't on nijisanji own website but their own website, retards. Semantics my ass. Blame anycolor, not nijisani, in the same way you would blame cover for holostars instead of hololive.
And VR is part of Nijisanji, they literally are on their own website, with the only difference that bilibili manages it as they own most of the shares.

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>>13803469
Rent free.
But really this practice of terminating their employees without even an exit strategy is deplorable. Why the fuck would you support a company that does this?

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>>13803552
Doesn't fucking matter.
Yagoo cut off the China branch of Hololive, you want to act like that didn't happen?

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>>13803548
You just want to argue semantics if some shit happened at holostars no one would try to save face saying its a different branch, this just means nijisanji is shit

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>>13803552
And still doesn't make it nijisanji. How difficult is to accept that? No one is saying for you to not criticize the decision, just do it the right way instead of putting two complete separate projects as if it's one thing. If you care so much about yumenographia (which I doubt, none of you ever talked about it in here), do it.

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty obvious where this thread is going, just let them be amongst themselves and don't bother

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803606
At least they had time to prepare, keep all the money they received for the last month and their avatars if they wanted

Instead of absolutely nothing like in this case

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>>13803574
Hololive literally did the same fucking thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802734
>Who were they again? Eh who cares just throw them into the pile over there

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>>13803574
Why do you still support hololive after what they did to holocn then?
>>13803619
You absolute retard, if that happened no one would blame hololive but cover. You can't fucking understand that Anycolor is the equivalent to cover and not nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803640
But everyone knows why, unlike this where you felt you're successful yet you get fired anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803655
LETS ACCELERATE 51 LIVERS AT ONCE LETS KEEP THROWING SHIT AT THE WALL AND SEE WHAT STICKS

>they all flop

YOU ARE ALL FIRED

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>>13803637
> avatars if they wanted
No, they didn't. And in fact they got the worse deal out of there.
>>13803655
> I opened a wikia, now I know how things works
This is your fanbase. Who only talk about hololive and look at other agencies in dramas, amazing.

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>>13803606
What the fuck are you on about? Their talents were given time to find a proper job. They even had their graduation. This is the industry standard.
What Nijisanji did to Yumenographia talents is different. They fired them out of the blue. I doubt the talents were given severance pay at least.

[Anonymous No.]

damn... there are a lot of bootlicking nijiniggers in here.
i feel bad about those employee who got screwed over.

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>>13803709
.. since when yumenographia felt they were successful.
>>13803714
They aren't part of nijisanji to be considered livers, go shitpost in other place. You people didn't care at all about this and only come in times like these. Fuck off.

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>>13803674
If you're not a troll then just stop responding you fucking idiot. Did you not see warning signs when the OP brought up mayuzumi out of nowhere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803674
Again you are arguing semantics, if someone said Hololive when referring to cover I'd give 0 shits, nijiniggers try to save face in any way possible.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive fans are seriously fucking pathetic.

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>>13803757
I'm sure you feel bad. That's probably why all of you talked about yumenographia before in here.
>>13803727
They literally aren't in the same industry. They aren't virtual youtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803764
If they arent part of nijisanji why is nijisanji shutting them down
Better yet why didnt they do anything to help them

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>>13802734
Damn. Nijisanji really is poisoning the vtuber industry by oversaturating it with many untalented shit huubas. This many layoffs should have us all lost for words. I mean, First it was the India branch now this??. Damn. Who's next? NijiEN, Virtualive? If it isn't the very rabid niji fanbase actively harassing their own Livers then it's nijisanji themselves doing the culling personally. Shits sad.

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>>13803802
yeah how dare they criticize this black company!

[Anonymous No.]

>it isn't my boss who is bad
>it is the boss of my boss
>who is also my boss

Nijiniggers what the fuck

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>>13803793
They are so much part of nijisanji that they aren't in their official site as members and 95% of nijisanji fans don't know they exist.

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>>13802975
Holostars aren't even 2views anon.

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>>13803655
This is false. Nijisanji IN never existed. That was their Nijisanji EN branch.

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>>13803674
>Why do you still support hololive after what they did to holocn then?
What's wrong with HoloCN treatment? They were given prior notice and had their graduations. How is that wrong? Are you being intentionally obtuse?
These poor talents from Yumenographia including their staff where fired out right away. Do you not see the problem with that?

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>>13803108
So they’re not Vtubers but do vtubing and host stuff?

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>>13803674
>holocn
Zhangs so it doesn't count desu~

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine supporting a black company

[Anonymous No.]

I only knew about their existence cause of those 3 streams that Maimoto, Subaru and Ui did with them. Sucks for them that they are getting disbanded
https://youtu.be/fiReGQCljEI

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>>13803834
... Anycolor is the one shutting them down. Anycolor and nijisanji are different things much like cover and hololive are. How hard is to understand that?
>>13803843
You see how much you guys know this with VirtuaLive, amazing.

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>>13802734
HAHAHA FUCK 'EM
IMMA MAKE TEN MORE NIJIEN, NIJIJP AND NIJIID GENS IN A MONTH INSTEAD

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>>13803788
It's not out of nowhere, he is the only one who talked about the situation
You didn't watch this stream?
https://youtu.be/2S3ngLkV_v4?t=11636

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>>13803912
>India
>English

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>>13803935
Some of them did Vtubing as a hobby, but their actual job is hosting yes. Unfortunately since OP is a troll faggot we are not gonna be able to actually talk about this

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>>13803764
Yumenographia are fucking livers, anon, what's wrong with you? They've streamed for over thousand hours with an avatar you mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.]

>N-NO HOLOBRONIES! I-IT DOESN'T COUNT!!

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>>13803973
Yeah, it's why I don't watch Cover.
>>13803915
I'm sure you care about that holobrony. It's why you talked about them in here before the thing shut down instead of talking about hololive all day.

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>>13803843
More reason to only watch/support hololive and hololive alone. Support your faves so this doesn't happen to the holos people!!!

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>>13803980
Ange had a great stream with them too

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>>13803935
They do vtubing.
They were vtubers.
Nijiniggers are sperging about definitions because AnyColor marketed them as virutal hostesses, just like they market their main branch as "livers" instead of vtubers.

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>>13802734
I think YG simply got into the radar of this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Businesses_Affecting_Public_Morals_Regulation_Act

YG may have gotten recognized as a cabaret club, and those require permits to operate. They're typically issued by the ward/prefecture administration but since it's a purely digital service with no physical venue, the water is murky.

They were still debuting new cast two months ago, and as Leah said the ticket sales are doing well, so I don't think it's internal factors that's behind the termination.

[Anonymous No.]

what's the problem?
business is business

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not even lose my time with this thread considering the amount of trolls from hololive who don't even watch anything and only appear with drama to use it as ammo. But what to expect from 4chan and the 90% holo trolls.

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>>13803788
Mayuzumi is a good dude you hater. Nijisanji should've at least adviced these girls from Yumenographia to ask help from the fans just like what they did with Shiba.

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>>13804025
There is only 1 single english speaking native across 3 gens in the current NijiEN. Dont ask me.

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>>13804054
Unlikely. Hololive brand power is a safety net. If Anya can keep up then that means Roboko won't be axed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804044
If you mean /jp/ rather than "here" then both Artia and Civia were regularly talked about before Taiwan, with Artia even having a ritual DYRBI poster in every /hlg/.

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>>13804026
I guess they could have moved the ones that already did Vtubing as a hobby to Nijisanji since they already payed for the models but I wish them the best

[Anonymous No.]

i mean that is still fucked up
dotn care about the semantics firing 50 people out of nowhere is never a good looking.
i wonder if they actually had a salary and thats why they couldnt keep them.

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>>13804054
The only people who give a shit about this thread are hololive fans who already hate Nijisanji.

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>>13804070
>>13804031
I can't take you seriously about any of this when you use "nijiniggers". With that alone it already show your intentions as 1. not actually watching anything and 2. only coming to this and talking about this as drama.
No different than Niji IN or threads about 774, re:act and other agencies. No, a bit more different since nijisanji has fans in here so there's someone for you guys to shit on.

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>>13802915
>>13803037
Do these girls even allowed to keep their models at least? Nijisanji should at least be more responsible for these girls careers.

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>>13804174
Calling you nijinigger cancels 51 people getting fired? Wow...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802734
Yagoo is pleased. The more the competition fucks up, the better our chances are of forever remaining the market leader.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804122
I meant yumenographia, not holocn. Yumenographia never has been talked in here and you guys now want to act like you ever cared.

[Anonymous No.]

Cope Hololive fans. Nijisanji fans literally do not care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804174
Stop projecting, anon. Where did I even use "nijiniggers" here >>13804031? I do watch Nijisanji you moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803910
They were. Before Roberu (and Kaoru) got popular and spread the Holostars name, they barely got any viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

I do not care

[Anonymous No.]

holy shit what a ruthless company

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804211
No, it just shows what your intentions are. Aside of course from the own content of the thread and the association of nijisanji to this project instead of Anycolor. It just shows excuses to shit on nijisanji when this isn't an action of nijisanji but anycolor as its parent company in a separate project. You want to criticize nijisanji for something? do for NijiIN.

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>>13804246
sad truths. i hope holofans won't be like this in the future

[Anonymous No.]

It's literally not vtubers, this has nothing to do with vtubers. OP is lying about the nature of what this service was.

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>>13804246
yeah that's why there's a hundred and eighteen posts in this thread, about half of which is trying to defend Nijisanji's good name

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804013
Oh wow, I'm watching it and Mayu just said the latest member of yumenographia was hired just last october
That's fucking evil

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>>13804031
They're not marketed as such. They streamed occasionally as just a hobby, hence why none of them were popular as streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804291
Nijisanji fans can't care about something the majority don't even know exists.

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>>13804292
Anon this is a troll thread for Hololive fans. This is just them bringing up bullshit to try to start shit up. Don't fall for bait.

[Anonymous No.]

That is brutal not gonna lie.

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>>13803764
Holy fuckin cope, go touch some grass.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: corporate bootlicking

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804301
No, half of them are trying to explain to retards that nijisanji has nothing to do with this but Anycolor. But somehow you guys don't understand that and still want to associate nijisanji with it. You guys shit on cover instead of hololive for holostars but somehow it's different in here.

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>>13804211
Made redundant without severance pay or an offer to move to a different branch within commutable distance.
If AnyColor didn't abuse lawyers to claim they aren't actually employees that would be illegal everywhere outside of a handful US states.

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>>13804373
Anon... your gonna have to touch some grass if you seriously think this is any real drama shit.

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>>13804246
Yeah fuck you.
If Hololive/Cover pulled this shit, I'm dropping them like garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804281
That's what they said about Activ8 and look what happened with upd8. I fear for what might happen with Nijisanji in the future. Stop being a drone, anon and let's support the livers.

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>>13804373
So I guess I'll blame hololive for holostars instead of Cover, ok? That's the reasoning youre giving to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804396
Yeah 51 people being fired out of nowhere is nothing, sure

[Anonymous No.]

savage
https://youtu.be/KkUTDDkWNEg?t=318

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804403
They did. HoloCN. Only difference is that HoloCN was a real branch of Hololive.

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>>13804379
If nijisanji fans truly didn't care this thread would just be half a dozen people furiously masturbating over their perceived win over the competition, but since you're here that is clearly false.

[Anonymous No.]

AnyColor pissed off everyone that is not a bootlicking drone with this move.
>saviorfags
>2views
>rival corpos
Call them out on this bs

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804403
Cover owns hololive.
AnyColor owns nijisanji.

This is something that Anycolor was doing which has nothing to do with nijisanji. In fact they are lucky that they own nijisanji because this other stuff they were doing was really cringe. Oh and also, it wasn't vtubers at all, it was a maid service. Some of them were doing vtubing on the side but that was their own thing.

The nijisanji CEO is not a very ruthless person, this type of action is obviously from the corporate people at anycolor

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>>13804460
I dont think anyone is competing with literal 2views anon

[Anonymous No.]

Tribal nonsense aside this is an abject failure of advertising. I coulda been practicing my Japanese with a virtual hostess all this time and I only find out the service exists because it's been shut down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804424
I doooo not carrrrre. Nijisanji fans do not care. Why don't you get it through you thick fucking skull?

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>>13804403
Stop putting hololive/cover. Cover is hololive/holostars/INNK and the actions should be about the branch that did it.
>>13804415
As I said, criticize Anycolor for this, not nijisanji. The action didn't came on nijisanji but a complete different project.

[Anonymous No.]

I would've liked to have seen Yumenographia be expanded into a sort of premium VRChat alternative, where otaku can meet and hang out. It would've still failed eventually, but I think that idea is more appealing than just a VR hostess experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802734
The hell is a one to one service?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804450
HoloCN got a months notice and had proper graduation streams.

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>>13804077
This is honestly the likeliest explanation. "a company closing a branch" making the headlines is orders of magnitude better than "a company is operating an illegal hostess club".

The latter may also gets you eyed by the businesses operating the real hostess clubs, which you do not want to mess with.

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>>13804450
>>13803915
stop goal posting, bootlicker

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804246
I see, no wonder nijisanji is losing viewership, people do not care watching

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804460
Yes, I'm sure 47 people in which at least 34 are hololive fans means this, anon. Ask nijisanji fans out of here if they know what yumenographia is, or even in Japan. They don't know and won't care, because there's no investment in it.

[Anonymous No.]

And here we see how a company that really doesn't give a shit about its talents behave.

[Anonymous No.]

You guys try to start shit like this in reddit, youtube or twitter and see how far it goes. Just say you hate nijisanji and go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804545
Delusional bootlicking nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804503
sure buddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804547
bootlicker when you guys defend mel being raped by her manager kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804547
Stop kissing Cover's ass anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802734
Huh, I had no idea the virtual hostess club was under the same umbrella as Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804489
Exactly. I very much doubt hololive fans would be shitting on hololive instead of cover if holostars was closed. Which wouldn't make sense, because hololive isn't the one managing holostars, it's cover itself.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow NIDF is in full force

[Anonymous No.]

Is there nothing that can be done? This is just really sad news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804563
Then why do nijiggers keep making anti threads where they demand hololive girls collab with holostars

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803037
Don't worry anon, I will save them

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit the absolute state of 4chan hololive fans are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803037
>The way she says this isn't a graduation
They were virtual hostesses, so you can't expect them to be treated in the same way as vtubers. Of course they're not going to get a "graduation", you dumb idolshitter.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive fans trying to start shit when there is no shit to start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804779
>>13804752
Holy samefagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804657
I get that you're upset but stop spreading rrats, bro. Holostars is not directly under Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804671
... anon, it's the own holostars fans doing that lmao they do the same in reddit, youtube and twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine caring for literal who
Certainly not me

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804752
>>13804779
Pathetic samefag

[Anonymous No.]

Where were you when you heard about the 51holocaust?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804789
>>13804814
Samefag lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804752
>>13804779
Fuck off, nijinigger. Go back to your containment thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804792
Yes it is.

Anycolor -> Nijisanji, Yumenographia, VTA
Cover -> Hololive, Holostars, Inonaka Music all under hololive production

That's

[Anonymous No.]

>Imagine caring for literal who

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804794
where
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/oaqhl3/the_chaotic_duo_kureiji_ollie_astel_leda_hololive/
This?
>0 comments
Nobody cares about holostars

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>>13804752
I really think we need a separate Hololive board. It's becoming impossible to actually talk about vtubers or general vtuber culture without holobronies invading your thread and derailing it with shitposting. Many of them seem outright underage and can't grasp the human or business sides of vtubing, they just see it as a digital reality show or some shit. It's boring as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

HAHAHAHAHA RIKU YOU FIRED 51 EMPLOYEES WITHOUT ANY WARNING I BET THEY'RE HANGING OUT IN AOKIGAHARA NOW HAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804837
Lmao, you say that as if this wasn't a thread directly talking about Nijisanji. 4chan Hololive fans will always be pathetic losers. Take a tip, why don't you try to see how far this shit goes on literally any other site? You won't, because you know you'll be kicked down from hell and back from not knowing shit about what you're talking about.

Not like I expect that kind of courage from a racist of all people lmfao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804919
Thats funny considering the majority of the shitfling that caused this board to be made in the first place came from the amount of shitposts done by nijisanji fans on /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804077
Instead of trying to sort it in any way they just closed down the whole branch. Nice company, Riku-sachou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804958
U mad nijitranny?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804958
>racist
go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804919
Everybody shits on eachother, get a fucking spine or leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805004
Said like a true coward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804958
>Racist
Of course it had to be a Twitter fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804919
Funny thing is 95% these shitpostings involve Nijisanji, which is around 5% of the vtuber fanbase. You remove Nijisanji here, you remove the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805096
Hololive fans cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805096
Totally doesn't have anything to do with holobronies treating it like a console war and letting the rival company live rent free in their head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804919
This is the Hololive board, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805145
The way i see it with your "holobronies" you sound as retarded as this guy

[Anonymous No.]

this doesn't bode well for NijiKR...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804988
No, /jp/ was fine with a single Hololive thread and a single Nijisanji thread for years until Coco the reddit dragon brought in the holobronies who thought it was acceptable to spam the beloved Touhou board with low effort threads. At some point /jp/ meidos got sick of cleaning up daily doxx spam and this containment board was created. Nijisanji had nothing to do with any of that.

[Anonymous No.]

ONE
ZERO
THREE
POINT
FIVE

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805145
>go to nijisanji en thread
>all of it is "hololive bad"
>go to hololive global
>all of them are talking about the streams
who exactly lives rent free in whose head here

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805197
You seem upset Anon. Maybe a few bullets would calm you down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805197
>spam the beloved Touhou board with low effort threads
But that's the natural state of /jp/ since 2008.
Also, Coco debuted in late 2019, and the Vtuber thread split happened in early 2020, with hololive splitting off first, then nijisansji doing the same out of spite.

>>13804919
This nigga is so high on his own farts it's not even funny anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804919
You are in the Hololive board. Yours is as a guest in /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

Guys... remember that tragedy when Riku of AnyColor fired 51 employees out of nowhere?
Apparently no separation pay was given

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805212
the nijien thread is basically a bunch of born again christians who think they've seen the light

it's a strange and silly place

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802734
Old news faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805212
>all of it is "hololive bad"
You might need to get your eyes checked, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijisanji fires 51 people of out nowhere
>Nijiniggers: ''Hololive bad!!!''

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805400
*Anycolor* fires 51 people of out nowhere
Nijiniggers are still faggots, though.

[Anonymous No.]

Let's make this thread topic a general as a sign of respect and tribute for those 51 lost souls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805375
Probably because a lot of them are ex-hololive fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805469
What's the difference?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805469
Thanks for having a brain. At least someone understand how any of this works. This would be like blaming hololive if holostars was ever closed.

[Anonymous No.]

social darwinism? social darwinism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805400
>Hololive debuts HoloX to record breaking numbers
>Competitors are either locked in controversy or closing down entire branches of their business
Feels good being a Holochad right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805483
Since you didn't watch them you aren't allowed to criticize our Nijisanji gods

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805079
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804919
I somewhat agree with you, if nijiniggers gtfo of the board, we could go back to having orange woman bad containment threads for dramafag schizos but as of right now there's too much shitpost involving nijiniggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805536
This shit was announced before HoloX dipshit. This is literally old news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805532
Holostars is under Hololive. Stop being pedantic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805518
>What's the difference?
There isn't a difference. Nijisanji is Anycolor. Anycolor is Nijisanji. It's just nijinigger cope because they don't want to admit Hololive treats their talents better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805546
they're gone, anon. please have some repect

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805469
Nijisanji is too bloated right now. It sucks for the girls to get fired but hey, business is business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805616
God I'm glad I'm not a brainless dipshit 4chan hololive fan. Must be hard, having Nijisanji live rent free in your head 24/7.

[Anonymous No.]

bros... do you think he could fire 51 chuubas out of nowhere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805546
yeah the thing that I could get from this thread is that I should criticize Hololive for whatever happens in holostars instead of Cover. Thank you anons.
>>13805190
NijiKR has 3 digit views for most of them. Yumenographia were literal 1 and 2 view and their main thing wasn't streaming in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805602
Doesn't change the fact that it's been a good week to be a Holo fan while everyone else is either fumbling or fucking up in some way lately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805665
Are they chinks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805665
I'll hope they graduate holoen

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805602
We thought the termination was amicable at least. The latest news is it isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking at nijian, it looks like a lot of people think KR is next
I sure hope it's not

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805613
Hololive isn't Cover. Hololive Production is a banner that put all three branches together but all three are managed by cover employees and management.
>>13805616
There is literally a difference you absolute moron. Anycolor isn't nijisanji, in the same way cover isn't hololive. Explain to me, you massigve faggot, how are they nijisanji if they aren't even in nijisanji member list in their own website, ever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805665
That's around 90% of the entire roster right now so we have to wait several years for that to happen without peacing out of the Vtuber market entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805770
Cope harder ahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805716
YWNBJ

[Anonymous No.]

Sad news but this is how a failing company must do, axe your employee

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805767
KR has 0 chance of going out. It shows how you guys don't know anything when you compare kr with yumenographia, which is a separate project that streaming wasn't even its main thing but cabaret shit and even in streaming they were below even indie levels.
>>13805812
if anything you are the one coping in here. I'm tired of explaining the same structure of those two companies for faggots like you that can't understand the difference and similarity of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805657
How's second place feel?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god I want this to happen so badly

[Anonymous No.]

If hololive fans think anycolor is dying, man, they must think only Cover will exist because the entire industry is behind anycolor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805755
Literally everyone in Nijisanji knew this was going to happen. Even the "Boss" of Nijisanji said they were sad that this was going to happen. This wasn't even considered a official nijisanji branch.

4chan Hololive fans were just taken surprised today, because guess what? GASP! 4chan Hololive fans don't follow Nijisanji news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803980
Oh yeah that thing.
Damn that sucks, there were some nice girls there.
That was more than a year ago when they tried out the service though and i remember thinking "wait, 30$ for a 1 on 1 hour? There's no way they're getting enough costumers in a day for it to be profitable"

[Anonymous No.]

What made him do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805874
Very irrelevant. I'm not a stockholder on Anycolor or a tribalfag to care about it. I like nijisanji because of the culture formed around it and the livers, not how much money the company makes or if they are more popular than hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805899
>Falling for bait this fucking hard

Do yourself a favor a hide the thread already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805874
Do you think Nijisanji fans care? Do you really? Or do you just doomscroll 4chan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805899
They hired a new liver in october, the news of the termination happened on the 17th and the various tweets/note of pissed off members happened in the last few days
Stop trying so hard, it's not old

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803271
It definitely does work logistically. Hell there are plenty of Vtubers using DMM's equivalent of a "virtual hostess" service that do rather well.

The issue is ANYCOLOR did nothing to help market the girls or help in any way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805868
>KR has 0 chance of going out
fuck, i wish that is true

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803503
Are those models from Custom Maid 3D?

[Anonymous No.]

Bait threads of all baits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805898
nobody think anycolor is dying
Hard to die when you have aniplex and china behind you, and it's not like their other divisions are doing badly

[Anonymous No.]

Watch as Holo JP and Niji JP still collab after this and Hololive fans seethe as both companies act like this is the most irrelevant shit ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805898
Larger companies had fallen before, so it can't be surprising if anycolor goes under

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806067
You fucking wish it would.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805899
>Literally everyone in Nijisanji knew this was going to happen.
They did not. Stop spreading lies, anon. This would've been a non-issue if the affected members of Nijisanji were given ample of time prior to the termination

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806087
They aren't members of nijisanji. They aren't considered a actual nijisanji branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802997
Personafag...

[Anonymous No.]

Oh no... They will need to get real jobs now...

[Anonymous No.]

Are these the girls that had that very cute Ange collab?

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Jyg9gFStHO8r5n4ya7XCQ

If you guys want to help, watch the academy
They will most likely follow the same path otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

I'm confused what this thread is about
Isn't this a thread for shitting on ANYCOLOR the company for firing 51 employees? what's up with this nijisanji=/=ANYCOLOR, hololive=/=cover debate, people aren't blaming the talents they're badmouthing the suits behind ANYCOLOR, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806087
Ample of time to do what? They weren't vtubers, so you can't give them a proper 'graduation' like the holobronies say. It is what it is. It wasn't an 'amicable' termination, but neither was the holoCN one.

[Anonymous No.]

I wanted Pomu to visit one of them... And so did she...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805868
>KR has 0 chance of going out
The fuck are you talking about, KR just lost two of their major talents, and on top of which both of them have complained about KR management being shit, which is corroborated by stuff like the anniversary song debacle. if there's a niji branch on the chopping block that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806253
What... the fuck are you talking about? Bora hasn't done any of that shit. She is graduating due to school.

No wait, of course, your starting shit again by bringing up shit that isn't true and more or less was made up from your ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806208
Niji fans tend to hate the talents in order to protect the company just like what happened to Meiro, Gibara, and Chigusa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804703
Just don't let them jump from the 7th floor anymore. That's unsafe even if you prepare the landing place for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806339
>Meiro
Deserved, fuck her.
>Gibara
Where have you seen hate for Gibara?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806325
She is graduating due to school, but you're willfully blind if you think she hasn't complained about how shit KR management is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804919
Oh booboo did the bad Holotourists hurt your feelings?
Imagine sharing a thread with them for a year.
t. /vyt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805939
The culture of being a second place loser?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806083
Pls no, nijiniggers are already annoying, and with that they will go on a rampage setting fire to Cover's office.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806195
It's over

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806525
The culture of bullying and underpaying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806423
lol when she came back people literally called her a traitor

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806653
Do you really call schizos and shitposers fans?

[Anonymous No.]

I know them from times when Subaru was collabing with Maimoto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiReGQCljEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuXUf2dHhBM

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806688
Do you really call people who put sugar on their porridge Scotsmen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806412
I'm still in awe how close we been to huge jab...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806707
>pre-idol but post-sports subaru
still the best incarnation of her

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806732
There is no such thing as a true scotsman

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806083
'You reap what you saw' anon, anycolor will learn their lesson and oh boi it's going to be really harsh

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806830
You have to be delusional if you think that's ever gonna happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806253
>>13805868
If you are right I'll admit I'm wrong. But looking at how they dealt with IN, I don't believe that KR is in a situation where they are in danger because most of their members are 3 digits on yt and twitch, along sc being higher. They would need a IN situation for it to happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806830
Yeah. Revenge for HoloCN! Cover will pay!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806087
They. aren't. members. of. nijisanji
Stop saying they are members. JP, ID, KR and EN are part of nijisanji, while VR is part via joint venture. Yumenographia is part of Anycolor, not part of nijisanji, which is why
>>13806208
Because there's no reason to talk about nijisanji when Anycolor exists and is the equivalent of Cover for their vtubers. This is simply the problem for me. I don't give a shit if you criticize anycolor for it, but don't criticize nijisanji when it's a complete separate project.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806830
I'm sure Cover also will reap what you sow for being isolationist, monopolistic, anti-consumer and shitty to their employees (unless they are protecting the rapist managers ofc)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806606
> culture of bullying
And with that first word I already know you are a shitposter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804188
Don't get your hopes up, not even for a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806606
it's so funny seeing holobronies making such remakers when they give below wage for the base salary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806949
I don't think they are at risk of getting axed because of poor performance, it's more likely that they get axed becasue their management are a bunch of shitheads and Anycolor decides cutting their losses is better than trying to reorganize the branch from the ground up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804188
>>13807176
Nijisanji has no responsability on any of this and it won't affect them since they aren't members. Anycolor will be affected of course, since they are the parent company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807188
I'm sure they care when they get a bigger cut on the superchats, adsense, promo and memberships than niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807107
Literally the only thing true about any of those is being Isolationist and that's being proven to be a good thing currently because they don't get involved in shit like what happened with VShojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>Dismisses 51 employees with a snap of his fingers
Haha, thanks for looking the other way, mates.
Look at how funny and epic I am!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807040
Point still the same, if they can shut yumenographia like this, so can niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807040
>but don't criticize nijisanji
Jesas, it's like religion at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807236
why do you guys keep using the word employees anyway? None of those or even in general are employes but contractors. Employee is this person you are posting and the anycolor people.
>>13807223
I'm sure you have a source to provide for this statement with how the cuts are divided on both agencies or the industry in general to compare.
>>13807303
No, retard. I would do literally the same thing if holostars was closed and hololive fans were blaming hololive instead of cover. I'm simply correcting you morons for not understanding subsidiaries and parent companies.
>>13807277
Yes, Anycolor could shut down Nijisanji if they ever wanted. But the difference is that Nijisanji is their money maker.

[Anonymous No.]

I just found out what this program is, I want to fucking shoot myself now, the idea of someone talking directly to someone like this makes me cringe so fucking much, it say discuss things, what do you discuss? Do you tell them of how your dad beat you as a child? Do you discuss American politics with them? And the whole intimate thing, do you get to have sex?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807402
Bro, have you never had a conversation before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807236
>meanwhile yagoo collab together with coco
>have to reshoot multiple times because he would say yabs
>cry during the collab
Inb4 holocn
What yagoo could possibly done for them? Their country is against cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807277
It's not the same, retard. Virtual hostesses don't get to be treated in the same way as regular vtubers. They aren't giving them a 'graduation' with a lot of mourning for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807364
>None of those or even in general are employes but contractors.
Does it make it even worse tho? For example you got Honhima nearly died of covid while Cover fast tracked their talents into vaccinations since they're counted as employees

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804533
Vrchat escorts

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802734
not /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807519
Since when cover or the industry counts vtubers as employees? They are all contractors, not employees of the company.

If cover counted vtubers as employees their number of employees would be much larger than the 162 they have. They aren't registered as employees and im pretty sure the vaccine was done by themselves.
Honestly, I have no idea why we even just discuss those kind of things only with holo and nijisanji when we should look at the industry overall.

[Anonymous No.]

I only watch Nijisanji livers like Mito and Tamaki idk if that makes me "nijiniger" but even I think this is shitty situation. Hope the girls somehow manage and reincarnate.
Also the whole idea of virtual hostesses club was fascinating, kinda sad it is getting abandoned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807402
absolute moron

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807644
No it makes you a nijinigerian

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807601
literally streamed with vtuber avatars on YouTube for multiple occasions

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807644
You can be a nijisanji fan and find this situation shitty. The only problem is associating this with nijisaniji when those aren't nijisanji members. I said before but none of us care about shitting on anycolor for this, just do it correctly instead of picking up a sister company (nijisanji) and act like they did it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807746
doesn't count

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807746
I guess PewDiePie is a vtuber then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807364
fucking retard being dumb about semantics. the fact is the fatfuck fired 51 people without a care for them is also the fatfuck that handles nijisanji. this shit could happen to your oshi too but you don't seem to care because you're too busy dealing with "hurr nijisanji is livers hurr durr anycolor and nijisanji not same" like a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807864
>muh 51
How many breads have you eaten in your life?

[Anonymous No.]

>Sony plans to debut 50 vtubers
>nijisanji deletes 51 vtubers to oblivion
I guess sony pulled out the funding

[Anonymous No.]

I don't see 51 here, only 29. Does that mean almost half of them didn't even have youtube channels?

[Anonymous No.]

there's more conversation about (sort of) yumenographia in this bait thread than there's ever been across all 4chan boards... sugoi...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805665
he could but he wouldnt

[Anonymous No.]

>>13808079
>no males
No wonder they failed.

[Anonymous No.]

nigger corp

[Anonymous No.]

>>13807864
yes, I'm doing it because there's a difference. You wouldn't be blaming hololive if holostars was closed but cover. That's the main point for me and why you should blame anycolor and not nijisanji. That's it. All of you guys blame cover for stuff that happens on the three main branches, so the same should be applied in here.
>>13808079
Yes, the fair majority didn't stream. Stream was only a hobby for a few of them, which is what everyone is trying to say it here for the people who don't know and only came here to shit on nijisanji in a different project.
>>13808116
Of course. There's never conversation about nijisanji or any other agency not called hololive if not for drama or situations like this. They all act like they care in those times only.
>>13808075
That's literally not how investment works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13808116
that's what happens when you join a failing agency like nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>13808302
fag. gay boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804752
Fuck off you dumb nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>13808302
Cover = Hololive & Holostars (same CEO)
Anycolor = Nijisanji & Yumenographia (same CEO)
Meta = Facebook (same CEO)
as long as they have the same CEO these terms are interchangeable

[Anonymous No.]

>>13808302
>you wouldn't be blaming hololive if holostars was closed
shitposters would 100% do it, and it would be the same shitposters as the ones in this very thread.
just let it go anon, something else will happen and /vt/'s bait meta will switch again. don't waste your energy and time, go look for cute fanarts of your oshi instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13806830
*sow

[Anonymous No.]

>>13808302
nijjiniggers already blame hololive for everything under the sun, including their own failures like nijiEN not being more popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>13808407
As I said, blame Anycolor or Riku and the executives then. If it didn't happen in Nijisanji, it shouldn't be about Nijisanji. That's my point.
>>13808419
And if they did, I would fight against them as well. I'm not going to blame hololive for things htat happen with holostars, I'll blame cover instead.
>>13808457
Huh, I'm on both sides of the fanbase and if anything it's holo fans on here that use nijifags against everything. Aloe? nijisanji fans. Cover getting copyright striked? Nijisanji. Nkdice? Nijisanji.
There is some problems between nijisanji and hololive fnas but they aren't the same thing at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13808424
sew*

[Anonymous No.]

>>13808644
Holostars is under Hololive, retard.
>Aloe? nijisanji fans
This is true.
>Cover getting copyright striked? Nijisanji
Also true.
>Nkdice? Nijisanji
Stop making rrats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804767
seethe more bootlicker

[Anonymous No.]

>>13802915
sasuga black company

[Anonymous No.]

>>13803164
sadly yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>13804503
holy bootlicker, literally kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>10240617
Roru, rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>13809282
>>10240737
TOP FUCKING KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>13809065
Hololive Production and Hololive are different things anon, jesus. Holopro is just the merger of the three (Holo, Holostars, INNK) into one, which makes it even more obvious that they are below cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13809282
Nijiniggers live in an alternate reality where Nijisanji is DA BEST

[Anonymous No.]

yaraon was slow this time
http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/209198

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805966
It works because people are already attached to those vtubers. Yumenographia had 3 big problems.
1. People had no existing attachment to the girls, but were also unlikely to use the app without that attachment (as opposed to the kind of person who goes to a hostess club they've never been to, who's more likely to go "I'm already here and she's cute, sure")
2. The audience was limited to people with VR headsets, which I think everyone knows is tiny.
3. People would only go for their favorites and just exit the app if she's taken as opposed to (similar to #1) going "My favorite's taken, but this one will work"
It was a neat idea, but it's easy to see why it was unprofitable and, more importantly, was likely to ever BECOME profitable. Which is the same situation as NijiIN, btw.
They weren't just underperforming, the audience never existed. It was small enough that they had to make one of the managers become a vtuber after all, that shit was never going to pay off. Hence the attempted rebrand, and also why they haven't closed KR. At least the Korean audience exists at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13808936
*SAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>13809282
>>13809420
This wasn't actually nijiniggers fault. Riku and Nijisanji released a statement before that Yumenographia was doing well and the fans bought it, but apparently now it wasn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13805966
>>13809735 (Me)
Oh, also: They DID market them. They had a few livers, and also Subaru iirc, stream themselves using it (like Ange's infamous stream where she constantly spilled spaghetti). If that wasn't enough to get people to check it out it was, unfortunately, doomed from the start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13809735
price of a ticket vs just watching a stream on youtube for free

[Anonymous No.]

>>13809735
>They weren't just underperforming, the audience never existed.
They said the same thing to EN and KR markets but we know that it's a complete lie. Anycolor is just incompetently run. Any of their projects outside of Niji man branch were flops.

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>>13809735
Desu it would probably work better as actual virtual club you can enter in VR

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>>13804260
Even Holostars at their worst (just after the debut of gen 1) still pulled around 20-30 viewers on average anon

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>>13802734
Are they even eligible for unemployment insurance? To get fired just like that without three months notice is just wrong especially during pandemic.

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>>13809917
No, they didn't, what the fuck are you talking about? The fact you think overseas branches are flops just shows how misguided you are. The only failure was NijiIN.

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>>13809861
I watched the translated Ange video of that and still had no idea they were under Ichikara/Anycolor. Thought they were just some random VRChat people.

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>>13810080
lol

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>>13809917
Ok, but the EN and KR markets DO actually exist, people were just skeptical they were large enough to matter.
The IN market just outright does not. Like, people barely know what anime is over there. Again, they could barely get 2 people past auditions and had to shove a manager into it, that's how bad it was.
And similarly with Yumenographia, the market of people who want A hostess, but not a IRL hostess, AND own a VR headset is just extremely tiny. I don't think either case is comparable to "Well, I don't know if this can work, but it might"
And also no, they didn't flop lol. EN's 1-2k average views for most members is INSANELY good for streamers if your sense for numbers aren't warped by Hololive, and while ID isn't huge they're decent for the market and get a LOT of sponserships. Both are fine. KR's the worst off, but even then knowing the KR audience kind of hates vtubers, they're doing alright.

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>>13810051
Probably, yeah. Just a VR chat type place you could go with friends with the bonus of hiring hostesses. Especially if, like VR chat, you didn't ACTUALLY need a headset for it, it just helps.

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>>13809735
here you have a person that actually know what yumenographia was and isn't in here just for drama and shitposting console war bs.

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>>13810178
>The IN market just outright does not.
No, we don't know that. Nijisanji was never the barometer for success especially for the foreign branches. They always play the third fiddle whether it be ID, CH, EN, or KR.

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>>13804115
I don't know how "Pomu is the only white woman" warped into "Pomu is the only native English speaker", but that's just untrue. And even then, she's NOT the only white woman anymore.

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>>13806195
The academy is a training program. Them "firing" people would be like a college "firing" people, the whole point is that they're only there for a few months and then may or may not join Nijisanji proper at the end.
Literal worst case scenario they decided the first group didn't work out and they close the program instead of taking new applicants in the future.

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>>13803234
Too bad that the AnyColor bootlickers are quick to disown anyone that gets disassociated from AnyColor. They won't even acknowledge their streams. Toxic behaviors among their livers are also prevalent among their fans.

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virtual hostess club sounds like a great idea for otaku who don't want to interact with real women at real hostess club and prefer anime designs
maybe this can work out with some fine tuning, especially considering people are more and more online these days

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>>13808302
>Stream was only a hobby for a few of them
29 out 51 is a bit higher than "a few"

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>>13810301
I'm not basing it on NijiIN failing, I'm basing it on the few actual IN fans I've interacted with all saying "Yeah, people barely know what Anime is here, much less vtubers. Even owning a computer so they could watch streams is rare. It was never gonna happen."

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>>13803234
>>13811048
Fuck off. The majority of them didn't stream at all or even have youtube channels. Is Sodapoppin a vtuber?

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>>13811134
it's still fairly low for the way you guys talked..
>>13811048
You talk as if the same isn't done about cover on every platform. You guys excuse them for HoloCN to this day, or about Mel's manager situation.

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It's so strange to me that people are acting outraged in this thread. Like, yeah it sucks that they were all terminated, but you guys know this was at most a part time job for them, right? This wasn't their primary income. No one will end up on the street because of this. They'll just have a bit less pocket money.

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>>13811159
>The majority of them didn't stream at all
See >>13808079 , your math is off. 29 out of 51 is a majority.

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>>13811059
Yeah, on paper it makes sense. Hence why they tried it at all. But I think it just can't work out logistically, or if it can Yumenographia was just too early. Maybe when VR is more ubiquitous, but not now.

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>>13809784
It was their fault, they trusted Nijisanji.

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>>13811263
29 had youtube channels but the majority weren't frequent streamers. They just did as an occasional side thing like Sodapoppin.

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>>13811263
Anon most of them had the activity of Gilzaren... their main activity was the cabaret thing. When we say it was a hobby, we mean that, not in like nijisanji where their main thing is streaming but there's members who treat it as a hobby or side job.

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>>13809065
>Aloe? nijisanji fans
>This is true.
>Cover getting copyright striked? Nijisanji
>Also true.
I swear we're stuck in a time loop.

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>>13812125
I can live with people blaming Nijifans for the holocaust, but even just being a very casual triangle fag the Aloe mentions piss me off so much.

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>>13812209
Nijischizos were doxxing and harassing her home line which pissed off her abusive dad.

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>>13811256
Everything is a part time job right? Don’t blame Anycolor that their talents don’t make enough to live off of lol

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>>13811263
some of them indeed stream a lot like hijiri but they usually use their channel for collab or playing games together. heck one of them only stream 3 times in span of 1,5 year

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>>13812449
if you sign up to pretend to be an anime girl on video and immediately quit your day job expecting to make enough money to survive you're retarded beyond what any company can control kek

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>>13807443
>What yagoo could possibly done for them? Their country is against cover.
He didn't have to rush them out the door just because Artia went menhera and got her Gen 2 mates+Civia to join in her self-destruction

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>>13812449
I mean... Yes?
I don't blame Cover for the period of time when their idols didn't make full time pay either.
And please, don't tell me you thought their salary was high enough for that. I was there for the PPT shirt, I know very well that it's small and if they want to live on it they need superchat revenue.

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>>13812324
False. It was actually me.

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>>13812324
I won't deny that there were some shitty nijifags there, but erasing the holofags who were happy to harass her because of the sex tweets and the vtuber antis/general shitheads who attack anyone who looks weak is just dishonest. As is trying to pin the blame on that over the fact that she, you know, HAD an abusive dad at all, or her own mental state. There's a ton of things going on, and trying to cut it down to "Nijifags harassed her so she graduated" is just using the poor girl for tribalist shitflinging.
But you already knew that, I'm sure.

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>>13803467
kek, nijiniggers said the sam e thing about holostars

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>>13811048
Oh honestly, nijis themselves aren't nearly as retarded with this shit as the niji fanbase

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>>13811312
Personally I think they just fucked up on execution and advertising
The club being physical location with automated food serving and rented headsets could work until VR is more common for example, or just going full VRChat, possibly literally, just renting out tickets was stupid idea

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>>13814117
Yeah, the way I would've done it was a higher quality VR chat. The physical location thing wouldn't be a bad idea either honestly. I'd imagine getting drunk is part of the idea with Hostess clubs, or at least social drinking.

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>>13813303
No one cared about sex psot or bf apart from those fuckers who wanted rally people against her.

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>>13814451
>apart from those fuckers who wanted rally people against her.
...Yes? That wasn't meant to suggest all Holofags were part of that, just that a good amount of the portion of her harassment was coming from Holofags who DID hate her.
Unless you're suggesting no idolfags out there would be upset about those things, but that's insane.

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>>13802975
The differents between a familly based corpo and a black company

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>>13811506
Damn, 2views who don't stream much are not qualified to be called vtubers. Nijifans are very harsh.