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/#/ - Numbers thread Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:11:53 2021 No.13642809 [Reply] [Original]

Previously on numbers
>>13622333

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:13:51 2021 No.13642905

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:14:31 2021 No.13642930 >>13642809 >just now watch the debut stream >check holostats >167k+ ccv what in the world

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:17:28 2021 No.13643039 >>13642714 When mass graduation from nijisanji?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:17:28 2021 No.13643040 >>13642930 yeah, it was a new record

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:18:27 2021 No.13643075 >>13642930 Check the subs, she has more than twice what any council had on their first day.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:19:23 2021 No.13643118

Well today's initial debut of Gen6 has done something that hasn't happened in weeks, all fellow Holos got an across the board ~2k boost to their subscribers regardless if they streamed or not.

Alot of new fans brought in today for first time in quite awhile.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:19:41 2021 No.13643130 >>13643039 Not soon enough. Quality > Quantity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:20:03 2021 No.13643145 >>13643075 tbf council got fucked over multiple times, but yeah

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:20:54 2021 No.13643181 >>13643118 Holo seriously cultivated a sub to everyone mindset huh?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:21:22 2021 No.13643199 >>13643130 There's a reason they still shit out chubbas, since fans would gobble down their merch regardless. Their scouting also sucks so they spam waves in hope to get someone actually good at streaming. >>13643181 That's box pushing for you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:21:57 2021 No.13643217 >>13643145 No, she has more than twice what they had even before the pruning.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:22:25 2021 No.13643233 >>13643181 UNITY LOVE

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:22:41 2021 No.13643244 >>13643130 Make it soon, reduce the quantity for better quality. Remove failures in niji.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:24:11 2021 No.13643296 >>13643118 And I think this happens the same for twitter following too, many holos experienced with at least 3k follower boost no matter what.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:25:38 2021 No.13643345 >>13643181 Hololive has that "family" feeling, they do well when everyone is doing well, but the second a single graduation happens everyone loses thousands upon thousands of subs because it breaks that feeling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:27:47 2021 No.13643414 >>13643199 You don't need someone good at streaming, you need someone that's interesting. Streaming skills can be picked up by the chuuba as they work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:28:08 2021 No.13643430 >>13642930 1.1M debut vod.. too strong

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:30:49 2021 No.13643518 >>13643199 >merch i wish there's a way to know the detailed sales number, i dont believe low performer talent make money that much for Niji in merch department

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:31:53 2021 No.13643554 >Subaru 21k. It seems like many people wants to know her reaction to the gen 6.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:33:27 2021 No.13643609 >>13643554 Doesn't she usually get these numbers for her weekend morning talks

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:34:42 2021 No.13643648 >>13643609 ~17k peaks for her talk streams usually. anything at 20k+ is buffed in some way usually.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:35:28 2021 No.13643671 >>13643554 The clip of her talking about her fellow bird is going to do numbers

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:36:36 2021 No.13643706

>>13643145
La+ has the same boost IRyS got, except that IRyS's model kinda f'd her whereas La+ got buffed for having a paired bonus (Voice+Personality matching smug loli model).
And now all of HoloX is getting sub-culled by Susan. She's comin' for their subs and she wont' be happy until they're all culled MULTIPLE times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:37:06 2021 No.13643720 >>13643671 She's also reacting to cringy tweets she made. There will be many clips of this and It's inclining to 23k

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:38:48 2021 No.13643766 >>13643075 because council got their subs taken from them. Twice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:39:08 2021 No.13643779 >>13643706 Imagine if IRyS debuted as a loli like her previous avatar Redjuice really did her dirty

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:40:22 2021 No.13643823 >>13643766 see>>13643217

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:40:24 2021 No.13643824 File: 158 KB, 1563x1009, culling.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13643706 From a previous thread. We could have had Sana at 240k in the first week...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:42:24 2021 No.13643890 >>13643766 No one in Council would've gotten to 200k within 12 hours , it took them a day to pass 100k and they didn't get culled until after that.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:43:48 2021 No.13643940

>>13643823
11+ times.
Susan culled their subs 11 FUCKING times.
11.
Let that sink in. Susan's shitty-ass fucking anti-bot detection got so riled up that council has 11 fucking drops to their subs in that graph alone. Just.
What.
The.
Fuck.
I knew it was bad, I didn't realize just how many goddamn times they got hit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:44:29 2021 No.13643972 >>13643940 Read the post right above you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:45:09 2021 No.13644001 >>13643671 You know that reminds me. Are other Nijisanji members excited when a new wave debuts? Something Hololive does is that some of the talents get hyped up about the new debuts and then those clips get high traffic.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:45:29 2021 No.13644014
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>>13643145
Omega is a retard. He should've have uploaded a short clip on each channel before debut so this didn't happen. EN2 is permanently stunted because of this. To put this in perspective if the same cull happened to Gura then she'd be at less than 2 million subs today, the difference it makes is absolutely massive.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:45:39 2021 No.13644027

Man, even Holo Gen 6 is now helping to boost the entire Hololive. I hope this is a lesson to HoloEN on how to build a better gen, not whatever the failed stuff they're doing right now. So embarrassing for a branch catering to a majority of people living on Earth.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:47:00 2021 No.13644073

>>13643972
Even if she got a huge boost in subs compared to them, getting subs culled that much by YT is pretty fucking bad during debut.
JP was smart to drop them and hit debuts ASAP to hopefully dodge this bullshit once everyone's got vids on their channels.
Like, La+ is going to come out ahead both because of timing and because holy moly the hype, but her sub numbers are almost certainly gonna end up looking fucky like >>13643824

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:47:16 2021 No.13644083 >>13644027 en schizo take your meds pls

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:47:19 2021 No.13644087 >>13644027 >Man, even Holo Gen 6 is now helping to boost the entire Hololive. That happened with council too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:47:28 2021 No.13644091 >>13643972 Read your own ugly face

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:48:34 2021 No.13644133 Is Chloe going to join umisea?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:48:39 2021 No.13644141 >>13644014 I wonder why Irys didn't get culled as hard

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:48:47 2021 No.13644144

>>13643890
They're not comparable because Laplus had her debut on the same day her channel was revealed. You'd need to combine the parts of the graph that show the channel reveal and the debut day for EN2 to compare them properly and you can clearly see the incline on the debut day is on par with Laplus if not greater considering the culls in between the two dates

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:49:04 2021 No.13644154 >>13644087 Council did not attract shit, they languish in their own pathetic performance that even other HoloEN can't save.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:50:00 2021 No.13644190 >>13644141 Her real last name is Wojcicki.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:50:50 2021 No.13644219 >>13644185 Damn. Doesn't that thing cost like 400 bucks too?

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:51:18 2021 No.13644239

>>13644141
She didn't get culled much at all.
IRyS was before the August Update this year, which is when the sub-culling 'feature' was added. You can check the archives, there are even small channels that got fucked over and were complaining to YT who said 'lol we don't cull subs what are you talking about'.
Fucking Youtube.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:51:27 2021 No.13644244 >>13644144 >can clearly see Laplus hit 100k hours before her debut. Sorry, but this is sounding like actual cope.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:51:31 2021 No.13644247 >>13644154 >Council did not attract shit Well it attracted your schizophrenia, council now lives rent free in your head. That's an achievement right there.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:51:51 2021 No.13644258

>>13644001
Yes, they were pretty excited, we just don't get many translated clips and few people watch zatsus around here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgAusZVygi0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NTLTMd_0NY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHXPWiSm2_Y

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:55:13 2021 No.13644378 >>13644244 Because more people were visiting the channel since she had a stream that day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:55:27 2021 No.13644387 >>13644258 >They all show so much potential Kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:56:27 2021 No.13644419 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcBNyGqr5zE 12k possible?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:56:49 2021 No.13644442 >>13644378 Cope harder councilnigger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:57:52 2021 No.13644472 I feel like Subaru is getting 3-4k more than usual. New gen bringing tourists and jaded fans back. Let's see how long they stay this time

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:57:55 2021 No.13644477

Hololive

------------------------------ 2018

gen 0
Miko 2018/08/28 150
Suisei 2018/06/21 143

gen 2
Aqua 2018/08/08 ~1,500
Shion 2018/08/17 1,502
Ayame 2018/09/03 2,622
Choco 2018/09/04 1,882
Subaru 2018/09/16 1,347

------------------------------ 2019

gen 3
Pekora 2019/07/17 5,349
Rushia 2019/07/18 6,199
Flare 2019/08/07 5,092
Noel 2019/08/08 10,218
Marine 2019/08/11 7,506

gen 4
Kanata 2019/12/27 14,866
Coco 2019/12/28 11,052
Watame 2019/12/29 13,980

------------------------------ 2020

Towa 2020/01/03 17,552
Luna 2020/01/04 17,065

gen 5
Lamy 2020/08/12 103,348
Nene 2020/08/13 80,034
Botan 2020/08/14 112,925
Aloe 2020/08/15 83,819
Polka 2020/08/16 97,658

------------------------------ 2021 (post-spamview)

gen 6
Laplus 2021/11/26 167,584

Hololive English

------------------------------ 2020

Myth Debut: 2020/09/12~13
Calliope - 67,743
Kiara - 70,190
Inanis - 71,061
Gura - 79,035
Amelia - 68,265

------------------------------ 2021 (post-spamview)

Hope Debut: 2021/07/11
Irys - 91,280

Council Debut: 2021/08/23
Sana - 85,105
Fauna - 94,206
Kronii - 94,966
Mumei - 93,128
Baelz - 92,998

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:58:08 2021 No.13644482 >>13644419 If she invites someone, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:58:13 2021 No.13644484 >>13644419 Too much overlap. She doesn't have many streams these days where she's not overlapped by bigger streamers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 01:59:40 2021 No.13644532 Fauna has literally only 2k people watching her asmr stream. How do we save council?

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:00:03 2021 No.13644538

I sure hope the new variant coof doesn't get nations into lockdown again. Imagine Hololive getting another one month boom next year with JP 6. If Yagoo's magic is truly real, the coof got to Japan, everyone locking down for a month and experience Hololive again while Niji's two day concert got canceled.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:00:15 2021 No.13644543 >>13644477 The jump from each JP gen is beautiful

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:02:05 2021 No.13644604 >>13644532 7.4k

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:02:12 2021 No.13644607 >>13644477 >Towa 2020/01/03 17,552 >Luna 2020/01/04 17,065 >Kanata 2019/12/27 14,866 >Watame 2019/12/29 13,980 >Coco 2019/12/28 11,052 What went wrong with Towa and Luna?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:02:22 2021 No.13644615 >>13644477 The jump from gen4 to 5 is insane.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:02:27 2021 No.13644618

>>13644532
We don't. They all fucked up by taking it way too easy and thinking they had it made when they joined Hololive. No regular schedules, not playing the flavor of the month games, taking extended breaks in their first fucking month, they failed to numberfag properly and are paying the price.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:02:32 2021 No.13644624 >13644532 Buddy, there are several bait threads in the catalogue right now, could you, at the very fucking least, NOT post blatant lies? Like, this doesn't even need 10 seconds of time to check this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:02:37 2021 No.13644631 >>13644378 And Council had a concerted campaign asking people to wait until the actual debut to sub to them, so >on par with Laplus if not greater considering the culls in between the two dates is entirely an assumption on your end.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:04:01 2021 No.13644686 >>13644607 Towa had her big yab. I dunno about Luna, maybe people didn't like her baby voice?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:04:24 2021 No.13644698 >>13644477 Asacoco really did a lot to build up more hype for Towa and Luna didn't it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:05:07 2021 No.13644732 >>13644419 Doubt. She will be sharing the timeslot with subaru's yakuza 0 and pekora pokemon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:05:45 2021 No.13644758 File: 127 KB, 974x197, image_2021-11-27_040525.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13644532 Did you not refresh anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:06:24 2021 No.13644784 Thanks for the (you) lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:06:41 2021 No.13644799 >>13644631 >And Council had a concerted campaign asking people to wait until the actual debut to sub to them That's a new cope. Please elaborate.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:07:02 2021 No.13644813

>>13644631
How is that an assumption? You can literally see the curve of the graph on debut day here: >>13643824

How is it unreasonable to say that if you moved it down to the same day the channel would be revealed that it would be even steeper because then it would be combining the early adopters, the ones who immediately went and subbed to each channel with the ones who were waiting for an actual stream. That's exactly what happened with Laplus so I'm confused about why you think it's some kind of massive leap of logic to say that if EN2 debuted on the day they were revealed you could simply combine the first day subs with the ones who subbed on debut day?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:07:47 2021 No.13644847 >>13644538 Variants are "found" in order to do a lockdown, there is no hope.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:07:50 2021 No.13644854 >>13644799 >That's a new cope At this point I think we should start a list of Councilcopes, they are getting to nijifags level of delusion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:08:06 2021 No.13644866 >>13644538 holy shit, Nu variant is more Yagoo black magic

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:08:09 2021 No.13644870

>>13644686
No, they did not like her baby voice.
or her tantrums, baby speak, etc
People were filtered hard, but those who got through appreciated the trolling.
She also used to have almost as big an Eop% as early Towa and they grew their JP audience at different times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:09:38 2021 No.13644930 File: 61 KB, 1096x545, 1621454721026.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this will go on for another month. do something anycolor, don't just roll over and die

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:09:45 2021 No.13644940 >>13644607 Towa filtered with her deep sexy voice and the Yabee incident. Luna filtered people with her baby voice and general act.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:10:32 2021 No.13644989 >>13644618 Rrat: council's breaks are just the other 4 pulling a unity move for Sana.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:14:10 2021 No.13645140 I guess it will be EN vs JP all over again during this last week of November. And if Pekora fails to get 30k in her Pokemon stream then Hololive JP vs Hololive JP will also flood the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:14:10 2021 No.13645141 >>13644930 I can't wait for next month's top 50 chuubas to be 85% hololive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:17:12 2021 No.13645268 >>13644930 Is it possible that Anykara know they can't compete in terms of quality so they went for quantity instead?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:17:53 2021 No.13645303 >>13644686 Most people nowadays don't know about her yab. The main reason is her voice. It doesn't fit with her character design. Towa was the most popular gen4 member pre-debut.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:19:20 2021 No.13645363 >>13645140 Probably JP vs HoloX for the most part, since most intra-holo timeloops revolve around CCV EN doesn't have insane CCV nowadays apart from very special events and even then, those peaks aren't much compared to a standard Gen 3 collab.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:19:22 2021 No.13645365

>>13645140
It might be time we actually have to compare to live action streamers.
At least once a day, measure up where the top streams would sit compared to the day's Twitch streams.
No YT stuff, because it's mostly just company premieres, very few full-time streamers towards the top.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:19:35 2021 No.13645379 File: 1.08 MB, 260x268, towa.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Her avatar is freaking cute, but her voice...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:19:39 2021 No.13645381 >>13645303 Weird, I think her design is the worst in Hololive.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:19:47 2021 No.13645390

>>13645268
Their approach from the beginning was to aim to saturate the market by filling in various niches. Nothing wrong with the approach if you're in there early, but it does limit what you can do in the future, and well uh...
Look, NO one could have predicted that Hololive would blow up the way it did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:20:03 2021 No.13645399 >>13645268 No. They were spamming waves when they were the number 1 company.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:21:03 2021 No.13645437

>>13644813
>Council were severely culled, people keep getting unsubbed
>if we add together the first day subs and debut day subs we'll have the exact number of how many subs Council would've gotten if they debuted on the same day they were revealed
1) If people who were unsubbed by Youtube on the first day subbed again on debut, you're counting them twice
2) "First day subs" & "Debut day subs": you're adding together two days' worth of subs, not one
3) The steepest curve happens during the debut itself, extrapolating it so that it happens right from the very start (which is what it would take for Council to get an incline greater than IRyS or Laplus) is wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:21:20 2021 No.13645450 >>13645379 ... Pure sex

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:21:52 2021 No.13645466 >>13645379 Good avatar but not befitting. Should have been more tomboy-ish. >>13645381 Filtered by the piercings and punk-like outfit? Same here a year ago, you'll come to realize how good it actually is soon enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:22:29 2021 No.13645489 >>13644989 My brain lagged a bit while reading this reply because Bae (rat) is going to take a brake. I initially thought it was a quote from Bae about her break lol

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:22:43 2021 No.13645503
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>>13645399
That was one of the many things Hololive learned from Nijisanji.
- don't spam vtubers too fast, because all that does is split up the audience and no one is happy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:22:53 2021 No.13645510 >>13645379 Sorry for your faggotness anon, I hope it's not terminal

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:22:56 2021 No.13645516 >>13644799 If you paid any attention to social media outside of 4chan you'd see people telling others to hold off on subbing because of all the culling going on.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:23:23 2021 No.13645529

>>13645437
>If people who were unsubbed by Youtube on the first day subbed again on debut, you're counting them twice
Very unlikely. Council are still well behind what they should have been, meaning that the majority of culls simply never bothered to sub again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:23:44 2021 No.13645543 >>13645381 Worst than Sana?

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:23:57 2021 No.13645557

>>13645437
True true, but due to the difference in circumstances, we're trying to compare apples to oranges. IMO, EN management fucked up with their weird-ass fucking drawn out debut method. Clearly this stealth-drop and hit the ground running strat should be adopted for any future EN Gens, if EN management isn't fucktarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:24:14 2021 No.13645569 >>13645503 >that wasteland in the middle Nijifans, what happened here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:24:56 2021 No.13645608 File: 173 KB, 1920x1080, Aem2qbL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13645381 KEK. Filtered by pure SEX

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:25:31 2021 No.13645630 In the meantime >≪INUYASHA KARAOKE≫ The Time Has Come. >10k get for Bae https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbiHGbvt0DI

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:26:10 2021 No.13645668 Realistically, what kind of stream would it take for Coco's graduation to be surpassed?

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:26:13 2021 No.13645671

>>13645437
>"First day subs" & "Debut day subs": you're adding together two days' worth of subs, not one
Yes because if Council had debuted on the same day as they were revealed then the people who subbed over those days would have all subbed on the same day instead. That's how it works. The people who were waiting for a stream to sub would have subbed on the day of reveal if it was the same day of the stream. Nothing unreasonable about that.

>extrapolating it so that it happens right from the very start
Never did that. If you do it on an hour by hour basis and normalise it so you match up Councils debut with Laplus' schedule then Council comes out ahead without the culls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:26:37 2021 No.13645693 >>13645668 Pekora's graduation stream.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:26:44 2021 No.13645700 >>13645608 Please understand anon, their main audience is Japanese, who don't even like Rushia and Matsuri's deeper normal voices. Why do you think Suisei was so scared of her voice change?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:26:52 2021 No.13645707 >>13645668 I don't think it's possible

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:27:04 2021 No.13645713 >>13645630 >ARCHIVED

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:27:07 2021 No.13645716

>>13632513
She's actually talented compared to Mahiro and only have low viewers because of her breaks related to health. Levi also have low viewers and managed to pull through with her 3D so I expect some flute performance and maybe rhythm games in Eli's 3d.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:27:57 2021 No.13645758 >>13645390 >NO one could have predicted that Hololive would blow up the way it did. that is ver fair

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:28:02 2021 No.13645762

>>13645529
>well behind what they should have been
Sure, and I can also claim that they only used up their debut buff subs boost slower than they would have with exactly the same amount of evidence that you can offer. No one knows what their sub rate would have been without the culls, that's crystal ball territory.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:28:06 2021 No.13645767 >>13645668 HoloEN Collab with dreamsmp

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:28:28 2021 No.13645790 >>13645668 Coco and Aloe appearing in the big concert. I dunno which concert, but have it be only on YT and with everyone in it and hint at a surprise guest return, but not at both.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:28:40 2021 No.13645800 >>13645630 Her voice is more ""soft"" than usual while speaking

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:29:08 2021 No.13645818 why is there no nijiEN streaming right now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:29:21 2021 No.13645829 >>13645762 HATE SUSAN HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE We're forced to fumble around with shitty CCV nonsense and now we also have to content with bullshit subculling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:29:28 2021 No.13645835 >>13645671 If subs worked that way then Council would have double the amount of actual live viewers had they debuted on the same day as they were revealed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:30:49 2021 No.13645896 >>13645767 Can dream and his crew even pull those numbers? I've seen 200k from them but I don't think it'd get much higher. >>13645790 I feel like making it a surprise would nerf the live viewers. Of course the VOD would explode as people realize

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:31:19 2021 No.13645919 >>13645693 Pekora isn't as loved as Coco was by the english audience

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:31:42 2021 No.13645935 File: 444 KB, 1349x681, the change.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It happened.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:33:05 2021 No.13646006 >>13645896 >>Can dream and his crew even pull those numbers? Are you joking? The top 10 most viewed youtube streams ever have at least 2 places from there, one from Technoblade with 900+k and another from Dream with 700+k.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:33:22 2021 No.13646022 >>13645829 don't forget the vod views culling. >>13632200

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:33:36 2021 No.13646034 >>13645818 Avoiding Thanksgiving debuff?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:34:06 2021 No.13646062 >>13645935 Finally, the whore has been surpassed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:34:33 2021 No.13646080 >>13646006 Oh damn ok. I don't know anything about him except he cheated at speedrunning and I see him on the front page of youtube sometimes.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:35:26 2021 No.13646125

>>13645835
You can only watch a stream within a specified time period, you can sub to a channel at any point. Your logic doesn't follow. If you could tune into a stream at any point during a week and watch it then it would stand to reason that the CCV for that stream would be spread out rather than everyone tuning in at the same time, that's how subs work but it's not how CCV works.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:35:33 2021 No.13646130

>>13645671
>If you do it on an hour by hour basis and normalise it so you match up Councils debut with Laplus' schedule then Council comes out ahead without the culls
You could just put out those normalised numbers for everyone to check the math, y'know, that'd end the argument real quick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:37:06 2021 No.13646203 File: 118 KB, 666x824, image_2021-11-27_043621.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13646006 Yep, there they are. With this i found out MrBeast had a +1 million live views stream too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:37:41 2021 No.13646229 >>13645800 She is using a different mic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:39:08 2021 No.13646298 damn I miss calculated, I thought gen6 debut will breed gen6 schizo, turns out it breed councilfags lmao Lui at 1.1k btw

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:39:37 2021 No.13646320 >>13645935 The goddess of the wallet.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:40:14 2021 No.13646345

>>13645935
Realistically, Coco is closer to if not way past 3.5 million$ in SC, considering Free Chat, post stream end and Member stream donations.
I don't think we ever got a real number, but estimates were over 100k$ for the Free Chat in the first few hours after her graduation stream.

Rushia should be well over 3 million as well.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:41:31 2021 No.13646401

>>13646125
Except you can't sub to a channel at any point, you can only do it when your personal circumstances allow you to do so. You're making the assumption that day one subs and debut subs are entirely different populations when there are bound to be people who will not notice until a few days later, people who aren't aware of a new debut because it takes time for word of mouth to spread, people who are unable to sub on one particular day but can on others, and people who were unsubbed on day one but came back to sub for the debut. Just saying "nah we can add it all together it's fine because Council will look BIGGER" is sloppy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:41:35 2021 No.13646406 >>13644870 didn't she get a bunch of harassment from nijis at the start of her holo tenure as well because of her history? i'd take it 10/10 times tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:41:46 2021 No.13646422 File: 17 KB, 614x360, prov_wmn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Women Streamer 2021 >Provisional >src: twitchtracker, holo_data, quarter report for Rae

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:41:55 2021 No.13646430 >>13645668 Gura with Jerma

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:42:26 2021 No.13646459 File: 67 KB, 1000x360, Millie clickbait.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Millie knows how to clickbait

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:42:31 2021 No.13646463 How soon do you think we will get a closure of HoloEN branch?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:42:37 2021 No.13646466 >>13646298 Councilfags are in denial over their oshi being mogged so fucking hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:42:48 2021 No.13646476 >>13646298 Don't worry. We still have 4 debuts left to create some schizos

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:43:35 2021 No.13646509 File: 785 KB, 820x1465, 1637074123044.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13646459 big hat big brain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:43:54 2021 No.13646528 >>13646422 can peko do it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:44:51 2021 No.13646577 >>13646422 what? valkyrae didn't stream for 2 months??

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:45:06 2021 No.13646590 Millie is mogging Selen..

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:45:15 2021 No.13646596 >>13646466 Kek seeing Council fails is so satifying, like who would have thought that a branch made for such a fickle market would turn out like this. Cover should have never fired their Chinese associate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:45:20 2021 No.13646599 >>13645268 Nothing wrong with that, it is still a valid strategy to spam waves in hope of getting SSR recruit. It's just the other company is way more lucky with getting SSR.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:45:21 2021 No.13646602 >>13646528 Amouranth will get a month or two long ban eventually so yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:45:45 2021 No.13646624 >>13646528 No. Amouranth basically rigs this race by rebroadcasting shit and it counting according to this metric. It's basically impossible for Pekora unless she started to pull xQc levels of hours or suddenly gets a MASSIVE increase in average CCV.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:45:58 2021 No.13646638 >>13646459 Wow after Petra breaking the 7k ceiling Now nijien is on the incline? HoloEN bros better watch out

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:46:45 2021 No.13646667 Samefagging as a council anti doesn't make you cool, you faggotschizo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:46:56 2021 No.13646672 >>13646599 It has little to do with luck, it's all about having a good scouting team.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:47:15 2021 No.13646690 >>13646599 Cover pulled the meta SSRs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:47:33 2021 No.13646703 >>13646596 Council is doing way better than HoloCN though. >>13646599 I refuse to think that among so many successful chubbas in Holo most of them was down to luck of all things

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:47:46 2021 No.13646717 >>13646577 no tool for it, she's definitely #2 this year if Stream Hatchet won't revise their retardation

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:47:49 2021 No.13646722 File: 12 KB, 80x80, 1617410683023.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13646624 new outfit plus hype event onegai

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:48:44 2021 No.13646770

>>13646624
If Youtube ever makes its Live Discover features actually usable, Pekora will be at the top a lot and random people will tune in, like on Twitch.
That should boost to over 50k regularly.
But YT international and US clearly doesn't care about Vtubers, instead they're spending tens of millions of dollars to bring in Twitch streamers, so that won't happen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:49:20 2021 No.13646799 >>13645668 Gen 3 lesbian sex ASMR

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:50:28 2021 No.13646843 >>13645935 Aqua... please stream Aqua... sob...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:50:36 2021 No.13646850 File: 21 KB, 634x77, 123af.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Typical nijiniggers ignoring low numbers

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:51:40 2021 No.13646908 >>13646599 >Pulling on regular day instead of only doing it on rateup events ngmi

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:52:03 2021 No.13646926 >>13646850 I guess all the viewers went to Millie's stream instead. Enna 449 Selen 1.34k

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:52:37 2021 No.13646958 >>13646599 Can it really be down to luck when they consistently get at least 1 break out star?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:53:30 2021 No.13647009 Im glad for bae pulling in some good numbers for once.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:53:38 2021 No.13647023 >>13646850 Still can't beat the 7-8k ceiling without an event or manjisanji carrying them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:53:40 2021 No.13647026 >>13646422 I demand Miko to stream 24/7 for the whole december

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:53:41 2021 No.13647028 >>13646599 Makes me wonder why Nijisanji can't hire better scouters if they've been struggling to make a star for almost 2 years.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:53:41 2021 No.13647030

>>13646672
Scouting team ensures they bring back A+ and higher ranked chubbas.
Luck and hidden passives send them to the moon thanks to Yagoo's hidden passive "SAVIORFAG EX". Truly, Yagoo is the king of saviorfags and puts the rest of the board to shame when it comes to saving 2views.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:53:47 2021 No.13647035 File: 37 KB, 621x154, 123af.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nice

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:57:00 2021 No.13647192

>>13646401
If Council debuted on the same day they were revealed their graph would be steeper because more people sub on the day of debut than reveal day, and the number of people who immediately subscribe would be mixed in with the people who only sub during the debut stream and directly afterward. This is simple, undeniable fact. You can quibble about HOW MUCH of a boost Council would have gotten but claiming we don't know WHETHER they would have gotten a boost is not true.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:57:37 2021 No.13647234

>>13646466
>>13646596
Well yeah Gen 6 had a much much better start than Council so far.

But Council is considered failure then what do you call NijiEN?
Pathetic Branch which can't still break 10k in collabs.
Slow and steady cope is the saddest thing to see considering they're average in the graphs keeps falling LMFAO

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 02:59:10 2021 No.13647306 >>13647234 >>But Council is considered failure then what do you call NijiEN? They are not even worth talking about.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:01:22 2021 No.13647407

>>13647028
Scouting is...
Well, look. It's not so easy to get someone who's good at scouting, much less manage to keep a hold of them for as long as Cover has managed to do so. Good scouting is NOT cheap, and the best ones are almost certainly already working in higher profile companies than Nijisanji or Cover. THAT is where they really got lucky. Think of it as re-rolling as F2P until you hit THE Meta unit, the one that can carry you to end-game and beyond. That is why you can't simply just 'hire better scouts' unless you're willing to throw a LOT of cash at it, and even then it's just one piece of the puzzle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:03:23 2021 No.13647487 >>13647407 how the fuck did Yagoo manage to hold on to his scouting team? I know he's part of it but it's still really impressive

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:03:35 2021 No.13647496 >>13647407 Niji absolutely does not have good scouts.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:04:01 2021 No.13647520

>>13647407
its obvious that whoever influences their scouting has personal ties to the company, and probably to Yagoo if it isn't Yagoo personally deciding the short list, else they'd have moved on to bigger things by now with the success they've had. Cover's scouting ability is legendary in the field.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:04:16 2021 No.13647526 >>13647487 Have you not heard about watamage anon kun?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:05:41 2021 No.13647592 >>13647526 Can't be Watamage's fault. The god like scouting was there long before Watamage debuted.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:06:06 2021 No.13647613

>>13647192
>You can quibble about HOW MUCH of a boost Council would have gotten but claiming we don't know WHETHER they would have gotten a boost is not true
But I've never questioned whether or not they would have gotten a boost, I'm questioning your assumption that you know exactly how much of a boost they would get.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:06:40 2021 No.13647637 >>13647487 He, A-chan and Sora most likely are in the scouting and interview team, so its really hard to leave them out unless there's a complete fallout on the company. As for the how, good intuition and luck are always a skill to have.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:07:58 2021 No.13647715 >>13647407 I wonder if the scouting team for Myth and Council is different.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:08:23 2021 No.13647733 I wonder where the faggots that one or two weeks ago said that the only reason council was doing badly was because the pandemic was over are?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:08:30 2021 No.13647743 I think it's just that the scouting team managed to find the right criterial to look for when finding potential recruits.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:09:18 2021 No.13647777

>>13647613
I never said we know exactly how much of a boost they'd get. I said even if I was to concede to you the most generous assumptions possible and say that 40,000 people on the reveal day were culled then resubbed on debut day, essentially doubling up then Council would still be on par or ahead of Laplus (except Sana). We don't know the EXACT boost but we do know that within the range of reasonable estimates Council would have easily been on par with Laplus had they done the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:09:53 2021 No.13647807 File: 958 KB, 1762x806, image_2021-11-27_050938.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13646459 Turns out she's actually showing questionable art and asking the audience to poll if it's SFW. Excellent engagement idea.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:12:02 2021 No.13647918

>>13647637
>A-chan and Sora
Sora didn't even know gen 6 was dropping let alone debut on the same day. A-chan's role is more of a creative director in the music department. The Hololive remixes were most likely conducted by her. That's why it's always only her on the thumbnails for those videos. The scouting team is probably so behind the scene personnels. Honestly, the less we hear about those guys, the better since that means they're doing their jobs really well.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:12:24 2021 No.13647939

Does anyone else think that behind that smiling, almost benevolent face of Yagoo lies a very sharp and intuitive brain? I mean, Yagoo strikes me as one of those Chinese old man in the Wuxia/Xanxia story, where a typical, non-harming person can be dangerous with a flick of a wrist.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:12:58 2021 No.13647961

>>13647715
Probably. Myth was likely picked with some help from the JP side if only because they were such a new branch with lack of staff.
Council was likely more en-side focused with the ones involved with scouting, and they likely were more focused on preventing yabs and money-grubbing more than getting "The BEST" talent, because let's be real, the EN side of vtubing is an absolute trashfire in the indie scene. Like, holy hell its a goddamn drama-filled clout-chasing nightmare. Trying to scout through that likely means they went with safer picks than they otherwise would be willing to go with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:14:03 2021 No.13648012 >>13647807 smart, this is the type of creative content nijien should pump out if they want to incline, not goddamn watchalongs. props to her and I'm saying this as a holofag

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:14:27 2021 No.13648028 All I know is that they need to fire whoever is the scouting team behind council.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:14:28 2021 No.13648032 >>13647733 A lot actually, I think anons here hate trolls, but to be honest, a lot of them admit that Council has been an utter failure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:14:35 2021 No.13648040 >>13646345 History only favors the winners, the losers forgotten. If it's not there on the board, then it's not relevant for the average person I guess. Rushia is top SC earner in the world now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:14:38 2021 No.13648045 >>13647715 Yes, same goes with ID 2 ID 1 was interviewed by yagoo iirc

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:15:24 2021 No.13648078 >>13647939 He was doing fucking VR ping pong and went ahead with Sora's dream of being a virtual idol. He was a nice guy before but who knows at this point. He could grow an ego if uncheck it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:15:31 2021 No.13648087 >>13648045 So did ID 2, Ollie even said that she told Yagoo that he needed her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:15:49 2021 No.13648105 >>13648012 I think NijiEN incline is on the making, they just need a 4th wave to come to solidify their position and kick HoloEN down a notch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:16:06 2021 No.13648118 >>13646717 Then how the hell did they got her numbers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:16:19 2021 No.13648127 >>13647961 the talents were probably chosen to better support myth like gen 5 to the other gens. they help gel everyone together and improve chemistry. it will help hololive as a whole in the long run. Cover really cares about their "big family" image

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:16:42 2021 No.13648144 I really doubt that nijien can do it, but I will laugh my ass off if they manage to surpass council. What a failure of a fucking generation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:16:48 2021 No.13648147 >>13648045 Ollie's second audition still interviewed by yagoo and the same staff from first audition.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:17:48 2021 No.13648183 >>13643345 If by that you mean like 1-2 from a few people with low growth rates, sure. It takes an act of god to get people to unsub from a youtuber in any meaningful amount.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:18:07 2021 No.13648203 >>13648127 A bunch of lazy fucks will help everyone in the long run?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:18:22 2021 No.13648220 >>13646422 >kkatamina Man, I despise the hours watched metric on top of twitch bullshittery on views. >48 hours streams

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:18:27 2021 No.13648226 Imagine if history repeats itself and HoloEN gen3 becomes the golden gen for EN. Council is already reminding me of HoloJP gen2 with all the breaks they take. I also believe that Baelz could become that EN Subaru.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:18:39 2021 No.13648236

>>13648105
eh, I'm not so sure since wave 4 is supposedly all-male, right? if so, that's a completely different market since most EN viewers see hololive as THE vtubing company and expect nijien to do the same. if they're gonna release more girls, they need to be more creative to stand out amongst their peers let alone hololive. it's gonna be hard considering en indie circle is pretty bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:18:46 2021 No.13648245 >>13648127 So maybe they are going to do mix with future EN I guess. EN1 with ambition, EN2 with support, and EN3 for ambition.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:18:48 2021 No.13648248 >>13648105 >rent free Start with vshojo

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:18:55 2021 No.13648254

>>13647777
Sure, let's look at the numbers if you still want to add them together.

Going by Holotracker, this is what it shows:

Ouro Kronii
Aug 16th to 17th - 82,400 in 24 hours
Aug 22nd to 23rd - 154,500 in 24 hours
154,500 + 82,400 = 236,900

Laplus Darkness
Nov 26th to Nov 27th - 306,000 in 24 hours.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:19:29 2021 No.13648289 >>13648183 Both Aloe and Coco graduation led to a lot of people unsubbing, I don't think that a single holo was positive on the day Coco's announced her graduation for example, it was a sea of red on holo poi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:20:58 2021 No.13648377 >>13647487 Yagoo IS the scout. https://youtu.be/v4ODQ8qOKus

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:21:15 2021 No.13648398

>>13648203
believe it or not, despite them taking a lot of breaks council and IRyS improved the chemistry in the EN circle by a lot. watch any myth collab by themselves. the atmosphere feels really awkward and they have no synergy. council made them loosen up and it will pay off in the long run.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:21:16 2021 No.13648399 >>13648226 Except that gen 2 was the golden gen until gen 3, Aqua was the golden girl with Fubuki for example, in fact, Aqua had the most supas in the entire world for a while. Council is just the failure gen, kind like gen 4 without Coco.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:22:15 2021 No.13648444 >>13648289 > sea of red on holo poi. Pic?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:24:46 2021 No.13648557 File: 139 KB, 1035x733, 1628204183567.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13648289 This was July 1st.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:25:29 2021 No.13648595

>>13643199
That’s because they also don’t pay their people yet still take a chunk of their money, even if Nijikeks might scream
>Buh buh muh merchs and free 3D
Nijisanji at this point is worse off than if the Liver was an indie 2view since 2view only have to share cut with YT.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:25:46 2021 No.13648608 >>13648289 >things that only happened in anon's head

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:25:53 2021 No.13648614
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>>13646422
You'd expect Pekora to get hours watched with ridiculous ccv and hours streamed but of course Amouranth takes the cake just by streaming 8+ hours to 8.5k average views. It's bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:27:08 2021 No.13648677 >>13648557 nostalgia sake, do you have an image back when people getting 7k subs a month was the norm. those were some glorious numbers...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:28:13 2021 No.13648741 File: 218 KB, 3945x1171, 1608519679040.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13648614 Raw watched hours is a garbage metric that can be cheated. View/time is better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:29:08 2021 No.13648792 File: 109 KB, 764x872, 1622470058004.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13648557 Need to dig through my screenshot folder first but have this first. This was June 26th 2020.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:30:44 2021 No.13648859 >>13648557 Now show the chart the day Coco announced her retirement.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:31:04 2021 No.13648881 >>13648741 Gura/Marine/Hachaama on top. Nousagibros, I don't feel so good...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:31:07 2021 No.13648883 >>13648792 I remember that. That was when Korone exploded on the internet and went ahead of the others girls, to the point of thinking she would be the first Vtuber to destroy the four heavenly kings. Good times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:31:51 2021 No.13648916 >>13648741 Except you can cheat this metric more. How did i know? Just ask ayame. Atleast in watch hours you actually need to grind no?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:32:38 2021 No.13648960 >>13648377 Does Yagoo whale or is just natural good luck when it comes to a pull? Is that why La+is a SSS? Will we see a UR with the other girls?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:32:47 2021 No.13648968 >>13648741 IMO, it's good to have BOTH metrics. Taking any single metric as 'the best metric' is a retarded take when there are so many different categories of numbers that the chubbas operate on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:33:14 2021 No.13649003 >>13648916 You can cheat watch hours too. Just rebroadcast old streams 24/7

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:33:26 2021 No.13649013 >>13648916 Watch hours let you just watch youtube on stream for 12 hours a day to 7k people and be on top of the charts

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:33:59 2021 No.13649037 >>13648859 Give me the date, I don't remember when she announced it.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:34:02 2021 No.13649040

>>13648960
La+ appears to be SS+, but we have to see how she performs on a day to day basis to have a better gauge on how she'll fare.
Also I've told you, he's got that Saviorfag EX passive, there's a reason "Yagoo's home for broken girls" is more than just a meme.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:34:13 2021 No.13649049

>>13648741
This is even worse lmao. At least raw watch hours proves you're getting good viewership for x amount of time. All you have to do to cheat view/time is only do big streams. This also punishes Pekora a huge amount for doing long shill streams like Judgement.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:34:16 2021 No.13649052 >>13648960 Whale implies a lot of pulls. That's the Niji way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:34:39 2021 No.13649071 >>13649040 That reminds me, the nips figure her out?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:35:01 2021 No.13649084 File: 24 KB, 305x178, millie views.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] dayumn millie not bad

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:35:08 2021 No.13649090

>>13648289
You're probably thinking of the big Taiwan yab.
That first 3 day period was the only time everyone was in the red. Except for Coco and Haachama, and Korone who was still riding the Eekum meme hype
Fubuki lost 10k subs in those 3 days, while still gaining new subs though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:35:17 2021 No.13649100 >>13649071 Some Re:Act 2view.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:35:29 2021 No.13649112 >>13649013 Yeah as if viewer retention is not a good thing anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:35:54 2021 No.13649130 >>13648859 Hallucination is a sign of mental illness, please consult your doctor

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:36:25 2021 No.13649159 >>13649084 >get rewarded for being creative who would've thunk?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:36:25 2021 No.13649158 File: 101 KB, 401x857, 1627744480556.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The day of Taiwan yab, Bilibili subs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:36:26 2021 No.13649161 >>13649071 Yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:37:50 2021 No.13649227 File: 9 KB, 266x92, 1618552453969.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Aqua....

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:38:54 2021 No.13649277 File: 7 KB, 548x195, Pekora's Hours watched.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13646422 I even counted Pekora's hours watched for November. They missed like a hundred thousand and a half.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:38:57 2021 No.13649279 >>13649158 >Bilibili subs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:39:20 2021 No.13649296 File: 42 KB, 566x335, 1631573833530.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This should be before PekoMoona.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:41:11 2021 No.13649374 >>13648289 >Bilibili Are you a chink?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:41:26 2021 No.13649396 >>13649296 This is already when they meet no? I remember moona as the last in terms of sub in ID before she meet pekora.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:41:28 2021 No.13649400 >>13649296 No. This was after the Lapiz Lazuli encounter. She was below Risu before that and went like a rocket after that. That being said, I think is before the Wither boss fight, which also become a clip galore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:42:33 2021 No.13649447 >>13649277 I compiled it manually, Nov is limited to 1 ~ 25th from holo_data

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:44:14 2021 No.13649532

>>13648236
>>13648105
Speaking of Wave. they're fucked right if they try to debut in December? I mean, it's totally confirmed they're debuting on a month where niji is at their strongest, but Hololive is already planning something big for December on how they pushed debuts way too early than the usual.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:44:19 2021 No.13649537 >>13649100 Isn’t it crazy how much having a big name behind who can actually show your talent to the world can change so much?

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:46:18 2021 No.13649634

>>13649158
Damn, the fact that even after more than a year, Hololive still have shit tons of subs on Bilibili is rather impressive. Fubuki is still rocking 734k (as of now) as their public enemy #2 and Aqua is ahead at 857k subs. Even Coco still has 76k. That's more than what majority of VTubers have (including those on Bilibili).
Interestingly, it seems that outside of totally deserted channels (those without any content), Hololive still gets some views over the last 30 days (ranging from few thousands to hundred thousands) over there. I can understand Aqua getting 375k, but why did Matsuri and Hololive Official gain 200k and 100k respectively?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:46:55 2021 No.13649669 >>13649100 I guess smaller companies really are breeding grounds for future big corpo vtubers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:47:54 2021 No.13649716 >>13649634 Festival was liked and Hololive Official just have good hologra.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:48:55 2021 No.13649760 File: 21 KB, 287x189, 1635996321017.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Aqua... >>13649396 >>13649400 That screenshot was October 25th. I thought PekoMoona was on November kek.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:49:25 2021 No.13649783 >>13649532 who knows what the fuck is nijien management doing. say what you want about omega, but that he knows what the fuck he's doing and doing a pretty good job steering en free of dramas but for some reason, kiara always wants to start something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:50:06 2021 No.13649816 >>13649716 Oh, their Chink (or are they TW?) collaborators are still uploading Hologram on the official channel over there? I didn't know about that, I thought Bilibili translators went all piracy on Hololive

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:50:12 2021 No.13649821 https://youtu.be/nSMDrHiBsW4 yep, cover yourself in hololive and hope some of that magic rubs off on you

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:50:16 2021 No.13649824 File: 60 KB, 383x434, 1615064244080.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:50:55 2021 No.13649850 File: 1.21 MB, 1640x482, sert.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This woman makes everyone seethe

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:51:14 2021 No.13649876 >>13649783 >say what you want about omega, but that he knows what the fuck he's doing Are you joking now? Laplus in one day has more subs than Sana 3 months in. Omega has no idea of what the fuck he is doing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:51:56 2021 No.13649902 >>13648127 >chosen to better support myth Give my Kiara a European friend already!

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:52:50 2021 No.13649944

>>13649532
To be fair, it probably wouldn't matter. Hololive might or might not have big events line up, but I doubt they can cover the entire month with events. Heck, if Niji management play their cards right, maybe Niji Wave 4 can gain some benefits from new viewers Hololive attracts with their events

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:53:00 2021 No.13649954 >>13649850 She is a whore, but at least I respect all the time she passes doing streams, no wonder why Pekora can't chase her

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:53:35 2021 No.13649991 >>13649816 I dunno, but If they don't nuked Hololive Official, then the archives should be enough with some Hologra.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:54:01 2021 No.13650013 File: 15 KB, 880x197, ertser.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13649850 >Pekora >30k average views >85 hours >Amouranth >Pic related Fuck this girl. Can't twitch just ban her permanently?

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:54:04 2021 No.13650015

>>13649669
Yep. What they really lack is just good exposure. If the Sony chuubas had been picked up by Holo or even Niji they would have gotten at least triple the numbers of what they have now, unlike with the shitty ass company they’re stuck with. They weren’t even provided with decent equipments for gods sakes.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:54:31 2021 No.13650046

>>13649902
>Give my Kiara a European friend already!
have you not seen the data? jp6 and gen 3 concert didn't trend in EU at all. there's no market for it as of right now. EU people need to start donating, subs, and interacting with the girls more before Cover decides to tap that market.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:54:56 2021 No.13650060 >>13649532 >they pushed debuts way too early than the usual It's a really good time. Right after sankisei concert, on the month where there are not too many anniversaries, and their collab ban will end right at new year event.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:55:35 2021 No.13650102 >>13650013 Why don't Pekora stream 300 hours a month?

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:56:42 2021 No.13650162

>>13648254
Not sure if I should post this instead of going to bed but fuck it. I decided to go all the way since I've already started counting.
Here are the total numbers for Council in their first 8 days (Aug 16th - 24th) with any decline in subs removed from the count. Pure stacking of growth, the most favourable position you can give them without going into headcanon multiplier magic:
Kronii - 324,400
Mumei - 298,600
Baelz - 291,200
Fauna - 291,000
Sana - 238,000

And once more,
Laplus - 306,000 in 1 day

So, if you condense 8 days worth of sub growth into 1 without making any other considerations, then yes, Kronii is better than culled Laplus's performance in 24 hours (who took a roughly 20k hit just upon reaching 300k >>13637439), with Mumei, Baelz and Fauna lagging somewhat behind, and Sana far behind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:56:48 2021 No.13650166 >>13650015 To be fair Cover doesn't give the girls equipment either. It's one of Cover's biggest mistakes imo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:56:59 2021 No.13650174 >>13650060 And if Kiara's right about her spoilers (sigh...I wish), Myth's new outfit will be drop at early December. Basically lining up events.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:57:03 2021 No.13650180 >>13643199 >>13643414 >>13643518 >>13648595 That's really a good showing of not knowing nijisanji vtubers. Bad in scouting? raelly? kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:57:56 2021 No.13650231 >>13650046 EU doesn't work like this, you need to pander to them first before they start donating, we are not 3rd world pajeets who will be fine with everything. You know the whole Kiara "MEMEME"? Is pretty much the standard European behavior

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:58:34 2021 No.13650264 >>13650180 anon, maybe if you tried actually explaining anything instead of just snidely going "Ehehe look at all these plebs" maybe people will actually take you seriously

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:58:48 2021 No.13650287 >>13650162 All they need is one crazy popular member in the gen and she'll carry the rest of the gen. Kronii and Laplus were good picks.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:58:58 2021 No.13650296

>>13650013
Being able to stream that much is also a good thing anon. Even Pekora admitted that she probably couldn't pull the same amount of hours. I don't care about Amouranth, but grinding that much is respectable (unless most of those were her streaming herself sleeping naked or something)

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:59:25 2021 No.13650315

>>13649821
The entire vtubing world is obsessed with her right now. She is going to be the next mega star isn't she? Since Gen 3 blew up with 2 mega stars the only true mega star Hololive has created is Gura. Do we finally have another one to compete with Pekora, Miko, Marine, and Gura?

Also, before schizos get pissed at me by Mega Star I just mean the top of the top. Obviously Hololive has created a ton of stars since gen 3 like Kanata, Botan, Mori, Kronii, Ina, Nene, Watame, etc. They are very good at created stars but Mega Stars are very rare.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 03:59:33 2021 No.13650324 >>13650102 Because maintaining a character for 300 hours will drain her mental health in a record time

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:00:12 2021 No.13650361 >>13650102 doing what? licking a microphone?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:00:24 2021 No.13650370 >>13650102 lol that would hurt her avg CCV since she can only get numbers on holiday/weekend and JP primetime

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:00:56 2021 No.13650398 >>13650315 Calli counts as a megastar. Her songs always does well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:01:18 2021 No.13650421 File: 339 KB, 491x483, 1634125288250.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Decent numbers from Moona in the ID server, this is a good timeslot for her

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:01:35 2021 No.13650437 >>13650296 >>13650102 >>13649954 >respect >She's eating on stream to bloat numbers It's not respectable at all. The clip of ludwig already exposed her not focusing on her stream and watch another stream while doing lazy ASMR.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:01:59 2021 No.13650450 File: 59 KB, 980x1144, 123af.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The last to debut truly is fucked with 2 videos, La+ gets a pass

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:03:00 2021 No.13650509 File: 651 KB, 860x521, sdefrgt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13650437 Forgot to include pic >eating while reacting to videos Super lazy

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:03:13 2021 No.13650524 >>13650398 Thats fair I would consider Mori and Suisei in the Mega Star category because their music output and viewership is truly elite.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:03:14 2021 No.13650526

>>13650180
>Bad in scouting? raelly? kek
Mind telling me how many Niji livers blow up in popularity recently? Ethyria was greatly hyped up as the super talented gen, and yet they have been getting around 900-1,000 (give or take a few hundreds) median CCV recently.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:03:19 2021 No.13650531 >>13650437 >It's not respectable at all. She can put her food as business expanses, so she pays less tax on that. That's respectable as hell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:03:23 2021 No.13650535 >>13650398 Calli and Gura pulled the standard too high for future EN, but I still think Irys, Kronii and Bae still has a lot of potential to rise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:05:05 2021 No.13650617 >>13650450 That looks like a big drop, but it was only 10k, right? It isn't as bad as what happened to Council, unless Susan is going to keep doing it several more times

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:05:06 2021 No.13650619 >>13650398 Mumei would have been if she released that fucking song already

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:05:17 2021 No.13650630 >>13650450 They really piled on all the advantages to La+. Would be kinda annoyed as her genmate desu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:06:10 2021 No.13650685 >>13650524 If mori and suisei is considered mega star then rushia is also a mega star she is basically unparalleled in SC for holo with strong CCV and Vod no?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:06:14 2021 No.13650690 >>13650617 >10k on top of 20k earlier. the 4 peaked at 155k

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:06:22 2021 No.13650692

>>13650287
No? It doesn't works that way. Coco didn't carry her genmates as much, neither did Aqua and Gen 2 has among the worst synergy. Thinking about Aqua and Council Kronii does gives airs of Aqua as in more like her appeal is independent of the others. Especially with her phoned in schedules and lack of promoting others like Ame.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:06:27 2021 No.13650700 What's up with the council hate in this thread? Did something happen?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:07:21 2021 No.13650742 >>13650398 >>13650619 >>13650685 Can we not do this again?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:07:36 2021 No.13650756 >>13650700 167k mogging bred a new schizo

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:08:52 2021 No.13650827 >>13650685 Eh, I'm hesitant to include super chats as a metric to measure star quality since its so volatile. That would make Lamy a mega star too as well as other wise low tiers like Kiara and Sana since they do very well with super chats as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:08:57 2021 No.13650836 >>13650700 It's (1) or more schizos out to shit on council every chance they get now that general EN vs JP sentiment is starting to be ignored. They're refining their baits for maximum (you)s

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:09:30 2021 No.13650859

>>13644607
Everyone saying towas yab caused her low numbers dont know she had shit numbers pre yab. People showed up because of her mama and design. Were filtered because her debut was a technical shit show and she was actually sick and her voice was in terrible condition. So she got the rep of an old lady with a smoker's cough. The cough went away eventually and her voice mellowed out. Everything else just made it harder for her to succeed. She only really started to get out of the bottom spot of ccv after her 3d.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:09:36 2021 No.13650864 >>13650617 She lost at very least 20k, probably more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:09:51 2021 No.13650881 >>13650692 Kronii might carry more for Gura than Council at this point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:10:18 2021 No.13650905 >>13650836 more like councilfags don't like that they got mogged and are making shit up to pretend they're totally on par with holox, for realz

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:11:58 2021 No.13650990 >>13650700 Council got super mogged by lolicunny and is in general a failure of a gen.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:12:01 2021 No.13650994

>>13650046
I think Kiara trended on some yuros' countries on twitter once in a while, not hig but trended.
Also I think she has the most donations in yuros from all of EN.
Granted, USD is still dominant.
But also...
>>13650231
I think her german karaoke and re-debut skit on german were those time in which she trended.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:12:11 2021 No.13651003 >>13643518 Voice packs are some of the cheapest and easiest merch to make

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:12:24 2021 No.13651014 >>13650827 You are comparing rushia with $1,460,234(jan-oct2021) to Yukihana Lamy - $777,269(jan-oct2021) also rushia's overall stats from CCV and Vod is not comparable to Lamy, kiara and sana.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:13:18 2021 No.13651068 >>13650836 Is this the new councilcope? We really need that list after all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:13:32 2021 No.13651083 ShiraKen MC Feat Disney https://youtu.be/Ups1nPbRDS4

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:13:32 2021 No.13651085 >>13650990 Anon...we do not want another Leo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:13:57 2021 No.13651109 >>13650827 The only metric superchats count is how rich is your audience and how well you milk those dollars from them

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:14:22 2021 No.13651138 >>13648127 >support myth Supporting by taking break kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:15:21 2021 No.13651200 >>13651109 And the only metric CCV counts is how many people you are able to bait (or entertain) to watch your stream. Case in point: Millie rn Shit aside, no.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:15:24 2021 No.13651205 >>13651083 sponsored

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:15:57 2021 No.13651234

>>13647939
If you read his entrepreneur business magazine interviews rather than his vtuber company PR pieces he's intelligent and always talking about big picture strategy. One that struck me was an interview about timing to focus on expansion vs focus on profitability, and how these priorities can conflict. The reason Cover is profitable is probably his direction to figure out how to generate income streams, because if it were just Cover's cut of YouTube-related incomes they would still be losing money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:16:08 2021 No.13651250 >>13651205 Its just minecraft stream isnt it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:16:40 2021 No.13651286 >>13651083 Cover finally partners with pure evil.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:17:27 2021 No.13651337 >>13649084 Sana mogged, next kiara and bals

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:17:29 2021 No.13651338 >>13651083 Da FAQ? Oh. It's a new dlc map thing that was released a week ago. That's certainly uh....Novel. yea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:18:48 2021 No.13651404 >>13651083 Will manager tell the girls to not show Mickey to not suffer Disney's wrath?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:18:55 2021 No.13651408 >>13650296 You know that she rebroadcasts a ton, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:18:56 2021 No.13651411 >>13651083 are they gettingg sponsored by MC or Disney? this looks more in the MC side

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:18:57 2021 No.13651413 >>13651200 You can bait people to come to your stream, but keeping them watching is a good measure of how good you are doing in that stream, of course is different a debuff game than an interesting stream and it should be taken in consideration

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:18:59 2021 No.13651417 File: 585 KB, 720x480, 1628201348099.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13651083 ShiraKen collabs always do very good numbers. These four dorks really struck gold with this group. For my money its the best subgroup in Hololive. Love em.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:19:36 2021 No.13651462 File: 14 KB, 447x462, sajighv.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >it's still trending at my place

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:19:56 2021 No.13651479 File: 240 KB, 1630x494, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] amazon.jp

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:20:10 2021 No.13651494 Disney Minecraft is split POV too bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:20:17 2021 No.13651500 >>13644477 Add ID

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:20:21 2021 No.13651502 >>13651404 It's a MC dlc thing. Disney likely offered BLANKET PERMISSIONS for anything that's in the specific DLC, otherwise I doubt MC would have gone forward with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:20:23 2021 No.13651505 >>13651417 >Polka as the fat guy KEK

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:20:24 2021 No.13651506 >>13650450 I said it'd be a realtime experiment as to how culling works for subs. Gen 6 will fuck over its later debuts as a consequence, but from this point forward we'll only ever get same-day channel reveals and debuts and same-day relay debuts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:21:01 2021 No.13651553 File: 689 KB, 1280x719, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13651479 otakumode

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:21:21 2021 No.13651565 >>13651479 30k yen Jeez, I mean, I know, I know, 1/7 figures tend to be expensive but ouch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:21:54 2021 No.13651592 >>13651506 >The other 4 Gen 6 members gets fucked by Susan in order to spare La+ Actually impressive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:22:08 2021 No.13651603 >>13645381 People used to call her bootleg Aqua

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:22:09 2021 No.13651605 >>13651286 The price of kingdom heart's permissions...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:22:24 2021 No.13651616 File: 508 KB, 1234x432, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13651553 amiami.jp

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:23:13 2021 No.13651643 >>13651479 >>13651553 >>13651616 So this is the power of hololive

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:23:57 2021 No.13651688 >>13651592 Honestly, the only other experiment they've failed to conduct with this gen debut is the idea of having small, short videos uploaded to the channel ahead of debuts and seeing if that prevents the sub culling as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:24:10 2021 No.13651699 Lol Nijisanji got mogged so hard that they use Council vs HoloX. Seeing nijifag cope and seethe is so damn satisfying. GET REKT Nijifags!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:24:44 2021 No.13651733 >>13651605 I wonder if Pekora could get the permissions for the KH series. She has nousagis on Square but having Disney on board is going to be the biggest upset Cover could do, even more than getting Sony's permission.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:27:10 2021 No.13651856 Not related to vtuber, but I'm surprised Saya-chan still has recent clips going viral. I saw a recent clip of her mistaking night for morning getting 3M+ views. How the heck is this weather girl so lucky?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:27:56 2021 No.13651894 >>13651616 How the fuck is the toloveru bitch still so popular

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:31:14 2021 No.13652043 >>13646590 !!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:31:18 2021 No.13652048 >>13651592 Damn the samurai girl will suffer the same fate as Sana huh.. She gonna debut last iirc

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:32:54 2021 No.13652109 >>13651479 What the fuck MG Virtue is that expensive??? >>13652048 She has good design and rigging. She'll be fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:34:21 2021 No.13652170 >>13647028 You can hire a star but you cant pay them to be motivated

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:36:34 2021 No.13652249 >>13646590 Selenbros... Not like this!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:36:48 2021 No.13652259 >>13651856 The original clip of hers got 27 million views now, go figure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:38:39 2021 No.13652342 >Pekora 28k Nousagis love Pokemon, hates baseball

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:39:43 2021 No.13652380 >>13648118 (((They))) made it up

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:40:37 2021 No.13652418 >>13652342 Dude if you watch that powerpoke stream its all dialogue and just boring stuff in general.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:40:51 2021 No.13652426 >>13651083 holy shit, did Cover manged to get the mouse to kneel? imagine if we get a sora x sora kingdom heart collab

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:41:02 2021 No.13652439 >>13652342 (me) hate is a wrong word. More like neutral.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:41:15 2021 No.13652448 >>13650437 You will never be a woman and you will never be attractive

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:43:11 2021 No.13652532 File: 229 KB, 946x2048, FFG8stGaMAAWtBE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You guys are losers if you can't do this for your oshi

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:44:22 2021 No.13652583

>>13647715
From what I see so far
Headhunting hires > Cronyism hires > Auditions hires

Forgive my ESL
What I mean by headhunting is the company actively seeking out a particular talent like Miko, Noel.

Council is made of cronyism and auditions hires. Does HoloEN have any headhunted talent?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:46:07 2021 No.13652646 >>13652583 >Does HoloEN have any headhunted talen No they managed to get 4 SSRs

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:47:08 2021 No.13652686 >>13651083 >Konami kneels >Walt Disney kneels one by one

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:49:18 2021 No.13652754 >peko 30k get Can spike a bit more since she wants to hit the 5th gym today

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:50:36 2021 No.13652806 cam on iwys...get that 12k... irys is declining

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:50:54 2021 No.13652823 >>13652646 You serious?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:51:32 2021 No.13652848 >>13652342 Her viewership increased when baseball was being played, but the game is like 98% dialogue

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:51:36 2021 No.13652851

>>13652583
EN is strange in that it's hard for headhunting to really be a functional or feasible option given the current state of EN Vtubing as a whole. Even then, their selections on Myth include two that might as well have been headhunted, as much as people like to meme about "luck."

And for as much as people like to meme even more about Council, its two top performers also fit that bill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:52:01 2021 No.13652869 >>13652806 >declining Yes she is, the fate of HoloEN has already been decided unfortunately. I don't think they or the branch will ever recover from such a drop to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:53:02 2021 No.13652899 >>13652851 >>13652583 yeah, headhunting is the NijiEN method of acquiring talents, and as you can see it's not working out terribly well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:53:26 2021 No.13652920 >>13652851 Fit the bill thag the entire EN is full of nothing but people ypu can easily find on YT landscape. They bring nothing new to the table though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:54:02 2021 No.13652940 >>13652899 NijiEN doesn't "headhunt" if their selections are all from the same friend group.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:54:07 2021 No.13652944 https://twitter.com/nakiriayame/status/1464449037101244422 Empress Ayame will be on Fubuki's TRPG Stream??

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:54:43 2021 No.13652963 >>13652940 Petra is a headhunt hire. So is Millie

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:58:15 2021 No.13653099 >>13649850 Shes earning more $$$ than your oshi https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qzt771/amouranth_made_over_200k_on_a_single_onlyfans/

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 04:59:56 2021 No.13653165 >>13650315 People lose perspective and get number rot. You don't need to be the best in the world to be a mega star. If you're high mid in Hololive you're already a mega star sitting on top of several tens of thousands.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:01:28 2021 No.13653227 pekora at 33k and subaru at 22k in the middle of the day btw holojp is just too strong nowadays that even holoen cant compare

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:01:32 2021 No.13653232 >>13653165 >You don't need to be the best what a 2view way of thinking anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:02:52 2021 No.13653285 >>13653227 relax they just compete for silver now for the next 3-4 days

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:04:48 2021 No.13653375 >>13651083 they know which MC group is the best among holos still split pov tho, numberwise its bad but the clip gonna be good from different pov

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:05:54 2021 No.13653420 nijisanji irrelevant af, now everyone has to pit holo x holo just to have a discussion

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:06:48 2021 No.13653464 >>13653420 Wait for NijiEN male wave. I'm confident it will shake things up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:07:09 2021 No.13653475 Pekora 35k GET

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:08:37 2021 No.13653521 File: 243 KB, 496x375, 1612754862498.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13653464

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:08:56 2021 No.13653536 >>13650361 God I wish

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:09:34 2021 No.13653575 >>13652920 I dunno about myth, but you definitely could find people better than council on the YT landscape. At very least you could find people that actually like streaming.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:11:14 2021 No.13653642 >>13653575 >Council essentially hates numbers >the leader and the first HoloX debutant is a numberfag Cover is learning at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:11:24 2021 No.13653650 >>13653575 Nah, these EN streamers are shit anyway, I would prefer Chibese streamers since their work ethics are much better than English fatblobs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:11:26 2021 No.13653656 >>13646062 Ok zhang

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:12:11 2021 No.13653699 >>13652342 Didn't she get her usual 22k shilling floor yesterday? What was more absurd was how Subaru and Miko barely struggled to surpass Pekora's floor yesterday with their buff game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:12:43 2021 No.13653728 HoloEN proves that vtubing is just a fad... more than a year in and they declined

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:13:07 2021 No.13653751 >>13653642 >Cover is learning at least. That gives me hope for the future, I really hope they learn from their mistake with council.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:13:09 2021 No.13653753 >>13653650 >Chinese Give it up already, Cover will never return to the China market.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:14:09 2021 No.13653791 >>13653656 Is that the best you can do to defend your whore oshi anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:16:24 2021 No.13653869 >>13653791 Better than your literal whore vtubers, zhang. Pretty sure they liked sucking you all irl just because you paid good money for her address.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:19:52 2021 No.13654024

>>13653575
Myth was just as bad as Council for the first 8-12 months. It's only very recently that they've started to lift their game. Gura blowing off streams because she's "sick" used to be just as big of a meme as Kronii's breaks. Mori basically avoided interacting with Hololive at all costs for the first few months and tried to brute force her way into collabs with e-celebs because she likes Vshojo culture more. It was only within the past few months that she willingly got involved with some actual streaming collabs with Rushia and said Rushia "wasn't like she thought she'd be" which basically confirms Mori had never even watched a Rushia stream before collabing with her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:21:29 2021 No.13654090 >>13653642 Imagine if EN hired someone who actually wants to be popular and actually worked towards it. Seems like they only hire neurotics who are prone to severe imposter syndrome and sabotage themselves because of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:22:30 2021 No.13654133 >>13653791 >this anon doesn’t know that anyone in hololive is technically a whore

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:23:21 2021 No.13654167 >>13653464 yeah that's what nijikeks said twice now, that'd be the third

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:23:58 2021 No.13654187 >>13653791 >but..but whore This word already doesn’t mean anything, anon

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:24:03 2021 No.13654191

>>13654024
>Myth was just as bad as Council for the first 8-12 months.
Bullshit, someone made a chart comparing them, myth was doing waay better. Mori while working 2 jobs was still beating at least Sana and Mumei.

>>13654090
Only Kronii is neurotic, the other ones are just super lazy or incompetent. Mumei has fewer hours streamed than Cali when she working 2 jobs.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:25:20 2021 No.13654246

>>13654024
Mori's turn around is probably one of the most amazing things I've seen concerning vtubing. She went from auditioning as a joke and not caring that much about Hololive to being the flag bearer for unity and building bridges in Hololive as a whole. She was even the first EN member to respond to all the intro tweets for the new Gen 6 members. Its really quite amazing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:25:24 2021 No.13654250 Pekora got 37k fighting a gym leader. Subaru is also holding some fat numbers. If you look at the 10pm JST slot it'll be a total shitshow, they're actually pretty clever to hold this slot.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:25:33 2021 No.13654258

>>13654191
>myth was doing waay better.
Only because of inertia. They benefited from debuting right at the height of the Hololive boom. In terms of content they put out less than Council. The first EN collabs were absolute clusterfucks, you've just forgotten how bad they were.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:25:35 2021 No.13654263 oh matsuri became an SC millionaire

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:26:55 2021 No.13654312 >>13654258 No, I meant obviously amount of content. Myth had more hours streamed than council did at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:27:17 2021 No.13654326 As expected, when nijisanji gets mogged, we get holo vs holo schizos nijisanji is irrelevant now

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:27:33 2021 No.13654341 >>13653650 Don't you have a shitty management to fix, bug? Your pitiful whores in VirtuaReal are retiring just because they complain a bit about their braindead management.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:27:45 2021 No.13654352

>>13654246
Collab with Rushia changed her mind. She's had the Trash Taste fags trying to poison her mind against Hololive and had a bunch of preconceptions about the JP branch she wasn't able to shake off until she actually interacted with one of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:27:59 2021 No.13654363 >>13654326 It's not even EN vs JP, it's EN vs EN

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:28:26 2021 No.13654387 >>13654341 VR shutting down would be pretty funny seeing how desperate Niji is for the China audience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:28:41 2021 No.13654403 >>13654352 >TTfags What? QRD?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:28:57 2021 No.13654415 >>13654326 Niji isn't even worth talking about to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:29:47 2021 No.13654446 >>13654312 >Myth had more hours streamed than council did at the same time. I seriously doubt this even with Sana being gone for a month. Myth only streamed for an hour at a time for the first few months.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:30:00 2021 No.13654458 >>13654415 Well yeah king is not producing numbers to challenge holo's currently.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:30:09 2021 No.13654466 >>13654352 the globoholo brainwashing...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:31:06 2021 No.13654499 >>13654403 Mori hangs out with the Trash Taste crew irl and since Mori doesn't actually watch Hololive streams she thought the shit they go on about was what Hololive actually is

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:32:32 2021 No.13654553 >>13654499 Oh wow. Anykara might as well pay TT to passively sabotage Hololive's reputation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:33:09 2021 No.13654579 >>13654403 TTfags kept telling Mori to work less.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:33:24 2021 No.13654588 >>13654553 why bother when TT is already doing it for free.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:33:46 2021 No.13654600 File: 16 KB, 930x244, clockwork.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >timeloop like a clockwork

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:34:03 2021 No.13654617

>>13650015
>If the Sony chuubas had been picked up by Holo or even Niji they would have gotten at least triple the numbers of what they have now.

If Sony had brought retired designs from Holo and Niji and manage to rehire the roommates they would have a lot more attention

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:34:03 2021 No.13654618 >>13654446 Sana wasn't even the last in council actually, that was Mumei somehow. I hope someone post the chart that compared both, I forgot to save it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:34:14 2021 No.13654622 >>13654579 And telling her Cover is a black company that's taking advantage of her. They're shitheads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:34:44 2021 No.13654641 >>13654499 >>13654352 Based Calli I like her even more now

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:35:22 2021 No.13654662 >>13654617 kek good luck with that without both cooperates getting a ton of shit for it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:38:59 2021 No.13654796 >>13654622 isn't this why they were originally blacklisted

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:40:39 2021 No.13654876 >https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1464458666585694208 Definitely sponsored

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:41:31 2021 No.13654908 Sorry can anyone direct me to the numbers thread, I seem to have stepped in the baseless gossip thread by mistake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:43:10 2021 No.13654963 >>13654876 How do we stop Watamage? >>13654908 Pretty event-less hours results in threads like this, enjoy your stay newfriend

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:44:18 2021 No.13655007 Is irys under 10k median now or is she still above it?

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:46:23 2021 No.13655069

>>13654246
She never "auditioned as a joke", she just didn't expect to get in and expected that all her experiences in japan would just end up as something to write a webcomic about when she went back. This is like the 5% thing all over again where shitposters twist her words into something she never said and then repeat it until it's taken as fact.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:47:28 2021 No.13655108 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WplLwnAmzWc >the second stream after the live from the sankisei member with low blood pressure problem Come the fucking on Marine, Noel, do fucking something

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:48:48 2021 No.13655150 >>13655007 under because of a string of flops from RE8 and Pokemon real time observation of people losing interest

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:48:52 2021 No.13655155 >>13651479 GOOD. I hope it fucking sells out. Hopefully this would give companies better incentive to come up with better designs and casting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:49:30 2021 No.13655186 >>13655007 I don't think she'll have a 10k median. Including this, her last 4 streams are below 10k.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:51:22 2021 No.13655250 >>13655150 >>13655186 >I don't think >String of flops GIVE NUMBERS

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:55:42 2021 No.13655425

>>13651506
>but from this point forward we'll only ever get same-day channel reveals and debuts and same-day relay debuts.
God I hope so. Weeks of teasing silhouettes, then more days to tease the designs, then more days of the talent around in social media before the debut, needs to be in the left in the past. Its so outdated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:56:20 2021 No.13655445 >>13655250 Last 4 streams Pokemon >7.8k RE8 >4.7k Pokemon >5.4k Minecraft 9.4k Pokemon started the downfall, with the unarchived singing stream at 16k as the sole exception.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:57:32 2021 No.13655484 >>13655007 under now. She can get it back if she breaks 10k this stream

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:57:42 2021 No.13655491 >>13654908 >tfw the threads going to be like this for the next 4 days

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:57:45 2021 No.13655493 File: 9 KB, 282x550, Quick Calculations.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13655250 I'm bored anyway so i did a quick calculation. I just listed all her peaks this month and used excel >keep in mind that i'm not the graph/chartanon

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:58:36 2021 No.13655530 >>13654908 Where's the baseless gossip?

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:59:01 2021 No.13655550

>>13655445
Ehh she's just playing in a packed timeslot. Pokemon was overlapped by Gura and Pekos first Pokemon streams. RE8 was her own fault, she played on baby mode and hid the ending. Second Pokemon was a guerilla stream 9 hours outside her usualy slot. Tonight obviously she's losing out to Peko and Subaru, MC is a tourist heavy draw game but Pekos nuzlocke stream even more so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 05:59:30 2021 No.13655572 >>13655491 Try months, unless nijisanji has some surprises in store for us next month

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:01:11 2021 No.13655629 >>13655550 Frankly I think people really did give IRyS a fair chance since the Ollie and Kronii MC shenanigans gave her some spotlight but are getting burnt out with how samey she is

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:01:30 2021 No.13655642 aren't you tired of "winning", holobronies? why not remove gen 3 from your total to make it more exciting?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:02:38 2021 No.13655671 >>13655642 We should do that and also remove Kuzuha, Kanae, Lizie and the baseball guy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:03:41 2021 No.13655715 >>13655629 What are you even talking about?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:04:58 2021 No.13655769 >>13655671 >We should do that and also remove Ku- Yawn. Have fun with your dead thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:05:21 2021 No.13655783 >>13655642 No in fact I actually am not

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:06:04 2021 No.13655820 >>13655642 >>13655769 Seethe. I enjoy stomping on you Nijifags.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:06:15 2021 No.13655825 >>13655642 kek remove niji main channel and I'll consider that

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:07:12 2021 No.13655856 At 6 hours of Lui, 1.6k are on the waiting room. It will hit the 100k but don't expect to do as good as Laplus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:07:36 2021 No.13655868 >>13655642 Well Hololive without Gen 3 will still have Gura, Miko, Suisei, Subaru, Fubuki as high tiers in ccv. Lamy will be the SC Queen. Aqua, Korone and Ayame also get good ccv but they don't have 5 streams today so they're excluded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:07:50 2021 No.13655874 >>13654458 He can't be called King anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:08:16 2021 No.13655889 Her numberfagging is too blatant it loops back to being cringe. https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1464474603296751621

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:08:24 2021 No.13655894 >>13652899 no its mostly nepotism

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:09:05 2021 No.13655911 Lui won't get 100k

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:09:21 2021 No.13655923 >>13655868 (me) Aqua, Korone and Ayame also get good ccv but they don't have 5 streams today so they're excluded. I meant this month >>13655856 Yeah, she can still get 100k but i think she'll get the lowest debut numbers among HoloX.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:09:31 2021 No.13655926 File: 20 KB, 337x176, 1626856224182.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 3M

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:09:54 2021 No.13655937 >>13655889 She's in fucking Hololive she should flaunt her numbers

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:10:09 2021 No.13655948 >>13655856 For some reason I'm thinking Masked Noel or Pink Lamy are the only ones with any chances of standing up to the loli menace

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:10:42 2021 No.13655966 >>13655889 I just wish this will not backfire her, seems like she's numberafgging too much, it's not even a week LMAO

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:11:30 2021 No.13655995

>>13655889
There's nothing wrong with what she's doing so far.
What's cringe is Kiara's numberfagging on Sparks. (tho since it's a song from her own money, it's understandable)

>>13655911
Laplus Debut left a good impression, so i say Lui can still get above 100k.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:12:13 2021 No.13656013 >>13655629 You are aware that she has been on a 3 months streak of inclining, right? >August 8,175 >September 8,424 >October 9,199 >December 9,935 at the moment, was slightly above 10k few days ago, but it's an incline either way

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:12:14 2021 No.13656015 >>13655937 >her numbers It's Hololives numbers. They could have put up a black screen yesterday and it would've hit 140k ccv

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:13:15 2021 No.13656047 >>13656013 She is the only en that is inclining right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:13:33 2021 No.13656063 >>13655889 If you've got it, flaunt it. Being a numberfagger is a good thing, all the best Holos are blatant numberfags like Pekora, Miko, Suisei and Subaru

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:13:36 2021 No.13656067 >>13655911 Pekora and Subaru are already farming massive numbers to be continuously funneled through Rushia all the way into the collab. I wouldn't worry about the bird, if she makes a good first impression she'll do great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:13:57 2021 No.13656083 >>13656015 On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, cope

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:14:26 2021 No.13656097 >>13656015 Seethe 2view nijinigger

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:14:44 2021 No.13656108 >>13655889 She was a 2 view and now she has had the biggest debut in vtuber history , makes sense to comment on it. She will just stream fps and settle down in views somewhere between botan and Towa and be happy enough with that I am sure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:14:55 2021 No.13656114 >>13656067 >collab I meant debut

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:15:23 2021 No.13656124 >>13656047 Calli is currently inclining in ccv isn't she?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:15:35 2021 No.13656130 >>13656063 Everyone you mentioned earned their numbers. Laplus is just riding the success of Hololive, she should earn her numbers before she starts bragging about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:16:16 2021 No.13656151 anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:16:20 2021 No.13656153 >>13656013 Graphanon also showed that IRyS was inclining in Average of peaks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:17:18 2021 No.13656187 >>13656151 I hate jpsies so fucking much

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:17:22 2021 No.13656191 >>13656130 see>>13656097

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:18:17 2021 No.13656221 Right now duck 25k and pekor 33k wtf???

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:18:26 2021 No.13656227 >>13656097 >>13656191 >Praise Hololive >Get called nijinigger Makes sense lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:18:28 2021 No.13656231 >>13656151 >Getting "bored" just as a shiny new debut is happening. Kek, I can taste the seethe from bitter Nijikeks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:18:47 2021 No.13656239 >>13655889 numberfagging is alright but being that blatant will only hurt her

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:19:00 2021 No.13656250 >>13656015 >>13656130 Bruh, she's not even bragging. She just thanking someone who congratulated her for getting 300k.

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:19:06 2021 No.13656253

>>13655889
Being a numberfag is good to a point since it shows you have ambitions, but you also have to be able to back it up. So far she has shown 0 reason for her to be considered even decent. But that is the problem with hololive and subs, a large portion of the subscriber-base is "sub and don't watch". It's the same with all chuubas, but the new generations show this more then anything since all get inflated at the start and then barely keep a decent ccv.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:19:32 2021 No.13656273 >>13656221 everyone wants to see subaru's reaction to majima in zero

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:19:36 2021 No.13656276 anyone else feeling the burnout from nijisanji? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:19:45 2021 No.13656284 >>13655642 hololive without gen 3 is still gonna win unlike niji. niji is too top heavy

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:20:21 2021 No.13656295 >>13656063 i hope she's a good sport and wont go to menhera route when people find her boring and her number plummet

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:21:41 2021 No.13656347 >>13656276 >>13656151 The thread is so dead that it spawned globalfags

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:22:08 2021 No.13656360 >>13656292 >>13656292 >>13656292 Migrate when ready

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:22:30 2021 No.13656376 >>13656295 You know she will, first yab of gen6. The question is if she will disown lolicons, which would be hilarious. Nyanners of JP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:22:58 2021 No.13656387 >>13656221 Both of their weekend streams have been killing it lately. I love the Subaru Pekora 1pm split.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:23:51 2021 No.13656415 >>13656376 So this is what /vt/drama does to your brain

Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:26:54 2021 No.13656507

>>13656047
On a streak? Perhaps. However, some other EN members also inclined compared to their numbers back in Aug / Sep too. For example, counting until 26 Nov
>Current Median CCV / Oct / Sep
>Mori: 9,775 / 8,616 / 9,084
>Amelia - 8,570 / 7,004 / 6,503
Mumei and Sana inclined compared to last month too (Sana got her best month not counting debut month, I believe)
>Mumei - 9,053 / 7,904
>Sana - 5,664 / 3,752
The rest dropped slightly, except Kronii who lost 3k (8,051 / 11,514 / 9,694) probably due to her lack of streams and her choice of games

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 27 06:36:52 2021 No.13656802 >>13656507 How the fuck do you recreate the Ayame effect

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