/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

What lessons should Cover corp learn from Tsukomo Sana's first few months?

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>>13614669
Killing her dog was not a good idea.

[Anonymous No.]

That nepotism was a mistake.

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>>13614669
Don't hire an australian who can't hide their accent

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Why the FUCK didn't she get Kronii's rigger? If only one rigger can do jiggle will then give them all the busty ones.

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>>13614669
Blacks don't fare well online

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Don't let chinks break into your talents' houses, unless you want their dogs to be eaten.

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>>13614669
Never hire an artist who does not do drawing streams

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Hey at least she pull more numbers than Kiara

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>>13614847
Doesn't she do them for Member Streams?

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>>13614669
That hiring mentally handicapped people (Mumei) and chink apologists (baelz) doesnt pay

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don't let her stream pokemon for 11hrs for one stream to BTFO ollie with 1 pokemon the next

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>>13614669
Black people like to play victim

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>>13614920
>paywalling her talent
That's even dumber. Imagine if all of Gura's unarchived karaoke are all member streams

[Anonymous No.]

>retarded dramafags can't do the simply job of looking through 30 videos
She did several draw streams you mongoloids

[Anonymous No.]

>don't give people clear debuff models
>if anything, when hiring someone with a different accent to the standard american one, at least give them a buff model to balance things out a little
>do not hire through gook nepotism
>do not let them take several weeks off for the death of a pet
Apart from that, Sana seems to be a good pick. But unfortunately she's been given a bad hand and has made a start she'll probably never recover from.

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>>13614669
Don't hire a girl that doesn't care about numbers and will take a break at every ''I'm not feeling happy'' moment, also only go dark skin if the girl knows how to play a Gyaru

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>>13614847
mumei is a better artist

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>>13615032
ohnonono

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>>13614669
Hire streamers, not your girlfriend's best friend.

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>>13615239
>she's been given a bad hand
It's 90% her own fault. Nigger model is a small debuff which doesn't matter much in the end, but taking a whole month off for the dumbest reason at the most crucial point in her career is so beyond retarded that I can't even fathom how someone could come to that decision. It also seems like she doesn't know what she wants to stream, apart from 12 hours of pokeymen, which will inevitably end.
She's also just boring and her accent is dumb but hey, that's the least of her problems

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>>13615734
still making more money than 3 of her genmates
maybe its those parasites like Mumei and Baelz that need to wake up and start working

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>>13615819
try to bait better anon

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>>13615734
>small debuff
this is the biggest debuff you could possibly get
it completely kills interest from a large chunk of the audience

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>>13615819
>t. sapling not holding their oshi accountable

fauna is the laziest of them all wasted model

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>>13616007
>>13614959
You are welcome to disprove that "bait"

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>>13615375
>also only go dark skin if the girl knows how to play a Gyaru
To begin with gyaru isn't even a thing in the west and the closest equivalent is viewed as tacky/rachet and is in general received negatively. Gyarus should be reserved for Japanese chuubas. Racial characters is kind of a touchy subject so it is best left alone.

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>>13616059
It is A debuff for sure, but she's not actually responsible for it, and it also really pales in comparison to her own personal horrible decisions and qualities

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>>13614669
Don't trust Ina

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>>13615375
The break wouldn't have been a problem if it was a reasonable 1, 2 week max break.

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>>13616059
Being brown isn't a debuff, the model is just shit, but even then compared to her model the biggest debuff is her voice and accent, anyone who gave her a chance despite the bad model certainly got filtered by her voice

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I like the big brown boobs and the loincloth design, but she just isn't interesting and her head/face is weird with awful accessories.

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seems like killing her dog helped her
the sheer amount of pity superchats pretending to feel bad for her has bloated her numbers

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>>13616292
Sana has a message for you
https://streamable.com/95c46y

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>>13616292
Like, I legit don't get it. People don't get month long breaks when a close relative dies, it's a couple of days to settle things and back into the work grinder you go. And Sana did it for a pet. I get it, losing a pet sucks and I feel sorry for her, but COME THE FUCK ON

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>>13614784
or offline

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>>13616103
Mumei, Fauna, and Bae streams 4 days out of the week on averages but aren't really doing well SC wise. Kronii streams a lot less often than the rest council but still makes the most in SC. So if you pick a bigger leach, pick Kronii.

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>>13616365
seriously, what is the point of a vtuber idol with a shit voice who can't sing?

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>>13614669
Sana (and Melfissa) took breaks during their first few months. And they are both the absolute bottom of subs.

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>>13614669
There is no lesson to learn. She didn't lose them any money and now she's back to making them money. The higher-ups clearly don't give a fuck just like they don't give a fuck that Ayame doesn't stream. I think what Sana did was incredibly disrespectful but the simple fact is because the entire fanbase views the girls as precious angels, there isn't a whole lot management can do to them. Matsuri is a prominent example of this but I personally would also be terrified to cross her out of principle.

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>>13616468
>makes more money than both the biggest leeches combined
>she is somehow the leech
Mumei and Baelz need to graduate
Its obvious they are not fit to stream in a company

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>>13616931
>>makes more money than both the biggest leeches combined

>membership money doesn't count
>ads revenue also doesn't

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>>13616996
In what universe do baelz and mumei have more members than fucking kronii? This was during the first week of her memberships

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fuck off with your debuff. she did this to herself.

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>>13616996
That's exactly right, data we don't have access to doesn't count.

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>>13617077
Sorry, I was thinking you were saying Sana makes more money than Baelz and Mumei. If you're talking about Kronii then I agree

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>>13614669
>Despite taking a whole month off she's still kept SCs high

The lesson? Men into delicious brown are the 1%

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>Told her she can stream what she wants as long as they have perms for it
What are they supposed to learn when they permitted her to essentially do whatever she wanted?

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>>13616860
>I think what Sana did was incredibly disrespectful
What did she do? I'm out of the loop here, I don't keep up with her at all

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/vt/: they're all bad streamers and their ability isn't remotely relevant to their success because they're in hololive
also /vt/: her ability as a streamer is obviously responsible for her lack of success, never mind that she's in hololive

really makes you think

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>>13617267
She had Yagoo birth a horse calf live on stream

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Not many people like 90s anime aesthetics, sadly

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>>13617240
>can stream anything
>doesn't

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>>13614669
Never trust Susan

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>>13617346
Newfag take notes, don't take anything /here/ genuinely seriously
these people are actual fucking schizos

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>>13614669
Cover should also cares about the talent pet

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>>13614784
Her being black isn't even the biggest issue with the model. Fanart easily makes her look good. The model itself is just weird, and kind of dopey.

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>>13616103
weak, and not interesting enough, but have your (you)

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>>13617346
They're both true but you're pretending to be retarded by misconstructing the arguments
their ability isn't remotely relevant to their success because they're in hololive (In comparison to the vtuber sphere)
her ability as a streamer is obviously responsible for her lack of success (in comparison to her genmates and hololive members)

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>>13615166
That's some strange arm and shoulder anatomy

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Why people don't like her model? WHY?
>gyaru
>90s anime face
>huge tits
>bare legs and feet
>hair candy
WHY???
It's perfect.

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>>13616398
what's the source for that clip

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>>13614669
No blacks, no aussies, no dogs.

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>>13614669
Cover just can't handle models with brown characters. Other companies, even small startups, fare much much better with brown girls.

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Mumei=Bae>Fauna>Sana>Power Gap>Kronii>heat dead of the universe>Omegay

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>>13618316
Unarchived karaoke when she came back

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>>13618195
Some of those things simply don't go well together

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>>13614669
dont let ina choose her friends
nepotism kills businesses

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>>13618195
Humanity is too weak to handle such perfection

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I think the design issue is overblown. Bigger problem was that her very first stream after debut, when she could've used her momentum, was her horoscopes stream.

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>>13615239
>do not let them take several weeks off for the death of a pet
Ideally no, but if you deny her and starts going menhera mid stream, it might be even worse

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>>13618195
Zommers and 3rd worlders don't like it. Those groups give views, but don't have money, so Sana is 2nd is SCs as the adult white man's choice

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>>13618180
Thanks /ic/, what would we do without you?

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>>13618195
I just don't like the person behind the model. I wanted to love her because the model is pure sex, but right out of the gate she just didn't grab me. The sperging out over her dog for a month while taking membership money then telling people to fuck off really put me off her permanently though. Shit just isn't professional and reeks of menhera.

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>>13614669
She has NO jawline

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>>13616398
And that worked well for her? kek fuck you back Sana

[Anonymous No.]

Holocouncil is dogshit across the board. At least irys panned out talentwise but cover fucked that up too by hiring redjuice. When is EN gen 3 coming?

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>>13618507
Fauna>Mumei>Bae>Kronii>>>>>>>>>>Sana

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>>13619046
>sperging out
thats a funny word for grieving

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dumb dog ruined her debut buff

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>>13614669
I say >>13614743 >>13614847
Ina wanted her friend in hololive, but not everyone is a entertainer, there are plain, average people and that's fine.

Sana would have done fine as just a 2view art streamer on twitch

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>>13617958
Except that when people use the former they always say that people watch them regardless of ability only because they're holos - objectively, not compared to other vtubers
For the latter statement to be true the former cannot be

[Anonymous No.]

>all these threads about Sana being the weak link of Council and Hololive as a whole
And yet Sana's streams are way more entertaining than Kronii's.

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>>13614669
That it will be awhile till we see another brown chuuba

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>>13619968
The audience clearly disagrees, which is the only thing that matters to the shareholders

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>>13617573
I thought this website was supposed to be for unfiltered opinions not endless bait, there's even a report option for trolling outside of /b and yet it's everywhere, is this truly all 4chan, or at least the /Vt board has to offer?

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>>13619951
SOME people will always be attached to a brand first and foremost, the person behind it is irrelevant. Sana debuted under hololive, her streams could be a literal black screen with no audio and some people would still come and say it's amazing and creative and whatnot.
It's the same as girls on twitch with 10 viewers who have 2-3 insane lonely virgins donating thousands of dollars to them. There's always SOMEONE who will support you no matter what, as long as you get that initial viewerbase boost

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>>13619890
Artists are inherently boring streamers on twitch and that's okay because it takes a lot of work to become an art streamer that can entertain while drawing at the same time. Sana being a nepotism hire who never really did her reps as an art streamer meant she's just incredibly boring otherwise. Even Ina did a ton of art streams before she got into Hololive.

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>>13620206
I'm strictly talking about Sana as a streamer/entertainer, not as a fantasy girlfriend. Kronii is garbage tier and her audience just wants to fuck her, they don't give a shit about her streams.

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>>13618866
I'm "technically" in the zoomer generation and I absolutely love those things about her so just remember not all of us zoomers are tasteless tards

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>>13614669
>What lessons should Cover corp learn from Tsukomo Sana's first few months?
Fire EN management. Fire OMEGA. Fire Enma. Fire Jenna. Literally Fire everyone who speaks English in Cover. I HATE EN meddling. I HATE overly designed vtubers and I absolutely HATE dumb LORE mumbo jumbo fairytale shit. For the love of God please just give me JK vtubers, Kemono Mimi vtubers, Just PLEASE give me simple K-On levels of Cute kino. PLEASE. That is all I'm asking from Cover. Delete EN and focus on JP 100%

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>>13619951
Holo guarantees you success in the vtuber world, it doesn't guarantee that you will become the next pekora and gura, althought sana can't scrap mid holo levels. Nothing about the statements contradict themselves, holos ARE guaranteed success even if they're boring as shit, as an example anya even with her 800 viewers is in the top of the top of ID vtubers, but they aren't guaranteed to be as successful as other hololive members

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>>13619968
All of council aside from bae are terrible entertainers, don't be proud about being better than fucking kronii of all people

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>>13614669
Huge tits are a debuff and lolis are a buff

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>>13620436
But Kronii's voice is pure sex tho

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>>13620549
your idea of a good entertainer must be someone who's obnoxiously loud and constantly cracks one-liners

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>>13620247
That's very conveniently lopsided in one direction isn't it? So when a holo pulls 20k it's all thanks to the brand and doesn't mean they aren't a terrible streamer, but when they don't pull 3k it's all because of them and it can't be due to other factors.

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Sana's got all the debuffs, and JP clippers can't understand her accent either!

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>>13620467
>dumb LORE mumbo jumbo fairytale shit
Is it just one retard high in EN management who keeps pushing it? No one likes it, no one gives a shit, talents themselves openly ridicule it and play it for laughs at best, but they keep shoving it into everything constantly

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>>13619968
Nobody is saying that Sana is not entertaining but you have to get pass all the debuffs to notice it.

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Lol

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>>13620847
If you can't understand Sana you can't understand english period.

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>>13619510
never. I have a feeling IRyS and Council flopping was the first domino of EN's demise

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>>13618195
She looks goofy because of the way her neck is proportioned to her head and how flat her face looks.

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>>13620941
It's the JP clippers after all!

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>>13619046
>Telling people to fuck off
Imagine getting shit on for a month online and just taking it. That moment cemented her as non-menhera. She wasn't a blubbering mess like people expected, nor did she drag her feelings out over the course of weeks in meek SC readings.
>Muh professionalism
Now she streams more than any other member. Stay filtered.

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>>13620845
A holo can't pull less than X fans because they got brand recognition, it's literally impossible to fail. You will never end up a complete failure, and that's no thanks to your own efforts at all.
A holo CAN'T pull more than Y fans unless they're a good streamer and entertainer. More people won't actually watch you unless you are fun to watch, you will just be left with the same bare minimum of X forever.
There's a wide gap between a failure (random indie) and a success (Gura), and that's where all holos fall into. You cannot fail in hololive, regardless of your own qualities. That doesn't mean you'll succeed.

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>>13614669
Hiring Koreans is a mistake.

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>>13618195
weird color palette

[Anonymous No.]

I swear if some talent's whole family would've died in a terrorist attack you all motherfuckers would be sperging out if they took a break longer than a week.

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>>13621211
If a person took a month long break from work for a relative's death, they'd be fired.
If a person took a month long break from work for a pet's death, they'd be laughed and and then fired.

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>>13620845
>So when a holo pulls 20k it's all thanks to the brand
No, it's both their own effort AND the brand, the point is that even if you get 1k minimun you're a complete success in the vtuber and streamer world, but being the least viewed and least subscribed of your branch, you can't really argue that it's not because of her own qualities

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>>13621211
>living in bongistan

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>>13621191
Also this

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>>13621111
>Imagine getting shit on for a month online and just taking it.
You talk like she got aqua levels of hate lmao, no one but this place dared to critizise her break

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>>13621360
Careful, that's treading terribly close to implying that stream numbers correlate directly to streamer quality.

[Anonymous No.]

don't hire talents with old dogs

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>>13620749
For the next 2 months. Then the new toy smell will wear off.

[Anonymous No.]

her telling haters to fuck off on her return was a high point
it sure sent all the little squealers here into a seething frenzy and they still haven't recovered

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>>13614737
>>13614743
>>13614769
>>13614779
>>13614784
>>13614802
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>>13616860
Coping and Money Mogged by the Bogan
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>>13617698
> Fanart easily makes her look good.
because they whitewash her, nazi

[Anonymous No.]

>>13622146
her name is chud

[Anonymous No.]

>>13622342
you mean chode

[Anonymous No.]

I like her

[Anonymous No.]

HOLY KEK vt is still seething about sana LMAO god i love her so much more now. the fuck you still hurts huh vt?

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>>13622404
nah I'm seething BECAUSE I love Sana, she deserves better than this

[Anonymous No.]

Sana is only watchable in a meeting stream

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>>13623274
id rather have her have a loyal small fanbase than what chumpedos/krontards have

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>>13614669
unironically fire the rotten wound who spams lore everywhere

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>>13616059
Can you debuff-tards explain why I, a literal white supremacist, do not find the dark skinned models unappealing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13622146
kys

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>>13614669
1- Dont give long breaks to your talents when they are barely starting if not for a really good reason (No, her dog is not a good reason sanafags, 1 week is enough)
2-Check better if the nepotism hire fits any public or timezone you need to fill
3-Don't give her a shitty design, nowadays the model is very important (Ngl I'm okay if she is tanned, but these fucking hair shouldn't have these balls and her clothes should be better)

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>>13614669
Hire obscure hard-working talented artist instead of famous ones for design
Hire fucking nationals, instead of some chingchong SEAnigger who will have travel issues, specially in pandemic
Hire FUCKING NEETS, why hire dumbasses busy with work or university?
Hire girls with work ethic unlike the lazy pieces of shit that are the likes of the council
Hire girls who can put actual content instead of doing crap like watchalong or superchat-reading despite streaming three times a week
Hire single woman

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>>13624854
>Hire FUCKING NEETS, why hire dumbasses busy with work or university?
>Hire girls with work ethic unlike the lazy pieces of shit that are the likes of the council
interesting how your shit conflicts within your own post

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>>13624939
thats a lot of seethe, holotroon
would you like some cope with that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13624989
Trying too hard to sound like a 4channer

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>>13625018
how many genders are there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13625069
I don't know orange lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>13625094
>cant answer properly because it triggers it
i'll take the W here, plebbit troon

[Anonymous No.]

>barely started
>takes a month off because her dog died
A week, tops.

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>>13625123
Your the one seeming triggered in this whole exchange you went from 0 to 100 in one post. Rational untriggered individuals don't do that.

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>>13624989
But he has the reason tho? It's a miracle to find another chuuba like Pekora, having those 2 points is pretty difficult by itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>13623869
doesn't sound like you're a white supremacist then

[Anonymous No.]

>>13623869
your groupmates would be disappointed

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>>13625185
shhh you still havent answered how many genders there are? why would you think I'll take an sjw simp seriously?

[Anonymous No.]

>don´t listen to omega
based chimken

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>>13624382
face reps

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>>13625304
And you haven't tried to defend how your post conflicts internally, just moved to Ad Homidium, so why should I answer any questions you give me, knowing you are arguing in bad faith from the start?

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>>13625349
Fair enough
https://files.catbox.moe/meu0ti.png

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>>13617698
>Her being black isn't even the biggest issue
No it's just that, she is black that's all needed for the hordes to skip her, blaming that she is autralian, or the colors, her accent, rigger, all of that is hard cope,
Amerimutts loves to give bullshit gymnastic explanations for something so simple

[Anonymous No.]

>if you go brown, do it right
>don't hire people that 90% of English speakers can't understand
>don't hire people with very little work ethic
> don't hire people with very little entertainment value
>don't hire people who say they're into astronomy then say that Pluto is a planet

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>>13625681
>don't hire people that 90% of English speakers can't understand
SEA dont speak English either.

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>>13614737
Fpbp

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>>13616419
>People don't get month long breaks when a close relative dies
Is it your belief that people only take short breaks in these cases out of choice rather the necessity of making money and keeping their job? If a person didn't have to worry about pissing off their superiors at work do you think they still wouldn't take long breaks to deal with tragedies? I think you need to remember what kind of society we live in.

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>>13625681
>don't hire people that 90% of English speakers can't understand
If you seriously can't understand her accent you are not fluent in English.

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>>13626106
If people seriously can't understand her, she's not fluent in English.

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>>13618195
>Why people don't like her model? WHY?
How do you fuck up a concept a as simple as 'astrology-themed dark skin space giantess'?

Here's how
1. Give her shit color palette that fucks up her silhouette so that she looks like a deformed sanic
2. Add superfluous elements like gummy worm, mosquito repellant tiara, gummy rabbit. At least the crab is astrology related
3. Give her a million mile death stare followed by a blank expression.
4. Fuck up her rigging so her ear is placed at he back of her neck

Those are just her design and rigging issues.
At least design issues can be fixed but things like motivation and enthusiasm are really hard to change.

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>>13626106
Accent? That's a whole other language she has there. It's easier to understand a drunk Scotsman or the glugluing of an Indian than what she tries to pass off as English

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>>13614743
This, people will never learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620320
There are artists that break the mold. Marine, Saruei, Honey Goblin is well liked, but they still like doing art streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
no idea but I love her pokemon streams

[Anonymous No.]

>announce Flare
>she looks like a fucking lizard
>announce Sana
>she has fucking Jaundice
>both have crap rigging
Yeah yeah "brown debuff hurr"
At least make them look good

[Anonymous No.]

>>13626835
Nijis brown girls look just fine. Brown is a holo problem

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>>13626760
I didn't know baguette does art streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617366
Can we really even call them people at that point?

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly she's a very good streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>13626911
>Nijis brown girls look just fine.
Kyoko, Marin, Mao, and Aadya might as well have light skin. All the same watered-down coffee tint.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620320
Shigure Ui is best artist streamer
Also SEX

[Anonymous No.]

>>13627416
Ui is in a league of her own.

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>>13627392
Kyoko and Mao are basically the same shade as Flare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13626484
>1. Give her shit color palette that fucks up her silhouette so that she looks like a deformed sanic
Anon, I think you have autism. Normal people would not readily construct such a mental picture. That was really funny though.

[Anonymous No.]

>kino debut intro
>subtle humour
>kino collab with Ina leading to a legendary debate
>destroys Earth multiple times in Universe Sandbox and her comeback stream (France is part of Earth)
>somehow makes Evil God Korone playthrough entertaining during it's arc
>makes Mumei go insane by simply fishing in Animal Crossing
>is currently on an endurance stream streak of Pokemon
>beats the shit out of Ollie in Pokemon
>builds a cinnamon roll shelter for AFK Mumei in Minecraft
>makes backseaters seethe by intentionally obtaining sand with a pickaxe in Minecraft
>confuses the CEO of the company by telling him to birth a horse
>is currently threatening a police officer to beat him up and steal his wallet as I'm writing this

What does it take to make you all satisfied?

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>>13620467
>I HATE overly designed vtubers and I absolutely HATE dumb LORE mumbo jumbo fairytale shit.
who's going to tell him

[Anonymous No.]

>>13627392
>Marin
Seeing someone refer to Hayama by her first name is weird as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13628308
I like her, but I'm not going to pretend she's absolutely flawless and defend retarded decisions. I'm not BLACKSTAR300.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13623608
>i do not want my oshi to be literally set for life after hololive

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>>I HATE overly designed vtubers and I absolutely HATE dumb LORE mumbo jumbo fairytale shit.
>who's going to tell him

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
Don't let the ATF mingle with their talent

[Anonymous No.]

>>13628308
>subtle humour
There is nothing subtle about Sana and her chat running tired jokes into the ground. That's one of her worst aspects if anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614959
Thread should have ended here. She's drawing more dimes with less views. Imagine she got Bae's viewership. Assuming proportion continues and she didn't just get whales, she'd break $100k.

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>>13628308
>is currently threatening a police officer to beat him up and steal his wallet as I'm writing this
And /vt/ wants me to believe she's not black.

[Anonymous No.]

>>subtle humour
>There is nothing subtle about Sana and her chat running tired jokes into the ground. That's one of her worst aspects if anything

[Anonymous No.]

so what discord is raiding this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
Massive breaks kill growth
Youtube as a platform is unreliable and fickle
Westerners don't actually want minority (which is to say dark skinned, Asians only count as minorities when it's convenient) representation. They say they do but they don't.

>>13614769
>t. seanigger

[Anonymous No.]

>Massive breaks kill growth
>Youtube as a platform is unreliable and fickle
>Westerners don't actually want minority (which is to say dark skinned, Asians only count as minorities when it's convenient) representation. They say they do but they don't.
>>>13614769 #
>>t. seanigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>13625681
"Planet" is not a word some committee gets to redefine.

[Anonymous No.]

>Sana needs some quick buck on the side and wants to get into Hololive.
>Gets Ina to help her get in.
>Cover refuses.
>Ina threatens to quit because she already doesnt give a shit and has more lucrative gigs.
>Cover : Ok, ok, fine. She can be the nigger of the group".

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>>13628915
Sorry I'm new I meant to reply to >>13628915 lol

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>>13628988
retardchama....

[Anonymous No.]

>>13628955
So are Ceres, Eris, Makemake, and Huamea planets too for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13626522
t. never actually been to Scotland

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>>13626522
That's rich. Tell me what he says in the first 10 seconds of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YfRbNipdOg

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>>13629622
>fookin' headin' to the bru (to grab an irnbru? wtf)
>unintelligible gibberish
>an' I pass these couple of buses at the side of the road
>everyone's payin' off (or at?) the front man
I give up what the fuck is this shit scotland

[Anonymous No.]

brb I'll give her one chance in this pokemon stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
do not make absolutely garbage designs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13626522
How can I, an ESL, understand Sana perfectly while EOPs in this thread are crying over how she sounds as if she's speaking in alien?
Am I beating the burgers at their own game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13629844
>EoP
It's SEAniggers anon, always has been.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13629622
>>13629730
https://youtu.be/M_9FHihGD2Y

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
don't hire a bogan off the back of nepotism

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>>13616094
she's too busy with her boyfriend, please understand

[Anonymous No.]

What are you guys talking about with nepotism

[Anonymous No.]

>>13629622
"fucking heading to the brew. Heading there to get my gyro (?) and I pass a couple of busses at the side of the road"
I love Limmy's show even though I'm not Scottish, this is one of the harder to understand sketches, I admit I had to listen to it a couple of times

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>>13630125
post proof I want to get cucked

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>>13630654
if you arnt from the uk you wont know but giro is an old way of saying unemployment benifits

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616143
Gen 7 better have a gyaru vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

My oshi is a very emotionally weak person and became really close to a pet she got just a few months ago. She mentioned how she had felt so isolated over the past year, and that her new pet was finally something friendly she could rely on for the first time in a long time.
That pet suddenly and tragically died on her, and after ONE (1) unscheduled break day for mourning, she came right back to streaming just as well as she had been. Just saying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620320
Squchan is actually a very good art streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13634106
dead dog is a code word for other family issues. you really think she took so long to mourn for the dead dog?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614743
what do you mean nepotism

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>>13614959
Baelz is a chink apologist? Meds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13629869
>>EoP
>It's SEAniggers anon, always has been.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13634305
Sana is Ina's friend, Ina pulled strings to get her in.
Milky Queen is Mori's friend, Milky Queen has pride so she didn't want to get in like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13634517
I don't know why, but I recognize this face everywhere. Literally this is what a SEApeeps would look like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620467

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>>13628629
if she has Baelz's viewership, the saviorfags would save someone else in Council.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13634204
is this why they keep pets on stream, to have a pocket excuse if they need to

[Anonymous No.]

>>13634204
>I have schizophrenia and believe in codes that only I can decipher with my grand intelligence
Seek professional help now.
Shit, sorry, I forgot to encode my message so it reaches your deteriorating mind. Read this greentext instead:
>Anon your dog just died it's time for your break.

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>>13617267
>"anyone who said I shouldn't have taken a long break, fuck you, tehe"
That was the deal breaker for me. I pretty much apreciate all the girls, even the ones I almost dislike like that weakling Aqua but this was unforgivable

[Anonymous No.]

>>13630702
lemonleaf bf

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>>13618195
sana is too high energy to SEAniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>13634634
Newfagerino...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13629730
>fookin' headin' to the bru to get my giro (this means he was going to get neetbux)
>everyone's piling off the front one

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
I've grown to like every Council member quite a bit EXCEPT Sana. So I want to like her really badly, but I just don't get anything from her. Maybe it just needs more time, idk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13635631
I was intrigued by her at debut. Got filtered by her indie game choices and weird streams like astrology. Still wanted to give her a chance but then she took a long break over a fucking dog and now I’ve lost all interest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
Don't hire Australians (their time zone is not compatible with the NA crowd). Don't make dark brown characters. Don't hire someone because one of your members recommends them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614769
But Bae doesn't hide her accent.

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>>13614669

[Anonymous No.]

Stop hiring artists with no experience in entertainment, they're just boring.
I also imagine that hert telling everyone mad about her silence for the entire time to fuck off probably didn't sit well with many.

I can understand perfectly wanting to take time off to grieve, nobody's asking for a stream, just a little thing here and there, even if its for your members but she couldn't even do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618195
SEAniggers struggle with accents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13626484
>gummy rabbit
It's a moon rabbit you dumb SEAnigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13640056
>wasn't in last place for all of 6 hours
Sana bros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13640129
The time to grieve thing was a flimsy excuse. She still showed up in all the collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13640672
She is still above the other 4 holoxs, for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
Not from her two months but from these last two years: Don't be faggots who can't bother doing jack shit for their talents, don't be a black company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616477
Gura, or Coco for that matter, aren't as good as you think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616860
Based J-chad being, well, chad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616059
If Sana looked, acted, and sounded like Sara from Prism Project I guarantee she would be above Kronii or at least second in her Gen.

[Anonymous No.]

I also think another problem is Pako is not good at drawing cute woman his talent is drawing men and drawing more hardcore woman. The faces he draws are always more chiseled it doesn’t work if you’re trying to make a cute character.

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>>13614959
I-Is this the power of EN 2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620841
I can smell you from a very long distance, you know?

[Anonymous No.]

Kek this thread was up yesterday and it hasn't gained many posts in a whole day. Empty just like Sana's viewcount

[Anonymous No.]

>>13621211
You're talking to /pol/ spergs who go by the "muh human layf is the only worthy layf" and "muh feefees bad!", so of course they'd pull that card on you. I am fucking clairvoyant at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13657452
this /pol/ guy here with us right now?

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>>13625094
Of course the idiot had to be an egg. KEK.

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>>13616398
Kinda based, but also she can't pull it off. Needs to be more forceful like Ame or her twitch oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13625470
2

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>>13624382
This looks like shit though

[Anonymous No.]

>>13625069
I feel like I've been transported 5 years in the past with this epic quip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614769
This.
I spend days pre-debut spamming fanart of her and saying I wanted to suck on her fat chocolate milker's only for her debut and for me to get filtered and never watching her again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13658208
>>13658127

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>>13628308
Simple: She's based, faggots in this site are not. In fact, that's a disservice to actual homosexuals, these pests can't be called anything, really. Sana best. Sana love. I am the Sanallite.

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>>13634883

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>>13616365
>Being brown isn't a debuff
Tell that to Flare, the only girl of her gen to not hit 1m subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
don't give someone a black avatar if they're not actually black.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13658693
wait WHAT

[Anonymous No.]

I thought Japanese people liked tanned girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13658739
anon, your google reps....

[Anonymous No.]

>>13658693

[Anonymous No.]

>>13631068
You want a gyaru chuuba? Accept Qpi into your life.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMp55EbT_ZlqiMS3lCj01BQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>13638233
Bae's accent barely sounds Australian to me, she sounds more SEA than anything. I'm a bogan though

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
No letting new talents take month long breaks during the crucial fan base building period after debut, doesnt matter if dog died, force them to at least stream a few times a week. The girls need to learn to secretly cope with things while streaming, it builds a stronger character for future drama to come, especially working for a big name vtuber group that is the center of various things.

[Anonymous No.]

You shouldn't force a dark skin character design on somewhat that clearly doesn't want it.
Even if it's a provenly buff for supas as seen with Flare and Sana herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>13658543
You niggas are always too focused on subs and popularity. Who gives a fuck about that. Flare is 10th in Hololive (12th global) on superchat revenue and is probably selling a shiton on merch too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13628627
That's not really a mark against her since every single chat beats jokes like a dead horse.

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't all of you just admit luck means everything? She had bad luck, little suscribers, and yes, I mean from the very beggining and before whatever perceived or 'real' yab happened. While others have fucking luck and bang, they're 'the best' and 'superior'. Go ahead, /vt/, try showing me an ounce of truth. I beseech thee.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13659105
Bae sounds 110% Australian to me.
t.Ausfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>13659774
Many people think that "popular = good" no matter their actual talent so things keep snowballing.

Besides sub and view numbers mean little. Flare makes big bucks while being the smallest of her gen and Towa for the longest time was bottom of the barrel but made lot of money, essentially she was mini-Flare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614959
Please tell me what website that's from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13660025
not really. are you anglo? else your words are useless

[Anonymous No.]

>>13660433
I'm white as they come mate. Baelz doesn't sound like anything other than an Aussie to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13660174
Many people think that "money = happiness" no matter how the actual talent is recognized and loved.

For many after certain financial threshold, it's about love, recognition, and growth not money thrown by the same gachikois

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
announce and debut on the same day. Susan is confused by this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13660433
like the other cunt said, bae is very much aussie

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
YES MY DARK

[Anonymous No.]

>>13660935
There's a correlation between money earned and being loved in this business. Watching, chatting and subbing is free so getting money for it is recognition.

[bagman !!aqf9qPpu4br No.]

>>13614669
"If you're gonna create a brown character, design her right and give her to a larger than life personality."

There was a recolor of Sana posted here where she still had brown skin, but it actually looked like delicious mocha.

In ck trast, Sana's current coloring/shading is just off, the design itself isn't that good, the rigging is mediocre, and Sana just doesn't have a sexy enough persona to do a brown character justice. After all, brown characters are usually the darker and edgier ones with a higher charisma stat to make them seem erotic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
don't give the best model to the worst girl of the bunch

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
"If you're gonna create a brown character, design her right and give her to a larger than life personality."

There was a recolor of Sana posted here where she still had brown skin, but it actually looked like delicious mocha.

In contrast, Sana's current coloring/shading is just off, the design itself isn't that good, the rigging is mediocre, and Sana just doesn't have a sexy enough persona to do a brown character justice. After all, brown characters are usually the darker and edgier ones with a higher charisma stat to make them seem erotic.

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>>13614669
She is beautiful and will soon be my wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>13661247
>>13660827
I cant hear it. so that leaves us with both of you being sjws who dont want to seem racist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13661677
Sorta like IRyS and her tan skin? She has the personality to pull it off too

[Anonymous No.]

Design is everything. (includes l2d/rigging)

No blacks allowed.

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>>13661530
talking about growth anon. Growth in recognition and love, and that sure as hell has no correlation to money earned. There's a reason why sanafags beat the same drum that while their oshi isn't loved at least she earns decent money

[Anonymous No.]

>>13661787
If you can't hear it you're either not an Aussie yourself or should get your hearing checked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13662024
I don't know who is coping harder. The one with very good ratio or the ones with disproportionately bad ratio.

[Anonymous No.]

Once you go black...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13621953
absolute delusion

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614959
>Make stinkpiece after stinkpiece about how Sana is being marginalized because of her skin color
>Not even that far behind her genmates despite being AFK for a month, even making more money

[Anonymous No.]

>>13663020
that's because of saviour fags

[Anonymous No.]

>>13663020
>even making more money
>membership money doesn't count
>ads revenue also doesn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>13663160

We have no way of knowing what the membership numbers are. We might assume they match subscriber ratios, but then we might think the same thing about superchats if we didn't know better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13663160
Yes that's correct, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13658962
>Valorant, Valorant, Valorant, Apex, Apex, Apex
Nah, I'm fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13660827
Okay wog

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614669
>takes a long ass break after debut
>stream the same shitty boring games
>supposedly got in because can draw but doesn't
>a twitch thot whore for baiting SC
it's like Kiara but black and Kiara can actually use time-zone excuses and main genre of games for her numbers and STILL make some original stuff
>music
>events like holotalk
>organize big collabs (altough shitty most of the times, but I appreciate the effort)
and talking about collabs, I literally don't see any reason for anyone that's not Ina to collab with her
>boring personality
>boring talk topics
>boring overused memes
>boring taste in games
>boring taste in consumer media

[Anonymous No.]

>>13651823
shes perfect

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614743
>That nepotism was a mistake.
Second Post Best Post

[Anonymous No.]

>>13664714
Not a single drop of blood from any country that would be considered a wog in my blood, even if there was I don't see how that would stop Bae from sounding Aussie as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616419
>Mel's grandfather kicks the bucket
>distraught Mel asks for some time to sort through things (1 month)
>returns before 1 month passes and ends her whoreish ways and commits to streaming more than ever wholeheartedly as Mel
>was still practicing for her banger birthday/halloween concert that took effort from all parties to make a success

>sana: a pet dies
>takes a whole month off
>returns to your regularly scheduled "it's fucking nothing"
>passive agressive to viewers about it afterwards
lmao
Which one is more deserving of views, even if you're an eop?

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like not taking a month off because of the family hound would be a start

[Anonymous No.]

>>13665128
don't forget she killed regular council collabs, dragging down the rest of council because of it, remember how long myth stuck to doing their weekly collab even if it was hard to schedule and times were tough?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13665232
another reason to hate omega for letting her take it instead of tossing her a week or two. Some 'God' they are if they can't forsee this decline

[Anonymous No.]

>>13663339
you can easily know that
just post the views on membership streams

[Anonymous No.]

what

[Anonymous No.]

>>13660827
It sounds mildly Australian but compared to Sana it definitely sounds more FOB. I have friends who moved here from the Phillipines or Malaysia who sound similar to her accent. I can understand how people who don't get filtered by Baelz would get filtered by Sana who's a sandgroper

[Anonymous No.]

>>13665073
yeah its obvious you're a sjw not wanting to sound racist

[Anonymous No.]

>>13666415
In what way is me, an Australian, saying someone else sounds like an Australian being an SJW who doesn't want to sound racist? I'll happily tell you how much I hate niggers if that makes you feel better?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13666485
look mate, she doesnt aussie to me. her SEA accent comes through clearly. you're just coping and deflecting to not sound racist. dont what to tell ya

[Anonymous No.]

>>13666485
Her accent just sounds milder to me, I watch both regularly and Baelz speaks with rhotic pronunciation (she pronounces the 'r's in words) vs Sana who uses very exaggerated non rhotic english, which she sometimes makes fun of (watah vs waterr)

[Anonymous No.]

Sana could've gotten at least double the subs she has now if her design looked more like this. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking with her current design, especially since Sana herself is an artist.