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Minecraft isn't enough anymore so Cover's making an MMO. How do they make it good and actually worth playing?

>> No.13226023

>>13225982
They cant, too poor.

>> No.13226041

mmos r crap

>> No.13226055

it's going to be a buggy mess, I can't wait.

>> No.13226063

You get to have sex with the holos

>> No.13226070

This is old and speculation. Kill yourself

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>>13225982
>MMO
>PC only
the real money is in gacha mobile games

>> No.13226100

>>13225982
They literally just need to make a semi decent gacha game and they'll make millions.

>> No.13226132

I am confused. Are you going to play as the Holos or are the Holos going to be NPCs? Like, can I play as Marine or do I need to save Sora from some evil monster?

>> No.13226185

>>13226100
anon, they are making PC game, 100% in Unity, simply because of free assets.
gamedev muzukashi, also check games Cover made, and laugh

>> No.13226186

>>13226070
this was less than a month ago, autist-chama

https://alt.hololive.tv/news/208/

>> No.13226199

Theres no way they can make an MMO, there's no chance that they can even make it a Games as a Service title like Genshin. Most it will probably be is just a proof of concept or a buggy abandoned early access survival game.

>> No.13226210

>>13226186
fuck you. I am 6'8", ripped, and a millionaire. I will find you irl and destroy you with a single punch, don't fuck with me.

>> No.13226258

>>13225982
In the time they placed on their pipeline, it'll be a shit game. They either extend the delivery date or doom it to flop.

>> No.13226302

>>13226186
Still speculation and there were three threads with two of those above bump limit about it.

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>>13226132
looks like you customize your own character and the girls are NPCs/quest givers

>>13226210
your autism has no power here

>> No.13226381

>>13225982
MMO? With their budget? No way.

>> No.13226457

>>13226381
Yagoo is personally learning Unity and making it himself

>> No.13226487

They cant it wont be and i bet it will be a montized to hell and back gatcha like genshit

>> No.13226494

I just want player models to be fan mascots (RBC's batteries, Botan's SSRBs and whatever the fuck Nene has)

>> No.13226516

>>13226082
>hydro archer
>main weapon is a trident
The archer class sure is made of archers.

>> No.13226611

holoALT PV had 99k on its premiere, holoEarth will break 100k on first day

>> No.13226702

>>13226082
> bow
way to ruin it gachafag

>> No.13226735

>>13226516
>mage class
>summons tridents

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i just want to quest with my oshi and win her heart by giving her gifts and shit

>> No.13227085

>>13226516
>>13226702
Cali is already the polearm user so they gave Gura the bow, it makes sense because lore-wise Atlanteans were all archers that fired tridents at their enemies

>> No.13228338

>>13225982
The first question, then, is what would make an MMO version of Minecraft even remotely worth playing? I think you could build up the kind of world you'd want in Minecraft, get people playing, and have players interact in it, but there's another question that you must answer first: who the hell wants to play an MMO that's basically like Minecraft anyway?
So I think the right question to ask is what is the best version of Minecraft that they can come up with in order to make it an MMO? And the answer is clearly, no one has managed to do it yet. So no matter what you can think of for an MMO version of Minecraft, I think it's fair to say, you can't outdo Minecraft's creators in their creation of the best possible Minecraft game ever. You can, however, do pretty good at it. You can try to use some of the lessons learned from Minecraft to make a version that's fun and entertaining, and if you can, give it a try. But you don't have to play a version of Minecraft if you don't want to, and Minecraft still looks pretty good on its own.

>> No.13228640

>>13228338
Anon, people play among us, slither, apex and other games just to interact with Holos. You can make it a monthly subscription game and the gachis will not bat an eye. Throw in some gacha and some world building shit and it will literally print money.

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>>13226344
>>13225982
I honestly just want YAGOO to talk to the Craftopia devs and let them handle it, they could literally just drag and drop the girls MMD models in, hell RBC already did it a few times it works great, game is almost done too all they'd have to do is make the girls NPCs and add dialogue quest to them bam done !

>> No.13229812

>>13228338
>mmo minecraft
>hypixel, wynncraft, that one runescape ripoff that one canadian YouTuber made

>> No.13230093

>>13228338
The only appeal it has to have is the Hololive models and the chuubas voice acting them.

>> No.13230096

>>13225982
Goldshire Inn where the holos have a mandatory 3 hour shift every day.

>> No.13230459

>>13225982
Sounds cool. Everyone here saying "muh gacha" needs to blow their brains out immediately. Everything is not meant to be a huge success like genshin

>> No.13231471

>>13225982
I am going to join and shout racial obscenities

>> No.13231629

Cover has way to much nepotism autism to make even a decent mmo, if they give their talents subpar models and rigging why would they break the mould and get actual good developers to make a game?

>> No.13232587

>>13225982
The Meta killer

>> No.13232721

>>13225982
who the fuck is navigating this ship? someone tell them there's a massive fuck-off iceberg in their path

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>>13225982
>Produced by Amazon Lumber Studios

What's your reaction anons?

>> No.13233290

>>13232857
Who?

>> No.13234280

>>13225982
It'll be a pile of shit

>> No.13239236

>>13228795
that's too good an idea and makes too much sense, which is why it won't happen

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Guess who's in charge of lore and world-building.

>> No.13239963

>>13225982
MMOs are financial suicide if you are not already a billion dollar megacorporation.

>> No.13240195

> metaverse-type
kys FB, who tf wrote this

>> No.13240365

>>13239963
Naaah not rreally... Ive been renting a minecraft server for my whole class for a few months and it costs me less than 20$ a month

>> No.13240429

>>13228795
this looks amazing, which means cover will do the opposite and make sure it looks nothing like this

>> No.13240487

>>13228338
You misunderstand. The layman now uses "mmo" to refer to all multiplayer games were more than a dozen people play in an open world. Games like GTA online, Warframe and elite dangerous are qualified as "mmos" by the general populance. I highly suspect regular minecraft is also an mmo to these people.

>> No.13240551

>>13239963
Cover is worth tens of millions so they should be ok.

>> No.13240566

It's not an MMO you dumbfucks, it's more like multiplayer botw

>> No.13240598

>>13240566
So it's a genshin impact clone?

>> No.13240646

There's going to be sex mods

>> No.13240678

>>13240598
I played genshin for more than a dozen hours and never found no multiplayer component. I still doubt it has one.

>> No.13240680

>>13240566
I'd roll that gatcha.

>> No.13240745

>>13240598
No, it's a BoTW clone

>> No.13240795

>>13240678
>I played genshin
There's your problem

>> No.13240880

>>13240566
They'd want to do collabs with it so it's a BoTW clone that can support all the hologirls playing multiplayer at the same time

>> No.13241011

>>13225982
It will be a terrible game for us, but it will lead to some fun streams for them.

>> No.13241158

>>13228795
But that would require them to ever execute a single idea right without the help of their idols.
They've done that like, 3 times maybe 4 at most?

>> No.13241303

Ecelebs will become top players and collab with your oshi to raid the strongest bosses. I can already see Ollie organizing the collabs.

>> No.13242025

>>13226063
As much as I'd love to erp with my oshi this idea would be extremely stupid and risky from a business point of view.
Remember that japanese producer interview that gets posted usually? Guy explained how they tried to keep their musicians from sleeping with their fans because as soon as they did the "fantasy" was broken. As soon as the fans have sex with the guys they lost interest on buying merch because everything will pale in comparisson to having the actual guy in bed, so they won't be spending their money on that anymore.
Besides how autistic japs are with idol culture, I can see something similar happening with holos. Why would I watch her playing minecraft for 4 hours and send her a superchat to get her to say my name if I already have fucked her? Also at some point you will realize that if she had sex with you, she is probably did it with a shit ton of other fans too.

>> No.13242187

>>13225982
imagine playing something as cringe as a hololive MMO where you spend half your time doing fetch quests and the other half erp with fat neckbeards.
Where do I sign up?

>> No.13242282

>>13226185
>also check games Cover made
The AR app gets more buggy with each update, was playing with it a couple of days ago and Botan started shrinking until she dissapeared.

>> No.13242331

isn't this just NFT?
holobronies will boost HoloCoin to the moon

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>>13225982
Ffs, please just make a dating sim, thats all i need.
I want to eat ice cream with kronii and then rub her belly and she will secretly like it. After that we will spoon in her bed:
>dick hard on the butt
>titty in my hand
>kiss ya neck
>hell yeah

>> No.13243990

>>13225982
20 bucks it's a gatcha mmo like geishin impact

>> No.13245489

>>13243990
They mentioned they would have the lobby and the MMO as separate projects at dirst, which makes me believe they will test the waters before deciding on anything. If people seem more interested on the MMO game it will become a genchink impact clones. If people seem more interested in the lobby thing, it will become a vrchat clone.

>> No.13245600

>>13228795
>Craftopia
>Almost done
Lmao shut the fuck up, it took them months to do a ''race'' update and it's literally the base human model with fucking horns added and calling it a new race, game's boring and glitchy as fuck too.

>> No.13245613

>>13240365
You paid nothing to develop Minecraft and the game's current development is under the ownership of a billion dollar megacorporation.

>> No.13246452

>>13225982
Its really not that hard. Just copy whatever mmorpg is the most popular, and change the lore and characters to Hololive related.
They could copy FFXIV, but from the look of those screenshots already shown, they seem to be going for something like Genshin Impact.
Which I guess could be perfect. Just the gacha part with Holo girls would make millions.

>> No.13247915

>>13246452
It's basically vrchat with a genshin impact world and they'll be using it for concerts

>Tanigo says the Metaverse will also be a venue for fans of the virtual idols to watch them perform.
>“In the so-called metaverse, we are thinking of virtual live performances and online games in which Hololive’s own talents perform.”

>> No.13247971

>>13242025
You can already fuck the holos in VR with koikatsu

>> No.13249089

>>13239342
I hope he contracts covid and has to use a respirator for the rest of his life

>> No.13249147

>>13225982
It will become like dreamworld and the brainless Cover bootlicker will throw all their money at it

>> No.13249315

>>13240487
Anything over 12 people is massive for consoles.

>> No.13249575

>>13247971
Is not the same, this would be official models, and you could be erping with real people.

>> No.13249596

>MMO

one stop shop to bankruptcy lol

>> No.13249825

>>13225982
Fill it with tits and asses. A koikatsu mmo.

>> No.13250102

>>13249596
It would be nice to see a company go under from a mega budget MMO disaster again. One more time, just for old times sake, before the genre dies out completely.

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>log in
>see multiple Kiaras running around in the zone
>the dream of a KFP reich is alive

>> No.13251149

>>13225982
WoW killer

>> No.13251176

>genshin impact but holo
not gonna lie, i might actually play this

>> No.13251205

>>13225982
I hope this flops, they can just settle with a gacha game to get more bank, or a dating sim/Visual Novel

>> No.13251256

>>13251149
How do you kill that which is already dead

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>>13251256
Holy damage

>> No.13252315

>>13250102
This.
I can't wait for Hololive girls change into luxurious prostitutes for richest gachikois to try to save company from inevitable bankrupcy

>> No.13253918

>>13228795
>Craftopia
You actually made me look that up. Fuck you for making me expect it was any good.

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The contemporary term is Metaverse. Go with times you WoW dinosaurs. Just idling and chatting is what you've been doing most of the time before you dropped it anyway. This will be no different.

>> No.13254162

>>13225982
Probably dog shit as usual

>> No.13257680

>>13225982
no way they make an actual MMO, even on the cheaper end, they cost over 100 million dollars to make

>> No.13257700

>>13225982
Of all the damn games...an MMO? No no no no no.

>> No.13257898

>>13228338
A lot of popular MMOs are Minecraft without the graphics - resource grinding shitfests.
A lot of people would play that.

>> No.13257981

>>13226210
I’ll vouch for this guy I once saw him drop a movie usher with one punch

>> No.13258051

>>13245613
>current development
Fucking what development. Adding a few new blocks and playing around with noise generators to make new world gen? Oh, have some BEES while we are at it, and this little useless bastard that looks at light levels or whatever.
That fat bastard alone added more shit to the game by ratio compared to AN ENTIRE TEAM.
Minecraft is a shit example to use for that.
Minecrafts development is an inefficient mess of incompetent fuckwits that can't do something as simple as make a block generator to generator block faces automatically so they could make walls, slabs, fences and whatever the fuck else instantly without any work. EVERYTHING is manually done. Every single block.
A terrible example. The worst example.

>> No.13258172

>>13240551
Genshin costed ~100 mln $
That's more than Cover is worth

>> No.13258225

>>13258172
Genshin is not an mmo. It's a action rpg, like diablo or torchlight.

>> No.13258251

>>13243815
This.
Hololive VN would be superior option

>> No.13258366

>>13258225
Then is even more for Cover project.
MMOs are way more expensive.

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>>13225982
>Cover
>Doing things

>> No.13258839

inb4 vtuber version of star citizen

>> No.13259033

Does Yagoo think he can make a MMO with a dozen of interns? Lmao. It's gonna be Craftopia but worse.

>> No.13259041

>>13258839
Mark Hamill for Holostars English?

>> No.13259051

>>13226185
Cover's incompetency is growing proportionally to hololive's success.

>> No.13261828

>>13225982
Cover was a tech company before they even got into vtubers, I'm guessing they already have the models for the girls which just needs to be adapted to a unity 3d environment, add some basic physics and a few copypasted mini-games and you have the skeleton necessary for a collab stream.

>> No.13265828

>>13225982
How can they make HoloEarth the WoW killer

>> No.13265931

>>13259033
he managed to establish a multi-million vtuber company with a legion of broken girls through voodoo magic so i think he'll be fine

>> No.13265973

>>13259033
Unironically yes. Given how he sees SC donors throwing money and no complaints when Cover does jack shit for their talents, he is rightfully thinking that people will just throw money at this.

>> No.13266212

>>13265828
WoW cost more to develop two decades ago than Cover is currently worth now. If this isn't just a shitty Genshin clone with occasional multiplayer like other mainly single player games, it's going to bankrupt them. Not to mention it's barely been half a year since their recruitment spree, and they apparently have a prototype this month. Some of the shittiest MMOs take 2 years to develop, and they're trying to shit one out with random devs they've recruited in half the time.

>> No.13266292

>>13266212
I wouldn't be surprised if they are outsourcing some of the work to some dirt cheap Korean company, cost issues aside. But yeah, if they aren't careful this will be Cover's version of Final Fantasy the Spirit Within.

>> No.13266809

>>13266212
>WoW cost more to develop two decades ago than Cover is currently worth now.
WoW - $63 million
Genshin - $100 million
Cover Corp - $8 million

It's an order of magnitude difference. They need to be the next Gamestop (GME 226.35 +7.72%) if they want to do this.

>> No.13267157

>>13259033
He just has to make the shell, give a vague possibility that you may be able to play directly with your oshi and he'll make enough money to actually fund a AAA MMO

>> No.13267234

considering everyone is retarded ITT
where are you guys reading that its an MMO?
https://alt.hololive.tv/news/208/

>> No.13267425

>>13267234
>This lobby will serve as the gateway to Holoearth, where you can meet and converse with other fans. Here, you can recruit a party to go adventuring within the sandbox game.
MMO. Even if the "adventuring" areas are heavily instanced (which is very likely), that's still an MMO since the hub area seems to be structured in a way where you freely walk around and interact with other players.

>> No.13267540

This is how they get back the china bucks, tencent with it's corruptive tendrils send offer to big to refuse.

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Quickly, come up with realistic classes/jobs for HoloEarth
Bonus points if each of the classes links back to the Hololive talents in some way.

>> No.13269844

>13225982
Poach Mihoyo from China and rebrand/rewrite Genshin Impact using Hololive characters.

>> No.13269849

Come one now don't die. This game looks actually promising.

>> No.13273080

>>13269849
>This game looks actually promising.
This game looks like nothing.
Because we have been shown nothing.

>> No.13273303

1. Buy Peria Chronicle's remaining source code
2. Add holos
3. Get rid of the shitty combat
4. ???
5. PROFIT

>> No.13274114

>>13225982
They won't. And people on this board will defend it anyway until it goes under, at which point they'll pretend they knew it was shit from the start.

>> No.13275911

>>13266809
They have closer to $20m-$25m in assets. They did $50m in revenue, $15m in profits. The numbers in Wikipedia aren't updated, since they're not officially announced numbers.

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>>13267566
Kiara is a tank. She marks all enemies as eggs and makes them seethe, taking all the aggro which allows the other girls to dps/stream freely.

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They still are hiring high level devs and whatever they have is just a unity demo atm will dump screenshots.

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Anyways all they did was make a shitty unity 3d world, import the holo models they had on hand and make or buy generic fantasy enemies. The game is likely years from even seeing the light of day unless some autist devs from actual companys quit and run to make their dream hololive game.

>> No.13280017

>>13279347
Good enough for me. Wasn't really expecting much. Going overboard with it and spending money needlessly would've been the worst outcome.

>> No.13280146

They really just need a place where all the girls could interact and play, besides Minecraft.

>> No.13280178

>>13279677
Or perhaps they'll partner with Meta or Nvidia on one of their projects.
They're chasing trends that far bigger companies are also trying to do; I don't see them getting that far without getting swallowed up by those said companies.

>> No.13280320

>>13280178
They can contract their IP out to a studio without selling their whole studio. The move that would make the most sense is for Microsoft to fund and develop this game to improve their Japanese footprint. But given they are directly hiring people to make assets and design they game this doesn't seem to be what they are doing.

>> No.13281329

>>13280320
You don't need to throw big names around because big companies are notoriously hard to negotiate with. You could have any medium or small sized dev and they would be more than willing to assist in the development. If Cover is keen on outsourcing, they could just give it to a cheap Korean company. So either Cover doesn't want to split the future profits, or no one wants to partner with Cover, so they figured it would be cheaper to build it in house than contract it out.

>> No.13281394

>>13267425
>A lobby makes it an mmo
Yeah, VR chat is the greatest mmo of all time!

>> No.13281542

>>13281394
Well, I'm not sure if you know this but VR Chat is listed as a MMO.

>> No.13281590

>>13281329
Microsoft has already hired them to shill their products in Japan and has a few dozen studios that could work on it I was just saying them because it makes strategic sense for Microsoft which continues to have anemic Japanese presence. Unless they take down the job postings this thing will be vaporware for quite awhile.

>> No.13282693

>>13281542
>Genres mean nothing anymore
My favorite platformer is Forza and my favorite sim is minecraft! Super Mario Odyssey is the greatest racing game of all time!

>> No.13282780

>>13225982
MMOs aren't worth playing. They should've made a Smash Brothers clone like every other company seems to be doing these days. There'd be nothing funnier than seeing a GIF of wave-dashing Pekora.

>> No.13282875

>>13269849
I don't know what you mean anon, they haven't showed off any gameplay. The idea of it just seems weird too, making a game is fine but making an open world/MMO game as a small company, and tying the world to streamers/internet personalities seems like the perfect recipe for disaster.
Its nice to be ambitious but I just dont think this project will really go anywhere, especially since Cover's last game was a reportedly barely working Table Tennis game.

>> No.13283585 [DELETED] 

>UOHHH SCHOOL CHILDREN

gura... please...

>> No.13283892

>>13282693
I don't know what you're complaining about, VR chat isn't a MMORPG, but it is a MMO and the only thing you need to be a MMO is scale

>> No.13285829

>MMO
Yeah, its going to be trash.

>> No.13286289

>>13225982
will this be on the blockchain and can I make money doing missions for qt anime girls?

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