/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>literally one of the easiest jobs on the planet
>sit in front of your computer, play video games and talk
>things you would normally do anyway except now you're getting paid for them
>say you need a break cause it's hard

Why are *some* vtubers like this?
I get those who overwork themselves like Aqua or Korone, but the rest?
EN? Ayame?
What's their excuse?
Isn't this pathetic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
Do it yourself then

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162540
I would if had money for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162610
So basically you're a neet, and you're tying to act like you know what a day's work is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
Aren't you pathetic for making this thread every other hour?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
>play video games and talk
>normally do
Who the fuck talks while playing video games unless you need it for communication with teammates? Do you mumble random shit into monitor?

[Anonymous No.]

Korone was probably working herself to death though, with taking care of her family members, doing studio recording, taking lessons and streaming for long periods every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162728
NEET doesn't mean "person who isn't a streamer", shithead

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162728
>i don't have money for expensive equipment
>so you're saying you're unemployed?
> *facepalm*
stop projecting faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
You forgot the editing skills, having an actual talent/personality, scheduling, dealing with antis/trolls, dealing with technical problems, etc.
It's not coal mining, but I'd not say that it's easy. And those who take it easy generally don't get big.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163012
Not being able to scrap together enough money to make a modest streaming setup does point towards a neet.
>>13163058
Ame was poor as fuck before Hololive and she managed to stream. What's your excuse NEET-kun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163213
>dealing with antis/trolls
kek. are you a woman?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162610
if you can afford to post on 4chan and bitch about vtubers, you can afford to stream. that's the level of retarded jealousy you're on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162906
He probably plays cod with his friends where there's nothing but dead air during gameplay.
He doesn't realize how hard it is to be non-stop one-way chatting with a voiceless audience for hours at a time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163332
Probably doesn't seem like a big deal to you, because no one likes you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163397
Stop antiing/trolling him, chud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163329
you are so deep in your ass it;s actually pathetic.
knowing so little about the world to assume someone who cant afford streaming equipment must be a neet.
where the fuck do retards like you come from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163332
They are women, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162540
give me my hololive position and i won't waste a single second motherfucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163332
I'm not talking about simple harassment, I'm talking about people trying to dox you, trying to send (literal) shit to your house, hacking your accounts, etc. Again, it's not exactly an impossible job, but it must be stressful over time to deal with that stuff everyday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
Kiara doesn't do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
maybe it's easy because they can take break whenever? the freedom aspect is a big plus hence why i think people don't take it seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
Petra from NijiEN said that being streamer is super easy and anyone could do it. It`s funny someone saying that since streamers usually complain about it being super hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162540
i like vtubers and all, i have my oshi too, but don't fucking pretend that playing video games is a real job

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
>coal miner
>hard job

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163371
how? a streaming pc costs money
a mic costs money
a camera costs money
a vtuber avatar costs money
posting on 4chan is for free
who is retarded again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163213
>easy
if playing video games and getting paid for it is not easy, and if that is not the dream """"job"""" of zoom zooms around the world, then working every other real job should be reason eonugh to off yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
i don't think people are seriously thinking streaming is a hard job, it's probably one of the easiest job on the planet but the different with traditional work is that you need to get lucky to make money with streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162540
ok i'm doing it
...
now what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163975
>get lucky
>be a millionaire
simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163956
>easiest job on the planet
That really depends on the type of streamer you are and how big you made it. If you're a fatass constantly streaming battle royale games with little to no editing sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163956
no anon there are retards that actually believe that streaming is hard work, and they take like personal offense and go defensive if someone mentions that their oshi have it ez, they want to deny reality with whatever reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164036
im just looking at the general vtuber here, they usually don't edit their streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163930
>a streaming pc costs money
if it can run games it can stream
>a mic costs money
doesnt have to be a good mic
>a camera costs money
second hand kinects are like $10
>a vtuber avatar costs money
learn to make your ow
>posting on 4chan is for free
you're paying for electricity
>who is retarded again?
you

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163329
>Ame
The irony

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164139
What are you going on about?

[Anonymous No.]

Suisei managed to become a vtuber as a highschool girl making everything herself. You are literally more pathetic than a Japanese highschool girl if you can’t stream. You’d probably stream once, freak out because you didn’t get 10k viewers day 1, and then quit even if you won the lottery and bought the world’s most expensive setup.

[Anonymous No.]

Only nijis and holos have it easy. Every other vtuber is struggling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
and they fucking break down and cry regularly, its actually disgusting how weak they are
and these pieces of human waste make more than a ER nurse, firefighter, doctor, and they do it by leeching money of people that have less
"ok"
streamer income should be heavily regulated

[Anonymous No.]

Also I’m really curious how this applies to corporate vtubers in an idol company. You don’t even watch clips if you think their day is just “wake up, stream for a bit, rest of the day is free day”.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163945
Again, you ignored the rest of the skills necessary to get big. If you just play video games and talk randomly on twitch, you'd never pass 1k subs. Even as a woman.
It's not about just playing, it's about getting views and keeping the audience entertained. And that aspect is the thing that gets people stressed. Try pleasing a crowd everyday to see how "easy" it is.
I'd not compare to coal mining or shit like that, but it's harder than most entry level desk jobs imo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163956
The funniest thing is all these social Autists who people can't stand to be around acting as if they could ever be successful streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164100
>if it can run games it can stream
If you try to stream with a potato pc and a bad internet, you're not gonna have a good time. Believe me. I tried.

[Anonymous No.]

The only pathetic one here is the people who do shit like mining when you could be making easy money streaming. Who cares if it's "Pathetic" to make money streaming stuff instead of doing "honest" work like mining and shit? It's only not "honest" because you think it isn't, and that's pathetic.
You're pathetic. Shut the fuck up and kill yourself along with the rest of your ilk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163538
None of them started out as Hololive. You gotta work and get there you naive moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
Fuckin Based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164437
Not really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164395
>everyone that does manual labour, produce products and provide a vital service to society need to kill themselves or become streamers
interesting big brain opinion you have there

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164263
Maybe ER nurses, firefighters, doctors, etc. are UNDERPAYED and not the streamers who are overpayed?
But let's not talk work politics, comrade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164457
I mean, honestly? Yeah. They're only useful until we can replace them with machines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164478
Based and accelpilled pilled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164100
>if it can run games it can stream
bullshit
>doesnt have to be a good mic
it absolutely does. no one will watch you if you have shit quality
>second hand kinects are like $10
see point above
>learn to make your ow
kek
if you promise to learn english
>you're paying for electricity
the argument was 4chan is free not electricity retard
>you
anon i dont know how to tell you this but I think everyone can see who is retarded here.
Also, you're a faggot because you got offended on behalf of your shit oshi.
kys and let me watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164271
it is for EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164573
my friend makes youtube videos on her iphone. technology is good enough these days decent online media production

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164473
>kindergarden tier argument
>lets stop talking about it here
yeah no
bigger streamers make literal millions which they piss away on dumb rockstar type decision making, money that they have sucked out of people with varying degrees of mental retardation that makes then want to pay to interact with someone
its disgusting
entertainment has value, but it shouldnt have infinite value at the expense of sad idiots

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164649
>topic is about vtuber streamers
>goes on about edits on iphone

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163397
anon that comment has really taken a hit on my mental health. think i'll announce my week long vacation now, im too distraught to play video games

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164693
same tech

[Anonymous No.]

Anon: Streaming is so easy!
>proceeds to stream cod on 240p 25p with a shitty mic, while stuttering and mumbling his overused memes.
>gets 2 views (one is his mom)
Anon: FUCK THIS SHIT! STREAMERS SHOULD GET PAID LESS!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164688
You could replace entertainment with "business administration" and it would be the same.
Wages are low because businesses nickle and dime every penny used in wages, considered an overhead expense, to funnel money to owners or executives.

You're just a moronic bootlicker trying to demean folk who don't actually make that much (big names are the exception rather than the rule).

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164688
If people want to pay them, what is the problem? Now, the fact that essencial workers (in fact most proletariat) suffer from bad working conditions and low payments is a real issue! If you want to talk about that, I'm all ears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164228
>extremely ignorant take not even taking into consideration quality of living in USA, Japan, etc. vs a second or third world country.
yes nigger suisei rich bitch from Japan could maybe afford that.
Does that mean Siergiey from Ukraine can do the same in between defending border from Russians and working at coal mine? You are kinda unfair anon-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164228
A fucking 14 years old kid built a nuclear reactor in his house. Does that means that physics is way too easy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164724
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164794
literally this guy >>13164100

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
people need breaks, we just aren't built to do the same thing every day all year without having time to celebrate with friends and let loose. especially if you're working at home by yourself, that fucks with your head

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164100
>Vtuber avatar
>Learn to make your own
Not everyone can be Suisei retard, and to those who can't, getting an actual good model will go beyond 1k if you don't want the ugly 3D indie model

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164956
yes, they literally have apps you can vtube on

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162610
Knowing to do something profitable and doing it has value that tapers off the more people try to catch up to the sailing ship.

Shit like being a vtuber is a sudden trend that, if you want to do it, you need to hurry and catch up RIGHT NOW because every month that you wait, you're being left behind. If you can't get the money then don't even have it as a thought in your mind.
>>13164354
You don't even need to stream, you could just make a youtube channel to start but wanting everything from the outset being a reason you're not doing it is part of the problem

[Anonymous No.]

Streaming is only a hard job when you aren't entertaining and lazy, at that point why the fuck did you make streaming your job? You're only going to make it if you're a cute girl at that point

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
Vtubing is probably a much different experience depending on if you're an indie vs. being a corpo. With that said girls like Ayame are certainly just milking the system for what it's worth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165054
u still need a streaming set-up retard

[Anonymous No.]

W-whats up guys! Anongameplay here! Let's get this bread hahahaha
>awkward silence
>gets killed in game
o-oh noo hahah hey guys is my audio ok? are you listening to me?
>2 views
>no one on chat
l-lets get this subathon going hahah over 9000 subs today!!
>dog barking on the background

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165172
>you cant stream from a phone

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165116
>You don't even need to stream, you could just make a youtube channel to start but wanting everything from the outset being a reason you're not doing it is part of the problem
Start a gameplay channel? What is this? 2010?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165195
This would have been funny if Holo EN didn't actually act like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165213
name one single vtuber that got successful by streaming from a phone

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163790
It's hard only when there are people watching you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165244
EN lives rent free there huh

[Anonymous No.]

Excuses: The Thread
No wonder you fuckers didn't make it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165308
no they just popped up cause they always ask about their mic quality and die

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165277
>implying you wouldnt be no views even with the best setup

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163790
being a streamer is easy, getting successful at it is not

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165349
The JPs do the same, but in japense. Dummy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165362
>gets personal the moment he lost the argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165225
It doesn't even need to be a gameplay channel, you could do basically anything.

It's not gonna an instant success or even guaranteed to take off but getting a start is better than not starting at all.

[Anonymous No.]

It is actually really hard on your throat.

[Anonymous No.]

Would it really be that hard for Ayame to stream every few days?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165389
they dont
there is no akward silence and no bullshit breaks cause *muuh streaming haaardddd*
except Ayame ofc

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165397
you do not have any argument other than better specs = vtuber success. which is wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165381
>getting successful at it is not
>Get into hololive
>Millions of subs for free

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165456
>better specs = vtuber success
never said that.
my argument was you need proper set-up to be a vtuber not just a phone like you try to imply
also still waiting for your example

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164943
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165404
If it doesn't take off, it doesn't pay the bills, my dude. And it's not easy to take off, it requires knowledge of the internet scene everyday, knowledge of your niche, proper setup/editing of your type of video and some luck with the algorithm.
Is is super hard? Coal mining tier? No. But it's not for everyone IMO. And rest days and vacations are surely deserved.
Just don't be like Ayame of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165546
then why havent you built one yourself yet?
what?
too stupid?
can't do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165530
you need a decent setup to be a succesful tuber yes, but anyone can stream with an anime avatar and be no views

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
It technically is easy as fuck but you need to be entertaining and interesting. You can go to twitch and look for vtubers and there will be like 100 pages of 10 or less view vtubers streaming daily with no hopes of growth because if they were good, more people would be watching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164315
many already mention it before, and the most decisive factor is luck, many other independents and from other companies different from Cover, have everything necesary and accomplish all the check boxes but nobody will give the chance to watch her, because is a saturated market, just in hololive alone, there are only a few very talented individuals, but the majority are regular streamers with no particular skill, and are not remarkable at all, i'm sorry for theri fans but Flare, Aki, Mio, Sora, Okayu, Towa, Kiara, Ina and many others , don't have anything outstanding, what they sing? they draw? that's like a greenn item, just rare but not that special.
So no streaming is not a hard job, if you say you need skills to be succesful, that only applies to 5 more or less holos, nothing more, the rest are riding the hypetrain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165546
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_physics
If it's that easy, solve these problems right now and get rich. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165571
Ye that's what I was saying earlier but I should've worded better where, if you can't afford it don't even have it as a thought in your mind because more than likely it won't be worth it and you'll probly just stress yourself out unless you genuinely enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163058
It's true though.
My rent is fuckme expensive and even I can save around 2k a month

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
Ey OP you talk like a bitch, suck it up buttercup!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162540
I do it.
Where is your god now?
t. Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165634
Luck is a big factor, but not a decisive one imo. You need to know how to use the hypetrain in your favor or it will pass the station.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165662
>it correlates to my personal situation therefore ultimately true for everyone on the planet

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165673
Aren't you supposed to be doing some plumbing while I plumb your girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164693
Holos use iphones for streaming

[Anonymous No.]

gura streamed for a decade before reaping her rewards.
if you do something for a decade, and won't slack off, high chances you will be successful as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165836
you forgot PCs there little fella

[Anonymous No.]

>>13163975
keep doing it and if you stop to take a break, you're literally a faggot of the highest calibre

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165797
You're fragile today buddy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165720
hypetrain already left the station

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165936
im obviously joking
learn to take banter

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165527
>Get into hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
Oh this is an Ayame bait thread disguised as an attempt to talk about a seperate topic. Well played, people will bite this bait.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking at this thread and ayame i'm starting to think Connor from Trashtaste was right, you don't have to be a good streamer or stream at all if you have a company name like Hololive backing you up. Not like 2views are any better, they're drama bait or barely stream at all too

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
Who the fuck watches this bollocks except for penniless children and idiots. Whoever pays youtube for adverts may as well set fire to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
It's probably hard to be an entertainer for a bunch of retarded faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
cant believe some faggot mod would delete the op image because it didnt have a vtuber in
and people say this board doesnt have mods

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510

Just to let you know, sitting at a computer all day is not an easy job. Sitting for that long fucks up your body, especially your heart, and damages it permanently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13167178
MODS=GODS
It was a shitty OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
>easiest
NUMBERS NOT HIGH ENOUGH DOES SHE HATE HOLOLIVE?????????????????
bussy

[Anonymous No.]

>>13167077
Sadly, people make the easiest jobs way harder than they need to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164895
Not the anon you're replying to, but I'm from one of the lowest 3rd world south american country and I could afford a nice setup working part time as a fucking waiter by saving money, you're either just a neet or a fatass who can't stop spending on bullshit, kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13167280
not the anon but working part time as a waiter in a 3rd world country and not only you can pay rent, buy food but also afford a streaming set-up?
yeaah im not buying it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165283
bruh...

[Anonymous No.]

OP here
For some reason meido deleted the image so Im gonna upload it here as it is important for context

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165452
Have you not watched Kiara? She mever shuts up during streams, barely takes breaks, and runs what other EN would call 'marathon' streams daily. Oh wait, lemmie guess, because she doesn't constantly speak glorious Nipponese and reminds you that she'll always be 10 steps ahead of your yellow-fever ass, you hate her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13167529
Is this your first day on /vt/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13167610
why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13167609
hate is a strong word. I dislike her but i gotta give it to her. she doesnt bitch about streaming like ame or gura

[Anonymous No.]

>say you need a break cause it's hard
When any streamer takes a break from streaming they aren't taking a break from
>sit in front of your computer, play video games and talk
They're taking a break from their viewers because being exposed to them is mentally tiring..

[Anonymous No.]

>>13167437
Is easy anon, Being a waiter = free lunch, and some steaks and vegetables that are left untouched you can actually take home, that takes care of the food, if you live close by your work or take public transportaion saves you a lot of money, also restricting yourself from unnecessary wastes such as gacha. Ngl, it took me a while to save the money, more than a year and bought it when i reached the age of 21, but i was gonna be that age anyway and decided i would be 21 but with a setup.

Also knowing English some tourists come and tips you $, which in my country is like 4 times our local coin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13167868
did u live with ur parents ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165913
thread ended here, why yall still talkin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13167853
Or they're forced to do something that requires them to be away from their streaming setup for an extended period.
I work a remote desk job, and I had to take a week off because of a bad elbow injury that made it difficult to type. I couldn't work, I couldn't play vidya, and I couldn't do much around the house. I was basically stuck on my phone for most of the week. Small but debilitating injuries like that aren't uncommon with desk jobs. People also forget that streaming requires you to take good care of your voice. There's been a rash of voice changes and breaks due to poor vocal care in JP; you'd think people would make the connection that maybe breaks aren't automatically the chuuba being a lazy fuck.

Except Ayame. Who knows what's going on with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13167232
mods are a bunch of attention deprived trannies who enjoy flirting with each other in their IRC. not based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165195
why are you describing Amelia Watson?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13167232
>t. mod

[Anonymous No.]

>>13168266
Terrible opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162906
I mean I am not bothering anyone...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13169446
She's cute, so she her awkwardness turns into fluff

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162906
what kind of question is this?
if you dont talk to yourself you aren't fit for being a streamer in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>13164688
>legitimate point is kindergarten tier
Without knowing it, you identified the problem with the world. Even kindergarteners can see such people don't get paid enough.
You're still a faggot, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13168599
But anon, chuubas are magic and have no problems ever, they're all just evil and lazy, don't you know that? /s

[Anonymous No.]

>>13165612
Really really stupid take. Get the most entertaining, skillful in improvising and game fan comedian you can think of to stream but hide their identity and voice. I assure you he is never ever leaving being a 2 views.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread reminds me of that video of Ollie shittalking indos who brag about not knowing English. This thread is basically filled with 3rd-worlders bragging about being poor an unable to stream. Literally the mentality of failure. It doesn't matter how good your set up is, nobody will watch you because your personality is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13173340
i dont think so
if he is really funny and good with improv than he has a decent chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>13173830
oh look we have a man of success here
nigger drop the pretense

[Anonymous No.]

>>13171998
Not an argument when ironmouse who's made of paper can stream, as long as it's not throat problems there's no excuse

[Anonymous No.]

>>13173994
he didn't say he's successful but it's true everyone here is just having a pissing competition over who's more poor. this site has too many third worlders

[Anonymous No.]

>>13175195
>t. first worlder
also check your privilege

[Anonymous No.]

>>13169544
It's literally the opinion that started this stupid thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>13162510
eh wheres your image?