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Would you call this "3 view" level?
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Finally a thread, refreshing the catalog scared me.
>>130953312-digit views, still a 2view.
I was watching Hakos' stream and stuck around for SCs. She got 66k yen, which is nothing to write home about. The interesting thing is it was more than half Korean. She didn't read SCs for too long so she could have gotten more. Also she sometimes makes an effort to read the ones that are in Korean, at least the names, so that may pay off later. I know little about Korean culture, could Hakos get Korean gachikoi?
https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1460410582297763843/photo/1fake data numbers
>>13095537IRyS got 28k yen in Korean money too.
>>13095595That came from 1 dude spamming empty SCs and 1 akasupa with just Hirys as a message. Her SCs are always Half NA and half mix SEA donos
>>13095796maintaining 9kish.
>>13095296Is Japan genetically racist? I heard they eat so much rice that they develop a unique type of enzyme that fucks up their taste buds.Back to vtuber numbers:This is a good short:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NYsqm2E41k> short> fresh> lore friendlyThese are bad shorts:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNoxM_Kxoa-_gOtoyjbux7Q/videos> too long> too old> too much lore (11 characters)
>>13095842Collab with IronMouse, Vei and who else?
>>13095842That's pretty for a single POV collab. VShojo ceiling is not too far from their floor, huh?
>>13095969I hope they get better with time. It's clearly management making them and they seem to be getting better, that Ame one was cute.
https://youtu.be/wtzD4xVUDAAmore animation
>>13095969It’s fine they got the introductions out of the way, which are kinda important for the new shorts audience, and can now put out wacky woohoo clips.
>>13095796>VS amongus collab single pov>10k onlytwitch is a jooke ind discoverability
Hololive Over 100k Concurrent Live Views (Holostats)** Top 10 **07/01/2021 491,342 Coco Graduation stream05/07/2021 194,140 Gura Costume reveal10/21/2020 145,305 Miko 3D Return stream10/21/2020 140,116 Noel Costume reveal07/03/2021 139,393 Marine 1M gen3 3DLive10/18/2020 137,900 Marine Costume reveal07/29/2021 136,068 Marine 2nd Costume reveal05/03/2021 135,527 Mori Costume reveal12/13/2020 128,528 Pekora Pekomama debut05/27/2021 126,480 Subaru Costume reveal** The Rest **07/30/2021 124,596 Marine Birthday LIVE12/31/2020 123,926 Hololive NYE stream11/13/2020 119,493 Gura 2nd Karaoke stream08/14/2020 113,092 Botan Hololive debut01/31/2021 111,367 Nene Costume reveal11/08/2020 109,860 Rushia Gen3 Smashbros05/02/2021 109,792 Ayame Costume reveal07/05/2020 109,528 Kanata 3D debut06/27/2020 108,689 Coco 3D debut07/18/2021 108,004 Rushia 2nd anniversary06/23/2021 107,020 Coco Costume reveal07/12/2020 105,716 Watame 3D debut08/12/2020 103,408 Lamy Hololive debut10/04/2020 101,868 Noel Outfit reveal05/07/2021 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal11/15/2020 101,171 Shion Costume reveal05/09/2021 100,436 Aqua 2nd 3DLive** Non-streams **09/30/2021 118,000+ Coco Chat===Has anything over 100k happened since Sept 30?Going forward, what streams would break 100k?
>>13096512How dare you, Twitch has its own separate Vtuber category, and a lot of 2views on YT are 3views on Twitch. How dare you!
>>13096636YT doesn't artificially inflate views.
>>13096616HoloEN mass graduation kek
>>13096636The number of 2views depresses me. I've been dumpster diving as of late and coming across good models with good rigging and 2-10 live viewers. Lote of them have holo and niji tags. You'd be surprised how many PNG tubers use Koikatsu models.I feel like things are pure luck sometimes.
>>13096512The King-maker system is completely fair and just…
>>13096687holocope
>>13096687It's worse. Youtube deflates views.
>>13096636i know you are being ironice butif amazon cared enough they would have invested on twitch discover capabilities or automatization and be the dominat giant of the streaming industry and actually be making money on the platform. Twitch is best streaming platfrom in the near future but i feel the other are catching up since they haven come up with anything new.
>>13096687so one culls the views while the other legally/illegally viewbot them.
>>13096711The thing that really depresses me is when I make a meme thread and it gets filled with 2views trying desperately to promote themselves. On the one hand it kind of ruins the thread, but on the other hand I feel so bad that I don't say anything
So, what do you call this collab?>Roberu 2k on Apex>Ollie and rrat collab
>>13097165Astella schizo's biggest fap in his life?
>>13097165Winning son threesome collab
>>13096807How the fuck is it holocope when holo wasn’t even mentioned? Nijiniggers really want to put blame on anything Holo related
>>13096975>Twitch is best streaming platfrom in the near futurehttps://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qskrhh/twitch_might_be_testing_removing_ad_free_viewing/?sort=new>cant skip ads>rampant of viewbots>shitty vod viewing
Gura channel is dying
>>13097228dont forget the annoying copyright mute bots.
>>13097267I know fellow nousagi, Gura's graduation seems iminent.
>>13097267She only has 6 streams this monthgive it some minecrafts and karaoke and will be back to her regular.>>13097228to behonest twitch NEEDS to make money somehow but never developed an add viewing culture unlike youtube. Even if adblock exist a lot people dont use it specially on mobile
Is there any difference in how youtube treat Premium & Regular user? i mean adblock is invalidate CCV but if a Premium user using adblock it still count right? and how about VOD views on MV, are looping same playlist for hours still count if you are a premium user?
>>13097380Ayame channel is dying, she has 0 streams this month.Shitpost aside is she only gonna stream on her birthday? Is this some sort of ridiculous buff snowballing behind the scenes?
>>13097165>this is happening and there isn't a single bait thread about it>astellaschizo hasn't said a PEEPIs it past his bed time?Or is it just proof that beggars don't even watch Holostars. By the way that's Robe's usual numbers when it comes to collabs/non normal streams.
>>13097439no concrete evidence yet.Only difference is the omeny they make the the channel creator
>>13097165Is this equivalent to Kiara pekora collab? You know meeting your oshi collab
>>13097483Bae - already filtered the hardcore idolfags during her debut. Collabing with the star won't do anything since she has nothing to lose.Ollie - business as usual.Roberu - business as usual.
>>13097660I meant the guy who sperged out over EN hating Holostars so much that he's made like 3 or 4 OPs where he ended the post with "I want to kill myself due to their behavior"
>>13097660>Bae - already filtered the hardcore idolfags during her debut. Collabing with the star won't do anything since she has nothing to lose.Not me. As a proud unicorn I was just assuming she was joking to make me jealous in her playful way. Now that she betrayed me I will anti her.
>>13097793Where are your red SCs? You are poor inside and outside.
>>13097165You know what, pretty based of Ollie to cockblock Bae. We all know the rrat would jump at any chance of sucking Roberu cock if no one was looking
>>13097439For the purposes of ads, Premium users don't matter since they don't get ads anyway. They might count them if the ping system is set up to not ping them as well. You'd have to find a good chunk of Premium users on this board and get them to participate in view testing.
>>13097793
>>13096616i can see pekora's new outfit get top 5, gura next outfit might get 100k+ too but i doubt mori can get 100k+ without the first ever outfit buff
>>13097660The idea that losing idolfags is a guarantee to lose your SC's is pretty funny when Ollie is taken into account, considering there's been multiple months where she made more than the rest of ID1 and 2 put together.
Offcollab postponed no gold medal today
>>13095296Wtf is Australian cuisine? Meatpies and Tim Tams and fuckin Marmite?
>>13097228What about the paying to promote / boost visibility feature, is it still in beta?
>>13098066wait really? damn the schedule for the night seems really empty without it.
So, gold medal is gonna be taken by mito's free part concert huh?
>>13098153>pekora gets ape escape working again heh, nothing personal, kid
>>13098066Post the Tweet at least: https://twitter.com/uruharushia/status/1460501746728402945Looks like she's sick, spooked that she's got the kung flu.
>>13098216What is the predictions for this? Should be huge right? It is Mito after all.
>>13098251only has one blood vessel going up the brain, makes sense why she's paranoid
>>1309826825-40k
>>13098216looks like it? unless theres some random totsu or something that pops up
>>13097793Show me your membership, then we can continue to talk about why you should take your god damn meds
>>13098288Eh, still an overreaction though I guess better to err on the side of caution. 37.7 C fever and nausea/stomach pains is probably a stomach flu rather than the kung flu.
>>13098354she's the type who almost passed out playing drunk ring fit last year. it makes sense why she's so cautious
>>13097165Oh , the rrat is really there? That's good. Numbers.
>>13098216Unless it's at least 55k anycolour should just shut its doors.
>>13098458That was a moment of retardation that doesn't warrant overcautiousness. I almost killed myself with a golf cart and messing with chemicals several times but that hasn't made me paranoid. Though I guess the effects of near-death experiences change depending on the person.
>>13097165Damn, winning son getting service both in the front and the back. The man can't stop winning.
>>13098216>nijisanjiDoes she have a penis or a vagina? Also didn't the first wave concert get 44k?
I hate nijisanji and nijien and I come here everyday to laugh aout their numbers and vtubers
>>13098622Anon, there were 3D debuts from women that had more viewers and SC than men. Hoshikawa, Tomoe, Furen, it goes on. It depends on the vtuber and their popularity.
>>13098216Any Hololive Streams today that can beat it?
Well Mito better get atleast 40k+ or else she might be subjected to the slippage. Unless if the rabbit decides to do Final fantasy 14 again.
Do idolfags exist foe EOPs? I'm not sure but isn't being idolfag looked down upon by EOPs, they actually encourage more intergender interaction.
>>13098705Nah. Unless she's gotten to the Gold saucer off stream I don't think we'll be seeing FFXIV outta Pekora today.
>>13098216Anything that doesn't clear 40k is subject to slippage as long as Pekora or Marine is streaming.
>>13095464Why would it scare you?
>>13098705She might stream the postponed Ape Game from yesterday.Can that get 40k+??
Gura's Jackbox vod is almost reaching 500k views now while Suisei's Mario Party vod is still stagnating. Gura's views per video ratio is almost as good as a popular youtuber making one video per week, heck I would say even better.
>>13098845It's a retro game, at most it will get 30k at best. Also I don't think she got her playstation fixed yet.
>>13098765I'm one so they definitely do.
>>13098886Bots just like her subs.
>>13098927Can I ask you why you're like that? I mean, it's weird seeing this behavior outside of any East Asian countries.
>>13098765Idolfags are also looked down by JOPs, but here we are.
>>13098886She better be with that amount of subs. The only thing she has going for her is her sub count and decent enough vod views.
>>13098765It's not idolfag for EOP. It's goslings
>>13098974What’s there to understand, he supports his oshi in her goals to become a better singer/dancer/entertainer.
>its the gura vs suisei EN shizo timeloop again
>>13098974idolfag != purityfag/unicorn
>>13095296Alright /num/fags, what're anons analyses of my oshi
>>13098886>Gura's Jackbox vod is almost reaching 500k views now while Suisei's Mario Party vod is still stagnating. Gura's views per video ratio is almost as good as a popular youtuber making one video per week, heck I would say even better.
>>13098886SUSAN IS CULLING HOLOJP VOD!!!
>>13099166you 100 percent love her anon.
>>13099080Don’t forget her music rta, memberships, fan art, karaokes, clip-ability, voice, animations…
>>13099166She needs to start doing GFE, her SC game isn't great. She's only gotten $26,075 this month.
>>13099320>GFE isn't for everyone, you don't just "start doing GFE".Also Miko is already implied GFE.
>>13099307All of which, don't matter. I'm sorry anon, you just have to admit they don't matter.
>>13097165Red Holos collab?
>>13099356Saying you can pretend she's you GF, go on pretend dates, and saying you don't need other women in your life when she's drunk isn't the GFE.
>>13099307Almost all holojp has her beaten in animation count
>>13098216>>13098268An easy 20k.
>>13097165Son is pretty much the safest male to collab with in holo.
>>13099364> Enter /#/ thread.> Nu-Numbers don't matter!
>>13099416Also the guy never get heat unlike the tt guys.
>>13099402No one said she has to be GFE.
>>13099424He said the content doesn't matter only the numbers.
>>13099525She needs to up her SC game.
>>13099166Needs to impregnate Pekora if she wants to be the #1 Holo.
>>13099307music? one originalfan art? art fags get out, it doesn't matterkaraokes? a once a month thing at most. decent numbers yes, but not the orgasm chumbuds clamour about.voice? come on anon.. really that's how low you have to go? I will give you clipability and membership(which we don't have an exact count of but shoudl assume is decent), but then again with her sub count if she didn't have those she should be even more ashamed of herself then she already is.
>>13099604I thought Marine gets the most tag in danbooru or something.
>>13099307NTA but >voicehas nothing to do with numbers.
>>13098886wow how did a vtuber that 3 times subs of suisei has more vod views ? I can't believe it.
Anyone else severely disappointed by Ceres Fauna's performance? She barely streams and she's a SClet. She had the world in her hand and didn't care, I feel sadness and it is a dismal hope but I would like her to pull herself up and be something.
>>13098216>mito's free part concertis it on mito channel or nijisanji main?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzkeE2pC5_M not up to date but relevant
>>13098216Anyone who says it will take gold is falseflagging and setting up grudgeposts.
>>13099766Green lamy they said, she csnt even become green kiara at this point
>>13099766I know, it's a shame and I'm starting to resent her on some level. At least stream. She has zero fucking sponsorships.
>>13099766no, she's not my oshi
>>13099781Nijisanji main, there is a preshow with Lize happening right now. It is struggling to reach 7k, meanwhile Kuzuha’s pre-show had over 30k viewers. I doubt this one will be today’s winner.
>>13099823I don't really watch Niji but It's THE Mito right? It can't be as bad as Panda's birthday plus new outfit now can it?
>>13099781Come on anon, it's Nijisanji, of course it's on the main channel.
>>13099856>mainSomething something trickle down to smaller livers something.
>>13099766More break days then streams this month. If you don't put in the work you can't expect a reward can you...
>>13099893Yeah, it trickle down into Niji main channel
>>13099766Her last two gaming streams reached 5-digits CCV. She's doing well as a streamer.None of the Council milks their viewers so far. HR team filtered the materialistic applicants so hard that Council is full of money haters.
Is screenshots also illegal in Mito's concert?
Top 2 nijifemales not even getting 10k. Manji-
>>13099916I know. It is such a shame, all her buffs are wasted and she doesn't even care. Her fans don't either. I wish someone would push her to excellence.>>13099845She isn't mine either but this is a numbers thread and she does fucking nothing. At least Bae gets sponsorships, endears herself to a new market, and Sana can help produce merch while being good on SCs. Ceres is the biggest failure of the council when you take everything together. If she streamed we could have an argument about her value by filling up time but she doesn't.
>>13099999I think so.
>>13100005Toya is there too, for a short time though.
>>13099963A sorta high CCV doesn't matter if you stream weekly. >money hatersAnd that's the problem. You need people to earn. Cover isn't a charity. Fauna generates little revenue, a model like that and a position like that could have 100s of people better at making money.>muh ASMRShe doesn't do it often and she's not great.
>>13100051kek, makes me laugh every time
>>13100051never gets old
>>13100136Unironically irys could have done better in that live2d
>>13100136Fallenshadow I know your debut got postponed but don’t take it out on Fauna.
>>13100189She has 209,600円 for this current stream. Higher than usual for her. I don't know what's up
>>13100250SC reading with SCs open. She has gachis too.>>13100238Fallen is a friend of Fauna now.
>>13100296She always has it open. She never closes them. She usually gets about 150,000 max on regular streams like this
>>13100296>Fallen is a friend of Fauna nowCmon fallen..
>>13100296Really? they made up?Maybe she saw how Panda can still be friends/lover of Kronii despite not being seal anymore
>>13100296HR Monitor is an SC buff.
>>13100136If Cover is so desperate for some extra SC revenue, they'd have told Council to open SC during their SC reading streams. The fact that they haven't shown that they don't care about those SC that much, and they picked Council members (or Fauna in particular) for other qualities than SC farming
>>13100348>Kronii's old mates love her>Bae's old mates love her>Rosemi's old mates unpersoned her and one even hides tweets from a vtuber who brought her upIs it dick sucking to get good on holomems side or was Rosemi that hated?
>>13100413Well, for one, neither Kronii nor Bae (not even Fauna) dumped their friends after getting L2D and a bunch of support to jump onto bigger ship
>>13096711They dont call it getting a big break for nothing. Theres usually that one pivotal moment that changes everthing. But luck is often indistinguishable from skill.
>>13100378>KroniiGood voice and streaming potential. Gachikoi magnet and she knows how to manipulate them. Works well with Myth.>SanaProfessional artist and good at getting SCs while not spoiling the collab broth. Works well with Myth.>BaeCan shill well and is a bring home the bread 9 to 5 streamer, consistent and reliable>MumeiCan kinda sing and had numbers; always clipable and has a laundry list of 6 figure clips. Seems good in collabs with her mates and Myth.>FaunaCan't sing, can't get SCs, barely streams, annoying voice, has no clipable moments, barely exists in collabs, and doesn't do promotions. She brings fucking nothing.
>>13099802Which one that will be next HoloID3
>>13096711It might sound rude to the legacy, but if you watch the five heavenly king's old videos(probably beside luna), their streaming skills don't hold candle compared to mid tier niji or holos now. They were just at the right place at the right time.
>>13100462What kind of "dumping their friends" did Rosemi do?
>>13100296I think all Myth and Irys have established their own gachi culture, despite having low SC, Gura, Ina and Ame still can let their fans go crazy when needed. Kronii might be the first in Council to establish her gachi culture, but she seems debuffing it, but I believe her ability is still there. Still waiting for Bae because she might be my most anticipated one in Council.
>>13100587Was that supposed to be a rhetorical question, or are you not aware of Rosemi - Tsunderia little drama?
>>13100525Fauna has 1.6k clips using her tag.
>>13100675>but she seems debuffing itShe literally has relationship points with members which they earn as a collective. It's gonna be uncontrollably powerful if she sticks with it.
>>13100675Kronii has huge potential, she just needs to get her fucking head straight.
Did Mito's pre-concert hype stream reached 10k?
>>13100675Does Bae have prechat on? I know she never turns off SC though. Maybe she will get more SCs if she keeps sticking with the Koreans.
>>13100764>why isn't the appetizer a full mealHer concert will do well. I know it's early but I don't think I will be wrong if I declare her win now.
>>13100734I believe having a visual symbol for fans also help with establishing gachis when you don't go hard on it. Deadbeats, chicken employees, shrimps, takodachis, all create strong relationships.
>>13100764No.
Starting, and no social distancing.
>>13099766>Ceres Fauna'sare there more than 1 Fauna vtuber that i am not aware off? feels like you could just say Fauna or Ceres
>>13100882That movie theater is packed. I guess that's why no one watched the pre show.
>>13100882Why are there gaps in the middle then
>>131009172473 capacity, smaller than Watame, Suisei, and Kuzuha.
>>13097165well Bae doesn't seem to have many gachis and this is what she wants. Fucking based, joining holo and collabing with her oshi
>>13100882Are they allowed to cheer or are they still doing the "stand silently, don't yell or get excited" stupidity over there
>>13100995They should be allowed to cheer now, but we'll see.
>>13100882Anon is this a legal screenshot? You're gonna get arrested by the niji police.
I still don't get the rationale of having the sololive broadcasted on the main channel instead of the livers own. It's not a company event, it's Mito's. Probably just Nijisanji culture at this point I guess.
think holofes would have a live audience this year?
>>13101058>live audienceYes>this yearNo
>>13100944are they seating 2434
>>13100882>Empty seats>less than 10k on previewHoly shit, Manjisanji is fucking real!!!!
>>13101020I mean, even Kuzuha's birthday was on Niji's channel, just sayin ...
>15k>only Chii-chan is streamingI hoping they're breaking records in digital ticket sales because otherwise this is disgraceful
>>13101095The question is whether or not it's a smart thing to do so.
>>13101020It's just one of the management tactics to undermine their livers' influence. The new wave starts bitching? Well, it's time to debut more waves.
17k now>>13101084Yes that's why you can see empty seats in the middle kek.
>>13097216I guess that's because when YT took measures against bots in 2020's december, Niji channels were fine while majority Holo channels experienced 20-40% loss of average viewers. Holokeks usually avoid calling these YT measures by their real name and just call them "Youtube update" or "Youtube culling viewers".
Another attempt at ape escape 3 for the bunny.
>>13101164Yep. Nijisanji is trying to replicate Vinnie Mac's tactic in WWE. Trying to make the brand the selling point instead of the talent. Funny enough, it's also causing them the same problems too which is the inability to create new breakout stars.
>>13101204>Niji channels were fine while majority Holo channels experienced 20-40% loss of average viewerskek
So Pekora trying the monkey game again today, I guess she fixed her ps3 somehow.
Have I been missing anything but why is everyone suddenly hating Fauna? She seems like the least to be caught up in some controversy?
>>13101299>everyone
>>13101299One (1) retard
>>13101299It's one/two schizos that have oddly decided to take up residence in the numbers thread of all places.
>>13101299Eh, just some anons feeling that she's underperforming. And the general EN schizos of course.
>>13101280>replying to obvious baitthis thread is hopeless
>>13101299Just fallenshadow being off her meds again. Also, because Holo vs Holo is the only way to get (you)s currently with Nijisanji getting mogged almost everyday and VShoujo still not strong enough to replace them as bait.
>>13101299It's fallenschizo being schizo again
>>13100413>Rosemi's old mates unpersoned herI hope I'm not the only one who noticed Miori (Tsunderia) freaking out on twitter when Bae was debuting saying stuff like. RAT QUEEN, BEST RAT, MY RAT QUEEN, CUTEST RAT!!!! She was obviously taking shots at another rat vtuber she used to know while showing support for her former genmate.
>>13100587TLDR after getting accepted for tsunderia and getting a live 2d and music video Rosemi proceeded to stream more on her indie channel than her tsunderia channel and before graduating less than three months after getting in.
Alright, can we pretend no one ever made the claim the free part of Mito's concert would be a gold medalist? I mean it's doubtful she'll get 25k.
So that's how the live audience can see the AR part, they use two screens. Anyway 20k now, will be hard to get gold especially if Pekora will stream later.
>>13101400free part is only 30 minutes right ?
>>1310140025k has won gold on slower days. What does the lineup look like for today?
>>1310142820 only I think, Kuzuha’s was 17 or 18 minutes
>>13101400No wonder her smile is so bright in this thumbnailBut can this get gold tho? Is this game even good? first time i ever saw it
>>13101430really slow in holo side, only subaru and pekora are the big ones. Unless if Miko decides to snipe some slot.
>>13101430Subaru something stream, Haachama schizo stream, and Pekora Ape Escape. Unfortunately Rushia had to postponed her offcollab with Marine stream.
>>13101428I think so. Assuming that Iinchou doesn't get more than 25k then Watame actually mogged her.
>>13101430Chammer's announcement stream, Pekora with her usual 20k+ most likely and Subaru
>>13101280English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?You clearly can't read or simply didn't read my post.Also, it's hilarious how this holokek tried really hard to select only those vtubers who lost viewers and avoided a fuck ton of others, who gained. Absolute state of /#/ - holokeks spamming cope and seethe about actual facts.
>>13101430You have Peko and Shuba. Later on will be the Haacahama Announcement
>>13101476Miko's out today so she's definitely not sniping. Probably.
>>13101020>>13101164that makes no sense whatsoever, even more when those concerts are paid and only the free part is on the channel.
>>13101470Pekora's on a hot streak right now. As long as it isn't a shill stream, 30k is a good bet for her.
>>13101455Kuzuha started early (i forgot the time but if it was scheduled at 4pm then he started around 3:48pm)I was tracking down his numbers so i know
>>13101280Now post the one from hololive where there's also a lot of red for holo yoy
>>13101470Can it get gold, yes unless there is something breaking 35-40k. I haven't played it but there seem to be some clamouring that it's a nice retro game so might pull some people just because of the novelty.
>>13101504>>13101550(You)You're welcome, now get out
>>13101430Well, I haven't seen it past 20k. Could a 19.9k stream take a day?
>>13101504This was already posted before idiot. I guess Nijis has been losing so hard for you to seethe this hard.
>>13101583I think the lowest gold we have so far recently is 26k with that awful Pekora Mario Kart game. What is the lowest gold so far?
Does subaru have a personal buff game he can pull out? She could actually go for the kill and take the gold if she want.
>>13101583I don't think it's possible to get gold under 20k. hell, I can confidently say you need at least 24k on a really bad day to even get it.
>>13101524Yeah but 15 of those minutes where just watching people sit down beofre it actually started. i was also tracking down his numbers
>>13101651Totsu sausage legend stream.
>>13101485>Watame actually mogged her.Deservedly so.I haven't heard anything in Mito's free part yet that sounds good. I managed to ignore King's shitty voice in his live but do you need to be Japanese to understand Mito's songs too?
>>13101651If she does anything remotely related to Oozora police expect it to win the day.
>>13101580>>13101550>Now post the one from hololive where there's also a lot of red for holo yoyYou still didn't learn English to read my original post. You'll only be allowed to ask me something after you understand that post.And I am not a creator of these pathetic tables. Those are made by a holokeks, who, again, tried really hard to select only those numbers they want to see. There are a plenty of monthly summaries for average or median Holo viewers in archive. Just look at one of them and see for yourself.
It peaked at 21,193This will probably not win but it's at least top 5 material. Maybe.
>>13101651Peko is excited to play that ape game, Subaru won't dare steal the gold.
Probably won't get gold today. Also it's a bit boring....
>>13101586Nothing substantial in your post anon. As expected from holokek.
>>13101738*20,193
>out for a month>endurance stream for 11+ hours when backPretty sure this is Sana's way to deflect criticism that she is not pulling her weight. Not a bad strategy I guess.
>>13101738Time for Anycolour to shut its doors, disgraceful display.
>Mito getting pathetic number>nijinigger shitting up the threadah yes the eternal seethe
>>13101793No one thought she'd get more than 20k. The fact that it was only 20k proves that a ton of people bought tickets to see it.
>>13101841>muh more real ticketsHoly cope
>>13090771I dunno a on, looks to me like everyone, including Nijisanji, dropped in December, which is whe. The new spam-view Culler update was pushed out by YouTube.
>>13101727I'm not the anon who made the table but weren't the one in the tables the highest median of NijiJPGirls? >>13101763Again, not this anon but why are you guys seething >>13101775Well i guess i can't blame you if there are people shitting on the concert.I didn't watch it, but isn't Mito the biggest NijiGirl? How can she get only 21k?
And sony chose to support Mito over Kuzuha
>>13101841keep coping i love it
>>13101841So nobody bought Kuzuha's sololive ticket? Poor king....
>>13101841And after the nijiseethe comes the nijicope
>>13101888>Sony chose to support nijisanjiFTFY
>>13101841Cope
>>13101841I wish you guys also realized this when Suisei and Watame had concerts.I only see nijifags trying so hard to shit on them when the concert is ongoing
>>13101871>inb4 this is a graph made by Holokeks and all the data there is false go do your archive reps and find some imaginary graph where Holos have a steep recline
>>13101430>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021>8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX>20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft>29) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.8k - Minecraft
>>13101871Which is exactly the point made in >>13101280, to counter the assertion that "Niji channels were fine while majority Holo channels experienced 20-40% loss of average viewers"
>>13101871But Niji drop is smaller then some of it's other regular drops, while Holo's drop is more than double of Holo's second biggest drop.
>>13101770I mean, that's one aspect she can control herself, so ...
Today is for the king
>>13101940Yes, I'm just linking the easily digestible graph for any wanderers who may be swayed by the obvious schizo/shitposter that may or may not be a nijikek.
>>13101913>sony chose to lose money
>>13101932Do it if you want. Make your own graph.
>>13101985This does not slip!
>>12574733 >>12519373
>>13101932Cope, why can't you just admit they're reclining as well.Holos got an incline due to the Sportsfest and if you have a proper functional brain, you'll see so many Hololive getting 10k above.>See something that can be used against HolosNijifags consider it FACTS>See something that can be used against NijisNijifags considers it retarded and believes Holofags are lying
>>13101660>>13101615See this for Oct, this is all the sub-30k gold for that month, including that MK stream >>13101938
>>13101985if he streamed splatoon its guaranteed 30k
>>13102036>inb4Comprehension reps, anonchama.
>>13101985What will he stream? >APEX with major collabs?Then yeah possible>Solo APEX? Nah
>>13101877It wasn’t bad, her album is actually pretty good, and the songs in free part were quite nostalgic too. New outfit too. Mito is clearly not the best singer but nobody expected anything extraordinary. If I have to explain low numbers, it’s probably because Mito is not exactly known for her singing and people watch her for different reasons. You can argue that Kuzuha isn’t either but he has a very different audience.
Speaking of Nijisanji and drop, here is that chart, but without HoloEN and HoloJP.Asked Nijisanji fans to try to help explain the current trend, is there anything in particular happenning that could explain?Anon suggestion Splatoon tournament but one would assume that would be a buff.
>Sana streams for 11:30 hours>averages 4k views with a peak of 5.1k>124k viewers for VODGoddamn, how many people are ten minute tourist?
>>13101913Sony Music last investment was in 2020 and they hold a minority share. Mito is only with Sony Music as a label, much like other nijisanji like Kuzuha, Trinity and others are on different jp labels.It's stupid anyway because the labels don't care about the talent, otherwise they would pick Chima, Melissa and others, but popularity.
>>13101888Mito didn't turn into a numberlet until recently and Kuzuha wasn't the god power he is now. Labels steal anyways.
>>13102195Hi here, newfag, enjoy your stay and make yourself comfortable.
>>13102223>the labels don't care about the talent, ... but popularityWell yeah, no shit. If you're already known within the industry, it doesn't matter if you're super talented. The numbers speak louder than your skills, they're trying to maximize sales after all.
>>13102195If you watch literal 2views, the live viewer count does not register a viewer until a certain amount of time. People were typing in chat while the live viewer count was zero so I guess some watchers don't get registered as a live viewer but still gets included in VOD count.
Why are you guys falling for itWhy am i falling for it too!Damn Kronii i miss you too
>>13102303A...anon!? I think you're in the wrong thread. Kronii thread is at the bottom of the catalogue, this is the numbers thread.
>>13102303>>13102326Yep sorry my bad, i was so excited to see Kronii's tweet saying she misses us kronies
>>13102303Kroniischizo, I know your Oshi isn't streaming so you can't send her an angry SC, but it appears you've replied in the wrong thread.
really good for numberfags that pekora didnt choose the idol route where mito, aqua and recently kuzuha are heading. well, there is the 3rd gen live but she's just participating there and her streaming pace isnt slowing down
>>13102303Get your cringy ass from this thread!
>>13102223I really don't trust music labels. Especially SME knowing what they did to Kaguya Luna. I mean, we shouldn't really be surprised since if SME could screw with Michael fucking Jackson of all people than what hope does any Chuuba have? Which is why I think it's smart that cover started to expand their discography and is starting to become it's own label instead of depending on an outside company. If they pull it off then they basically have control instead of having to negotiate it with someone else.
This thread got extremely bad once Mito comically underperformed. Why?
>>13102358She chose bothhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpHzXSWg8Fw
>>13102409It didn’t, that’s a normal state.
>>13102377didn't they pull that off already with Bloom? they became their own music label and their talents' original songs are under their label?
>>13102370>>13102353I said i'm sorry lol, I'm just so happy i accidentally sent it here
>>13102358>>13102408She also considers taking dance lessons for fun after the live. How can one hikki rabbit have that much energy and autism to do those is beyond everyone.
>>13102457You don't need to apologize. All you have to do is to get your ass from this thread and dive right into appropriate thread.
>>13102471Shes the choosen one
>>13102409Nijisisters angrily coping cause she mist likely wont get gold today
>>13095296>China lowest score on Italian foodThey are so salty pasta is better than noodles its hilarious
>>13102169>NijiEN is literally their worst performing branchHOLY KEK!!!!
>>13102195>22 minutes per viewThat's good actually
>>13102572NijiID... NijiKR...
>>13102452BLOOM was a pretty ambitious endeavor since there was no record label involved. An entire concert with nothing but original songs. It was amazing too. I thought it blew the doors off of Holofes. I just wish it had a live audience. Man was it great though.
>>13102452I mean they have a foot in the door. It'll take more than one (albeit successful) concert before we can call it a true success
>>13102377Most holomem use NexTone for music stuff
>>13102638Well, two successes now with Suisei. It's coming along, all things considered. Has Watame released an album with all her originals yet?
>>13102452They are going that way, specially after Moona confirming they now have a budget for orisongs
Any update from Oricon anon?
>>13102620fucking blue clapper man. I love that song. still felt blueballed yesterday by Lamy. can't believe she chose secret base instead of blue clapper.
>>13096616>10/04/2020 101,868 Noel Outfit reveal2021?
>>13100000>>13099999
>>13102409The female vtuber at nijisanji can't outperform kuzuha
>Sasaki 22k>What,jpg>Kuzuha in discordILLEGAL
>>13096616PPTrio mogging the shit out of everyone to get the first 100k+ vtuber streams 3 weeks in a row was the fucking best, I miss those days of yonkisei unity so much
>>13103295Higher numbers than her outfit reveal + birthday. Kek. Manjisanji is not a meme.
>>13103295>Deploy kuzuha on every niji stream to boost the numberTrust the plan
>>13103304>pptrio>yonkisei unityI think I understand what you're going for but that's still amusing.
>>13103436the kuzuha atlas only gets bigger
https://youtu.be/PrnIOGFWyf4Subaru playing smash with viewers. She should get at least 15k. However, she may get more considering only Matsuri and Sora will be streaming at the same time
>>13102620Cover is building a pretty good catalogue of original songs. Multiple Holos have enough to do their own concerts never one the entire company. There were growing pains but doing without the assistance of a major label forced them to build their own competencies and now of course they keep the money in house. Ironically focusing on music/concerts hurts your numbers in the short term, though it can help in the long term and obviously is a huge cash cow
I woke up with the weirdest thought todayYoutube recommended me a Mel clip which I'd never watch but it's still there which means people with the same interest as me is watching that, but that's beside the point. It got me thinking,Can you numberfags prove if being "an unironic whore", or "coomerbait", or "unapologetic very lewd", pays off? In the short or long term?
>>13103692I'll go with 20k-25k considering her yakuza floor
>>13103692Last time Nenechi got around 15k peak if I'm not wrong
>>13095296>separate categories for china, hong kong, and taiwannYou love to see it
>>13103304I get it... because pptrio killed yonkisei. And then pptrio died. At least Kanata and Watame are doing well on their own.
>>13103722Can't give numbers but I have to assume it is if only in the short term. Why else would every indie,VShoujo and even Niji and Holo go that route if it didn't? Kronii and Marine are good examples in Holo while Finana, despite being the most vulgar NijiEN outpaces her branchmates like Pomu (who seems to be starting.to go that route now too). Issue becomes if that's really the only thing you can offer because it's not really a viable long term strategy.
>>13103295Boosted sasaki then opens his own stream
>>13103866>Kronii>"an unironic whore", or "coomerbait", or "unapologetic very lewd"You must be kidding. While I wouldn't say she never does anything that may be construed as that she's far from being the one I'd think of as a "good example". For fucks sake Gura is probably a better example in that she intentionally teases her viewers, mostly in member streams. Kiara is the one who acts the most vulgar in HoloEN.
>>13103866>Kroniitalk about a dumb post, I bet not even her clips would imply that
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1460564110806949891Saturday's ticket sold out but Friday hasn't yet. It fits the number trend where everyone's numbers tend to be on the lower end side.
>>13103722>Can you numberfags prove if being "an unironic whore", or "coomerbait", or "unapologetic very lewd", pays off? In the short or long term?Being sexually overt without being excessively promiscuous can be a buff, one that Marine uses to great success.The secret seems to be to project the message>I could be lewd with youwithout also passing>I could be lewd with anyone and everyoneIt's a fine line
Still Still Stellar sold 359 Physical Albums last week, 215 Digital Albums.Total: 20634 Physical, 7745 Digital.1∞ Color sold 349 Physical Albums last week.Total: 1785 PhysicalSunny!! (Pmaru-sama) sold 181 Physical Albums last week.Total: 21145 Physical
Three things1) This is 100% I-LL-E-G-AL2) Today is gearing up to be a slow enough day for a 30k+ stream to be able to win the day3) I understand that a solo concert free part should not get many views (on the assumption the paying patrons will be at the paid event) but I think 20k was a little bit on the small side
>>13104051Is it possible for Suisei to catch PMaru before the end of the year or this was a one off?
No trend numbers for mito live?
Are they viewbotting her? Her chat is so slow like theres only 5-6 people chatting
>>13103866I was thinking like there could be a way to get some linear regression or other numeric tool to find the + or - EV by applying some sort of "lewdness" variable to their curve
>>13103965>>13104009I mean the guy did talk about coomerbait and although I agree that Kronii doesn't act vulgar or whorish, that goddamn design and voice is just absolute SSSSEEEEEXXXXX. Kroniies are basically the best examples of Takeshis evolving into Goslings.
PSSSSSSSST>HEY NUMBERFAGS!COMBAT THIS!PekGura, combining Gura western virality and Pekora work ethics and consistency.>PROTIP: you can'tHer hair is unbraided to limit her power a little
>>13104177Apex streams’ chats are always slow, especially on Twitch and in collabs.
>>13104285Add bilingual skills and you have the perfect life form.
>>13104017oh yeah i forgot about that, how long did it take for the saturday tickets to sold out anyway?
>>13096616i'm proud in saying i'm not one of those numbers who watched bitch graduation stream
>>13104225The guy is talking about an active decision, not a passive buff. Kronii doesn't usually actively go for the coomerbait angle. I'd argue that she doesn't fit the category being presented here.
>>1310414526.4k
>>13097896>based
>>13104017friday is a slow day in general
Subaru surely inclined lately. Depending on how long she can hold on to her fights she will break 20k
>>13104310sounds like a cope lmao
>>13104465Can she beat Mito's free part of the Concert?
>>13104465not really that recent, she's inclined ever since the subaru duck meme. she's definitely made gen2 one of the strongest gens, if only they streamed more...
>>13104560>Can she beat Mito's free part of the Concert?She's already got 20k but the peaks are too short so live-ranking may miss it if she doesn't hold for some time>>13104575>not really that recentRecent in the span of the existence of Gen 2
>>13104339Yeah, but then it wouldn't be Gura or Pekora. It'd just be Kiara pretending to be Gura pretending to be Pekora.
>>13104575Ayame... >Could get Fubuki or Korone numbers if she streams moreAqua... >fuckin declined in streams but atleast now the main face of holo sponsorshipChoco>she's atleast hanging on and have the ShubaLunaChoco TrioShion>not even shark cunny can beat this one's laziness/depression?
>>13104611we always have holostats anyway
>>13104560Maybe? Subaru at this point should be considered a high tier Holo. Someone who can get 10k almost on the reg and get roughly 20k from time to time. She's not Pekora or Marine but she's definitely above the Mios and even Kanata's of Hololive.
>>13104560>Can she beat Mito's free part of the Concert?She just did.Subaru is something else, she provides the PERFECT>tomboy gaming girlfriend experience without even going for that, it's just her natural enthusiasm towards the game.
>>13104741https://files.catbox.moe/4uxc1q.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/az59zt.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/p59n49.mp4Subaru is the perfect GFE for people who want a normie gf that happens to enjoy games.
>>13104741god I want to fuck Subaru so hard
Bad numbers except for Leos
>>13104408Thanks, missed the tweet because it fell off so quickly.
>>13104741Nijisanji embarassing fucking company
>>13104810Lain...what the fuck happened
>>13104810>Lain...Seriously, if you're an aspiring female vtuber who has any form of skill, is there any reason at all why you'd pick going to Nijisanji over Holo? Unless you're a fujo or yumejo and even then you'd have to deal with the autism of your fellow Fujos.
>>13104736>should be consideredHer numbers are there already. There is a>PekoMarineKuzuha tierof having a consistent presence in the 25k zone, then there is the top tier.
>>131047418k less than Watame free section
>>13104938>Lain>who has any form of skillIsn't the biggest criticism towards her the fact she lacks any form of charm, talent and skill?
>>13104938You can flirt with men and boost them up
>>13104940gura...sorry couldnt help it
>>13105002S-she has VOD views!
>>13104938They can't get into Holo. >>13104984kek you win.
>>13104810I thought anons said Leos is not doing good?
>>13104938Considering the constant enjou that is part of the fanbase's culture at this point and the low return, unless you were a hardcore Nijifan or detested the restrictions that Cover/Hololive puts on you there's no real reason unless you're rejected by Hololive. There's something to be said about not wanting to be in Holo due to the culture around that but it's really the only reasonable thing I can think of.>>13105002Here, let's get the EN schizo posting over with:OMG GURA FUCKING SUCKS SHE SHOULD GRADUATE ALONG WITH THE REST OF HOLOEN THE USELESS FUCKS.
>>13104938I mean, it's not like Holo pushes down waves as consistently as Nijisanji
Matsuri surely is doing well in this karaoke. Strongest numbers for hers in quite a while.She took a brief leave of absence 3 days ago (I hadn't even noticed kek) and returned now, is this a return buff?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruC8uatmxDICan we take a second to appreciate Matsuri is getting 7k on her utawaku? That's not only way above her median, but also the most she's gotten for a singing stream in months.
>>13105052>restrictionsThe "restriction" is pretty normal though? And even if there is "restriction", the benefits far outweighs it.
Makes me wonder how entertaining an "x country has talent' style audition for Hololive would be in Japan. Or maybe something like old school American idol?.
>>13104938>Nijisanji over Holoyou're saying as if getting into Hololive is an easy task. The requirement for entry is gonna get higher and higher. Didn't Subaru say that for gen 5 each spot was 1/2000?
>>13105113Gen 5 has had a ton of breathing room to establish themselves after a rocky start. They might all reach a million before JP6 debuts. You can’t really ask for more as a talent
>>13105052You're stealing his job Anon...Also I love how that schizo that was (pretending to be) a Nijikek stfu as soon as the graph that showed everyone dropped during December got linked. Yea, Gura's November is gonna be bad, just like her April was pretty terrible due to MH. Ah well, sometimes playing a game you enjoy > numbers, especially with Gura. Her numbers will reflect her lack of care wrt big numbers for the month, unless she gets hooked on MC again or something.
>>13105131Nope
>>13105149>Makes me wonder how entertaining an "x country has talent' style audition for Hololive would be in Japan. Or maybe something like old school American idol?.Nips don't roll that way (for the most part)Their idol "ascension" process is more similar to the american sports ascension process>junior varsity idol>school idol>town idol>city idol>regional idol>national idol
>>13105127Matsuri gets decent views if she's not playing apex or collabing with outsiders.
>>13105157Yes but Hololive doesn't seem to want to push for more waves unlike Nijisanji who are happy to saturate the fuck out of the market
>>13105138I agree, which is why I said you'd have to have an autistic dislike for Hololive's culture or obsession with Niji/Niji's culture to not choose Holo over Niji.
>>13105166You're talking about her DMC4 stint, right?
>>131051551:1200 was the number and in that she also said the scouting department told her that she had potential because she was a bit weird and was pretty enthusiastic about the stuff she did.
>>13105131>>13105127Matsuri basically spent months doing everything possible to tank her numbers. She won’t rebound overnight but if she returns to the content they made her popular and actually interacts with her coworkers instead of say playing Apex for hundreds of hours or collabing with Nijis there’s no reason she can’t rejoin the mid ranks
>>13105157Hololive is only hiring experienced hags in their JP branch its kinda annoying we won't have bright faced young talents (unless its Nene)
>>13105215Nijisanji didn’t have a wave for a year and you know it very well.
>>13105224DMC4 and probably trying to finish Metroid iirc, both which are unfortunately bad for numbers.
>>13105216Holo culture is bad but Nijisanji has a different style of bad, Hololive fanbase became baffled when nijisanji fans started harassing Chigusa over singing the nijisanji song because they literally cheer when a newbie holo does the same.
>>13105215Push obviously not. But it seems the natural progression for some successful Holos is their schedule starts to get crammed with obligations and their stream hours suffer (or their health). That seems like a good time to add some fresh faces.
>>13105246Yeah because they had to spam waves in the EN market. Wave is on it's way.
>>13105246If you're talking exclusively about JP sure, but they are still pushing waves on their other branches pretty consistently.
>>13105245I wish, the only hag in gen 5 is botan
>>13105230I swear, we keep having these kinds of posts about being surprised that Matsuri can still get these numbers whenever she's not doing apex or collabs with non-holos. I hope its just from newfags and not people that are trying to bait in one way or another.
>>131051551:1200. So you basically have 6000 applicants vying for 5 spots. This was also prior to fall 2020 before Hololive really exploded so for all we know we could be looking at double that amount of applicants all trying to get into those same 5 slots. And now that Cover can afford to be picky, they don't even have to settle for those applicants either and can just scout talent outside the Vtubing sphere. I do wonder if more underground and former idols will start applying seeing the success that nenechi has.
>>13105295Huh? Why were they mad? Even if it’s not a great song SSS is basically wrapped around to being a meme at this point
>>13105245Nene, Lamy, and Aloe are pretty young anon...
>>13105230She surely needs to bounce back into shape, here is the dangerous neighbourhood she occupies for the first half of the month>lower position of all of HoloJP, including being outranked by Mel, Choco, Sora, Aki and Roboco>being outranked by Bora Nun>being outranked by Selen>being adjacent to Elira>being closedly tailed by ReineAll she needs to do is exactly what you said>lay off APEX>return to the box
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1460578394916016129more music. this time, they are remixing fan-favorite tracks
>>13105377I have no idea how old is Lamy and where did they even get her from
>>13105295Anon what part of>Considering the constant enjou that is part of the fanbase's culturedid you not get. I agree, Nijiculture has it's own bad aspects, and personally I feel like the Holo restrictions aren't all that bad all things considered. The constant boxpushing and policing around Holoculture also definitely helps in that enjou often gets trampled under the masses.
>>13105328is polka not....?>>13105329When she overlaps with stronger Holos with her Karaoke her numbers do suffer sole, but yes she's still able to get these numbers with Non-apex/outsider collabs, especially now that the yabs have had some time to fade from memory.
>>13105344Former/failed idol or kpop girls seem like a natural fit but Cover seems to like hiring people with niche or oddball interests or demographic appeals. Hard to stand out with generic idol skills. Also let’s them broadened their appeal to sponsors and carve out niche audiences
>>13105230if she wants to play apex then do it only for tournaments, no practice streams, and streams opening the boxes for that supas
>>13105364"You fucking leech you haven't proven yourself worthy of the nijisanji name yet, and still you dare sing Nijisanji's signature song? Know your place female bitch"Basically that
>>13105364Something something, you have to earn the right to sing it. It's elitist autism from a particular section of the Niji "fanbase". I put it in quotation marks because they may as well be part time antis. I wonder what kind of an effect their presence has had on Niji's numbers as a whole.
>>13104177He is right >>13104310This is the usual behavior of viewers during the apex stream.
>>13105364She had not earned the right to sing VtL yet.>>13105404Her yakuza connection.
>>13105393a-chan needs a 3D model
>>13105364Because apparently singing the group anthem is srs bzns to them. Japanese "earn it" autismo is next level stupid sometimes.
>>13105472What would A-chan's 3d numbers be?
>>13105447>if she wants to play apex then do it only for tournamentsThere is an expectation of performance to play on APEX tournaments and things can really go sideways if you tank your team because you didn't practice.It is the exact reasoning Botan gave for being picky about which tournaments she would accept (if any)>if it is a tournament where practice is required count me offYou can have lots of fun on APEX by their tournament audience expects a certain level of performance (specially in cross company collabs) which can become very vicious if you are dragging their oshi down.
>>13105417she's still a cake
>>13105472Doesn't she already have one by virtue of the fact she's in Hologra?
>>13105393Cover needs more good mixers. A remix contest night finds some diamond in the rough. Worked for Mori. >>13105382That weird Haachama drama hurt her considerably. It’s very rare for interHolo drama to become visible to fans.
>>13105472A...anon? Have you been living under a rock? https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1323323992326000642
>>13105505>>13105505then she needs a proper debut outside of hologra
>>13105245>only hiring experienced hagsThat’s demonstrably false. Cover loves having a young fresh face every generation to be their JK virtual idol like Sora. Mumei is the most recent. JP6 will have a barely 18 chuuba hopefully paired with a manager that wont fuck her over like Aloe
>>13105225>scouting department told her that she had potential because she was a bit weird and was pretty enthusiastic about the stuff she did.holy shit, Cover's scouting team is actually god-tier. who would have thunk that a genki normie girl that barely knows about the internet would make a damn good chuuba.
>>13105498Yea, it must be the fact that she hangs out with Bakatare so much that's got me mixed up, thanks. >>13105472Anon...
>>13105404Lamy's family background screams Yakuza family, and she's the pampered ojou.
>>1310549269k
>>13105507Well DJ Tekina/Yuyoyuppe is pretty well known in Vocaloid community
>>13105495Of course she needs to practice with your team just don't stream your pov
>>13105455Basically the same effect the niji thread over on jp had that gave people the impression impression that nijifags are all a bunch of elitist bastards
>>13105344>source:my assAnon-chama, Cover failed to hire TWO people to fill in their pre made models. Where are your 6000 applicants then? This only proves that NO ONE wants to work for Cover because they have already outed as a black company who only takes in the cash and doesn't even bother to support their talents or ensure their models/3D are of decent quality.I'm a Holobro and even I'd agree that working for Niji is a better option because atleast you're not supporting a fucking black company
>>13105537I said recent JP gens anon, if they were hiring inexperienced bright faced girls then kakages daughter and the other one would have been claimed already.
>>13105545Part of Subaru’s appeal is as a straight man to the antics around her while still being high energy and charismatic. Which is also why Luna and Choco convincing her bathing and sleeping naked together is totally normal for sure is pretty amusing.
>>13105507>That weird Haachama drama hurt her considerably.It didn't, not from the fanbase side. Matsuri and Haachama aren't interacting on a regular basis for what, some 18 months to 2 years now? I don't recall seeing Matsuri and Haachama hanging out casually or even interacting (outside the 3D lives) since Haachama-Watame and Matsuri-Luna was a thing.Things went sour for Matsuri with her own fanbase, I don't think anyone from the other girls fanbase even had a second glance her direction, mostly because she's so isolated by herself people only reminds her from her "bandaid" glory days
Jesus Christ, Gura's number is an embarrassment. How the fuck has HoloEN declined so much?
>>13105448the real idolfags are nijikeks after allthey love to deflect
>>13105592Why are nijiniggers like this?
>>13105537you wish, they will never hire another gaki after all the menhera shit with Aloe, only cakes and hags
>>13104741Mito only has a huge following because of first mover advantage but by sheer talent alone, she's overmatched by all top tier Holos.
>>13105591They did a good job to "gatekeep", something that Hololive fans failed to do. This board could never exist potentially.
>>13105592https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOcfpAtVPuwThe source is Subaru. Go take your meds.
>>13105545They were just hiring anyone they could get their hands on Subarus time, like Haato and Shion were underage with I dunno 2 years of twitcast experience when they got hired.
>>13104741nijisanji reclining
>>13105592Retard
>>13105651and now they seethe endlessly that nobody watches their nijisThe eternal paradox of nijiniggers
>>13105645Something something Sora
the schizo poster is back
Strong opening for pekkers 24k already.
>>13105680and then they regret it 6 months later and start paying for clippers.
>>13105592based shitposterchama have a (You)
Another easy 30k for pekora incoing. At this point I'm starting to believe 30k is her base, not her peak
>>13105722You would think so but anon is 100% unironic.He completely disregards the fact Hololive debuted >11 EN>5 JP>3 IDafter that recruitment, more than proving that there was no lack of candidates
>>13105709I remember that post on Reddit. Wonder if that has done anything positive to Nijisanji on a global scale.
>>13105662You make it sound like Haachama and Shion and bad talents or something. They are both upper mid tier when they actually stream. They would be top tier in any other company
>>13105746>30k is her baseSee >>13104940, her median of peaks for November so far is 34k and she's still going strong
>>13105752People would kill to join Hololive, black company or not. Just look at what Sony did to Kaguya fucking Luna
>>13105752Well duh, that was a PR speak for "we don't want to use these models anymore" or "our applicants don't want to use these models".
>>13105746Judgement streams say otherwise, her floor is still 22k-25k. she finds it easier to get 30k lately though if she uses the right game.
Who's this guy? A fellow numberfag showed him to me but I dont see him getting mentioned herehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiAONpBlBxxtKD4YE6K-ckw
>>1310575211 EN = Failure5 JP = Bad3 ID = Nepotism
Slow and steady, trust the plan.
>>13105507the bossa nova and lofi versions of their songs are fucking great. give them a try. https://youtu.be/VPBqpyub4Kchttps://youtu.be/XD1t7JHbge0
>>13105769Reddit is a microcosm of the problem Niji faces. There’s no traffic to their sub unless you are already a fan. Hololive hits the front page constantly and sucks in tourists while Hololive memes crop up constantly on weeb subs in general
>131058102 in 1 schizo, sugoi
What's wrong with the holoen? Why are their subs dead?
>>13105752I refuse to believe that anon is unironic, even actual nijiniggers wouldnt be that delusional to think nobody would audition for what literally looks like easy money to normies
>>13105592don't you have a song to gatekeep nijikek?
>>13105772Shion's bratty personality is very attractive since people love to (ToT)
>>13105746If there's any truth to the rrat that Pekora applied to Niji and got rejected, then Anykara's entire scouting department should unironically kill themselves. Draft Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan brehs.
Any possibility of 30k today? I'd laugh my ass off if she manages to pull it off.
>>13105842Walk me through your math.
>>13105801Actually, yeah that's pretty good numbers for an indie. Who the hell is this guy?
What are the chances that Google is listening in on you and your endeavors in /vt/ and decides to feed you shit that you have no direct connection to other than browsing /#/ and the catalog?
Is there anyone who can challenge Queen Usada for Gold today?
>>13105772Nah, he's correct, first gen recruitment was prettu much this meme but "join Hololive" instead of "Robux".Matsuri describes her "recruitment" process as Tanigo giving her the phone with the streaming software, letting her doing whatever and in the end of the month (when she thought she would have to pay for the software) they sent her a check and she realized she would get a salary
>>13105884Makes me wonder how on earth did cover choose her? Considering the stories on how she act with her genmates, you would think she is a hard choice.
>>13105885She's literally minutes away from it
>>13105615The rest of the girls slowly dragging Subaru into the pits of otakudom and yuribaiting is hilarious. Corruption fetish is strong.
>>13105752They're clearly lacking candidates in Japan for those models seeing as the only 5 JPs they recruited ended up being extremely mediocre.
>>13105645this
>>13105602The recent JP gen had Aloe and Nene.>>13105644Coco, Towa, Mio all have yabs. Why don’t you think cover will stop hiring cakes and hags?
>>13105905If you watch streams it's not surprising that Google would recommend you streams from other vtubers, that's literally what the algo is designed to do.
>>13105884isn't there a narrative around saying that Marine also applied but got rejected as well?
>>13105884I feel like these rrats exist for every single vtuber.
>>13105796wasnt judgement a sponsor stream? getting over 20k while shilling a game seems pretty nice
>>13105907Haachama?
>>13105885Mito...>>13105884Probably just a narrative since I've heard the same thing but with Marine instead.
>>13105905Yt recommend me Kuzuha today and I've never watched the dude. I only peeked at his videos list once a long time ago to see if another vid talking about his thumbnails was right.
>>13105914Pekora? Miko recommended her.They’ve been friends since the NND times.
>>13105907>Is there anyone who can challenge Queen Usada for Gold today?People are discounting the Haachama's power of attracting curious onlookers waiting for her to self destruct on camera, only to turn it into a "wacky karaoke" to an initial audience of 50k which dies down to 12k in a few minutes, inflating her peak
>>13105230>collabing with NijisThis seemed wrong, And i hate when people are wrong. I checked her channel. 5 months of streams i went back, one collab with nijisanji members. Just one. Sure, plenty with 774, indies and streamers , but just one stream with njijsanji members (Phasmo with Gundou and Chigusa)
>>13105911why does Yagoo sound so shady kek
>>13105914Cover likely took a look at her streaming history, asked "You wanna try reforming yourself?" And when she said Yes, they just went with it 'cause their scouting department has ESP or something.
>30k get
30k get, easy as fuck
>>13105819nijisisters...
>>13105884Im almost certain you guys just mixed it up with Marine, since the oldest ive heard in regards to Pekora is that Miko was the one who convinced her to become a vtuber and arranged it so that she'd be chosen in Hololive.
>>13105905>What are the chances that Google is listening in on you and your endeavors in /vt/ and decides to feed you shit that you have no direct connection to other than browsing /#/ and the catalog?100%. I never even knew VSPO existed but, after that VSPO debut I briefly "unembeded" in this thread, some VSPO girls and even clips started popping up on my suggestions
>>1310597518k
>>13105975:Dthat smiley killed the potential numbers
>>13105945At this point every top tier Holo has a rrat that they once applied to nijisanji and got rejected, I wouldn't put much stock in it.
>>13105945Yes, I've heard that rrat floating around. I have yet to see any concrete proof for the Peko or Marine rrats wrt Niji, so I'll put a big 'X to doubt' on their validity for now.
>>13106000Did you watch Towa's clip? VSPO clips might come from there.
>>13105987I'm paraphrasing and "enhancing" for drama but she legit described it as "not knowing I would receive a salary" and "I thought I would have to pay for it"
>>13105951I might be confusing the story but she was asking for permission to play that series but got sponsorship instead. It's a series related to yakuza series but less popular to EOP I'm guessing. The finales of both got 30k+though.
>>13105907maybe hachaama with her bait drama
>>13105975Highly doubt it could challenge Pekkers, but Haachama are welcome to surprise me.
>>13106023Yes, and I ended up getting some Bora Nuns too.For some reason, despite being absurdly multilingual, I never ever got a recommend for NijiEN.
>>13105978You aren’t supposed to post that.
>>13106007>>13105975I don't numberfag potential graduation announcement. I'm happy she had a smiley face as title.When Nijifags brings up Koshien then i just use Sportsfest but not Coco's Grad.Graduation is a serious topic and it's kinda rude to use it (atleats for me)
>>13105978Didn't she have some collabs without her POV in the period, being one of the complaints from her fanbase?
>>13105907Considering how Haachama's drinking stream got 10k. Even a bait thumbnail might be struggle for her. The filtering of her viewers hurt her number.
>>13106066Cope, nijinigger
Wait, I just woke up. How the fuck did Sasaki got 24k in her stream?
>>13106066Holy cope nijikek
>>13105942This is way too left field though. The only JP chuuba that I watch with any modicum of regularity is Aki (I would count IRyS too since she's a hafu in Japan, but she mostly speaks English). Everyone else gets views whenever something interesting is on.
>>13106110ILLEGAL VOICE CHAT with SILVERBOY
>>13106110Discord sex with kuzuha.
>>13106093She took too many hiatus too fast, baiting graduation everytime. Her audience grew tired of that shit. She should have taken the Ayame approach of just not streaming without the drama around it, and she would have kept most of her Schizo arch numbers
>>13106066Anon, this is the numbers thread.This place would numberfag a chuuba zip locking a big plastic bag over her head and making a >auto erotic asphixiation endurance karaoke until I cum, pass out and die or get 40k subsand fucking dying.The top comment in this thread would likely be>too weak, only held for 17 minutes before dying, should have breathed slowlier to save on oxigenand from that point on the discussion would become an attempt to calculate the volume of oxygen in the bag and how long she could have held, and how many subs she could have got.If you attach any feelings to the numbers you are in the wrong thread.
>>13106053I often got a recommend for Pomu and Finana. I think you'll get some Niji EN clips recommendation if you watched Holo EN clips especially chicken's.
>>13106110Silverboy on stream
>Pekora playing a 16 year old game winning against Kuzuha playing splatoon with a buffed tourney statusHe kneeled
>>13106157you say those but jp are already numberfagging Okayu's piss pattern.
>>13106174fujos don't look!
Botan 10k playing some Square Enix new game's closed beta, likely sponsored.
>>13106174The 30k was buffed by her choosing the cute and funny character.
>>13106174Illegal screenshot, gonna report you to the cyber police pal.
>>13106174ILLEGAL SCREENSHOT! PUT YOUR HANDS UP!
>>13106189I don't see the paid promotion thingy but that are good numbers for that shitty game
>>1310618910k for a sponsored game are pretty good.
>>13105577Aern't they a bit ... High-profile for Cover?
>>13106174Silverboy.... not like this...
>>13106238they dont really need to tag it as paid promotion, youtube doesnt seem to give a fuck about it anyways. Even Pekora forgot to tag about half of her judgment streams with them
>>13106085Last few collabs without povs I remember from matsuri were with Masanorichan (apex streamer) and Annin Miru (Yahoo Taiwan vtuber).I doubt many long time matsuri fans complain if she collabs and shows up with nijisanji members. It's her scrims and small time collabs that thank her numbers. Not nijisanji members.Anyway, the last time I remember Masturi playing apex with a nijisanji member was nijipex 5 months ago where she won it with chihiro. Most people begrudgingly congratulated her for that.
>>13106254Not really. He already made remix for Suisei's album as well. If you looked at Holo's original songs, you'll find a lot of high profile names.
>>13106288my numberfag soul cries everytime they forgot ot add the thing
Is Pekora really getting gold with Ape Escape? Weak day
Suisei's plushie still sold pretty well on CDJapan.
>>13105911>>13105289 Mel said similar thing
>>13105911YAGOO sounds kinda based ngl
>>13106314>Most people begrudgingly congratulated her for that.Was that really how it was in the JP side? Cause from how I remembered it here, a lot were cheering her win since a Holo won the Niji tournament that should have been stacked for their company.
>>13106370week day.
>>13106370Depends how many people bite Chammers' bait
>>13106386Still?! Blue woman too strong. And this is for international only with a super long wait. Makes me wonder how many orders they got domestically.
Wasn't there a Mito concert today? Did it get moved, or what?
>>1310646720-21k peak.
https://www.tiktok.com/@hololive_official/video/7031090049697533185Huh Hololive has a Tiktok account. The content is different from their Twitter and Youtube too.
>>13105993Number rabbit, is there any way to stop her?
Is it a good idea for any of the Holomembers to do a weekly (?) Show that introduces small time VTubers in a Holotalk fashion? Would Cover green light this kind of idea?
>>13106475Oh wow...
Mito's concert Twitter hashtag.
>>13106479better be in the market somehow than not be
>>13106507No, duh. What do they gain from this? Why break the bubble themselves?
>>13105911>>13106388Cover really had no idea what they hell they were doing when debuting first gen. Aki only got her phone three days before she was scheduled to debut, Mel wasn't even supposed to be in 1st gen and came from a different project that got cancelled, the whole thing was billed as a part time job you can do between school, and the only instructions they got was "Here's an iphone, I dunno, stream or something".If they were an indie EN start up these days they'd be put on the same level as pearl orient or the dozen of other EN agencies that were basically glorified scams
>>13106386Were her fans starved for merch? Still surprised it outsold Coco/Pekora/Marine. Or was it the cdjapan/album sales synergy?
>>13106507No and no
>>13106189It's platinum's new game.
>>13106537Heh that kinda reminds me of amber glow.Actually speaking of which, what happened to them? The board was flooded with Terumi threads a couple months ago and now and I don't think I've seen one in weeks.
>>13106531Marine's nun show got more than Mito's first solo live...
>>13106507How would that benefit them?
>>13106531Not even top 5…
Susan's having a fit on Botan's stream.
>>13106507You mean what Kson is doing?
>>13106636jesas
>>13106507Haachama did it once and that is where we found desuwa, but I can't find the stream.>>13106548Not really. Suisei's merch game is just very strong. For example her Weiss Schwarz card and her Donki plushie are the most expensive on auction websites. Her album sales too.
>>13106548International shipping. Yes, overseas hoshiyomi are desperate.
>>13106066nijikeks were ready to shit on Gura when Lulu reached 180k in her graduation, you'll never see the end of it
>>13106636>>13106681It was like watching that Sans fight when he switches between multiple multiple timelines
>>13106575Global audience vs Japan-centric audience. I remember I used to tell some Niji elitists that there was a cap to Japanese popularity and that they were fast approaching it back in June/April 2020 and they told me that “no, Nijisanji doesn’t need the global market, they don’t need to pander to EOPs” which is certainly true in that Niji can survive and thrive perfectly well on a primarily JOP market, but in terms of retaining their No. 1 spot it just wasn’t enough.
>>13106029>>13106388"Hey kid, you wanna be a star? I give you everything you need to achieve that. Just get in this building"Early Cover was indeed wild.
will pekora end before hachaama's announcement?
>>13106507That only is a good idea if what you want is to generate good will, but they already got the good will from cross company collabs. It simply is not a good business decision to essentially give free advertising to a potential competitor.
>>13106531Pretty popular with EOPs
>>13106727If not its probably not serious, also the game is like 8 hours long.
>>13106727Why should she? It's probably just a schizo stream or utawaku.
>>13105991Fucking Yagoo is Haruhi willing everything into existent.
>>13106720Looking at the graph that was posted earlier, what’s causing the steep decline in viewership?
>>13106725"You wanna be a [BIG SHOT]?" you hear as the oddly well dressed man offers you a phone...
>>13106759If it isn't her announcing stuff for her birthday I'll eat my hat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OXwlIR7ZvIThis stream probably will get a boost from concerned Holofans.
>>13106787Wait, I though Nene was on break
>>13106773sounds like some sort of casting couch shit. I would be creeped out if I were a girl interviewing for early Hololive.
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1460593978391547904?t=_W3MSsd55dNr0kwrfQLdJQ&s=19holoen 3d delayed
>>13105914>>13105884This rrat has no legs because Pekora was a scouted talent, her model was never up for audition so she wouldn't be applying to Niji anyways
>>13106813She will still be in two collabs that were already arranged.
>>13106414On the jp side people saw nijipex as an very unbalanced event that was poorly managed. Chichan's team was quite overpowered, with it's two high dia/master level girls and an active pro. While other teams were just 3 plat level niji livers like Hayama ,Yashiro and Maimoto.Chi got flames by niji fans as usual, they thought it just ended up being a showcase for Chi at the expense of everyone else, and most holo fans didn't want to touch it.
>>13106324Lamy's original song comes to mind
>>13106742Yes. Mainly to generate good will in VTubing community. While talents themselves are friends with a lot of small indies, not all of the fans know this and predominant image seems to be that "Hololive doesn't bring anything to VTubing community". While I know this is retarded surface level take, apart from Mori, I haven't seen any of the talents bring attention to talented indies.This could prove useful in long run maybe?Also, I don't think any of the small indies are Hololive's direct competitors.
>>13106813She said that would attend already planned collabs. This one and another one at 24th
>>13106830so this pretty much confirms they already have the models done and they only need the girls to come
>>13106689>but I can't find the streamIt’s the “mixer”. She bungled so hard it was one of the few streams legit die in the wool Haaton showed dissatisfaction with her. Imagine she saying “Ogeeey, you can call now” and her Skype lighting up with a cacophony of some 30 indies trying to call at the same time because she didn’t scheduled them, just told them to call. It was fun as fuck but not something she would ever repeat, as she doesn’t have the organizational skills for that
>>13106830I didn't even know they announced 3d
>>13106479Nene...forever denied by the lion.
>>13106813Yeah but she said that she will do any planned collab.>>13106830Same case with ID's 3D. They can't travel to Japan.https://www.mofa.go.jp/ca/fna/page4e_001053.htmlNorth America : Canada, United States of AmericaEurope : Austria
>>13106830GOD FUCKING DAMN IT ABE, JUST OPEN THE DAMN COUNTRY
>>13106830they never even announced the EN 3D models, that's one hell of a way to confirm it
>>13106897they didn't. since it was ages between ID's announcement and now they probably didn't want to announce EN's until they knew when they could fly them over
>>13106772Schizobrain time...Japan is hitting it's current 'availabke chubba-watching audience', and any gains made at this point must by necessity come from competitors. Since Hololive is current on a roll, with the sportsfes and everything, they may be starting to eat away at the casual audience that follows Nijisanji. After summer, there were no real big events, and as a result...(note, I have no idea if this is actually true or not nor do I have any hard data to go by, only that HoloJP went up in the same period that NijiJP went down below it's weakest point in a a while...)
>>13106772No fucking clue, don’t ask me. Content and quality of content hasn’t declined, there were enjous but those are par for the course in Niji. My guess is people just jumped ship. Hololive continued to grow in popularity and I imagine the casuals may have been enticed. Plus I know that VsPro and Shibuya Hal et. al were popular amongst Niji circles and they’ve probably absorbed some of it too. Apart from that, general recline in the VTuber market. Yes Hololive keeps growing, but the growth is more reasonable now. Several indie companies show decline or cease operations altogether. I think the VTuber honeymoon phase is done and over with, now’s the time for the grind, which makes Sony’s VTuber entry at this time kind of hilarious to me. But that’s just one retard’s analysis of something they are not qualified to analyze.
>>13106830im guessing they can soon announce HoloFes now, since ID and EN are confirmed not there now
>>13106689>we found
>>13106912Anon not only is Abe not PM anymore, his successor isn't even PM anymore
>>13106869stop daydreaming, 2view
>>13106782Isn't there a Towa stream on the same timeslot? Doubtful its anything serious, best case its just announcing some 3D or original song.
>>13106830I think it's time for America to pay Japan another visit with warships
>>13106869>goodwill>when they literally, quote Nijifags, "live inside their own bubble"no. just no.
>>13106907That page is basically a list of almost every country
https://youtu.be/cKZlCl5IL2MPekora ASMR collab with Mel a few months after her debut. It seems that Mel unarchived a lot of her old stuff.
>>13106953Fuck imagine how big HoloFes with no coof restriction plus ID and EN
>>13106869Anon, you forget that the small indie 2view market is literally their hiring pool. Anybody they have their eyes on can’t be called onto the show because otherwise fans would instantly know. The only ones you could pull on are people who would never join Holo, and at that point may as well just collab with people from the other companies.
>>13107035oh shit, I better download this, feels gold seeing Pekora's popularity
>>13106907they havent learnt their lesson huh
Can ID and EN fly to let's say Singapore for 14 day vacay first and then fly to Japan to circumvent the entrance ban?
>>13107045People will scream nepotism kek. That's why Mori's concern about Milky is pretty justified.
>>13106907if anything it's like to be due to Austria announcing a lockdown the other day. also i thought if you have the correct vaxx you could enter japan
>>13107087Retard, that's a shitstorm in the making
>>13106907Oh nice Bae and Sana can travel
>>13106869>Yes. Mainly to generate good will in VTubing community.Anon, if there is ANY LESSON to take from the last 70 years of “institutional altruism” is that >there is nothing to be gained from becoming “world police”, “nation builder” and “dispassionate benefactor”Here is what happened with whatever institution making an attempt>Whoever you help will never be as grateful as you imagine>whoever you can’t help will become resentful and whatever “goodwill” you get from even trying will IMMEDIATELY disappear the millisecond a conflict of interest arises and you have to choose your own benefit over the one of the segment you’re trying to help. Here is my suggestion for people and institutions alike>help yourself and yours first>after that, try to limit how much you hurt others in the process
>>13106830>Niji still operating concerts with packed audiences and no distancing>Japan still closing their borders due to coofKeikaku doori
>>13105772Haachama is hardly upper tier these days.
>>13107122all those donations to the COVID effort PR would've been for nothing if they do this. Yagoo is a good boy and wouldn't risk his company for short-term goals.
>>13107148slow and steady bros its happening.
>>13106982Abe will always be the primer minister of japan in my heart
>>13107088Hey, if it worked with Ina ...
>>13107148Nijisanji only picking venues that don’t care about Covid restrictions, downside is that they don’t allow screenshots kek
>>13107200They don’t allow screenshots so that nobody can report them to the government, actually smart.
>>13107087>MOSHI MOSHI>keisatsu desu ka?>ENschizo desu, I want to report a high profile immigration law violation
>>13107200Kuzuha's sololive was at the same place as Watame's sololive but the later allow screenshots.
>>13107200Oh shit you're right. You can't screenshot because it would be held against nijicolor
>>13107200Hold up... are they not allowing screenshots to avoid people pointing out the lack of covid safety measures?
>>13107251No, Watame was Tokyo and Kuzuha was Haneda
>>13106953They wont be in holofes even if they had 3d in time
>>13106982SHUT UP! Kishida is NOT my Prime Minister!
>>13107200The answer >>13107236 >>13107263The reasoning >>13107251Even then, they'd gladly take the fine than having to cancel the show.
Did Lazulight make any announcements on the anniversary? Outfits? Goods? 3D?
>>13107393No. They are severely lacking in merchandise.
>>13107191This. The only other pm I'll recognize is the one who manages to fix nippon's declining birthrate.
>>13107318That would be extremely unfair unless they also bar gen 5 from participating in holofes.
>pink Lamythe differences are too great. Lamy got more accessories for free since her mama and Cover love her due to various reasons.
>>13107492nta but seriously? not even voice packs? that's depressing.
>>13107498What about Taro Aso who is a big Rozen Maiden fan.
>>13105801>>13105897He's not tracked anywhere either but he gets decent numbers for a male indie
>>13107393Wrong thread? But they said something like "look forward to the event, we will announce things".
>>13107492studies soon to happen?
>>13107594Wave 4 announcements.Thread was talking about merch and sponsorships during burger hours.
>>13106689>>13106896that stream got privated for god knows how many reasons ranging from maybe doxxing a cover employee to the potential yab of accepting random callers.it's a shame too, because the format is pretty good for content and you can shift it around to a more acceptable holo format.
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1460546095402999812?s=20 Hololive is still recruiting for Holoalt btw
>>13107511They dont have an idol outfit and they havent done their idol reps
>>13107664Haachama is too creative for her own good. Her ideas would work really well if she weren't a corporate chuuba.
>>13107524Hello fellow hlg poster
>Towa and Flare overlapping HaachamaIt's nothingburger.
Can haato bait enough EOPs to beat Pekora today?
>>13107727you saw nothing
>>13107492I don't think Nijisanji has ever made physical merch available for their foreign branches and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon
>>13107524Yakuza princess will be spoiled or Yakuza boss will have you boiled.
>>13107686>art directorthey are more or less almost complete on recruiting. Devs are the priority.
>>13107594I thought they would announce limited VP or outfits. It would be interesting to count the numbers. SC numbers. Feesh is very strong
>>13107511>no song or dance lessonswhat do you expect anon?
seems like we got a little sidetracked today. how are the numbers doing?
>>13107756That sounds like a retarded idea.Then again, Nijisanji mainly cares about Japan.
EN 3D Prediction>Gura 410k>Calli 230k>Ame 200k>Ina 200k>Kiara 120kID 3D Prediction>Iofi 31k>Risu 33k>Moona 80k
>>13107711Her ideas would mostly be fine even for most corpos, it's just that hololive is that big so they need to be alot more careful about what they show to prevent another PR backlash like taiwan
>>13107851Pekora, Silverboy, Subaru podiumHaato might take from gold to nothing depending on how many she baits
>>13107869Go gypsy somewhere else, nigger.
>>13107692>>13107801They're more successful than gen 5 and you don't need an idol outfit to appear at holofes, see gen 4.
>>13107711honestly it would probably be fine if she just had a 4-5 person team behind her.
>>13107903I guess we're all waiting for Haachama right now. How close is Kuzuha's number compared to Pekora's?
>>13107656Has it been 2 months since wave 3?
>>13107865To be fair complaining about import fees is a thing holofags have been doing ever since merch was a thing so it's not like they don't have a reason why they aren't rushing to join the physical merch market.
>>13107851Pretty weak day. The gold is only 24k. Mito failed to surpass expectation.
chammer waiting room 20mins before start: 4.2k
>>131079439k behind
>>13107923no reps no holofes
>>13107955>24kPekkers got 30k, proof in this very thread.
>>13107955peckers got 31k
>>13107956It's not like Cover and Anykara could do anything about that, international shipping is fucked for every industry.
>>13107869I am a holofag as well but this is kinda ridiculous.Are you baiting? (you got me)EN 3D Prediction>Gura 160k-220k>Calli 120k-150k>Ame 80k-110k>Ina 80k-100k>Kiara 75k-90kID 3D Prediction>Iofi 30k-40k>Risu 30k-40k>Moona 60k-80k
>>13108002>>13108012Sorry I look at the wrong page.
>>13107869>>13108046baits aside, how expensive is buying the rights to sing some english songs on stream?
>>13107998Gura is a better singer and Kiara a better dancer than most of the nip holos
>>13107961Not too bad, but not that impressive. Might reach 30k, but I'll bet 25k.
>>13106128>>13106166>>13107903>>13106266Stop trying to make "Silverboy" happen. It's cringy how you people are trying to meme it into existance by sheer repetition. Holobronies may seethe and cope but Kuzuha will ALWAYS be the KING
>>13107923You dont need to be as successful as gen 3 to be in holofes
>>13108178all of them need to be not only two
Why do people here prefer median peak over average peak?
>>13108187I will now use silverboy just to spite you
>>13108166depends on the song, they got the perms for the portal song easily but country roads was appearently a nightmare
>>13108187suck that silver cock more kuzukek
>>13108241how about "will always love you"?, Moona needs to sing that song for her 3D debut
>>13108237Harder to influence with outliers
>>13108178Gura would die singing while dancing with her fatass towed and kiara is a gravure model that doesnt need any skills
>>13108237Do you know the first thing about statistics? Averages are greatly skewed by outliers like lives or other events, medians tend to be more stable and more representative of the actual average on a normal day.
why the fuck are you people talking about? you don't need to be successful at all to appear on holofes. you just need time since barring people from appearing due to their metrics is the fastest way to destroy unity, Hololive's entire schtick.
>>13108202You don't but leaving out their most successful gen while allowing less popular newbies to participate is retarded.>>13108219All of them already are, watch streams retard.
Silverboy just makes me think of silver surfer with Kuzuha hair
>>13108187who cares? ghoul king or king of faggots is the same shit
>>13108241Lol
>>13108269I see>>13108277I didn't consider outliers and it's been quite a while since I had to deal with statistics in any real manner. Thanks
>>13108299just go back to tokyo ghoul
I do wonder how they plan for their 3D since its full gens with presumably limited stay for the ENs and IDs. Would they go for 1 day each like gen 5? How about 3D relay, has that ever been done? Just do it all on the main channel?
>>13108286But gen 3 had been in every holofes anon, still holoen and id have to wait in line after gen 5
>>13108187Kuzuha's Vampire cover1st hour: 145k2nd hour: 245k (+100k)3rd hour: 515k (+270k)4th hour: 647k (+132k)5th hour: 740k (+93k)6th hour: 822k (+82k)7th hour: 890k (+68k)8th hour: 936k (+46k)8h20m: 948k (+12k) (600 views/min; -21%)8h40m: 957k (+9k) (450 views/min; -25%)9h00m: 964k (+7k) (350 views/min; -22%)9h20m: 970k (+6k) (300 views/min; -14%)9h40m: 976.9k (+6.9k) (345 views/min; +15%)10h00m: 981.1k (+4.2k) (210 views/min;-39%)10h20m: 984.5k (+3.4k) (170 views/min;-19%)10h40m: 987.6k (+3.1k) (155 views/min;-9%)11h00m: 990.9k (+3.3k) (165 views/min;+3%)11h20m: 994.9k (+4.0k) (200 views/min;+17%)11h30m: 997.0k (+2.1k) (210 views/min;+5%)Hours to 1 million viewsKuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44hm @ 210 view/minuteGura - Reflect -> 10h29minCaligula -> King 11h36m
>>13108286Idol reps isnt as easy as taking picture or singing in front of a camers
>>13108326Just do anything related to Ayame's number, you will understand lol
I have a gut feeling that depending on how long Haato stalls whatever is the point of her stream, she might take the gold.
>>13108334Mori want her 3D debut to be like Suisei's 3D debut so relay might be impossible.
>>13108347No they don't, the only reason for Cover to leave out EN and put gen 5 in is if they want holofes 3 to have less viewers than holofes 2.
>>13108286are they dancing on stream retard? they won't be in this year's fes anyway
>>13107070dude should have forced them to use alphabet
>>13108187Silvers in October:>2021-10-01 :: 37,765 :: Pekora (Hololive)>2021-10-02 :: 40,900 :: Pekora (Hololive)>2021-10-03 :: 39,146 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-10-04 :: 35,335 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-10-05 :: 32,361 :: Pekora (Hololive)>2021-10-06 :: 33,038 :: Subaru (Hololive)>2021-10-07 :: 33,716 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-10-08 :: 26,119 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-10-09 :: 32,988 :: Gura (Hololive)>2021-10-10 :: 35,593 :: Uruha (VSPO)>2021-10-11 :: 28,351 :: Pekora (Hololive)>2021-10-12 :: 28,844 :: Watame (Hololive)>2021-10-13 :: 35,412 :: Miko (Hololive)>2021-10-14 :: 28,427 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-10-15 :: 34,186 :: Pekora (Hololive)>2021-10-16 :: 24,471 :: kson (Indie)>2021-10-17 :: 29,811 :: Botan (Hololive)>2021-10-18 :: 33,320 :: Rushia (Hololive)>2021-10-19 :: 26,822 :: IRyS (Hololive)>2021-10-20 :: 23,152 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-10-21 :: 42,514 :: Suisei (Hololive)>2021-10-22 :: 25,875 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-10-23 :: 43,008 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-10-24 :: 51,479 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-10-25 :: 27,907 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-10-26 :: 28,273 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-10-27 :: 23,336 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-10-28 :: 34,590 :: Mio (Hololive)>2021-10-29 :: 22,759 :: Gura (Hololive)>2021-10-30 :: 28,062 :: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>2021-10-31 :: 57,549 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>13x :: Kuzuha>5x :: Pekora>2x :: Gura>1x :: Watame, IRyS, Nijisanji, kson, Rushia, Subaru, Suisei, Uruha, Miko, Botan, Mio
>>13108046>EN 3D Prediction>Gura 160k-220kGura new outfit got 194k, her 3D would be at least 250k
>>13108509Silverboy
>>13108509start donating ARS to him since he's made out of silver
>>13108522this is hololive not nijisanji, 3ds get less views than new outfits
>>13108459Should have known that you were gen5 schizo
>>13108556any data from previous chuba about that?
>>13108556This is 3D debut
It's schizo shit so Haato is taking gold today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg_74n-6ke8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg_74n-6ke8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg_74n-6ke8Chammer starting
>>13108266not a chance. Did you know that Whitney Houston's song is a cover from Dolly Parton. good luck with this.
>>13108784I hate west music industry so much
>>13108740>blew her load in the first 5 minutesthere go the numbers
Freaking Haachama dropped the bomb right of the bat.
>>13108712nah she dropped the announcement immediately so peak is gone
Told ya it's her birthdayalso topkek
>>13108740Nevermind, its her birthday3D streamHAACHAMA WHAT THE FUCK
>>13108509>>13108373>>13108187Silverboy...
AND SHE'S FUCKIN ENDING!!!!WTF
11/28 Haachama 3D BD?
Wrong date, it's the 18th
>>1310890918, she got the date wrong
Well, that was very Haachama.
>>13108909On 11/18 actually
>>13108860>>13108925chammers...will she invite matsuri
Another Gold for Queen Usada
>>13108437Not even medians can fix Ayame's distortion. With her every stream is essentially an outlier since she has no "normal" but fans still act as if she does. She's the numberfag's greatest paradox.
So Peko takes today, and Haachama "might" take 11/18When is the new MarineRushia off collab date ?
>>13108987I hope it's on bora graduation day
>>13108987Rushia said that she's ogey so prob tmrhttps://twitter.com/uruharushia/status/1460535082490339328
>>13108987Not scheduled yet, might never be scheduled knowing them
>>13109080just because she's alright doesnt mean its tomorrow, marine's schedule is usually packed as fuck
>>13108987Rescheduling offcollab is hard so maybe not tomorrow.
If she could hold it for 2 more mins this would get to 20k, 10 more mins and she might take the gold...
>>1310911940K if the beard guy actually appears on stream.
>>13108187>silverboyeven his brethren says so
>>13108187kek, fighting it will only make it stick harder>Silver King
Pekora is at a point where I don't think a regular stream can reach her anymore
>>13108237>Why do people here prefer median peak over average peak?Median is a way to say>half the streams will be above this numberWhich for a measurement like this is better than>adding all peaks and dividing by the number of streamsto give you a idea of the strength of a streamer
When is Towa playing with Pekora again?
>>13108866How fucking new?
>>13109279When Pekora can't find any other
>>13109231Baton pass from Aqua, only difference Pekora is the perfect one, absolutely no longer give a fuck about niggas
Haachama is just built different
We're going over 700 again with 120 ips and minimal retarded. Who the fuck are you all? Even ENSchizo, Gen5Schizo or Kuzufag is quiet today. We actually had discussions today?
>>13109311btw, Haachama's waiting room (even from a day away) regularly has a higher CCV than a segment of NijiEN streams.>just saying
>>13109321Here's a better question.>Why are you complaining?
>>13109321You have to add Fallenshadow to the list now and all of them showed up in this thread.
>>13109321slow day today
>>13109321>120shit, I didn't notice. uneventful day and thread was so slow I thought it's just the regulars
>>13106830 I LITERALLY FYCKING CALLED IT YOU FUCKING BASTARDS I WIN MY WIN. WIIIINNNN>>12959177
>>13109321The board is really slow today for some reason, and it's not like they haven't been baiting in the catalogue
>>13109279Pekora said last week that pebot + 1 member(marine most lieky) will have collab this week.
>>13109311Haachama dwarf vs Mukiroze when?
>>13109075don't be like that anon, Bora will become a holo in a couple months after all
>>13109301Also idol reps made aqua weaker to streaming while it just made the bunny more efficient with bigger ass
>>13109399Blessed, confirmed gold or will niji have a big event this week?
>>13109415>it just made the bunny more efficient with bigger assAnd firmer thighs! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ5MU6f3tq8
>>13109399Please be tf2 or visceral cleanup
>>13109415Nerf Pegora. Imagine streaming and actually getting energy from doing so.
Kanatan doing a Twitter Space now during her triphttps://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1460614501854691329?s=20
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!>Unbraided hair Pekora is too powerful!
>>13109416Never seen pekotowabotan get gold due to split pov unless if it's a non fps might have a shot
So, since it's a slow day and in order to avoid the usual EN vs JP timeloop, I propose something else.The /vt/ League 2 was announced, and we could probably field a pretty decent team. I can't manage for shit but I am good at blender and 3d models that I can do >for free for the anon that wants to manage. We would just need a bunch of players based on the thread memes
Pekora hair unbraiding stream when?
>>13109514Will Silverboy become our main guy?
>>13109514Wait we can field a team for /numbers/? Do we even have enough memes to fill out a roster?
>>13109321>Even ENSchizo, Gen5Schizosaw some posts by them but it didnt get full on derailed so thats nice
>>13109514What the fuck is the /vt/ League
Also pekora said gen 3 will have collab.
>>13109514We don't have that many memes here, even then, most are dead. What's left now is silverboy and that's a niji meme.
>>13109514You can use the royaltty as some uncontroversial memes>king>emperor>sultan>queenYou can use some of the more obscure memes too>unbraided hair Pekora
>>13109626Silverboy, nijicoep, sour grapes, kneelposting, and that's about it as far as I can recall.
>>13109548He would had the most assist everytime
>>13109645>King>sultanWe don't use those terms anymore, it's silverboy and the oil boy now
>>13109645>>13109648Coco gonzales
>>13109593Please don't be multi-pov and please be on Marine or Peko Ch for max numbers.>In Pebot collab, Botan and Towa should only be the one who have POVs since their usual game is FPS>Free Portion of Gen3 Concert should be in Peko's Channel for an easy 60k+
>>13109648HOW CAN YOU FORGET THIS ONE!
>>13109514Players :>T-Trickle-Down>S-Slow and Steady >Deadsub>Gold of the Day>Bronze King>Grudgeposter>EN Culling CCV>CCV doesn't matter>Susan fix your shit
>>13109685>>13109693>>13109648Don't forget ILLEGAL VIEWS FUNNELING and Box push
>>13109648Is I L L E G A L ours?
>>13109705Funny how half of these are just nijicopes
>>13109674>oil boy nowperfect, it slips
>this thread>no meaningful & memorable memes>Yet one of the highest posters in /vt/
>>13109731100%. Did you see it anywhere else?
>>13109762I don't go to any other thread so I wasn't sure.
>>13109752We actually talk about the thread topic here rather than circlejerk ourselves and shoot the shit
>>13109762due to coof restriction, we don't go anywhere else anon
If we are really going through with this Midgetposting should probably make it in somehow
>>13109705ayame's october numbersmel's triumph over kuzuha
>>13109829KEK, 100% needs a midget or two in the roster
>>13109687multi-pov would be much better for shilling their live since regulars of each member that cant be asked to go to another channel can be reached
>>13109710and>Big event overlapperBasically just a fusion of Iofi & Risu
With the cancelled Myth 3D, is it even worth it at this point to keep HoloEN? They're wasting money and resources.
. . .
I don't have the pic on me right now but that one image with Millie wearing Chartanon's chart as a hat needs to make it in as one of the players
>>13109584KingQueenSultanEmperorOjouSlow and SteadyBox PusherManjisanjiCCVVods
>>13109926yeah that was a good one
Lamy surely needs some nerfing
Kingslayer MikoTrue Vampire Mel
>>13109956Wamy is rich
>>13109926Here
>>13110023Yep, that's the one.We could call it chartanon