Holostar and Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Holostar more often collab with Vtuber from other company/indies than Hololive (Mainly JP branch)?

I've seen more Holostars collab with other vtubers from different company and indies for few months now. Astel recent apex stream are able to collab with Matsuri and Choco, but I heard from people who follow him about he (Astel) did tell the higher-ups to let him be with them to show that their collab "will work", and the word I just quoted could probably be meant as "Holostar x HololiveJP collab will be fine".

This led me to question, "Why does Holostar collab more with other people outside HololiveJP?" I'm focusing on Hololive JP branch mind you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
>Why does Holostar collab more with other people outside HololiveJP?
Dumb idol shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246 I'll bite
Collabing is for mutual benefit, Holostars has nothing to contribute to Hololive, and Hololive has nothing to gain, only loses. That's why they collab more with people similar in size.
Hololive Jp is cover's golden goose. Hololive and Holostars also have different management. There's no way Hololive and their management will let their viewers bleed into Holostars. Low tier Holos like HoloID, Choco, roboco, are allowed to collab with them. Also : unicorn Schizos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
learn english seamonkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
Because hanging out with them is unironically safer.
Any joke between them and non-holo vtubers won't result in schizos breathing down their necks for weeks
Compare the reaction between the multiple streams mentioning that "Roberu fucked all of Animare/his collab partners" vs the shill stream with comet and friend
Mind you that Haneru also has her own gachikoi yet she and her fanbase have no problem with perpetuating the cumrag joke

[Anonymous No.]

>Roberu has an im@s presentation with Mito at a studio and eat bento together with the co-hosts
>Nothing happens
>Roberu has a shill im@s stream with FBK and Suisei that's mostly just him talking about the lore
>Endless falseflagging and chimping out
Why are nijis refer to niggers in here again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763749
hotdog burger, baseball fat mcdonalds...
burger burger hotdog?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
Because Homostars don't deserve the attention and they have nothing to give to Hololive.

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>>12763246
They don't want to be seen as leeches, and that's why they don't ask for collabs with Hololive. The collab request must come from the girls, and most Holos will never want to collab with Holostars because that would cost them their paypigs. Collabing with Holostars just isn't very beneficial for Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12764195
>>12764235
touch grass, dilate, have sex, cope, incel

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>>12763246
>>12764275

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>>12763715
>>12763829
>>12764235
So the hololive girls are greedy and lack any sense of empathy

[Anonymous No.]

>>12765599
Yes, that is why Hololive is hated here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12765599
Yes and you should be happy that Homostars don't have to have anything to do with such people. Let the boys be pure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12765599
money > empathy

[Anonymous No.]

Why do homofans always want to leech onto hololive?
The truth is homostar is gay and boring, despite the fact that they benefited a huge exposition from the main branch they still achieved low views. But hey still persisted at being advertised as some "male idol" shit, just stop it's gross, only fags watch that, just turn them into regular male twitch streamer and you will get same nijisanji male views level.
Their failure is well deserved.

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>>12765917
So they're greedy assholes who would rather see Aruran starve to death and sleep in the floor than help him

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>>12765599
>>12766026
Get a job.

[Anonymous No.]

False flagging thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>12765925
Beggars and saviorfags aren't fans. They don't even care about Holostars to watch streams.

[Anonymous No.]

The answer is so simple a monkey could figure it out: there's only a few holostars, but a fuckton of holos. Holos could collab 1:1 with each other and literally never exhaust their fanbase's interest in pairings, they have a very diverse pool of choices.

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>>12765925
Homofans(in direct contrast to homos themselves) are in a constant state of "j-just 20 more collabs with Pekora and Gura and theyll be just as popular!". This is fundamentally false, but it's also the strongest shield they have against admitting people just aren't that interested in the male chuubas (especially EOPs)

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>>12766026
He can get a job you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>12766324
>just aren't that interested in the male chuubas
Kuzuha is the most popular vtuber and several of the homos are just as good as him, the stars just need exposure

[Anonymous No.]

>>12766026
Holostars still do more money than your average worker

[Anonymous No.]

>>12766562
Not after the brutal Cover cuts

[Anonymous No.]

>>12766527
>m-muh exposure
Yagoo already wasted so much money on your useless branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12766527
Kuzuha didn't get there because of handouts, get a grip. People know who the homos are, they just don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12766645
I wouldn't even say he did waste any money, pretty sure homos are net contributors. The seethe homofans have isn't about them starving (which none of them are), but not being as big as the holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12766685
>pretty sure homos are net contributors
After 1.5-2 years. Yeah, Yagoo wasted his money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12766645
>Kuzuha didn't get there because of handouts
He did retard, he was allowed to collab with everyone in Nijisanji from day 1 unlike the holostars who can only collab with very few holos, don't get invited to the same events and are constantly left out of shit

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>>12766838
Kuzuha does not do 1 on 1 collabs with girls unless it's people he's friends with, and there is literally nothing stopping Holostars from collabing with people.. oh wait they already do that. Musicians, Apexfags, comedy show hosts, going to each others houses, collabing with Nijisanji and 774, their own tournaments, fucking VSaikyou, which is bigger and more well known than any in-house Minecraft event... As well as collabing with Holo girls like you pretend doesn't happen.
Just kill yourselves, none of you beggars even watch Holostars so it makes everyone hate the boys due to falseflagging.

[Anonymous No.]

Can we stop having this same thread literally every single day?

[Anonymous No.]

>m-muh exposure
> Yagoo already wasted so much money on your useless branch.

[Anonymous No.]

Homobegger why have you been spamming this board the past week? Go post this shit on Reddit, people would agree with your retarded ass opinions there

[Anonymous No.]

>>12769906
HomoCHADS run this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>12770321
"HomoCHADS" don't even run their own thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12769734
rumao, spamming this and other thread with wojak

[Anonymous No.]

>>12769906
where do you think this comes from?
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/pcjshj/why_does_holostar_more_often_collab_with_vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>12764235
>Leeching from your own company.
Yet when any girl says she's too shy to collab with her senpai fans mobilize to try and make something happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12764905
The Oga drop was because he called after Pekora.

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>>12769906
This reddit?

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>>12773427
>le shyness meymey

[Anonymous No.]

>>12773427
>A lot of JP girls are just shy.
Rumao Rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>12764905
Context?

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>>12763246
>Why does Holostar more often collab with Vtuber from other company/indies than Hololive (Mainly JP branch)?
Following the same formula from their senpai, A SUPER LEECHER BEFORE GETTING THAT LUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
Astel will save the holostars

[Anonymous No.]

>>12773427
kek

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>>12773427
lmao these people who believe "oh the girls are just shy that's why they wont collab" are more delusional than the beggars. but I guess that's what they have to tell each other on reddit because the truth will get downboated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
The girls are boring as fuck they wouldn't know how to make good use of the bother either way, when the holostars are on top of the industry (they will at their current growth rate) it will be the girls sucking their dicks for collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>12792295
Not this decade though. Maybe it would be the case if Holsostars EN was released

[Anonymous No.]

>>12792295
Sour grapes

[Anonymous No.]

>>12792295
The delusion is real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12766026
Based if true

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>>12766527
Yeah as if Haneru and Inuyama aren't enough exposure. Ofc they would only collab with Roberu, the rest are boring with maybe Astel and Rikka as exception

[Anonymous No.]

>>12770321
Post again when you when mods let you run two generals at once and let both pass bump limit fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
I think one reason is because the female members of Hololive are extremely successful, so they want to avoid a situation where it looks like the male members are "piggybacking" off the female members' popularity just because they're under the same agency.

Now, most English speaking fans would argue that this shouldn't be an issue in the first place, and I agree with that. But I think it's important to recognize that there are still large groups of fans and communities online that can be really toxic about this sort of thing.

Also, like other people mentioned, some of the female members have mentioned they're not confident with interacting with men - although I do think that's really up to a case by case basis. After all, if someone doesn't want to collab with someone, it's entirely up to them to decide that. So I wouldn't think of that as a real answer to your question.

Other than that, I think Hololive/Cover tends to be a little conservative in terms of their policies. While it can be frustrating as a fan, I do think they do have their reasons for doing things that way (which is an entirely separate discussion by itself).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12769906
>500k member in sub
>5k upvoted on Homos posts
>Can't even get 10k on 3D reveals except Roberu
>Kira's graduation thread is literally filled with "I dont watch him but I wish him best luck"
Not even Reddit saviourfags care about them lols

[Anonymous No.]

>>12792295
Hey this is what you said last year!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12773427
I can the imagine his meltdown when he ever finds out about Miko's past collabs with males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
some are uncomfortable interacting with them for personal reasons.

the bigger reason is that idol culture bs that the industry and fans put on them

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801406
Time to learn that homofags aren't the redditors, then, see
>>12773427

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>>12763246
What's so bad about it? Why do beggars want the Stars to collab with holowhores so much instead of with the members of greater JP vtuber community? Why do beggars think so highly of holofags that you think they'd "check out" the Stars given exposure?
For being supposedly "homo fans" the beggars sure think so highly of holos and holofans that they think external collabs don't count over the supposedly much more interesting holo streams.

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>>12801621
Shut up about idol culture you ignorant dick. Idols can interact with men just fine, no one is demanding that the holos have sex with the homos on screen. This weird seperation comes from anime franchises where there are no male characters at all and everyone acts like males don't exist, not idol culture

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
They don't, you're just a retarded EOP who doesn't realise a lot of the non-holo collabs are done on the others channels.
There's even been 3D collabs, see Patra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rJ1h0XfS54
Simple truth is also that the homos are generally just less talented to hold up streams by themselves.
This collab obsession is dumb I like talents for who they themselves are not other people, it really does come of as begging stop using fujobait designs and behaviour and you might get more male fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801738
I don't want them to have exposure nor do I care about the numbers. I want them to be recognized as Hololive members as much as AZKI or Anya are.
>They're not, though.
They should be (or not). The fact that their position is still debatable today is my biggest problem with Holostars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801743
>Why are 2D idols acting like 2D idols
You are the one who's ignorant, many act exactly like he's described and given similar reasons.

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>>12802029

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>>12802053
Sorry, my problem is that many retards conflate 2d idols with actual 3d ones, when they are pretty different

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>>12802029
>I want them to be something they're not
Why?
>I don't want them to have exposure
It sounds like you do.

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>>12765599
>So the hololive girls are greedy and lack any sense of empathy
Yes, this is true. Aside from rare exceptions like Ollie, Hololive doesn't share its popularity, its members only try to take popularity from others and keep it for themselves. On the other hand, Nijisanji members will collab with people much less popular than them because they want to make friends and form connections with everybody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802029
Like, why do Hololive girls keep calling them "senpai" if they're unrelated?
At the same time, there are many things pointing out to that being the case.
>>12802156
underage

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>>12802231
It's easier to explain.
Hololive = females
Nijisanji = males + a couple females
historically males are known to be kinder and more empathetic and look out for others compared to women.
So all the greed of Hololive is because all of them are females.
Whereas Nijisanji is mostly males so you see those males reaching out and trying to help lesser vtubers but you don't see their women doing the same as they are less known.
It's simple biology, not the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802029
There is no debate. They are part of "Hololive Production", which was formed months after Holostars, but not the Hololive group which is female-only.
Cover made that very clear with the new website.
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/talents
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000492.000030268.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/peajby/grand_open_of_allfemale_vtuber_group_hololive/
Maybe they should've used a better name like "Cover Production" instead so it would be less confusing. But then people would care even less about the Homos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802565
When people refer to The Republic of Ireland, they just call it "Ireland". Similarly, the Hololive subreddit includes Holostars despite not having the word "production" in the title, and neither should the fans care about those semantics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802793
But we're literally arguing about semantics here. And the Hololive reddit also clearly states that it's for Hololive Production. They could call it r/whatever it doesn't matter.
Imagine using the name of subreddit as the argument for this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802071
This picture is funny because a bunch of beggars always ask the artist why he doesn't add the Holostars and he gives some half assed response about how he doesn't know them so he wont draw them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803099
Kek, so basically he watches streams from the entirely Hololive, but somehoe Holostars is unknown... Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803099
Extremely based

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802248
>underage
What?
Different branches have different names, I think you're the only fag i've seen really give a shit. Not that it effects anything, unless as I suggested you want more exposure for them by leeching off the girls promos.

>>12802793
>Ireland
Hell, it's usually only called "the south" here.

>>12803099
Nice. Probably a good few similar cases, people just don't care for fujobait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803038
They could've easily called it r/hololiveproductions, or even r/cover.
My point is that Holostars are often grouped in with things simply titled "hololive".

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>>12803099
>beggars
Imagine including all of HoloJP BUT gen 1. I cannot give less of a crap about Mel or Matsuri, but I don't think being bothered by that senseless exclusion to be "begging".

[Anonymous No.]

>>12792295
Kek not even homofags think of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802565
>https://hololive.hololivepro.com/talents
The EN and ID branches are excluded from "hololive" too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803988
It's the Hololive website and the Holostars don't appear on the website at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803834
hololive as in short for hololive productions but hololive is still separate from them. yeah it sounds weird but that's how it works
also Cover didn't even make that reddit, they just took over a fanmade one because it was the most popular one
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/e5zrcn/hololive_has_been_created/

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803099
kek, the author acts just like most of the girls. Based as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802565
That website and everything about it made homobeggars run wild for a few days, gave me a good chuckle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804268
You're avoiding what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804268
>called hololivepro
>still no holostars
>sumaru indie company
What about this one?
https://en.hololive.tv/member

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805258
>old website
Get in time, grandpa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805127
Avoiding what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805327
It's still official. And it is one of the reasons why Holostars status is ambiguous.
>>12805357
>pic related
"Hololive" only includes JP. And without AZKI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805450
And? They still bear hololive in their name, unlike homos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805450
>ambiguous
About what? They're part of holopro, not the all female branches who bear hololive in their name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805500
AZKI

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>>12805531
>About what? They're part of holopro
Can you find them on the website? Also, "hololive" pro.

[Anonymous No.]

The fact that we keep going back and forth about this is what I call "ambiguity". You don't see me arguing that annoying orange is part of Hololive now, do you?
I am not convinced that Holostars are part of Hololive, but I am not convinced of the opposite either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
I want to know how things could have been if homos started complaining about the segregation instead of shutting up like pussies

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805626
hololive INoNaKa branch, if you really want to push it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805829
Fired, because the girls make more money than them. Or stabbed in the middle of the night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805880
At that time girls were literally whos compared to now anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805993
They still made more money than holostars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805838
No such thing.

[Anonymous No.]

azki is part of gen0. who said that? sora, miko and roboco

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806127
And many of the girls call Holostars members "senpai".

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806127
She is officially still from INNK music, her status as gen 0 is pretty unofficial unlike Suisei. Basically she is getting rescued by the girls who treat her as gen 0. That's the difference between her and Stars, they will never care about them

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806127
we're not talking about what the girls think

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806244
>>12806354
>>12806427
don't know mate, ask them, not me, i never hear them saying that holostars are part of hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806047
Then the top 10 superchats should segregate low sub-superchat holos and they wouldn't be able to conplain...
Tell me more, jew

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806544
Neither I, that's why I'm saying there are a difference. Most Hologirls will rescue AzKi from irrelevance but won't even glance at stars.

[Anonymous No.]

>another day, another bait thread
op's mood rn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5lSeYd_riw

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806747
because saving azki gives them positive response only, i would do the same if i was in their position

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806577
Why? You're moving the goalpost here, low sub-superchat holos don't want to change anything. Unlike holostars in that anon what if scenario.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807111
Low Holos were already included meanwhile stars got attacked since their first day. If anything he moved the goalpost first from complaining about segregation to money, I just replied in consequence moving even more the goalpost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806577
He told you what would happen, not argue about what is the right thing to do.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to fuck Baelz till her pussy turns into a waterfall of cum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807338
>included
On what?
You asked, I answered it, and now you're mad about something you made up in your head, Jesus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807395
His vision is pretty unrealistic if he adds the "stabbed" in their narrative. Idk if fired, honestly being still a small company wouldn't bring a pretty good image for them doing that, and the only fired Holo was Chris because the sex scandal. So there is a possibility but a pretty small one

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807519
rrat sex

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>>12807565
I'm not mad lol. In including i was referring that they were already part of the group, stars weren't. My argument was about raising their voices about segregation, never mentioned money but that anon included it because he wanted to. The goalpost moving was sarcasm...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807597
>pretty unrealistic
Did you miss the news about a faggot who dressed up like a joker and stabbed random people? Mayu Tomita, Kyoani arson, thousands other stalking cases?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805450
It's not ambiguous. You're just being pedantic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805258
That's the Hololive Production website.
Literally says it in big fat text when you open the main page
https://www.hololive.tv/

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807799
I heard about that, but not about his motivations more than him wanting to be executed by police. So are you trying to tell me that schizos would kill them for wanting to be treated as equals and Cover would do nothing? That's the unrealistic part, not about them having schizos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807887
>>12805258
They even explained the difference between the websites in the official post here

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807772
>they were already part of the group
Because they have the same thing, a cunt.
>My argument was about raising their voices about segregation, never mentioned money but that anon included it because he wanted to.
It's all about money, it's a corporation.
>>12807995
>So are you trying to tell me that schizos would kill them for wanting to be treated as equals
Yes. Schizos don't need a good reason to attack someone.
>Cover would do nothing?
Before random schizo attack? Termination, fired, again because all of this shit is about money.
After random schizo attack? Formal apology letter, maybe bankruptcy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805829
They'd get fired for breaching contract of course. Fortunately the Stars were not that retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807814
>hololive.tv
>not holopro.tv
You don't call Germany "The Federal Republic of Germany".

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>>12808219
Not an argument.
Take it up with Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808212
Do you have contracts there to tell me in which point is it written?

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>>12808186
It's funny how none of the possible outcomes are them accepting their terms even when they are protected by Yagoo lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808541
Because it's a retarded take and Yagoo is a dumb faggot, but he's not that dumb.

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>>12805993
And at the time Miyabi was lucky to have 50 people watching him.
Meanwhile even the least popular girls like Aki had several hundreds on average. With the majority of Hololive already well over a thousand or multiple thousands.

[Anonymous No.]

>Another day, another exhibition on why everyone hates homobeggars

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>>12808629
Their fate is sealed them, honestly I would prefer to graduate them instead of keeping them isolated from their co-workers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808749
Again, there's no isolation just preferences.

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>>12805829
>>12807772
>>12808749
Why the fuck would they do that? Do you really think the first Holostars didn't know that they would be separate from Hololive? When Cover announced Holostars to the public for the first time it already said that they would not be part of Hololive.
The only thing the boys like Miyabi weren't expecting was that despite being separate some schizos would STILL seethe at them and hate them for merely existing when they weren't even touching their girls.
If they complained about being separate for whatever reason that would've just made everything worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>12808699
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809505
meant to quote >>12808699

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809571
Yes, everyone that isn't a homobeggar looks at you with disgust.

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>>12801372
>I think one reason is because the female members of Hololive are extremely successful, so they want to avoid a situation where it looks like the male members are "piggybacking" off the female members' popularity just because they're under the same agency.

Honestly I don't think anyone should be complaining about this considering not being a guy guarantees you 100k subs pre debut in hololive

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>>12801425
Yeah and their subs counts and viewership have triplicated since, the stars have better growth that the girls and by next year Roberu will be at the million

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>>12805626
Azki is both Hololive AND INNK, also she's only in the situation she's in because of legal reason not because Cover hates her and wants to keep her separate. INNK was co owned by upd8 and Cover. Even Azki herself said that she will transfer properly to Hololive once her contract ends like Miko did

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809152
>Holostars didn't know that they would be separate from Hololive?
Astel wants to change that

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
>Why does Holostar more often collab with Vtuber from other company/indies than Hololive (Mainly JP branch)?
The JPs are stuck up cunts

[Anonymous No.]

>>12815686
>Astel wants to change that
Keep trying then, he's a cunt with bigger ego than the moon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763715
>Holostars has nothing to contribute to Hololive
>Male vocals for the cover songs
>Excellent hosting talent like Roberu
>Aruran's Minecraft expertise
>More groups, pairings and ships
>Female viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>12823187
In terms of income, none.

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>>12823187
>Male vocals for the cover songs
towa
>Excellent hosting talent like Roberu
fbk, marine or even mio would suffice
>Aruran's Minecraft expertise
just ask some an en or id to translate thousands videos on youtube that has better idea than your faggot
>More groups, pairings and ships
hetero pairing is shit, go watch nijisanji
>Female viewers
suisei alone has more female viewers than entire homo combined

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>>12823187
Those aren't a lot of very strong arguments dude.
>Male vocals for the cover songs
This one I acgually totally agree with
>Excellent hosting talent like Roberu
They already have excellent hosting talent, and roberu also is put under pressure if he had to host with holomems
>Aruran's Minecraft expertise
I don't know how good he is, but that's really nothing essential
>More groups, pairings and ships
Not really neccessary per se, they're not running low on members to work with and also many hetero ships are bad for business in the long run as can be seen in other places
>Female viewers
Not of any use, besides spending money on the homos. Nijisanji has a lot of female viewers and they don't really spend much on girls, only on boys.
Some of the Holomems are acting like assholes in this situation, but they know where the money's at

[Anonymous No.]

>>12823313
Numbers aren't everything retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>12824469
To many holos, they seemingly are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12824513
That's why everyone hates Hololive, it's just a bunch of greedy whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>12824594
Not everyone. Fubuki is the poster child and she's willing to collab with many different chuubas no matter if they're male or female. Same with some others like Choco Sensei or Suisei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12824594
Everyone hates homobeggars more

[Anonymous No.]

>>12824729
Most of Hololive JP are horrible people a few good exceptions don't make up for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12824469
>>12824594
Then don't join a corporation. Get a job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12825632
>corporation
It's literally just Hololive, every other corpo vtuber group is better and treats their talents male and female humanely

[Anonymous No.]

>>12825661
Good for them treating their talents on equal ground from the start, but for Cover it's hololive first, holostars last. As for most of the girls, money, fame plus girl friends first, holostars none.
Don't like it? Vote with your money. Don't have any money? Go watch something else.

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>>12825793
Good to know that everyone agrees on the Hololive girls being horrible people

[Anonymous No.]

>>12825834
>everyone
Just you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12764905
Disingenuous as fuck

The first peak is when Miko called in and people leaving after she was done. The next peak is when Pekora called in and people leaving after she was done.

Ya know, Pekora and Miko, the two most popular talents in HoloJP, yeah, that Pekora and Miko. Anybody would have seen a decrease after them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12825834
the voice in your head isn't everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>12826004
coco was there, and she didn't make a drop like those homos

[Anonymous No.]

>>12825834
Samefagging isnt everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>12825661
A lot of other corpo vtuber groups don't even have males in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12831041
Technically that includes Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>12831041
But they do collab with males unlike most of Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>12831992
Bet they will stop collabing with males if they can get hololive's numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12832239
Only assholes care about numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>12832288
Sane people cares about numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12831992
Noripro has an "Idol" group which is completely banned from collabing with males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12832350
and they're failure compared to Warabe and the whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>12832457
Warabe leeches of Rushia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12832786
Warabe leeches of Winning son

[Anonymous No.]

>>12832844
She's a leech then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12832883
All women are leeches

[Anonymous No.]

>>12832922
holostars leeched of hololive and couldn't success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12832350
Why she has a group which bans collabs with males when Norio herself is doing collabs with not only males but Holostars too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12832956
They aren't even allowed to collab freely, it's all the fucking low tier failure like Choco and Roboco

[Anonymous No.]

>>12833053
Wow, FBK and Matsuri too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12833108
Matsuri is low tier trash have you seen her viewership? FBK is dead subs queen

[Anonymous No.]

>>12832457
Mishiro is the SC queen

[Anonymous No.]

>>12833184
Wow, what a ungrateful cunt. They become like that after collabing too much with holostars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12833053
More like only the low tier failures can be bothered to collab with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12833214
She's boring as shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>12833285
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>12833053
Looks like you beggars already forgot about the Suisei collab since it didn't help the Homos either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12833017
Because she's not an idol.
There's an idol group and variety group and only the idols can't collab with males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12833750
What exactly makes them Idols? What's the difference with Norio? That's kinda fucked up since the no male interaction is a rule from 30 years ago, nowadays real idols dont do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>12833652
>SPONSORED
No one watches or cares about shillshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>12834102
holocomi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12833912
They get better SC than their contemporaries so it's working. The fact that industry doesn't work that way anymore doesn't mean that people no longer want that service

[Anonymous No.]

>>12833017
Why do you think nips hate Norio in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12834102
>No one watches or cares about shillshit
>the first thing Homobeggar did after that stream is spam the board and general with RobeSui
Sure look like beggars care to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>12835402
Because she shit talked the seiyuu industry and got herself blacklisted

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
Council belongs to the holostars

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
Holostars and Hololive fans are natural enemies

[Anonymous No.]

>>12839266
HOLOSTARS are part of hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>12841234
HOLOSTARS are part of hololive production

[Anonymous No.]

>>12837351
Sana x Oga?
both areBEEG

[Anonymous No.]

>>12841960
Yeah, Oga is wide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
Making connections or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>12841901
Then neither are EN and ID >>12805450

[Anonymous No.]

>>12846018
You're being pedantic, again, they still have hololive in their name. Bet my ass if this one get updated they'll include IRyS and Council.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ0sJQC8qkE

[Anonymous No.]

>>12847390
They're Hololive productions Holostars that's the full title no matter how much it makes you seethe
Holostars = Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

Too many unicorns

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851875
They're not Hololive no matter how much you cope lol
Cover agrees with me

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
Hololive fans are the worst thing in the entire industry

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851875
Sure bud, keep coping.

[Anonymous No.]

up

[Anonymous No.]

>>12858287
https://en.hololive.tv/member

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
The walls are coming down give it a few more months, by the end of the year there won't be any difference between Holostars and Hololive including numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802053
Actually that kind of mentality isn't just limited on 2d idol, Like in CGDCT anime
It's more of Waifu/purity faggotry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12869261
Read, homobeggar.
>>12807887
>>12808037

[Anonymous No.]

>>12872709
Ultimate cope, since last year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
Hololive kneels to the holostars

[Anonymous No.]

>>12882363
They're afraid, afraid of low number disease.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12882935
Hololive only has numbers, take em away and they left with unfunny girls that can only repeat one jokes ad nauseam

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883181
And holostars are boring and numberless. :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883246
Roberu is legit one of the most charismatic persons in Japanese entertainment currently, Shien is better than most profesional VAs, Astel is one of the best vtuber singers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883344
Still boring, even after thousand shills, none breaks 500k.

[Anonymous No.]

>women are fucking greedy whores!!!! Reeee!!!
>uh hello? Why hololive no collab with holostars?
Are homofags all from /r9k/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763246
See, most of the holowhores are numberfag jews who don't care about the vtuber industry at large. It's not just Holostars, it's indies, it's nijis, it's everyone outside of their little walled garden. Their fans act like that because the girls act like that too. Who else would be so proud about the McDonalds of vtubers? I'm not a homofag but if I was I would be happy that the boys are collabing with indies and small corpos and staying away from the girls and their retarded fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883947
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12884040
>I was I would be happy that the boys are collabing with indies and small corpos and staying away from the girls and their retarded fanbase.
Yet homofags can't stop begging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12884177
The beggars do need to get a life. The girls are so selfish they even talk about being jealous of their viewers watching other girls in the same fucking company as them. No wonder holofags are so hateful and bitchy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883947
Unironically yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883766
>none breaks 500k.
Anon you just proven that hololive only has numbers
>>12883947
True Holostars fans don't want collab with hololive desu. The boys can go all out with hololive members.

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>>12886866
>Anon you just proven that hololive only has numbers
Too lazy to list each holos capability, but homos got none of those, if they're that entertaining, they'll be swimming in those number. The only thing that matters is number anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12887093
>Too lazy to list each holos capability
>The only thing that matters is number anyway.
See, hololive is only about numbers after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>12887613
Good, your fag Astel wouldn't say anything about changing holopro if he doesn't want hololive's number.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12884596
>The girls are so selfish they even talk about being jealous of their viewers watching other girls in the same fucking company as them.
you took baiting and joking too far, they literally funneled each other viewers most of the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>12887768
>astel
Bad choice anon, lots Homofag actually hates him because of his cancerous fans and how he enables them

[Anonymous No.]

>>12823187
>Forced hetero ships
That's gonna end up in a worse Takamori

[Anonymous No.]

>>12887869
It's only one schizo who hates him, he's easily the most popular holostar

[Anonymous No.]

>>12892177
>he's easily the most popular holostar
Only when singing and play apex. Astel views tanked hard when he do something else

[Anonymous No.]

>>12892851
>Only when singing and play apex
That's 90% of his content

[Anonymous No.]

>>12892177
>It's only one schizo who hates him
He's pretty unlikeable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12892957
That's not the point anon, his audience watch astel who sing and play apex not the astel himself. Compared to Robert who can easily get 1k just for hiccupping 99 times or 500 japanese who watch Oga in the middle of the night

[Anonymous No.]

>>12893425
>"Nooo you can't like a vtuber because of his content"
Not even a Homofag bit youre retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>12765599
It's a job for them and outside of girls like Fubuki and Matsuri the newer ones would very much like to keep their income flowing well. These girls know exactly which type of fan donates religiously and they rather keep the paypigs at the expense of some co-workers. If most of this board were in their position they'd probably do the same. Imagine getting a stupid amount of money every month and all you have to do is not collab with women?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12893503
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY'RE BAD PEOPLE, THEY NEED TO COLLAB WITH MY BOYS
Just ignore them. Only jobless faggots think like that or underages, so 90% homofags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12893470
Then why do you watch astel? There are better singer and there are better apex player out there
He'll be in really bad place if perchance cover lost permission for apex and karaoke stream. It happened before you know?
Remember holocaust? Remember when hololive buddy buddy with yostar?

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKYwQBC9OGA
It's pretty depressing hearing them talk about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12893633
Their bait thread can die in just four hours if you sage them early, its probably one or two people