Is she right?

[Anonymous No.]

Well, /vt/? You do have a life outside of watching vtubers, right?

[Anonymous No.]

no
LOL!

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>>12559470
People who have jobs and a life don't watch Noel

[Anonymous No.]

no

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>>12559470
ina said the same, but anons went full schizo on her

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>>12559567
To be fair, Ina was much more rude in the way she expressed this.

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>>12559470
Vtubers have improved me in many ways but I will never work just for money and I will never be taken advantage of.

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>>12559567
Ina jokingly made fun of (some) of them.
Noel is talking out of concern. Whether or not they are sincere or not is not the point.

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>>12559470
>Become vtuber
>Be surprised that people who have nothing worth living for are watching them
I'm a fucking incel neet. I'm never getting a job. I'm leeching the system for neetbux and killing myself once I lose my neetbux. What the fuck do they expect? Most of their viewers are probably people like me who use vtubers to forget that they'll never feel the touch of a woman. If I didn't have my oshi I would snap.

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>>12559616
>berating your most dedicated fans and agreeing that they're "sad"
concern my ass, it's bitch behaviour.

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>>12559567
ina straight up said her fans are a bunch of losers for watching vtubers

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>>12559647
No it isn't. That is merely how you interpret that.

[Anonymous No.]

I have a (low paying) job because I need to eat and pay my bills. The real world can need me all it wants, but that's all I'm ever giving it.

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>>12559567
Noel is actually worried. Ina completely shit on the lonely people watching her even though they're the ones paying her bills. She's an ungrateful whore.

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>>12559546
Can confirm. Popped in here to see who this even was, now I'm off to the bar.

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>>12559702
it is. the most dedicated fans who watch all her streams are the ones sending her the most money, buying merch, concert tickets etc
shouldnt bite the hand that feeds you, comes off as entitled

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>>12559470
I do actually.

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>>12559589
>>12559616
>>12559673
stfu dramafags

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>>12559470
Clip or source stream link?

[Anonymous No.]

>commenter doesn't realize he's talking about himself.
What a sad soul.

>>12559567
JP good. EN bad. That's the logic behind the difference in treatment.

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>>12559791
Seethe and cope fagodachi. Ina is probably getting DP'd right now with condoms she paid for with your money.

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>>12559824
It's true, though.
JP is unimpeachable source of good in the world.
EN is the source of decline and suffering.

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>>12559769
All of this is conjecture from your part. She said she worries about the people that are in her chat all of the time. I think the people that spend time watching her don't all express support in the same way. Perhaps she notices members or just greyfags that always watch her, because realistically that is how they show support. Others could show support by not watching very much, but being membered, sending supas when they watch and buying shit.
The superfan you describe is not at all common, they'd need a cozy job like a teacher.

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>>12559791
>when you can't handle the truth
At least you're a tako and not a... whatever Anya calls her fans. When she made fun of virgins, now that was much worse.

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>>12559567
ina is worried about her fans too but she sucks at expressing herself, she also probably has impostor syndrome

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>>12559735
>they're the ones paying her bills
No, that's the chink gacha company.

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>>12559470
Kishidan won't shut the fuck up about how smart Noel is and then she says something like this. Your entire audience consists of lonely and horny men with nothing to do, why would you bring attention to that?

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>>12559470
Let's just say I didn't even realise that today was pretty much a full day without streams. Though, I contributed to /vt/ sings though, can you say the same?

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>>12559470
Civia said this before all these girls.

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>>12559470
lol Noel hates her fans, she thinks you're all losers, do knights really ?

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>>12560104
chink words doesn't count

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>>12559470
Im neet, and i wouldnt bother going outside anyway since corona

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>>12559997
>Lol you fucking losers do nothing but watch me all day
>now donate money to me, I'm the only EN that won't read your superchats
>I need that money to buy more condoms
Do fagodachis really?

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>>12560233
>loser
I hear that if you say something enough it eventually becomes true, too bad we live in a technological society where people can literally verify quotes with a few clicks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciCa6Y-E-7s&ab_channel=ShiroClipsCh..
Do troons really ?

[Anonymous No.]

Ina was joking and Noel is encouraging people to improve themselves.
>>12559546
Is that why at the handshake event kishidans were /fit/ and well dressed?
>>12559647
Noel encourages her fans to study, stay fit (she encourages fans who bring it up), do kendo (answers questions about it) and generally improve themselves. She does care.
>>12560090
She is encouraging her fans to improve themselves. That's called being a decent person.
>>12560122
Encouraging you to improve yourself = thinking you are a loser?

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>>12560436
he was obviously paraphrasing?
though I guess it's good that you brought out a clip that makes Ina look bad, just because she didn't use the exact word some anon said.

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>>12560104
Who?

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>>12559567
man it is easy to get (You)s over here, huh?

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>>12560517
>AN ACTUAL FUCKING KISHIDAN
AHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD HOLY FUCK
LIKE HOLY SHIT A FUCKING KISHIDAN LOOK AT HIM HAHAHAHAHA

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>>12560611
Who is your oshi? I am guessin Marine or Matuli since they encourage their fans to be pathetic.

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>>12560596
Those idiots will be sorry when the great (You) recession hits

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>>12559589
>>12559616
>>12559673
Shut up shut the fuck up dramafrogs

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>>12560233
>>12560122
trying this hard to fit in

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>>12559470
Shut up Noel! Show boob!

[Anonymous No.]

Do vtubers not realise that they only have an audience because losers exist?

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>>12560919
Encouraging people to improve themselves is a bad thing?

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>>12560919
NEETs aren't people. The important fans are the salarymen that have no one to come home to. They contribute to society but are missing something, vtubers help provide that.
Believe it or not, not every fan spends 18 hours a day watching vtubers.

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>>12560980
No, but Noel not having one of her tits in my mouth all times is.

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>>12560596
Takodachis need to learn to ignore. Every EN fanbase needs to, deadbeats are in the right path it seems.

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>>12559470
Vtubers are the only way I can enjoy females, I know they play a character but it's the only way I'd care about the opposite gender.

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>>12561030
Fair enough

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>>12561002
Do you really think someone can escape being a loser just by having a job?

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>>12561097
Having a job is a lot better than being a subhuman NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12561097
You can still be a loser with a job, but see >>12561170. It's not comparable.

[Anonymous No.]

Noel is a whore

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>>12559546
i have a job and a life
it's not the most exciting life, but it's there
i watch noel

[Anonymous No.]

>>12561055
>t. deadbeatoff
You guys were okay post TT interview but now that Cali has settled down you've gotten soft, literally the same shit that works for every other fanbase still applies and especially to deadbeats

[Anonymous No.]

Nah, some people just aren't made to be successful. Every time I step outside I think, damn I'm the worst guy here. My clothes suck, my proportions are weird, I'm out of shape, and I have no friends. You can fix some of this stuff but honestly to a degree I believe it's something you're born into.

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>>12561002
She's talking about both NEETs and salarymen who have nothing but her in their lives. She is the only factor in her statement. Asking if they have jobs is just asking if they have "literally anything else" to do.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone link the goddamn clip already?

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>>12561219
>She's talking about both NEETs and salarymen who have nothing but her in their lives.
That is still encouraging them to improve themselves. Even if you are in a real relationship, your girlfriend and your job shouldn't be the only things going on in your life.

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>>12561278
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

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>>12561214
Success and not being a failure are two different things. Anyone above 5’6 can have friends and a job without that much effort

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>>12561327
You said
>>12560919
>Do vtubers not realise that they only have an audience because losers exist?
The whole point is that encouraging people to improve themselves is not looking down on them.

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>>12561398
That wasn't me even though I agree with that sentiment. And again, that argument has nothing to do with that statement.

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>>12561348
DYRBI?

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>How dare she encourage her fans to improve themselves and be happier
She was also a shut-in, she is sympathizing with you.

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>>12561490
>only tall attractive people have jobs and friends

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>>12561497
Fortunately for her, she has massive tits to whore herself out with for money.

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>>12561497
Noel is not in any way equal to her average viewer.

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>>12561348
>Anyone above 5’6 can have friends and a job without that much effort
Well, mental illness is also a factor. The mentally ill are all over the web because irl has nothing to offer them

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>>12561574
What does that have to do with encouraging her fans to get out into the world?
>>12561669
She was also isolated and shut herself off from the world.

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>>12561700
>muh mental illness
Making friends will improve that.

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>>12559470
Source?

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>>12561219
>who have nothing but her in their lives.
She needs to get over herself. I have Flare and Watame too.

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>>12561711
Ah okay, since Noel and I are apparently equal in every respect I'll just start streaming on NND, use my huge tits and nice voice to become popular, then start my own ASMR Youtube channel, get picked up by Hololive because of said Youtube channel, get given an insanely good model that hard buffs me on top of already being well known in the scene and get my happy ending. Since it's just that easy and we have the exact same opportunities afforded to the both of us because we're the exact same in every way, right? That's what you mean, right?

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>>12559470
I had and it was gone long before vtubers.

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>>12561751
Tell that to unironic schizos

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>>12561170
It's not.
I was equally miserabel when i had a job and now, when i don't have one. At least now Im not pissed of because i need to spend time with bunch of fucking retards.

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>>12560691
>Marine
Hey if you're the Kishidan bro, you're better than shitposting against fellow sankisei man. Don't let that one noel anti nijinigger on /hlg/ (who I'm pretty sure is marineschizo) get you to forget the bonds of sankisei

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe I have to hate Noel now

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>>12561170
I got a job for my oshi but I'm still sad all the time when my oshi isn't streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>12561348
Im 5.9, not even bad looking and can pass for mentaly stable but it's impossible to get any.

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>>12561348
Wait I know the obvious about dating but since when have there been significant height-gates for employment and friends...?

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>>12561191
She's MY whore.

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>>12559470
lmao a titty streamer telling others to fix their life. let's not get too uppity shall we?

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>>12561822
>I'll just start streaming on NND, use my huge tits and nice voice to become popular
She first became popular doing Dragon Quest and Chrono Trigger marathon streams when she was underage (which is admittedly why she got attention)
>That's what you mean, right?
No and that is not what she is saying either. What she is saying is that it is worth getting over whatever anxiety and fear you may have when it comes to getting out in the world.
She is saying she shouldn't be the most important person in your life, you should be the most important person in your life.
She berates her fans for skipping work or school to watch her, compare this to Matuli who encourages it.>>12562108
>Hey if you're the Kishidan bro, you're better than shitposting against fellow sankisei man. Don't let that one noel anti nijinigger on /hlg/ (who I'm pretty sure is marineschizo) get you to forget the bonds of sankisei
Nothing against Marine but thats a major difference between Marine and Noel, Marine sees traditional work and school as a chore (probably based on her own experiences) where as Noel is more of a normalfag when it comes to that. I was being overly harsh on Marine, she does encourage her fans to work towards their dreams, which is a good thing.

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If Noel is your oshi and you are in the situation she described, your only option is to get the rope now, right? the only person who you thought validated your existence and kept you going just fucking rejected you, lmao.

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>>12559470
Noel is based, she's always right and giving you good advices.

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>>12559735
I agree, Noel is specifically pointing out the people who are always in her chat in every stream. Those are the most likely candidates who she could say this to and be right. Sometimes your best friend tells you things you don't want to hear, because they care. This seems to be such a case. Ina was just trying to be playful but she took it wayyy too far and the mask slipped a bit. Noel seems more concerned about a select group of hardcore fans.

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>>12559470
>have a gorgeous model
>have a lovely voice
>spending hours a week to stream
>you talk to them about yourself and to them
>it only cost $5 a month to get special status
>WHY DO PEOPLE SPEND THIER TIME WATCHING ME!?
Because you're a very cheap hostess that doesn't require leaving a room and men are very lonely creatures. Hostesses are better since you have one on ones though.

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>>12562530
No the only option is to improve yourself.

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>>12559470
You have the link for this? Can't find this on Youtube

[Anonymous No.]

Noel is somebody who has built themselves up from nothing, poorfag from a single mother, fat, ugly, bullied, etc, and made something of herself (even before the tits).

There is nothing wrong with pic related, they're the best friends.

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>>12562707
I can't find it either. Is it fake?

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>>12562530
3 months ago I had been in the habit for a few years of 1 meal a day, sometimes 0 and snacking on bread. Was 44kg. I know and I dunno, I just didn't enjoy anything I ate.
That Noel, Aki and Lamy collab inspired me to exercise which of course made me hungrier.
I'm 57kg now so im still skinny but not the kind of skinny that has old women looking at you all sad like they want to feed you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12562769
She did it by selling her body. It still counts for something, I guess. Not very respectable though.

[Anonymous No.]

Encourage this, encourage that. How about you encourage noel to suck my dick retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>12562769
But why even bother when this won't change anything.
t.been working on myself for 3 years and everything is ass shitty as was

[Anonymous No.]

>>12562828
Nothing wrong with selling your body. But maybe you shouldn't get high and mighty when you've made it.

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>>12562828
No she did it by getting a degree from an elite college on scholarship since she was dirt poor and working a normal job. The ASMR stuff is just a way to quit that normal job which she still worked for 8 months while in Hololive. (Yes, she streamed as both Noel and her roommate and worked a normal job for the first 8 months)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12562879
I don’t even need to encourage her to suck mine, she just does it.

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>>12562597
Ina is just a bad person and is worth our scorn. We all know we are losers(they know too) but there are some things you shouldn't say. I anti Ina with a clean mind and an honest heart. I know she wears a mask but she's a hostess and needs to keep it on. Ina just thinks she's too good and maybe it's true but she doesn't have to be here, in this realm. If she's happier somewhere else with fans that aren't lonely subhumans be a gacha artist 100%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12562769
>poorfag
>single mother, deadbeat dad
>practice kendo, cheerleading, track, judo
>doing STEM degree
>lived independently from her family early which is rare in Japan.
>have a car and know how to drive, which is quite rare again in Japan
Despite her menhera and mood swings, she
>>12562828
She was working OL jobs way before that. You may as well consider seiyuu and actress to be selling bodies as well what with most KR/Sentai's actress have gravure career before and after filming toku and a bunch of famous seiyuu like MAO have done equally risque phot shoots as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12562967
>>doing STEM degree
At an elite private college as well.

[Anonymous No.]

The world ended. There's nothing outside of vtubers and it's only going to get worse. The only reason she hadn't realized it is because she's one of the few profiting from it.

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>>12562769
>poorfag
>single mother, deadbeat dad
>practice kendo, cheerleading, track, judo
>doing STEM degree
>lived independently from her family early which is rare in Japan.
>have a car and know how to drive, which is quite rare again in Japan
Despite her menhera and mood swings, she's obviously a prime example of someone doing everything their abilities to make their own life better and a prime example of pulling their own bootstraps with success.
>>12562828
She was working OL jobs way before that. You may as well consider seiyuu and actress to be selling bodies as well what with most KR/Sentai's actress have gravure career before and after filming toku and a bunch of famous seiyuu like MAO have done equally risque phot shoots as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12562967
>You may as well consider seiyuu and actress to be selling bodies as well what with most KR/Sentai's actress have gravure career before and after filming toku and a bunch of famous seiyuu like MAO have done equally risque phot shoots as well.
Well yes, I would define that as selling your body.

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>>12559470
Holy fuck what a bitch, she totaly called her fans creeps. Never trust a titty streamer, dropped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559470
I still have a 'life' outside of watching vtubers like work, however I won't pretend my entire free time alone ISN'T spent thinking about vtubers because it is. I don't see anything wrong with that though. If you replace vtubers with sports or tv or knitting it's all the same. I'm having fun in my free time so who cares if I'm in chats all night.
Does it really matter if I do nothing but work and play? What would change? I am happy and that's all I care about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559982
Thats a low blow if true

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563073
What kind of Mormon-esque environment did you grow up in anon? Posing for photoshoots/video =/= selling your bodies
Is Gigachad also selling his own body by showing off his naked body as well? How about Arnold?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563177
He is likely muslim. remember a lot of this board comes from SEA

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563177
>Is Gigachad also selling his own body by showing off his naked body as well? How about Arnold?
Yes, but not all cases of selling out your body is bad. I think gravure is fine, however doing blowjob ASMR while showing your almost bare ass and tots to the camera is not respectable and is camwhore behavior. And don’t get me wrong, I love it. I’ve spilled countless liters of semen to her roommates ASMR. It’s just best if everyone acknowledges that it’s whorish behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563357
I guess Fubuki is also a whore than for voicing herself getting virtually fucked as fap material.
>blowjob ASMR
Pretty sure she never did that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559567
Ina the heckin wholesome priestess would never say such a thing..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563357
>I think gravure is fine, however doing blowjob ASMR while showing your almost bare ass and tots to the camera is not respectable and is camwhore behavior.
Have you ever watched a gravure IV? What do you think the purpose of them sucking on lolipops or ice creams right next to the mic in a seductive manner is for? or when they move their hands in a jerking motion out of frame? or when they bounce up and down in a cowgirl position with the camera right below them?
These are all topes in mainstream gravure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563306
Nobody is muslim on 4chan except the afghans livin in Netherlands and they dont watch anime.

It's always burgers sperging about sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559470
Fuck off Noel I give 0 shits about your opinion
My oshi approves of me being a neet no life

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563357
I can't believe Wizard is such a whore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWFn2xyFVG4

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563533
Sorry, I don’t watch much gravure and what I have seen has been relatively tame. What you’re describing does certainly fall into whore territory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563357
>And don’t get me wrong, I love it.
You love it but you resent her for doing it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563747
No, I resent her fans for acting like it doesn’t make her a bit of a whore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563793
shut up low T faggot, pretending you came buckets to something that didnt happen.
embarassing

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559627
Um... Based??

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563793
As one of her fans I acknowledge that she is a bit of a whore, but I resent the fact that people assume that is the only reason I watch or that that is the only thing she has to offer or that she doesn't have any other achievements. That is why I argue with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559470
Schizoneets seething rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559470
I don't even watch vtubers I'm just here to shitpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563992
I might have given off an opposite impression, but I actually quite like Noel. It’s just that I’ve seen people condemn western ethots wile giving Noel a free pass and think it’s hypocritical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12564240
Shut up faggot you were caught lying, why the fuck are you pretending to be rational.
She's less of a whore than your mother that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12563793
Probably some some different standards.
Personally even just the fact she doesn't show her face makes it less whorish for me, she's selling the titillation but not 'herself', she's still for (you) first and foremost, unlike say JAV.

Agree with >>12563992 too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559470
noel you are boobs.
you will always be boobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12564280
Your mom is gay

[Anonymous No.]

I just started a remote job a month ago.
I've noticed even though I used to watch vtubers in passing, now I actually pay attention to their schedules and post in their chats, wishing I could talk to them.
I'm worried for myself. This shit is the definition of parasocial. It's truly a replacement for actual relationships for some people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12564240
>It’s just that I’ve seen people condemn western ethots
I am only speaking for myself but I resent western ethots not for what they do but because they do it so fucking badly and they put so little effort in to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12564428
If there is no real, actual relationships then they at least helps with void.
Btw. I can't even form parasocial relationship with vtuber. That's a lost casue

[Anonymous No.]

>>12561170
but what if you're a rich NEET?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559470
Noel would never say this to her viewers. Fake and gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559567
I would go schizo on Noel too if I was Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12564282
>just the fact she doesn't show her face makes it less whorish for me
I don't think her face should affect anyone's judgement when the point is how she shows her body for money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12564812
This is the only place people are even talking about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>12564766
If you can afford to sit on your butt doing nothing, we call that retirement. If the government pays you, you're a NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12564869
All I'm saying is it's not OK when Ina says it and it's not OK when Noel says it. If I was Japanese I would react the same as I did when Ina said it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12565055
In Ina's case it was a badly worded joke, in Noel's case its her being concerned for her fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559470
On the one hand she's objectively addressing the exploitation she's complicit in which is way more honest and morally admirable than the standard here.

But on the other hand she's really being full of shit about it. Like what do you mean "it seems". Why act surprised. You knew when you started that a significant chunk of your audience would be people malfunctional to the point of unemployable mental illness and people giving you money they shouldn't. She's affecting naiveness.

I guess she expected it but felt enough guilt in the moment she wanted to try and like softly ameliorate or restrict the harm she always knew was there. I'm not judging or condemning her at all, a lot of jobs involve contributing to something bad and I'd do something this exploitative for very cheap

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559470
>Pander hard to GFE for that lonely salaryman parasocial relationship bux
>wtf why are you guys spending your time with me like im your gf or something fuckin losers
Why are they like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12565120
>badly worded joke
Sure, it's a badly worded joke when I scream the nigger word at work too, but that doesn't mean I get off scot-free.
>in Noel's case its her being concerned for her fans
And why are you concerned about someone watching vtubers? You are a vtuber you fucking asshole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12565217
women

[Anonymous No.]

>>12565269
Most vtubers really are just egirls behind a mask
I have so much respect for the few who aren't

[Anonymous No.]

>>12565176
Just think about it, people without jobs have unstable income and are unable to reliably donate, along with mental healt issues that might make them unreliable viewers that schizo out. If they have a job and a few social connections to keep them slightly mentally stable but still hooed on vtubers, they become the perfect customer with a stable income.
Also it's kinda funny to always be able to recognize you based off writing style and topic alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>12565532
>Also it's kinda funny to always be able to recognize you based off writing style and topic alone
NTA but please explain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12565583
Just there's an anon that always goes on about exploitation with similar paragraph spacing and higher standards of writing/vocab than expected on this board

[Anonymous No.]

OP can't post the source because he just grabbed the image from reddit, assuming he didn't make up the whole thing himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559567
the replies to you prove schizos are STILL seething over ina

[Anonymous No.]

>>12559627
insanely based

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>>12562961
I feel the same about Ina honestly. I tolerate her and I don't want her to graduate as it might affect myth negatively. But I can't unhear what's been said. I thought I already forgave her but that's a tough thing to come back from. She seems to be affected by what she said. I hope she can heal from it and grow.

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>>12565176
I don't believe for a second that vtubing causes harm, unless the chuuba is bullying and harassing viewers. People would just find a different outlet for escapism. Vtubers don't enable anything, and they don't contribute to harm.

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>>12559470
I find this funny when you compare it to her roommate.

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All this talk about if Ina was joking, or If Noel is just concerned is pointless semantics and shit flinging.
The fact is, EVERY (female) chuuba has actively thought to herself about how much of a looser her fans need to be to spend their time watching their streams and giving them money. This is not a hobby for well adjusted men and you know it, and they sure as fuck know it.
Women don't even like real life simps who do things like write poems, send flowers, text them good morning, always make themselves available. You think when you send a superchat thanking your "Cute clock wife" for making your day with her presence that she feels fondly about that ?
The type of behavior and personality involved in being a vtuber supporter is inherently repulsive to women. Whether or not a chuuba slips up and says it out loud is just a matter of time and composure

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>>12566284
You can forgive someone and still not enjoy their company. Someone else said it best, vtubers are hostesses. Viewers are gonna pick who makes them feel good. It's Ina's fault if a particular viewer can't shake her low opinion of him. Some people like to get spit on. If I knew Ina in real life I would tolerate far more, but online, as an entertainer, I have higher standards. I wish I didn't because I do enjoy her streams sometimes. But I get annoyed when I'm reminded of this, because I know she doesn't want me to watch her.

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>>12567240
I always cringe when a chuuba reads out a superchat that contains flowery cutesy language that would make a real life girl vomit if a guy really said that to her

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>>12560980
>>12561398
Self-improvement leads to not watching vtubers. Noel undermines her own profession and source of income by encouraging her viewers to better themselves and their lives to the point where they are no longer emotionally dependent on vtubers to get through the day. People watch vtubers for comfort. This guy >>12565176 is on the money.

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>>12561224
Here you go bro
https://streamable.com/wk3ibd

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>>12560517
Damn guess I should watch Noel more if I want motivation for working out and shit, I'm fat as fuck and I need to go to the gym

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>>12567472
Wrong link
https://streamable.com/h2akor

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>>12561348
Does height matter that much for dating? I'm 6 foot but I feel like that isn't worth much at all

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>>12567600
Do women ever turn their heads to glance at you? Short guys are invisible, period.

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>chuubas chatting and having fun
>men: this is a morally corrupt job and they are complicit with exploiting thousands of people
Fucking virgins amiright ladies

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>>12567895
You will never get a taste of pussy, die

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>>12567240
I think this kind of undersells the way people's minds work in layers of denial and categorize different people differently.

Being a company V-tuber means you get a media career and tonnes of attention and money, objectively good things. And more than that, to have even heard of the auditions a lot of them were probably the more functional, "normal" kind of fan of of weeb shit.

The only thing better than having it good is having it good and thinking you're doing a good, cool thing, so there's a psychological incentive for them to view all this weirdness in the most positive terms they can delude themselves into and interpret viewer comments in the most unrealistically sympathetic and "normal" light, at least on the most conscious and foremost level of their minds. They obviously find things cringy, but I'd say its more common for them to think they're cringing in such a way that they want the subject to do better, not cringing away from them in disgust.

Now no doubt they are deeply unnatracted to their audience in so far as they think about them as actual people. But there's a subroutine for that, people have a category in their head for members of the opposite sex that they just consider an absolute nothing in terms of potential attraction. Men who got caught here invented the term friend zone, we've just seen it extended into the audience zone now.

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>>12567895
If you'd said millions you might have had the point but are you really going to pretend there aren't thousands of mentally ill men caught in a much exacerbated dopamine rut of unemployment over this or spending dangerous amounts of money on super-chats.

It's not some crazy accusation saying something's exploitative to at least some of its users. I consider a lot of jobs morally wrong to some degree and I'd still take them if I could.

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Chuuba: *plays minecraft*
Virgin: how dare you, you are no better than a filthy whore, exploiting poor men for a taste of your crab infested poon. HURUMPH.

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>>12567240
I am a misanthrope even though I tell myself I'm not. Women are women, if you have to be seeking marriage or a relationship with a woman to be reconsidered well adjusted, I will never be well adjusted. The only women worth dating are ugly retards who are genuinely grateful for the attention. All women view relationships as transactional, it's a matter of degrees. Every day I wish I was attracted to men so I could stop telling myself I'm wrong for not wanting a relationship with women. If vtubers can't keep kayfabe then fictional characters and AI will be the last chance for hetero men to find real love. Noel isn't wrong to say what she's saying, but personally it just sounds like she wants lonely men to get married, and I don't believe that's a good idea. I'm aware my view is against society and I fully expect to get shit on for it. I don't care.

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>>12564428
just wait for watame's weekly jrpg stream and schizo out in chat, she loves that shit

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>>12561055
Nah, watching people repeatedly seethe over what Ina said is the funniest shit ever. The mental gymnastics people here employ to hate someone never cease to amuse me.

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>>12560517
How much does she know about kendo

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>>12559627
damn

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>>12559470
Yeah, I also watch a fat balding stoner on Twitch

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>>12561751
Depends on the "friend"

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>>12562230
There aren't.

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>>12567240
That's all nonsense. If she likes you, she'll love that stuff.

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>>12563030
If the world ended where is the money coming from?

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>>12563050
It's easy to be normal if you get social validation every day just for existing.

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>>12563134
If you don't like your job you should be striving to improve at something else so you can eventually enjoy your work. Watching vtubers won't push you in that direction.

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>>12569782
She went to a national tournament and won, so a lot.

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the projection ITT.
my fucking sides bros.

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>>12563134
Nah, you're on the right path. In the ideal society you would work far less hours - or none at all.

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>>12562788
yeah this is fake

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>>12571641
>entire thread loses their fucking minds and starts shit flinging over something she didn’t even say
Many such cases!

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>>12567662
No woman glances at me, because I didn't mention that I am a walking meatball

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>>12571796
anon.....

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>>12559627
so based an thruthpilled I actually had to double take if I wasn't spied on for a second

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>>12570369
You have to be 18 to post on this forum

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>>12565217
>wtf why are you guys spending your time with me like im your gf or something fuckin losers
That's not what she said?
Do you think a GF that cares about you wouldn't be concerned if you basically gave up on life?

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>>12571641
>>12571700
Is it actually though?
I went to Noel's channel and I feel like there's streams missing.
That image in particular, with the sankisei concert at the bottom left corner. I remember seeing that, but I can't see it in any vods.

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>>12571936
I've been in adult relationships, I never pretended to be something I wasn't or acted in a way that wasn't me.

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>>12559470
It's weird that holomems think they're anyone's whole existence when they barely stream. Maybe if you watch every stream from ten holomems, you have a problem.

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>>12571796
I'd love to roll you in some panko breadcrumbs and pair you with a good pinot noir

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>>12567662
I just noticed this but even to my own perspective, I do find it harder to notice shorter girls even though I prefer them. World is busy.

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>>12571880
ye
>>12572323
that's the kindest thing someone's ever said to me

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>>12567240
Women do like simps. They want to date the male lead from a romcom. So, first you have to be funny, charismatic, and good-looking, and then you have to simp for the girl as the finale. Skipping straight to simping won't work.

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That's another advantage of following Nijisanji EN; a lot of them love watching Vtubers themselves, so they're less likely to look down on their fans for liking Vtubers.

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>>12573599
Yeah, because Noel never watches vtubers and doesn't have any VTuber that she likes. She never even talks about other vtubers on her stream, or ever asks her chat to go watch other holos MVs or streams. She also doesn't put pics of other holos as her phone wallpaper.
So yeah, she has no interest in any vtubers at all.

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>>12572292
Active holos stream around 100 hours per month.
Even more if you are someone like watame or Coco or pekora.

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bro im drunk in a club right now you bicth3s you all i finally touched grass

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>>12567895
Virgin viewers WANT the female attention. It's just male streamers who fight it tooth-and-nail because they know viewers are going to start migrating to female streamers.

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>>12572196
> I've been in adult relationships
t.catholic

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>>12573592
lmao, she won't see this

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>>12570534
But I like my job, I just said I'm happy.
Work is nice > go home > have money to spend on vtuber concerts merch and cafes >happiness goes up > go to work again

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>>12573592
No. Women THINK they want simps. Even if you're hot and charismatic, a lot of women will still get the "ickys" if you act like a simp.
I'm not saying attractive simps dont get the girl, but just in general, if you had to bet, the low inhibition, low neuroticism, highly extroverted asshole always wins over the high inhib, highly neurotic simp. And low inhib low neurotic guys simply dont simp

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This is fake

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>>12573930
Yeah, more like 50 hours per month for the average holo, but whatever.
Sleep 210 hours, work 160 hours, watch 100 hours of streams. Wow, there's still 250 hours left. Holos just underestimate how much time people have.

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>>12572137
>That image in particular, with the sankisei concert at the bottom left corner. I remember seeing that, but I can't see it in any vods
nah, there is in vods but it's a couple of weeks ago

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>>12559470
but danchou, (we) want you(r tits) to be our while existance
>>12560980
according to the people who think there's moral dissonance in helping the chubby chick in rune factory frontier lose weight (which she explicitly wants to do) even though you can *not*. yes. self-improvement bad. who'da thunk we had those kinds of fags around here.
>>12560919
>only losers watch livestreams on the youtubes
if that was true youtube would have removed the streaming shit and gone back to the YTP era, faggot.

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>>12574820
Commute 30 hours
Clean yourself and bathroom 15 hours
Eat 30 hours
Wow, there's only 175 hours left. If you watch 100 hours of streams your imaginary girlfriend would be very mad at you that she only gets 175 hours maximum.

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>>12574535
Yes, they do want simps, and yes, it will be icky if you do it before she starts liking you.
Being an asshole works if you're a funny asshole. In the beginning, it's just about being entertaining and fun to be around. She won't value any simp stuff like compliments until after she starts liking you.
But it's fine advice to just say avoid simping since some people are never reaching the point where the girl even likes them.

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>>12575757
All that and you can't even figure out a way for the chuuba to take up half of someone's free time, let alone their whole existence.

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im in an u is3x bathroom i wanna fri k the girls pee ne t to me, some girl is peeing next to that shit is so hot this is vraxy

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>>12575843
They mostly don't respect simps. Think about it, how is simp behavior giving the man any power? They put you on a level below the ultimate fuckchads who they fuck on a bed that's typically covered in other womens' underwear. I suppose it's ok if you enjoy taking your girlfriend out to expensive dates and you get home after flirting all night and you wanna stick it in but her tummy hort. Then you get married and have kids and it's sex once a month maximum.

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>>12559470
This is why I only watch 2views and 3views who never get above 500 viewers. They can't afford to turn anyone but the most gregious offenders away and they appreciate every dollar. I would be surprised if someone like that ever tells their viewers to go do something else, unless they're just agreeing with them and wishing them well, like "Oh you're going to bed? Have a nice rest!" or "You gotta go to work? Have a good day at work! You got this!" It's ONLY the rich thots who already made it who say stuff like this, because they now consider themselves to be in a higher class than 99% of their viewers and they feel entitled. And they're right to do it even if they lose 50% of their viewers.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfrTyrkVB-M&t=5047

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lev8ng club, whole is a scam, you wont get any girls, just blue balls, dont go.

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>>12559546
That makes sense, sports festival is the first time I've seen Noel(is that her name?) and a couple others, even though I've been watching Holos(mainly gen5, but I picked up Mel after her 3D stream) for over half a year now.

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>>12576266
wheres any of that coming from? when married people aren't having sex it's usually because the guy is trying to skip the romance because she is wife.

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I'm a Neet, rarely leave the house and watch a fuck ton of vtubers but that's mostly because I have it on in the background while doing other shit, even if you're a NEET you can still have hobbies and other shit outside escaping reality by watching cute anime girls streaming

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>>12559470
Yeah.

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idk I go to uni and lift but that's about it