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>has unhealthy attachment-parasocial relationship with their audience
>stalks fans regularly
>says that their love is real
>fans don't see a problem
Holofags explain

>> No.12134657

>>12134640
Shion doesn't fit in there, but Rushia and Lamy are based for how good they are at GFE

>> No.12134658
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>>12134640
because they're based

>> No.12134663

>>12134640
It's the JP GFE
Now are they just inviting problems for themselves and fans by doing this? Yes

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seems based to me

>> No.12134677

>>12134640
>stalks fans regularly
That's only Watame, Matulri, and Russia

>> No.12134695

>>12134657
probably included because of Shion fanbox schizo rants

>> No.12134699

>>12134640
i hate when vtubers want to date me, it's tiring having to reject each and every one of them

>> No.12134708

>>12134677
Do your Lamy reps

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>>12134677
ogay

>> No.12134752

Look at this armchair psychologist who has learned a new fancy word.

>> No.12134759

>>12134699
kek

>> No.12134778

>>12134752
not much different from regular psychologists

>> No.12134781

I'm so fucking sick of that brat Shion stalking and raping me every night
My cock is sore every morning
Just because i'm fat and an otaku doesn't mean it's some kinda invitation to fuck

>> No.12134832

>>12134640
I always had a feeling to steer clear of these ones. Except for Watame. But she just isn't type to watch.

>> No.12134882

>>12134738
this is just ocd

>> No.12134891

>>12134738
I feel like this is pretty standard behavior for a lot of women who are chronically online

>> No.12134933

>>12134738
she could easily hire someone to do that

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>>12134738

>> No.12134975

>>12134891
And men.

>> No.12134986
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>>12134640
can someone leak Lamy or Rushia member posts? I want to see how unhinged they actually are or people claiming they are GFE Queens are just exaggerating

>> No.12135007

>>12134738
She has some programming certifications right?

>> No.12135895

>>12134986
The last someone post Rushia members only content, some faggot ended up using it as material to bait (you).

>> No.12136163

>>12135895
ah that sucks
I was just actually curious

>> No.12136266

>>12134986
I mean there was the implicit threat of her dying if her fans don't love her (Rushia) but I'm not gonna leak her other member posts
They're all deleted anyway so only autists like me who obsessively save every post know & they're too obsessed to share. The other group of people who actually know both Japanese & where to find deleted content don't seem to frequent the random low quality threads on this board.

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>>12134640
I like Polka but I get to catch her weekly shows and covers. Does she really stalk her fans?
I may have to sign up...

>> No.12136432

>>12136266
>autists like me who obsessively save every post know
based
stalking is expression of genuine and pure love

>> No.12136496

>>12134640
Sometimes I feel like streaming with an avatar is even worse for the streamer's mental health than just regular streaming. What happens behind the scenes? At least with regular streamers people know you exist, with 2d avatars once the stream is turned off you're just one girl in a dark room, nobody knows about you the actual person, they only know the persona you're keeping up...

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>>12136432
Agreed, I do what I can to make sure I never miss her tweets
Luckily YT sends me her membership posts to my e-mail by default...usually....

>> No.12136567

Why is everyone on the internet so mentally ill?

>> No.12136625

>>12136567
Why are you on the internet?

>> No.12136642

>>12134640
No bitch, you explain why you made this thread first.

>> No.12136720

>>12136266
Most membership posts get e-mailed to you though
I think I've only missed that one like 2 months ago when she had a breakdown and posted one and then deleted it pretty much ASAP, although a kind Fandead posted a password protected copy using a code only Rushia members could have
A lot of us tend to save her stuff since we know it could be gone and I think we all know how much it hurts when we miss it so I think a lot of us are sympathetic to sharing with one another as long as we believe the people to be actual other fandead asking in good faith

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>>12136163

>> No.12136765

i love wamy

>> No.12136781

>>12136753
seems like regular chuuba things
at this point this isn't even surprising

>> No.12136812
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>>12136753
time to make my wife russia happy

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>>12136812
based if genuine but remember no friends

>> No.12136920

>>12136720
Well yeah, sharing to other fandeads is different than sharing to randos in threads like this. I was the one that uploaded that tweet for the dude who asked the other day in the Rushia general.
I have not checked my email in months so I actually forgot they got emailed, I always have to stalk the comments section until the post gets deleted anyway in case she replies in a comment to someone else cause that doesn't give any notifications.

>> No.12136959

>>12136920
Oh yeah, this is true. She has posted a few comments underneath.
There was that one night where she ended up posting like 2 or 3 times...that was a really tough night for her. I'm glad she's giggling as we speak.

>> No.12136968

>>12134640
Watame managed to be able to sing very well, release many decent singles in a frenzy, with a good cover or two, and made a very nice sponsored sololive this early in her career. She also made a close circle of friends in the three stooges with friend and hafuelf, and with Kaichou (god bless her soul), and made friends with everyone else in hololive. All while streaming the most out of all her peers.
I would've thought an unhealthy relationship with her audience wouldn't let her manage such a feat, would it?

>> No.12136998

>>12136968
>I would've thought an unhealthy relationship with her audience wouldn't let her manage such a feat, would it?
That would be a dumb implication
If anything art is made better by unconventional passions

>> No.12137039

>>12134891
You sure it's just women anon? I can pick any random threads in /vt/ or /r9k/ and get the same shit or even worse from men.

>> No.12137050
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>>12136846
no familiarity between vievers themselves
all love belongs to Rushia alone
based

>> No.12137079

>>12137039
It's worse for them because there's no reason for a woman to be desperate for male attention

>> No.12137102

>>12134640
Rushia is one of the few JPs that make me want to actually learn Japanese.

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>>12136567
>on the internet
wait till he goes outside

>> No.12137133

>>12137079
>there's no reason for a woman to be desperate
I hope you are joking
despite what incels think women can be lonely and antisocial as hell
not everyone is a stacy

>> No.12137134

>>12134738
imagine wasting this much time on twitter

>> No.12137176

>>12137134
>japanese
>women
>internet job
>menhera personality
seems to make perfect sense

>> No.12137270

>>12136998
>That would be a dumb implication
Correct. I'm just pointing out how my oshi has done quite well within her best capabilities. Thanks for the reply

>> No.12137277

>>12134640
I wish my oshi would stalk me

>> No.12137358

Doesn't Towa also stalk her fan's profiles? I wouldn't mind having an oshi that stalked my profile... Then again there's nothing to see.

>> No.12137427

>>12137133
Some women have unrealistic standards for the guys they're actually able to date
But unironically it's hard for a woman to be completely undesirable to at least a good handful of men

>> No.12137456

>>12137358
Shuba as well

>> No.12137813

>>12137112
The modern world is such that I don't need to go outside

>> No.12137922

>>12134640
money

>> No.12138278
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Lamy...

>> No.12138772

>>12134663
It's only a problem if you don't believe in love. People will try to tell you love only exists when you can meet your oshi in person, but they're wrong. If you let them, they will destroy your belief in pure love. If your love is destroyed then there can be problems. They key is to just keep loving your oshi.

>> No.12138818

>>12134738
If you think of it as making $1 per like, then it's worth it.

>> No.12139313

>>12134986
>I want to see how unhinged they actually are
yukimin here, nothing unhinged on lamy so far, unless I haven't seen the old ones

>> No.12139357

>>12138278
>Lamy doesn't know I'm watching green lamy and the clock instead of her morning streams

>> No.12140025

>>12134738
Check her regular likes. Most of the time her likes are just official shit, announcements, fanart, other Holomems tweets etc. She rarely goes for a like spree like this, there are even tweets in this picture that say something like "oh, I see, Lamy is doing egosearching now".
Lamy is my oshi, she is definitely a bit weird and seems a bit autistic/OCD sometimes, but she's not a menhera by any means. If you don't count her getting needy and half-jokingly saying "tell me that you love me!" which she does only when she's drunk. Yandere shtick is just a meme, she plays into it sometimes because her fanbase wants it. I mean, come on, she's Holo fan, she shills everyone and fangirls on twitter during any special event, even watched most of the Council debuts. Jokes aside, she'd be happy to know that her fans support other Holo girls as well.

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>>12134640
Polka is gay
Polka fanboys over other vtubers and not fans
Polka sees us as one Entity, a whole and not a group of fans
Polka doesn't read superchats or do superchat streams
Polka is self conscious and emotionally mature, also depressed
Do your Polka reps next time
~Zain

>> No.12142535

>>12141822
>Polka sees us as one Entity
that's majority of vtubers
when people say streamer is parasocial with their audience that doesn't mean that streamer literally wants to suck cock of an individual fan specifically

>> No.12142632

>>12142535
we are all Polka

>> No.12142703

>>12134781
Ojinikkis.. how do we get her to stop?

>> No.12142757

That seems normal. Your point?

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>elira admitted to crying when she had technical difficulties because she couldn't spend time with chat

>> No.12142922

>>12134640
>Holofags explain
What's to explain? They're lonely voice actresses working a niche job where thousands of people treat them well and actually care about them. A lot of chuubas are in this industry because they don't mesh well with conventional jobs or social settings, don't have a husband they can rely on, etc.

They're very sweet girls that are in a very precarious place in life. Sure they've got money, but money doesn't make you happy. I know a guy that's a millionaire but still desperate for fulfillment in life he can't seem to acquire.

I hope they find a way to be happy in the ways they want to be happy.

>> No.12142952

>>12142839
cute

>> No.12143013
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>>12142922
>A lot of chuubas are in this industry because they don't mesh well with conventional jobs or social settings, don't have a husband they can rely on

>> No.12143096

>>12143013
Is this the part where you imply to me that all women are whores, or the part where you tell me every single holo is getting fingered by their boyfriend on-stream?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsfQyYkRWs0
>pika gets jealous when her viewers have SOs

>> No.12143204

>>12143096
yes.

>> No.12143292

>>12143204
Yeah well I understand the humor and cynicism, I really do, but for once I want you guys to evaluate this as if the girls are decent people. You've seen enough of their behavior to know they're not conniving whoreish succubi. Some chuubas really are just lonely.

>> No.12143344

>>12134933
This is more schizo then her doing it herself

>> No.12143609

>>12142839

Well that’s a gosling moment.

>> No.12143639

>>12143344
Ma agers may as well earn their living. Right now they seem to do jackshit other than playing with their asshole and reading rules back to the talents.

>> No.12143985

>>12143292
Yeah some for sure are too broken or socially inept to actually stay in a relationship, which is why they go online for attention like this

>> No.12144805

>>12143985
Don't you think you're being a little overly negative about it?

>> No.12145791

>>12134677
Watame stalks fans? How so?

>> No.12145850

i wish my oshi would stalk me...

>> No.12145988

>>12145791
The popular story is watame congratulating a fan for his birthday, however she wasn't following him or anything. Take it as you wish.

>> No.12146151

>>12139357
How do you someone that doesn't stream?

>> No.12146202

>>12145791
Watame once had a fight with a fan in twitter

>> No.12146486

>>12145988
thats it? thats a mental health issue? nigga what is wrong with this rrats nowadays?

>> No.12146855

>>12137133
Anon your average women on any given day could fuck at least 3 different men if she wanted. A guy could fuck 3 women in his life.

>> No.12146894

>>12138278
Goslings are retarded, she will never even hold your hand, she doesn't love you.

>> No.12147218

>>12138278
Every vtuber says this

>> No.12147246

>>12147218
korone just beats this shit out of them and threatens them with violence instead

>> No.12147266

>>12138278
>Lamy loves you, i am in love with you
>can i kiss you? like irl
>ew no
Goslings are the most retarded fuckers around, at least get an escort if you wanna feel fake love

>> No.12150020

>>12137427
>>12146855
Guys what if, open your mind real wide, some women want more than dick?

>> No.12150155

>>12150020
Take a load of this guy, what the fuck are you doing on 4chan huh punk?!

>> No.12150322

>>12134640
GFEfags are just as mentally broken as their Oshis.
So its basically a delusional circlejerk of autists larping at a relationship.

>> No.12150580

>>12150020
We are talking about sex anon. Of course a women can be lonely, vut its very unlikely she is lonely the way a man can be lonely.

>> No.12150810

>>12146894
>>12147266
what's with normalfags trying to appear superior and shit on goslings at every opportunity? let them enjoy their hoby that their oshis enable
no need to get confrontational

>> No.12150939

>>12150580
We're talking about attention, love, and sex. I realize that a lot of people are fine with dating and casual sex, but consider the idea that there are women that don't find that appealing. They're looking for something different, and that something isn't as easy to find as you might think.

>> No.12151326

>>12150810
>what's with normalfags acting like normalfags
Like, that's literally all they do - be "normal", enter hobbies for non-normal individuals, and then scream at everyone else for not being "normal" like them.

>> No.12153434

>>12150939
But they can still have sex anon, which at the very least you have to admit is above male loneliness. In some way a lonely women knows she is wanted, and van feel being wanted, even if not fully honest on the part of the man. A lonely man has none of that, at all

>> No.12153549

>>12145791
>>12146202
https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1425617060978061312

>> No.12153628

>>12142703
i don't know dude, i feel drained every day because of her, and i'm sure there are many more victims. someone please help, she is insatiable.

>> No.12153748

>>12151326
Get dunked on, faggot.

>> No.12153787

>>12137133
>women can be lonely
Lol. Lmao

>> No.12153872

>>12153787
Women can be lonely, not in the 3ay men can be lonely, but women can certainly be lonely.

>> No.12153895

>>12142922
> I know a guy that's a millionaire but still desperate for fulfillment in life he can't seem to acquire.

Yea, I'm one of them.

>> No.12153911

>>12134640
They get stalked so they stalk us back it's only fair.

>> No.12153957

>>12134640
You see it's very simple anon.
I want to stick my dick in crazy.

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>>12151326
basically

>> No.12154167

>>12153549
this is completely normal behavior, it's probably the most well-adjusted post i've ever seen from anyone related to hololive jp, fan or otherwise

>> No.12154263

>Shion
>Caring about her fans
Topkek

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>>12153957
Ah, a man of culture.

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>Watame takes a 3 day vacation
>still releases short videos every day telling her fans there's only a bit more time before she'll stream again and not to be upset

Watame cute.

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>>12153549
>gets smacked by watame
>loses the will to live

Based.

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>>12136297
>Polka will never stalk you
Why even live?

>> No.12154619

>>12137427
>>12150020
>>12153872
Women are most susceptible to the siren call of "yeah you can totally get a 10 figure 8 pack 12 inch dick chad" and end up wasting their time. Men have a harder time, but men mostly just need sex. Men are biologically programmed to even find chubby (not american chubby, normal chubby) women attractive due to pregnancy, so the standards for sex will always be lower.

Most of all, the reasons for seeking sex are different and women will fuck in hopes of keeping someone they want around, while men are fine with escaping blue balls and then leaving. Women can certainly get male attention, but can they keep it? And can they get it from the men they really want to get it from, or is it just the kinds of losers who will fuck anything? The woman isn't in a materially worse position, but by nature is psychologically more likely to fall to pieces while a man has to get really beaten down to fall into despair. We're just built tougher.

>inb4 inundation by anons insisting they only want to be loved

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>>12143639
>got hired as a district submanager for a political campaign
>but it wasn't long before the election and I was somehow supposed to recruit volunteers by going calling people and asking supporters to volunteer to knock doors
>ended up being more efficient to knock the doors myself

Imagine being a manager but you have no one to manage. Lel.

>> No.12155649

>>12154619
>anons insisting they only want to be loved
I've been on this site long enough to know that the average anon doesn't really know what love is. I don't either, to be fair, but I don't go around clinging to the notion, either.

>> No.12155811

>>12134640
>works extra hours to earn their keep
>this is apparently an outrage
It's a whole-of-life approach and part of the experience.

>> No.12155901

>>12154461
Damn. Well in all fairness if I were to be reprimanded by Watame and come off as a disappointment to her of all people I'd probably want to step in front of a bus too.

>> No.12155940

>>12153549
That's an interesting thing to tweet. So she's basically saying "I tried really hard, and I'm happy with what I'm doing"?

>> No.12156294

>>12155940
Reading the tweets they're replying to it's some argument over whether her stuff is becoming too derivative and similar to other stuff compared to her old stuff which they think is more unique or something.

>> No.12156564

>>12155649
>I've been on this site long enough to know that the average anon doesn't really know what love is.
Most people don't. Why do you think people treat their sex partners as disposable toys?

>> No.12156636

>>12156564
I imagine, or at least remain hopeful, that those kinds of people don't cling to the notion either. It is hot, though.

>> No.12156730

>>12134640
>has a job that fulfills their emotional and financial needs
>unhealthy
They have a good life.

>> No.12157313

>>12156564
I never had a gf, but if i did i wouldn't treat her with disrespect.

>> No.12157368

>>12134738
What’s going on here that’s so crazy? I don’t use Twitter so I don’t understand why it would take so long to like everything. I’ve seen quite a few chuubas heart nearly every comment on YT on some of their streams when they are in the hundreds but that doesn’t seem like it would really take that long to do unless.

>> No.12157540

>>12157368
It takes like 30 mins if you're really slow at reading & check the profiles as we. She searched ラミィ by new and liked and read each one. It only takes like 30 extra seconds per to check the profile and read a few tweets from every profile as well. Completely reasonable to do if your bored to be honest, I mean I've stalked Rushia's fans and I'm not even Rushia.

>> No.12158956

>>12157540
Ah that really doesn’t seem that bad. I would likely do the same if I was vtuber of her status.

>> No.12163768

>>12157540
>Completely reasonable to do if your bored to be honest, I mean I've stalked Rushia's fans and I'm not even Rushia.
You did fucking what?
You only stalked the Japanese users, right nipanon? H-haha...
there were 7 people who viewed my 12 part tweet before I deleted it, and if you're one of those people, you have to die

>> No.12163992

>>12163768
I stalk only people who regularly tweet in Japanese. Your secret is safe.

>> No.12164449

>>12163992
>I stalk only people who regularly tweet in Japanese
どのくらいの頻度は"regularly" nigga
I think I'm safe tho because at least a quarter of mine are still in English

>> No.12164896

>>12140025
makes sense, her oshi is marine. this is very marine-like behavior.

>> No.12165060

>>12141822
>Polka fanboys over other vtubers and not fans
unfortunately true, to a degree that it's hurting her relationships with other holomems.
both flare and lamy have said she feels weird to be around, act more like their fanbase than their friend.

>> No.12165147

>>12164449
A fourth in English? I think I know who you are, but no, I didn't see your rant and I don't stalk you. あのツイート見てないから安心しろよ

>> No.12165381

>>12142839
sauce

>> No.12167110

>>12157313
Wait until you get a menhera girlfriend where you have no idea what she's thinking most of the time and gets mad at you for every little thing and will cut you off only to beg you to return to her after every little fight(that she caused herself). This is what happens when you stick your dick in crazy.

>> No.12170661

I'm curious, all you faggots go on about how these girls are whores that get dicked ten times a day but have any of you seen/heard about recent statistics for how often people, especially younger generations, are fucking in Japan? It sounds like one of, if not the most sexless places on the planet these days

>> No.12172725

>>12154355
Purest idol

>> No.12173042

>>12134695
Please let nobody fall for the fanbox narrative, I paid for the fucking 10k tier retard I am to see, and it was literal shitposting. As in the word kusa and nothing else, literal fucking shitposting and no rant in sight.

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>>12134986
Most of Lamy's posts are normal enough, she does commission art for us each month and shows pictures of stuff like her plants, recently she's added an english translation to her posts.

A better example of what you're looking may be the surprise of having underage viewers since in her mind everyone has always been getting drunk with her and exchanging embarrassing comments as they go.
More specifically her old idea for the ring she released. Originally she wanted it to be a wedding ring and come with a proper certificate, then deciding she'd create a Yukihana namestamp so it'd look legit. Chat had to talk her out of it since it could cause issues, she has still encouraged people to get actual rings and engrave both their names on it and show her pictures.
Mind you this contradicts her usual narrative of girlfriend until you can then propose after 2 years, so it's not wholly concrete.

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>>12141822
Agreed. It's not usually apparent to casual watchers or EOPs who believe the co-dependency jokes or watch clips of her brief venting sessions. Polka is also a highly thoughtful and introspective person who is comfortable with occasionally sharing her stream of consciousness with her core audience. But mostly, she is just an excitable dork who loves what she does, loves seeing people entertained by her work, and loves other vtubers. Also suffers from a hopeless gambling problem. She's the prodigal sunk cost fallacy fennec.

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>>12134738
>"What is she planning???!!!"
No plans, head empty.

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>>12174293
I wish my jap was good enough to understand her properly, I feel like I'm missing out on probably the only hololive girl I could like for more than just entertainment value while I slowly cram enough of the language into my head for more than simple shit to make sense

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>>12173042
she deleted it retard
get dunked on

>> No.12178830

>>12134738
Oh no, lamy wanna get stabbed...

>> No.12178845

>>12173635
what is wrong with ring and certificate exactly? seems cute. also not that unusual I think there are already chuuba who release something similar

>> No.12179117

>>12173635
>it’s time for me to step up as the new Lamy
So, which Yukimin became the current Lamy recently? When will it be your turn anon?

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