/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Is YAGOO really good for Cover and Hololive? The vtubers all seem to love him and he's meme'd in good faith but isn't that just YAGOO running a slick PR campaign and vtubers pressured into giving YAGOO good press? What has YAGOO actually done to help his stable of vtubers? I feel like he could've stepped in with Pekora and Haachama's situation (maybe Kiara's too but even he might've not been able to do anything about Japan's legal work visa situation) and smoothed things over with everyone and not upsetting the audience. Vtubers should be his number 1 priority, without vtubers there is no Cover, there is no Hololive, there is no comfy CEO lifestyle for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196757
As the ceo, he probably can't micromanage all the talents. That's what middle management is for. Cover is a big operation and he needs to steer all of it, not just the highly visible stuff.

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>>1196813
Exactly what he said. Yagoo is a ceo. He doesnt have time to micromanage idols, he's trying to keep his company afloat and making a healthy profit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196757
>I feel

'Cause I feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel
I can always show
my everything to youuuuuuuuuu

>gb2twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196757
>>1196813
>>1196869
He help making Marine that one video with meme. That make him based in my book.
But is he good CEO? I mean He does something good if the company keep growing

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196757
Anyone who pulls out of China is good in my book.
As long Coco stays in Hololive I won't fall for your rrats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196757
You have to remember Cover originally is a tech startup. It's not an idol company. The idol stuff was a very small sideproject Yagoo dreamt up to showcase the technology they were trying to improve on and sell such as motion tracking. It's just by chance that the small idol part of the business that was meant to showcase their tech became substantially larger, more profitable and vastly better than the technology part of the company.
This makes the statement from Yagoo that they are transitioning to a primarily entertainment company first quite a big thing since it was the point when they realized that the most profitable part of the business is hololive itself.

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>>1196757
His job isn't to watch over the girls, it's to make Cover thrive. This may come through partnerships and innovation, expanding their business to more countries and holding more events or whatever.

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>>1196757
>vtubers pressured into giving YAGOO good press
2 or 3 probably legit like him
rest have gone on record saying he's "old man" and "creepy"

He is fuck and far beyond thinking about just cashing in superchats
>HoloALT

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>>1196757
It's pretty big now with 50+ talents. If the CEO is personally fraternizing or interfering with them it can create complications for the company and get in the way of the managers' work. It's just unprofessional. Whether Yagoo is good or not is really irrelevant here, for those who want him to do everything personally.

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>>1196930
Coco's still getting fucked by cover, even though she's still a member.

[Anonymous No.]

i dont give a shit about him but definitely hes fucking good at selecting talents. otherwise he coundnt have picked subaru out. she isnt a nerd and was with no background/experience of streaming.

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>>1197021
>good at picking talents
I doubt he has anything to do with that.

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>>1197035
he was one of her interviewers. subaru talked the details about it and asked him what the holo jp audition is like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7oQ9z2z1lU&ab_channel=V%E3%81%99%E3%81%93%E3%81%99%E3%81%93%E4%B8%B8%2FVtuber%E5%88%87%E3%82%8A%E6%8A%9C%E3%81%8D%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%8D%E3%83%AB

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>>1197035
Subaru had her last stage interview with Yagoo, if I remember correctly what she said on a stream. I'd assume he still does it, if he just comes in for the final talk.

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>>1197035
he interviewed the talents, okayu just talked about it

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>>1196757
As long as friend is happy with Hololive and Yagoo I'll continue to believe in the company

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>>1196757
>vtubers pressured into giving YAGOO good press?
If anything I've seen the opposite, have you seen most girls reactions whenever he is mentioned? Yeah it's just bantz, but I don't see them very interested in keeping up a good image of him, some even go yuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197433
Hasn't said a word about Haachana. Burger is all talk. Judge by actions not words.

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>>1196955
>rest have gone on record saying he's "old man" and "creepy"
You are fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197539
fuck off bootlicker

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>>1196942
This really puts into perspective what Subaru said in her recent stream abou tthe interview process
>"We liked the way she talked about the potential of growing technological advancements in our company"
>Subaru doesn't even remember saying this
I'm guessing it was just some throwaway comment she made in the interview, but we know Yagoo still smiled upon Subaru in that interview

Also gotta keep in mind stuff like Hololive Alternative are Yagoo's idea; doesn't seem to be much insider info among the talents at least, it's probably a project coming from his own vision that he's working on with the tech staff behind the scenes
Even just the way Yagoo talks about Hololive Alternative is really ambitious and passionate, he really wants to innovate in the vtuber tech space
Hololive as an idol entertainment company seems just like a happy accident for him, like how Nintendo used to be a card/toy producer until video games turned out to be the happy accident for them

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>>1197021
>Subaru with no background/experience of streaming.
Anon...

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a lazy coomer with low aspirations in life. What would it be like to be Yagoo and ceo of Hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197736
>Hololive as an idol entertainment company seems just like a happy accident for him, like how Nintendo used to be a card/toy producer until video games turned out to be the happy accident for them
This is a very good way to view it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197763
You get to call up any girl on a whim and rawdog them until they pass out.

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>>1197676
not him but you are fucking dumb and have no friends. they can banter bout him like that because they already trust him regardless of his ceo position. go outside and try hard to have social experiences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197475
I would call that good press

Yknow, most people when their CEOs walk into the office, they're intimidated/scared about making a good impression and sometimes outright hate the CEO for making bad decisions affecting their work/pay? I've worked in a bunch of places where people are just there to make money and live their lives, and dont have too many good words to say about the CEO

The fact that the holos are so comfortable doing bantz with him and including him in all their jokes, like how Botan was comfortable having a rainbow 3D cutout of Yagoo with a bullet in his head for her 3D debut, or how everyone uses the golden yagoo statue thing and makes him the butt of the joke in Coco's meme streams, that's probably all a good sign
"Yagoo" itself is a pet name which Yagoo himself embraced; if this were an alternate timeline they'd all be referring to him as "Tanigo-san" and be awkward about him instead, so yeah it's good press for him

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197763
Not a lazy coomer with low aspirations in life that's for sure
You don't get to be a Yagoo or a ceo without having years of reps put in

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197736
Yagoo worked in tech companies his entire working life, like 20+ years of it, and HoloAlt seems to be his pet project so I'm eager to see what he can come up with.

[Anonymous No.]

>sees all his supposed idols breaking out of their shell and their shitty designated seiso idol roles, become more real and more unique, more creative and original
>response is "noooo this is getting out of hand we need to be more generic, just like #idolshit franchise 23487932, BAN HAACHAMA"
Fuck this nigger

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>>1198004

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>>1197842
Also, forgot to mention to have lots of money from a rich family to make the company**

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197804
bro, get a job

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>>1198127
Anon let's be real, if you had lots of money from a rich family you wouldn't even have any interest in starting a company
Get off your ass and do some hard work

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>>1197511
Haato drama was literally yesterday anonchama. Also, people don't think and ask Fubuki when x talent goes on hiatus, she comes out by herself which is what makes her good.

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>>1198004
I agree they shouldn't have privated the videos and should've let her post the ending but Haachama's schizo arc really wasn't that great.

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>>1198187
no argument. you just have no friends and dont have any real social experience. your original post is that of pure shut in autist who cant even tell jokes/bantz and criticisms apart

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>>1196757
Have you heard how some of them talk about him? They freely joke because they like him. aome a lot more than others. 100% he's slept with some of them already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196942
which is ridiculous because to this day they still dont use motion tracking suits and are using shitty VR trackers. the tech is arguably the weakest part of hololive. look at snuffy and codemiko, the tech isnt even comparable. the only thing hololive has is expensive artists to do character designs

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>>1199520
This, it confuses me a lot too. They also are powered by HTC, but I still don't see tracking near as good as, say Kizuna's.
Meanwhile nijiniggers are working on full-suits and realistic clothing physics. Just what is Cover doing?

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>>1199613
Feels like they stopped developing their tracking and started working on other projects. The only thing that has decent tracking are their concert set ups.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1199520
Yagoo is a VRfag, considering his Note post from January and related tweets that's not going to change anytime soon.
>>1199613
Ichkara has the benefit of having Sony money and patronage from in advancing their technology, you can't really compare the two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1199520
Codemiko gives me bad uncanny valley vibes but fuck Hololive + Snuffy's rig makes me feel things

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196757
People really think that YAGOO is some alpha and omega in Cover corp. While yes, general strategy and direction of Cover is in his hands, most of the work is done by his three Directors and people working under them.
For what is worth, he's pretty good CEO - Good spoke person and face of corporation. Nothing more is really expected from him.
Also, mostly important - he' not a businessman and he's for sure not a manager of idol company. He was schooled as tech specialist specializing in multimedia stuff. The best ha can do directly for girls is probably troubleshooting their tech.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1198127
>implying
Yagoo is a nobody, dude. He got the money to start cover from selling a decent startup he previously made. You know who is what you described? Riku, the Niji CEO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1200014
I'm all about Hololive, but I'll readily admit that Snuffy has a pretty fantastic model and rigging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196813
>>1196869
No, it would be too much to expect him to receive daily or weekly reports on how the hololivers are doing but stuff that should be red flagged, like Kiara moving out and Pekora's special project not being feasible especially, should be brought to his attention at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1199053
we'll never truly know man

[Anonymous No.]

>+100 to all Talent Acquisition skillchecks [passive, permanent]
>-100 to all Talent Management skillchecks [passive, permanent]

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>>1197511
Fuck off. I don't care if people shit on Cover or Hololive as a whole, but Fubuki doesn't deserve that.

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>>1196813
Yeah, but it's his job to hire good middle management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1197511

Kill yourself

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>>1199053
>100% he's slept with some of them already
Yup. Remember he personally picked up Miko, she was definitely an easy target for him.

[Anonymous No.]

the lesbian Miko

[Anonymous No.]

>Roommate is super cute and small
>Still young
>Scouted
>The most favored by the management.

I'm pretty sure she's dating a YAGOO.
I'm afraid that Miko is going to suddenly report her marriage and quit.

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>>1202995
>>1199053

>Roommate is super cute and small
>Still young
>Scouted
>The most favored by the management.

I'm pretty sure she's dating a YAGOO.
I'm afraid that Miko is going to suddenly report her marriage and quit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1200012
What Sony money? Sony Music is the one that made investment in them. How do you even believe on this narrative? Even more when Hololive has Gree, OLM and Mizuho Bank as investors???

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>>1196757
Dunno. I think he's incompetent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1196955
Yellow hands typed this.

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>>1204004
Because people don't know that Sony is broken up into different divisions. So they think all of Sony is backing them.

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>>1204004
>Sony
>Sony Music
...

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>>1205758
Sony and Sony Music aretwo different things. You could mean anything with just Sony.

The thing is, the argument is based on SMEJ is investing on them for technology when they mainly focus on music and anime production.

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>>1205758
You see anon, Sony Music is owned by nintendo

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>>1204004
Like Sony music is any better, with their track record I don’t have high hopes for Mito’s album.

It’s funny how everyone focuses on Sony investment but not Legends Capital (Chinese investor) , when Nijisanji is going hard after the Chinese market.

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>>1204004
look at the sponsorships or Nijifes or who produces their goods: Sony Music is the particular division of Sony that is invested in Ichikara

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>>1208466
It literally states who sponsored Nijifes, outside of their own money, on the bottom of the page. It was Takara Tomy's Wixoss division, Konami's PowerPro division, Adobe Japan, and eStream. Sony Music also has no hand in producing a majority of their goods. Investing in a series B round literally means just that, they invested once. Other than the investment, the only connection they consistently have with Ichikara is signing label deals with a few members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1208799
For reference

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>>1201575
>like Kiara moving out
She had a Holiday Work Visa, an one time only VISA that last 12 months max. She literally can't change the VISA, it's actually one of the requisites for that VISA. On the website it says that once your VISA is over, you're obligated to leave the country.
She could have extended the VISA for another year if she wanted but Kiara didn't want to stay in Japan anymore

>Pekora's special project
A few weeks before this, some Holos had an "meeting fan" event. Pekora was probably planning to do something similar but bigger, at least for what it sounds. Unfortunately for Pekora, Japan had big issues with COVID around that date and announced a bigger quarantine. Japan took massive preventions too, like cancelling all travels or closing Japan Post for pretty much every country in the world

[Anonymous No.]

>>1202870
Actually, even that isn't even the job a CEO since that could be subject for abuse. HR departments are a thing for s reason. The most that he could do is recommend to HR to look into hiring a potential candidate or approve/veto a hire if he is part of the hiring process.

The CEO's job is simply to innovate and expand the company's reach without losing money... and answer to the board of directors whenever they demand account.

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>>1199053
Isn't YAGOO married?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1210809
Married and has children.

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>>1210383
i thought the holiday work visa pretty much exists so that you can spend 1 year and try your damndest getting a job so you can stay with a real work visa, which she did by joining hololive

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>>1196757
He is the best and the only one that could have formed Hololive
Remember Niji is corporate, every other one is corporate, and corporate's response to idol entertainment is to spray as much talent at the wall to see what sticks in a battle-royale-but-in-RL kind of manner.
Him being alien to the idol industry resulted in him sparing his talent a lot of the harsh trials and tribulations that the idol industry usually subjects its talent to to find diamonds.

I can't picture that many of the people we like would have stayed if they actually had to act like idol talent.

I know someone will reply with "But what about Aloe?" and people forget that Aloe was in Hololive because of the ringer she was put through in Niji, but that's just a rrat.

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>>1196757
He managed to create Hololive as it currently exists, so yes he's obviously good for it. Is there someone somewhere on the planet that could do a better job? Probably. But he has done a good job so far.

>>1199520
Codemiko spent $30,000 on her mocap suit, and that's just for one person and not the 50 in Hololive. That's likely why Hololive seems to wait until their vtubers have been around long enough to give them a "3D debut". And even then most of them don't seem to use the suit very often and prefer the Live2D setup.

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>>1210904
She didn't want to stay in Japan.
She literally lived in a dilapidated, rat infested house. Also she missed her cats.

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>>1211030
The "leaders" of Hololive (Sora/Fubuki) also played a huge part in dictating the culture among the talents themselves.
Japan being as hierarchical as it is, he lucked out having those two at the top.

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>>1211030
Also, Aloe wasn't fired, she quit. Cover wanted to keep her.

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>>1211045
>Codemiko spent $30,000 on her mocap suit, and that's just for one person and not the 50 in Hololive

They could just order a few at a time like they do for 3D models. Make the suits for Gen 0 first, then Gen 1 next, etc.

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>>1211435
Anon, that's what they already do. Have you never watched any of the 3D debut videos? And Sora just used hers to go on a really cute 3D date.

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>>1211045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nARBc054hjQ&ab_channel=KirinukiChannel

might be outdated but they dont use suits at all. they have a face tracker and some basic VR trackers on limbs. and its not like they distribute that shit to all their talents, they have to come into the office to do their 3D stream with the equipment. the milestone was for them to get a 3D model made, not for them to get the whole 3D set up. thats why 3D streams are rare and they are often collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>1198004
Apparently they weren't as popular in Japan as they were in the west

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>>1196757
oogay

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>>1210904
no anon, it's meant for take a long vacation with the possibility of working to supply your stay (something you can't do with the regular VISA) and only for young people (18-35)

You can get experience and maaaybe find a job later but it's def not for staying in Japan. In fact, getting a Work VISA is hard af, even for people who has formed a family there. Just see how many people have to renew their VISA each year, some even have lived for more than 10 years and Japan still give them a short time VISA.

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>>1211030
With the way cover is growing, it's just a matter of time until they collect more and more staff members with a traditional idol company mindset.

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>>1213094
Yeah, I know someone like this, he has to get his visa renewed literally every year.

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>>1196757
>seem to love him
They barely interact with him nor do they have an opinion about him. That's why they're all so surprised the west memes him to death, which is a sign of affection in Eastern cultures

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>>1212707
They might be reaching a point where the 3D models are working with regular VR setups, it looks like holohouse has been testing it the past few months

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>>1213094
There's an option that a lot of companies (esp. idolshit and pro sports) exploit, which is that the companies can push a work visa through with their own sponsorship behind it.

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>>1196757
Yes he is. Under his leadership Hololive evolve from a sidejob to sell tech into THE vtuber company. Now, if Subaru is right there are 1200 people in the word trying to take at last one spot in his company and Hololive is gaining the fame no other company of vtubers has before

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>>1216020
To add to this in an Ollie stream she voiced her frustration at Yagoo not sending her a congratulation tweet for, IIRC, her milestiones.

Ironically, in that same stream she had some tech issues and Astel, who she was playing with, send a joke tweet to Yagoo telling him to buy a new PC (to send it to Ollie, though her didn't mention that part) and he actually answered, wondering if Astel was going to teach him Apex, funnily enough, Ollie replied to that tweet asking Yagoo to but her a rtx3090 and he still hasn't replied to her (at least that I have seen).

Funnily enough, Yagoo seems to be closer to the boys of Holostars than the girls of Hololive, he has even collabed with them on a few ocassions (like for a Mario Kart stream some months ago).

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>>1199053
>>1203902
meds

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>>1216196
>There's an option that a lot of companies (esp. idolshit and pro sports) exploit, which is that the companies can push a work visa through with their own sponsorship behind it.
Apparently Hololive as a company is't old enough to do this yet. Something like "three years working with foreigners"?
I can't find the exact law. Basically this is an option, but not right now. Kusatori is better off being the Sempai of the future EU division, rather than really moving to Japan. She has her cats to take care of.

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>>1213456
>With the way cover is growing, it's just a matter of time until they collect more and more staff members with a traditional idol company mindset.
The traditional idol company is about micromanaging everything. That is much harder when it comes to long hours of livestreaming. In fact, what stops actual "proper" Japanese idols doing livestreaming? Probably because they can't keep their persona up this long.

You end up being who you really are after 4 hours streaming and two beers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1219438
In Lamy's case, after an entire bottle of sake.

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>>1219500
>In Lamy's case, after an entire bottle of sake.
There was an old shonen manga about a protagonist who is permanently drunk. Who's home planet has alcohol in the air so you couldn't be sober even if you wanted to. I was amazed at the number of people who made references to that manga when it comes to describing Lamy.

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>>1216020
>west memes him to death
-Hoshikawa mentioned him on Twitter when Matsuri spams red SC on her 3D debut pre chat
-Keirin who is a shitposter 'vtuber' used his face in one of his Hololive shitpost
-Poruka wished him Happy Birthday on Twitter
While oversea are fans are indeed annoying with driving the memes to death, most of the memes are originated by JP fans or tubers and some came from CN fans.

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>>1219398
>future EU division
>more catering to foreigners
They relented and made the EN section since the number of foreign fans was increasing and it was a good business investment, but making another separate division just for EU, which has no unified language and still uses English anyway, is extremely unlikely, ie it's never gonna happen. The only other division we *might* get is RU, but it'd be an ID-sized gen and I haven't seen enough Russians to make them appear as an attractive enough market.

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>>1219321
Yagoo can't be close with the girls on stream due to how the whole idol thing works

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>>1196757
Not bending over for the chinks will always make him very based in my book, considering how very few companies would stand up for their own workers over chink money. Even if Cover can be incompetent at times, I will always respect him for that decision.

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>>1221838
Indonesians dont care though, they in fact ship celebrities of diffrent genders